outlaw

[indigo token]

you dont

[torpid heath]

Where is our buff?

[fathom whale]

that’s it. Shut this place down

[indigo token]

i mean

they spell it out right there

[civic zephyr]

I do stay alive, so i think chat gpt trippin

[random geyser]

I love people arguing rogues don't get buffs cause sub is good but don't mention bm got a buff and mm is top tier lol xD

[civic zephyr]

And idk if a pre pot is going to make the difference

I feel like the uptime portion is skewed because of the 35 wipes and we only killed collectors twice out of the 35 times

[fathom whale]

I got told to play sub instead and I was like nah because I don’t enjoy it aye

[random geyser]

Outlaw is fine until Salad bar imo

But its wild we get destealthed going into dim lol cause of course the subtrefuge talent for more stealth breaks stealth

[fathom whale]

What’s the raid discussion bot?

[civic zephyr]

Nah it was the 35 overall pulls in the screenshot that was submitted into chat gpt

[fathom whale]

Oh my bad lmao

[random geyser]

@fathom whale what's with the monocle

[frank bane]

Yo same

[mossy shell]

How do you guys open on Dim

should we roll before going across for the extra global even though that loses supercharger

[tight kernel]

I play sub

on Dimmy

🙂

[gaunt phoenix]

do nothing, but /cancelaura stealth right before portal, then open with macro at boss

then you still get lucky coin immediately

[random stirrup]

are people actually lusting and potting collectors

that cant be real

[pastel sierra]

99 notifications brother who's pinging you

[keen belfry]

got u bruh

[civic zephyr]

Im in 100 channels and really only open 4 of them

[pastel sierra]

[pearl topaz]

It's funny because if this discord closed the outlaw numbers would get even worse from not having the latest bugs to exploit to keep up

I doubt it affects ret or boomkin nearly as badly

[analog fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277438328018440255/1413704228366712932/image.png?ex=68bce629&is=68bb94a9&hm=af63235de617fb601ed7f92ddccd00a6e68262ca154f75e9baefaf3b6773d23b& outlaw st is insane

[vapid blaze]

when are we striking?

[torpid fiber]

as a builder

[wintry solar]

Who up striking sinisterly??

[cinder relic]

https://x.com/lofibanshee/status/1964094442610012236?t=Uq3YS-7WNCpkMsqQpLQC9Q&s=19

jordan 🧡 (@lofibanshee)

Alright team I think using the closing discord channels bit has ran its course, find new material.

X · Sep 5, 2025, 10:33 PM

[vapid blaze]

is that the ret that did it or what

[wintry solar]

I think I'm gonna run it again

[strong halo]

I think it’s fair to clown ret pallies rest of season

[vapid blaze]

can clown em for abit more than that

[grim spear]

LMAO why is this channel still not closed?

[wintry solar]

As if clowning ret has business hours

[strong halo]

I wonder if they made their discord harder to access

To avoid getting trolled

[strong halo]

What boss is this?

[analog fog]

last boss dawnbreaker

[vapid blaze]

maybe u just get muted/banned or smth

wasnt it like this last tier too?

rogue wasnt that good
and everything else got buffed

[grim spear]

[dapper fjord]

!prekey

[grim spear]

8 targets, no prio, no st, unusable in raid.
no even changes,, no players
So why hasn’t this channel been shut down yet?

[frank bane]

You guys ever see the thumbnails from the Kitchen Nightmares YT channel. Shit is absolute cinema and unhinged AF

[fathom bramble]

if all the regulars just go play elite dangerous instead of typign here it'll be functionally shut down

[spring harbor]

I need guidance on Roll the Bones

[gaunt phoenix]

!rtb

[grim spear]

Maybe Blizzard just wants nobody to play this spec, so they can completely rework it into something unrecognizable

[gaunt phoenix]

How to use RTB
(Assuming season 3 tier and Supercharger)

• Roll if you have 0 or 1 buffs.
• Roll if you have 2 buffs and Loaded Dice is active.
• Roll once asap after pressing KIR, as your buffs don't get rolled away. Use this weakaura to see when your buffs don't get rolled away (yellow border).
• After the KIR roll, continue to watch the weakaura as buffs tick down. As your buffs expire you may hit a point where your remaining buffs are yellow and you can roll again.

[grim spear]

aka deleting it

[spring harbor]

Oh, dope

[grim spear]

So why don’t we just go ahead and delete this channel ourselves?

[cinder relic]

Can you shut up already

Uve been at it all day

[grim spear]

no

[gaunt phoenix]

[cinder relic]

Literally your entire chat history today has been this

Go pick up a book or something productive

[grim spear]

💯

[warm fractal]

maybe step away instead of reading every message?

[cinder relic]

?

[warm fractal]

just jump to present

[cinder relic]

What

[warm fractal]

idk been drinking and some lines got crossed consider it a mistype

[cinder relic]

Bet

[grim spear]

Maybe you should go read a book instead of trying to stop people who are being mistreated from complaining here.

After all, you don’t even play.

[cinder relic]

"mistreated"

[inland cairn]

bro i looked at this chat like 5 hours ago and you were complaining then

[cinder relic]

Brother it's a fucking tuning pass in a video game

[inland cairn]

lmao

[cinder relic]

You need to get a grip

[spice gull]

https://tenor.com/view/gadoosh-gadooshed-gif-552996007817045351

[cinder relic]

Literally though

[grim spear]

this fucking video game means something to me

[wintry solar]

using my raid buff!

[grim spear]

is that wrong?

[spice gull]

just sad

[inland cairn]

nah thats fine

but this still aint a big deal

[warm fractal]

i've been playing since 08 and it means something to me, i think it's fair to care

[grim spear]

you don’t even play.

man

[cinder relic]

It's a bit pathetic to be this dramatic about a balance patch I would say if you want my honest opinion

[grim spear]

come on

[inland cairn]

who doesnt play?

[cinder relic]

Outlaw should have gotten buffed. Outlaw is in a shit state. Spending the entire afternoon and evening asking us to shut down the discord is too much.

