outlaw

[desert tendon]

Therefor priory ara db

[torpid fiber]

it's like 12% on ST but as soon as there's any other targets in range it gets worse

[timid idol]

outlaw loses on big pulls but you have perma cooldowns so you ussually catch up in dps

easily

but locks are also a lil broken rn

[vivid vessel]

easely

[timid idol]

ok tbf i dont really play with the best people

im only doing 10s rn

so mayb its not easily

[desert tendon]

I hear that exact sentence since 2004 damn

[timid idol]

ill push 3k this week with my frens

[heavy shadow]

I've not enjoyed outlaw like I am now for ages tbh, I've stuck with it (like since before it was called outlaw haha) but never putting too much effort in. Managed 3k last season, was a grind, felt like other classes could faceroll and I was sweating hard usually. This season just seems easier

[timid idol]

idk it just felt so fucking bad last szn

i refused to play with old killing spree

i just played ret

[heavy shadow]

You had to try hard and close your eyes a lot, hoping not to die

[timid idol]

season 2 tierset ret scratched the apm itch a bit

nowhere the same as outlaw but

similar while being really good in keys

[merry zinc]

can some1 tell me how far assa and outlaw are apart dmg wise ?
And i always hear outlaw is very hard to play and isnt really recommended. Is it like that ?

[tropic zephyr]

myth warpclaw let's gooo

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean wake up maye

[desert tendon]

Well outlaw is fast paced and gcd by gcd decision making spec with a lot of bad results when badly played

Would Still recommand it if You want a never boring and challenging spec

[grim spear]

If we don’t run into any bugs, we should have 195 gilded this week, right?

[merry zinc]

sounds good tbh i cant play assa its too annoying for me the energy starving if a little mistake happens and the dot reapply stuff

what exactly makes it so hard? /challanging

[desert tendon]

Yea assa in raid is boooooring

[waxen scarab]

!log

[desert tendon]

Totally different in m+. Probably one of tje hardest to minmax currently

[merry zinc]

i only play m+

17-18 keys it was in s2

goal now is closer to title

[desert tendon]

As said, You dont have a gcd sequence as outlaw. You need to always react to proc and press buttons faster than other classes

It s a melee spec that s very bery very impacted by downtime

[merry zinc]

is it one of the strongest than atleast? :S

[desert tendon]

And if you dont plan on being MDI champion, you can play whatever

[merry zinc]

so the work you put into it is rewarding haha

[vivid vessel]

[desert tendon]

Any of the spec in tje game can "easily" get title

Well

Outlaw is strong

When well played

[vivid vessel]

it really isnt this tier censi

haha

[desert tendon]

And worst than a healer if badly played

I mean zac

Watching uour keys

[vivid vessel]

early season with no gear

[desert tendon]

Ol is currently in good shape enough

[vivid vessel]

you should hvae watched ptr

not early season weeklies

how do people get baited

every tier

by week 1 keys

its crazy to me

[desert tendon]

Sure it s not s3 df but Still doing its thing

[vivid vessel]

in s2

tww

yes

[desert tendon]

Idc about ptr

[vivid vessel]

in s3 its just bad

[desert tendon]

It s the worst shit ever

[vivid vessel]

ok but thats the only real data we had

lol

not week 1 weeklies??

[desert tendon]

Ptr is like week1 data

[vivid vessel]

no?

[desert tendon]

Pretty much useless

[vivid vessel]

we are full geared

playing highest keys

[desert tendon]

Yea and full bugged

[vivid vessel]

nah

not the last weeks

[desert tendon]

Have you seen ret this ptr?

[fervent garden]

this guy is great

[desert tendon]

Bugged till release

[vivid vessel]

idc no one plays ret

dude

censi

[desert tendon]

Zac

I m talking to someone

Who s goal is to get close to title nor in title

Dare tell me outlaw is so bad that hé cant

Go on

[vivid vessel]

no but he is asking if the spec is good

lol

[desert tendon]

It s above average imo

Am i wrong ?

[merry zinc]

ty for your honesty but i think im gonna look at sth else :S
i am atm choosing between havoc/Shadow/Hunter/Feral what would you recommend if i wanna go for those close to title @vivid vessel you played a lot more ptr than i did

[vivid vessel]

i think its perfectly average which is quite bad for outlaw

ye

cause you just do useless damage

i think outlaw in s3 is like outlaw in s1

you wont get invited

thats all

[vivid vessel]

i mean feral is quite good this season

meta contender

[desert tendon]

Wont get invited because assa exists

Not bécause outlaw is bad

Based

[vivid vessel]

no

both

[desert tendon]

Feral meta

What in the fudge

[vivid vessel]

litteraly both assa and sub are better than outlaw

feral is better

[desert tendon]

I bet on

[vivid vessel]

every mage spec is better

[merry zinc]

i only saw bad feral keys in logs atm is it that good?

[desert tendon]

Boomie mage assa

[vivid vessel]

every warlock spec is better

[merry zinc]

they mostly been on thiord spot

[vivid vessel]

hunter is better

both dk are better

warrior isnt better but it is if you consider the raid buff

[undone kelp]

zac would it be ideal if i craft a sword as first craft?

[vivid vessel]

ye if you one tirck outlaw

[undone kelp]

i am not raiding on outlaw that much

yeah i am playing only outlaw

[vivid vessel]

elem is better

idk about enhance

it was beating me on ptr

[undone kelp]

enhance is good in m+ only

by good i mean decent not any close to top specs

[potent latch]

is there any reason to track fatebound coins besides the fun?

