outlaw

[cinder haven]

What if you are unlucky with rolls? Looks to me that it will cap and you'll still hold

[torpid fiber]

yeah

can you clarify this because copy is not actually working as a keyword and i'm stupid

[cinder haven]

You're in advanced sim I assume?

[torpid fiber]

ah that'd be it

[cinder haven]

You need a baseline definition for the character, gear apl etc before the copy too

[torpid fiber]

ye i was trying to do it in quick sim

[cinder haven]

copy will copy all above and then you apply changes on top of that below

[cedar kernel]

brothers

i am going to show u a bug

[cinder haven]

Hey bac

[cedar kernel]

but rly rly bad

gm tobfon

[cinder haven]

Good bug or bad bug?

[cedar kernel]

no circle

he just shot it

💀

[jolly geyser]

random gifs

[wintry solar]

[cinder haven]

Enough of that

[cedar kernel]

every time we are going to do a 15

somethings will happen

then we dooed

[jolly geyser]

[torpid fiber]

the change i made was

actions.items+=/use_item,name=unyielding_netherprism,if=(rtb_buffs>=4|!talent.keep_it_rolling)&(buff.vanish.up|!talent.subterfuge)|fight_remains<=20

to

actions.items+=/use_item,name=unyielding_netherprism,if=(rtb_buffs>=4|!talent.keep_it_rolling)&(buff.vanish.up|!talent.subterfuge)|fight_remains<=20|buff.unyielding_netherprism.stack>=18

[harsh crystal]

!loot

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1406175771495759952/outlaw.webp

[jolly geyser]

track on the sauce?

[torpid fiber]

this backs up my theory that the sims just aren't going 3 minutes without KIRing

[cinder haven]

@patent lion can we get some moderation in here?

[patent lion]

bro's just spamming random gifs?

[cinder haven]

Yep

[patent lion]

oh and that's literally all he's contributed in 3 months

easy enough

[proven ocean]

No idea what ur talking about

[patent lion]

!ban @green sinew pointless gif spam

[cinder haven]

Just a bad joke

[jolly geyser]

[patent lion]

my turn

[proven ocean]

Ah

[patent lion]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-simpsons-homer-whistle-gif-3132297775970105154

[cinder haven]

Ty whispyr

[patent lion]

thanks for the ping, have a good one

[wintry solar]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-warcraft-mudskipper-blind-caveskipper-goofy-fish-gif-11632226146250104366

[cedar kernel]

[wintry solar]

It just dawned on me that those fish were inspired by mudskippers

[cedar kernel]

its pretty sad rn

idk whats the problem we have

[red zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451631560827994112/1350902980614033428/ride.gif

[cedar kernel]

but we just cant time a 15+

[proven ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451631560827994112/1350902980614033428/ride.gif

[hasty warren]

Does killing soulbinder unlock Lomitar loot table ?

[proven ocean]

probably ye

not sure but it should i think

[tropic zephyr]

i need this as mount

no cappy

[indigo ginkgo]

Yes

[hasty warren]

So it's better for progress to go on soulbinder first and loumitar then ?

[indigo ginkgo]

If u sure that u can’t kill loumitar this week and can kill soulbinder ,yes

But it’s both easy bosses now

[hasty warren]

loumitar seems a little harder, maybe i'm biased

[steep rampart]

guys, what actually consumes double jeopardy apart from finishing moves with 5 CP? Adrenaline rush and Ghostly strike with 4 PC TWW3?

[lone spear]

are there any known issues with getting 2 stacks of the frailty debuff on soul hunters after only soaking 1 soul?

[willow portal]

easy preroll snipe

[cloud abyss]

!haste

[ornate heath]

A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The HO build gets Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[tight kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451631560827994112/1350902980614033428/ride.gif

[vague cape]

rip bac's group

[next thunder]

If I am crafting both my weapons (sword / dagger) and sword has elemental focusing lens, what should the dagger have? (assuming you shouldn't stack elemental focusing lens)

[desert tendon]

Bac is the cutest in here

If you disagree you have bad taste and probably play mage

[cedar kernel]

ty censi

[fading hatch]

are sims right for dungeon slice with the mace offhand? its simming 1% higher overall than crafted dagger for me which i was not expecting

since its only 678

[quiet root]

cudgel is a balanced item

[torpid fiber]

It's really fucking good

[feral phoenix]

anyone got a fancy WA to tell me to press KiR?

[quiet root]

there's a really popular one that will probably be the top result when you type "roll the bones" into wago

[feral phoenix]

silly me, i typed keep it rolling and got results from dragonflight

somehow still 2024 and below results. nothing from this year

[quiet root]

sorted by stars it is the top result:
https://wago.io/Pd53s_NPU

[feral phoenix]

thanks a lot!

[long barn]

Are we supposed to be using BtEs on CD?

[torpid fiber]

iirc it doesn't matter so it's easier to just do so whenever you remember so you don't risk dropping the crit buff

But also sometimes you can hold it to have an option for detaching from melee for a gcd when you wouldn't otherwise

[long barn]

ah ok

[quiet root]

it's below killing spree, coup, and vanish (during AR) in priority

[torpid fiber]

It's probably slightly better to do it with RP up but like

[quiet root]

if you're trickster

i think fatebound might have RP rules?

it used to

[torpid fiber]

I think they got killed

[loud wing]

anyone got a minimalistic RTB WA that just tells you to roll without covering half ur screen

[torpid fiber]

Just grab an existing one and cut out all the other stuff

[strong cargo]

with 2 FTH since we break KS, should we avoid to supercharge it if possible ? Like not roll if I should do it but I'll press KS anyway after it

[quiet root]

the one i linked just now has instructions for customization in the description, so you can make it not cover as much of the screen

i don't know if there's another one that's kept up to date

[torpid fiber]

There's a bunch

I'm pretty sure the luxthos one works, roll rules are so simple this tier

also you can just edit the logic easily tbh

Grab one that doesn't work and then make it work if you have any coding experience

