outlaw

[glass mortar]

when ur top of the logs

[frail veldt]

like right now its okay

as long as they dont nerf us because were performign well in weekly m+ 12s

cuz that would be a severe overreaction

but sadly

[vapid sundial]

They will

[frail veldt]

its happened in the past

[vivid vessel]

we arent overperforming in 12s ?

[frail veldt]

which means that stat scaling has been a problem in the past

[glass mortar]

i just think its silly to act like it isnt a thing, its obviously a thing, people just overinflate its importance because modern blizz is usually decent at adjusting to it

[vivid vessel]

this season

haha

[stiff vector]

its happened many times

[frail veldt]

we are on logs though

like on average

[vivid vessel]

even in s1 outlaw was better

[frail veldt]

not when played by top 0.01% players

[late swallow]

Blizz just wants to make sure that there is a viable rogue spec for each keystone level

[frail veldt]

im just saying on average outlaw is performing at the top of the pack for current 10-12 keys

this is just what the data says

[late swallow]

outlaw for low keys and sin for higher keys

[vivid vessel]

i mean

[vapid sundial]

[vivid vessel]

sin does the same tho

what data

[cinder relic]

It's a thing in the literal sense but stat scaling isn't why specs get better or worse as time goes on

[glass mortar]

how is that possible

[vapid sundial]

It's definitely a contributing factor...

What

[glass mortar]

if outlaw gains 20% dps over a season and dragons gain 30% (silly hypothetical) how is it possible that stat scaling isnt involved at all in outlaw falling off the meter over the season

thats just too extreme for me to believe u actuallty believe

if i said it was 2% of the reason outlaw falls off would u say that could be the case?

[cinder relic]

Yeah it's like 2%

[glass mortar]

ok sure so its some small part of the reason and it does exist u just dont think its a serious issue

i largely agree with u again, i think its more then 2% but thats splitting hairs

[cinder relic]

I think it matters like 0%

It exists but it doesn't matter

Sub rogue didn't pop off on mythic because it "scaled into week 2" it can just flex its strengths in mythic more than heroic

[glass mortar]

yes theres a multitude of factors effecting these things always

[frail veldt]

just from stuff like archon.gg, its not good data but im just saying outlaw is far from performing poorly on average overall. And yes I know average overall isnt a great metric Im just saying I hope someone doesnt see it and think that were overperforming

[stiff vector]

Its almost like why a spec gets better or worse compared to early in the tier is something that is not predicated by a singular factor, and is effected by a multitude of factors....and no one is saying that stat scaling is the single, entire reason why this happens.

[cinder relic]

Other specs like dev don't get better cuz they scale better, it's cuz the kill timers are getting shorter and shorter

[glass mortar]

sub is a very extreme spec and its very easy to tell its damage profile and how its used on amp fights will swing its dps far more then its scaling over a season

as well as its kill timers

[cinder relic]

I got called a noob for saying that in the sub channel pre season

[frail veldt]

yeah stat scaling contributes

for sure

theres a lot of factors

[random stirrup]

By noobs

[frail veldt]

so its easy to cherry pick which you think are the "most" but its kinda impossible to prove

all you can say is that it is a factor

[cinder relic]

Truth nuke

[midnight widget]

dang outlaw feels bad on saladking

[glass mortar]

i mean it doesnt rlly matter mewo because scaling only matters if blizzard does math bad

[frail veldt]

shorter kill timers def favor some specs heavily

[glass mortar]

like the examples of the outlaw week 1 nerf, or s4 last expac

[cinder relic]

But everything is a factor then lol

[frail veldt]

so youre saying it matters

cuz the qualifier in your statement is true

lol

[glass mortar]

it can rarely

and when it does its blizzs fault

[frail veldt]

yes

[cinder relic]

How good your spec is in the meta and how likely you are to get loot, how good the average spec player is, how laggy the raid is lol

[glass mortar]

fixing the baseline scaling would simplify things for them

right now they are just happy to tune every spec in the game every season multiple times

[frail veldt]

Yeah I just dont like knowing that if all else is held equal, my spec will get worse and worse as the season goes on. This is the current case for outlaw since shorter kill times dont benefit it much and stat scaling doesnt favor it

[gaunt phoenix]

how many bugfixes you get mid tier

[frail veldt]

ye outlaws doing great

[vivid vessel]

is there anything else

[cinder relic]

Actually

[glass mortar]

outlaw getting worse and worse over the season definitly had more to do with kill timers then it has to do with scaling tho

guy is right there

[vivid vessel]

i mean if you think outlaw is doing great when it does that mid in low keys lol

[frail veldt]

im saying if you were to look at it incorrectly it can look like outlaw is doing better htan it will later in the season

thats my whole poiint haha

outlaw always gets worse as the season goes on

assuming no tuning to it

in part because longer/bigger packs dont benefit outlaw as much as other specs

as well as gear scaling doesnt benefit outlaw as much as other specs

so however good outlaw feels now is always higher than it will feel later in the season

[deep cedar]

hey guys is KS still higher prio over Vanish while playin fatebound?

[gaunt phoenix]

we unlocked like 15% overall halfway into S2 which probably wouldnt have happened and it was still just an above average season

[frail veldt]

tru

thats crazy to think about

and p sure at the start of S2 we looked similar to now

[gaunt phoenix]

ya

[vivid vessel]

we did

which is maybe the intended tuning for outlaw

kekw

[frail veldt]

also rotation question: If I have coup ready and KS ready and no PS. Do i send a low cp KS? or a low cp Coup? Cuz in the rules it should be KS but I feel like a low cp KS feels worse than a low cp coup

[gaunt phoenix]

should prolly build to ks

[glass mortar]

build to ks it rebuilds for u anyway

sandwiching ks is fun tho

[frail veldt]

Okay so ignore the "don't SS if coup ready" rule

[glass mortar]

when u get kspree off cd with the first coup and get to kspree > coup again

[frail veldt]

I've had it happen where I also had UB stacks in this situation

So I guess in that case I should just burn the UB stacks?