[grim spear]

So what does my complaining have to do with you?

this is just a fucking channel of the fucking video game

[cinder relic]

I am very active in this discord what's yes

[warm fractal]

is that not also arugably pathetic

leaving the drunken typo

for posterity

[cinder relic]

Depends how you define it! You could say it is

I enjoy chatting with people and talking about the game

So I hang around here

[grim spear]

So complaining is also part of chatting.

try accept it man

[cinder relic]

Lol

[grim spear]

lol

[warm fractal]

oh i will

[restive obsidian]

I miss the days of just huffing copium for buffs

[cinder relic]

I'd say there's a large difference between chatting and whining asking us to close the discord for the past 6 hours

[wintry solar]

I'm pretty sure the channel closure didn't actually do anything

[cinder relic]

It didn't

[inland cairn]

obviously not

[grim spear]

it's fun

[frank bane]

nah it made a really funny Wowhead article name

[wintry solar]

Troo

[torpid fiber]

Consider that if we close the channel people won't be able to complain

[wintry solar]

They'll never live this down and I'm all for it

[warm fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/shouting-development-dozens-of-us-bald-speaking-gif-16881775

[wintry solar]

They'll go to a different channel

I know because I already do that

[warm fractal]

if our forest is cut down no one will hear a noise

[grim spear]

We don’t really have much of a way to "feed back" to certain designers who are in the habit of shitting on us.

[warm fractal]

and guy over here wants to double silence that

[grim spear]

why not just make some meme

or just make some meme about making meme

[warm fractal]

o

i

am memeing hard

didn't mean to type that in three sorry

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-good-life-huh-eric-cartman-south-park-fatbeard-s13e7-gif-22897472

[grim spear]

[wintry solar]

[safe pasture]

bro gota love missing 2 keys for 13 resil and having 1 14 and not being invited to any groups still kekw

just let me get my damn resil jesus

[frank bane]

Resil hell is real

[safe pasture]

its like if you not sin you not getting ainv

bout to just que sin and swap before they throw key in

[warm fractal]

a buddy of mine told me to just play sin for kyveza

like i'm not 33% vers geared

i'm the worst sin geared rogue of all time if i swap

[frank bane]

Yo same

[warm fractal]

i aint swapping at this point

[frank bane]

When the world eats me up and shits me out, I just remember that I am from Ohio and I am made out of corn.

[brisk lotus]

riddle me this batman, if outlaw does shit ST then how come its also very mediocre at aoe

[mellow mica]

what is other outlaw guild?

build*&

any can show me?

[frank bane]

What do you mean other build? Are you talking about M+ or raid?

[mellow mica]

m+

its a ambush build i think

[mellow mica]

I don't know if this one will work out very well for me, so I want to test this one to see

thanks

[frank bane]

CQQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeAAM2mZgZmBzMDzwMmZMzMmZmWmxsMDAAAAAAz22MzgZmxCsMbDAAAAzMDYwsNbmZmRzMLMLssNtwmB

[frank bane]

👍🏻

[frank bane]

Just remember with the Ambush build, you want lower haste than you do with Keep it rolling becuse of take em by suprise

[frail veldt]

youre gona make a lot of enemies saying chatting here is pathetic

lolol

we got some mad chatters

also

anyone who thinks ret closing their discord was the reason they got a buff probably needs to do some soul searching

the only people dumber than the rets who closed the discord are the people who think it actually helped

[indigo token]

guys

im so pissed rn

im benched for the whole weekend

the other outlaw rogue is getting in

[river escarp]

A lotta people are just trolls and it doesn't help when you have articles cashing in on the meme too

[cinder relic]

It's a funny meme lol

[river escarp]

I mean define funny?

[indigo token]

its funny

[grim spear]

ye, it dosent help ik

but nothing helps

[indigo token]

that ret pally's threw a tantrum

[hoary wave]

i laughed hard at the balance thing on the ret discord

[grim spear]

so why not trolling?

when you feel pissed

[river escarp]

Nah, I don’t think it is.

But to each their own I guess

[grim spear]

why so serious?

[river escarp]

I’m not? Lol

[grim spear]

when you are actually being a clown

[frail veldt]

convince them to bench both

[indigo token]

like

it hurts because he signed up as sub

but it shows outlaw on the roster

so like

[craggy barn]

guy do u have the gif of antenna orbs

or a picture of it

[grim spear]

[pearl topaz]

!prekey

[craggy barn]

i need a gif

i wanna see them move

[safe pasture]

for ho do we just send stealths when we dont have audacity or pistol shot procs ?

[bright crane]

do u guys go trickster for soul hunters

[tight kernel]

yes

[ember goblet]

What is typical range for outlaw dps on a pure single target fight I feel like I’m failing on it miserably in M+

[woven marsh]

more than the tank and less than the other two dps

[worn ether]

^this

[tight kernel]

Triple rogue is new tech

js

[random geyser]

jw what is your avg rtb buff uptime on fights seeing a lot of top parses like 80-95% are those just god pulls?

[frail veldt]

sim yourself its pretty accurate

[grim spear]

better than assa ngl

[cinder haven]

I assume this tuning means outlaw are intended to have the worst st

I honestly have no idea what their goals are with tuning after this

[cinder relic]

Probably the same as sub last season when it was ignored for buffs

Where it was like, bottom 3 and then bottom 10 got buffed except sub

[cinder haven]

With the goal of?

[random geyser]

fuck u rogues quit so no one bitches about reworks

[cinder relic]

No goal really, just forgot

[random geyser]

right thats the logic like when they made demo dog so no one played it and they could add DH

[wintry solar]

Bitching is half the reason I exist

[cinder relic]

Cuz the next balance pass, sub got buffed, and ended up being better than sin afterwards

[cinder haven]

Right, Hanlon's razor, I forgot

[frail veldt]

usually one or the other

[cinder haven]

If they only looked at overall damage, not damage to bosses and didn't look at individual fights at all the tuning can be explained maybe

[lofty pike]

Sometimes i assume they Look at nothing, Flip a coin and buff classes

[frail veldt]

eh it still requires stupidity to explain it

no way around it

[fallow sonnet]

are fatebound coins something that i should bother tracking with WA? like.. the way they roll for me shouldnt change my decisionmaking in the way i perform my rotation right?