[quiet root]

seems easier to take the popular one and follow the instructions to customize it

unless you really hate how it looks even if it were smaller and less loud

[torpid fiber]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[torpid fiber]

I know a lot of ppl here use the one here bc it has advanced functionality

I use the luxthos one and bc roll rules are so simple rn it either works out of the box or you change exactly one checkbox (idr)

[quiet root]

i use zac's rtb tracker but it doesn't explicitly tell you when to roll

[torpid fiber]

yeah that's fair

I need to figure out how to mod it into the luxthos pack edit I use sometime

[fluid meadow]

i mixed them by deleting same things and just kept which is better to me, ( maybe i got so much freeze cause of that, or just my pc or the game is bad idk)

[torpid fiber]

It hopefully shouldn't be too bad, I'm just super lazy

[quiet root]

the 3-second freeze stuff? happens to the best of us

idk what's wrong with the game but so many of my friends get them from time to time

[fluid meadow]

yeah the interesting part is that, i got more or maybe only on my rog i don't remember if i got freeze on my shaman while healing but not playing that much with alts

the only diffs are wa-s but happens same thing with others so should have been a game issue while randomly wowerror cause of no ram sometimes

[willow portal]

Luxthos doesnt really work for kir

Or i am just dumb

[torpid fiber]

It doesn't for kit but does for rtb

I made it work for kir by copy pasting the rtb code and changing the number

I feel like luxthos stuff is 80% of the way to what I want, so I just mod them

(I don't like a lot of the tww positioning changes so I revert them; I add logic for KIR/similar; I make all the glows different colours because colour coding is op as fuck)

[vivid vessel]

do any of you guys have an addon or weak aura that remove these sell groups

im 100% certain i used to not see any

but now its everywhere

[willow portal]

,es

Yes

Premadegroup filter and lfgspam sth

[vivid vessel]

is that an addon or weak aura

[willow portal]

Not sure on the second addons name, will check when at home

[vivid vessel]

i do use premade groups filter

[willow portal]

Addons

[vivid vessel]

but it doesnt seem to filter that

maybe it broke idk

[willow portal]

Check the other one

[frank finch]

zac whats the addon u use that shows your rep the way u have it

[vivid vessel]

i dont think

[frank finch]

like al lthe different reps

[vivid vessel]

it does that

[willow portal]

Hm

[vivid vessel]

i think i used to have a weak aura that just yeeted every group with 0 io

but now it doesnt do it anymore

[vivid vessel]

pluymber

plumber

[fluid meadow]

i asked this today before, solve maybe this or at least less boost group

[torpid fiber]

I think you can do that through premade group filter

[willow portal]

You saying my lfgspamfilter isnt doing anything?

[vivid vessel]

oh i guess this is baseline

i forgot

[frank finch]

i used to just filter the letters wts

[vivid vessel]

ok

good

this should do it

[cedar kernel]

i have a question rn, where should the mini boss be combined

and the lust should put it to 2 or 3

[vivid vessel]

we do this bac

lust pull 2

we cc one caster with hex on pull 2 cause otherwise its a bit hard

like you cc the patrol caster

not hex uh

the monk thing

para

[cedar kernel]

the jail i get it

[vivid vessel]

ye

and then on boss we just pull things slowly

like pack by pack

the mobs do nothing so

[cedar kernel]

fair

[vivid vessel]

you pull the caster pack on pull

and then slowly every other pack

[cedar kernel]

we have argue about it bc tank make it like this

[indigo token]

ok so

[vivid vessel]

well these 2 mobs down there do nothing

but it makes target cap worse

[indigo token]

i found out why my plexus parse is so bad

[vivid vessel]

while they are free on boss

[indigo token]

see if you can find it

[cedar kernel]

yea it does, but we wiped bc when the mini boss with caster combo

we failed

[vivid vessel]

wound poison

but i dont thik the diff is insane

so

[cedar kernel]

everyone dies there

[vivid vessel]

ye

thats why we cc a caster

makes it kinda chill

[cedar kernel]

so we jail 1 caster, so only give one

[vivid vessel]

you have one caster to kick, and let tank kick minibos

[indigo token]

[vivid vessel]

i mean thats not just poison

[cedar kernel]

get it

[vivid vessel]

haha

[cedar kernel]

ty zac

[indigo token]

i know

my confidence is shot at my awful performance

[vivid vessel]

the diff isnt massive for outlaw

mostly assa

that loses a lot

from playing wound poison

[indigo token]

idk

its prob skill issue

i had 71% AR uptime

[opal raven]

Blame it on the bad rng

[prisma vessel]

this is all the WTS Nerds in LFG, thats crazy.... love this addon

[indigo token]

LMAO

based

[fluid meadow]

i would say this is the 1st problem death happens

[cedar kernel]

💀 tbh my group going to be broken, i might returned to solo push again

[prisma vessel]

dude its crazy tho.

like if you want to flood the pugs, do it in another avenue!

[tight kernel]

Yo Zac

Blizz coding lets you ignore s2 keys for resils

[torpid fiber]

what

Oh lmao

Awesome

[vivid vessel]

wdym

oh

well thats not true

we have 21 resil

and we have depleted keys by going in and out

so

fake news

[bright ferry]

If I want to sim a multi-target situation, like in M+, should I sim "5boss" or "dungeon slice" on raidbot? tyia

[gaunt phoenix]

Slice is generally fine

but you can also look at sustain 5 target results

The nightfall weapon won't work in patchwerk

[bright ferry]

alright, thank you solo

[strong halo]

Do you guys track super charger?

[keen belfry]

I think he means like if you have all 20s timed besides flood and psf THIS season, blizz coding would say u have resi 20

[strong halo]

And is there any point? Do we play around it really?

[torpid fiber]

I track it but don't look at the tracker ever or pay attention to it so no you don't really need to track it

[hasty warren]

arak 12, i'm a bit low no ?

