outlaw

[keen belfry]

exactly ye

[fluid iron]

prepatch for midnight?

[keen belfry]

yes

[balmy topaz]

Remember what happened tww prepatch

[fluid iron]

nah its a DK tier, it is what it is

[keen belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-rage-dontgogently-poem-death-gif-24693462

but imagine this says midnight

[balmy topaz]

Haste cap was fucked for outlaw in tww prepatch

[keen belfry]

man the haste cap is so bad

[balmy topaz]

Expansion*******

[keen belfry]

hahaha

[fluid iron]

why would u think that i would know that?

do i look like i play outlaw

like ever?

[keen belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-gif-6191050

[balmy topaz]

You’re an outlaw enjoyer

[fluid iron]

im quite the fucking opposite

[desert tendon]

stealthi is a one trick outlaw forced to play sub for progress

dont lie

you re like whispyr

you re an outlaw lover

right?

[fluid iron]

if outlaw is ever raid meta

im not playing rogue

[keen belfry]

stealthi i used to use ur prog vidoes for learning fights

[fluid iron]

that tier

simple as

[keen belfry]

until i saw u type i nhere

i had to stop giving u views

[balmy topaz]

Aren’t you lucky

[keen belfry]

punches stealthi

[fluid iron]

catches the fist with 1 hand with a smirk on my face

[tribal cosmos]

Cringes

[keen belfry]

laughs as he doesnt know i have 2 hands

[desert tendon]

ok anime racoon

[tribal cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-cringe-gif-17778800

[desert tendon]

wow 2 hands

lucky you

[fluid iron]

little does he know ive got 4 paws

[keen belfry]

and full head of hair

[desert tendon]

but the 1 mewo hands is hotter than your 2 hands, sorry

[balmy topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/whizzy-imposterfox-smash-anime-smash-anime-girl-gif-21682300

[keen belfry]

[balmy topaz]

But yeah @keen belfry

Haste cap

Not good

Especially in prepatch

[keen belfry]

haste scaling

[balmy topaz]

And you know what

Apparently we are getting scaled down in prepatch

[keen belfry]

HO gaming

[balmy topaz]

I bet we gonna get fucked

[fluid iron]

awang coming out the shadows to punch me

https://tenor.com/view/dc-crime-syndicate-2521-yearn-crisis-on-two-earths-justice-league-crisis-on-two-earths-gif-10617283423372268716

caught mfer

[desert tendon]

ew

[keen belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/ora-punch-fight-meme-gif-16216293

[desert tendon]

i d rather being an outlaw hater than playing ho

[tribal cosmos]

Im boughta quit outlaw

And play assa

Gg

[balmy topaz]

Most violent racoon known to man

[cinder relic]

I'm expecting rogue to get an overhaul in midnight

It's been too long with nothing substantially changing YK

[keen belfry]

same

[fluid iron]

i expect sp

[cinder relic]

We got coup changes, supercharger, and ks

[fluid iron]

and im 99% sure im right

[balmy topaz]

Sp?

[keen belfry]

clock will strike midnight on the current iteration of outlaw

[fluid iron]

shadow priest

[keen belfry]

get it guys?

[balmy topaz]

O

[keen belfry]

😄

[fluid iron]

they have quota of 90 reworks per two years

so

[balmy topaz]

[fluid iron]

chop chop

[tribal cosmos]

Outlaw turning to slayer

https://tenor.com/view/full-charge-dragon-twister-dragon-twister-samurai-gif-25156650

Im ready

[balmy topaz]

Okay guys here me out

How about

[desert tendon]

i thinking more sp / dh / druid

[keen belfry]

hearing

[balmy topaz]

We reroll

Mage

[desert tendon]

idk why

[tribal cosmos]

Heer*

[balmy topaz]

[keen belfry]

my mage is geared ruby

[balmy topaz]

Same

[keen belfry]

i played mage until halfway thru mugzee prog

[desert tendon]

we dont wanna see you on mage ever again awang tho

[keen belfry]

im ready

im ready censi

[balmy topaz]

They get rework every 2 patches

And their dev is full timer

[desert tendon]

if you re only left choice is to reroll

just quit the game

[balmy topaz]

Their dev isn’t on mat leave

[desert tendon]

[cinder relic]

I don't really want my spec to get reworked every tier

[desert tendon]

the issue of outlaw is the base of it to me right now

[balmy topaz]

Naa but more attention

[cinder relic]

More attention =/= good changes

[keen belfry]

@desert tendon u dont want this thing back?