And build to KS?

[glass mortar]

sounds right

theres nothing else u can do that isnt more wasteful

[naive river]

question about M+ and cudgel. Does it sim correctly on sims? also I don't have a veteran one just advendterur one when should I replace that?

[gaunt phoenix]

it's a bit complicated i need to look at it a bit more

it does sim correctly in dslice/dsroute but there is no concept of weapon swapping

[glass mortar]

it doesnt work on PW as well it will only proc once

you never drop combat

[naive river]

you cant weapon swap in M+

[glass mortar]

u can

we did it all last season cuh

[naive river]

you can?

[glass mortar]

yea

[naive river]

i thought it locked your gear

[glass mortar]

only specific cantrips blizzard disables cant be

all gear except weapon is locked

[naive river]

gotchya

[gaunt phoenix]

i guess they let you equip a weapon if it breaks

idk the reason to allow weapon swapping

[glass mortar]

[late swallow]

Damn

[naive river]

wtf was that wall

of text

[late swallow]

Didn’t even read the whole thing

[glass mortar]

my assumption was always weapons breaking

ZAC MANAGED TO GRAB IT BEFORE IT WAS DELETED

[gaunt phoenix]

do you really need me to tell you how annoying you have become lately

[glass mortar]

fastest copypaster in the west

[keen belfry]

i wonder zac

if theres anyway we dont play pc in streets

[vivid vessel]

hm

well

[glass mortar]

i opt to simply not play streets

[late swallow]

You talking about me?

[vivid vessel]

i was thinkign in streets you maybe do fb but idk

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[vivid vessel]

like

[late swallow]

How could you say that man

[keen belfry]

fatebound was my first guess awhile ago

but idk man

[late swallow]

I barely post in here

[keen belfry]

fatebound in keys?

[vivid vessel]

but the issue is

first boss you play full add on it

[late swallow]

I know you don’t mean that

[vivid vessel]

every other boss is full st tho

so idk

[late swallow]

I hope your day gets better king

[keen belfry]

what if i do a non pc key rn

its a 15 streets

[vivid vessel]

well you are gonna do litteraly 0 aoe

cause outlaw aoe

is tuned

to pick pc

now

[keen belfry]

yeah so maybe not

it is just a sub key xd

[frail veldt]

Yeah im learning sub this season for sure

streets/dawn

sub keys

[keen belfry]

you can learn it in 5 minutes mewo

no cap

[frail veldt]

I played it last season a lil

[keen belfry]

u know it then

once u remember ur binds

[frail veldt]

yeah I just gotta get comfy on it

[keen belfry]

and learn how to not munch UB u win

[frail veldt]

and remember to press black powder in aoe

[late swallow]

Sub is super fun man

[keen belfry]

i did forget about that

[late swallow]

Really enjoyed it last season

[keen belfry]

then i started doing it

i wonder if worth to press a fan of knives as gcd before dance in aoe

for expose wakness

[stiff vector]

I spent some time on PTR just hitting dummies as sub and was like

spec feels so simple now

[frail veldt]

I think it feels good

dust sub felt awful imo

[cinder relic]

It's been simple for a long time

[late swallow]

I think above a certain target count you do

[stiff vector]

yeah I mean its moderaly fun, definitely better than dust

[cinder relic]

People overstate how complex sub is

[late swallow]

Not sure what that is this season

[frail veldt]

Sub just has a few mistakes that can cost you a LOT of dps

[cinder relic]

You learn the bullshit and it just works

[frail veldt]

that a lot of new people make

like forgetting to flag haha

for me it just plays super unintuitively

[late swallow]

Definitely is unintuitive

But once you get the rules, it’s p ez

[frail veldt]

I like how much more active it is now than the dust days

I feel like im in dance constantly

[warped pelican]

The sim link for this is broken or removed because it is old. Does anybody still have the information on how to sim the SBA? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1384517316292902972/image.png?ex=68a8693b&is=68a717bb&hm=869f9a9e79bdc33aac6044f7f3e3efe09ef74650d2eb3a7d3ab0497cf17f398f&

[radiant vessel]

anyone got that prepull command ❤️

[glass mortar]

!prepull

nope

[red zinc]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
• Just before key placement use AR into :ks: KS to get Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
• :ks: KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
• During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open onto the pack with AR into BtE.

[frail veldt]

I think youd need to find the APL and do a custom sim

[glass mortar]

[red zinc]

[glass mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/yue-alien-cat-alien-cat-twitch-emote-gif-4413005531923212597

[late swallow]

Yeah, just sucks that the filler dances between cds are kinda nothingburgers

[red zinc]

average day in gary indiana

[late swallow]

Gary indiana getting a lot of love today

[red zinc]

International gary indiana day

[late swallow]

I’m from the middle of the map, not too close to nuthin

[stiff vector]

my dad was from indiana, near gary...he got the fuck out of indiana ASAP

[late swallow]

Certainly not for the faint of heart

Gotta get some chicken at harold’s otw to Chicago

While blasting pinata

[frail veldt]

I got to muncie every year

indiana is...interesting lol

[gaunt phoenix]

ran this again for funsies

[frail veldt]

HOLY

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[hasty warren]

pog

[gaunt phoenix]

Assuming you vanish and AR and kir

[frail veldt]

oh wow

thats assuming were even using cds

thats honestly insane

yeah sorry folks I think were getting a rework

[random stirrup]

I find the suggestion of one button enjoyers using ar vanish and kir manually amusing

[gaunt phoenix]

relative math is fun

[frail veldt]

lol

[gaunt phoenix]

it's easy to run now

// /simc goes here

profileset."use_blizzard_action_list"+=use_blizzard_action_list=1
profileset."one_button_mode"=use_blizzard_action_list=1
profileset."one_button_mode"+=one_button_mode=1```

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/freddie-gibbs-freddie-gibbs-thumbs-up-happy-gif-17458072014914457059

[sterile bough]

is using hekili optimal for m+?