[strong halo]

What’s ur ilvl

[vivid vessel]

ah i see

[hasty warren]

705

[vivid vessel]

@tight kernel is that what you mean

[strong halo]

I did 7m overall on Arak 12 at 704 so idk

[keen belfry]

That’s atleast how i interpreted it

[long barn]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[vivid vessel]

ye

i see i see

i forgot resil worked that way

[strong halo]

Are they gna nerf arak 1st boss again? That shit looked cancer on 18

[vivid vessel]

@keen belfry

you there cuh

[keen belfry]

Hey lil cuh

[vivid vessel]

did you get tww dungeon

from causese

imma update mine finally

[keen belfry]

I used that other pack

[vivid vessel]

but im wondering about the anchor things

[keen belfry]

The owner replied

Try it today and lmk

I’m using a whole diff pack it’s kinda good

[vivid vessel]

which one

[vivid vessel]

who

cause?

or you mean the other

[keen belfry]

https://wago.io/bYBj1kDwz

[keen belfry]

Causese replied you need the anchors I think, there was just an issue with globally updating the border

[vivid vessel]

hm

idk if i wannna change pack

cause one is kinda goated

why did you end up changing

just cuase of the anchors or

[keen belfry]

Yeah

[vivid vessel]

imma see if i can make it work

[keen belfry]

Lmk

This pack is good tho

Lotta text stuff which I like

But since he split up by dungeon I had to change a fair amount of display settings to make it look good

[silver venture]

does blade flurry apply poisons to other 7 targets? if so is it worth swapping to crippling poison for first section of tazavesh gambit cuz pugs just simply cant casts slows on murlocs

[hasty warren]

no one wants me in 13 🥲

I'm restraining myself to tag as sub

[keen belfry]

Yes and worth

[cedar kernel]

idk how does outlaw feels like for most people now

for me it seems like medium aoe, medium or worse ST

only for trickster

[keen belfry]

Yeah mids in both, agree

[cedar kernel]

pretty tough to push or getting into a group bc we dont have any thing special in dmg

[hasty warren]

we just have a constant good cleave

but it's not what ppl wants

[cedar kernel]

fair

[hasty warren]

honnestly with an aura buff we're fine

[cedar kernel]

wait tuning havent out yet?

thats what i ask for recently

[hasty warren]

like 3-5%

[cedar kernel]

i hope 8% for ST, 3-5% for pure AOE

then we are rly good

and giving me confidence to push

[silver venture]

dont ppl pull crazy logs in full phys comp

still bad for pugging i feel

[cedar kernel]

nah just chain pulls

all phys is good for instant chain pulls

[silver venture]

ah gotcha

[cedar kernel]

like i always want my tank to keep pulling

unless healer want to have a rest

the best way i think but idk our tank just argue with me today, feeling cringe bc we havent found a healer who would like to keep playing with all melee team

[hasty warren]

monk tank sham heal feral furry/arms with outlaw is fun

[cedar kernel]

i can do 15+ in pugs but our team cant even push a 14+

i cant found wheres the issue there

is it my problem or others

[sudden fulcrum]

what if you're just getting carried in pugs

is that possible or are you just the best

[cedar kernel]

yea i am thinking about that bc in my group i am always the one but in pugs i will be 1st or 2nd

[hasty warren]

@cedar kernel how u get defias role ?

[cedar kernel]

pay

[hasty warren]

oh xd

it's like u're a donator for the server ?

[cedar kernel]

yea

[keen belfry]

bac is the goat

[cedar kernel]

our team is very cringe rn

bc we cant found the issue there

and cant pushing

14+ rn is easy for us

but we fail every 15 we did

[sudden fulcrum]

from deaths or what?

[tight kernel]

Ye

[cedar kernel]

@sudden fulcrum something like that↑

[sudden fulcrum]

how do you get to a 15 and not know where to aim the orb?

[cedar kernel]

bc its not aiming me

no arrows no circle

[sudden fulcrum]

well you know it's on you so it should be obvious not to be near a wall

[cedar kernel]

its not

u can check it slowly

nothing is showing its on me

[sudden fulcrum]

you can also see your WA on the left side and even if you can't tell it's on you specifically, you could have been in a better position

there's no reason to be on the side like that

[cedar kernel]

like when the orb is one me, theres arrow on head also a huge circle right

but feral was dead atm also the orb might on him

so the mob just do the casting but point on him when he just on the sky

idk if theres a way to check who the mobs is pointing to

[sudden fulcrum]

could also use something like this https://wago.io/6ypaqO9f1

[queen kiln]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
• Just before key placement use AR into KS to get Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
• KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
• During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open onto the pack with AR into BtE.

[cedar kernel]

i could confirm that the target is not me muffin, i am 100% sure

:/

idky he will target a dead dps

[frail veldt]

There's a pretty high chance it's a bug

[cedar kernel]

just unlucky

yea mewo got me

i could understand muffin bc when the orb exploded

everyone thought its my fault at that moment

but i check the replay found this

[gaunt phoenix]

skill issue bac

[cedar kernel]

[gaunt phoenix]

krill issue you could say

[sudden fulcrum]

i didn't consider the possibility that it's targeting a dead player due to a bug, because you are next to the wall and it does seem like it's aiming at you

[cedar kernel]

😿

today is the worst day brothers

[sudden fulcrum]

i mean, if it's due to a bug then it's not a problem with you or your team right?

it's annoying yes, but what can you do?

