#outlaw
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@fathom bramble think anti mage from dota
It was just bloodelf cuz of silence + looks hot
we're due
ah nice
for a new one
bro isn't a tank
i chose to believe that leak
A new class already? Yeah okay
hey. is fatebound HO n option with new tier?
yes but no
@fathom bramble shaman ?
new class always appeares every second expansion
except spellbreakers are a thing in wow
Is that real?
the only one that broke the norm is shadowlands
I literally could not care less about dota 2
probs not
Dota 2 is wow
its a leak
Looks like mmochampion website
no one will know until gamescon in 8 days
it is
Well we know in 8 days
Not like how u used to
and ppl suck at shroud skipping when u aren't like, actually tryharding
parts might be
Came to outlaw chat to see how much cope was happening and it's just DOTA 2 posts. π
Ittl be my new main
People keep using movement abilities and breaking shroud
@haughty wigeon no
I think every time Iβve tried to do a distract shroud skip someone has walked too close to the pack
Only dps
People were better at shrouding before honestly or as good as now
your mistaking me for a person
Shroud was alot more popular before
who wants another tank spec
ye sure
Its still giga useful tho
Fun fact
Casuals will suck at everything anyway so ye
shield sword glaive
Oh shit its a glaive
looks like a shield and glaive
That makes sense then
Dk was partly inspired by the spellbreaker unit in wc3
inb4
Guys
absorb
Nah u guys dont understand how shit my guild is at keys
So panda diff
Nobody understand how stealth works
Can u stop typing too much cuz im hungry
U guys are key tryhards where people know how shroud works and where to use it
Oh ye i can imagine
For us its "can we shroud this" "No" "Just try anyway" and then its a shitshow
Every time 

kekw the racial talent trees coming pog
Ye i did some m0s they are so bad
In pugs
19th is the con?
People just dont rly know keys if they dont do them which is fine
dont remind me
i did keys yesterday on my main
m0 sorry
and each tank
did s1 level of overal damage
Bro
im gonna que as vdh last day
I got aggro
I don't have shroud on my bars anymore. Pugs don't deserve them.
"Shroud?"
"No"
For the first time since shadowlands
ill play like shit too
My friends are smart enough to avoid shit
just to hammer the fact that my lowpoint is better than 90% of casuals high points
Stuff that's avoidable through normal means
At 675 ilvl
@proven ocean you beefing with xhanon cuh?
oh i know
i know
i know
i know
spinning crane kick spam
I was like HOW AM I GERTING AGGRO WTF
and nothing else
I told him why am i getting aggro
like equinox :DD :DDD
Then he got angry saying β thats how tanking works stop exploding on them β
What do yall want to see at the Midnight announcement?
Then i told him why β1 mil dmg peak on a pack β
i want to see housing
He didnt talk anymore
ks rework
I want to see how they're gonna add the extra 10 levels
Rogue better
to fucking
funny yhou say taht rem
chaos strike spam again
say it
Yea both worthless


tbf pvp can thrive if they just sort queue times for non healers
non, my spec stole them all
why does people want a rogue rework
@vague cape how they gonna sort queue times
the class has a lot of interactions that cause frustration I think
god knows bro, theyd have to make more people want to heal
I wish they'd stop adding so many different sets in a season.
i mean i dont think the spec needs a rework
I dont rly care tho zac
@vague cape sike
I think outlaw needs a real massive overhaul
actual stat scaling
The spec is just too ugly now
I want uhuh to grant adr and it'd be golden imo. peak outlaw
Like someone breaks outlaw knees every patch
11.2 dh notes
yeah but that isnt like a true rework right like
When
need i say mroe
Nah. Talent changes at most tbh
@proven ocean its teh entirety of dh changegs in 11.2 ross
Vdh is kinda ass or?
yeah i agree there is plenty doodoo talents but in all honesty were pretty good off in talent department
@proven ocean everyone is sayinf different tanks for meta except vdh and blood
to diamond of disentary
tf
tf
?!
you can do
some fucky things
Dont tf me what the helly
Paladin or warrior
if you had a tierset that makes you shit out 20 souls in aoe
how can i tell raidbots to sim my gear considering a fixed haste of 19% ? So it can understand that i need more or less haste?
to bad we dont have that this season
that's because they are already perfect in every way 
Idk. I feel pretty locked in the talents and the talents we do swap for different builds don't hold a lot of power in them since like 70% (obv an exaggeration) is in Uhuh/crackshot/ace.
that if you can generate a ton of souls in one global and your fast enough to press a spender

