12.0 rework is they remove 1 hour tricks and call it a day
#outlaw
vale warren
proven ocean
hunter is meta in M+ incase u think im memeing btw
woven marsh
sweet tide
Ret Paladin here. I heard you guys are looking for some tips on how to get both buffed, and an expansion themed around your class.
proven ocean
its the strongest class in m+ atm
idk what justifies them being buffed
its extremely odd
red zinc
raid
cinder relic
They stink in raid, that's why it got buffed
gaunt phoenix
zinc briar
nice buffs for outlaw!!!
copper radish
hunter is meta in M+ incase u think im memeing btw
bout to let them STAMPEDES rip
mossy shell
are they really op
proven ocean
ye wdym
red zinc
regardless of if they are
proven ocean
look at kira's team
frank finch
vivid vessel
nice pin solo
mossy shell
just press bte more you will feel better
glass mortar
SOLO THE LEGEND
frank finch
red zinc
lizzard does not give a fuck about m+
copper radish
disgusting headline fk wowhead too
red zinc
how many times must we learn this lesson
vagrant saddle
They stink in raid, that's why it got buffed
its not like outlaw is any good outside of useless pad on some bosses
woven marsh
they're mm on most keys
They tune for raid more than m+ tho this early
cinder relic
its not like outlaw is any good outside of useless pad on some bosses
I agree idk why outlaw didn't get buffed
mossy shell
forget about the hunters, play sleight of hand and roll 5 buffs again
mossy shell
and top dps by 2m dps
pad
copper radish
hunters always been bliz faves
red zinc
and buffs the bottom classes
vivid vessel
blizzard opens wowhead overall statistics
bro
red zinc
you think they actually put work into this?
mossy shell
outlaw's job isn't to do prio
glass mortar
it does more prio outlaw by a mile
thats not impressive tho
vivid vessel
they are legit
mossy shell
or funnel
vivid vessel
clueless
mossy shell
or aoe
glass mortar
most specs do now
vivid vessel
clueleess
glass mortar
😠
mossy shell
it's to vibe
vivid vessel
clueless
proven ocean
outlaw's job isn't to do prio
?
vivid vessel
actual
mossy shell
zac plz confirm
proven ocean
nessa idk if ur trolling or not
copper radish
blizzard opens wowhead overall statistics
but i heard blizz had better data
hoary wave
wtf are those ppl doing over there
vivid vessel
devs are useless i cba
proven ocean
but if a class does 20% more dps
than everything
in M+
in all situations
then its automatically broken op
lol
copper radish
but if a class does 20% more dps
they get a 4% OVERALL buff LMAOOOOO
proven ocean
they care about raid only
mighty pivot
rogue devs are still on vacation somewhere in spain 
proven ocean
it is what it is
red zinc
but i heard blizz had better data
if prior data week by week was available easily id lowkey compare balance notes to overall warcraftlogs data
random stirrup
only having one hunter spec be op simply is not enough
proven ocean
atleast bm isnt as op as mm
hoary wave
this is so fucking toxic
random stirrup
we need both of them
red zinc
probably 95%+ overlap
stiff vector
bro there is no fucking way we didnt get buffed
copper radish
blood DK gonna be doing more damage than outlaw in keys with that 6% bump... time to reroll yall
stiff vector
these devs are actually just completely incompetent
sour fossil
I feel bad for the guild I convinced to take my outlaw rogue into mythic
fathom bramble
we won't get buffed while we look acceptable on the mythic stack
proven ocean
my discord is stuck on purple
mossy shell
atleast bm isnt as op as mm
mm is still superior so why is a bm buff an issue
proven ocean
l;ike
fathom bramble
last 2 need to be killed by an otl so we can plummet straight the bottom
proven ocean
copper radish
this is so fucking toxic
us or blizz 😭
vagrant saddle
I feel bad for the guild I convinced to take my outlaw rogue into mythic
dw u will have the talk with u when u reach last 2
worldly shale
go change it tf
proven ocean
mm is still superior so why is a bm buff an issue
?
vivid vessel
I genuily think they dont even know outlaw is bad
dawn talon
I feel bad for the guild I convinced to take my outlaw rogue into mythic
i saw araz changes
vivid vessel
cause they are not following what is happening in the game
vivid vessel
at all
dawn talon
where u have to drop adds behind the thing now
mossy shell
also bm needs to be extremely strong because it will brick your PC, you have to expect 5 or 6 freezes in the group throughout the key
hoary wave
us or blizz 😭
blizzard
vivid vessel
some random guy open wcl once every 3 week
and buff the 3 bottom specs
on the front page
actual clueless
proven ocean
also bm needs to be extremely strong because it will brick your PC, you have to ...