[brave lagoon]

See how many coins you wasted during the whole expac

[tight kernel]

Zac go grab a French taco. You don’t sound happy rn

[desert tendon]

Tracking coins

Zac s never happy

Bro

Even realz said it

[vivid vessel]

why would i be happy

the spec was finally good in s2

[desert tendon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1212526973830570026/zachate.gif

[vivid vessel]

and they just fucked it up all

for nothing

[desert tendon]

But hey rrworked ks

[vivid vessel]

ye bro gg

destroyed trikcster

in the meantime

[brave lagoon]

Critterspree

[vivid vessel]

what happen when you double ks cd

[desert tendon]

And had to buff it by 2500%

[vivid vessel]

and do nothing to trickster

trikcster is trash

ye

thats what happen

[lofty pike]

But Fatebound is still Shit in m+, so you got a reason to Play trickster 🙂

[desert tendon]

Idk how they made fb

Tree is useless once uou have 2 targets

[brave lagoon]

Let's just buff rets again just in case they lock another disc channel

[desert tendon]

[zinc briar]

why do i feel like i dont have never rolls

with new set

[desert tendon]

Why s3 df tier is not baseline

Why delete acro

Where er

Where flag giving vers

[eager rose]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[gaunt phoenix]

nope

[zinc briar]

is it worth double dispatch with 1-2 combo points? with the new set

[gaunt phoenix]

you send the coup early only if you would otherwise have to press SS

so it is normal to Coup > AR/BF/PS/GS > Coup but not Coup > SS > Coup

[old gull]

2pce + 2pce somehow feels worse

But I do more st 🤷‍♂️

[brave lagoon]

I regret ever trying 2/2 and instead waited for 4 piece

[zinc briar]

new set feels shit playing

[brave lagoon]

Agreed

[zinc briar]

double grace is so bad..

oh mate... so clunky, all the week waiting for this..

[granite merlin]

Ooof I feel like trying to learn outlaw with hekili is actually hurting my dps lol

Somehow I have gotten zero set pieces in two weeks is doing like 3.6-3.8 million with last seasons tier set about right or is that bad? In m+

[gaunt phoenix]

last year?

[timid idol]

I feel so good with 4p now lol

Idk how it's clunky

[old gull]

I’m just gonna play old 4pce forever and live in HO

[timid idol]

Old 4p felt lame to me

[old gull]

Surely I can just unlock the portals and call it a day

[gaunt phoenix]

it's fun but your average dps was kind of based on rolling x number of 5 buffs

which could very well just not happen

[timid idol]

Last but not least dispatch damage as a tier set bonus is surreal boring

Others got so much more fun shit

[zinc briar]

after 1st grace u insta click the 2nd? always?

[timid idol]

At least coup is more fun to press than dispatch

[gaunt phoenix]

No, you build CPs if you can use AR/BF/PS/GS

but if you would have to press SS, then you press Coup early

(Dont bf on st)

[mossy shell]

but coup is dispatch

[heavy shadow]

Do you guys all macro Ghostly strike into your finishers btw? or with the new set bonus is there some min maxing to be done

[mossy shell]

I macro gs into BtE and KS

I'm probably bad though

[wide coral]

on bte but also have a keybind for it

[strong cargo]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[gaunt phoenix]

there is a cook with linking vanish and ghostly strike for fatebound, but i need to finalize it this week

not sure how much of it will be cringe macro gaming

Or just vanish gs

[hollow thunder]

Someone need to tell Blizz that coup on BTE and Dispatch would make it feel way better

[granite merlin]

Sorry meant last season

[gaunt phoenix]

3.8 overall does seem pretty low

[timid idol]

Ya but dispatch is lame

[hollow thunder]

Hopefully they add pool noodles in trading post so my rog can look like it’s damage on big pulls

[proven ocean]

What’s up

[civic zephyr]

bro can anyone explain transmogs to me,i never understood that shit

[gaunt phoenix]

Wdym explain

[lime lake]

You wear what looks cool

?

[hollow thunder]

You can change look of character without changing Stats

[civic zephyr]

but why its called transmog

[red zinc]

explain transmog

[gaunt phoenix]

Transmogification / transmogify

is a real word

i think

[civic zephyr]

Bro i am sorry,i played wow only for lore

[lime lake]

Transmogrify is a real word

They just named the system like it

[gaunt phoenix]

oh there's an r in there

[proven ocean]

?

[civic zephyr]

Transogrify? i dont want to be a ogre

[proven ocean]

Why is a cock called a cock

Because its a fucking cock u dont ask

[civic zephyr]

Sorry i am not native englisher

[proven ocean]

[vivid vessel]

bro is r1 ragebaiter

[echo hill]

Hard choice between neck or part (got 0 part atm)

[proven ocean]

Zac u play pinged me

[civic zephyr]

I am not a ragebaiter i am just asking why things are called like that

[vivid vessel]

ye

we play today no ?

[proven ocean]

Im traveling tmrw

Wdym play raid today

[vivid vessel]

like rn ???

are you stupid

or what

[proven ocean]

Oh

Play what

[desert tendon]

Omw zac

[vivid vessel]

WIOW

[proven ocean]

I just woke up zac

[vivid vessel]

WORLD OF WARCRAFT

[proven ocean]

Oh

[desert tendon]

Zero gimme ur acc

[proven ocean]

Wiow

[proven ocean]

If my name was hopeful sure

[jolly geyser]

hop on fellowship

[proven ocean]

Zac

I need to eat..

[random stirrup]

real

[proven ocean]

I’ll be away for 3 days so

I prob cant play today

[desert tendon]

where ya going loser

[vivid vessel]

login and stfu

we play wow

[tight kernel]

Dommy mommy Zac?

[wintry solar]

Zeross discovered the word "cock"

[jolly geyser]

plonker

[waxen scarab]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[gaunt phoenix]

You can also prekey loaded dice again

[vivid vessel]

and ub

solo thoughts on vanish > ks > coup > coup

surely you farm back a vanish

so you dont lose antyhing

and gain like one bte

or

i need to try it out

[gaunt phoenix]

hm

idk

[cedar bone]

someone has WA for fractilus trinket?

[proven ocean]

Type it out on wago

Name of the trinket

You’ll find plenty

[violet ferry]

When RtB hits a jackpot

[cedar bone]

thx

[hollow thunder]

If I’m inside Vanish and get KS or Coup with like 3-4 seconds left on Subterfurge i “complete” the vanish with BTE and then press KS or Coup outside ? Or just press it inside sub

[gaunt phoenix]

wait for after subt

[muted iron]

is that degen SnD bug still in working?

