outlaw

[vivid vessel]

pog

• its server side

[frail veldt]

Oh neato

[cinder relic]

No because they aren't in the spec tree

[vivid vessel]

so less lag potentially AND it will be the same damage for everyone

[tepid skiff]

whast the bit w this btw

[buoyant cosmos]

Is them hiring the devs part time to just write the add-ons they're bootlegging the right move here?

[cinder relic]

It's 3 class, 3 hero, 4 apex

[tepid skiff]

do u have to use this and was are banned

[frail veldt]

Oh I thought it was

[tepid skiff]

or is it just optional

[cinder relic]

Apex and hero aren't points to spend

[glass mortar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1033053449891364924/1080623701957017620/AgnisKokFireplace.gif

[frail veldt]

I thought apex is part of spec tree

[vivid vessel]

addons will slowly lose fonctionallity, we dont know how much, or how soon tho

but ye

[tepid skiff]

back to default

[vivid vessel]

the end goal is prolly that addons are just skins only for combat things

[buoyant cosmos]

Huge if true

[vivid vessel]

and you play basically full default

[frail veldt]

I'm fine with that for the most part as long as I can customize it

[tepid skiff]

how it shoulda been

[vivid vessel]

i think the ideal would be that addons can customize these things easely

[frail veldt]

I don't like scripted weak auras unless they're fixing some bullshit like trickster UB tracking

[tepid skiff]

no fkin weakauras in league showing a flash icon over the enemy nameplate

[frail veldt]

Yeye

[tepid skiff]

fair is fair

[white marten]

link ?

[red zinc]

they did have that for a while tbf

[vivid vessel]

I cant

the video is private for some reason

dont ask why

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u8ZuKrfvBE

[red zinc]

grey area if it was legal for a bit

[vivid vessel]

unless its unprivated

[buoyant cosmos]

I saw a video of the bug boss in mythic palace , having the number and the person's name for the next kick over the worm was crazy

[white marten]

still private

lame

[vivid vessel]

ye

idk

i managed to click on it before

so its loaded for me

gg

get owned

[buoyant cosmos]

Someone re-uploaded ig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2fVkI-nGeo

[vivid vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvFY5Jq3VuU

oh here

they reuploaded it

10min ago

@frail veldt

litteraly details

[cinder relic]

It is but apex talents are like hero talents

There's no choice u just get them

[buoyant cosmos]

Do you think they'll have a import profiles option?

[red zinc]

I hope it has same functionality as details though

[vivid vessel]

thats edit mode

so ye

[red zinc]

Buff uptime etc

death recaps

[buoyant cosmos]

Ah okay cool

[vivid vessel]

i mean prolly

[red zinc]

i dont think so

[vivid vessel]

i hope if you click on it you have more info

than just the bar

[red zinc]

They said “damage, healing and the rest is tbd”

[late swallow]

Kir + vigor got my mouth watering ngl

[red zinc]

Itll probably be a few updates before it has the same stuff details has

Or at least most of it

[buoyant cosmos]

Just hire the details dev(s)

Imo

Part time

[vivid vessel]

im actually so hyped about the mog thing kekw

[lime plank]

Is Fatebound viable in M+?

[vivid vessel]

eh

its way less aoe

and the priority damage is simlar

[gaunt phoenix]

i think so but not in competitive keys

[buoyant cosmos]

Solo wondered about it in streets

[vivid vessel]

the only advantage you have is pure single target

but i do mean pure single target

without added mobs around

[buoyant cosmos]

It would be a shame if your coin damage splashed

[vivid vessel]

i think there is potential in streets

maybe dawn ?

idk

its a shit decision to make ngl

both these dungeon are so back to keep up coin aswell

oh well idk

[red zinc]

is streets not one of the easiest dungeons now

or is that a cooked take

[vivid vessel]

timer is very lenient

[red zinc]

feels like they overnerfed it

[buoyant cosmos]

Now?

Instead of not

[red zinc]

i mean it was already fine

[buoyant cosmos]

Oh is streets

Yeah it's pretty free for normal people now

[red zinc]

but they added like 3min to timer and another minute by removing the harder pack on that oasis boss

feels like a bit of a meme to me

[buoyant cosmos]

Nerfing the mini to stop pugs yelling at each other trying to do the skip

[red zinc]

that too

think it was 37 pre change

went to 32

[cinder relic]

What do u guys think the apex talents for outlaw will be

Is it gonna be killing Spree or roll the bones

[red zinc]

you mean that it influences those abilites?