[cedar kernel]

fair

i was cringe tho it seems like the group is going to fall apart

everyone lost confidence with the group even me

[sudden fulcrum]

my group makes mistakes too, but i focus on myself and how i can improve, because i am the only one i can control

[cedar kernel]

yea i keep myself from 0 death but idk we always cant time a 15

[sudden fulcrum]

well at least now you know about the bug, so you can try to work around it

[cedar kernel]

i will keep working hard mate thx

idk if my team8 are mading at me i might pushing alone with pugs tomorrow

[sudden fulcrum]

you could talk to them and see how they feel

[cedar kernel]

yea i would tomorrow

bc its pretty late rn

they slept

[sudden fulcrum]

[cedar kernel]

have a nice day brothers

[sudden fulcrum]

you too

sorry i doubted you. i didn't know about the bug

[grim spear]

fighting this boss makes me feel so useless.

buff outlaw plz

[craggy quiver]

Need to play coins for st

Zac said so

[grim spear]

I tried coin

st didn’t really go up much, and aoe gone.

it's better anyway

[fathom holly]

solo why is rtb twice in pre key

if only 2 stacks stay

[gaunt phoenix]

cuz KS consumes one

you go from 4 > 3 > 2 > 4

[fathom holly]

ah okay it even says in the command

dumbo me

i didnt know the new ks pre key tech

i kiss your cheeks thx

[gaunt phoenix]

Twice is not a big deal tho if you dont have time

[strong halo]

@keen belfry which pack do you prefer overall? New one?

[gaunt phoenix]

pack ?!

[strong halo]

He changed dungeon packs

[proper veldt]

I mean the anchors are nice no for causese

now ur pack always stays the same through each expansion

[keen belfry]

the anchors dont let u update border

unless he fixed recently

[strong halo]

Anchors are nice but some visuals I don’t like idk I’m exploring my options

[keen belfry]

bth are fine

[proper veldt]

it works I think but for some reason drop shadow bugs out for me on the anchors

I use square full white with black border color that works

[vivid vessel]

wtf guys

[mighty pivot]

it's done like that to cover for places where you cannot use a dummy right? because with a dummy (or critter) you only need 1 rtb

[vivid vessel]

bro no way there isnt a sword equivalent

im so mad

[royal ermine]

[covert kestrel]

They are making you play sub

[vivid vessel]

[mighty pivot]

you will be able to use it in midnight if they allow dagger outlaw

[random obsidian]

not if

when

[mighty pivot]

the hugest if

trust nobody

[grim spear]

oh

[hardy thicket]

Gg they made a dagger in honor to you zac

[proven ocean]

It will work next expac

Maybe no swords anymore

Then you’ll be mad again right

[junior coral]

i was watching my buddy who plays ret pally... homie can be a mile away and still pump lol

why they take the extra range away from rogue...

[hidden mauve]

Is it expected to have fatebound sim higher than trickster in dungeon slice?

[frank finch]

yes

[late swallow]

Holy shit haha that’s goated

[proven ocean]

If @tepid skiff was ever an engineer i imagine him to do this

@vivid vessel agree or

[vague cape]

@vivid vessel

[tepid skiff]

LOL

idk what i was expecting but it wasnt this

fkin legendary clip

[proven ocean]

[tepid skiff]

my brothers an engineer ill ask if he ever tried this

also

[proven ocean]

[tepid skiff]

pretty sure thats just a construction job

but yeah thats a good fkin video lol

[vivid vessel]

cant wait cuh

[proven ocean]

This looks funny as hell

[gaunt phoenix]

[ashen void]

HONH HONH

Realz saw and made it happen

[strong halo]

Is this real no way

I’m a sub main if so

[ashen void]

but to troll gave only dagger form

[strong halo]

🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 assemble 🥖🥖 Contract baguettes

[hallow spoke]

Is sleight > deft for araz? looking at some specs ppl seem to favour it

[rapid ore]

one of the biggest crimes in modern wow

[gaunt phoenix]

i don't think deft is good in the raid anywhere

[hallow spoke]

figured araz had enough adds to make it worth

[gaunt phoenix]

using both loaded dice and sleight is possibly a thing but it's been kind of exploratory

[hallow spoke]

ig other option would've been swift?

[gaunt phoenix]

i would swift until the reroll rules are figured out

a handful of CN logs were using loaded dice + sleight

i think it's more likely people were copying that

than using it because of us

[frail veldt]

Maybe more upper variance with sleight

So if you're just trying to parse

[gaunt phoenix]

it's probably the next minor cook

[frail veldt]

Might as well ditch ss

[gaunt phoenix]

idk

im looking at the r1 araz log right

[tight kernel]

I think Im turning off elvui

and going zac pack or somethin

[copper radish]

is this mindfracturing odium from delves any good? got a hero track one

[gaunt phoenix]

the dude rolled 18 times, and 12 of them were with loaded dice active

so only subset of your total rolls has sleight active

it is interesting, that sleight does just give you a 7% five buffs chance

and as kir if you hit 5 buffs you can possibly chain it for the majority of the encounter

@sick dawn you asked about LD+Sleight once, there probably is more merit to it than what i originally thought

[hallow spoke]

So, we still run swift or you think the 7% chance is worth?

[gaunt phoenix]

i personally wouldn't do it yet

but swift is also not that strong of a talent

probably not losing much even if it's uncertain what sleight does to rtb rules

[craggy quiver]

What is this soh ld black magic

What you dropping heavy hitter?

[gaunt phoenix]

On st maybe

[willow portal]

will try this now on araz

or are there any improvements i could make

[mighty pivot]

don't let zac see this

he will stab you with his baguette dagger

[cold falcon]

brothers its been a while

but i need help

[willow portal]

bröther

[cold falcon]

is there an outlaw opener that guarantees the lucky coin

like in assa

[craggy quiver]

Yea

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

but it is bug abuse

[cold falcon]

huh

[gaunt phoenix]

/cast Adrenaline Rush
/cast Ghostly Strike```

open with this macro and you get 6 of both coins

so your next flip is guaranteed to be a 7th

[cold falcon]

oh

[willow portal]

bug "abuse"

-> clever use of game mechanics

[cold falcon]

i got 5 of both rn

[sick dawn]

Yea I asked a while back because I noticed the CN cooks in logs and was confused. I figured it just leans into the rtb gamba that the CN outlaws seems to love

[spring bay]

My overall dps on 8-10s is usually around 5.6mil—how bad is that? My adr uptime is like 85%

[sick dawn]

I think thats just fine. Especially with pug groupsthe pulls arent usually done in a way that benefits outlaw and our uptime.

