#outlaw
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Idk how they didn't implode

Are you america?
budy think there is no delay
So we are just dropping slurs now?
fuck clankers
Shit ill have a go
@vivid vessel wanna know my plan for tier
nah im good
So ill be making a 30 man normal
And running down the bosses

I am the pug lord
no zenith drops anyway
@red zinc improbable
Zenith has lower drop rate i vibamined it from the files
they want to beat the melee comp so bad 
34% chance for zenith
not as good as u guys are in priory @vivid vessel
Bolt chucking, copper sucking, clankers
At 1.5 drops per raid the chance of bo zenith is 34%
The chance of me getting zenith is 34%
The chance of you imploding spontaneously within the next 24 hours are 2.17%
I vibecrafted
Have you done the math
well they ended up smashing our timer by like 1min but it took them 2 weeks so, im not too mad about that haha
Chatgpt said i have .01% chance to not have 4 set by end of day
we had like
ye was good
If i kill every boss
dude ngl
melee comp is way more badass
these guys use voice and tryhard for weeks
just to beat a non voice no stops comp

Melee comp is for high T hands
xdd
I mean most likely they ban add-ons instead and then we can't play anymore so
Xd
Imagine doing no voice kicks without kick tracker
Monka
mechanically speaking is there any difference between new and old ks?
flurry or positioning implications etc
they are working toward that tho
We would die like ffxiv
they aint banning addons
there's probably a lot of internal pressure for this, I think blizz gave up in the mechanics wa arms race
they dont want to keep making wa bosses that are cringe
So make wa bosses that arnt cringe
they cant
like i think the future of wow is thye remove all the combat event readers, so you cant do things like bigwigs, most weak aura etc, and then they let addon skin visually things, so you should be able to skin a cooldown manager to look like your current class pack basically, but you wont have more info
Theyve done it before
wa solve the bosses and trivialise it
when they do it ends up being the most WA boss of all time
because its made so hard that the good WA makes it a joke
Neltharion
yeah this is my theory
also they'll probably add stuff like boss timelines baseline and shit
Lol
thing is dialing back difficulty and remove WA is VERY scary
legit might kill the game
i dont mind on bigwigs
they already said they were doing that
no*
yeah defs
well you will have ingame bigwigs
but ppl don't read the interviews 
they said as mucch
ah
@vague cape dialing back difficulty already nearly killed game
Look at gallywix
Nobody fucking liked rtwf
gally was a diff situation imo
that was not them dialing back difficulty what are u talking about league player
it was just undertuned

gally was them trying something new and they just undertuned it for rwf
If they make mechanics easier then yeah why not remove wa. But if the game stays the same its gg
ye
its jsut too easy thats it
ye, hella anticlimactic fight to end the tier
i loved gallypigs
the thing with gally was them going "how much harder is a fight if they can't based their strats off of heroic" and the answer is "not much lmao"
one of my fav boss tho
I swear to god man, the guild i joined had more pulls on sprocket than gally
I wasnt in for sprocket since I joined midprog for it
but lmao
does that make sproket a btter boss tho ?
Yes
cause it certaintly wasnt lol
Tindral was harder then fyrrak
bro idk about others but I swear for melee that fight is
Better boss
HELLA EASY
Zac you off today or sumin
Just hardly working 
Imagine playing raid
working hard rn
ye, sprocket is a wa fight that didnt end up being cringe due to the wa
@vivid vessel u have to watc dexter ressurection
All the benefit of melee
Working hard or hardly working 
i swear
Without the downside of ranged
it is so fucking good
Like wtf
im wathcing hte other one rn
@proven ocean
week by week is rly good
im wthcing the
ye ye
og sin ?
I mean I'm enjoying og sin
nice nice
But season is starting
ye watch it when u finish
I won't have time now anymore
same probably
deadtube
wow isnt like league
Ross
Grind da boots

