#outlaw

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light dune
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with loaded dice or doesnt matter

frail veldt
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Loaded dice changes will lose

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Just adds one to your decision making right?

gaunt phoenix
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# Without TWW2, roll if you will lose 0 buffs, or 1 buff with Loaded Dice active. This includes rolling immediately after KIR.

roll_the_bones,if=!set_bonus.tww2_4pc&rtb_buffs.will_lose<=buff.loaded_dice.up
potent yacht
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did they fix the death bug on tazavesh?

pure echo
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in the WA kit whats the point of the ace refund WA?

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doesnt the base game make a sound? is it just for changing that sound?

buoyant cosmos
gaunt phoenix
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i think its just a different sound

buoyant cosmos
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Oh, thought it was the counter

frail veldt
gaunt phoenix
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if you "will lose" 0

frail veldt
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Or does will lose mean how many less buffs you'll have

gaunt phoenix
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so like when you press kir you will lose 0, cause you just pressed kir

frail veldt
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So if you have LD up and you have 3 red buffs you'd roll?

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Cuz that's a will lose of 1

gaunt phoenix
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in this case that's a will lose of 3

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you might roll those same buffs again, but you will lose them first

frail veldt
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Oh okay so then you only do a non LD roll if you have 0 red buffs

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Gotcha

white marten
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Any1 having success with fatebound 2+2 in m+? Haven’t bothered to try it yet.

frail veldt
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I'm surprised we wouldn't just roll at will lose of 1 without LD for the value of supercharger

gaunt phoenix
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you can

frail veldt
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Is that really not worth the global?

gaunt phoenix
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no it's fine

frail veldt
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Cuz that says to roll only at will lose 0

gaunt phoenix
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rtb_buffs.will_lose<=buff.loaded_dice.up

compared to

rtb_buffs.will_lose<=1

is the same result, i went with LD

frail veldt
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Aaaah interesting

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Fasho, intuitively it always made sense to just roll if you expect to either keep the same number of buffs or go up in buff count on average

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So if expected_buffs_received >= expected_buffs_to_be_lost is true then roll

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Which sounds like it's still true

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That makes it easy

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I just count the red buffs and roll if that count won't go down

gaunt phoenix
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it just happens that rolling over 1 buff or waiting to turn 1 buff into 2 buffs is the same shit

frail veldt
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Makes sense

untold yarrow
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Daily reminder about conduct in the workplace (LFG tool)

gaunt phoenix
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true

vivid vessel
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@near rock ok maybe if you cleave on the ranged add

daring pivot
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Hello completly new to outlow and hust read the wowhead guide i have 2 questions
First one do we never use Slice and Dice at all ? i dont see it anywhere in the rotation
I don't understand this "Roll the Bones if you have 0 buffs. With Loaded Dice active reroll at 2 or less buffs. Cast ONCE immediately after using Keep It Rolling."
Why should we use roll the bones after using keep it rolling will it not refresh my dice and make it only 30 sec ?

vivid vessel
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im talking about

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forgerewaver

frail veldt
vivid vessel
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or whatever

gaunt phoenix
# daring pivot Hello completly new to outlow and hust read the wowhead guide i have 2 questions...
  1. you dont really use slice and dice, it is automatically casted by dispatch. sometimes you refresh it between pulls or when out of range

  2. when you press KIR, your buffs are essentially locked in and cannot be rolled away by the next roll

so you KIR 4 buffs, and then you roll. you might get one of the buffs you are missing, or you might get a buff you already have, but either way it is worth to roll once for supercharger

frail veldt
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So you can ignore it

bright crane
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Dude every single drop I’ve gotten so far is haste mastery

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Is the game is telling me to play sin?

quaint plover
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!gear

unique echo
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yoyo guys can someone tell me if he has the same bug as me cause i always get knocked out of stealth on bosspull of demensius but the assa rogue in my guild doesnt have the same problem

bright crane
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Are you FB and pressing AR while targeting boss?

unique echo
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no

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i pressing it prepull but not while targeting anything

cold tide
unique echo
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*im

gaunt phoenix
unique echo
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yiks

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aight thx

gaunt phoenix
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apparently they did not account for this

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel is this uncapped or

vivid vessel
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idk about any trinket uncapped

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its all split damage

white marten
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1s channel?! Rip adr uptime

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Its over, undoubtedly.

prisma vessel
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so this thing.... pumps!

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right?

timid idol
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i have 2p2p can i drop the old 2p if the ilvl difference between the items is 50 ilvls?

gaunt phoenix
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@vivid vessel @proven ocean cursed stone idol is true uncapped, no split

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well its prob capped at 20

olive beacon
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Since this stupid stone statue is a channel and breaks stealth where do you use it in the opener

gaunt phoenix
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after stealth, before ks

gaunt phoenix
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no mainstat so it baits you on details a bit

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at 5 minutes it seems whatever, though at certain kill timers and perhaps good crit RNG it can be great

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or use during amps

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and still pray it crits

vivid vessel
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bro

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not a single zenith dropped

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in our hc raid

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its so over

prisma vessel
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so its queen trinket again xD

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also i got it out of TW box

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so free trinket

strong halo
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So i have 4 set ready to convert i just dont know if i full send assas or outlaw with craft

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im legit in the middle

gaunt phoenix
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outlaw !

prisma vessel
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yeah i got 3 hero pieces ready

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too

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but will wait on vault

vivid vessel
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i guess i got the dh boots, prism and sigil..