[covert kestrel]

Optimal and hekili will never be in the same sentence

[gaunt phoenix]

Wdym optimal

it's a helper, it will never be optimal

[sterile bough]

🙁 im struggeling and just using it blindly to learn combo

[tender wedge]

I think it has an aoe function these days but mythic plus is far too fluid for that to work well

That said your aoe is often just your ST with flurry so idk maybe

[daring cave]

Just go read Wowhead or watch a youtube vid on Outlaw. No rotation helper will make you good on any class ever.

[gaunt phoenix]

the logic should be fairly sound

it tries to copy what simc is doing after all

but of course there will be "robotic" decisions like pressing AR right before dawnbreaker flight

[covert kestrel]

Also hekili doesn't know situationally what is happening, if you're about to finish a pack, a big pull is coming, etc. It just sends everything now

[tropic zephyr]

!opener

[frail veldt]

how can you run it without adr/vanish etc

[sterile bough]

i find myself looking at the bar more than on the middle of the screen. I have the Roll the Bones WA and its helping immensly

[dawn talon]

PLEASE NERF PC SO WE CAN DO REAL DAMAGE AGAIN

[gaunt phoenix]

you would have to add this apl manually https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/e7ce6b8cf58cd12f1e0d5cba5b7c13da38d93724/ActionPriorityLists/assisted_combat/rogue_outlaw.simc

but remove the last 3 lines

I mean no cooldown is like -65%

can already tell you that

You legit are vanilla rogue

[fallen eagle]

hello, can someone help me by looking at my fractillus log and telling me some of the things I'm doing wrong?

[gaunt phoenix]

I CAN TRY

caps

lock

[fallen eagle]

apart from the killing spree before ghostly strike that I know I need to fix

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hQYAtyFVwTc2gx1m?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=457

[gaunt phoenix]

first i should say at this point you are competing with people that have tier set, and you have a 678 mainhand

with old tier you use Sleight not loaded dice

[fallen eagle]

ya but rotationally wise because I still have ok stats so I feel like I should be doing a little bit more atleast

alr ty I'll fix this

[gaunt phoenix]

so the opener

[eternal kite]

!gear

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1406175771495759952/outlaw.webp

[gaunt phoenix]

you used killing spree inside stealth as you said

[fallen eagle]

like i'm 692 and I parse 40 ilvl so I doubt ppl had new 4p at this point

[gaunt phoenix]

but also you didnt use vanish until 17s into the encounter

you are capped on vanish charges, you should have your opening stealth window, then build to ks, then build to vanish immediately

[limpid onyx]

Ks builds to vanish itself even

[gaunt phoenix]

true

[slate forge]

How much damage is the ~6k agility from trinket sack of terror seems to be doing a rediculous amount https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FKdxPJM8kqwfZzjn?fight=36&type=damage-done&graphperf=1&source=27

[gaunt phoenix]

6k agility is like 4%? dps

[slate forge]

So it would have to do like 6% to be worth?

[gaunt phoenix]

it's already a good single target trinket, but ya it's not super special

[desert tendon]

unlike solo who s super special

[fossil pagoda]

should i stay with old 4p in m+ or go with 2p/2p ?

[gaunt phoenix]

use old 4

[pure folio]

@fallen eagle wrong talent

u have S2 tier, u want sleight of hand instead of loaded dice

[hardy garden]

Hey if anyone has any insight it'd be appreciated. When I run sim's with this seasons 4 set, I show a -600k dps loss in comparison to last seasons 4p. Am I doing something wrong or is that just how it is?

[fossil pagoda]

right now i got 17.92% haste is that enough for KIR =

[hardy garden]

i believe the sweet spot is 18 - 20 so youre almost there

[gaunt phoenix]

ya should get slightly more

[jolly geyser]

How are you supposed to play outlaw on dimensius,everything goes to shit

[gaunt phoenix]

Did you change talents to loaded dice

[fossil pagoda]

cant get any higher thats with flask

[hardy garden]

i did not, what would you suggest i replace?

[glass mortar]

sleight

[gaunt phoenix]

this but the other way around

[hardy garden]

roger

[pure folio]

@fallen eagle Also, that main hand weapon you're using is for M+. It doesnt work in raid, im not sure if you have something better or not though

[hardy garden]

wym?

[gaunt phoenix]

dimensius is a pretty bad outlaw fight

botched opener, forced flying, forced RP, burn phase after RP

tiny hitbox

it does kinda blow

[cinder relic]

Might be the worst outlaw fight of all time

[hardy garden]

ive noticed a much better start if you do your opener, blade flurry included before you take the portal, on a good set of rolls i start the fight around 3-4 and can maintain that for a decent amount of time

[slate forge]

Do we just vanish use ar gs macro after portal?

[gaunt phoenix]

you should have like 2 seconds of subterfuge and can just macro > rtb > bte

lame you lost 5 globals tho

[balmy topaz]

No one at blizzard plays stealth classes obv

[glass mortar]

its definitly a contender

[balmy topaz]

because no way they let this through

[glass mortar]

cant wait to do this fight as ww in altraid tho

gunna be a blast

[lucid sandal]

Yooo top 5 rogue on loomithar

[cinder relic]

I mean its fine for both sub and sin lol

[desert tendon]

5/7

[stiff vector]

still gotta see mythic dimensius but as someone who played outlaw on tindral prog...dimensius is way mroe dogshit

[desert tendon]

how can a fight be worst than tindral

as outlaw

[limpid onyx]

Forced downtime

[random stirrup]

Imagine every possible way to screw the spec over

[balmy topaz]

taking set of seeds wasn't too bad

[pure folio]

Is there any way to read combo points in logs?