[proven ocean]

degen snd bug still working

Not as important anymore

[muted iron]

brilliant haha

[proven ocean]

it like

half works now

[muted iron]

also, 2p/2p, are we still playing Fate in ST? Can't get a single hero helm to drop -_-

[timid idol]

what is this lmao

[inner meadow]

i crafted 1h first week

do i get bracers now or what

[lofty sand]

was thinking about this, tried it sometimes

idk if its worth it

[proven ocean]

blizzard plz buff outlaw and warrior

being below brewmaster is omega cringe..

[cobalt sail]

+1

[lofty sand]

maybe the rogue wasnt that good...

[violet ferry]

EverQuest lol

[lofty sand]

2/10,

?

[safe pasture]

does anyone know what our best trinkets are for m+ specifically rn

[cobalt sail]

Check the rogue spreadsheet

[safe pasture]

where can i find this spred sheet

[lofty sand]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cobalt sail]

pinned messages

[safe pasture]

ty!

[tulip quarry]

I suspect Antena to oversim

Due to the nature of the trinket i highly doubt the accounted uptime to be relevant

Do you have data @sacred rune ?

[west quartz]

Also curious on this, my sim last night shows my dps higher using higher ilvl gear in place of 2pc/2pc but it felt slow and clunky as hell.

[muted iron]

pins say fatebound so we play fatebound

[sacred rune]

the implementation did get changed a few time, it should in general fit the sim. You can ofc high and low roll

[tulip quarry]

I average arround 28% uptime

And there are a lot of situation where the orb stay stuck on ground elements and did not reach me

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah it's from movement

[tulip quarry]

Or where it simply stay still far away

OR simply disapear ont its own

[gaunt phoenix]

and yeah on single target you play 2/2 fatebound

or well most of the raid

you have to get used to it a bit

[west quartz]

Thanks. Ya I switched the 2pc only of new set with a 6 ilvl increase and it did not feel good.

[gaunt phoenix]

Did you switch to loaded dice talent

[west quartz]

Yes

[normal forge]

why i cant open items linked in my chat?

[vivid vessel]

warrior has a raid buff

legit

he is topping every key

by 10%

[nova basin]

thats insane

let me go to ret pally discord to make me feel better.

[heavy shadow]

Are people using bubbling wax or just double stones?

wax for ST, AoE/M+ double stone?

[rapid spoke]

really dunno what to pick, I have hero set helm, and shoulders with legs ready for convertion, don't really want hands cuz mastery is eww, delve trinket is great and antenna is bis

should I just go for set chest and be done with it

[lone spear]

why is it i see that i'm on 7 coins using macro, it doesnt give me lucky coin?

is there some kind of delay to it?

[desert tendon]

@vivid vessel

i got baited again

[glass yew]

hey! do u have any macro for new potion and stealth? manualy somtimes it dont works in pack fights 🙁

[desert tendon]

dude never play rogue 😔

[random stirrup]

stream title: rogue
character name: chickn
actual spec: feral

master bait or what?

[craggy quiver]

Otl just feels so rough this raid man

[red zinc]

the aura farming is crazy

[cobalt sail]

ARISE

[violet ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/enano-gnomo-maldito-gnomo-sinful-dwarf-creepy-smile-gif-13191286

[hollow thunder]

and least we blasting im M+

haha

right?

haha

[lone spear]

am i tripping or is this legit just not working?

[red zinc]

only going into class discords to complain about class being bad is definitely strange behaviour

[lone spear]

7 coins no lucky

[gaunt phoenix]

you are using bte

stealth > AR + GS will give you 6 of both coins

stealth > AR + GS + BTE will give you 7/4 coins with no lucky coin (god knows why)

[rapid grail]

guys

[lone spear]

so after the macro

[rapid grail]

are we gonna get aST buff?

[lone spear]

i just press dispatch?

[gaunt phoenix]

after the macro you RTB

[rapid grail]

for real our ST is soooo abd

[lone spear]

oh ok

[craggy quiver]

Would be sick for the last boss during intermission they could pause buffs from ticking down

Or something

[red zinc]

if that tech was there they wouldve done it for a lot of things a long time ago

[gaunt phoenix]

Last boss is legit one of the worst outlaw bosses i ever ran

[craggy quiver]

A man can dream

[lone spear]

yea, doesnt help my computer dies during p2

[red zinc]

idk theres so many maintenance things on other classes too

i dont get why they do so many long intermissions while adding more and more

deathstalker and shit too

[gaunt phoenix]

opener broken

hitbox is negative

flying, twice

burn phase after downtime

like fuck out of here

[craggy quiver]

Oh yea forgot about the portal entry

Lmao

[compact mountain]

They did that on the Sylvannas fight in Sanctum. The tech is there, they just don't care.

[red zinc]

yeah but thats full stasis idk

would have to be something that freezes buffs while dragonriding and going away exactly when you land

[compact mountain]

Given how much money they are milking from us with their "1 expansion for the price of 3" policy, I think they can afford a dev to make that happen, they just don't care.

[red zinc]

thats a lil senseless dooming

this xpac has had more content than the last two in a shorter span of time

definitely not pushing out as many seasons as id want them to (legion-esque) but its been a pretty good xpac

i do kinda think that this patch was not supposed to be in this xpac though, looking at that harranir zone

[heavy shadow]

can tanks roll on loom trinket..?

[dry jay]

Good 2 pieces of tier from the new season and 2 from the previous one, is it ok or do I lose damage, since I have myth tier pants and hero bib from this season

[red zinc]

pins explain it pretty well

[gaunt phoenix]

Fatebound uses 2 set immediately

and you are fatebound for most of the raid

Trickster will probably still use old 4 set

[dry jay]

ty well wait to have 4 pieces of tier xD

[deep cedar]

any tips on what to craft this week?

[gaunt phoenix]

i did ring

dont think it matters much

good rings/belts dont really exist unless you purchase BoE

[deep cedar]

oh kk

[strong halo]

Bracers too no?