as early as u want
Grind da minions
Well we ain't playing together
im prob gonna make a grp ye
not guild
i will go maghar orc
for raid abit early on
Is there any reliable delve trinket for outlaw? Considering changes for s3 delves?
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
this one is decent
Waking up 5am ST
!haste
A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.
*But Haste has a **requirement ** because
Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.
The
KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after
Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.
The
HO build gets
Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.
You need to use
Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.
this one and this one are also "ok" but not as good as the other dude
void elf goes crazy
Nascar
Thanks Zac. Gonna check all of them
The footbomb dispenser got gigabuffed so it might be better now
Area of Effect
It's pointless
Like ks
KeKWs
its fucked i know
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Foot bomb but it's a box of pictures of Xalataths feet
Buff it more
what's the wa do?
are we crafting bracers chat
tells u to swap gems when u spec swap/some other conditionals (not all) for every class/spec
i swap specs a lot and i hate remembering
Hey everyone ! I'm kinda new to the spec, and for now i'm using Hekili to learn faster the priority spells. I was wondering if any of you used it aswell and if you know how to optimised it ?
it does have the outlaw haste condi
from my experience with hekili a long time ago, its really really meh
but that was on fury warr and not outlaw
I been reading outlaw is very relient on having high Ilvl weps so im guessing we all crafting swords right?
dagger is gonna be my first craft
:p
covers my OH slot for outlaw and
lets me play sub
in raid
I mean u can also wait with crafts for 2nd week
Maybe u get myth track weapon i vault or from hardmode tazavesh
youll still need a second weapon :P
offhand not that important
maybe u get it week after that, dont think crafting wep first is the way xd
we just need crafts for embels
i went a whole season without a single mythic weapon outve vault
on any of my slots
i dont trust rng
;p
idk i had crowd fav and capo
You just didn't Outlaw hard enough
i got capos with dinars literally 2 days b4 patch XD
Lol the stat chart
second boss only drops dagger i thought
yah but not blue
=not good
and last boss
but not 2nd boss but last boss
so even with dinars is a sucky
u need to do dimensius M
It’s perfect for u zac
lol
Ye but I wanted a weapon to hopefully prog something
both daggers are very good for sub and assa
mastery vers and crit mastery
its over zac
nah outlaw ded this season
fkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
gl hf
its over
good change for new KS
Tell him to swap from your left nut to your right nut when he's sucking them
rl swappers know to sucky
why not both
or all three

we r untouched for the last minute monday notes :(
Holy shmoly
ill touch u
erm
i did 0 m0, im doomed (im just gonna take hero delve loot)
just go do it
tf
do we craft weapon first, can't go wrong with that, right
they're legit piss easy
also wait fuck maintenance is like now isn't it, I was going to play after dinner
tbh
i like dome the most
idk why
prob cuz shortest
and tiktok attention span
for US
yes
no
Cringe
in 5 hours is reset
4 hours is when maintenance starts
yah ig
how many delve's maps can i get each week? for hero loot, was it one?
i have 10 of this shit
Oh then im fine it's 8pm here I just had dinner lol
@vivid vessel man i have 2 giga omega
songs
its one per week tho
to summon kyveza for maps
cost 2k thing
ye
one per char per week
i played The Guily Party - While She Sleeps song when i nuked kyveza 
thanks zac
2nd try after dinner insta
didnt remember
boe items in raid are all rando stated
im gonna buy every single BoE in the AH
cata
gonna spend over 20m this tier
howd u get it
farming portals
It drops once per week or can be used once per week?
also thats flase no ?
its just the ring
at fungal fooly
both
And we cant use it this week
im pretty sure they made all boes rando stat this tier
So what was the point of letting us get it this week
Weird
Nightfall one better imo
I tried both
Nightfall is faster to get to the gates
Cause the ship launch you in the middle of the map
you should cba a little yeah
man im getting pressured by all sides
going to rush into +7s and get hero loot each m+
weakness is only for lower species…
@vivid vessel
theres a new full raid buff bug abuse that i discovered last season
still working