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its so over

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no 4p week 1

prisma vessel
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rip

vivid vessel
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imma have to play full nm 4p

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so cursed

wooden herald
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We not using bubbling wax anymore for AOE?

gaunt phoenix
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i havent looked at it in 8 months im ngl

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its probably fine

wooden herald
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I've BEEN using it but just looked up the 'Enchants' and it doesn't mention it so ... wondering if needed.

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Or which is better... and if so, by how much. It's prob negligable on which you use honestly idk lol

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You guys use double radiant power or 1/1 for weapon enchant?

gaunt phoenix
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i just use radiant everywhere

wooden herald
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yeah i was using dbl but just crafted weapon so curious as to if ppl 2 or 1/1

gaunt phoenix
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use 2

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maybe if you are progging on pure ST like fractillus

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should go 2 depths

wooden herald
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meh i pug everything prob wont be pugging myth frac in awhile

gilded summit
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can i use duskthread lining for embelishment?

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on wow head it says its my bis

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to craft weapon with it

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but i cant chose this embelishment

balmy topaz
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!fuu

ornate heathBOT
sudden fulcrum
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I doubt it says duskthread on weapon is BiS because you can’t do that

gilded summit
sudden fulcrum
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Yeah it says use that as an alternative (not on weapon obviously because you can’t do that)

gilded summit
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i m new to wow sorry

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what do i go on weapon when i play m+ only

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still elemental focusing lens?

untold yarrow
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idk if uploads are allowed, but I am having giga input lag issues. its hard to explain and show from the video, but you can see when im pressing buttons, the WA doesn't update, there is a delay. This makes the spec unplayable for me atm and i have no clue wtf is causing it. any ideas?

I tried changing the spell queue window but that did not help.

In game ping: 25ms

unique fulcrum
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surely assa will get nerfed, right

strong halo
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is there a way to sim curioo?

vivid vessel
strong halo
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or do i just add 5 pieces

unique fulcrum
untold yarrow
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!wa

strong halo
strong halo
gaunt phoenix
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embellishment damage is minimal. it doesnt matter a whole lot

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We recommend lens everywhere but duskthread is technically fine

potent chasm
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how should you use the extra charge of coup de grace from our teir set? just send it right away, or build it up as much as you can?

zenith egret
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Anyone over there have a WA to track Fractillus trinket stack ? 🙂

gaunt phoenix
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but you build if you can build with PS/BF/AR/GS

tight kernel
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Tell me that's beautiful

gaunt phoenix
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not enough !

tight kernel
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What

gaunt phoenix
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19.05% is the cap

tight kernel
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Im trolling

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Im trolling okay brb

vivid vessel
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solo

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i swear

gaunt phoenix
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griefing

vivid vessel
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our current 4p is op

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i dont get it

cedar kernel
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hi

vivid vessel
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i feel like i do so much damage

balmy topaz
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What for outlaw

vivid vessel
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witrh current tier

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vs what i was doing on ptr

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with 30 more ilvl

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with new 4p

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idkkkkkk

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current 4p is so easy to just

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keep 6buff forever

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once you started

cedar kernel
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brothers i misclicked some link

vivid vessel
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you got hacked or

cedar kernel
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almost got me hacked

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yea

mighty flume
gaunt phoenix
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idk

tight kernel
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okay solo best I can do rn

cedar kernel
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at least i got it back

balmy topaz
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Was it mr beast

cedar kernel
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before bot disturbing u guys

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but a lots of channel got deleted

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no clue why bots will do that

strong halo
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what is PS again

vivid vessel
cedar kernel
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how about this

tight kernel
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or natty

untold yarrow
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does anyone use SUF and ahve issues with that shit resetting on reload

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position

vivid vessel
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ye

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but no

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do you have atrocity stuffs

untold yarrow
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idk why it keeps resetting

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idek that is

cedar kernel
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no

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nattty

glass timber
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does incorporeal warpclaw need something special to be S tier? it sims lower than my other trinekts with lower ilvl which are c and b tier

gaunt phoenix
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can you link what you are seeing?

gaunt phoenix
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that delve trinket is pretty solid. it can only be hero track tho

frail veldt
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1:30 sim

gaunt phoenix
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that doesnt matter

frail veldt
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maybe thast why

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oh

hybrid crown
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Could on use trinket CD and icd not mess with that?

gaunt phoenix
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though it perhaps inflates that burst trinket

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you also are really low on haste for this build, so that burst trinket looks way better

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because you need the haste on it

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so tldr, the delve trinket is pretty good and could be rated higher, and that burst trinket is inflated a bit in this scenario

vivid vessel
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@near rock @daring oxide @fathom bramble you guys noticed you can bte/ps the other bosses in intermission of dh boss

balmy topaz
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Well they are flying

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wdym

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ofc

craggy barn
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bro have they fixed the portal shit yet

vivid vessel
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wdym wdym

balmy topaz
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They are just above no?

vivid vessel
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i dont think it was obvious

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ye

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i didnt know till i did the boss on outlaw today

balmy topaz
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ahh

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Ye tbf it's not really obvious

vivid vessel
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if ytou guys knew why didnt you tell me

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?