[cinder relic]

Yeh

[red zinc]

honestly wouldnt be shocked if we get something completely passive

[cinder relic]

Cuz apex talents are around 1 ability

[worthy elm]

SnD

[buoyant cosmos]

I think 3/4 are passive

[red zinc]

cannonball rains during KS or something

[buoyant cosmos]

And the last one changes abilities

[late swallow]

KS for sure

Especially since they reworked it recently

[worthy elm]

KS or BtE

[misty bridge]

How many apex talents are coming? like options of abilities they revolve around?

[red zinc]

feel like ks would be dumb because fatebound has nothing to do with it

[red zinc]

1

[cinder relic]

4 talents in total

Er

3 talents, 4 points

[late swallow]

Ah good point

[cinder relic]

1/2/1

[late swallow]

Blade Rush

[red zinc]

all influences the same thing though

[lime lake]

kinda

[cinder relic]

FB plays ks tho

[red zinc]

it plays it

[misty bridge]

I think its gonna be something gun related

[red zinc]

but making ks do a shitton more damage by whatever they add to it

[lime lake]

these are the examples they gave

[red zinc]

just favors trickster turbo hard

feel like it wouldnt be a logical choice

[misty bridge]

we got so many gun talents/abilities now, just feels like thats the direction they're headed

[red zinc]

what if they just make the apex talent rtb adjacent

and make every node one of the tier sets we keep asking for to return

[tepid skiff]

this spec needs mfd sniping back

(im just saying shit no idea if it even plays mfd or not)

but those were the days

[red zinc]

I honestly read so many ideas

they just gotta try something new and then listen to feedback on it

we're too far cooked at this point

feels like an endless cycle

[tight kernel]

Yo Timmy is dimmy dying today

[red zinc]

nah i am

honestly excited to do 1000 dps next xpac again

felt like SL damage numbers felt a lot more understandable than what we got going on rn

[cinder relic]

I love a good squish

[red zinc]

sad we wont see the B in details though

[cinder relic]

Idrc either way if we're doing millions of dps or hundreds but

[buoyant cosmos]

Find Guy between some thighs

The numbers don't mean anything

[red zinc]

wonder if someone has bursted 100M somewhere yet

[buoyant cosmos]

I've seen my BM friend hit like 45

In flood first pull

[red zinc]

I hit 59 or something last tier

[late swallow]

There’s that vod of psybear hitting like 75

[red zinc]

but not really much like cinderbrew this tier

(or unholy)

[buoyant cosmos]

As law?

[red zinc]

ofc not

[buoyant cosmos]

Lol

[red zinc]

unholy

[buoyant cosmos]

Unholy makes sensec

[late swallow]

59 as law

[buoyant cosmos]

Blood is life right?

[buoyant cosmos]

I couldn't believe it

[red zinc]

ye double proc during cd

[late swallow]

Fighting for our lives hitting 20

[buoyant cosmos]

Frost DK is so easy

And bursts so high

Why live

[buoyant cosmos]

Real

I'm breaking into top US 50 today

[glass mortar]

i mean its fun tho

i dont rlly get the ret and fdk hate

the specs r easy

but they made them pretty fun too

fury has always been that way to me

the core loop is so simple

but it still plays great

[buoyant cosmos]

No hate, it is fun

I love 2H oblit

Massive crits

[pure folio]

!gear

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1406175771495759952/outlaw.webp

[white marten]

I bet our apex ability will be old KS

[vivid vessel]

!def

[ornate heath]

Rogue Defensive Spreadsheet: > Click to open <

[royal ermine]

can't believe som got his own npc in a delve

[white marten]

jealous

Why can't i have a delve npc? Just a Goon named "Pedro"

[worthy thunder]

Does he have anxiety?

[white marten]

never, always relaxed and locked in

[tight kernel]

Yo how bad is it to play sub with outlaw gear

[random stirrup]

I watched destro hit 100M (with aug) first pull cinder last tier

[red zinc]

oh damn

didnt see that clip

[random stirrup]

drop haste for mastery and you’re good to go

get an on use too (ideally prism)

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/wideboink-cat-boink-cat-boink-gif-4293569947606972768

[worthy thunder]

I’m excited for this

[gaunt phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451631560827994112/1350902980614033428/ride.gif

[proven ocean]

[gaunt phoenix]

maybe it's not that funny

[proven ocean]

Gif of the century

[gaunt phoenix]

[proven ocean]

[vivid vessel]

[cinder relic]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[proven ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451631560827994112/1350902980614033428/ride.gif