[desert tendon]

you guys werent on flying orbs duty i guess

[gaunt phoenix]

there is resources tab > change hit points to combo points

shows a chart of CPs spending

it is slightly botched though - the CPs from ss double hits are not logged by blizzard, so when you finish the chart seems to jump a bunch of CPs and corrects itself

[midnight granite]

This new double coup shit is kinda mid no?

The bug was better

[pure folio]

Damn that makes reading logs so hard

[lucid sandal]

I miss having 5 buffs perma

[covert heart]

One thing I found that I really like about outlaw in keys which so far has been 14/15 range that we take like no damage 🤣. I mean we also do no damage but still

[hardy garden]

i see the issue, i wasnt giving myself more catalyst charges in the sim lol

[red zinc]

dont hate on my boy lok like that

[covert heart]

People are getting like destroyed and if I get hit by a cast like nothing happens

[fallen eagle]

this is the only weapon I have right now, I started playing outlaw two days ago

thanks for the advices

[hardy garden]

dub ty

[midnight granite]

Solo, does the ks free unseen blades get wasted or are they stored if coup is available

[gaunt phoenix]

i'm not exactly sure what you mean

stored

[glass mortar]

if u send them to build they get wasted

if u dont they dont

[midnight granite]

Press ks > proc coup

Press coup > ss > free coup

[glass mortar]

u would waste 1 blade there

[midnight granite]

Does the unseen blades proc get wasted

[glass mortar]

yes

[gaunt phoenix]

yea

[midnight granite]

Lame

[glass mortar]

yes 🙂

[gaunt phoenix]

thats why you dont SS between coups

[void dragon]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[limpid onyx]

Send coup unless you can shoot

[lucid sandal]

I like using flurry between my coup

[gaunt phoenix]

even if you didnt have KS blades, SS can proc unseen blade at any moment

[midnight granite]

So bank opp proc or bf in keys

[glass mortar]

wait are we 1 cp couping the double coup also if we would press SS

i havent actually read the 4set rules ngl

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[glass mortar]

thats stank

why didnt they just make it give u full cp refund

or fix unseen

[midnight granite]

Would you ever press pistol shot no opp?

[gaunt phoenix]

nop

[midnight granite]

Between coups i mean

[lucid sandal]

fix?

[gaunt phoenix]

still nop

[midnight granite]

So no bf no opp just waste 2nd coup

[gaunt phoenix]

it's not really a waste

it's still +5cps

the damage is still treated as 6/7cps

[midnight granite]

O

[limpid onyx]

Also how coup works by ‘adding’ cp to dispatch low cp spend is not as bad

[hardy garden]

theres not a way to auto log when i login right?

[glass mortar]

make it stack up to 7

or 6 even

[gaunt phoenix]

some addon can prolly auto log, though prolly when you enter an instance as opposed to login

[glass mortar]

idk it doesnt even need to stack up to 2 full coups for it to not be nearly this toxic

[lucid sandal]

Oh yeah that would be a lot nicer

[glass mortar]

stacking to 6 would probably reduce most of the overcapping

[midnight granite]

Stack to 6 consume 4?

You're hired

[midnight granite]

Mrt does this, lots of other add-ons aswell

[hardy garden]

cool ty

i have one last question for now (just found this disc and its beyond useful)

What do you guys use as reference point for your rotation? I feel like I'm pretty damn decent at outlaw but i have no point of reference so im always wondering what mistakes i may be making

[lucid sandal]

I wing it

[hardy garden]

trying to find videos on youtube is horrible, theres never anything good to watch other than dalaran gaming and im not touching him

[lucid sandal]

[hardy garden]

is this a disc of wingers

[limpid onyx]

Ar uptime and buff management

Aka wing it

[gaunt phoenix]

AR uptime is a good indicator of success though with fatebound 4pc you can kind of have permanent AR even when dicking around

[lucid sandal]

[gaunt phoenix]

maybe slightly exaggerated

[midnight granite]

Nah it's so free

Tierset goes nuclear

On uptime

[unique fulcrum]

do i need a specific amount of haste or is somewhere between 18% and 20% fine? ive read somwehere that u want 19,05

[hardy garden]

hitting that specific of a number is going to be a pain

18 - 20 would be good, pref on the higher side if you can swing it without taking from vers/crit

this is where i try to keep my stats, if anyone has any suggestions feel free to correct me as well

[midnight granite]

Why so low vers

Smh

[hardy garden]

thats what blizz wanted to do to me with gear drops so far

[late swallow]

what was the first class you ever played when you started wow

[craggy quiver]

Is this an addon?

[hardy garden]

yeah true stat value

[midnight granite]

I have like 40% with druid buff

[hardy garden]

how much are you losing past dr

[proven ocean]

Who are you and what do u want from me

[hardy garden]

and whats your crit?

[tropic zephyr]

realistically, astral antenna is bait or not?

[hasty warren]

I miss 50% vers builds

[tired rune]

[frail veldt]

def not

its comically overstatted

its bis for like every spec

[tropic zephyr]

rofl

[frail veldt]

and this season theres a lot of vers slanted gear

[tropic zephyr]

i got hero one, so i should just keep it

[frail veldt]

so you can easily run low on crit and make antenna very strong for you

yes 1000%

[tropic zephyr]

though it seems really cursed to play

[frail veldt]

how so

its a passive

isnt it?