maybe time to dominate leaderboards in s3??!!
@vivid vessel btw
do u strictly play around GS?
or do u send insta pre crackshot for example if its not up?
i send it on cd but not at full cp
and you need to be aware of its cp gen
quite common i ss > gs > finisher for example
Hey Guys, im new to wow and i really want to play outlaw rogue... but im kinda disabeld. can someone tell me some GSE Macros or normal macros so i can play with 4 or 5 buttons?
dont
i was playing sub for 2 months now but i kinda like to play with axes and not with daggers
😄
Now sub is a spec im wondering how u played with 5 buttons
alot of macros
when i played it i had a macro for everything
i optmised many GSE macros but i dont think im on the limit with that
just making good burst damage
not more
@vivid vessel how much dps did u do end of fight on kyveza?
😄
ok made the changes to my weakauras i wanted to make
i should make it support fatebound but i'm lazy 
i killed it already censi
just doing minmaxing stuff on it
im no longer stopping dps when doing mechanics
trying to full send 0 mistake run
0 downtime
well crisms did 6min right
i think it would be cool to beat tha
idk if its possible as outalw tho
i did 7min not focusing on dps at all
but 1 entire minute
hm
idk
Obs hello?
fire is way better at this fight
Range with no cast time
firemage is scripted
thats why
outlaw is a bunch of random procs
u dont know what ur gonna press after 1 gcd
@vivid vessel i love outlaw
man
i actually miss outlaw
holy shit
kyveza fight on outlaw is giving me s3 DF flashbacks
super intense outlaw gameplay in high keys
What do you get for beating kyveza?
What a great time to be had
epeen
Zac licks your toe crust
@vivid vessel
Is it ok to vanish on this boss?
waht am i looking at
u vanish and boss never resets in that phase
im sitting in stealth
look at the left buff
Rotation question: In fatebound vanish, if we're unlucky with CP procs for the second/third BtE, we keep building until we're at max even if we risk overcapping?
yeye i know
well i mean boss never reseted for me anyway
but te
ye
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
ye as soon as she disappears
she wont reset on vanish
so u can just be out of combat
but u have to hit her asap
when u click on the real one
im just playing it as sin, 5 tries in
getting the impression the red shades are a bit buggy if you move while looking at em
they are not buggy ur not looking at them correctly
the red shades never bugged out on all my tries and re tries
if your strafe modifies the angle of the stare contest sure
but if you strafe while adjusting the angle it's very fine
it depends how narrow the angle is but to me it looked like I was facing it
I stopped moving and its been easy since
im perma strafing on my attempts rn
full sprint outlaw
its just very hard to do early on so
anyone knows best way to farm curios?
I think they dont drop as much before season
I have a quick question about outlaw in m+, i run the anima charge talent on main tree and i wonder if i should reroll on cooldown or should i only reroll when i have KiR up ?
im sorry for ever doubting yall this is the hardest boss ive ever fought in my life
holy shit
Because from what i understood if i reroll i lose the previous roll i got from roll the bones (the tier set too maybe?) except when i'm under KiR
!kir
KIR build compared to
HO:
- doesn't use ambush, uses the same builder priority inside and outside of stealth
- is more cp efficient with pistol shot usage (see faq)
- has to use KIR itself as soon as you hit 4 buffs from RTB/CTO
- has an additional reroll logic after pressing KIR (see faq)
- is more punishing if you mess up builder priority at a given moment
- needs 19% haste from rating to reach 25% during adrenaline rush after alacrity
- KIR 1 FTH really likes trickster optimizations, like prioritizing SS when unseen blades are guaranteed (see faq)
there is not a lot to rtb this tier
i did like 28 attempts
...
noo lmao
if i beat it on my next attempt
i beat zac
and become r1 outlaw
and like
its so cursed
im dying to straight bs
her clone dash attack
has to be bugged
im staring right at them
no... its plausible still
it seems the lines on the floor spawning directly behind me tends fuck me
im staring right at the clone man
Yep
Would be cool if they gave you some leeway on the clone dashes, like being able to fail 2 total before it kills u
my next attempt is my kill
and if not
i wont even bother
it wont be worth at that point
Diamond mining meme
i wasted too much money trying its zzzz
gold*
im only doing this to fuel my ego
if i cant beat zac
whats the point
I knew you couldn't do it anyway
Nah
@torpid fiber it seems that double jeopardy just has a small delay
/cast Adrenaline Rush```
this will do the bug as well
Ur just bad
just the act of pressing them at the same moment
can i make a macro that replaces dispatch with bte within stealth windows
You need to break stealth with cancel aura tho still no?
huh that's crazy LMAO
if you want to AR first yea
Cause this can press ADR first
No I mean
I'm pretty sure
Off GCD stuffs like this
Will rng
oh right yeah non-deterministic ordering
hm
Which one it presses
yeah u need the cancelaura
@vivid vessel u win