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ruby

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answer

gaunt phoenix
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zac

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crackshot can proc cto right?

vivid vessel
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olos

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ye of course

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with a 10min delay

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so you cant react to it

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but ye

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i love pressing bte > kir > cto proc

cedar kernel
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unholy still sick

white marten
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1st big pull with lust, probably

balmy topaz
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So we can't start last boss in stealtg

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that's so cool

white marten
vivid vessel
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you can

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just not with subt

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get owned

sullen wyvern
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wasnt this talent like 50% before?

white marten
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🤣

vivid vessel
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bf was 50 befroe

sullen wyvern
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oh right

cedar kernel
wintry solar
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"You're spilling out coins, that's pretty cool"

lime lake
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i was wondering why i was fine on assa but people were complaining

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classic subterfuge bug

cedar sun
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Anyone know why i cant moun on my rogue during the dragon riding fase on Dimensius ?

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happened 2 times now

tight kernel
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12 flood we blasting team

deep cedar
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hey guys

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is there

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a way to alter what tank i use tott

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on with the macro / weakaura from this server?

craggy barn
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go into custom options and insert name/server

quaint plover
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!gear

craggy barn
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im pretty sure it also prefers ur selected friendly target if u have one

red zinc
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Ay man the last time we got a hole in the sky (new teaser trailer shows void sky portal) we got the best expansion of all time (shadowlands)

lime lake
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xalatath is molag bal

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confirmed

desert tendon
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yo rando question since i m not playing anymore

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do you lose stealth when u take the portal on dimensius? At the start?

vivid vessel
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@gaunt phoenix

desert tendon
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cant be right, blizzard havent done that to rogue right? kekdog

vivid vessel
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you are so right

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this last boss is so ass

desert tendon
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how ass?

vivid vessel
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boring

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tindral flying

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but worse

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add intermissions

digital linden
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its so sad too cuz the design is so clean

vivid vessel
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that are ass

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cause

desert tendon
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it got not testings right?

vivid vessel
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every add intermission

desert tendon
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like gally?

vivid vessel
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is boring

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since the dawn of times

quaint sable
desert tendon
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i mean visually the boss looks hecking great

quaint sable
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in raid I use mouseover then let it do its thing in dungeons

vivid vessel
vivid vessel
desert tendon
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yea so like gally

vivid vessel
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it looks super good

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thats about it tho

desert tendon
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expect something badly tune

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and idk

vivid vessel
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also i cant see shit p1

desert tendon
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well

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dragonriding in raid looks bad

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you cant see shit if someone is behind you in front of your cam

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xD

vivid vessel
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peep the p1

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you see nothing

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cause dude

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have big ass hands

desert tendon
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LMFAO

vivid vessel
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its like

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xd??

desert tendon
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good one

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you have to be that close?

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dont tell me

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his hitbox is that shit

vivid vessel
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ye

lime lake
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his hitbox is a bit small yeah

quaint sable
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his hitbox in p1 is p shit

vivid vessel
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hitbox is that shit

lime lake
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should definitely be way bigger

quaint sable
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u need to stand on the egde of the soak to be able to hit him and soak

desert tendon
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yea that s an issue

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you should be able to see your char through his hand at least

vivid vessel
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idk i dont get the boss xd

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i hope its better in mythic

desert tendon
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you have that settings enable right?

vivid vessel
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cause that shit

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is one of the worse boss

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i have ever done

desert tendon
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well zac

vivid vessel
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i feel like

desert tendon
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as said

vivid vessel
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its

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idk

desert tendon
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if it s like gally

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dont expect too much

vivid vessel
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they spent so much budget on the visuals

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and the boss is just ass

desert tendon
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but so zac

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u didnt answer my first question

vivid vessel
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no i dont see my guy

desert tendon
lime lake
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i like the boss

quaint sable
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p2 is almost syvl intermission again just a tad shorter and dragon riding 😄

vivid vessel
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yes if you play outlaw censi

lime lake
vivid vessel
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cause subt

desert tendon
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so they really did that

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well

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gg

vivid vessel
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????????????