[cold falcon]

nvm it works thx a lot

but if i get it right, outlaw became a burst class in single target

[craggy quiver]

No we don't burst lol

[cold falcon]

you just line up ar gs and a vanish to pump out coins at once

i mean it looks this way to me now

[leaden folio]

did someone already ping zac about the last wowhead post

[craggy quiver]

Yes lol

[vivid vessel]

ok that happens every 20s

thats not bursting

[leaden folio]

baguette dagger lets go

where tacos dagger

[vivid vessel]

you dont even see your dps go up on wcl timeline

still all flat

[cold falcon]

aight

[indigo token]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-oh-my-god-bruh-saleswoman-oh-my-god-bruh-gif-2398788864743270124

[craggy quiver]

I need to try out soh ld

[old python]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[full rain]

Yo guys, I've been playing outlaw for a while now, switched to KIR build this season. Sometimes though it seems that energy regen is rough. Especially if i ever have to sinister strike 3x in a row. Recovery is hard and I lose ADR uptime due to it. I have about 19% haste, running the default m+ build. Can this be just a rotational mistake?

HO seems a lot more forgiving

[gaunt phoenix]

it sometimes happen but you should generally be zooming

[worldly shale]

@proven ocean dis u?

[full rain]

Ye usually I'm zooming but idk if it's just bad rng sometimes.

[gaunt phoenix]

Well it is

1fth has some rng swings

[fathom bramble]

it can be a rotation mistake, but you can also just get unlucky and lose AR or have periods that you can't cast on gcd

[gaunt phoenix]

mostly on st if you cant get a good set of kir buffs going

you're gonna stall out a bit

[full rain]

Hm, will try to get a bit more haste i think. Anyway if someone is willing to point out mistakes, feel free to have a go https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/76278363?zone=45

[gaunt phoenix]

19% haste is expected and shouldnt need more

[fluid meadow]

bruh kir ambush again?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah the kir build doesnt press ambush at all

without the ambush talents, it's not worth the damage, also less CTO procs for kir

[fluid meadow]

yeah its so common mistakes nowadays idk if most of them played HO before and just have ambush there or game replace and put ambush to action bar instead of ss?

[latent slate]

crippling poison for myth araz?

[full rain]

Yes, it's auto replaced

Thanks for the pointer

[fathom bramble]

I assume most players use a stealth bar with ambush on it

and this is the first time casting sinister after vanish or in stealth has been a meaningful gain

[fluid meadow]

surely if they use blizazrd 1 button or rotational helper it shows to press ambush with kir

[fathom bramble]

kir might be the first time for them at least

[full rain]

Its literally on my stealth bar yeah 😄 will replace

[indigo token]

dude what dogshit game are you playing

[worldly shale]

Idk its a toilet game

Its whole purpose is for me to shit

So valid take

[indigo token]

i think im starting to resent outlaw

like

you try so goddamn hard in keys

and you always end up dead last

[cinder haven]

Its a bit rough rn ye

But dying last is good surely

[hardy thicket]

Yeah the dopamine hits are not quite as effective when you play your heart out only to be last

[cinder haven]

It feels like you are blasting but then you look at the meters

[mild vale]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[worldly shale]

remove details

problem solved

[hardy thicket]

hey this isnt progress raiding this is keys god damnit

details is half the fun

[jade abyss]

If GS is already on the target but the CD is back, and vanish is back too, it's worth to just send the vanish even if there is like 5sec remaining on GS ?

[mild vigil]

Yes, it will pandemic the duration

[gaunt phoenix]

dont need to think about gs duration anyway

[junior coral]

whats the new cheese to get CDR rolling outta combat, snd spam? i know it use to work with echo i think

[gaunt phoenix]

!sndbug

[ornate heath]

There is once again a bug that lets you spam Slice and Dice during downtime for CDR. It works by causing SnD to refund CPs as if it benefits from Supercharger.

To activate the bug have to consume Supercharger once normally with RTB > finisher, and then SnD will bug out until your next damaging finisher, so you can spam a cancelaura macro while it is bugged. From 1CP, SnD will have an 80% chance to refund CPs so you can't spam it forever. To activate it between pulls, you have to delay RTB until towards the end of the pack. This can mean that trying to activate the bug can cost you more dps than it's worth.

The bug is not a secret to 7 million overalls, it can mostly just help you get AR back through periods of forced downtime. You can also use it prekey to try to spam RTB for a natural 5 roll.

/cast Slice and Dice```

[junior coral]

ughhh lol

[indigo token]

thats so lame

[timid portal]

!def

[ornate heath]

Rogue Defensive Spreadsheet: > Click to open <

[eternal ore]

Kyveza ?? disappearing at 5% out of nowthere from a casual vanish, wtf

[worldly shale]

imagine not doing her week 1

couldnt be me

[eternal ore]

[agile notch]

hey guys is there someone who review logs?

[mighty pivot]

use !log and someone might help

no reddit thread is safe

[vague cape]

i swear it'd just be fury 2.0 then

[indigo token]

combat rogue

what did that play like

[vivid vessel]

you know current outlwa

when ytou drop adr

and have nothing

no ps procs

thats combat

[hasty warren]

dimensius is so ass to play

[vivid vessel]

agreed

real shit boss

one of the worse boss blizzard has made

in a long time

im having 0 fun playing it as a melee

i think they play tested the boss with 20 ranges

18 ranges 2 tanks sorry

[mighty pivot]

ranged tank leaked

[gaunt phoenix]

filtered word

[indigo token]

[cinder relic]

Combat was just builder spender, with no procs

You used to have a buff called insight that cycled through 3 stages and you would line up killing Spree with deep insight

Other than that it was spam SS and evis

And maintain ghostly strike

[indigo token]

that sounds awful

[vivid vessel]

[quaint wharf]

[indigo token]

[eternal ore]

[drowsy ridge]

There was also DoT Snapshotting and using Rupture sometimes, but it was a very minimal gain if done right, but a big loss if you messed it up

[daring oxide]

@vivid vessel

as outlaw on nexus king

what do i play

[mighty pivot]

pc

[daring oxide]

hm.....