[cinder haven]

Or " you are good on soul hunters"

[frail veldt]

even if they wanted to not increase outlaws performance on soulhunters by tuning it they could very easily nerf PC

so again

still requires stupidity

lol

im like mad we have PC at this point

cuz it just makes us get nerfed when we shouldnt

[cinder haven]

I tried many times to invent rules where we care about current coin rolls but found nothing useful

[fallow sonnet]

oke i figured

[fallow sonnet]

so its not just me that our st feels kinda bad? or at least hard to compete

[random geyser]

we are worst st in game almost i think if not the worst

[cinder haven]

Pretty much bottom on pure st

[stuck sparrow]

I highly doubt they look at individual specs of a class

unless you’re a mage

[random geyser]

they buffed BM hunter

xiani

[stuck sparrow]

Yeah everyone and their dog plays bm

[random geyser]

then they are looking at specs

[stuck sparrow]

Yeah they cant fix like 20 rogue bugs

so not optimistic

sin and sub are kind of fine numerically just annoying bugs

[random geyser]

they arent bothering cause we dont have enough value for blizz if ur still playing rogue u aint quitting

[stuck sparrow]

Well you mean outlaw

since sin and sub still perform

[random geyser]

rogue is like least played class in general next o evo

[stuck sparrow]

Yeah but i mean perception is

not good

in general playerbase

[craggy barn]

theyre gonna do a giga rogue rework and make it super ez

[random geyser]

sin sub an d outlaw are similar til dmg amp bosses at the end

[stuck sparrow]

The number of players I’ve seen

that view outlaw as a meme spec

[random geyser]

for sure

[stuck sparrow]

its kind of funny since sin already is

[random geyser]

sin is so boring though

[craggy barn]

until u get to m+ and then start crying about restealths

[random geyser]

i just never cared about pushing keys lol

[solemn vessel]

i play sub and can conform when i tried OL my damage was no where near subs but it could be a comfortably thing aswell but OL is mad fun

[random geyser]

could be gear too

but unless outlaw has a very high variance st 90% ish we are all pretty close

[stuck sparrow]

because most players cant play sin realistically

[solemn vessel]

this aswell

[stuck sparrow]

without the training wheels that IC provides

[fallow sonnet]

i find the thing where sin rogues "auto execute" mobs that have enough dots built up to kill them cool but thats about it

[solemn vessel]

sin is giga bugged no?

[fallow sonnet]

reminds me of playing risk of rain or other roguelites where u get items that kill enemies when they drop below a certain %

[stuck sparrow]

like 3-4%

[fallow sonnet]

but I love being a pirate more than anything

[craggy barn]

sin is good, but its hampered by the bugs rn

[random geyser]

xiana 3-4% what?

[fallow sonnet]

I didn't play OL until recently but apparently we had cannonballs?

[stuck sparrow]

damage on sin

in aoe

[craggy barn]

we had canon balls back in legion

i think into bfa?

we never took it

[solemn vessel]

seen a sub do 9mil dps on a boss and knew i wanted it lol

[slate forge]

The incompetence has reached new heights no point in giving feedback just look at killing spree they will ask for it then ignore it all without putting in 2 seconds of effort to fix the fking spell

[random geyser]

yeah legion artifact i still hadnt got over combat so i missed that

[fallow sonnet]

I do find the fact we revolve around high vanish uptime hilarious and weird considering we should thematically be the least stealthy rogues but i gotta admit aside from sometimes resetting bosses in delves i like the playstyle and i worry theyll make OL more boring and easier when they eventually mess with it

[stuck sparrow]

thats the nature of a spec that full commits to bursting

[random geyser]

we will inevitably be simpler if we get burst which we need it has been proven over and over

[solemn vessel]

and having mythic prisim

[stuck sparrow]

Doing 25m dps to the dawnbreaker mini boss

is peak comedy

[solemn vessel]

does outlaw use prsim aswell?

[safe pasture]

i mean really if you just extended ars duration by a even a little bit I think it woudl do wonders for playablity over all and make us less punished by down time

[random geyser]

what is the variance on a good roll pull vs bad roll pull on OL rogue?

[stuck sparrow]

No outlaw is green text enjoyer

since forever

technically havoc also abuses green text really well

since their talent is basically vers to trinkets in a way

[fallow sonnet]

kinda intrigued in sub but swords are cooler than daggers

wym by green text?

[slate forge]

Not that much on single target fb in raid but m+ single target can vary by 40%

[random geyser]

@fallow sonnet sign my petition to bring back hemo

[fallow sonnet]

hemo?

[solemn vessel]

sub is meta in MOP and they got yo hemo

[random geyser]

@slate forge it really does feel like its pretty high at times

[fallow sonnet]

i seen some m+ builds lately not running ghostly strike, isnt this kinda weird since our st is already bad? feel like youd want it for the bosses

[stuck sparrow]

Yeah if you enjoy being a one minute wonder

[random geyser]

@fallow sonnet Sword builder for Sub

[fallow sonnet]

oh yeahhh

[stuck sparrow]

i’ll play ww on classic if anything

peak of that spec

before blizz ruined it with legion

[random geyser]

I mainly want hemo back so i don't need 2 weapons sets

[slate forge]

Or just don’t support blizzard fk em

[cinder haven]

That would tank our already god awful prio damage then more yeah

[stuck sparrow]

I want df prepatch dust build

[cinder haven]

But you get to play 2fth

[stuck sparrow]

That was probably the most fun i had on this spec

[solemn vessel]

i will be playing OL in midnight tho

[stuck sparrow]

in years

[cinder haven]

2fth is good vibes

[stuck sparrow]

df prepatch outlaw was fr

like 110apm

[random geyser]

@solemn vessel quitting raiding for midnight?

lol

[solemn vessel]

wym

ill still be raiding lol

[cinder haven]

With dust and ER iirc

[random geyser]

unless there are major changes we are generally worse for raiding by a lot

[stuck sparrow]

You had flag and ER

since ER was a talent

in the class tree

[solemn vessel]

i have faith

[cinder haven]

Yeh but we had legendaries as well

So you could dust

[stuck sparrow]

Ye you played cov lego+dust

[random geyser]

@solemn vessel think we have been saying that since SL lol

[cinder haven]

It was crazy

[stuck sparrow]

and you had fth which acted like blunderbuss

[slate forge]

Playing outlaw in raid is unquestionably selfish ruining 19 other people’s raid

[stuck sparrow]

basically infinity gauntlet

[solemn vessel]

i just wanna be good with all 3 specs is all

[stuck sparrow]

sent flag with dreadblades

and just massive opener

[random geyser]

can we combine sub and outlaaw and get a third spec?