[gaunt phoenix]

there's a crit/vers bracer somewhere

but yea crafting bracer is the same shit

[strong halo]

Really? I thought they were all mastery

Didn’t see crit vers

[gaunt phoenix]

oh it's the catalyst bracer

lol

[strong halo]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh

[gaunt phoenix]

that might be a while

[strong halo]

Yeah that’s not happening for a while

Lmao Solo “I catalyst bracers week 1” imagine

[gaunt phoenix]

there are haste/vers and crit/vers bracers from delve

if you are lucky with map

[strong halo]

I shit neck / rings I might do a delve or too

But we don’t get much value from delves

[green elm]

how do u find our new 4P (Trickster) in m+ ?

[unborn spire]

I have switched to the new 4 set and in keys (trickster) it just feels terrible compared to the old one. Highly likely I'm doing something wrong but just wondered if anyone else felt it?

[gaunt phoenix]

it's interesting

[green elm]

ok im not the only one to feel the same thing

[gaunt phoenix]

some people say i fucking love this tier

[strong halo]

I hate it tbh

[gaunt phoenix]

and others say it feels weird

[heavy shadow]

and some people think I'm bonkers

[strong halo]

Feels clunky vs what we had before

And other specs have

[random stirrup]

coup having a longer gcd is wack

[green elm]

play outlaw with full buff 90% of a key will miss me hard

[gaunt phoenix]

i want what this guy is having #outlaw message

[unborn spire]

Yeah like, I have noticed a slight overall drop with the new tier in keys

[strong halo]

I just don’t get how it can be fun

Your just pressing “access” to finisher again

[gaunt phoenix]

i like coup, it feels like big dam

[strong halo]

Would have been cool if like coup empowered your next KS by like 20% or gave you insta full combo

[gaunt phoenix]

i mean it gives you like 30% finisher damage buff

[green elm]

it seems to make the outlaw a little more bursty and less consistent

[strong halo]

I kinda feel like it the opposite

Most consistent spec In game

@gaunt phoenix how was your vault?

[gaunt phoenix]

just tier

[strong halo]

I got mythic claw but it hurt so bad to give up BIS gloves

[gaunt phoenix]

i'm ngl i wouldnt have taken claw myself

it's fine tho

[strong halo]

I didn’t have catalyst for pants so it would have been a while without actually having the upgrade

And I love instant gratification

[buoyant ridge]

good morning all ... I'm going to ask a stupid question because I want to make sure (first time playing Trickster) .... .Dispatch automatically turns into Coup de Grace right? nothing to add to talent bar?

[gaunt phoenix]

ya that's right

[strong halo]

You will also see in meters it’s a smaller “hit” but it hits three times. So coup is a big big finisher

[buoyant ridge]

ok, now here's another .... does the icon change when it's Coup? or does it remain looking like Dispatch .... I have a #showtooltip macro and it's not changing so just curious

[gaunt phoenix]

hm i actually dont know i dont see my action bars

[worthy thunder]

It changes icon

[strong halo]

It changes and glows

[humble temple]

how does outlaw want to use netherprism? i've got one and it's outsimming my other stuff, but not sure how to use it exactly, was thinking of binding it into vanish, or is that trolling?

[gaunt phoenix]

You should prolly use a weakaura that tells you when Coup is available and ready to be casted (when you have 4 stacks of the Escalating Blade buff)

cause it has higher priority than vanish/bte

[buoyant ridge]

ok, I'll need to check my logs and probably get rid of the macro (I don't even remember what it is, this just occured to me at work to ask lol)

oh, is there a WA y'all recommed, that sounds handy af

[strong halo]

I end up against the edge of AR timer a lot though where I rather throw coup away than lose AR

Well you don’t lose Coup you wait for subtler

[gaunt phoenix]

the rule we tested was to send it alongside vanish after you used kir (so 4+ buffs ticking)

but it wasnt like rigorous test, there could be a better rule

[humble temple]

cool ty!

[gaunt phoenix]

it also didnt seem to matter a whole lot compared to just slamming it

[humble temple]

sounds like it's pretty forgiving then?

[gaunt phoenix]

cuz outlaw flat damage

[humble temple]

yeah that's why i was a little confused

i may just keep it unmacroed and try to use it during vanish windows with 4 buffs then

[gaunt phoenix]

its probably better to save it for certain pulls

in keys

[humble temple]

[strong halo]

I fucken love double passive trinket

[gaunt phoenix]

i like double on use atm

idol and signet

in keys

raid is stinky passive trinkets

[strong halo]

You’re an animal, double on use is the bane of my existence

More buttons to press

How is idol to use? It’s sims amazing

[fallen knot]

i crafted a 1hander solo did i do it right

might have the gilded for a 2nd onehander since it's my alt and i wont raid mythic

or do i upgrade my myth track haste vers neck?

[gaunt phoenix]

offhand is probably not priority upgrade

[fallen knot]

ookok

mainhander was the move tho

[covert kestrel]

always

[fallen knot]

might heroic craft something with the storymode crest

like wrists and be done for the season with them slamming a socket onto it

[strong halo]

You’re capped on crests, I think crafting 720 has more value

[floral compass]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[keen belfry]

well solo i crafted an off hand so get owned noob

[fallen knot]

i have 2 sparks

1 is for onehander

[strong halo]

Yeah why use 1 spark on non 729

[covert kestrel]

i will also be crafting an oh dagger so get rekt solo

[strong halo]

720*

[fallen knot]

second is for heroic free craft for campaign

[strong halo]

Dagger squaddd. Other spec enjoyers

[covert kestrel]

not assa tho

never assa

[fallen knot]

i was considering legit sending 2x onehanders

but offhand is not prio so yea

[ionic nimbus]

as someone who just got their 4 set today, the trickster 4 set bonus is boring as all fuck

SAD

[fallen knot]

outlaw rogue spec onetrick

[strong halo]

You can sim

All crafts

[covert kestrel]

ye if youre one trick its def not an oh angle

[strong halo]

In droptimizer

[keen belfry]

craft 2 swords stove

embrace the sword

[fallen knot]

onetrick meaning i wont play assa or sub

[strong halo]

I saw someone here crafted mace. Inconceivable

[fallen knot]

but it's my alter

so i wont prog on it

[random stirrup]

the storymode crest craft is good if you have something else to dump gilded into

[fallen knot]

haste vers myth track neck

[strong halo]

You don’t get main stat from neck

[fallen knot]

i get aura for bis stats on neck

[round lagoon]

!gear

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1406175771495759952/outlaw.webp

[marble bloom]

Is a sim able to account for the goblin racial needing 1% less haste to reach cap without me doing anything extra? Or is the 19% ideal not hard baked into the sim?