brick what pc
mossy shell
everyone's pc
mossy shell
have you played with a bm
woven marsh
just buy a 2025 pc
You always talk in extremes
mossy shell
it kills the servers more than your pc
woven marsh
Chill
fathom bramble
tons of combat events can brick you regardless of your PC quality
especially with a bad ui
agile orchid
I genuily think they dont even know outlaw is bad
outlaw top 9, must be quite a strong spec 
proven ocean
it kills the servers more than your pc
i never really lagged in m+ and in 30 man splits
copper radish
outlaw top 9, must be quite a strong spec <:Clueless:971749043044778004>
legit this is what they used for buffs NO DOUBT
proven ocean
have you played with a bm
ye why wouldn't i
vagrant saddle
if we all run the raid without bf for 2 weeks we will get a buff right?
bright crane
Looooollll
rose cipher
Boycott outlaw until the next 3% raid renown buff. No new outlaw parses (I’m going out of town so it’s incredibly easy to suggest this)
woven marsh
outlaw top 9, must be quite a strong spec <:Clueless:971749043044778004>
Is that boss dmg or overall dmg?
red zinc
outlaw top 9, must be quite a strong spec <:Clueless:971749043044778004>
Assa buff soon 
proven ocean
otherwise i wouldn't say they're good
bright crane
No buff
mossy shell
if we all run the raid without bf for 2 weeks we will get a buff right?
smart
bright crane
Get FUKT
vagrant saddle
learned from boomies
stiff vector
I think its time we shut down the discord, this is unreal
copper radish
So next go guys. We make sure we are LAST on wowhead logs. Then they have to buff us right?
proven ocean
You always talk in extremes
you're always trying to ragebait the past few weeks u should calm down bro
fluid meadow
go play 1 button shit thing
red zinc
I think its time we shut down the discord, this is unreal
naw ret discord got us
agile orchid
legit this is what they used for buffs NO DOUBT
imagine having any faith in blizzard developers 
copper radish
Like no one prog as outlaw and if u do die on every boss to make DPS look so bad they buff us big
agile orchid
they seem to have missed us again in tuning
they barely did any tuning lmao
tight kernel
!snd
proven ocean
they seem to have missed us again in tuning
the NA rogue is back 
tight kernel
Someone help
buoyant cosmos
they seem to have missed us again in tuning
you can't see rogues in stealth
proven ocean
sup na guy
keen belfry
yoooo
woven marsh
you're always trying to ragebait the past few weeks u should calm down bro
I’m not rage baiting, I can just imagine you at your computer flailing around while typing all this
keen belfry
north america baby!
stiff vector
surely they just have a second half of tuning coming late, like usual 
proven ocean
I’m not rage baiting, I can just imagine you at your computer flailing around wh...
grow up kid
mossy shell
did they buff outlaw?
yes
woven marsh
grow up kid
How much?
mossy shell
they buffed the outlaw's pet hunter by 4%
red zinc
Can you teach zac how to do damage? It seems he cant beat his tank
mossy shell
big win
zinc briar
should they put that we can cast mount meanwhile ks?
proven ocean
@mossy shell
zinc briar
cowboy outlaw?
proven ocean
look at bm already gapping every class below the giga aoe pumpers
mossy shell
<@309425430371500033>
banshers is not human, that means nothing
mossy shell
banshers literally parses 150th percentile
untold current
gaunt phoenix
zinc briar
banshers is like critcake playing warr
proven ocean
banshers literally parses 150th percentile
ye a 1 button spec that nobody really plays
copper radish
<@309425430371500033>
So 12 mil times 1.04 they gonna be doing 12.5mil dps now lol
buoyant cosmos
whats happening
nothing, that's the problem
daring oxide
they'll release more tuning on monday
copper radish
whats happening
No buffs gg pack it up till midnight
daring oxide
outlaw will be in the monday update
stiff vector
guess we just have to be the literal worst spec in the game by every metric to deserve buffs 
daring oxide
dont worry
copper radish
When alpha or beta out
daring oxide
they just need the weekend to cook and fix bugs and think harder about outlaw buffs
so on monday
they'll update the weekly reset tuning 🙂
red zinc
When alpha or beta out
Alpha maybe already out
proven ocean
banshers is not human, that means nothing
our eu hunter is doing the same dps without monk buff -5% , warr buff -5% and druid buff -3%
red zinc
Idk if they share that info
stiff vector
aparently being the worst boss dmg in the game is just not good enough to deserve buffs
proven ocean
missing -13% dps same dps
grave carbon
daring oxide
Guys think about it
proven ocean
daring oxide
if BM got a aura buff
willow portal
Why did i even drop a 0 on fractillus now when we dont even get buffed for thst
daring oxide
outlaw will get a aura buff
proven ocean
thats some microwaved glaze nessa no cappy
daring oxide
BM does giga damage in M+ right now and it got aura buff!
copper radish
our eu hunter is doing the same dps without monk buff -5% , warr buff -5% and dr...