Noob
Are you feeling spiteful yet?
No
Don't
Stance delay is caused by exiting or entering another stance,
Macros or bar swapping will have a small delay and can result in a miss fire.
In the example of the Dispatch/BtE macro it could cast a Dispatch after a Vanish> Dispatch/BtE macro.
This can also happen at the end of a stance, resulting in a BtE being sent, without your control, right as Subt/Dance expire and putting it up on cd.
And you wanna press bte out of stealth aswell
well ye
also it's fucked up that i have to do the undermine quests to get to unlock undermine so i can do floodgate m0
Man handle her
wait i might be dumb
snek
you hate women???
I think you mean bowl of fruit
mad cuz bad or
ne
You're why people don't come to this channel
I'm just teasing
Fucking longest week is coming to an end season 3 is otw
@gaunt phoenix Is holding vanish for gs/ar together or even just gs a dps increase if u take into account this bug
watching zeross argue with people is the main joy of this channel
Fr
Hey look its john deadbydaylight
chickensoupxd
i doubt it but not sure
do u guys think kyveza ?? is harder than most mythic bosses
can i use my ?? kill as a proof of skill to get in a random cutting edge guild
what i think about kyveza is that has long shitty interphases that makes your ADR uptime shitty like hell
damn you, interfases
i think u can play around that so its not such a big deal
yeh
i think this is the hardest boss to ever be dropped in this game
I put a countdown in BigWigs on the guessing game
i hate u too
I feel like the amount of double sided coins you print doing that is crazy, was playing around on a dummy with it, worth looking into at least
so I wouldn't forget to not send ADR right before it
i feel geniunely ill
You obv haven't faced Hogger
i just wont kill her week one
i waited too long
5% attempt
i give up
i cant handle it
i havent done mythic raiding but this boss was so fun
and im trying to find a guild now
ill never be good at rogue
but i get denied all the time bc no mythic pedigree
who needs xal'atath to step on you when you can have nexus-princess kyveza fully step on you
i hope ur happy
and your whole self-worth
traitor.
@vivid vessel what did u do for rep
quests in new zone?
cuz i finished all chapters
anyone knows?
He has a blue name, his alliances are already pretty weak.
It's the poison I put in your body
side quests, those magnifying glasses on the minimap give like 250 rep
just dont diie
Just remember
ur blocked
how many attemps did he take?
An even 200
if i go over 100 attempts i just wont play this season
ill accept the fact that im washed
and move on to like
osrs or classic like every washed wow player
i'm coping by telling me I didn't play seriously since DF S3 and this is just getting back to level bootcamp

pls dont take my excuse
tbf last season was my first season back since SL s3
but still
my excuse
Killing rares give u first time some rep as well
did outlaw got nerfed?
Rares, wq all arround with contract, quests and books. Im at 9
Rares one time for 15 each lol
I dont remember if the treasures gave any rep
@vivid vessel LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
No rep for treasures
I WAS LIKE
WAHTS GOING ON
HOW 2K
THEN I SEE TIER LIST