[mighty pivot]

(don't)

[vivid vessel]

?

[daring oxide]

i dont have netherprism for sub yet

but if u were to play outlaw

what talents

[mighty pivot]

you FB that fight

[daring oxide]

ye

but FB PC?

[mighty pivot]

no

[vivid vessel]

fb full st

[hasty warren]

Am I a fool prog as ol on dim ?

[indigo token]

i miss ffxiv

this shit doesnt happen in ff

you can play any class and it'll work fine

cant wait for the next raid tier

[frail veldt]

I mean you can in wow too

[indigo token]

eh

there's so much disparity in wow

[sudden fulcrum]

probably because ff is a "game" where you watch movies

of course nothing matters

[quiet root]

same in wow if you're anywhere below the top few % of players

[agile notch]

!log

[random void]

which sigil is best to put in crafted weapon?

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel

banger stream inc

[viscid forge]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[willow portal]

:(

[daring oxide]

what if

we had a new talent

that gives us a buff which makes our next rtb 5 natty when entering stealth?

[fathom bramble]

Loadeder dice

[frank bane]

#bringbackdreadblades

[vivid vessel]

then we are perma 5 buff

[fathom bramble]

dealing damage to a boss that is below 40% life causes your next cast of Roll the Bones to grant all 6 buffs for 77 seconds.

this effect may occur once per enemy

[vivid vessel]

[hasty warren]

second charge on AR I based

[mighty pivot]

what if it gave 77 buffs for 6 seconds instead

77 buried treasures

[tidal sequoia]

@vivid vessel they made transmog for you

baguette daggers

[hollow temple]

guys is it bad if i get above 23% haste?

for some reason sim says to put on a ring which would bring me to 25%

[fathom bramble]

that's somewhat odd, but if your gear choices are very bad it could happen

generally you don't want that much haste

[ocean lodge]

Anyone else experience the rolls for the RTB weakaura just no longer having text?

I don't really need it, but I do think it's weird that it just stopped showing, and won't show on redownloads ._.

[gentle wind]

@vivid vessel this will be your weapon

[vivid vessel]

[willow portal]

Am i inting progress for my guild because i chose to play outlaw?

[frail veldt]

is it a dagger or a sword?

[willow portal]

(we are on araz)

[frail veldt]

it looks like it might be a dagger

or a wand

[magic shuttle]

if you can play sub I'd say you're missing out on a fight where everything aligns for the spec and you can carry phases

on araz specifically

[craggy barn]

if ur guild is letting u play what u want then u arent inting

[fathom bramble]

Araz is one of the fights that outlaw is acceptable on

you won't carry but you aren't inting

[craggy barn]

inting would be playing fatebound

[fathom bramble]

true

[craggy barn]

liike thats actual trolling on that fight

0 damage to boss 0 damage to adds

[indigo token]

BUT

coins

🪙

[craggy barn]

butt coins

they come out ur ass

[indigo token]

https://tenor.com/view/poro-poroagony-necroniks-gragas-sloppywalrus-gif-14002357396033739071

MY ASS

[frail veldt]

then when you get a lucky coin

you shove it back up your ass

[lucid sandal]

You took my rank 1 on soul hunter nm...

[indigo token]

my asshole is gonna be so lose when i play fatebound

just coins goin in and out

[stuck patrol]

What the fuck am I looking at

[indigo token]

its poro agony

you never seen it before?

[hollow temple]

is 30% haste ass on KiR ?

[stuck patrol]

I haven't LMAO

[fathom bramble]

all the kill times in that clear were just ridiculous

just doing 1 quick meme normal for our mage that needed 1 trinket

[lucid sandal]

I can't have shit man

[craggy barn]

probably, big sim time

[full rain]

ok after running a key with sinister strike instead of ambush

i gotta admit

its way better

[wintry solar]

what about it makes it better to you?

[full rain]

ambush should not be in rotation for kir 😄

today i learned

[wintry solar]

@cinder haven has kir with audacity been toyed with?

[vivid vessel]

i sincerely disagree with that

there is no way youi think that or

like the difference between sub and outlaw on this boss

is prolly one of the craziest

[fathom bramble]

damage to bosses on a fight where boss damage doesn't matter is a thing sure

[inland acorn]

The only thing so far i found on forge is

[vivid vessel]

meh

idk about that

[fathom bramble]

it might matter to some extent

[cinder haven]

I don't see the point unless you also play HO?

[vivid vessel]

you kill boss faster

[fathom bramble]

but if boss damage is actually preventing a kill on prog then idk

[inland acorn]

That i'm helping in intermission with pylon

[vivid vessel]

idk

[inland acorn]

When my other sub rogue is holding cds for amp

[vivid vessel]

in that case your damage never matters then

[fathom bramble]

kill adds fight ends

maybe I'm wrong in the context of a lower progression guild

but I really think our low boss damage just doesn't matter

[wintry solar]

youre right. Sorry about the ping

[vivid vessel]

idk

[wintry solar]

I was just thinking but the extra CP from an ambush isnt worth all the cons it comes with

[inland acorn]

Popo trying to cook another cursed build

[wintry solar]

nooo

[vivid vessel]

like you arent doing much mroe add damage

[wintry solar]

Im not, I was just asking

[vivid vessel]

one thing i will give you tho @fathom bramble

[wintry solar]

I've no intention on trying it

[vivid vessel]

you do more addamge on pillons

cause sub kinda does 0 on pillons

i send a dance then go afk basically

[fathom bramble]

add control and pylons are the only 2 things we wiped to so

I'll take it

[vivid vessel]

but you also cant stop dps

[fathom bramble]

just hook to the high pylon if you ever might need to stop

[vivid vessel]

me when my raid leader ask me to stop dps on my pylon but im on outlaw

gg

ye sure

[fathom bramble]

but my pylon was always the slow one for some reason so

whatever

[sly kraken]

how good are the soul hunter boots? are they giga BIS like even the champion track ones?