[delicate saffron]

also wanna try that

tell me how it goes

[gaunt phoenix]

you prolly just need different jewelry

[delicate saffron]

im already at awful base crafted 675 jewel

[gaunt phoenix]

not sure you should hop onto sub with 13000 haste

[red zinc]

you need this

beautiful

[vivid vessel]

5.5% @proven ocean

from echo

[proven ocean]

YE

I SAW

I PINGED U IN MY GUILD DISCOORD

[delicate saffron]

yea sub doesnt seem to want any haste at all

[proven ocean]

CUZ OF HOW HYPED I WAS

I WAS LIKE

WHERE IS THAT FUCKING ZAC AT

[red zinc]

ye ok might be killable actually

[vivid vessel]

hha

[tight kernel]

Might be killable but now Echo has to stay up

[fossil pagoda]

how much more % in aoe does the new 4p compared to the old 4p ?

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvFY5Jq3VuU

now live

[vivid vessel]

ye i know

[proven ocean]

[vivid vessel]

check the ui changes at the end

very good

nameplates + details + dbm

alreayd looking quite good if you ask me

im optimistic about that

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel u think max is stressed?

?

[vivid vessel]

hm

i think both guild can kill at any moment

so its hype

but im raiding ..

[proven ocean]

ye

i mean

its more leaned into echo atm

but ye

[analog mulch]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
• Just before key placement use AR into :ks: KS to get Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
• :ks: KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
• During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open onto the pack with AR into BtE.

[proven ocean]

any can kill

like

any any

[vivid vessel]

ye idk

[proven ocean]

btw

zac

didnt u notice

[vivid vessel]

what

[proven ocean]

gingi is the best mage in rwf this race imo

or?

[vivid vessel]

no idea

[proven ocean]

he's playing rly good i think

[vivid vessel]

how owuld i know

[proven ocean]

not sure but ye

he looks to be playing very very well

like

way better than last tier

[limpid onyx]

We stan perfecto here

[proven ocean]

idk i dont watch perfecto atm

im only watching gingi pov

sub is ez to play so theres nothing for me to watch

[still matrix]

Perfecto not outlaw main kekw

[spark patio]

is this how it's supposed to look like? 😂

[grave rose]

anyone notice the outlaw rogue is using daggers?

[buoyant cosmos]

Has anyone else had problems hooking out of the suck during the last Ara boss in the last few days?

[spark patio]

just got this one like 5 mins ago

[buoyant cosmos]

It's super annoying

[spark patio]

I think I hooked over two pools and my blob spawned on 1st pool

[buoyant cosmos]

Oh I'm just getting stopped mid hood

hook

I go out with like 1 second left and it stops me mid air

when it ramps up the pull

[proven ocean]

echo 5% wipe

u guys think liquid will praticipate in race to world second next tier??

@late swallow thoughts?

[worthy elm]

Wait in this panel was that "Outlaw" rogue using double daggers?

[grave rose]

thats exactly what it looked like

[proven ocean]

video?

[white marten]

Outlaw rework confirmed

[worthy elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvFY5Jq3VuU&ab_channel=WorldofWarcraft

[white marten]

Rogue 4th spec confirmed??

[proven ocean]

ah

ye

he is definitely using daggers

hes casting dispatch

normally

so ye

we're gg boys

[worthy elm]

interesting

[vivid vessel]

you see him casting dispatch?

[white marten]

I think its an assa rogue using pistol shot, actually.

[grave rose]

and RTB

and BF

[proven ocean]

is this not dispatch or idk?

[worthy elm]

and rtb

[vivid vessel]

hm

idk

[white marten]

Thats mutilate bud

[vivid vessel]

most likely its the new transmog system

[proven ocean]

nah

mutilate is double dagger hit

not 1

[vivid vessel]

ye

its like

a x

with daggers

[proven ocean]

ye

its 100% outlaw

might be new spells zac

[white marten]

Oh, it looked like he was using both hands

[proven ocean]

or new animations

to outlaw

[white marten]

Its a rework

[proven ocean]

this is 100% intended tho

[white marten]

That looks like fan of knives

Fan of dice

[grave rose]

FAN OF DICE

lol

[white marten]

💀💀💀

[grave rose]

fucking beat me to it

[proven ocean]

him casting BF

[vivid vessel]

yeye i mean

i saw all that

[grave rose]

its certainly outlaw

[vivid vessel]

just not dispatch

i know its outlaw

[proven ocean]

thats cinister strike zac

i just checked

[white marten]

It might be outlaw

[proven ocean]

its 100% SS

and

[vivid vessel]

yes i know lol

i know its outlaw

stop

[vivid vessel]

i just didnt see a dispatch cast

[proven ocean]

and then he pistolshots

[vivid vessel]

BRO

[white marten]

Zac, its outlaw

[proven ocean]

okok

[white marten]

Why are you so dense?