[safe pasture]

ok weird question has anyone had the issue where it forces you to re stealth on its own like in dawn its pulling me off my mount and everything . dont have this issue on sin or sub its only outlaw and not sure if its some fucked wa i got or what

[glass mortar]

It spawns balls

[safe pasture]

loosing my mind

[glass mortar]

They float to u

[buoyant cosmos]

you get to play hungry hippo

[frail veldt]

aaah

hate those

damn

[buoyant cosmos]

It isn't the same as the everbloom one though

[frail veldt]

yeah

oh

[buoyant cosmos]

since it doesn't refresh the buff

[frail veldt]

so it doesnt extend

oh thats good then

can you just ignore it

[buoyant cosmos]

You just get more buffs

[frail veldt]

nice

so its pretty much a passive?

is there an advantage to picking them up early/late

[buoyant cosmos]

Yeah, some guy tested it yesterday and said you can miss them though

if you move too far away

[frail veldt]

sure makes sense

[buoyant cosmos]

having to chase something

[buoyant cosmos]

maybe for duration if two spawn at the same time but idk

run into one

I pressed greed on accident when one dropped last week 🙂 So i'll never know

[trail cape]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[midnight granite]

Idk like 22-24

[pure folio]

!gear

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1406175771495759952/outlaw.webp

[willow portal]

so if i have pistol shot with proc i use that tho right?

or bf in aoe

[limpid onyx]

Yep

[pure folio]

Depends on ur combo points @willow portal

[pearl niche]

!haste

[ornate heath]

A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The HO build gets Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[vivid vessel]

@late swallow new brann

[frail veldt]

I have no complaints

[wintry solar]

She's better

[frail veldt]

is that konaz our rogue queen?

[vivid vessel]

right

she doesnt play outlaw anymore so

[untold yarrow]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[frail veldt]

I see two daggers in that pic

[late swallow]

her armor is so cool ngl

[late swallow]

i just found a third one right here

[wintry solar]

I thought they'd hide her thighs tbh

They did that with that Vancleef lady

[late swallow]

blizz knows its audience what are you kidding

[jolly geyser]

its iconic armor for her

[acoustic epoch]

when I roll and take forever to get ruthless precision I just want to scream

[pure folio]

for M+ do we still sim dslice? or 5 target patchwork

[stiff vector]

I can fix her

[frosty quartz]

Hey guys, is there any guide lines i can find on here which goes over best crafts? I crafted a wep but trying to figure out what i should craft next

[frosty quartz]

Thank you! you are literally the best person to ever exist

[pure folio]

of course bud gl

[frosty quartz]

❤️

[lime lake]

smh didnt even update the icon to the new spark

[frosty quartz]

lol i noticed that too

[river maple]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
• Just before key placement use AR into :ks: KS to get Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
• :ks: KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
• During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open onto the pack with AR into BtE.

[quaint mauve]

why’d it get so much more confusing

[pure folio]

its the same

only difference is rtb twice before now

[craggy barn]

bot cant even

[vivid vessel]

@late swallow

fuck you noob

[late swallow]

i'll give you a chance to apologize before I get the shadows involved

[vivid vessel]

bang bang

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-luigi-mangione-mangione-reaction-meme-gif-14703308688850194741

[craggy barn]

bro

why cant i have this as my badge

[late swallow]

actually yeah fr

KS should be a RH role

[acoustic epoch]

weird question but is there like a minimum graphics / pc optimisation mini guide out there somewhere I think my PC performance is hitting my gcd usage genuinely

[craggy barn]

quazii has one

[red zinc]

WE GON BLOW NEW JERSEY UP

[craggy barn]

https://youtu.be/OFpHIAe_MS4

[acoustic epoch]

ill give it a look, thanks

[late swallow]

@gaunt phoenix thoughts on making the KS icon an RH server role?

[red zinc]

we rise

[craggy barn]

[red zinc]

[elder phoenix]

!RTB

[ornate heath]

How to use RTB
( HO build)

• Roll on cooldown until you get a 5 buff. If you have 4 total buffs including CTO, you can choose to keep them until 3, it's not an expected dps loss or gain.

( KIR build)

• Has a concept of buffs being preserved through RTB casts after pressing KIR instead of being rolled off.
• Use this weakaura to see how many buffs you "will lose" by pressing RTB (red or blue border).
• Roll if you will lose between 0-2 buffs.
• Roll if you will lose between 3-4 buffs if they are all below ~10s remaining.
• If you KIR a natural 5 buff, wait until buffs approach ~41s remaining before rolling.

The faq elaborates on these rules.

[glass mortar]

some of you guys are pretty cool

dont show up in outlaw discord tomorrow

[craggy barn]

[late swallow]

[red zinc]

[bright crane]

Gonna go see a movie tomorrow

[craggy barn]

you dropped your gun

[red zinc]

me when i see ret paladin player from gary indiana

[buoyant cosmos]

New batman?

[late swallow]

some mf at villanova university at this very moment

[red zinc]

[vivid vessel]

[late swallow]

true and real

thoughts and prayers

[red zinc]

dawg

u cant be making jokes about it as its happening

[bright crane]

Damn bro that’s topical as hell

[late swallow]

[buoyant cosmos]

You /can/

[jolly geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/747567444536852591/1408206621028388895/mirror.webp?ex=68a8e61d&is=68a7949d&hm=ecdbbba85cee3957a8156b274dd2f8d8b11dcc7d5c709d168b781b8173a56e3d&=&format=webp&width=106&height=106

3 dudes

[glass mortar]

3 dudes 1 gun

[late swallow]

[dawn talon]

this CAN'T be how i found out

[near rock]

@ancient cobalt

care to explain

[buoyant cosmos]

Goofy

[delicate saffron]

sim says i should be doing 3.4m on 1 target

how horribly am i doing my rotation that im sitting at 1.5m on dummies?
(checked for no buff settings on the sim)

[ancient cobalt]

lmfaooo

get home from the office sit my ass down and die so my team can go to sleep

#icare

[vapid blaze]

what was the verdict on canceling ks

[wintry solar]

Looks like two cultists next to an evil fucked up candle

[jolly geyser]

or that,just mirrored it with a discord bot

[delicate saffron]

anyone can help a bit?