[cinder relic]

Do shadow priest players sound happy getting changes every patch?

[tribal cosmos]

Yes

[balmy topaz]

I don’t know they all have each other on ignore

[desert tendon]

well not really

because the only change they re getting are PL tuning

Bring back mindseer 😠

[keen belfry]

no

searing nightmare

right guys?>

[balmy topaz]

SN being gone was a lot

[keen belfry]

same with DN

[cinder relic]

I remember everybody hated the dk rework

And then they reverted the whole tiered spell thing

And then its op so everybody loves it now

[tribal cosmos]

Whats dn

https://tenor.com/view/deez-nuts-laughing-funny-haha-gif-4150229680900698274

[cinder relic]

Crazy, nobody is complaining and tagging Devs on twitter #gripisntenough now that fdk and udk are literal thanos

[hallow crow]

why off hand 691 will be rng 1 p/week

nooo

[cinder relic]

Weird how that works

[desert tendon]

i mean

[keen belfry]

i might go rejoin that discord

[desert tendon]

i bet if you buff outlaw by 2000% and make it raidboss

[keen belfry]

and ask them

[desert tendon]

people wont complain anymore

[tribal cosmos]

I would complain

Too many outlaws then

[mighty pivot]

outlaw population would double (150 people total)

[desert tendon]

these are wrong answers

They would buffs mage by 2500%

to compensate

[blissful osprey]

does anyone use muropakettis roll the bones WA? do you know if you can keep the buffs up on your screen isntead of them fading?

[frail veldt]

I def know dk mains who did not like last season

who hated the playstyle

they just get drowned out cuz people tell you to shut the fuck up and stop complaining if your spec is S tier

cuz theres no way a spec can still have issues when its S tier right?

tuning is the only relevant part of design

right guys?

[craggy barn]

real and true

based af

[keen belfry]

ill make a curry toimorrow @timber quail

[blissful osprey]

or, what do you use to track your rtb?

[keen belfry]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[keen belfry]

the rtb buff tracker @blissful osprey

[frail veldt]

lol cant use PS or BtE on these mobs

[lime lake]

well yeah look at that shell

it wouldnt do anything

[desert tendon]

L rolls

[blissful osprey]

oh ty ty!

[frank finch]

didnt they fix fb ? taking forever to proc lucky coin OR do we need the 4p for that?

[keen belfry]

its tier

[frank finch]

ahh

ok

[cinder relic]

Tier set auto completes it basically

[keen belfry]

so if u GS into AR how many guaranteed flips do u get

5?

[frank finch]

another tier effect we will want baseline or in the tree in the future

[keen belfry]

this tier seems like bandaid

that will be in FB tree in midnight

but also, i would expect a FB rework next xpac

[frank finch]

rip fb

rip kir

[lime lake]

[frank finch]

what else

rip uhuh

your time is neatr

[cinder relic]

I think a lot of the Tier sets will get made baseline

[keen belfry]

im complaining about getting FB capstone now (which is funny cuz my ccomplaint about FB was sometimes u can just never get ur capstone) but a capstone that procs in first 10 seconds then u never think about again is also bad design

[cinder relic]

And again I'm expecting rogue large scale changes in midnight to rogue in general

[balmy topaz]

[cinder relic]

Idk if it's COPIUM

The spec got no changes in this entire expac, broadly speaking

[desert tendon]

i would expect at least full rework on hero talents

[balmy topaz]

Yeah I do agree

[cinder relic]

Even if "DEVS HATE ROGUE THIS GAME SUCKS" blah blah, they usually rework shit eventually

[keen belfry]

how many specs fully got no changes this xpac

[next wedge]

rogue hero talents are so ass compared to other classes

[desert tendon]

Yea ok guy but ... DEVS HATE ROGUE THIS GAME SUCKS

[next wedge]

DH didnt get any changes coming into this tier

[desert tendon]

rogue get big changes tho, snd rework, loss of er, loss of dust, ks rework, assa became more boring that it already was

[cinder relic]

Warrior didn't

[desert tendon]

[next wedge]

warrior was beans last tier too

my fury friends were on suicide watch

[desert tendon]

Even in S1 it was trash, the big selling point was their AOE / cleave which was just way too good in couple boss in raid until they nerfed it to the ground

[dawn talon]

i don't really know if i want a large scale change, i just want them to fix the obvious issues with the current state of the spec

same with sub

[next wedge]

i want hero talent changes

[cinder relic]