this is legit best part of pre season
tier list viewers
If i fill my inventory with stuff, do i actually not get a key from the low dungeons until i remove some from bag later?
ok what do you think he will put law in
What’s casuals tier list show me
he's finishing it rn he hasn't put rogue specs yet
R for rogue
the sim list that shows 6m sims and all of that, whats the ilvl of those sims?
!gear
I wasn't there when it happened either, but people in chat said it was some meme related to some guy insulting him in Greek or something I think
weird.
If you have the greek text i can translate if you want
Oh nah like I said, I wasn't there when it happened
just somebody in chat explained it (vaguely)
he said "his native language" too, so I dunno if he meant the chatter's native language or Casual's xd
it might give fatebound some kind of active rotation difference lmao
I am greek and i cant get the joke either 
you know what you have to do solo...
also good morning
Bugs keep us competitive
Maybe I'm a fatebound enjoyer now
I kinda like this idea of holding the CDs for vanihs kekkw
What's uh
Wait
You would need to vanish at 0 cp tho
That's cooked inst it
Or
Ye
That's cooked
not if you are vanishing into AR+GS
What
Are gives cp
So I need to vanihs at low cp
So you essentially lose a finisher for free
You get me or
Because instead I could have vanihs bte ADR
Ye
I mean it might be worth losing one finisher in your vanish window for the massive double jeopardy abuse
1h tricks makes delves so free ngl
Abuse!!
I love abusing bro bro bro
look if blizzard makes fatebound not work we get to take advantage of the good shit
who has access to ptr rn
wtf
Wow I'm really bad at outlaw
I do solo
there is no way
i do as well
/cast Adrenaline Rush
/cast Ghostly Strike
/cast Between the Eyes```
open with this macro, do you get 8 coins?
Lemme see
I want more coins !
From this one marco ye nothing else
Ye all good
Then just manually bte or
BRO IT'S NOT LAUNCHING WTF
What if we mfd aswell
if i just give double jeopardy a 1 millisecond delay in simc then it ends up with 8 coins
my wow is taking 5 working days to open sec solo
cause it will AR GS BTE instantly
Ye
so the cook would be 2 free coins ?

HOLY FUCKORONI

Show your raw buffs not weakaura
alrighty
i did mr solo
its from 1 click
of the macro
8 doesn't give you the capstone tho probably
xdd

aha i only sc tails, lemme check again
skill issue i think
i trust ots
okay
why did you get 7 heads and 2 tails tf
what's ur ping
ye wtf
imagine if its a bug you can only do under 100ms

holy shomke
this is getting more and more based
ya i had this happen yesterday with vanish
/cast Adrenaline Rush
/cast Ghostly Strike
/cast Vanish
/cast Between the Eyes```
this gets you 7 but with no lucky coin
but you dont actually need vanish
so without vanish i guess you still get 7 but no coin
@gaunt phoenix
can only exploit if you are in a first world country
it worked then
We got the coolest hero talents Pog
WHERE CAPSTONE
so if you bte on the same frame you dont get capstone
My fkn ptr wont even open anymore
What if you dispatch….
Just loads of dmg or?
thats because you finished again and went from 7 to 8
Ye true
is the bug a big dps increase?
Since the macro is canceling stealth maybe we throw a vexie keys in there and see if it doesn't mess with subterfuge
I'm getting 7/4 pretty consistently
Pvp outlaw one button macro videos inc
on 75ms
This is wild
so the pinned macro is enough there is no further cookage
WHERE IS MY CAPSTONE
Sounds like you dropped it
yeah lucky coin is on a massive delay
LMAO
Nah but dude
wanna see content
That's crazy
gimme a sec
Imagine how much time these devs spend on these things that no one sees
plz bro u gotta cook the "abuse double jeopardy with vanish"
So bad bro
Wait, so you instantly procc fateful ending or no?

Like they could have made a banger visual
Instead they made something no one sees
Kekw
@gaunt phoenix did you look at the lucky coin force with vanish in the sim in case the macro gets fixed (which I assume it will)

can u outrun the coin with sprint lmao
you assume a lot of things bro
fatebound has been a mess since day 1
nothing got fixed
ever
half the tree is cooked
well regardless of macro shit, vanish > finish at 5 of each coin doesnt seem to get you to 7
I didn't have the room
he caught you wtf
I am noob
Like you think they are going to fix that
Save coin during downtime tech just quadruple grapple and sprint away from it 




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