[stuck sparrow]

Also hot take

i hate bfa outlaw

[cinder haven]

Now we do less on opener than rest of the fight/key almost

[stuck sparrow]

too boring

[cinder haven]

Trickster especially

[random geyser]

i just wanna be wanted lol

[cinder haven]

Gameplay is still fun

[solemn vessel]

do yall play trick or coin in M+

[random geyser]

my favorite part is hours queing in dorn

@cinder haven

trick for any and all cleave

[solemn vessel]

ok bc i seen shin on coin

when he was playing it

[random geyser]

trick has built in like 20% BF doesnt it

[cinder haven]

You can try FB in streets/dawn

It's alright

[stuck sparrow]

has shin even upkept

his alt rogue playing outlaw

[solemn vessel]

we only play trick on sub

[stuck sparrow]

because ds sub is a buggy underperforming mess

[solemn vessel]

lol

[cinder haven]

FB m+ build has more prio and st

But it's like 8% behind on aoe

But maybe 15% ahead on ST

It actually sims higher than trickster in dslice

It's not clear that trickster will make key go faster than FB

You will probably have higher overall with trickster on most keys though

[wintry solar]

Tob I'm gonna play stealthless HO since playing outlaw is already throwing

[cinder haven]

That's awesome

[wintry solar]

Might as well do weird stuff

[cinder haven]

Have fun

[slate forge]

Just sandbag play HO and have fun be worthless like blizzard intends

[cinder haven]

You'll get kicked from your groups ofc

[wintry solar]

Yeah ofc

[cinder haven]

But still

[wintry solar]

[cinder haven]

Has zac seen the tuning yet?

[frail veldt]

what tuning

lol

[slate forge]

Don’t like 1 fth kir don’t like PC ??? Play 0 fth KIR HO no PC until they buff

[cinder haven]

If not I have something to look forward to today at least

[random geyser]

Rogue changes just stealthed as usual right

[cinder haven]

Ah stealth buff

so the others don't get jelly

[random geyser]

Yeah they gonna fix grapple bug and say they did stuff

[slate forge]

Dude clocks in for 15 minute of work max probably forgot to push them to the post

[cedar kernel]

uh uh

bad cringe sad sad

we got no buff

[safe pasture]

where yall seein patch notes?

[cedar kernel]

forum

[sudden fulcrum]

wowhead.com

[cedar kernel]

but we have a website like bluetracker or something could show its change

💀 idk if this tuning for hunter will make it replace us

[cinder haven]

Can't be replaced if you already don't have a spot!

[safe pasture]

jesus bm buff tho

[cedar kernel]

[stuck sparrow]

i feel fury's hotfix

already did

in non pwar comps

[plucky sonnet]

no rogue mention in patch notes gg

I think outlaw is really fun in keys right now though

raid and FB are both just miserable but that's why I'm gearing and learning sub rogue

[cinder haven]

Gameplay loop of trickster is fun

[plucky sonnet]

my only complaints about outlaw in keys are about how bad our single target damage is and also how KS just has an awful damage profile

but I think a lot of people hold those same complaints

[cinder haven]

Our damage profile in general yeah

Anti-funnel and no burst and bad ST

We used to be one of the specs that lost the least st in aoe

Then they started added funnel tech left and right

[neat echo]

Do we close the discord guys?

( )

[cinder haven]

Shutdown in 15:00

I guess the only thing we have going for us now that is unique is PC

[plucky sonnet]

PC is pretty nice on some fights

[neat echo]

Seeing as Rogue has gotten so little attention compared to the other classes, blizzard will probably remove rogue as a class as a whole as their solution

[cinder haven]

It's the duct tape holding us somewhat afloat I think

[plucky sonnet]

yeah I think without it outlaw would be so much worse especially on like the 3-4 raid fights where outlaw is comparatively good compared to the other rogue specs

[crimson thicket]

sorry boys i just did almost 10 mil in a key, im keeping us from getting buffed

[plucky sonnet]

gg

[cinder haven]

All pad damage surely

[crimson thicket]

indeed with phys comp

[plucky sonnet]

all my damage in keys is ethical and I am surely not griefing my havoc DH because I want to press the 0-full combo point button

[crimson thicket]

dont think i've ever hit 96% uptime in AR before though, that was kinda nutty

[daring yoke]

fuck that pin hurts 😭

[cinder haven]

But then you cancelaura bf of course

[plucky sonnet]

man there goes my excuse wtf I didn't know I could do that

[cinder haven]

Sry

Forget I said anything

[plucky sonnet]

that actually is super helpful though I will keep that in mind

[cinder haven]

Can also try to reposition

For less damage

[plucky sonnet]

I actually have been doing that when possible

[cinder haven]

That's very ethical of you

[dawn talon]

you're capped at 8 and their funnel scales really hard with target count you're barely making a dent

[cinder haven]

I feel so useless on for example the hulks in arakara

[cedar kernel]

do we need to do something like ret channel

[still matrix]

Where the hell

Those class changes are a disgrace!

What the helly

[cinder haven]

Open a ret channel and then lock it?

[cedar kernel]

i am slow pushing rn

cant even time a 15+

doing top1 dmg in group made me feel like this key is cringe already

[dawn talon]

dude i didn't time a key for like

4 hours today

[cedar kernel]

for me its been 30 hrs

or more

[dawn talon]

through a series of increasingly ridiculous circumstances

i bricked a key bc my warrior's shield broke

in the middle of a pull

like what

[cedar kernel]

i mean when i doing top 1 dps, the game will be rly tough

bc it shouldnt happen

should be the fury

or feral to do the top 1

then i will be top 2 and the last dps should be close to my dmg then its an ideal circumstances to time a key cleanly

[cinder haven]

Maybe time to prep my brm

[safe pasture]

how in the helly am i supposed to kill ppl in arena

feel like i just get perma ccd

[wintry solar]

You dont

You gotta play to the strength of your teammate

[safe pasture]

aw

[rapid ore]

gm friends its so over

[mossy shell]

@vivid vessel I have discovered

a BAD bug

Killing Spree cannot hit Invigorating Fish Sticks 🙁

I realized because I was positioning to hit only the fish sticks and it did 0 damage so I tested it more

idk if people already knew that

[wintry solar]

I thought it was flagged to not hit totems

[muted crest]

Two other spec is meta... No way they make outlaw good sadge 🙁

[lime lake]

fish sticks arent totems anymore

[wintry solar]

Then that's no good

[livid pewter]

well tbf only sub is strong rn - assa fell behind kinda

[mossy shell]

It hits other "totems" in the season

but ya people should help let Blizz know to fix it

[safe pasture]

does subterfuge allow dagger in the dark or does it have to be like stealth stealth

[wintry solar]

Real stealth

[safe pasture]

aw

all my dreams diein in real time

[quaint mauve]

im

at

400 declines

rn

what happened

[wintry solar]

Season 3 happened

[terse sierra]

[cedar kernel]

outlaw!!!!!!!