[tired rune]

[late swallow]

[vivid vessel]

[real yew]

[craggy barn]

[frank finch]

yo zac

i seen you full casting ks this morning

[vivid vessel]

meh

like once or twice

sometimes

when i feel like it

[frank finch]

looked like u were vibing doing it tho

[glass mortar]

i do it if i have nothing else goin on

which

iykyk

hard to explain

[glass mortar]

hard to give any feedback without logs or vods of ur gameplay

certainly sounds like ur doing something wrong tho

[late swallow]

you pumped for legion remix my king?

[glass mortar]

fuckkkkkkk yes

did you see those mogs

i deleted my level 14 warlock and saved a name so im ready to blast out my last missing 80 class

and its gunna be fun af

[delicate saffron]

half damage seems more than something imo

feels like im playing the whole spec backwards lol

[late swallow]

yeah I'm super stoked for it - the mogs looks really sick

gonna be tight to get some of the dope legion mounts I never got

like the fox and shackled urzul

[glass mortar]

wtf

a vendor just spawned in my delve selling delve trinkets

and one of them even has a tertiary???

[jolly geyser]

is that haste trinket any good?

[elder phoenix]

what delve

and what level of delve

what the fuck

[glass mortar]

11

and it was the new one

[elder phoenix]

is that normal?

[jolly geyser]

he spawn in 9 and above no?

[glass mortar]

i have never seen this

so no clue

very cute tho

its an ethereal who just ports in and is like ayo wanna buy some trinkets

[frank finch]

delvers journy lvl 3

[glass mortar]

ahhhhhhhhhhhh

yea i am close to 4

[frank finch]

vendor spanws at end of t9 or above

[late swallow]

bro thought he really did something

[normal forge]

what is this?

[vivid vessel]

You need to allow pop-ups for middle-click or control-click to work on the submit button

[normal forge]

yeah

how?

[midnight granite]

You can get the fox any time

[late swallow]

i was just gonna say this

[late swallow]

ya but isn't it like a whole process

in remix you legit just roll up to a vendor and buy it

[midnight granite]

It takes like 10 minutes lol

Get the letter and do the event

Actually it might have quest prerequisites

[cedar kernel]

gm brothers

push time

[late swallow]

i was gonna call cap

but you came clean yourself

[jolly geyser]

gm bac,and bed for me

[midnight granite]

If you have access to the event it's fast

[late swallow]

i think you need to do all the suramar quests or some shit

[jolly geyser]

I did it in legion but forgor

[late swallow]

i'd honestly rather run like 3 dungeons and just buy it during remix

[ripe ibex]

@gaunt phoenix how would i make jastor diamond not ever proc in sims

cause its bugged on some fights

need to sim it not working at all

[midnight granite]

Just remove it from your character

[ripe ibex]

no

[midnight granite]

It's bad

[late swallow]

goated tag btw

solo would like that

[ripe ibex]

its not

[late swallow]

he's brat

[ripe ibex]

ik we have talked about it

hes a real one tho

[stark viper]

Yo which (if any) dungeons kind of suck to play outlaw in bc downtime or w/e?

[red zinc]

probably some ring with near identical stat distrib that you can just scale up to that ilvl

ghetto solution

But its something

[midnight granite]

None

[ripe ibex]

i mean surely there is just a string i can throw in somewhere

[vivid abyss]

can someone check his astral antenna quickly and see if the crit buff is the same as tooltip or divided by 2 ?

[untold current]

How is Netherprism performing for you guys?

[glass mortar]

streets

[daring cave]

99% of the time I forget I have it and don't activate the agility bonus

[cedar kernel]

lmao

[untold current]

I macro'd it to Vanish to try it out and wowhead suggested it. It did 4% of my dmg in a 11 Priory while having an uptime of of 56%. Seems pretty decent i feel like.

[daring cave]

That would be a good idea. Certainly better than never using it because you forgot you have it.

[untold current]

Warpclaw and Cosmic Hunt to some level feels just less.

[vivid vessel]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[midnight granite]

Bad route

[zinc briar]

is harder to get a good log if there is less ppl playing that class?

[midnight granite]

No downtime in streets

[glass mortar]

everyboss is downtime

if u do the mechanics

😠

[midnight granite]

??

Who does those

[untold current]

Claok and just tank it

[glass mortar]

how do i cloak and tank soaking puddles on mailman or orbs on menanger

[midnight granite]

Music boss is only shit fight

[glass mortar]

or carrying bombs on mailmang

[midnight granite]

Not my job

Healer s

[untold current]

Just have the other 4 people do them

and soak the closest puddle if it's in range

If it's not in range then it's irrelevant anyway

[glass mortar]

so true

[cedar kernel]

is it possible to do 10m in flood without the 3 physical buff?

[glass mortar]

if you just ignore all the mechanics and trust everyone else to do them there is no downtime in these keys

my bad guys i forgot

[midnight granite]

Now youre getting it

Evasion suck, cloak rings, save vanish for music time, dont do bombs

[lament idol]

Is there a command for the important outlaw macros? I distinctly remember one to use so we didn't have to vanish all the time...

[midnight granite]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[vague cape]

bad news bro, we manually vanish now]

like every 20 sec

[lime lake]

[untold current]

I wanna say yes, though probably need the whole dungeon to line up. I did 8.5 in a +10 but that was with a Warrior tank and an Enhance blasting. So i do feel like it's totally doable but yeah kinda hard.

[vague cape]

i reckon with 710 it should be fairly easy

maybe even lower

[vivid vessel]

fairly easy

[vague cape]

if the tank pulls enough shit for you

[cedar kernel]

i just get into a key

and the key leader asking us to join voice

[vague cape]

are you 710 mister?

[cedar kernel]

then after i said something

[untold current]

Isn't everyone?

[lime lake]

my uncle is 710

[cedar kernel]

he find out that i am outlaw

[vivid vessel]

nah im holding a lot of shit rn

[vague cape]

zac's a noob

[vivid vessel]

but still

[desert tendon]

Lol bac

I swear cn is weird

[cedar kernel]

and ask me to do 10m with 2dk and DHTank also shammy

[vague cape]

you telling me you cant hit 10 with 710?