I mean I love current rogue despite its current issues

[frank finch]

our fate was sealed in the ion interview

[keen belfry]

i do think a fix of our issues would be alarge scale change

i consider both hero trees an issue

[balmy topaz]

Again though it’s just attention

[dawn talon]

yeah i love it as it is but i would love it even more if it were better

[balmy topaz]

I just wish they listened more

[hollow wharf]

/wa

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[lime lake]

https://tenor.com/view/how-come-dont-want-me-man-fresh-prince-gif-14767509

[next wedge]

rogue is fun but it's a bit demoralizing to watch hunter to get their 3rd rework this expac and we got nothing

[balmy topaz]

[hollow wharf]

for class packs

are you supposed to take them all

[cinder relic]

It's important to recognize that rogue hasn't gotten, literally nothing

[hollow wharf]

or just one of them

[cinder relic]

Just not a lot

[balmy topaz]

Ye I agree

[next wedge]

just the one you like the best

[cinder relic]

Sub got dust removed, supercharger got added, ks got reworked

[hollow wharf]

okkk

[balmy topaz]

I know this isn’t really something to go by

But

[cinder relic]

Main things for me is like, sub talent relook at, outlaw rework, deathstalker/fatebound rework

[desert tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072566287638728786/1400479831447044368/cmi9h19tj6gf1.png?ex=6898a77b&is=689755fb&hm=1ad7d8541dcb54a35767dc7c9b4efde4b09ab1e93935925852688456cce28d18&

@balmy topaz

[next wedge]

i want ADR to be less emphasized for outlaw

the playstyle has been fun this expac but if it stays effectively the same then i think i'll get bored of it

[balmy topaz]

[next wedge]

my guild lets me play what's fun

but im not in HoF

[inland walrus]

does anyone else have desynch in kyveza's movement in intermission and maybe knows a fix?

[compact narwhal]

sub dust was so much fun :( rip

[haughty wigeon]

its not copium

[pliant wind]

sub should have what we have now but with some dust variation added, would much funnier when to use those empowered vanishes

now vanish sucks on sub

[haughty wigeon]

all specs get touched in expansion beta

idk why we're pretending they dont

also like it could be worse

any changes could make your spec or class worse :)

like the paladin class tree changes :)

[lunar thorn]

Rogue has pretty much been an afterthought this entire expansion so if Midnight is more of the same I wouldn't be shocked

[simple dagger]

Second Coup from 4pc still costs combo points right?

[limpid plank]

is this season a fatebound or trickster season?

[old gull]

I'd just be curious to hear what the dialogue from them on rogue in pve/pvp

[haughty wigeon]

i wouldnt say that either

but you do you boo

[lunar thorn]

I mean I still remember when assassination got their hero talents like 2 weeks? before expansion launch, and they all hated it and went live with practically 0 feedback

And we got the iconic wow lore rich...coin flip guy fantasy

[cinder relic]

Vanish has historically sucked for sub tho

It's not like, an abnormality

Dust was genuinely one of the most fundamentally broken things the game has ever had

With the way sub rogues profile was designed

[gaunt phoenix]

yeh

[dim rivet]

do we coup de grace > BtE during vanish?

or BtE prio for the cp return? I feel like that was a dumb question

[gaunt phoenix]

trickster in keys or raid cleave, fatebound for raid st

also i think fatebound is considerable in keys if you cannot stand trickster, but not at high levels of play

[near rock]

FATEBOUND 4 LIFE

[gaunt phoenix]

You dont use Coup inside stealth

you bte

coup has higher priority than vanish, unless you must vanish for AR

after tier set, you will specifically try to send vanish after coup every time

unless nearly capped on charges or you need to vanish for AR

[balmy topaz]

Really strange question and idk if you’ve tested it on the sim but does the 2nd coup follow the Deft rule of low cps if it’s up

Or should we always just send it on low cps

[limpid plank]

is killing spree still a priority over vanish on fatebound?

[gaunt phoenix]

Both coups have the same rule, you try to send coup at normal cps usually, but you send it early if you would otherwise have to press sinister strike

[balmy topaz]

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah, but you dont have to worry about trying to delay vanish cause of ks cooldown

it seems to not matter a whole lot

[dim rivet]

ty ❤️

[tribal cosmos]

Why bf6 got the queue wow wish they had

[dim rivet]

just wait till zulian tiger hits trading post

[jolly geyser]

cause its beta and bf

[prisma vessel]

bf6's queue for me started at 200k xD but it took like 10 minutes to get in

then game crashed

[tribal cosmos]

LOL

[prisma vessel]

cause beta

[tribal cosmos]

im position 100k rn

[prisma vessel]

tbf it crashed after i played like 6 matches

was fun

[tribal cosmos]

Ill get to play for like 2 days

Before raid

[prisma vessel]

open beta just weekend i thought?