You have been removed from the group

[daring yoke]

when are we closing our discord? 😭

[wintry solar]

Midnight

When they load vanish even more

[cedar kernel]

Outlaw buff soon

[jolly geyser]

4 vanish charges and blind and feint required for dps

[safe pasture]

im just sayin if we all play mastery main gouche builds we will get a buiff

[jolly geyser]

[cedar kernel]

Ur pic is fake we are top 1

[jolly geyser]

Real

[fresh obsidian]

Is there really an outlaw rework or is it just speculation?

[wintry solar]

Rework probably not, I'd wager more a talent revamp akin to what he had in DF

[frigid python]

dunno what your talking about @daring yoke xD

[daring yoke]

the bad one was just for ST 😭

[cinder haven]

Can also look at the pure st fights

[frigid python]

yeah St is not that great true

[quaint mauve]

but 400 is a new record for me

[willow portal]

dont really have to filter for 95% for outlaw on mythic

not like there are more than 30 anyway

this early in the season mythic table shouldnt be used for comparison i think, better to look at heroic

[worldly shale]

channel not deleted yet

amazing

[unkempt dew]

Are we meta yet?

[torpid fiber]

Every time someone complains about outlaw dps blizzard introduces another fatebound bug for us to find

[willow portal]

i should have just rolled feral again this season

[jolly geyser]

[timid idol]

is survival all bomb damage? don't they have pet passives or sumthin

in outlaw's case its fake damage anyway since it's not bf doing the damage in reality

[worldly shale]

furry

[willow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/furry-furries-fursuit-furry-hugs-hug-gif-24086340

[lucid sandal]

I'm gonna buy it guys ngl

[worldly shale]

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-text-cant-see-kenjeong-gif-2342040886398399978

[willow portal]

basically ready for mythic raid

[worldly shale]

NOOOO

BAD FURRY

RETURN TO FLURRY

[jolly geyser]

3mill?

[worldly shale]

3 mill for a waist

bruv

[lucid sandal]

Way less

[willow portal]

i dropped cloth boots 714 and they went for 700k only

:(

[quaint mauve]

ww?

[worldly shale]

i sold a heroic plate helm for 250 XD

[worldly shale]

wym way less XD

[willow portal]

its a druid, that is just the color i chose for ilvl display

[lucid sandal]

dw ab it

[jolly geyser]

oh that price dropped quick

[timid portal]

depends on realm

[lucid sandal]

Yeah

[worldly shale]

yeh

probably diff realm

[lucid sandal]

I checked on wow pay 2 win

https://www.wowpay2win.com/?tier=t43&region=eu&boes=238027&ilvlRange=710,723&mustHaveSocket=1&secondaries=0,3

There was only 2

Other one was 3m

[plucky sonnet]

man

[jolly geyser]

[cinder haven]

Now that's pay2win

[wintry solar]

Dot com

[cinder haven]

Is that like 30 tokens?

520€ or so

[molten oasis]

Is it worth it 🤷😂

[cinder haven]

Ah no, that was with wrong token price

[crude flower]

Sentinel is mostly bomb damage yes

Because most of your abilities aid in either making bombs do more or refreshing their CD

And multiple nodes in the tree increase bomb damage, alongside the tierset giving them a 150% initial damage bonus during lunar storm

[fallen mural]

i love how balance got buffed, right beside outlaw lol

[tawdry linden]

It's the best, I feel really valued as a Outlaw player

[inland acorn]

Look at the bright side, they could've nerfed blade flurry

[agile orchid]

so what are you guys rerolling to

I'm starting to level a warrior

[worldly shale]

DH

SOON!

going to make tea

watch the queue for me guys

[jolly geyser]

[inland acorn]

DH is the answer

To reroll for new spec in midnight, which will be OP for +3 seasons

[worldly shale]

What ilvl u guys think we will get on remix characters

Is it even wurf to gear this dh im wondering

[cobalt sail]

!WA

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[willow portal]

how do you mean that

the remix only get merged after remix right

so if you want to play a char semi soon, i think waiting for after remix isnt the play

[worldly shale]

didnt they say

there will be an option

to get the character out of remix

as soon as u want

[fallow fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[inland acorn]

[inland acorn]

That is correct, they said you won't need to wait till the end

[stuck patrol]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[willow portal]

ah cool, didnt know that

[vivid vessel]

Ye I know

Trash ability all around

[red zinc]

ye but the gear will most likely be ass if you export

its not gonna be higher than the enhanced level boost which has 645

[leaden folio]

fish sticks is like explosive orb from legion affix

same shitty hitbox

[daring oxide]

Guys did you see how hard they sandbagged BM hunter dark ranger sims:

i think we need to start crippling our APL, undersim and get buffs

[copper radish]

Fire

[stiff vector]

Wow that’s crazy…again hunters caught sandbagging? Btw these are the same sims Azer once tried paywalling

[proper veldt]

wait what

someone tried to paywall sims?

LMFAO

[worldly shale]

what does this mean

[formal knot]

warr tank if dont wayt i kik u i dont fak chare u itl or if u do all in the fa k mitik

[worldly shale]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-mocking-gif-15817237996465785395

[somber saddle]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
• Just before key placement use AR into KS to get Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
• KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
• During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open onto the pack with AR into BtE.

[stiff vector]

outraw rouge if dont wayt i kik u i dont fak chare u itl or if u do all in the fa k mitik

[jolly geyser]

faking roks

[daring oxide]

this is after they fixed the sandbagged sims

bros

ret paladins

and now bm hunters

we need to learn from these examples on how to achieve buffs for outlaw!"

@vivid vessel you seen this shit?!