[vivid vessel]

ye

no

idk

sim

[fathom bramble]

ye

[sly kraken]

they are so ahrd to get

[vivid vessel]

the proc scale with difficuly

not ilvl

[fathom bramble]

unless they make you lose too much haste

champ ones are insanely good still

[vivid vessel]

so a champion one will be significanlyy worse than a hc for example

even tho they can be the same ivll

[inland acorn]

that's easy

[sly kraken]

i hear u

[inland acorn]

be in pylon group that does 0 dam

you'll be always behind

[vivid vessel]

im watching a video about

[sly kraken]

so if i see them in vault its a must get?

[vivid vessel]

latex mattresses rn

it looked confy so i clicked

[fathom bramble]

not necessarily

they are probably the most commonly dropped item in the raid

[digital linden]

latex mattresses is cursed

[vivid vessel]

wtf really

[fathom bramble]

so they are easier to get outside the vault then like a loomithar trinket

[vivid vessel]

it looks crazy

i want one

[stuck magnet]

Anyone do Kyveza yet? Any tips?

[cinder haven]

dw, don't let anyone stop you from cooking

[vivid vessel]

turn off anti allizing @stuck magnet

[wintry solar]

[fathom bramble]

run elusiveness and use evasion on every aoe phase

[sly kraken]

im wondering if i was dumb to take a myth tier piece over hero soul hunter boots

whats done is done

[stuck magnet]

What do you mean by AOE phase? Like the rifts?

[fathom bramble]

I think that's within reason

[fathom bramble]

yes

[fallow hinge]

hey, no antilizing

[fallow hinge]

it's a mechanic check more than a dps check. Don't try and optimise damage until you're super comfortable with each mechanic

and defensives for the rift phase, that's the only bit that really hurts if Brann drops potions at bad times

[desert tendon]

Liz

[fallow hinge]

Censi

[zinc briar]

64 parse in the 1st boss reclearing

0 rolls, 0 btw points, 0 crits

qmwieqwmeoqwemqweimqwoiemqowem uninstall outlaw

other trys 99, (4-4,2M) bad rolls, bad crits 3.7M damge gg

[proven ocean]

zacaczcszcaczca

czc

azc

azca

zcz

!!

[zinc briar]

destroying the fucking button of sinister

[zinc briar]

buff!!!!????

outlaw?

why that hype

[proven ocean]

zac

u will play legion remix

no cappy

or

?

kinda sick

[indigo token]

i wanna play for the mog

but thats it

[proven ocean]

sup cat guy

[vivid vessel]

im playing legion remix only if they bring back mage tower

for the tmogs

otherwise no never

[indigo token]

thats not huh

that's xuh

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01HCQEJKS00002DEFPPVJX99PY/2x.gif

[proven ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451631560827994112/1350902980614033428/ride.gif

[indigo token]

thats boink

https://tenor.com/view/wideboink-cat-boink-cat-boink-gif-4293569947606972768

[proven ocean]

fake

its riding a horse

[gaunt phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/shane-boyle-299-birch-drive-rostock-racing-deer-club-oddkast-chocolate-gif-7604806897369123722

[proven ocean]

3/10 gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451631560827994112/1350902980614033428/ride.gif

10/10

[high parrot]

is there any real difference between using afrenar wa pack or devlin?

[gaunt phoenix]

Wtf

[proven ocean]

WTF

MRBEAST ALREADY RAISED 39M

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

ALMOST 40M

in 12 minutes

actually crazy

[torpid fiber]

I've decided that I really enjoy playing with Netherprism. Might be my favourite outlaw trinket in a while tbh.

[desert tendon]

lizliz

[worldly shale]

that was me

np

[tender wedge]

Is it because you finally get a real cooldown lol

[torpid fiber]

Kinda, but also bc it's super flexible

[tender wedge]

Yeah the flexibility is nice

Imagine if it dropped

[torpid fiber]

like it's a real cd but also it doesn't feel awkward to just send it at low stacks sometimes

[tender wedge]

A single time

In 3 weeks of full clears on 3 difficulties

[torpid fiber]

I got a champ track one from a weekly and I don't have any better trinkets rn so I've been having fun

[tender wedge]

That would be crazy

[red zinc]

Almost like hes been going for a month already

still stupid amounts of money though

but he probably started stream at like 30 something

[vapid sundial]

I could buy atleast two big Mac meals with that

maybe Three

[stuck magnet]

Thank you! This helped so much!

[fading pilot]

Random question. is there a reason why sometimes my pistol shot goes off but doesnt hit anything? Is this a matter of me using it maybe at max range or during an action so it fake fires? Im just questing on my rogue and Ive noticed if I use it during hookshot sometimes I get the sound but no damage. And othertimes I think at like max range it just fizzles. But Im not sure.

[gaunt phoenix]

it happens if you lose line of sight

otherwise idk

[fading pilot]

...That makes sense. We know random pebbles break shit. Prob pebbles while Im shooting or somethng. Thanks.

Didnt even think of that

[daring oxide]

Have you guys seen this addon:

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/aurafix

Apparently does a similar fix to the new elvui dev build to those who uses default blizz ui too

[late swallow]

holy shit is this real?