That pet dmg 😂
proven ocean
every bm is doing the same dps 💀
copper radish
DH and BM rest of the season inc
proven ocean
That pet dmg 😂
big skill
stiff vector
we need some last 2 boss kills on mythic so the specs average can get brought down to where it actually should be
proven ocean
command atk omgomg im so good
stiff vector
but who tf wants to play outlaw on those bosses
copper radish
big skill
I love how easy BM is. Barbed shot on 1. Kill command on mouse button. Spam both and hit some beastial wrath’s and GG whole rotation
haughty lagoon
I vote we flood blizz in game feedback thing with outlaw buff requests
random stirrup
what happens if there are just 0 outlaw kills weeks in 
proven ocean
I love how easy BM is. Barbed shot on 1. Kill command on mouse button. Spam both...
0 minmaxes too 💀
copper radish
0 minmaxes too 💀
Just pure dmg
prisma sapphire
I guess I just need to learn how to play Sin and just Outlaw on AOE raid bosses
Cause sin is killing in M+ and decent for the ST bosses
copper radish
just remove outlaw from the game at this point free me from this hell
Calling it now. We become ranged spec in midnight
prisma sapphire
Maybe that is blizzards mentality
We have a pretty good spec so the rest can remain problematic
daring oxide
ok theres two things that can happen before reset,
Another update will go out in 1hr and 30mins, adding rogues to the tuning (buffs/bugfixes)
OR
Another update will go out on monday to push the rogue stuff before reset
Dont lost hope or faith yet they need more time to cook ours as we are more complex!
its not over until reset hits
daring oxide
stop it!
worthy elm
we are cooked
willow portal
Close the cord
daring oxide
so realzz can read it and be compelled to bring salvation to us
willow portal
Ctc!
void canopy
close the dis
daring oxide
stop ittttttttt
sterile summit
we need a place to voice our sadness
junior coral
i just updated zac WA pack and general interface and now i lost the anchors for every thing =/
mild vigil
proven ocean
so realzz can read it and be compelled to bring salvation to us
read what he never reads anymore
junior coral
is there an easy fix before i throw my comp out window?
hearty fulcrum
I switched to sin to fuck around on test dummy. Did 300k more dps ST as sin than outlaw with 704/655 unenchanted daggers and outlaw-optimized stats (compared to 720/710 swords for outlaw). This is so fucked.
mild vigil
is there an easy fix before i throw my comp out window?
Throw it out, then you don’t have to play anymore
copper radish
https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993
@daring oxide this ur new computer desktop background
primal thistle
how to sim for m+ as outlaw?
junior coral
lol
copper radish
how to sim for m+ as outlaw?
Don’t lmao
stiff vector
they need to kill PC and give us our 8-10% aura buff
junior coral
whats the WA tag ?
copper radish
how to sim for m+ as outlaw?
Raid bots and dungeon slice to sim for keys
I wish they looked good this season 😭
proven ocean
@vivid vessel delete outlaw
hybrid crown
Or make fth 1 point instead of 2
worldly shale
what would we do the whole day
royal ermine
delete outlaw
carmine ferry
Just rework outlaw already
carmine ferry
and where would we complain
Retribution channel, idk
celest ravine
The fact that blizzard actually thinks outlaw is in a good spot right now
karmic quest
remove blade flurry
carmine ferry
The fact that blizzard actually thinks outlaw is in a good spot right now
I don't think Blizzard knows Outlaw is available in-game
celest ravine
I don't think Blizzard knows Outlaw is available in-game
You're right
fluid meadow
they don't remember they renamed combat to outlaw, so they buff that
proper veldt
no rogue buffs
celest ravine
would they even notice our discord removal
nah 
proper veldt
xd
carmine ferry
Was Beastmaster even underperforming ? Such a big buff
bright crane
It seems to work
jolly geyser
looks like my ret gonna get more gameplay
buoyant cosmos
Was Beastmaster even underperforming ? Such a big buff
no
worldly shale
this is hillarious
carmine ferry
I swapped from Outlaw to Paladin like a week ago, feels like I might have to make it my main
sterile summit
We cursed for the whole expansion
worldly shale
I swapped from Outlaw to Paladin like a week ago, feels like I might have to mak...
boring tbh
i like havoc
comparable to outlaw
idk
feels good
celest ravine
💀
junior coral
look at this shit lol, why are they coming up in the middle of my screen and no longer around my health bar @vivid vessel lol
mighty pivot
OUTLAW!!!!!!!
worldly shale
daring oxide
carmine ferry
boring tbh
Tbh I swapped because of Protection, and getting fast keys is amazing, having a lot of fun. Haven't played a lot of Retri so far, but it comes with the class right
jolly geyser
ret is great
fathom bramble
ret is just not it
carmine ferry
Idk, I like it. Reminds me of combo points
worldly shale
playing one button
fathom bramble
it was more fun in SL and now with the rework
fathom bramble
it just has nothing going on
not that it had much going on in SL either though to be fair
carmine ferry
The bad part of ret right now is the flat damage profile, similar to Outlaw.