[vivid vessel]

ye idk

we dont complain enough

[daring oxide]

its time

[quiet root]

there's not enough of us

game is full of bm hunters

[shell fossil]

i got a 691 dagger from the weekly

[desert tendon]

Hunters

Have cheating sims

Since at least sl

[shell fossil]

but also i got the raid boots for my dev evoker

[desert tendon]

I remember a season where they had a pi every minute in sims

[stiff vector]

ROFL that is hilarious. Gonna start considering Hunter disc in the same vein as boomkin disc at this point.

So much for blizzard not paying attention to WCL or class discords for tuning…sure seems like that is exactly what they do.

[desert tendon]

They Just not enough i guess

[shell fossil]

they're busy with legal action rn, if you look around you'll find it

[desert tendon]

Game is split

Vanilla classic hc retail sod

[shell fossil]

yeye

[jolly geyser]

outlaw on suicide watch

[desert tendon]

And they had laid off so many devs

I d be surprise if more than 4 People + chatgpt was on retail rn

[stiff vector]

Devs are just completely incompetent and/or just don’t give a shit when it comes to rogue. Mountains of evidence to support that at this point.

[desert tendon]

No cap

[shell fossil]

8 dungeons for an end of expansion season is pretty grim

[desert tendon]

That s one reason i quitted

Lack of content i enjoy

[jolly geyser]

I kinda wanted all TWW

[desert tendon]

Went from 14 dungeons an expac to 8

[shell fossil]

could have awakened the whole roster with weekly cycles

[jolly geyser]

then like 4 older

[shell fossil]

yeah feels dumpy

[desert tendon]

Now probabaly gonna be 6

[shell fossil]

sub on rookery 1st is kinda spooky tho cause you can just blink into the middle ?_?

[jolly geyser]

ks did that to some

never had that

[shell fossil]

oh true

[jolly geyser]

I remember shadowstepping to avatar of sargeras feet

KS always had that shit,like Kologarn in ulduar

[copper radish]

That some shady hunter shit right there smh

[hasty warren]

Am I wasting too many dispaches ?

[dense badger]

Hi, new here. Am I stupid for wanting to create an outlaw rogue in its current state? I wanted to at the end of last season but the rotation puts me off. I guess a tldr: do I or not? (The idea sounds fun but the button bloat puts me off compared to other melee specs)

[jolly fox]

Entre les deux yeux why not entre les yeux

[daring oxide]

Could just be a low roll, and low ace procs

[cinder haven]

Outlaw is fun, but damage profile sucks and tuning is low on st

[worldly shale]

yes

[hasty warren]

I'm trying to only use dispatch outside crackshot windows

[cinder haven]

Don't drop bte buff

[hasty warren]

yep

[cinder haven]

Also good to use bte if you have RP up

[hasty warren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hcsAyur4DDKA7hpKzXPCzA
but my sim seems to wast way less dispatches

[cinder haven]

Otherwise dispatch is slightly better

For FB only tho

[hasty warren]

oh ths rule is still good ?

[cinder haven]

Yaya

[hasty warren]

man I hate fb

hope they buff tricks in st

[cinder haven]

But trickster can just bte on cd

FB likes dispatch a little due to mean streak

[hasty warren]

I migh missunderstood prio list maybe

do we vanish + macro if KS up ?

[cinder haven]

Yes

If on low cp

[hasty warren]

and what means GS on cd ? is it when the spell is available or the buff is going down ?

[cinder haven]

Spell on cd

[hasty warren]

so full cp = ks in this case ?

[cinder haven]

If you have adrenaline rush available also yeah

But tbh I think it was also ok to send at full cp

[hasty warren]

man I'm this low compared to my sim and I can't see what's wrong lol

[cinder haven]

You can lose a lot of cdr on adr gs if you ks

You'll ks into other finisher maybe even ace proc

[hasty warren]

I feel like my crackshot windows are worst than when I play tricks

[cinder haven]

Wdym?

[hasty warren]

like it'z half the time

and bad ace proc too

idk

low energy too

idk what i'm doing wrong lol

[cinder haven]

Ah crackshot windows makes more sense

You are not wrong

Since you start window with gs + bte

[hasty warren]

u lose a gcd

[cinder haven]

You can get really bad energy

[hasty warren]

I may be trolling vanishing at low cp for macro into gs too

maybe it's a big mistake

[pliant ibex]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[cinder haven]

4cp is kinda ok with bs up

[uncut stratus]

which poisons? instant and mind numbing?

[hasty warren]

I think I was using vanish at 1/2 realy often

so waste 2/3 gcd for cp building

ans energy

SS is so ass to cast when no proc lol

[cinder haven]

That's only ok if you are gonna vanish+adr+gs

[hasty warren]

yep

[cinder haven]

But it's good for that

[hasty warren]

also is it ok to vanish+adr+gs is full cp ?

or delaying a gcd is good ?

[cinder haven]

Not fully explored

[uncut stratus]

guys

[cinder haven]

Probably neutral

Mind numbing or atrophic

Usually atrophic

Instant always except hoa mini boss where you can go wound

Crippling is good start of gambit and hoa

It's util? Use what you think is most beneficial and if you don't know then instant + atrophic

[hasty warren]

btw tobfon for ur help 🙂

[cinder haven]

[wintry solar]

Yeah Tob is my favorite

The goat

[mighty pivot]

popo go sleep

[wintry solar]

Can't, shopping.

And then eat and then shower and then sleep

[mighty pivot]

how much candy are you getting

[wintry solar]

I had a skittle last night from the emt girl so I'm good for another week or so

[mighty pivot]

a skittle?

one?

[wintry solar]

Yeah

Grape

[mighty pivot]

you don't sound very... grapeful

[wintry solar]

This dude

ACTUALLY

It was the best skittle I've ever had

[mighty pivot]

I like berry skittles but skittles got banned here so

[wintry solar]

Meh

They're good teah

Yeah

[cinder haven]

Googles skittles

[mighty pivot]

actually not countrywide banned, but many places stopped selling them

[torpid fiber]

why did they ban skittles

[cinder haven]

Looks like very artificial colors

[wintry solar]

I'm getting dried mango slices

[cinder haven]

Probably that

[torpid fiber]

I haven't had skittles in ages, I should get them sometime

[cinder haven]

Sweden has the best candy

[wintry solar]

True

[cinder haven]

Think it's being exported these days

Bubs for example

[mighty pivot]

titanium dioxide it seems

[torpid fiber]

Australia has some decent stuff
Cherry Ripes go crazy but that's a chocolate bar

[mighty pivot]

cherry is best in anything

S+ tier fruit

[torpid fiber]

Oh fuck how could I forget Musk Sticks when thinking of Aussie lollies

[cinder haven]

Salty liquorice and sour candy isn't super common outside Sweden i think?