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bro

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its like

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they took all the worse intermissions we ever had

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and merged them together

desert tendon
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yea and u cant even snd bug unlike in sylv p2

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sylv p2 was actually good

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no cap

quaint sable
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Ye add fight with dragon riding and aids thing to dodge where u need to violently spin ur camaera

vivid vessel
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oultaw is gonna be so goddam shit on this boss

desert tendon
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i think in this raid from what i ve seen so far

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outlaw will be very bad

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lot of amp damage

dense bridge
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i found a trinket but it is unlisted on the tier list, is it that bad

quaint sable
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And a lot of downtime

worldly shale
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is sigil

quaint sable
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where u cant hit shit

worldly shale
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giga bis

dense bridge
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it is the mind fracturing odium

random stirrup
tribal pagoda
random stirrup
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precise cuts is kind of strong

vivid vessel
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eh

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its fake imo

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at least in hc

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playing pc on the "pc bosses"

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outside of dh boss

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is just pad ?

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i dont see the point

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maybe in mythic you need add damage

desert tendon
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bahahah

random stirrup
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im thinking in mythic you will need add damage ya

desert tendon
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hope for an outlaw rework

random stirrup
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maybe not with ilvl and tier set gains upcoming

balmy topaz
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Bro

desert tendon
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wait @vivid vessel

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one of your sham is named shamouranth? xD

balmy topaz
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On these ST fights in raid

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we suck so much

desert tendon
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This dude a genius

vivid vessel
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but never on forgweaver

vivid vessel
dense bridge
desert tendon
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issue with outlaw is that it s not bad at all

pure jetty
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Do i need combo points before using the 4p second coup de grace?

desert tendon
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right

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it s actually not bad at all

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just doesnt work in modern raiding where they put random burn phase on every boss and make the game more CD focused overall

dense bridge
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it does decent numbers but just feels kinda like dump to play

hybrid crown
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But classes with CDs beat us in DPS when they pop their cds

strong halo
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Ive committed to the cause

ember goblet
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I’ve been deciding should I full send outlaw with a crafted wep or hold off to see how comp it will be

desert tendon
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well

frail veldt
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this is outlaw discord

desert tendon
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if you wanna play outlaw you do outlaw stuff

frail veldt
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anyone who says anything but "go outlaw" is an outsider

desert tendon
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if you wanna be meta you craft a dagger like the 3492 last seasons

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and you ll play outlaw in reclears later

hybrid crown
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I made my 720 wep yesterday

frail veldt
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if you want to play the meta spec I would suggest not playing outlaw lol

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just in general

hybrid crown
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Felt so nice that next key

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Huge gains

frail veldt
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its almost never meta for raid and its rarely meta for keys outside of niche comps

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but outlaw is fun af

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so who cares

dense bridge
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why did they take away bfa and sl outlaw

frail veldt
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cuz it was bad

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well SL outlaw had good things

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bfa outlaw was strong not well designed

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imo*

desert tendon
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bfa outlaw was not fun

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just strong

frail veldt
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people confuse the two

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yeah

desert tendon
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it has its fun but nothing near to current outlaw

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like i said

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outlaw is great right now i think, no cap

frail veldt
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yeah

desert tendon
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just doesnt fit well in modern game design

frail veldt
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outlaw plays amazingly right now

hybrid crown
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RTB costing CPs was so awful

frail veldt
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it honestly feels amazing

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KS still has its issues

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and we still have downtime issues

dense bridge
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all id want right now is shadow dance

frail veldt
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but its better than its ever been imo

frail veldt
dense bridge
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comfy

frail veldt
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2 charge vanish is objectively better for gameplay

desert tendon
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specially since now crackshot exists

frail veldt
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shadow dance didnt interact with cdr and it didnt allow for being able to delay vanishes/dances for other things

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2 charge vanish has added amazing flexibility to our rotation

desert tendon
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i dont hate on crakshot at all but holy i liked SL outlaw

frail veldt
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that was previously super heavily punished for any delay

desert tendon
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er / dust happy_holiday_pepe

frail veldt
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now we can actually delay vanish af if we want

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and it barely matters

ember goblet
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I mean you got a point I probably wouldn’t consider assass only sub so yeah when we get on we crafting the wep bois

cedar kernel
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huh?

frail veldt
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grats

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whats so huh

cedar kernel
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i dont think

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i could get

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always bad luck my lord

frail veldt
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what happend idgi

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did you not get the trinket?

cinder relic
frail veldt
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oh or youre saying youre just surprised you got it

cinder relic
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Later bosses will be a struggle

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early bosses seem solid for outlaw

glass timber
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does the nightfall crudge sim properly now?

frail veldt
cedar kernel
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haste overcapped

cinder relic
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first 6 seem fine for outlaw

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Maybe not forgeweaver

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But it depends

frail veldt
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lol

craggy barn
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idk guys i think we gonna get nerfed 😛

cedar kernel
frail veldt
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fast KS

glass timber
desert tendon
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maybe you re right guy, as said i dont play this tier i m only watching my guild a bit and it feels like sub / assa could be better on everything

frail veldt
desert tendon
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is there a world where you stack rogue in current tuning?

cinder relic
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I think rogue is sleeper OP