tulip quarry
AHAHAH what a fuckery this "balance tuning"
worldly shale
daring oxide
without closing down this beautiful channel, how can we voice our concerns urgently at blizzard so we get into the tuning before reset?
jolly geyser
eh,not my problem ret is fun and chill with music
carmine ferry
Also, I'm curious, @prisma sapphire raft, why are you named after KHC, and are you changing your name now that the company is splitting?
worldly shale
without closing down this beautiful channel, how can we voice our concerns urgen...
we should def just close it
worked for ret
lethal oak
prisma sapphire
The name is taken already
carmine ferry
Are you staying with Kraft or Heinz?
worldly shale
almost worked for boomie
daring oxide
@vivid vessel i think this is our community getting punished for your mishaps with Realz all those times
daring oxide
nah i need somewhere to write down my hopes
willow portal
we should def just close it
Problem is if we close it and nothing happens because blizz doesnt care for us
spare dome
close dn
carmine ferry
We should all just agree to take a break from Rogue for the remainder of the season, shut down discord, go be a cat or something
proven ocean
@mighty pivot are we getting ur crabby patty recipe to surviving dimensius without any defensives??
mighty pivot
so which race's house will you guys have once it's available? better start planning early
jolly geyser
I would just say outlaw stuff has been a dissapointment and rogue visuals overall are not up to par
worldly shale
Problem is if we close it and nothing happens because blizz doesnt care for us
then we just gone
THEIR LOSS
proven ocean
sorry guys, my fault, every season i skip, outlaw is good
@spare dome can we ban this guy from the discord and in wow too
so that outlaw becomes op forever?
willow portal
THEIR LOSS
Is it tho
mighty pivot
<@205708819458818049> are we getting ur crabby patty recipe to surviving dimensi...
yes it's ready so everybody can kill dimmy now
celest ravine
We play outlaw... We always lose...
jolly geyser
tuning for the 1% players? those people can get fucked for all I care
worldly shale
we gonna win
copper radish
nah i need somewhere to write down my hopes
dream book. write it down. itll become reality for midnight
fluid iron
tuning for the 1% players? those people can get fucked for all I care
based
copper radish
tuning for the 1% players? those people can get fucked for all I care
man the fucking truth hurts lol
worldly shale
proven birch
mighty pivot
someone make rectum-area52 a vip in here
spare dome
whys is it so funny
mighty pivot
I lost all my gold wtf? 
proven ocean
its a spoiler to solo being kicked from the party
for being outlaw
classists...
@fluid iron crazy how dance cdr doesnt even feel enough with x2 coup
what the helly
brisk lotus
The fact that blizzard actually thinks outlaw is in a good spot right now
thing is a few people can pull off at high keys so for them thats good enough
fluid iron
well yeah ofc, cuz it doesent actually change much
proven ocean
ye
fluid iron
cdr per cp is just too low
fluid iron
they will figure it out someday
proven ocean
not even big impact for sub to have coup
its almost like
a normal finisher
just few extra cp
its w.e
reef forge
!fuu
proven ocean
@sacred rune bot is broken again or
jolly geyser
he sleeping
spare dome
reset dn
daring oxide
!buffs
carmine ferry
Blizzard killed the bot as an indirect nerf to Rogues
celest ravine
gz
clear zephyr
will outlaw get a buff?
daring oxide
nice what was the dps
river escarp
Now tettles, how did you get a hold of Nessa's discord info?
mossy shell
@vivid vessel I wish we could triple outlaw, make an NA toon 🙁
frank bane
will outlaw get a buff?
mossy shell
nice what was the dps
it's rude to share details
mossy shell
Now tettles, how did you get a hold of Nessa's discord info?
what do you mean
tight kernel
True zac NA toon when?
dusky temple
proven ocean
<@352916297262301194> I wish we could triple outlaw, make an NA toon 🙁
nope u come to eu bozo
mighty pivot
nessa when stream? 
sterile summit
haha xD
keen belfry
u guys get that alot in NA?
yes 🙁
daring oxide
nerf outlaw?
mossy shell
nessa when stream? <:smadge:1282070482136596521>
sry I was depressed the last couple days, I will stream this evening probably
keen belfry
where dps meter posts
proven ocean
@vivid vessel zerocool screenshotted this
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
yarrgi randomly doing almost 14m overall
and getting a huge buff
on the same week
💀
gaunt phoenix
i guess raid vs m+ tuning moment
proven ocean
ye
mighty pivot
surely for midnight they will finally have different tuning for raid & m+
jolly geyser
im interested in at what lvl devs play at
proven ocean
its gonna be x3 bm hunters
in M+
theres no way it stays that way
well u still need a mage
jolly geyser
prolly will
jolly geyser
im negative
keen belfry
boss damage:
waht fight
daring oxide
first dawnbreaker
keen belfry
how is monksea doing 4mil dps st
daring oxide
ended like this
keen belfry
?