[cedar kernel]

i said i cant

bc its not the pure phyc team

[vague cape]

ok 2dk changes things

lmao

[cedar kernel]

then he judge me a noob

[vague cape]

i thought youd have actual group buffs even if they're not bis

[cedar kernel]

then i just left

[vivid vessel]

no im telling you i barely hit 10 mil today with full phys comp and 705 ilvl

[desert tendon]

Yo what if i Come back to wow

[vivid vessel]

and im the best outlaw

so

[desert tendon]

But cn servers

[vivid vessel]

i think

[vague cape]

add 5 ilvls and it will be doable for less sweaty players

[cedar kernel]

zac the best for real

[vivid vessel]

it might be a little bit harder

than just

"easy"

you know

[desert tendon]

You just bad zac

[cedar kernel]

yea i feel ~7M in this team is my limit there

[vague cape]

remember that by the time people are 710 the entire key will be faster

[desert tendon]

I used to do 80m overall

In bfa

Loser

[pure folio]

do u have vods with trufigcd on

[vivid vessel]

well actually i wanted to upload that one run

[thin pasture]

How far behind is HO this season?

[vivid vessel]

its the first "high key" of the season really

[thin pasture]

is it dead in the water?

[vivid vessel]

let me see one sec

[pure folio]

I feel like i understand the spec really well but i only get like 8.5m 695ilvl

[cedar kernel]

i saw it

very hard

[desert tendon]

So bad zac

[lime lake]

feral pumps damn

[desert tendon]

Beaten by a cat

[vivid vessel]

outlaw is just bad

[desert tendon]

Imagine

[vague cape]

gg lost to a cat

[desert tendon]

War looks terrible

[vague cape]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-cat-dance-cute-cat-dance-ai-cat-gif-15064057413633942575

[lime lake]

cat gaming

[vivid vessel]

?

war actually really good this season

[desert tendon]

And outlaw needs war

[lime lake]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-gif-4446960541527894948

[vague cape]

ngl feral burst on mass aoe is actually insane

[desert tendon]

Gg

[vivid vessel]

compared to last

remember that it gives 5%

if you just take 5% ffrom monk me and feral

he is topping the dungeon

[desert tendon]

Isnt feral still lot of magic dam ?

[cedar kernel]

and hes 5 target capped

[desert tendon]

Or they fully back to bleeds

[cedar kernel]

idk hes a lots of bleed dmg rn

[vague cape]

nah, mainly phys and bleed

[vivid vessel]

warrior doesnt work like that

its not monk buff

[desert tendon]

Good then replace outlaw with assa

[cedar kernel]

rip

[desert tendon]

And you have a great comp

[vivid vessel]

for like 90% of mlee dps

warrior is just 5% damage

its nto monk

[vague cape]

here's a q, would sin do more

[desert tendon]

Zac

[cedar kernel]

i think outlaw this season is better than the last

[vague cape]

no idea what ur pulls were like

[desert tendon]

Who do u think

I am

Lmao

[desert tendon]

Dont sa that to zac

Only Guy would agree

[vivid vessel]

what

[desert tendon]

[vivid vessel]

its so much worse than in s2

wdym

outlaw this season is like in s1

[vague cape]

idk about power, would need like a while longer to get close to bis then judge, funwise it's deffo a downgrade for me

[vivid vessel]

you dont need anything guys

[vague cape]

I miss the old tierset / low cd ks, even if it did kill us

[vivid vessel]

we have ptr data

nothing changed from ptr

we also have live data

where its def less strong than s2

[cedar kernel]

the play style is comfortable, idk need to be scared for anytime i could die by KS, more CP effi

[vague cape]

have you just tried rolling as many 5 buffs as s2? noob can't even roll

[desert tendon]

Yea

U guys talk gameplay

Zac talks numbers

[cedar kernel]

well the dmg is medium for me bc i havent fould the dmg issue there, i always the 1st dmg maker

[solar gust]

hi all, new outlaw enjoyer here

[cedar kernel]

i havent found anyone or only a very few people can beat me

[vague cape]

ngl, personally im ok jumping ship to sin if outlaw is ever dumpstered

[desert tendon]

Hello pants welcome

[pure folio]

@vivid vessel can u lmk if u ever have a vod with trufi on :)

for m+

[vague cape]

zac is just stockholm syndrome

[vivid vessel]

one sec

uploading it

[desert tendon]

Doesnt he on his twitxh vod ?

[pure folio]

kk

[vivid vessel]

ye but i wanted to upload that one

takes 5 min

[desert tendon]

Hire me zac

I can manage your youtube stuff tyvm

Btw is jpc planning to push this season or what

[cedar kernel]

i havent try myselfs dmg limit there tbh

[vague cape]

ye

[cedar kernel]

no monk no feral can be find in pug

[desert tendon]

Goodgood

[cedar kernel]

made me feel despair

[desert tendon]

What s the cn méta currently

[cedar kernel]

Always Magic team

always

[vague cape]

all i know about cn is that outlaw is more popular there

[vivid vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puj68pik2Eg

[cedar kernel]

no

[vague cape]

server has gambling addiction gg

[desert tendon]

Still the same team

[cedar kernel]

mo is not that like

[desert tendon]

Dk mage boomie

[vague cape]

is it actually not true?

[cedar kernel]

yea

[vague cape]

I've been told there are more cn OL

than west

[vivid vessel]

it will be assa dk smth

[cedar kernel]

other spec has more discrimination to outlaw, they just said "fuck 8 target capped spec, get out of my group, i need tank to make huge pull"

[desert tendon]

Outlaw is popular from cn only in ptr

[vivid vessel]

feral/mage/shaman/boomie??