you will get a spender scaled up to 20 souls
nah i hear you tho really
in general
If you use kir talents it will always want the required haste
i dont think outlaw needs much changes
Every single spec in the entire game has "locked in talents" similar to "crackshot and uhuh"
We're not the only spec like this so it's whatever
i mean its just hero talents
i think alot of people will be happy for actual impactful changes whille keeping the specs core intact
I'm aware
if you remove hero talents the spec is uqite fine
not "the only spec" literally every spec in the game
pick ele for example, if you were to play a boss like stix you would be completely fucked having to choose between m+ and st talents, outlaw is honestly pretty fine regarding that
stat scaling
I said that
You wanna know one thing
acros return
19 maxed out
Stat scaling is one of the last thing keeping outlaw relevant
to outlaw and feral/bear
lowkey just remove stats and use attack power π
Like imagine if outlaw didn't stack vers
GG
Useless spec
Flat damage is good
no
Stockholme syndrome is where the captor of a kidnapping situation starts to fall in love with kidnapper
ok bro
i nthe one expansion ret had where it stacked verse
you calling me stupid
people missed it when it was gone
i just dont think any spec should stack verse
it just says
all its other stats suck giga dick
Imagine our mastery being so shit
You can tell me anything
changes to stat scaling != changing vers from being best outlaw stat
Vers is our main stack
But ultimately your damage is still dependent more on tuning that stat scaling
So idc
Maybe vers = crit = mastery would be nice
wouldnt just crit become alot better like if bte wasnt bte?
In high keys
no one is gonna argue that zac
A spec can also have vers as their best stat while not scaling poorly
When I have nothing else going on for me
this btw
instead of having 70% verse
stat scaling is kinda fake in modern wow tbf, any outliers are very quickly brough back into line
shadow is the big example
Corruption with infinite haste
torghast sub s++++++
That torghast power with actual infinite energy
Nah resto shaman had best torghast
Like having all of crit mastery haste being just 5% worse than vers lets you scale off buffs or pi/lust or whatever while still prioing vers instead of vers being 50% better (then youβre cooked)
Acid rain man
@haughty wigeon ok i have an idea
Stacked
that silver evisc dmg power ended up making evisc just one shot everything
shoot
as i blend myself a juice
new outlaw passive:
- your secondary stat is transformed in vers at 200% value
thoughts?
English frenchie
whatever you understand the concept
Your secondary stat is transformed into? Vers
What veggies?
ye
!wa
That is horrible idea
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
if you have 20% haste on your gear
its actually
40% vers

500% vers spec
thoughts?
THEN WE WOULD HAVE 150% verse
YE
i like it
BUT WE WOULD HAVE GOOD STAT SCALING
ok im sorry idk how this happened
Damn good deal
i misscliked something
Ill be banned goodbye
you solved the mastery problem
strawberries papaya
I know right
Mastery just needs to give real dmg
Theifs vers goes dummy hard
imagine if they just made ruthless precision %dmg increase instead of crit, same for bte, there you go you now scale with crit again xd
We keep having infinite vers but every other stat scale better than vers
How crazy is that
Crazy I know
And haste needs to scale off something man
i like loks idea
you'd also stop using all these obsecure dmg proc trinks every season
You ever try guava?
adr increases your damage based on haste %