daring oxide
monksea a god apparently
inland acorn
how is monksea doing 4mil dps st
it looks like first 30sec of the fight
so probably popped cds and smoked zac
jolly geyser
then dont link first 30sec,braindamage
frank bane
worldly shale
going schleep chat
jolly geyser
and I still stand by tuning around top 1% give or take is pala
worldly shale
cant wait to wake up to no outlaw channel
junior coral
any one kno why this isnt showing up? https://wago.io/6Xo93TUhx
haughty wigeon
Outlaw btfo
indigo token
i fucking hate blizzard
haughty wigeon
Haha
daring oxide
@vivid vessel I swear you had like a 50% chance to get 5 natty this 17 Dawnbreaker run
indigo token
stuck sparrow
ended like this
yeah fury got hotfixed
their st filler ability can now aoe trigger an aoe proc
jolly geyser
ye I noticed
drowsy ridge
Are we really still paying for BFA and SL?
inland acorn
Are we really still paying for BFA and SL?
the debt is so big, we'll be paying for it for next 10 years
Until WoW 2
cinder relic
Are we really still paying for BFA and SL?
Spec was only okay in sl
drowsy ridge
And of course I wasn't playing WoW during the times when we were good
stuck sparrow
i dont even outlaw being that crazy in SL
jolly geyser
And of course I wasn't playing WoW during the times when we were good
cata
stuck sparrow
i think sire was the last time you could argue outlaw was a better option on the endboss?
inland acorn
Think outlaw in SL was kinda similiar as S3 DF no ?
stuck sparrow
idk i still think outlaw>sin on sire overall
cinder relic
i think sire was the last time you could argue outlaw was a better option on the...
It was good on razs as well
stuck sparrow
just dont tell blizz
craggy quiver
Only time ks was nice
cinder relic
Idk about better, they were both solid
stuck sparrow
about the bonespike extra cp
royal ermine
it got carried by sanctum blue set gems but other than that
stuck sparrow
on dead adds
craggy quiver
Was for raz
stuck sparrow
cinder relic
Oh true sanctum too
royal ermine
SL definitely had the most fun iterations of outlaw imo tho
jolly geyser
Ok, I was playing then. But we SUCKED until Firelands due to haste issues
shit I cant remember, but I remember being top dmg
cinder relic
Loktark was cranking, he invested in blue gems early and it was op
stuck sparrow
i feel sanctum you could play any of the three?
royal ermine
even if it did no dam
cinder relic
Rogue was thanos in sanctum ya
daring oxide
@cinder relic btw theres still a chance they might push more changes on monday right? I've seen them do that before for reset tuning patches
stuck sparrow
ig sub didnt play frost gem set
indigo token
<@96834520417828864> btw theres still a chance they might push more changes on m...
lol no?
cinder relic
<@96834520417828864> btw theres still a chance they might push more changes on m...
Possible yeah
drowsy ridge
shit I cant remember, but I remember being top dmg
I remember running out of energy so easily until we hit the haste breakpoint that FL level gear gave us, and then we were great
inland acorn
Wait
cinder relic
Unlikely but not 0 technically
stoic ore
Been loving outlaw, running these talents. Ive seen people here talking about 2 FTH or SOH. Do you recommend running these talents? If so what do I drop?
inland acorn
Been loving outlaw, running these talents. Ive seen people here talking about 2 ...
you drop thief's versatility for SOH
jolly geyser
dunno about Legion dmg, I was ass 95% of it
cinder relic
Been loving outlaw, running these talents. Ive seen people here talking about 2 ...
Haven't updated the wowhead guide on a lot of the new tech I'll be touching it all up on Monday night
stuck sparrow
legion was funny....
stoic ore
you drop thief's versatility for SOH
Sims better or just pref?
inland acorn
Think it was neutral on ST
stuck sparrow
if you had the ravenholdt ring and greenskin's in EN
inland acorn
Dunno about m+
stuck sparrow
you could be dogshit at the game and still parse 99s
craggy quiver
Experimental
inland acorn
They're still cooking on rules for it
jolly geyser
I got mantle as 3 legen
stoic ore
Word ty
jolly geyser
and sin we went
jolly geyser
craggy quiver
St with FB you drop heavy hitter it's neutral with current rules
stuck sparrow
the "best" overall class legendary in en/tov
was the ring that did a frontal cleave
of your builders
fallen mural
i think we need to say we closing our class discord or not posting anything till they buff outlaw 😛
harsh forge
close the discord boys
indigo token
i think we need to say we closing our class discord or not posting anything till...
honestly
fallen mural
close the discord!