[grave rose]

Totally outlaw

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean check echo boss at 10%

IN P1 GOTTEM NOOB

[proven ocean]

wtf zac

[hardy thicket]

its double SS or looks like the double SS animation from Thriple treath

[white marten]

What next? Zac saying he doesnt want swords to transmog to dagger? 🙄

[proven ocean]

u made me alttab..

[vivid vessel]

hahaha

i know

[proven ocean]

wait why do i have liquid on 2nd screen they wont win

i open echo fk it

[grave rose]

this animation is a double strike if you watch it, he swings with one than the other

[white marten]

Who won last time?

Method?

[proven ocean]

lechouid

[gritty hamlet]

so they're still using dagger outlaw

[grave rose]

Booty Bay Bandits won

[tight kernel]

Zeross you really think echo can juice out 5%

When they slept like 4 hours

[gritty hamlet]

I only accept dagger outlaw if it means sub can be swords again

[white marten]

No.

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel first time i say this but

theres potential wow's plater might be way better

lmao

like

the perfect nameplate maybe?

[hardy thicket]

That looks sick tbh

[proven ocean]

or

[white marten]

Its clean bro

[gritty hamlet]

if everyone's using the same nameplates displaying the same info, Blizzard can design better

[proven ocean]

dmg meters look cleaner than details too

[white marten]

Def gonna use that and the new details

[proven ocean]

they're cooking

ngl

thats crazy

props to blizzard

actual cooks there

[hardy thicket]

I mean didnt they just bring in the addon-makers

[white marten]

Its been a while since blizzard cooked

[gritty hamlet]

new details being server side should mean no more lag on your stupid raid mates

[white marten]

And Bigwigs too

Theyre also server side

[proven ocean]

dont think so maybe but those designs are corporate made

like

i mean

clean in a sense where it looks official

[white marten]

No more 10fps hectic add cleave phases

[gritty hamlet]

"Sorry, I have to turn down my details refresh rate, it's why I'm lagging on Ovinax."

[proven ocean]

look at the timers on the right

way cleaner than any WA

in the game

[vivid vessel]

ye of course

[hardy thicket]

yeah

otherwise it'd be a fucking flop

lol

[white marten]

Ross is going full default UI in midnight

[hardy thicket]

"hey we made our own addons but they look worse than 3rd party ones"

[white marten]

Tbh all they did was copy pasta. Soooo…

[proven ocean]

their cd manager is worse

so

nobody bbothered with it

[hardy thicket]

But ye wasnt there talks that they hired or at least have addon makers consulting

[proven ocean]

b ecause ppl have their own UIs

[hardy thicket]

or am I dreaming

[proven ocean]

thats why it matters alot

like

they wont be able to cook cd management like that

ppl want their own customizations on their spell looks

[white marten]

Give it time ross

[proven ocean]

ye

[white marten]

Let blizz cook a little longer

[proven ocean]

im sure they'll nail it

[white marten]

Theyre currently reworking outlaw too

Many things in the works

[craggy quiver]

That blizzard iui?

[white marten]

In that outlaw video, did you notice he didnt spam BTE? Crackshot removed from game, confirmed??

[proven ocean]

liquid is cooked 💀 they losing rwf no cappy

[white marten]

Yeah

[vivid vessel]

they are killing the boss rn

check it

[proven ocean]

nope

they wiping

[white marten]

Make him alt tab 🤣

[proven ocean]

no cappy

3

2

1

wipe

see

[vivid vessel]

all alive for now

[white marten]

Ggs liquid

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel ECHO KILLING IT

[vivid vessel]

boss at 55%

everyone alive

echo just started noob

i prefer wathcing liquid killing it rn

[proven ocean]

made u alt tab

noob

its ez to live for them early with full personals zac..

[tight kernel]

@proven ocean LIQUID KILLING IT

[proven ocean]

smacked got smacked

[tight kernel]

P3 20 Alive. brez available

[proven ocean]

no cappy

[vivid vessel]

they have the dps btw

you see the line

ross

[proven ocean]

washedup died...