ye
I mean ye
dont like it
That's
Hmm
How it should have been
Or it increases your cdr based on haste
melon is good
So we don't have this cringe ass thing
So haste affects restless blades
HELL NAH
Ok sure
THOUGHTS
No
THOUGHTS
ok
Actually I'm reporting you again
Mastery increases % rtb and opp chance
HASTE = RTB % modifier
should be mastery tbf
Hmm what if haste increased buff duration ?
where can i watch/follow the RWF ?
And kir increases haste
Blizz hire us rn
Mastery = crit damage haste = buff duration
Crit mastery best stats with vers
Haste is whatever
If you have it good if not whatever
stop bro
stats that impact gmaeplay
bad
always
nah man
we'd just get baseline 20% haste for some reason
look at mm
the amount of crit modifiers
xd
Haste = what hmm
True true
Mw has that I think
Let's go, stat tax into vers funnel
tbf I actually like current outlaw, new kspree takes away a lot of the headaches
Truth supernova
Okay but
only real major issue remaining is lack of burst making it harder to justify in raid
now we're no longer trolling by pressing ks xd
The value of a flat class is alot
Dont talk to the best kyveza farmer ?? In the game, the guy took him 4 days of prog to get it done
Especiallt during hectic fights
Welp
Ugh no
yay and nay, the issue is you have 14 dps, that alone kills the value of flat dmg
@vague cape nay cause most classes are saving for burst profiles
if the raid had fewer dps and dmg checks weren't just have x burst class hold y cd for this
maybe
that and any intermission, downtime or dmg amps absolutely fuck us
Naw just get lucky during amp
Don't bully I'm still progging her tonight 9pm to midnight hopefully we kill (me and my insanity)
Hehehe
Sounds like... we should have something that ramps in damage the longer we attack.
tbh outlaw is actually extremely strong at most non damage metrics
And you want us to suffer from downtime even longer ?
this has to be top 5 tankiest specs, most mobile spec ingame
xd
You dont remember shadow lands s3 ig
for aoe that is
That was true sus sv
nah I don't, Ive played sv since s1 sl, I quit in s2 sl and came back for df
Yea you missed out
That was great. Shrapnel goes brrrr
Sepulcher survival was balanced btw
Assa arcane mage now better
Tbf some long charging ability would fit law well
Like you need 1mn of sustained uptime to charge some big nuke
ye
Assa isnt even a real funnel spec
That's what I was trying to get to
Its completely different to a real funnel
Funnel takes aoe turns it into st with spender
sin does spend cps
the funnel aspect is the massive increase in energy+ cp economy and scent of blood
Yea they mutilate once a century for it
Dunno ima do the scummy pug strat
And be the only zenith in raid
And clear heroic and normals

Then run 239 on last boss for highest curio chance
If i do it right on reset nobody will care
This kind of abilities might come with upcoming class reworks as they're basically fellowship's ults
I'm glad you saw my vision
It's 2 problems were travel time and dmg which can be fixed
Actually it was a ground target ability too
or a CD that lets your blade flurry hit-targets have a % at triggering a cannonball blast
So fix that too
Make it like remorseless winter
That'd be cool methinks
Or maybe something like frostwyrms fury
But not exactly
you remember when we had gp ult in legion?
Whattt
make it like sindy's breath except you breathe bullets
Who
Sup
i got her down to
what is ur guys dps on dummies
literally 2%
5 targets
I haven't tried. I've been working
and got fucked
@worldly shale 10mil
same
throwing at 2% 
Im lying
i like celebrated too early
10.1 mil
your 5 target dummy DPS should be equal or close to your dummy 5T sim
same i lied
I searched a backpack the other day and confiscated a combat knife.
@worldly shale lied again
zac
10.11
to prove iβm the real r1 outlaw
that's a life lesson
fuck
it really isβ¦
My friends do this all the time in arenas. We'd take one down and they'd get complacent
Dont ever celebrate
i was like sheβs gonna die i donβt need more bran health pots
and
she killed me
Till you roll that 1 on fier piece
i had a lock do this
I don't celebrate until I see victory on my screen
we killed healer but our priest died
I only celebrate after seeing the parse
So annoying
I hate snapping at them but they gotta lock in lol
I've won many a 2v3s
imagine u vanish and reset
I would quit game
At .1% I'm going back to cata combat gameplay idgaf
No chances will be taken
i canβt be one to talk tho
i have laugh macrod to all my abilities in arena
our whole spec is gambling
I have /kiss
i celebrate as soon as fight starts
Our spec
itβs so funny
The boss ain't our spec
people tilt so hard
cheatsheet to life
how many tho
also doesnt count if you didnt do the fight blind
iβm at 28 rn
big diff if you watched tettles pull for 500 pulls cuh
I've seen yall talk about it but that's it
I'm not gearing until I kill the mfer
once i kill it sub 40 attempts
Like a rite of passage
Your prince
Our
Tobfon is my prince
No
Yes
Idc
Loktark vs zac
Idek who mouse is
Loktark is my queen
Was Guy but our last few interactions he was mean to me
ima be ur prince after this sub 40 kill
You can be my duke
Naw youre the peasant cleaning zacs mansion
Im the cockroach crawling around his rice
Me enjoying some good food
do they have rice in france?
you probably deserved it
I just meme him
I actually didn't do anything last time