The dutch have salty liquorice tho

[mighty pivot]

yes it exists in netherlands, and finland too

[wintry solar]

That biker licorice I love

[torpid fiber]

We also have these which they're going to have to change the name of after the robot uprising

[wintry solar]

In sweden

[torpid fiber]

I've always wanted to try salty liquorice

I love liquorice

[wintry solar]

It put hair on my chest

[mighty pivot]

I hate liquorice

[wintry solar]

You hate everything

[mighty pivot]

no I love cats

[wintry solar]

You drink clam juice as a beverage

[mighty pivot]

and cherries

[mighty pivot]

I guess those have different flavour per colour?

[torpid fiber]

Probably, I don't think anyone actually buys them

[mighty pivot]

they wouldn't be selling them if they didn't

[torpid fiber]

Idk maybe it's because they hate robots

[mighty pivot]

as long as they don't hate ninjarobots...

[cinder haven]

How can we get more prio as trickster without getting a buff? Gimme some ideas to sim

[mighty pivot]

GSW

[cinder haven]

Instead of?

[kind otter]

is 93% adr uptime in floodgate ok?

[torpid fiber]

Stand far enough away KS can only hit the prio target

[kind otter]

i thought this season our adr uptime is higher?

like 95%+?

[torpid fiber]

Also maybe an angle where we press BF less in order to get more prio damage at the cost of aoe

[cinder haven]

On FB it should be

Trickster I don't really see why

[kind otter]

oh ok i see

[copper radish]

ran my first DH key... idt im going back all season lol

[torpid fiber]

The worry here would be losing out on the cdr at high target counts, maybe not using blade flurry while BS is up is an angle for prio damage

[arctic hollow]

Weird overspecified sentence, very common in French, this one in particular has been written like that for a very long time. I think it stuck because it rolls of the tongue well

[cedar kernel]

oh shit

i meet "outlaw!!!!!" problem

but he said that in Chinese

[worldly shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413245732118593606/image.gif

[vivid vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif

[molten nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413245732118593606/image.gif?ex=68bd3567&is=68bbe3e7&hm=db605207b74b0298dc432a7aef3ec639c9d2f219a7523c007c37853efb8c0be7&

[worldly shale]

screenshot

chinese copypasta

goated

[cedar kernel]

i /rl ed

one sec let me check i could get it

[hasty warren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif

[olive parcel]

shouldn't heavy hitter increase killing spree dmg?

[cinder haven]

Should, but doesn't

[wintry solar]

Forgot to get dried mango slices

Idk if it's ever been more over tbh

[sudden fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-over-it's-genuinely-over-trout-trout-dying-trout-it's-over-gif-4267717049801794134

[cinder haven]

Are we dead?

[long barn]

Guess it’s over

See you next year

[hasty warren]

maybe it's time to close the channel ?

[jolly geyser]

make wowhead post,worked fine last time

[hasty warren]

real

[old gull]

I got into a phys comp, I actually
Did some damage

[hasty warren]

but tbh last time was way more important than now

[old gull]

That +12 stood no chance

[stiff vector]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-goodbye-its-been-a-pleasure-were-done-its-done-gif-16910949845345308969

[cinder haven]

Last time we were gigabugged ye

[hasty warren]

bf and deft bug was so ass

gm too

[cedar kernel]

i tried my best in 15 BLOOD

the DK ask me why my dmg looks so poor, i said i am a 8 target capped

what do u want me to do

[hasty warren]

why bm is above u lol

[cedar kernel]

i am not dying

[stiff vector]

good thing BM hunter is the one getting aura buffed and not us

[cedar kernel]

they died plenty of times

[vivid vessel]

bm is litteraly the most broken spec in the game rn

[cedar kernel]

idk why my dmg looks such weird

[vivid vessel]

maybe you are unaware

[hasty warren]

with last buff ?

[vivid vessel]

np

[stiff vector]

BM is gonna be insane in keys with this buff

[vivid vessel]

no

before last buff

[hasty warren]

was Z tier befor

[cedar kernel]

88% adr uptime

[vivid vessel]

azor put it z tier

certainly wasnt z tier i can tell you that

weird z tier spec

[stiff vector]

ye azor needs to just fuck off at this point with his sandbagging, gaslighting ass

[vivid vessel]

i wish outlaw was z tier like bm is z tier

[stiff vector]

I think I dislike azor more than boomkins at this point

[vivid vessel]

like idk what kind of z tier this shit is

[indigo token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413245732118593606/image.gif

[cedar kernel]

it must not Z tier

at least they are not target capped

we are

[vivid vessel]

z tier

[cedar kernel]

no ST, no aoe, only survival

[stiff vector]

and BM also can do pretty giga boss dmg in keys too

on top of giga AoE

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZztTN2a1VcDAKbX4?fight=7&type=damage-done ye this spec definitely deserved an aura buff far more than outlaw

12m overall whilst also being top boss dmg basically every boss

devs are completely clueless

[cedar kernel]

i cant tell like if we dont have all physical buff, out dmg will be like very weird or bad

[stiff vector]

without raid buffs outlaw is kind of unplayable in high keys

[vivid vessel]

with raid buffs its unplayable

[cedar kernel]

i am very sure that we need a buff or just uncapped

[stiff vector]

well I mean you can at least still time keys with full phys comp even tho we need full raid buffs just to not be completely useless, but im pretty sure you will just not time any 16+ key with outlaw in the group if youre playing 0 raid buff comp

like youd have a better chance at timing the key by inviting literally any other spec in the game instead of outlaw at that ppoint

[cedar kernel]

bc i havent seen such dmg in my life, having good rotations but the dmg just cant rise

[vivid vessel]

I take my group right

and i replace outlaw

with like any spec in the game

and its prolly better

so ye

[stiff vector]

I mean Ill have 6 buff for basically 2 min straight and feel like im blasting on a boss, then I look at the dmg meter at the end of the boss...and im literally doing piss dmg, getting gapped by the other 2 DPS.