harsh forge
everyone swap to boomkin
harsh forge
close the discord!
cinder relic
This channel is a containment at this point
jolly geyser
close the channel for the 500 outlaw players
cinder relic
If it was closed you would all disperse into the other channels
fallen mural
HAHA
indigo token
If it was closed you would all disperse into the other channels
precisely
it's a dirty bomb
this is a terrorist threat
fallen mural
Damn rogues can't even work together
worldly shale
If it was closed you would all disperse into the other channels
AHAHA
LORE ACCURATE
jolly geyser
wdym im either here or ot,and we will mock you in ot
fallen mural
Close the discord or we will all go play "vipers" in finalfantasy online hahahaha
stuck sparrow
that or "my assa st dmg low"
inland acorn
It's a little bit different situation though
indigo token
Close the discord or we will all go play "vipers" in finalfantasy online hahahah...
viper is fun
inland acorn
We're in S3 right now, which looks to be a long one
So they might just take their time with tuning
jolly geyser
So they might just take their time with tuning
so too late
inland acorn
Especially with turbo boost coming too
inland acorn
so too late
as always but ye
strong halo
NERF OUTLAW
worldly shale
zac should hold some damage bruv
fallen mural
That's from last season. I can tell.
somone link a meter of an outlaw doing bad now pls
strong halo
I propose we close the discord down until we get nerfed
daring oxide
Especially with turbo boost coming too
well as history says, we suffer more with turbo boost as we scale less
carmine ferry
At this point, we need to shutdown Dornogal or something
quaint mauve
i’ve been in my gyms restroom for 20 minutes
river escarp
I propose we close the discord down until we get nerfed
Everyone is always talking about 'to the moon', I wanna go to the core of the planet.
quaint mauve
i’ve never been so miserable
fallen mural
At this point, we need to shutdown Dornogal or something
where was this season 2
worldly shale
i’ve never been so miserable
go hit back again
quaint mauve
how tf did u know
worldly shale
behind u
inland acorn
well as history says, we suffer more with turbo boost as we scale less
I mean I know that
Blizzard probably doesn't lol
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> zerocool screenshotted this
haha
fallen mural
Everyone is always talking about 'to the moon', I wanna go to the core of the pl...
Would the core be, reworking outlaw to make it easier. Or buffing maybe greenskin to make it interesting
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> I swear you had like a 50% chance to get 5 natty this 17 D...
im just better bro
i told you
soh is crazy idk
daring oxide
im just better bro
bro
SOH was literally raining buffs on you this run
i was gobsmacked
at how blessed you were
craggy quiver
Yes I'm a firm believer of soh and ld
daring oxide
show me your auras in details
daring oxide
<@352916297262301194> does ur comp have any funnel spec btw
ye outlaw
dull ivy
it's not ticking down; fighting some training dummies rn
river escarp
Would the core be, reworking outlaw to make it easier. Or buffing maybe greenski...
Probably a bit of both, having Crackshot be the defining talent for any current build feels kinda stinky to me. Maybe one build is super big pistol shot whomping and the other is high apm crackshot spam
keen belfry
i think tobfon says we lose 500k prio dmg in 8t
craggy quiver
Next week for sure guys
quaint mauve
deft = more cp = more finishers = more funnel on primary
i thought that too
inland acorn
Next week for sure guys
next year*
keen belfry
is it our fault for playing pc in raid
glass mortar
kir has very minor funnel but u lose far more st playing an aoe build now a day then u gain from deft
glass mortar
fatebound has nothing obviously
inland acorn
If we dropped PC on pad fights
mighty pivot
if you drop crackshot too it will be even worse
keen belfry
yeah what were we supposed to drop our pad build for mid boss damage
inland acorn
Or look in tank page
near rock
this tuning has me fired up
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> does ur comp have any funnel spec btw
ye war and feral funnel a bit
proven ocean
ye war and feral funnel a bit
ngl if they fix outlaw prio dmg you guys are gonna bang hard
vivid vessel
this tuning has me fired up
entirely your fault we didnt get buffed btw
daring oxide
nice dps
vivid vessel
stop padding with pc you noob
dull ivy
has anyone bugged out ar before? it's just ticking down super slowly
proven ocean
cuz
if u dont blackpowder
ur just losing a shit ton of dps
for no reason
same as outlaw imo
craggy quiver
They should replace PC with wits
daring oxide
zac just build diff
mighty pivot
stop padding with pc you noob
you played PC too this reset, I saw it! 
vivid vessel
ket me sim with soh
inland acorn
They should replace PC with wits
they should bake pc into dancing steel...