[covert kestrel]

yeah im torn between sending a 620 dagger for sub funsies or just doing the story crest for it and upgrading my myth trink

[old gull]

vanish resetting these solo encounter bosses is going to make me quit this game

[covert kestrel]

it should know (i sim to like 18.something percent with gobbo)

[fallen knot]

620 dagger would be gigachad ngl

[random stirrup]

well the alt craft would prob be ring no

[fallen knot]

i did a floodgate as assa with a 636 dagger from s1 on

[random stirrup]

maybe wrist

im not sure what outlaw is playing long term

[strong halo]

You’re capped on sparks though. Sending on a non myth is kinda awkward unless you have something great to dump crests on

[fallen knot]

i got a haste vers neck from vault

myth track

not a craft

craft would be wrists or something

or ring

[random stirrup]

its the long term goated neck i dont think its too bad to dump crests into it

[marble bloom]

Did you attempt to build a BiS set of gear using a tool or is that too far off to bother with week 2?

[covert kestrel]

i mean mythic warpclaw is gonna be with me this whole patch at this point, but yea thats where im torn

[rare shoal]

!gear

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1406175771495759952/outlaw.webp

[random stirrup]

704 ring with story mode crest with lens

[covert kestrel]

i dont care about bis lists, just check sims each new piece of gear

[fallen eagle]

hello, how can I get this weapon in 691 max ilvl? the npc sold it to me with only 678 max

[covert kestrel]

once a week random drop

[gaunt phoenix]

its a chance from the weekly bag

[fallen eagle]

oh ok ain't farming shit then thanks

[strong halo]

The quest right? Not the completion reward

[gaunt phoenix]

ya

[strong halo]

You just do nightfall once a week

[gaunt phoenix]

ya

[cinder haven]

I opened the box with assa loot spec like an idiot this reset

[strong halo]

But I’m glad I’m not switching weapons right now hehe

[covert kestrel]

not a craft main hand enjoyer?

[strong halo]

Not bad if you already crafted mh

[fallen knot]

no it's not the one from soulbinder, it's a random haste vers neck from dungeons

[cinder haven]

I meant the cudgel box

[covert kestrel]

ohhh

[fallen knot]

but it's still a myth piece and i would not spend crests anyways soooooooo

[covert kestrel]

rip

[cinder haven]

My vault was shit too though

[strong halo]

Oh lmao rip

[covert kestrel]

btw everyone i got rank 4 on fractilius LFR, my coaching starts at $269/hr

[cinder haven]

No usable myth track items

No tier

No good trinkets even

[covert heart]

When are you avaliable? I got a rank 9 normal dimmy kill but I really wanna step up to the big leagues of lfr

[strong halo]

I got 2 94 passes this week, which one of you keeps taking my 95

[civic zephyr]

during the opener - you have 2 stacks of vanish, do you killing spree before using a stack of vanish, or do you spend a stack of vanish first then do KS?

[gaunt phoenix]

you ks first

[civic zephyr]

ok tyty

[covert kestrel]

only between 5:43am-6:22am every other Tuesday

[covert heart]

Oh okay okay, get me on the books plz. I got 3 of my logs disqualified because for some reason our priest decided to pi an outlaw rogue 3 times 😭

[strong halo]

I get PI on my rogue more than my mage

[nova basin]

wait am i tripping?

[strong halo]

Remove 3rd boss

And we’re cooked

[rotund zodiac]

any tips to not waste UB stack with new set?

[keen belfry]

plan ahead

[rotund zodiac]

the extra proc is annoying

I'll hit more dummies

[keen belfry]

it just requires a slight pause when you are at 2 or 3 coup stacks and have ub

now when you dont know if u have a ub and that happens its honestly probs fine cuz you wont waste an extra one

[balmy topaz]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[red zinc]

I love how nobody noticed that prey system they announced for midnight

Wowhead didnt even post about it

Normally they post massive articles about grains of info, barely anything about this reveal cycle

[gaunt phoenix]

popo posted it and i thought it was ai pasta for a second

[red zinc]

They alr revealed all the dungeons with short clips too

Squishei goat yapper must be at gamescom or sumn

[desert tendon]

i wish i could yap at gamescom

nocap

[rotund zodiac]

ty awang 🙂

[keen belfry]

what could this even be

[red zinc]

Its like

[rotund zodiac]

Monster Hunter ahh feature

[red zinc]

Nemesis delves but in open world and quests to bait em out

[rotund zodiac]

I think

[red zinc]

Or something akin to that

[keen belfry]

none of these 2 things make sense to me idk what they are

[red zinc]

Like kyveza

But they just appear in open world

Can pick your own difficulty for more rewards andshi

They talk about it on like sunday i think

[strong halo]

is feast or bounty better for us?

[gaunt phoenix]

feast

[strong halo]

ty

[vivid vessel]

np

[frail veldt]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[proven ocean]

Np

[red zinc]

@keen belfry my girl asked if i want dome i said nah i need a priory

[keen belfry]

LETS GO NEW ONE

my girl just asked me if i did the eco dome weekly, i said naw but i could use a suck session

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[gaunt phoenix]

hm

[keen belfry]

ecological succession solo

its a play on words

[gaunt phoenix]

i see

[keen belfry]

double on trawn day

[keen belfry]

@red zinc

[red zinc]

crazy

i dont have the "his writing is this fire?" on hand new pc

[keen belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

dudes talking about a weekly quest for succession, im on a daily quest for a suck session

okay im done back to being an adult

[stiff vector]

[red zinc]

ok put him back in the jail

[dreamy holly]

what are you guys sending your craft on this week?