[vivid vessel]

ok now they dead

[proven ocean]

no idea what that is

[vivid vessel]

but you see the line

its a line

[hardy thicket]

tbh

[vivid vessel]

timer vs bos shealth

[proven ocean]

oh

i see it

i mean

[hardy thicket]

Echo winning would be cooler due to all the roster swaps

[proven ocean]

echo has it too

so

it doesnt matter

[vivid vessel]

they were ahead the whole fight till they died

ye

[hardy thicket]

better story

[proven ocean]

i mean

ye

they do have the dps

but that WA is cool ye

echo has it too so np np

[red zinc]

damn

[vivid vessel]

liquid didnt lust p3 tho

i didnt see what they lusted this pull

[red zinc]

someone donating 1.5k

vrazy

[vivid vessel]

wasnt p1

[white marten]

Sum light

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean echo killing it check it

[white marten]

Dont alt tab

Its lies

[proven ocean]

stfu..

its not last phase yet..

[vivid vessel]

..

fu ..

[gritty hamlet]

I like the cd manager

the improvements coming in the next patch seem great

[proven ocean]

im only saying its bad cuz i didnt test it and i wanted to atleast doom on something

it may be good idk

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean rate second screen setup

[proven ocean]

good good no cappy

[white marten]

Can confirm the rogue wasnt using daggers

[lime lake]

thats an entirely different rogue

[tight kernel]

Method

[proven ocean]

isn't that bac

the rogue

[tight kernel]

Win is better story

[proven ocean]

?

[lime lake]

ye thats bac

[proven ocean]

method sucks

they wont win shit

[tight kernel]

It was 1st platform, they fell behind dps

[vivid vessel]

shoot

[proven ocean]

dont think method can even win the next 3 tiers

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean check liquid they killing rn

[proven ocean]

echo might wipe

p1

perfecto didnt send trinkets

gg

[white marten]

Midnight is gonna be a Method winning spree

[proven ocean]

now he

is

on raw dances

xdd

a lil microwaved rota

happens

ye

i knew it

2 deaths

cuz of it

[tight kernel]

Doesn’t die today

[white marten]

How many outlaws were in RWF?

[tight kernel]

Dies tomorrow

[lime lake]

both guilds briefly had outlaw in on soul hunters

[vivid vessel]

like 30min prog on soul hunter then sawpped back to assa

[magic shuttle]

Not sure if echo has time till tomorrow

[lime lake]

and both guilds decided against it

[white marten]

Lmfao

[tepid skiff]

-1

[civic void]

3, Daizr and Imexile on the council fight and Perfecto to farm trashs for BoEs

[proven ocean]

ur doing more than assa btw?

or

[vivid vessel]

im killing it rn tho

[white marten]

Outlaw only saw 30 mins of play

[vivid vessel]

with outlaw rogue

[vivid vessel]

ye prolly

[white marten]

Hes running PC

Thats why

[proven ocean]

i think i can gangbang it

like

more than you maybe

i think assa can do so much dps

on my random hc kill i lagged and still have a current r9

[white marten]

More than sub?

[proven ocean]

lemme check how much sub is doing

idk

but i think sin = assa

in that fight

[white marten]

Soulhunters?

[proven ocean]

ye

[white marten]

I can see it

[gaunt phoenix]

but i think sin = assa

[white marten]

Def an outlaw fight tho.

[proven ocean]

i know i can do way more

will see later

[white marten]

That fight can be mad laggy

[lime lake]

big if true

[white marten]

And araz too

[proven ocean]

idk i didnt focus on parsing yet

i prob wont on prog too

i'll see if i can full send dps or not no idea how hard the fight is

[white marten]

Run CT on soul and be r1 assa ez

[proven ocean]

well thats what u play ideally ye

[tepid skiff]

how many ppl per raid that raid for hall of fame but arent in a good guild actually focus on killing the boss vs parsing? or are willing to forgo parsing to kill the boss?

[white marten]

Is it actually? 🤣

[tepid skiff]

its gotta be less than like 5 right out of 20?

or u guys think its more

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean 3min pull

[white marten]

I thought it was just caustic spatter and ggs

[proven ocean]

idk whats that yap question james

[tepid skiff]

because i know u

[proven ocean]

not bad

[tepid skiff]

and theres no way u werent trying to parse on the first boss

[proven ocean]

mythic?