When does server usually coem up again
It's only down for a couple hours when it is down
34
but ye
sure
if you do you get r1
once i get my 100% uptime sub 34 attempt kill
i will solidify my spot
idk if i can consider you a winner
ok bro iβm fighting her at 670 ilvl with more mastery than vers
iβm not stacked
if she dies she dies
actually no
i canβt make excuses for myself
well 670 is an excuse i will accept
my bad
You think it's possible at say 655 ilvl?
ye
@vivid vessel dont give it up bro
i was trying it at 640
Youre our king
i think its possible

I won't have time to do it again thi
Tonight I do tazavesh then I go sleep at 22h
So I can wake up at 6 am
And play wow

idec abt this thing i just want to do wow content bc league is ruining my life
and i just wanna play wow
What rank are you
1 rank above whatever you are
is tazavesh open?
ptr
ahh
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
legend says @quaint mauve is still recovering to this day
I cannot add head enhancement on raidbot how come?
masters rn 200 lp
Low masta like me
yeah he lowkey broke my heart
No wonder you wuit
There isn't the head enhancement tab on raidbot for some reason
i just got ran down by βabused slutβ and βfragile kittenβ on their off roles
AHHAAHAHAHAHAHA
NO FUCKING WYA
LOLOLOL
how?
haha
why did they get dismissed?
Zac and Zeross in their downtime
basically half of cn leaderboard is banned
check any random chinese run
it will be banned
Rmt
boosters get banned too
All the players are banned cause they did rmt
Ye
do they publicly say it
zac
Ye they did
It's the Chinese announcement
they say everything publicly
Form like last week
like
they clearly have enough proof to be confident in banning them
Raider io is catching up
dont forget to pay 10$
for this item
etc
or boost
etc
i tryharded abit of d4 with good gamers
idk why they are not cautious with what they're saying
i think they make pretty decent money
ye but why in wow chat
that they can afford ip bans or even device bans
its abit stupid to talk there
and just go next
about boosts
idk those rules seem too strict to me
ngl
like
i dont mind it but
sounds stupid to ban half the population
xd
i mena
i guess its fine because not many ppl are genuinely good
or trying to be good
they just buy shit all the time
to pretend they're good at gaming
when they're just mid cuz they have normal lives
wait r they just banning for boosting?
ye
nah i think its just rmt boosting
Where is the head enchant slot
not normal gold boosting
boosting 0.1% title and bragging about it and their blizzard team cares about integrity
which i respect
oh we cannot enchant season 3 items,
i think its just boosting in general
?
not just rmt
if ur not account sharing , buying a team is whatever
they talked about integrity zac
in my eyes
so they suspend you for the rest of the season, why would you care about 3 days off from group queue / solo shuffle for a day
it said something like
"you got boosted" "you didnt earn the title"
so they wanted to make it legit
by banning the fake ones
i respect that ngl
ironically
cuz if the whole community was like that it'd be cringe
this action further incentivises boosting
i dont care about 0.1% title because im playing on a giga high level anyway
the only reason someone would buy title is bragging rights, if they ban people caught getting boosted etc then you just maintain the value of title
which loops back into people paying for it
idk i think the entire thing is pointless, spending hundreds of hours for a title is insane (kek)
if ur not rmt or account sharing i just dont see the problem with buying teams :p
xd
Idk idc about boosting in wow it doesn't impact anyone like it does in league
to comment on it
Nub
@vivid vessel ngl everytime i see someone bragging about the title is usually a clown
Compared to the pvp one