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Lol

frail veldt
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dslice properly accounts for vanishes triggering cudgel resets

glass timber
craggy barn
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sleeper huh

cinder relic
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Literally nobody is talking abt it but sin seems absurd

frail veldt
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afaik

craggy barn
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no one is talking about it bc affliction

frail veldt
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sin seems like SSS tier

craggy barn
frail veldt
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esp in keys

craggy barn
desert tendon
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beacause outlaw dmg profile still has a lot of value

craggy barn
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the affi gap is insane

cinder relic
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well aff is literally the best spec in the game

frail veldt
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yeah its not even close haha

desert tendon
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assa in aoe is just dumb rn it feels like

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in ST looks great but not dumb, just a solid podium

cedar kernel
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the coin bug made outlaw ST extremely high

desert tendon
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which is nothing new garf

frail veldt
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hopefully we dont get hit

frail veldt
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cuz im almost certain if they try to adjust our ST they wont un-nerf our bladeflurry

vivid vessel
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i havent seen it yet

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havent tested sin

cinder relic
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in raid ya

desert tendon
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i think sin has real potential

cinder relic
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It might be one of the best melee dps tbqh

frail veldt
cinder relic
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Like actually better than FDK

desert tendon
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like probably sin in most fights and sub on one or two fights

vivid vessel
desert tendon
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the oppposite of last tier

random stirrup
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sin is olp

vivid vessel
cedar kernel
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i still remember

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zac at Dawnbreaker

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doing sin

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cant imagine if Dawnbreaker is a S2 dg

desert tendon
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imagine danwbreaker

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with old ks

cedar kernel
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💀 each time we use KS we will fall off

desert tendon
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yea and in 2nd part you would pull everything

cedar kernel
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i am doing sneaky pushing and not uploading WCL

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i think i need to get rid of some rank

red zinc
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BEEG PUSH

desert tendon
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bac going r1

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stealing zero's fake crown

cedar kernel
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nah censi i cant

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no way i could get

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i am noob

desert tendon
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fk

cedar kernel
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okay i am going to change my name

desert tendon
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we need someone to make zeross stop yapping

uneven meteor
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is it worth switching to new Set with 2 pieces?

quaint plover
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!gear

vivid vessel
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11.2.5 already on ptr @gaunt phoenix

#

maybe ks rework?

red zinc
#

Unc thinks they will do class changes

vivid vessel
#

well they forgot in 11.2

#

maybe this time

past pond
#

!fuu

ornate heathBOT
pure jetty
#

Bro after getting 4p i dropped to 15% haste, im cooked

vivid vessel
#

!fuu'

#

!fuu

ornate heathBOT
unique fulcrum
#

do you guys like the new 4p more than the old one?

hasty warren
#

me rn

#

playing all the day outlaw for no loot

tired rune
#

undead

keen belfry
#

@vivid vessel what if played fatebound in a streets

vivid vessel
#

ye it prolly can work

#

you pull a lot of adds on first boss tho

#

but other than that basically every ohtter boss gonna be full st

#

but then you do way less aoe

#

so hm idk

frail veldt
#

I personally really liked the higher rtb odds

unique fulcrum
#

yee, but double coupe might be fun too

frail veldt
#

eh

cinder relic
#

But yeah

frail veldt
#

its just another chore you have to do before getting back into vanish imo

cinder relic
#

I think sin is legit better than FDK tbqh

#

For raid DPS

frail veldt
#

double coup is strong for sure though it ups our adr even more

keen belfry
grizzled saddle
#

I am confused, outlaw wants 3 crafted items now? can we not only wear 2 embelished?

dim widget
#

2 embellish but as many crafted as you have sparks

balmy topaz
#

Got this bad boy HOLY

desert tendon
#

Ruby gonna beat zac now

#

Gg

#

Zac you re done

#

Tomdelvis is coming for ya

balmy topaz
#

That goes hard

#

Tomdelvis

frail veldt
balmy topaz
#

I was 688ilvl

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now I am 700

#

finally

tight kernel
#

I need smarter people than me to say something

light dune
#

after a perfect KIR is it still worth to wait for the reroll until things are at like 41 seconds remaining?

fair oak
gritty hamlet
#

you can buy a champ Footbomb today for 2000 undercoin

fair oak
#

Gn outlaw chat

light dune
white marten
gritty hamlet
#

eh?

white marten
#

Oh. Sorry i thought you were an avid football fan

gritty hamlet
#

I'm actually debating if it's worth doing a delve and spending that many for a champ item.

spring bay
#

Is it that much better than champ pacemaker and warpclaw?

balmy topaz
#

So close

frail veldt
frail veldt
white marten
#

im 687 🥲

balmy topaz
gaunt phoenix
#

perhaps because natty 5 buffs simply dont happen in enough sim iterations

balmy topaz
#

It was our first raid today

cedar kernel
#

dead i found street is pretty hard

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like extremely hard

late swallow
#

Hey bac peepo_smile

cedar kernel
#

hi som

light dune
#

thats vinteresting

frank finch
light dune
#

does fatebound care aobut killing spree cd? like If I proc an RP CTO I wanna vanish regardless if KS is available is that correct

cedar kernel
#

guys does the street is a hell

#

i found others are fine except street, the time is too less

gaunt phoenix
#

if you kir 5 normal buffs + 1 cto and then roll

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if your roll picks the cto buff then you can technically roll again