The fact that +3 target increase to our only aoe option, requires a talent is... definitely a choice...
daring oxide
wheres our hotfixes
quaint mauve
they deserve incineration yeah
gaunt phoenix
what is this blade rush icon doing
daring oxide
its the fury aoe thing
strong halo
i beat a ele shammy and destro lock on Swampface 15 so idk
keen belfry
100%
inland acorn
100%
daring oxide
what is this blade rush icon doing
quaint mauve
👍
near rock
proven ocean
whats that % on the left
gaunt phoenix
cto bug
vivid vessel
sim
proven ocean
ah
vagrant saddle
how can i bug cto too? 
fallen mural
lmao those % are too low to be zacs.. His would read 94% +
quaint mauve
i just want outlaw
all paths lead back to outlaw…
daring oxide
you think this is just rng
it makes sense yeah over a long time it should balance out but obviously if you high roll BS+TB etc are gonna be your best uptimes
inland acorn
all paths lead back to outlaw…
except path called Blizzard Tuning
vivid vessel
if ks wasnt rng targetting outlaw wouldnt be as terible
daring oxide
imagine if BT was your 79%
vivid vessel
its unfortunate our devs are clueless
vivid vessel
imagine if BT was your 79%
mighty pivot
our what
quaint plover
!wa
inland acorn
its unfortunate our devs are clueless
that's bold assumption
daring oxide
its unfortunate our devs are clueless
I reckon if you say the opposite, like this:
'our devs are amazing <3'
we might get some outlaw buffs on monday before the reset, they read this channel and their feelings are hurt everytime you say they are useless zac 😭
fallen mural
I reckon if we just close the discord down we can get some buffs
And if we don't then vdh, boomkin, priest, welcome back to the top
quaint mauve
if ks wasnt rng targetting outlaw wouldnt be as terible
if it was a normal aoe ability to match it’s like visual, and let me kick during channel
proper bear
I’m convinced the outlaw devs are just pushing changes to a dead branch
We’re probably in a perfect spot in some code branch that won’t ever get resolved
swift hedge
i'd be surprised if rogue even has a balance team
keen belfry
where are 11114
mossy shell
@vivid vessel the Tech route is even better with more outlaws
honestly we hate lust
cinder relic
i'd be surprised if rogue even has a balance team
Sub is pretty OP rn 
mossy shell
fuckkkk bloodlust
swift hedge
Sub is pretty OP rn <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
exactly, where are the sub nerfs 
cinder relic
So true
cinder relic
I dont think any specs are overtuned (in raid)
mossy shell
you guys demanding buffs while we time everything with outlaw no lust 
proven ocean
Like otl, balance
i was expecting outlaw to gap on soul hunters atleast but i was wrong
cinder relic
daring oxide
Like otl, balance
DM realz pls remind him to push his buffs before reset
proven ocean
gaunt phoenix
any coupers
indigo token
you guys demanding buffs while we time everything with outlaw no lust <:antenna...
real
cinder relic
Live sub rogue reaction
proven ocean
any coupers
idk last time i tried couping i got this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif?ex=68bc8970&is=68bb37f0&hm=9ccd46537458ad3259fe0db58f3eb8f790535ad1a47f34047993b18f53beb6c9&=&width=611&height=134
inland acorn
enough to drop tactical nuke
daring oxide
that 2nd sectec must of been a nuclear bomb with coldblood wtf
cinder relic
I mean I was gonna get a rank 1 on our reclear this week
and then somebody fucked up walls
vivid vessel
Live sub rogue reaction
thats kinda classic if you pre pull coup tho
tbh
well proccing a second in 2 strike is a bit lucky
vivid vessel
Not pictured is another set of coups still in flag
ye buit thats cause you get 2 natural coup per blades
if you pre pull sec tech then you can easely get 3 no?
cinder relic
Not always no
random stirrup
with pre pull sec tech
Any old ones get overwritten by the new sectec
vivid vessel
you spend them on pull wdym
especially the way he did his opener with vanish and not insta going into flag
random stirrup
Ya but once you sectec coup coup in cds
vivid vessel
uhr sec tech i meant
random stirrup
You only have 2 left guaranteed
vivid vessel
2.5
which is litteraly a coup garanted basically
you need to proc one with tier
on 3 strikes
random stirrup
You need 2x tier procs or tier + thousand cuts proc to get them before cb sectec
vivid vessel
you will legit always get a thousand cut reset
and you just need one tier proc
thats why i said 3 strike is almost a garante
daring oxide
if you pre pull sec tech then you can easely get 3 no?
what you mean by this prepull
daring oxide
oh right
vivid vessel
@proven ocean
daring oxide
it persists through death and boss pull?
daring oxide
unseen blades
vivid vessel
it persists through death and boss pull?
yes?
daring oxide
i thought in raids it resets
daring oxide
what the fuck
proven ocean
<@1172550924519080006>
whats up
vivid vessel
proven ocean
ah
proven ocean
ye i mean
vivid vessel
vivid vessel
ye shits crazy
proven ocean
yarrgi is pulling off crazy numbers
like
no raid buffs
and hes doing 14m
idk
like
no 4%
and 14m
is alot man
vivid vessel
yep good tuning man good tunig
proven ocean
azor msged me
2 weeks ago btw
"you must be having fun ur spec is giga op"
says him
now hunter is assa 2.0
vivid vessel
why would he message you randomly
proven ocean
no idea
literal random msg
out of nowhere
but
im sure he knew hunter was op?