you know about the russian rbg boosting teams?
either a clown or bought it himself
Nah
it affects pvp quite a bit
bastards wintrading etc
I don't care about pvp tho kekw
I'm talking PvE here
Pvp is another game
Not my game
pvp is another thing ye
Ban boosting in pvp
ye
It's a pvp game
It affect people
iβve heard wintrading is a big issue in high ladder
title imo is more a testament of dedication and persistence than outright insane skill, doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of insanely skilled title holders
ye its horrible
thats the real meaning of it but yet people buy it or brag as if its impossible to earn
ye but that impct other people directly
not like pve
so its bad
im not a fan of M+ buyers
they're all the same to me, they come up they want to hide their name and pretend they belong
Banned
in the end they suck
I doo too
and they all have ego as if they're as good
when they aren't
i legit never met a single good buyer
imagine thinking you need to have title to feel ok about your wow acomplishments lmao
not 1
you can be shit with title and good without
if you buy it and couldn't have done it you'll be exposed
i have the title like 2 times idc too so ye
i usually push and stop mid season and the 0.1% threshhold just spikes at the end
I dont have a single one, I actively avoid pushing above weekly, only ever doing a push key if a friend needs me and even then I normally don't do too many
i mean in title range everyone knows each other tbf
title should be what you feel yourself and your acomplishment
if ur boosted people already know
ye
keys are fun but not fun enough to push for me, make em drop myth loot and ill push
they 100% do
because the buyers contact 50% of the players (like 5 players)
xdd
those 5 players each have 10 other players they contact
to do the boost
Are you sure it's not because you are a little pig
so
Oink oink
oinky
im fairly sure I could do it
no guarantees about how many keys tho 
i think climbing in M+ raw is the best shot u got
be very good
prove it to the level where if u join a good team
they acknowledge you
and want you with them
thats where u actually join the best players
I just don't think they incentivise it enough
Nah bro score in this game isnt as much about being good than how much you play score keys
ADD REAL M+ REWARDS BLIZZ
PvP has better awards than M+ lolol
playing alot is important
but
i want power xd
being good is also giga important lol
reason why u dont see that is because everyone in the leaderboard is already super good
that they all can achieve everything
Yes obviously if you're him you'll maybe get score easier
all ima say is I know people who have got it and they are not that clean
everytime i see "omg i hate pugs they suck" these people
they are 99% of the time are just as bad
and just ego'ed out
their dps sucks
dps matters alot in high keys
I hate pugs they suck
That has nothing to do with this huh
bad
zac β 1:04 PM
I hate pugs they suck
Fuck
It's actually getting to play the game lmao
I got got
If you pug score you actually just do not get to do keys
I wish I had a little tiny kitten I could hold rn
Play your own key obviously but then you're stuck just sending resil 17 priory until it's clean
everyone spammed resil priory even the best teams in the world
so
Im tired of this pugging nonsense
Spamming it a lot as a team isnt too bad compared to sending your own shit in group finder
Look bro yes
Being good is good
If you're the goat of outlaw rogue and do everything perfect you'll have an easier time timing keys
Do we know crest caps? Is it gna be 180 runed/gilded or
Congrats you used chatgpt
dude
you seen sjele team?
These guys are absolute degenerate
why are u talking to the clanker
They were doing 21 priory for 2 week straight to get rank 1
Sup mtfkers
It was crazy