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cause then you still have 5 buffs ahead of the container

balmy topaz
#

O no solo

gaunt phoenix
#

or it just doesnt happen enough to move the sim average

balmy topaz
#

I just checked

light dune
#

ah that makes sense

balmy topaz
#

Fuu sheet

#

WE run the channell trinket NOOOO

gaunt phoenix
#

yeh its good

#

uncapped

#

big critties

cedar kernel
#

Stone Idol?

gaunt phoenix
#

yea

cedar kernel
#

hum i havent get it yetOS_BigWeary

balmy topaz
#

Need to farm it

gaunt phoenix
#

fatebound doesnt worry about the ks cd

#

you technically CAN and it's not really a dps loss

#

but not an expected gain either

cedar kernel
#

i want pluagestorm return

#

maybe next season

#

we will see

fathom bramble
#

bring back underrot

cedar kernel
#

xdd a week 35 times farming for pluagestorm

#

lokt

#

do u think street need nerf

#

why i tried 5 times

#

all of them are failed

fathom bramble
#

we finally got it after quite a few attempts

#

I think it needs a longer timer is all

plush basalt
#

!commonerrors

ornate heathBOT
cedar kernel
#

yea the time is too tie

fathom bramble
#

nothing sticks out as a real problem other than the insanely short timer for a 5 boss

pure jetty
#

so should i build to 6/7combo points before I use the 2nd coup de grace from 4p?

gaunt phoenix
#

You sent it early if you would have to build with ss

#

but you build if you would pistol shot/ar/bf/gs

lost condor
#

Keep or sell for 2M5? 🤔

wintry solar
#

last boss is really fun tbh

#

if youre not outlaw

#

lemme point that out

lost condor
#

im outlaw

wintry solar
#

I did pulls on both outlaw and not outlaw

cedar kernel
#

i think it depends on u

#

like if u need gold to keep pushing

wintry solar
#

Bac why noob?

cedar kernel
#

then sell it

#

bc its the truth

#

popo

wintry solar
#

naw

#

youre King

lost condor
#

p hard choice

gaunt phoenix
#

You sent it early if you would have to build with ss

#

but you build if you would pistol shot/ar/bf/gs

pure jetty
#

ah I see thanks

plush basalt
#

!log

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel ! when RWF starts?!?!

#

!

#

oh

#

max saying tmrw

#

100%

vivid vessel
#

ye

#

friday

#

mid/end of day prolly

cedar kernel
#

what is RWF

vivid vessel
#

race

cedar kernel
#

oh

vivid vessel
cinder relic
cedar kernel
#

will u attend

#

my gear is too fall behind

#

humm i need to get some champion gears before doing 10+

#

gg

#

so bad the gear

lime lake
jolly geyser
#

sylvanas shoots him by mistake

proven ocean
#

700 equip ez

cedar kernel
#

gg

#

thats nasty fr

serene solstice
#

Hello, if i have old set, when to replace ? 2 or 4 ?

#

all old set items ilvl 665

gaunt phoenix
#

fatebound uses 2 immediately

#

trickster should probably keep old 4

serene solstice
#

M+ Tricks
Raid ST Fatebound and cleave Trick ?

gaunt phoenix
#

Yes but also the last 2 bosses are looking fatebound favored

#

despite some aoe

serene solstice
#

well, so Raid mainly fate which means new 2set atleast
for M+ Trick stick to old one until 4/4

gaunt phoenix
#

ya

lost condor
#

!loot

random stirrup
vivid vessel
#

enchant your legs

tight kernel
#

massive drop

austere mantle
#

we may have just hit the jackpot lads...

sullen wyvern
#

Finally

green elm
#

héhé thank timewalking

worldly shale
#

is this normal?

#

over warpclaw?

#

by like 50k

gaunt phoenix
#

ya

glass mortar
#

rnt those the two listed as our likely bis/strongest trinkets?

#

doesnt seem surprising

sullen wyvern
#

do we really need that much crit as outlaw?

glass mortar
#

no

gaunt phoenix
sullen wyvern
#

I thought we had enough for us to need trinkets like antenna or pacemaker

glass mortar
#

i think its just overbudgeted

worldly shale
#

its just that warpclaw stayed in my head

#

from somewhere

spark relic
#

!fuu

ornate heathBOT
sullen wyvern
#

hey hear me out guys

#

crackshot should proc your CdG

wintry solar
#

in case any of you were interested in Outlaw in remix, the artifact ability reduces your CDs

proven ocean
#

thats probably the shittiest thing for outlaw ngl

#

or maybe ig u can keep 6 buffs forever?

#

idk

#

but thats DH so

#

i guess its for everyone maybe

wintry solar
#

DH?

frank finch
#

midnight in janurary incoming

wintry solar
#

everyone has the same tree

proven ocean
#

dreadblades is havoc artifact weapon

#

from legion

#

or?