[vivid vessel]

idk

[tepid skiff]

i know u took anima powers for dps on tarragrue

every week

[vivid vessel]

i do both

im a rogue

so

they dont need me

to do anything

generally

[proven ocean]

i mean idk i wasn't that good in SL

[vivid vessel]

my job is just to do damage and not die

on like 90% of encounters

[proven ocean]

i dont really care about parsing on prog at all

[white marten]

Rogue only there for atrophic

[obtuse pagoda]

reduces i think -3% of the damage

[white marten]

3.6%

[tepid skiff]

hey props

[tepid skiff]

yaaa but i mean

idk im trying to think of an example

[cinder relic]

I never care about parsing I just show up and put the fries in the bag

[proven ocean]

like on gallywix i saved shiv for the adds on mythic and still got r1 boss dmg on like 3 kills in a row

[tepid skiff]

ok like maybe smoulderon fucking over another melee by not moving much to keep urself closer to the boss for more uptime so the other guy is kinda forded to move away to not be stacked too close to u

[cinder relic]

[tepid skiff]

that kind of behavior

or like broodtwister instead of moving u just greed and stay in melee and make other ppl move for ur fire circles

[vivid vessel]

actually they are auged @proven ocean

[proven ocean]

and 1st boss in this tier im double soaking with feint to make sure i dont add too much raid dmg to the raid so

[vivid vessel]

nah i was moving out on prog

ethical

[tepid skiff]

ya im sayin like

[proven ocean]

i mean

[tepid skiff]

i feel like 5 per 20 ppl do that

[proven ocean]

movement is easy if ur playing with good melee players

[tepid skiff]

maybe somethin like that

[white marten]

Aug huge???

[vivid vessel]

i think on smold i was a melee bitch but we were fine idk i dont remmeber

[proven ocean]

like

[vivid vessel]

i remmeber not losing uptime on smold

[proven ocean]

i dont think u can fk up anyone if ur with melee gamers

[tepid skiff]

i mean someone can definitely get fucked up

another big one was always greeding the spot behind the boss

so the other melee would have to take a spot on the front 180 degrees

and get parried

i remember that

[vivid vessel]

most ethical

[proven ocean]

fuck that tier idk why i started it midway

didnt prog shit just straight up to tindral then fyrakk

m+ was game tho

loved that season

im gonna be honest tho i prob was a big padder in s1 DF tho @tepid skiff

i stopped doing that in s2

[white marten]

Im still doing that now

[proven ocean]

i love M+ so much because we can do some cringe movements that literally everyone understands

[delicate saffron]

can pre key fuckery get spammed more than once

[proven ocean]

cuz u have the best melee players in the game

and u can just do random movements and everyone will know what ur doing

except in a raid ur just gonna wipe everyone

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel im sure u understand what i mean

oh

i actually had good logs in SL

most are private tho what the helly

[tight kernel]

Split lusting looks to be the tech

New liquid pb

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel METHOD 12%

WTF

NO WAY

WE ARE WITNESSING

THE GREATEST RACE OF ALL TIME

oh nvm thats overall hp

what the helly

[vivid vessel]

[hollow belfry]

is it normal to do low ST damage on outlaw?

[buoyant cosmos]

how low is low ig

is it always low?

[quaint mauve]

depends what you mean by low

[buoyant cosmos]

Because somethimes I blast boss damage

and it feels great

[fossil lintel]

Those are daggers right?

[quaint mauve]

yup

[buoyant cosmos]

ya

[quaint mauve]

prob a transmog thing

[buoyant cosmos]

blizz employees don't play rogue

[quaint mauve]

i don’t think we’re actually gonna stop using swords

i think u can mog 1 handers as daggers with the new mog changes

[cinder relic]

Might make it so outlaw can use daggers as well

But more likely a transmog thing

[fossil lintel]

outlaw using daggers would be awesome

[white marten]

Echo winning this race

[hollow belfry]

yeah, it has always been an issue for me. If the group is decent i end up doing around 30% less ST than specs like arcane, or even dks. It's the only reason i'm trying to learn assasination but god it's so boring

[buoyant cosmos]

I was gonna ask if anyone actually wanted that

[leaden hazel]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[buoyant cosmos]

Assa can have worse ST

esp in m+

[hollow belfry]

yeah, only talking about m+

[white marten]

Roll sub not assa lol

Assa also has horrid ST

[hollow belfry]

i noticed. Like, i know that i'm in the learning phases but St wasn't that stellar

[buoyant cosmos]

If you have new 4pc did you switch to loaded dice?

and are you playing kir or ho

[hollow belfry]

ho, coming back from last season

[compact narwhal]

I’m sure I’m doing something wrong but man OL sometimes feels so ass without broadside buff, is there any way to game it or just do rotation better?