[keen belfry]

dagger offhand cuz good for law and other specs

rip sword tmog tho

[dreamy holly]

rip

was considering a ring but offhand's probably more impactful huh

[ornate kernel]

!gear

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1406175771495759952/outlaw.webp

[white marten]

Omg, is this like the first time ever all 3 rogue specs are cranking in M+? 👀👀

[rapid grail]

any video guides for outlaw i cant find in yutube

[summer frost]

Hello everyone
Quick question for a trinket : what would be the best choice between Incorporeal Warpclaw and Ara-Kara Sacbrood ?
Or should i just sim my character to see ?

[violet ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY

[rapid grail]

wtf xDD

i mean here a channel for answering ppl question right?

[whole cloak]

Jus saw the Fuu's talents for single target fatebound, we do use it with 2p + 2p?

[covert kestrel]

no the other way around

[chilly dagger]

Is there any diff opener with loaded dice? Is it still flurry-stealth-roll-ar? Or do we AR before the first roll now say in m+

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah

[gaunt phoenix]

you AR into RTB now

[covert kestrel]

if youre just sticking to outlaw ring will prob be best craft or upgrading another low ilvl piece, oh is pretty insignificant but the best craft if you are doing anything with assa or sub

[gaunt phoenix]

also fatebound uses a macro for bug abuse

/cast Adrenaline Rush
/cast Ghostly Strike```
Open with this to get 6 of both coins, followed by rtb

[covert kestrel]

yes but we dont really have any guide makers, the last good outlaw video guide was s3 df

[whole cloak]

what about vanish uses if I didnt get ruthless from rtb, how long do I hold vanish for D:

[gaunt phoenix]

the current rule is to use vanish with RP or supercharger but this rule is actually changing soon

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix so when you have 2 vanish, you can easely do ks > vanish coup coup

without wasting the vanish

way better !

no capi

[gaunt phoenix]

with TB or?

[vivid vessel]

idk

i think i did it with tb always

but

[gaunt phoenix]

im not totally sure what you mean

[vivid vessel]

its so large

you can do it without

well

[frail veldt]

Do we still just GS on cd as trickster? Or is it slightly better to try and use it for cps? Ive been playign to use it only when the buff is down for uptime as 1pt fth and to not drain energy esp in ST not sure if thats correct though

[vivid vessel]

when you have 2 stack of vanish

rn you either coup coup > vanihs wasting a lot of cdr

or you vanish finish vanish coup coup vanish

[whole cloak]

ohhh

I get it

[vivid vessel]

im saying you can just coup inside subt

[whole cloak]

thats dope

[frail veldt]

theres 3 vanishes here

[dreamy holly]

you send the second coup at whatever cps?

[vivid vessel]

no

you just cant read

bozo

[proper veldt]

he said you get the vanish back

that's the third vanish

[frail veldt]

do you mean when you have 2 stack of vanish ready and coup ready its better to vanish and coup in that first vanish over coup before?

[proper veldt]

from the cdr of first vanish + double coup

[vivid vessel]

ye

imo

[frail veldt]

fair

[vivid vessel]

and im correct

[frail veldt]

what if you get coup towards the end of vanish

[vivid vessel]

cause you farm back the vanish

[frail veldt]

why not just hold the coup

[vivid vessel]

during vanish

and coup

anyway

[frail veldt]

if you have no UB

and you can do your vanish without SSing

[vivid vessel]

wht

[frail veldt]

like if you get it halfway

into a vanish

[vivid vessel]

you dont get it halfawy

[frail veldt]

why not

[vivid vessel]

this is like

[frail veldt]

ub is random

[vivid vessel]

opener situation

[frail veldt]

ah

[vivid vessel]

not my ub

m,y ub is better than yours

[frail veldt]

well the double stack

sometimes can happen

mid vanish

the 2pc proc

[vivid vessel]

thats a skill issue

i show you

first pack

look

[frail veldt]

so youre saying on opener you do opener subt->KS->build to coup->vanish->coup inside vanish->continue on

[vivid vessel]

bro doesnt know the tech

waht a noob

[frail veldt]

I know first pack you can

[vivid vessel]

i dont build to coup thats for noobs

[frail veldt]

Im just saying in general

okay so youre pre stacking UB before key

[vivid vessel]

[frail veldt]

so you generate coup in the first subt

[gaunt phoenix]

i mean the scenario is about having 2 stacks of vanish

so proccing coup inside vanish is not part of it, cause then you dont have 2 stacks of vanish

[frail veldt]

makes sense

[rapid grail]

can explain me what is UB xD

[dreamy holly]

unseen blade

trickster hero talent

[granite merlin]

My god what have I done. Lol I changed to outlaw from assassination and sub with the ks change and my dps just bricked is there a video guide anywhere that breaks rotation down I think reading makes me stupid and do worse and hekili gets me the gist of it but I’m not sure it’s right cause my dam seems hella low trying to use it and when I turn it off my brain just blanks

[dreamy holly]

it builds towards a coup de grace

[rapid grail]

i should track something when i play outlaw with 4p ? cuz i feel liek im doingh low damage

[dreamy holly]

i dont think its trackable (?)

its every 20s and can reset on procs

[covert kestrel]

no good videos, its just a high paced spec that you gotta get used to making the right decisions very quickly. smack dummies for a few hours

[granite merlin]

How do I know I’m making correct decisions though?

[violet ferry]

number go up

[covert kestrel]

AR uptime is a big indicator

in dungeons you should be aiming for at least 85% uptime of AR

[granite merlin]

Assassination and sub rules are sooooo static

This is like effing chaos lol

[covert kestrel]

yup, welcome to the crackhead rogue spec

no rules just vibes

[granite merlin]

I love it though 🙂 my group hates my 4.8 million to 3.5 million dps drop in m+ though

[covert kestrel]

and read #outlaw-faq every 10 minutes

[violet ferry]

got any more o them Adrenaline Rushes?