[solar gust]

Ive noticed my damage is kinda low compared to to like other rogues that play sin, is this just how it is or am i bad?

[desert tendon]

Sin and dk

[vivid vessel]

it is how it is

[vague cape]

you forgot to consider shadow

[desert tendon]

Is very mêlée heavy

[vivid vessel]

ye true

[vague cape]

high target count they crank

[vivid vessel]

shadow is a contender also

[desert tendon]

That would be handsome

But i doubt double melee

[vague cape]

and pi for whoever the main character is

[desert tendon]

Actually

Pi on assa with bleed

Is insane

No cap

[vague cape]

lmao aintnoway it's the same as eu 💀

[vivid vessel]

no one cares about double melee censi lol

[desert tendon]

They did for the Last 6 seasons

But in tott

[cedar kernel]

CN team rn is more like DHT/DK/Mage(Arcane)/Priest/Shammy

[desert tendon]

[vague cape]

memes aside, isn't eastern meta just the same as west?

[vivid vessel]

no?

it just wasnt better

[vague cape]

or does their meta diverge often

[vivid vessel]

we played double melee at the start of s1 tww actually

[desert tendon]

Somz melee had better dam

Just less synergy

[cedar kernel]

diverge bc the most top people will reroll

[desert tendon]

And tools

[cedar kernel]

tbh if i would say

[vague cape]

interesting, I always thought all regions would copy whatever top team is

[cedar kernel]

East has more outlaw player

[desert tendon]

Boomie + vdh gg you get all the aoe cc you need

[vivid vessel]

china is on raider io now tho

[desert tendon]

Work from that then

[vivid vessel]

like all the china runs

before it was onlyt runs that were uploaded

it changed this tier

or like end of last tier

[desert tendon]

Only if they upload them nah

[buoyant cosmos]

did they have to ask netease for that data? or no one cared before this last year or so

[vivid vessel]

it changed now

idk

[desert tendon]

Icic

Idk

Anyway

[vivid vessel]

i just know it changed now

and all china should be on raiderio

[desert tendon]

I m not a wow player àymore

[vivid vessel]

the ones not banned at least

[late swallow]

[cedar kernel]

bc the most outlaw player in CN rn, are not the top player, and the top player who used to play it

just rerolled

to sin

thats the problems here

[desert tendon]

They re right tho

If they wanna be the top

[cedar kernel]

and like in M+, peoples thinking 8 target is shit

[desert tendon]

At least play the Best spec of a class

It is shit

[cedar kernel]

so if u are 8 target capped, fuck off in their team

CN server is more utilitarianism

[desert tendon]

Hello i m utilitarianism

[cedar kernel]

💀

like even enjoying the game in the server is only a few people

[buoyant cosmos]

Did the taiwanese servers ever recover?

[lofty sand]

how is outlaw so bad if ur doing the same dmg as sub/assa or a bit less in dungeons? @vivid vessel if u like 500k behind as worse next to assa which is S tier then who cares

[vivid vessel]

im not

i know cause i played ptr

you guys are looking at week 1 data

which is

[cedar kernel]

wdym

[vivid vessel]

like everytime

you are just getting baited

on ptr we were max ilvl

doing 20s

so i know what to expect

and sin /sub need real comps and routes built around them

[buoyant cosmos]

I saw posts that a lot of mainland players moved to TN when netease shut down and started mass reporting players

[vivid vessel]

wehn i played with zeross we did outlaw routes

with assa

which is just bad for the assa

i dont do just a bit less than assa lol

[cedar kernel]

nah except the mainland server closed others are fake, but its recoverd rn

[vivid vessel]

they will be doing litteraly 30/40% more damage than you in hgih keys with a good comp and route

[hasty warren]

@vivid vessel do u have good songs to put on speakers with good basses ? I've to compete with friends and i'm lacking inspiration

[lofty sand]

aight bro, i didnt follow ptr im just saying rn but sure

i belive u

[cedar kernel]

well i agree this with zac

[solar gust]

do you guys think that blizzard will give us a buff ? if its that dire

[cedar kernel]

like sometimes if the tank pulls right

[glass mortar]

zac i just

i knew it was a possible result ofthe boe ring

but i just saw this on the ah

[cedar kernel]

outlaw worse than other spec

[glass mortar]

hrnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

[vivid vessel]

[glass mortar]

later in the season

[vivid vessel]

vers leech ! ! ! ! !

[glass mortar]

imagine a mythic one of these boys

[cedar kernel]

get it

[pure jetty]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[cedar kernel]

steal it from the server

[buoyant cosmos]

ok

ty for info

[vivid vessel]

idk bro i have been listening to too many bangers lately

[hasty warren]

do you have playlist I can pick some of those bangers ?

[vivid vessel]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1RYPgbLiAvl9uA3BZRhomY?si=9c23a9fe068e43f2 just order from recently added

[hasty warren]

ty bro ❤️ u're the best

[proper veldt]

Bro you were playing bangers from schrotthagen on ur stream some days ago that went so hard

Instantly added to my list

[vivid vessel]

right

idk

i discovered that artist

idk

it goes crazy

every single one of their songs

idk man

[proper veldt]

frfr I never knew them before too

[vivid vessel]

sometimes i find things man

its wild

[proper veldt]

But now I got half their stuff in my list

[vivid vessel]

i love music bro

there is something

like

my brain

is so happy

when it hears new sounds

that are cool

tingles fr fr

[buoyant cosmos]

try loran's dance by idris muhammad

[vivid vessel]

no i dont think i will

[buoyant cosmos]

oh well

[vivid vessel]

thats a diff style for sure

you know

i love a lot of music styles

like a lot a lot

but

things like jazz or blues

where nothing happens

but one guy

doing solos

on its guitar

or sax or whatever

for the whole song

i sleep fr fr

[fluid meadow]

"Detect Single Button Assistant" is this wa working? i just want to leave without penalty if we detect on keys