or?
proven ocean
why would he message you randomly
he knows me kinda
cinder relic
Nerfed 20% still thanos
random stirrup
Black arrow nerfed by 8% 4 weeks in a row btw
red zinc
WE will ALL gear hunters
wintry solar
I'm just not gonna do the nightfall event and blame me not getting it on bad rng
I already did it a bajillion times so not really a lie.
fair tapir
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Jvr8NhWbp2dTLtPY trying to figure out what I can improve. I assume that part of my issue is vanish timings
still shard
Do we need to close too?
frank bane
Do we need to close too?
Nah reroll mage and say the yellow bar isn't big enough on the meters when we play Outlaw, then we will get buffed.
proven ocean
gaunt phoenix
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Jvr8NhWbp2dTLtPY trying to figure out what ...
23 killing sprees in 25 minutes seems low asf
ks is the highest priority finisher except not in stealth
It is higher prio than vanish, unless you must vanish immediately to not lose AR
wintry solar
He forgot to turn his restless blades on solo
gaunt phoenix
you also try not to vanish if killing spree is up very soon, but sometimes you still have to
river maple
!prekey
fair tapir
It is higher prio than vanish, unless you must vanish immediately to not lose AR
I think this has been the issue with that
bright crane
what are u guys making for 3rd craft?
craggy barn
god dimmy fucking sucks
cinder relic
It's such a fun fight (on sub)
wintry solar
Played that dude on unholy and had a blast
Played it on outlaw and blasted my monitor
shy pecan
frail veldt
Do we need to close too?
It says without
swift hedge
silksong just came out
frank bane
Based
gaunt phoenix
poe2
undone notch
Do the new perk points coming in midnight mean we get to run both HO and KiR for the memes?
fathom bramble
you will likely put the spec tree points into the apex talents
and not into any of our old stuff
cinder relic
Technically yes, but it sounds like they want you to play apex talents
proper veldt
fathom bramble
healer not liking the tankiest rogue spec 🤔
sudden fulcrum
someone post the cat on a horse gif nm found it https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1413378367717244999/ride.gif?ex=68bc5f6e&is=68bb0dee&hm=1196007aaa8b42c93d59df1652b764e6c514ad2787133c698ca035f0121fc1c1&=
undone notch
Are there apex talents for both class and spec trees? The information on how the new points work are confusing and I’m not the smartest lol
fathom bramble
spec tree will have 4 apex talents on the bottom that conisist of 1 big node a 2 point small node and 1 final big node
class tree has no apex talents and will just gain 3 more points you can spend
hero talents gain a new line that consists of 3 talents and 3 new points as you level
indigo token
old gull
new meme just dropped
wintry solar
Kir with vigor inc
snow viper
What a tier to roll both Enhance and Outlaw, think it's time to send it back for Midnight
undone notch
So for the class tree, we can spend them anywhere?
wintry solar
You can
random stirrup
cant believe they took your feast too
undone notch
I’m hyped tbh
random stirrup
messed up
wintry solar
But probably shouldnt
old gull
maybe i go bm hunter
indigo token
the mythical HOKIR tree
undone notch
I thought it would be something boring like +1 point per tier for class tree
proper veldt
cant believe they took your feast too
ikr
frank bane
RiP your feast
undone notch
But like, realistically what are rogues spending extra class tree points on for anything but Vigor though
Maybe Cold Blood?… idk
fathom bramble
2 lethality, 1 vigor 1 leth, or 2 vigor
not really much else going on
and for specs or builds that don't really benefit from subterfuge there's basically no choice
you just take everything except subterfuge
undone notch
I still think it’s funny that the subclass with a goddamn gun is the most reliant on vanish lol
undone notch
Can’t wait for an apex talent to make Blade Rush meta
wintry solar
I like the charge
gaunt phoenix
Blade Rush triggers Blade Rush on all enemies hit.
undone notch
Honestly, I think it would be kinda cool if they made Blade Rush an earlier tier talent, and just made it activate passively after you grappling hook
Give it something blizzard, cmon
mighty pivot
healer not liking the tankiest rogue spec 🤔
lower hps because the damage taken is lower
sudden flicker
close the discord
fair tapir
23 killing sprees in 25 minutes seems low asf
44 in 29 min should be a lot better then, yes?
lime lake
desert tendon
ok you are afk i host wox sorry cuh
analog fog
<@352916297262301194>
ty 4 afk
exotic agate
!fuu
civic zephyr
Hey any tips on how to get my collector damage higher on mythic forgeweaver?