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[granite merlin]

I did tell my tank to stop letting me get into stealth and just effing non stop chain pull as outlaw that’s helped my AR at least

[violet ferry]

restealths are good though

preserves AR time

[granite merlin]

Oh I use it

Whenever I can but it’s not like assassination where you need indiscriminate carnage to spread

[covert kestrel]

its neutral between restealth and constant uptime

[stiff vector]

I mean if your tank is chaining packs good you dont really need restealths, just grapple to next pack and it nbd

[strong halo]

is it worth spamming delves for hero gear or just better to do m+?

[stiff vector]

you just keep your momentum rolling

[dreamy holly]

you cant spam delves for hero gear

[thin dagger]

Tested the 5-target dummies in Dornogal, are you guys capping at more or less 10mill dps?

[covert kestrel]

can be good for vault slots for tier, but you can only get one hero piece a week

[dreamy holly]

you get 1 per week with a bounty

[fallen knot]

is there a weakaura for astral antenna?

like

[strong halo]

i havent done a single delve yet this week

[fallen knot]

that says

HELLOOOOO ORBS SPAWNED LOOK AROUND

or something like that

[strong halo]

i dont have a bounty but i havent gotten hero piece yet is it worth going for that 1 piece?

[granite merlin]

lol I max delves and dungeons and have yet to get a heroic tier peice in two weeks so I guess it depends on your gear …..

And my mythic was a dumpster trinket

[dreamy holly]

thats up to you, can you do mythic 6+?

[delicate saffron]

fatebound on Araz?

[strong halo]

spamming 10s as we speak. just wondering whats more efficient

[dreamy holly]

well, there you have it

[granite merlin]

Do you have tier?

[delicate saffron]

who, me ? 2p/2p

with very low ilvl

[granite merlin]

It’s three extra chances for tier from delves

[dreamy holly]

hero track from vault is kinda griefing yourself if you can do 10s

[delicate saffron]

so idk if i should stay fatebound for araz hc or not

[jolly geyser]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[old gull]

do i just do kyveza without subterfuge?

[frail veldt]

No you can vanish on her

[old gull]

i have reset her like 7 times in a row

[frail veldt]

@vivid vessel as 1pt fth in single target do you gs on CD for cps or do you gs for uptime?

I feel like energy wise I'm happier if I don't gs if I already have the debuff active

[frail veldt]

There's a couple times you can't

Like during the start of portals phase

Or if brann is dead

Or if bran is mid jump

[old gull]

portals, got it

[tender breach]

for crfted items this patch? MH + waist?

[tawdry linden]

Ring probably, no good rings this season

[granite merlin]

lol dude I agree except I have zero tier in two weeks and my mythic stuff was all bad trinkets :/ it never hurts to hedge bets for more options also my group isn’t excited about my ass dmg while they are all exploding

[tawdry linden]

Quick question, is Cudgel worth using for the entire key or just at the start of the dungeon at big pulls?

[tender breach]

u switch on bosses @tawdry linden

there is amacro

[tawdry linden]

Ahh thanks!

[pliant ibex]

Hey ! I’m still not sure if I pref sub or outlaw. If I craft a dagger to play with both is it still viable for outlaw or is it troll ?

[tender breach]

for embeli elemental focusing lens

[solid kelp]

hey guys, what would you pick: myth signet of the priory or future socket?

[gaunt phoenix]

it would be your offhand which is fine

[hybrid crown]

If you aren't gonna whole ass outlaw you should go with dagger

[gaunt phoenix]

i like signet in keys, sockets are so minimal

idk

[covert kestrel]

@keen belfry o fuck i crafted dagger and now my mogs are ruined

[tender breach]

@gaunt phoenix for crafted items? MH and what else? embel focusing lens?

[solid kelp]

ill probably never set foot in mythic raid, so signet it is, tyvm!

[gaunt phoenix]

ring/belt/wrist is all the same really

with lens

[pliant ibex]

Thanks guys !

[hybrid crown]

Does this season have dinars

[gaunt phoenix]

it will yes\

[hybrid crown]

Niceee

[strong halo]

WHo says dagger mog cant work

[hybrid crown]

The tmog from the new expansion is so cool lookin

[keen belfry]

u must use legion artifacts

[strong halo]

DWARF SUPREMACY

[covert kestrel]

ugh i havent grinded them

[keen belfry]

i didnt grind them idk why i ahve them

[violet ferry]

delicious artifacts

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-time-busy-aint-nobody-got-time-for-that-gif-15753141

[jade abyss]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oTS9tuNusKuah2Gvc776hB

Where is that trinket from? Delve?

is it sim bait or an actual good trinket?

[gaunt phoenix]

ya delve

i have it, it is good

on st

[livid pewter]

do we get 2nd spark this week? or is it next week to craft 2nd item?

[keen belfry]

solo gatekeeping bis trinket to himself

[covert kestrel]

this week

[rapid grail]

the wowhead guide didnt explain anything about UB or Coupdegrace

where can i read about this ?

[covert kestrel]

#outlaw-faq

[flat briar]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[livid pewter]

perfect ty ... not it just needs to drop kekw

[covert kestrel]

just do a weekly

[jade abyss]

You're always there to answer all my ignorant questions and I really appreciate it thank you

[violet ferry]

Are hotdogs sandwiches?

[desert tendon]

Good question

Are french tacos sandwiches ?