[tribal cosmos]

Damn so i gotta find a m + push group + a raid push group damnn

[vivid vessel]

deadtooooob

[tribal cosmos]

Yes zac

[jolly geyser]

I cant play BF for long, I do it in bursts

[vivid vessel]

hi

[tribal cosmos]

Hi

[vivid vessel]

my bf has 100% uptime noob

[prisma vessel]

same, its more or less my attention span xD

[tribal cosmos]

It looks fun and hectic

Ima play some sniper

Is sniper fun im tryna kill noobs 1400 m away

[jolly geyser]

its not attention, its cause I gotta hyper focus to see enemies

[tribal cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-pubg-loading-sniper-reload-gif-15505006

[balmy topaz]

Finished watching Jurassic park?

[prisma vessel]

i get that >.<

[vivid vessel]

not yet

i took a break

[prisma vessel]

i should try sniper tomorow....

[balmy topaz]

How long is it

[tribal cosmos]

Battlefield sniping always quite nice to play

Statisfying

[vivid vessel]

2h

[tribal cosmos]

They really bounced back from failure of 5

[balmy topaz]

How did you not do that in 1 sitting

Just microwave a steak

And gg

[vivid vessel]

its boring

[tribal cosmos]

Chef mikey

[balmy topaz]

Sorted

[vivid vessel]

and i was called to play wow

[balmy topaz]

Ohh

[frank finch]

he is addicted to wow thats why

[balmy topaz]

Zac rust when?

[tribal cosmos]

Bro fotm is a real thing

[jolly geyser]

he cant play anything else

[tribal cosmos]

Guys survival hunter op no

I think ittl be stacked js

[balmy topaz]

He used to play rust I’m pretty sure

[limpid plank]

do i let killing spree finish casting or should i stop it when i hit 7CP?

[balmy topaz]

Stop 7 cps

[tribal cosmos]

Imagine an ability so bad

You stop a spender during its cast

https://tenor.com/view/scream-loud-scream-girl-kid-hispanic-girl-gif-3761151244536557927

Remove killing spree uncap blade flurry give downtime fix

[balmy topaz]

Blizzard: best I can do is 8% buff

[tribal cosmos]

Fixed outlaw gg

Takes like 20 seconds of thought

Rogue is an outdated relic of thebpast

SLAYER ROGUEEEEE

[balmy topaz]

Halfing ks duration would fix it

[jolly geyser]

they should lower KS cd and cast and its ez

[tribal cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-gif-26381638

Yall want a slayer class

Hust saying

[lunar thorn]

oh yeah they did change KS finally, probably only because they were forced to

[jolly geyser]

yes,with mick gordon every KS

[lunar thorn]

I guess that's what they did

[shell fossil]

no they should just pick two specs and rework them for high apm

[tulip sparrow]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[shell fossil]

slayer aesthetic

[jolly geyser]

https://youtu.be/zZMg9ryeWOw?t=85 KS should feel like this

[tribal cosmos]

RIP AND TEAR ABILITY

Killing spree is just BFG

[jolly geyser]

make KS quake insta gib

[cinder relic]

There's already a slayer hero talent

[weary fog]

fun fight

[jolly geyser]

vanish work fine on that?

gz

[shell fossil]

they could give prot warrior bloodlust

but they don't

[weary fog]

usually yeah

send it in the same gcd as bte to be safe tho cuz sometimes brann can troll u

[shell fossil]

[jolly geyser]

looks like a fun fight against her, get the heart rate going

[weary fog]

yeah the last 5%ish, i had adrenaline rush rolling irl

[limpid plank]

i should straight up not use ambush even in stealth on KiR right?

[jolly geyser]

no

[limpid plank]

so i should still use it?

[shell fossil]

nope

[jolly geyser]

I cant read

[shell fossil]

you get used to using sinister strike as a builder

[jolly geyser]

said no instead of yes

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

[shell fossil]

imagine if outlaw had deathstalker though

https://tenor.com/view/cacodemon-cacodemon-roll-gif-25794206

[limpid plank]

its so weird, is there a reason why ambush is just bad for kir?

for pistol shot?