[white marten]

Tbh pulling a ST boss by itself in m+ is cringe

[buoyant cosmos]

HO is downbad

[hollow belfry]

?

[buoyant cosmos]

welcome to 1fth

[cinder relic]

Better rotation = more buffs broadly speaking

[buoyant cosmos]

but yeah, what guy said

[hollow belfry]

ah my bad, i did read download lol

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean check liquid they are killing boss rn

[compact narwhal]

Fair fair, ty will reread and try to fix mistakes, just brutal sometimes

[buoyant cosmos]

thd is king of chill

[proven ocean]

nope

2nd screen

noob..

[buoyant cosmos]

dude is just smiling having a good time

[proven ocean]

METHOD AT 8% @vivid vessel ALT TAB NOW

[vivid vessel]

bro i dont have 3 pov

only 2

[proven ocean]

zac

echo pushed like -7% on starter

gingi no cds

i think others prob struggled the same

they wiped 9%

i think its a 2% wipe realistically btw

[late swallow]

Max will reroll full time opera singer if they lose this one

[buoyant cosmos]

zac why are you druid NA

and farming bloody tokens

[vivid vessel]

i know thats my alt

[gaunt phoenix]

no need to swear

[vivid vessel]

hopeful is piloting it rn

[buoyant cosmos]

sheeeesh

[sage kestrel]

has anybody noticed outlaw using daggers in the midnight systems demo? https://youtu.be/gvFY5Jq3VuU?si=9LAkZJW-YFQBClrX&t=636

[buoyant cosmos]

no

[tepid skiff]

good find

[delicate saffron]

anyone knows?

[proven ocean]

ye

we talked about it 1-2 hrs ago

[sage kestrel]

people actually did, don't mind me 😬

[proven ocean]

new animations i think too

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

ECHO COMS

ARE CRAZY

"I NEED REDBULLS TO CALM DOWN"

XDXDXD

naah echo comms win the vibe this tier @vivid vessel @hollow temple

no cappy

[vivid vessel]

ok but check liquid stream they are killing the boss rn @proven ocean

wait they lusted p3

@proven ocean

actually check

[proven ocean]

wait wtf

ye

i am

[vivid vessel]

dps way ahead

[proven ocean]

HOLY SHIT

YE

LMAO

[vivid vessel]

tahts the p3 lust !

holy shmokerino

[proven ocean]

yo

boss is melting

actually

melting

like

holy shit

[proven ocean]

well

they seem to be still struggling with surviving

good pull tho

[white marten]

The dam is wild

[hollow temple]

I haven’t even been watching ngl

[proven ocean]

echo has good dmg too

[hollow temple]

Just checking in every couple hours to see prog

[proven ocean]

they just have a WA that shows it

i think echo dps is better

atm

[craggy kelp]

Honestly don’t even watch race anymore until last boss

[proven ocean]

no one watches pre last boss

only last 2 bosses usually

or last 3 if the 3rd to last is very hard

[long barn]

Can someone explain the Fatebound coin stuff to me. Like are we supposed to do something to improve dps to build them? Or like what if I have a 130% boost should I send KS to take advantage of it!

[cinder relic]

It's fully passive

U ignore it

[craggy kelp]

Idk I thought SL was good race almost all fights every tier

[proven ocean]

HOLY

SHIT

ECHO PUMP

68% after collapsing stars vs liquid 73% @vivid vessel

[long barn]

Also does anyone know if the Fatebound bug is fixed or do we need to open with GS still

I saw a blue post that some bug was fixed. Or maybe that was the macro in the Pins that lets us get extra coins

[white marten]

Method coming strong

[proven ocean]

bro

fraggo

is dying every pull

legit every pull

again

lmao

legit 2-3 times

each pull

actual worst player this tier

[white marten]

Fraggo needs to get out. Put ross in!!

[proven ocean]

3 TIMES

DEAD

THIS PULL

AHAHAHAHA

[white marten]

Fraggo in echo?

[proven ocean]

ye

idk how he manages

to die this much

[white marten]

Weak link

[proven ocean]

its actually crazy

[white marten]

He might cost them the race ngl

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean check liquid they are killing rn

[proven ocean]

hes 100% the worst player

its not even close ngl

[white marten]

Of all RWF players?

[proven ocean]

idk how bad the players are in liquid/method

but hes the worst in echo

[white marten]

By far

[proven ocean]

idk but

if he gets his shit sorted

they kill

ez

no cappy

[white marten]

He wont

Watch

They lose race because of him

[proven ocean]

well

[white marten]

Watch

[proven ocean]

echo lost last race to gingi

like

it was 100% on gingi

and this tier maybe fraggo idk

maybe not as impactful as gingi's troll last tier

gingi is pumping this tier tho

way better than liquid mages imo

[hollow temple]

Method actually doing pretty well aye?