[red zinc]

Lmao

[frail veldt]

why your character glowing

[red zinc]

Wowhead is on a generational backtracking run

[frail veldt]

is that the highlight setting or whatever

[red zinc]

Transmogs aint actually free in midnight

[desert tendon]

Wtf

[frail veldt]

its not free rn

wdym

[desert tendon]

I was about to buy the expac only for free mogging

[red zinc]

There was a wowhead article yesterday saying it would be free in midnight

They misinterpreted a dev

[frail veldt]

wowhead?

misrepresent?

no way

[red zinc]

Its at least tied to slots now instead of items

[covert kestrel]

wait no way

[red zinc]

Only took 22 years

[frail veldt]

I mean its on purpose

they have to regulate inflation somehow

[red zinc]

guild hall will cost 5mill all good

[frail veldt]

im so broke

I need to sell keys or something this season

[red zinc]

job into wow tokens for me

[covert kestrel]

id buy your keys mewo

[red zinc]

Sadly more efficient

[frail veldt]

tybb

[red zinc]

I think only like

[frail veldt]

yeaaah thats usually my issue

[red zinc]

Week 1 expansion +10s are slightly better

[frail veldt]

but also for things like selling 10s when im farming a trinket

[red zinc]

Since its 200k+ for 30 minutes

[frail veldt]

might as well

yaknow

like if im gona spam floodgate

why not just sell the last dps slot lol

[red zinc]

Friend who said he would never get banned for rmt gold got banned for it last season

[desert tendon]

I woild never got banned from rmt

Since i quitted myself

Get owned blizzard

[late swallow]

new allied race grippers go crazy

[covert kestrel]

guys i just got world first dimensius story mode AMA

[daring oxide]

I hope they have a good racial trait, imagine if they have a vanish like racial (better than shadowmeld)

[covert kestrel]

midnight all combat and stat racials are being yeeted

[daring oxide]

Or

If they made them character traits

Instead of racials

Like RPG

Like I wanna be a brawn night elf

[covert kestrel]

we need more trees

[lucid sandal]

Is the wowhead guide up to date for when we should play trickster and when we should play fatebound in raid

[daring oxide]

Brawn meaning crit damage ye

[tender breach]

for 4 piece which 4/5 we prefer?

[gaunt phoenix]

where

Idk what im looking for

ah

yes this is correct

[rotund zodiac]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[gaunt phoenix]

the last 2 bosses were kind of an open question but we're leaning towards fatebound

[rotund zodiac]

you should add AR+KS for pre key, I think that works?

[gaunt phoenix]

yep

[rotund zodiac]

free UB stacks

[tender breach]

@gaunt phoenix for 4 piece which 4/5 we prefer?

[gaunt phoenix]

and loaded dice

gloves is the off piece but it doesnt matter a whole lot

[tender breach]

thnxz

[willow portal]

why is blizz scaming us with the delve trinket vendor

only dog trinkets today

[frail veldt]

blizz gives you a way

to pikc the trinket you want

from delves

[gaunt phoenix]

hm?

[frail veldt]

and you find something to complain about it?

smh my head

[willow portal]

i mean i was memeing but were you a fan of the corruption vendor then?

[frail veldt]

yeah im mostly memeing too

I didnt play bfa

or legion

or whenever corruptions were

sounded shit

I dont like having to farm that much lol

[covert heart]

Atleast they gave us the vender. I remember when it was just a total shit show in bfa 🤣

[willow portal]

blizz isnt giving us a way, they are showing us a gravel road instead of taking us directly to the goal

[frail veldt]

yes they didnt roll out a red carpet

when they do that

peopel complain that theres "nothing to do"

I really dont see how them giving you a vendor to BUY rng trinkets from is anything but a benefit

[covert heart]

People do that now already even if they only do 25% of the content

[frail veldt]

like when people complained dinars were too slow rofl

[covert heart]

The only thing I change about dinars is if you kill a mythic bosses on one toon it unlocks it for the rest of your toons

Samething with all 12s

[frail veldt]

that would be great

one of my biggest complaints right now

[keen belfry]

highlight yes

[frail veldt]

with gearing

is that

VALORSTONE CAP

IS TOO LOW

wtf is 2k

blizzard

[covert heart]

Yea i think valorstones should just go as well

[frail veldt]

I mean

some is fine

idc about that

[covert heart]

Its just kind of pointless I feel

Just keep the crest and we good to go

[rapid grail]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gqaFXHLaQwBvzujYfyfHTx

is that even farming this trinekts worth the time?

only 0.02%

upgrade

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel

i found insane outlaw tech

holy shit

u there

actually

nvm

[rapid grail]

xD

[white marten]

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[bright crane]

https://tenor.com/view/mother-of-god-gif-10218431

[frail veldt]

have you tried playing with the GS tech in ST as fatebound

it kinda goes hard

[fair charm]

I added roll the bones and combat pot to the macro. It freaking rocks as an opener.

[livid pewter]

holy moly i literally did every weekly quest possible and got no fkin spark

[frail veldt]

yeah but beyond that you can play around GS CD for your vanishes

[fair charm]

Gotta do the delve one or whatever the weekly is.

[livid pewter]

ah well and im an idiot i have the other half on the fkin bank hahahahaha

[willow portal]

[fair charm]

Yeah it’s odd. I want to vanish inside of AR so waiting for AR to be up and needing to vanish is an odd situation

[frail veldt]

well you dont need to do that

GS is a short cd

[proven ocean]

nope

[frail veldt]

Im just saying if GS has like <20/30s cd left then just hold vanish for it

[proven ocean]

its a private tech

[frail veldt]

then you can vanish->GS + BtE

[fair charm]

Oh I thought you wanted to use the AR+GS macro midcombat.

[white marten]

Dude, we all wanna do ross numbers. Dont tease us like this 😭

[lime lake]

sorry bro gotta sub to his onlyfans

[willow portal]

what tags can i use here to not show the full hp number

its too big for my frame

nvm got it

[vivid vessel]

[curhp] |[( )dechp]

[willow portal]

ill test that

[vivid vessel]

on suf right ?

[trail ravine]

stupid question, does ad rush add on to your current ad rush or overlap it

[gaunt phoenix]

overlap

but that's fine

you generally slam AR for CPs/energy/coins

[trail ravine]

gotcha

[willow portal]

sooo

that aint it

[trail ravine]

lol

[keen belfry]

Leave it