#

is it outlaw

#

idk

wintry solar
#

Dreadblades is outlaw

proven ocean
#

ah ye

#

outlaw

wintry solar
#

well

#

on the bright side

#

you can talent into whatever and it doesnt make a fuck

cedar kernel
#

omg

#

all my

#

gear drop

#

is the same slot

#

💀

#

3 helmet 2 Belts 2 Neck and 4 Shouder

late swallow
#

october 7th remix HOLY

plush basalt
#

i fucking suck at this class man, how do people get like twice as many between the eyes than me xD

torpid fiber
#

absurd amounts of practice

wintry solar
willow portal
#

are havoc and enhance just better dps in m+? this was a 10 floodgate

late swallow
wintry solar
#

I have my ways

torpid fiber
wintry solar
#

(remix is on ptr)

#

11.2.5

late swallow
#

oh shit that's right

covert kestrel
late swallow
#

are you playing it rn?

wintry solar
#

yeah

late swallow
#

what's bronze acquisition like?

#

still the same shit? scenarios/dungs/raids?

covert kestrel
#

i like the bird

torpid fiber
wintry solar
late swallow
wintry solar
#

yeah

#

spec doesnt work till 70

#

we press on

late swallow
#

does that mean that turbo boost starts on the 7th too?

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel TURBO BOOST RETURNS FOR SEASON 3
Hero and Myth upgrade tracks will extend from 6 to 8 steps with the initial release of 11.2.5, and crafted items will be recraftable with an Augmentation Matrix for additional power.
Soon after 11.2.5:
Fixer So’kir and Fixer So’tho will visit Dornogal to offer powerful weapons, trinkets, and cantrip items from Season 3 dungeons and Manaforge Omega in exchange for Puzzling Cartel Chips after adventurers have proved themselves worthy. Once again, up to three Puzzling Cartel Chips may be earned as the season progresses.
Ethereal Voidsplinters may be earned in Mythic+ dungeons, Manaforge Omega, Delves, and rated PvP to fuel the Catalyst.
Warbound until Equipped gear drop rates from Mythic+ dungeons and Manaforge Omega are greatly increased.
Valorstones may now be transferred across Warbands.
Item level 694 delve trinkets may now be purchased from Zah’ran.

vivid vessel
#

ok bro

proven ocean
#

dinars too sheesh

vivid vessel
#

go to sleep cuh

proven ocean
#

Item level 694 delve trinkets may now be purchased from Zah’ran.

#

wait this issick

proven ocean
sullen wyvern
#

give us 18 dinars this time please

proven ocean
#

told u i cant play bnefore 100% zac

#

only 12

#

impossible befor

#

its just a friday thing so ye

late swallow
tight kernel
covert kestrel
#

ez

torpid fiber
#

not even close

wintry solar
#

I hope there are legendaries or something

#

big doubt tho

copper radish
#

hear me out for keys with FB....just take dancing steel and thats all it needs. no deft no pc

glass mortar
#

deft is quite large for kir in aoe

#

sustain aoe anyway

glass mortar
#

actually that was s1 before they weakened it in s2 so maybe it isnt as large as it was havent simmed it in a minute

random stirrup
#

didnt it get even stronger after the deft fix

#

the button press itself is pretty good

glass mortar
#

idk

#

it was bad enough HO should never even consider it when it was considerable before so

proven ocean
#

oh

#

i lied

#

702

late swallow
#

insane

#

hero track pace maker and priory already

#

sheeeeeeeesh

cedar kernel
#

what time is it now

vivid vessel
#

1am

cedar kernel
#

yepthink pretty early right

#

oh wait its not saturday

proven ocean
#

:yepthink:

wintry solar
#

I dont want to be that guy

cedar kernel
#

i need to have some cafe

wintry solar
#

but

#

the remix rewards kinda suck

cedar kernel
#

i am sleepy af

wintry solar
#

from the vendors anyway

copper radish
wintry solar
#

not even recolors of existing sets

#

so far the scythes and the horses are the only thing worth

#

so like

#

not only do I not get dreadblades back (which I expected ) but I dont even get to farm for new nighthold and antorus sets

proven ocean
hearty grove
#

Hello, I've been very confused as to why our Fatebound 2pc simms insanely high, on paper it seems very underwhelming and yet simms promise upwards of 16% increase (from Ulria's tier sheet) when going 2+2. Does anyone know what makes it so powerful?

wintry solar
#

yeah the scythes and the horses are cool

past light
#

Hello is there any reason to cancel new killing spree channeling with Vanish ?

hollow thunder
#

So I just got 4 set, with 2 Escelating Blade Stacks and 2 Safe stacks from KS im gonna do double coupe before vanish, right?