[proven ocean]

actual gamer this tier

[proven ocean]

nah

they're very well behind

[hollow temple]

Aren’t they almost tied in prog

[proven ocean]

no

they are way behind

13% vs 27% is huge diff

on last phase

[frank finch]

oh dam they did it we dagger bois now

[proven ocean]

like 1 day worth of prog behind

[hollow temple]

Oh I thought it said 14%

[proven ocean]

na

[hollow temple]

On my phone

[cinder relic]

Might be the transmog changes, or it might be that outlaw can use daggers now in MH

[proven ocean]

maybe ur looking at overall hp

[craggy kelp]

Liquid pumped dmg amp

[proven ocean]

u should check last phase hp only

overall hp is bait kinda

[hollow temple]

It just says 27% p3 or w/e idk

[proven ocean]

ye

p3 is last phase

real hp on b oss

[craggy kelp]

They’re so far ahead rn

[proven ocean]

beforehand is just intermissions and stuff

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean lockin liquid is killing rn

for real this time

p3 bl

[hollow temple]

Boss is dead already

[proven ocean]

wait what the helly

liquid killing

[vivid vessel]

nvm

2 death

[hollow temple]

Refresh stream

[compact narwhal]

for supercharger.. how does it work? if you send landed on it say 1-2 cp is it just a finisher as 5cp?

[proven ocean]

zac

its still fine

stfu

..

ig

oh

gg

tank dead

[hollow temple]

You guys ready to devour the void

[proven ocean]

wait

liquid killing

?????????????

@vivid vessel

5%

[cinder relic]

It's not like old er

[proven ocean]

wipe

[lime lake]

new pb

but no kill

gg

[cinder relic]

It's just "your next finisher is +2"

[proven ocean]

holy shit

this race is so fucking close

legit neck to neck

liquid easily has the upper hand for being fresh

[craggy kelp]

If Scott didn’t die bres for a healer

[proven ocean]

echo raided for many hrs

[hollow temple]

echo been going for 12hrs today already?

[proven ocean]

12.5 hrs

ye

[hollow temple]

yeah thats gg

gonna be hard

[cinder haven]

At least a tight race this time

[proven ocean]

liquid has a better % actually 5.3%

vs echo 5.5%

[cinder haven]

I believe that’s what they call neck and neck

[white marten]

Beak to beak

[proven ocean]

cock to cock

[white marten]

Ross to zac

[proven ocean]

????????????????????

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean tune in

liquid killing boss

[proven ocean]

u cant bait me

i have both up

now

noob

no more doing other things

big race zac

both 5%

n ocappy

watch watch

echo killing

[tepid skiff]

bold call here

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel

[tepid skiff]

no more pb

boss dies 5-0

[proven ocean]

ye

[vivid vessel]

haha

[proven ocean]

for sure'

[vivid vessel]

im progging soul hunter rn

i have no idea

[white marten]

Method gonna catch up

[vivid vessel]

[late swallow]

Where are the chinese guilds

[proven ocean]

they'll catch up on progging last 20% ye

maybe they kijll it in a day or 2

lmao

[tepid skiff]

china

[white marten]

💀

[vivid vessel]

im represneting the melee gang ross

[proven ocean]

nice zac

3m higher dps than liquid rogues

[white marten]

Destro cringe spec

[proven ocean]

💀

[late swallow]

That’s actually a really good point thanks king

[hollow temple]

[proven ocean]

what the helly happened to ehco

[proven ocean]

dude

this race is amazing

[late swallow]

NA needs this more than EU

[proven ocean]

legit best race in years

[late swallow]

Morale down abysmal

[proven ocean]

if ever even

like

watching liquid

then echo

then liquid

absolute cinema

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

pure entertainment

[vivid vessel]

i mean

im ngl

outlaw is good on the boss

i think

all the race outalws

were trolling

[proven ocean]

liquid

now

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean tune in

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel

[vivid vessel]

liquid is killing

[proven ocean]

looks like a kill

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean

[proven ocean]

actual kill

ye

no cappy

@vivid vessel

@vivid vessel

oops wrong zac

nvm right zac

[vivid vessel]

@tepid skiff tune in james

[proven ocean]

zac

[vivid vessel]

they killing the boss