its just depressing

or look down and see my cloak is the 3rd dmg on the boss because literally nothing on this spec does any fucking damage

[vivid vessel]

idk the thing that depress me the most

is just

looking at prio damage

[cedar kernel]

idk it seems like i become a burden or something in group

[vivid vessel]

on pulls in arakara

you are litteraly under tank

on every pack

[cedar kernel]

[vivid vessel]

while doing tank aoe

[stiff vector]

ye the prio dmg and boss dmg is what pisses me off the most, because I know its actually a huge problem for the timer

[vivid vessel]

in arakara im actually convinced any spec in the game is better than outlaw

[cedar kernel]

and we even can not switch to FB bc FB does not much but worse in AOE

[shell fossil]

play fatebound

run 691 cudgel

go even

[vivid vessel]

fatebound does about the same amount of prio

[mighty pivot]

those bloodguard packs in arakara are demonic because they halve your pad cleave

[glass mortar]

theres just no reason to run fatebound

it doesnt even do more prio damage

literally all it has is boss damage but assuming ur playing the aoe fatebound build its not even that far ahead in st

PC is cursed

[inland cairn]

what is this

[shell fossil]

but yeah, making fatebound better destroys trickster

[vivid vessel]

idk read words?

[stiff vector]

especially since im useless on every big pull, and still only mediocre at best within our target cap...like what in the actual fuck is the point of the specs existence at this point. Completely garbage prio and boss dmg, arguably one of the worst in the game in keys, no burst, mediocre in 4-8t AoE, completely useless on big pulls...like there is genuinely no point in the spec right now.

[glass mortar]

fatebound losing like 500k prio damage as soon as u hit 3 targets

[shell fossil]

eating > zac words

[glass mortar]

[shell fossil]

not to mention most tanks are running yoda pug pulls

[cedar kernel]

i just thinking about maybe is just bc our spec has no burst so blizz wont uncap us or it will be making us too good, but with the number issue we have rn, theres no reason to uncap

[shell fossil]

there's not a lot of winning for outlaw right now

[inland cairn]

delivered doom is a very cool talent

[mighty pivot]

DD and FI

[vivid vessel]

burst is better than flat damage tho

in these situations

you go into a pull

you pull 30 mobs

who would you rather have

a guy that burst down the pack fast so you dont get overwhelemed by all these mobs

or an outlaw rogue uncapped

i know the answer

[shell fossil]

i was gonna ask

why tomelvis

but it's not worth asking it's a super neat name just figured it's a super normal name lmao

[cinder haven]

I guess we reroll dh or bm

[mighty pivot]

OUTLAW!!!!!!!!

[cinder haven]

I don't think i wanna play sub in pugs

[stiff vector]

I mean having no burst is definitely not helpful, but BM hunter is uncapped and they have pretty high sustained AoE(and actually have some burst too) so Idk how outlaw being capped makes any sense whatsoever

[cedar kernel]

thats the dilemma we are having tho, for blizz, if they rework us as a burst damage, which could make the spec looks like sub, and they want to make those 3 spec has diff but yea the targetcapped no longer to exist anymore if we dont have good numbers, i miss the advantage in DF or SL, we got good number which just make the target capped can be ignore

[shell fossil]

idk flat damage is just execute damage with conditions

it's fun but there's no escalation

[jolly geyser]

make bte execute after 30%

[shell fossil]

give outlaw bleeds

ranged cheese is mid

[stiff vector]

BM is kinda like ranged version of outlaw but actually good. They just cleave off main target, but are uncapped, actually scale with stats, have decent burst, good ST, and are ranged. Like im sitting over here sweating my ass off doing a 100apm rotation, getting griefed by meele mechanics perma....and then the BM hunter is over here just pressing 2 buttons jumping around without a care in the world completely gapping tf out of my damage, and theyre the ones getting buffed

[cedar kernel]

and theres one more issue like, we have the highest APM there, but problem is we broke our hand but cant not get balanced priced, just to have a normal DPS there

[mighty pivot]

BM is getting buffed due to raid performance

so them being good in m+ doesn't matter if they didn't take it into account at all (they should have)

[stiff vector]

no BM is getting buffed because the hunters are sandbagging scum

[vivid vessel]

tom elvis jedusor is the french name of tom marvelo riddle, idk im always uninspired for nicknames and harry potter was my favorite thing

[shell fossil]

no..i get it my rogue's name was desolade before resubbing in dragonflight and before that it was desolane from a 40k novel lol

[cedar kernel]

oh wait zac btw

[shell fossil]

graffiti nameses

[cedar kernel]

i saw u in CN forum today

like something posting ur dmg like tank in Flood 1st pull, i fuck him

no way to judge my lord there

thats the outlaw issue

[stiff vector]

havent rly played any alt yet this season, but I guess I start gearing my hunter now at this point.

[mighty pivot]

monksea is the real 3rd dps in the group

[cedar kernel]

no tomelvis is

1 sec iirc zac did 1st pull in top1 dps

i should send that to the post

[mighty pivot]

just capture screenshots of when he's still first while everything is being gathered

[cedar kernel]

[shell fossil]

idk i've been having fun in sub, did a 11 prio yesterday with 3 pugs and it wasn't sandbag tier even tho i was rupturing during cooldowns

it would be nice if outlaw paired better with like warlocks tho

or triple melee

[torpid fiber]

Tbf I think anyone good enough to play outlaw well can probably learn to play other specs well just fine

[mighty pivot]

like how you become the lock's pet?

[stiff vector]

https://hackmd.io/@Azortharion/BMBuffsSep9 crazy what a little sandbagging can do when Blizzard takes the bait every time. Weird how suddenly the spec gets a 5% buff and now suddenly BM DR is basically the highest simming spec in the game in ST

[jolly geyser]

outlaw succubus

[cedar kernel]

i am just watching my favourite spell fallen to the bottom and can do nothing

[stiff vector]

with this buff BM can probably just play DR in keys and take the loss in AoE dmg compared to playing Packleader, and it will still probably do more AoE than almost every other spec in the game, and it will do INSANE boss dmg+more prio as a trade off.

[jolly geyser]

Outlaw gets hidden buff by saying mommy or daddy to the warlock

we both have picked locks afterall

[worldly shale]

id lock u down baby

[muted crest]

Im lazy and enjoy outlaw but...