proven ocean
#

Popo ur cooked sometimes

wintry solar
#

wdym

#

I was hoping theyd have the black and red nighthold set for DK that never made it to live

gaunt phoenix
#

We use ghostly strike and adrenaline rush so often

buoyant cosmos
gaunt phoenix
#

and they give you 2 of each coin

proven ocean
gaunt phoenix
#

From stealth opener they give you 6/6 coins

#

thats 6 tails procs

wintry solar
#

also

#

I havent came across XP buffs

elder phoenix
#

I heard assassin is the meta this season

#

is this true

proven ocean
hearty grove
gaunt phoenix
#

the 2nd part

hearty grove
#

oh I see

vivid vessel
#

Solo

#

Do you believe me

#

If I tell you I have always been so uninterested in fatebound

buoyant cosmos
vivid vessel
#

I still don't understand how all the coin thing works

#

I never tried to understand it all

austere mantle
#

just press buttons man

wintry solar
proven ocean
hearty grove
# gaunt phoenix

mb when reading the gap made it look like it's part of 4pc and somehow missed the entire part xD thx a lot for the help and patience :3

gaunt phoenix
#

at least the coin mechanics hardly matters except for bug abuse

wintry solar
#

theres like

#

7 different goats

vivid vessel
#

Bug abuse wtf bro HOLY

#

Not in my outlaw channel

buoyant cosmos
#

zac is the most ethical gamer here

#

never once ever used game mechanics cleverly

proven ocean
#

What the helly

vivid vessel
#

Yes true

#

Never abused any bug

#

zeross on the other hand

#

Idk if you guys heard of him

proven ocean
#

Nono me no bug abuse

vivid vessel
#

Most bug abuser abuser in the game

proven ocean
#

Wait im not zeross fuck

#

Im chickensoup

#

Ye true bog bug abuser

wintry solar
#

I abuse bugs. I see a bug I go "get outa here bug!"

vivid vessel
#

@proven ocean

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel im so hyped for this season

#

What

vivid vessel
#

We dropped 0 hc tier of my thing in my split

proven ocean
#

WTF

#

0

cedar kernel
#

got cursed

#

i dont mind taking the curse

#

give it to me zac

vivid vessel
#

Haha

#

It's alright

#

Still have normal split

buoyant cosmos
#

Did you scoop something from vault for 2pc?

vivid vessel
#

And hc last boss curio

#

We good

#

Ye I have a normal piece in vault

#

But it's normal I got unlucky

elder phoenix
#

man

proven ocean
#

Zac

buoyant cosmos
#

still pumping

#

all good

proven ocean
#

U think we’ll avoid nerfs? Like enh?

#

Or

vivid vessel
#

Assa ?

proven ocean
#

Ya

vivid vessel
#

Idk

#

It's kinda a lot

proven ocean
#

Cuz we dont seem op at all in raid

vivid vessel
#

Haha

#

Ye

#

It's fine in raid

#

But in m+

#

Honestly

#

Might be the most op a spec been this season or ?

proven ocean
#

They can easily giga nerf it in m+ without even hitting on raid at all

vivid vessel
#

Nvm enhance in s1

#

Was better

proven ocean
#

Our aoe is almost as good but

#

St is dog

vivid vessel
#

Ye

#

That's why it might be safe

#

But like dog is a big word tbf

#

It still does like outlaw st kekw

proven ocean
#

It is dog idk

#

Maybe we’re both dogs

#

And need buffs

vivid vessel
#

Woof

proven ocean
#

Woof

vivid vessel
#

Assa need big buffs fr fr

#

Blizzard..

proven ocean
#

Fr fr

vivid vessel
#

But like at least you can always just pull on bosses

#

So it's not that bad

proven ocean
#

Ye

#

Feels nice to do high keys again ngl

#

Fun af

quaint sable
#

!gear

frail veldt
#

!gear

proven ocean
#

Wemo…

buoyant cosmos
#

fuu doing the lords work

stiff vector
#

fml my gear is so down bad until I loot trinkets and 1 tier piece so i cata the other get my 4p ICANT

elder phoenix
#

n ngl i like outlaw but I like getting invited to m+ rather fast

#

QQ

daring yoke
#

Zac how do we not break stealth when starting Dimensius 😭

frail veldt
#

!fuu

ornate heathBOT
plush basalt
#

!wa

vivid vessel
#

what are stun removal effects

#

is it legit just human racial

proven ocean
#

Probably ye

#

It does big dam tho still tho or

vivid vessel
#

insane change

#

im rerolling human

torpid fiber
#

equip pvp medallion

vivid vessel
#

noob

proven ocean
#

Cheating spec…

daring yoke
#

is there a cheat not to break stealth when starting dimensius fight?

torpid fiber
daring yoke
#

fuuuck

vivid vessel
#

this fight is actually crazy lol

#

so fucking bad for outlaw

#

its wild

#

just need a dmaage amp

#

is there not a damage amp

#

i forgot

gaunt phoenix
#

there is

proven ocean
#

That fight is bad for assa too idk

torpid fiber
#

I think there is

proven ocean
#

Cant play deathstalker maybe but i havent tried it

gaunt phoenix
#

after platforms

random stirrup
#

ya start of p3

proven ocean
#

Ionly fatebounded it i think

vivid vessel
#

fb is like 10% ahead in st