[ripe ibex]

what is the new elvui dev build

[late swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/124169701881282560/1403060358054412520/catboing.gif

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[proven ocean]

catterpillar

[frail veldt]

theres a pretty high chance hes already spoken with a lot of the donors prior to the event

its not like all 40 mil were just people happening to stumble upon that in the moment haha

[proven ocean]

nah

he just had it up for a while it seems

and streamed last 200k or someshit

[gaunt phoenix]

it seems on dimensius

if you /cancelaura stealth right before using the portal

the opening macro will still give you 6 coins when you get to the boss

otherwise the portal itself breaking stealth doesnt seem to do it

@fathom bramble if you are outlaw on dimmy

[fathom bramble]

good tech

I'll be likely sending outlaw on dimmy to start with at least

but I'm preping sub for it too unfortunately

[gaunt phoenix]

rip

[fathom bramble]

still kind of holding out hope that they buff outlaw before I get to dim

trickster getting nerfed into the ground by KS rework is so sad since trickster/ho could have been actually good on dim

or at least not completely terrible like fatebound/kir

[pearl topaz]

do you mean nerfed into the ground ST wise

[mild vigil]

On dim is there a way to macro the cancel aura into the extra ability?

[gaunt phoenix]

idk

my extra button is V so i just did shift v

and then shift v v

[mild vigil]

Feels subterfuge

[quaint mauve]

im playing outve my mind today

[eager sundial]

Are the rtb rules saying roll on cd at 0-1 buffs and no loaded dice and on cd at 2 buffs if you have loaded dice or more nuance than that?

[gaunt phoenix]

there is more nuance to KIR

!rtb

[ornate heath]

How to use RTB
(Assuming season 3 tier and Supercharger)

• Roll if you have 0 or 1 buffs.
• Roll if you have 2 buffs and Loaded Dice is active.
• Roll once asap after pressing KIR, as your buffs don't get rolled away. Use this weakaura to see when your buffs don't get rolled away (yellow border).
• After the KIR roll, continue to watch the weakaura as buffs tick down. As your buffs expire you may hit a point where your remaining buffs are yellow and you can roll again.

[eager sundial]

I just mean I remember something from a different season where we tried to maximize loaded dice or something or is it just a send it sort of thing

[gaunt phoenix]

with supercharger it seems there is not a rule to try to wait for loaded dice

[eager sundial]

I've also been fishing holding KIR to fish for 5-6 buffs if a 4 buff is rolled, it says its cool to do that if you roll a 5 buff and are fishing for a 6th i assume that idea extends to rolling a 4 buff?

[torpid fiber]

you can't raw roll 4

[gaunt phoenix]

as long as you dont lose the 4th buff it's fine to use kir at the last second

[eager sundial]

Was that a s2 tierset thing or just daydreaming? Swear ive rolled 4

[torpid fiber]

1, 2, or 5

s3 df you could kinda roll 3 iirc

[gaunt phoenix]

No it was never a thing to literally roll 4 buffs but i didnt think that's what you meant anyway

[eager sundial]

Lmao, well that makes more sense, I'm cooked

[buoyant cosmos]

Do you guys think vanishing the interrogate on the first boss of streets is rat behavior? I'd already cloaked one.

[torpid fiber]

It's so fucked up that you can't evasion it tbh

[buoyant cosmos]

I got meleed by the boss after doing it

Tank got mad

[main vine]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[frail veldt]

doesnt it swap to another player if you do this

[gaunt phoenix]

yes hence the question

is it rat behavior

(yes)

[frail veldt]

lolol

ive done it once

then the mage invised it back to me

then I almost died

cuz I was standing right there

rat for a rat

[gaunt phoenix]

i've passed the big momma thing to other people and gotten flamed

[frail veldt]

oh cmon

that one is like eh

I like to vanish the ghost on 2nd boss halls hahahaha

[buoyant cosmos]

They both had immunes ready (still cope IG)

[quaint mauve]

i hit my personal best for adr uptime

97% in halls

[frail veldt]

huge honestly

[quaint mauve]

no affix

[frail veldt]

what was your overall

[quaint mauve]

it kinda sucked

[frail veldt]

lol what

[quaint mauve]

7.1

idk if it was bc of how tank pulled

[frail veldt]

but 97% overall at least

[quaint mauve]

or something

[frail veldt]

yeah maybe tank gave you lots of restealths

[quaint mauve]

i’ll take it

[buoyant cosmos]

Sin rogues punching the air rn

[frail veldt]

in all my groups lately I just accept that I dont get a resetealth

its fine

[quaint mauve]

98% soon

[quaint mauve]

i only bitch about it if like

[buoyant cosmos]

I'd rather they just chain pull if we aren't going to get a re

[quaint mauve]

its my only way to not drop adr

[calm gorge]

Hey everyone, quick question.. Outlaw difficulty 1-10 compared to Paladin 😬 I've been slamming paladin every season this xpac and getting 3k io but this season seemed too quick and I'm looking to play something new. My Rogue looks appealing and outlaw seems fun. I'm not a fan of dot management with Assassination so what do you guys think?

[quaint mauve]

bro i played with a genuine like

moron today

it’s crazy to say

[buoyant cosmos]

It's extremely fast paced

[quaint mauve]

not only were we chainpulling mobs at like 10%

we went up left on priory

[buoyant cosmos]

But hasn't changed much if you've played it in TWW,

[quaint mauve]

and the pathing pack was too far

he still pulled it with the casters

and we had no dk

healer at 2 synced shots and died

and we lost

and he blamed us

they had a sniper firing squad across the world

and it’s on us

had to vent rq mb

[buoyant cosmos]

Today has been blame the party day

[quaint mauve]

priory feels so hard rn idk why

[buoyant cosmos]

What level are you trying?

[quaint mauve]

14

and i can’t seem to tell if my kick macro is working still

idk how to make plater tell me

if im the one getting the kicks

[buoyant cosmos]

I feel like there's a bigger than normal step between 13 and 14 in priory

[quaint mauve]

13 was a breeze

now it’s like everything actually hurts

how tf r people doing 18s man

[buoyant cosmos]

That's what I noticed.

No overlap stops and everyone using personals lol

[quaint mauve]

lowkey i need to pug mythic raid once im back home

i wonder if i get some decent parses first 2-4 bosses

i’d get more looks in my guild application journey

i need mythic void hunter boots