[gaunt phoenix]

cant proc opportunity mainly

[shell fossil]

audacity isn't talented for one, what solo said and tight spender isn't run i think

we get the deft maneuvers with kir tho so cp generation feels better once you get used to it

[twin valley]

just wana double check on our opener we do our BtE until out of subterfuge. then KS, then vanish back into BtEs?

[white marten]

We’re gonna get a pretty sweet buff once RTWF ends

[mighty pivot]

assuming you are talking about trickster, the prio is KS > Coup de Grace > Vanish

[twin valley]

yuh ty

[tender wedge]

downtime didnt screw you too badly?

[proven ocean]

last tier healer trinket sims better than dimensius hc trinket

[weary fog]

nah u just hold a vanish or adr for every cup game

[proven ocean]

which does 0 dmg btw

dimensius trinket is omega ass fuck bad

[tender wedge]

feels like the comet proc is missing a zero

[violet ferry]

Midnight PTR looking 🔥 🔥 🔥

[desert tendon]

[late swallow]

Kir being forced to ambush

Youd cycle marks so fast tho

In subt

[vivid vessel]

i mena outlaw ds would be crazy

but on god no one wants mark

[vivid vessel]

also assa cycle the same speed on average

if not faste

[late swallow]

Ong fr?

[vivid vessel]

its 1 gcd to build up in aoe

[unborn basin]

dang EverQuest was fun back in early 2000s

[late swallow]

Surely subterfuge cycling + bf is faster

Not every fok global is guaranteed full cps

Doesn’t seal fate have an icd

Or er not seal fate

The other one

Crits = extra cps

[sudden fulcrum]

Naw man. My memories of that were being afraid to explore because I might die and lose XP and my gear. Trains to the zone boundary and getting demolished. My brother trolling me into attacking a guard and dying

[vivid vessel]

in aoe kinda

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-kitten-tinycat-kitten-hat-cat-hat-gif-25442024

[lime lake]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-stare-gif-9491705631634345017

[cold tide]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[frail veldt]

Yeah in AOE it is for sure

[tall lion]

is it weird to love outlaw as much as i do? like, i feel like i should dabble in other specs lol

[frail veldt]

Esp going later into the expac when you have a decent amount of crit

[latent belfry]

same but i also dabble in fury/arms aswell. only alil bit tho

[timid shoal]

do we have sims for tier?

[upbeat tundra]

OUTLAW SUPREMACY

[tribal cosmos]

Is that a 0

[vivid vessel]

thats an ecodome

prolly 18

or 17

[tribal cosmos]

So its a 0

[vivid vessel]

that woulkd be a ptr key

[tribal cosmos]

Sounds like

Youre just sayin is a 0

@vivid vessel bf6 when

[zinc briar]

should i play a second rogue as alter?

for playing assa

because of diff stats

[vivid vessel]

no lol

[zinc briar]

i cant play assa and outlaw if i take or craft weapons/gear with haste for outlaw

[vivid vessel]

you will never have similar gear on your alt till super late into the season tho

[tribal cosmos]

You can have similar early gear

But once mythic starts its gg

[zinc briar]

thats why i should play a rogue looting haste and another looting mastery

because outlaw on prog will suks

[covert heart]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[tribal cosmos]

So 5 tank tazavesh

[upbeat tundra]

Is 18 eco

[vivid vessel]

Im good

[midnight agate]

Ok guys, hit me hard. How we doing this patch? Somehow Fuus spreadsheet always shows good numbers but we just get hate

[upbeat tundra]

really good but unfortunately you will have to be doing your rotation mostly on the dummies in dornogol since lfg is the way it is unlike every other competitive computer game from the past 15 years

[craggy barn]

i think this guys batman

[upbeat tundra]

now that you say that, i can see it

[torpid fiber]

Outlaw is vaguely mediocre at top 0.1% keys and so despite being gigabusted in weeklies you'll never get invites just how it always is

[midnight agate]

No I'm not

[upbeat tundra]

didnt zac do the highest key level last season

[midnight agate]

[torpid fiber]

Yeah

[upbeat tundra]

doesnt that make the class more than just "vaguely mediocre at top 0.1% keys"

if you do the highest keys in the game what more can you want

[torpid fiber]

yeah that was last season smh

[upbeat tundra]

when he does it again this season can i ping you

[torpid fiber]

No I said "vaguely" which just means "not in the top meta comp"

[verbal pumice]

how you beat an uh is wild

[torpid fiber]

If we're played in tgp #1 #winning #gamer comps then you can ping me

[upbeat tundra]

if he did the literal highest key in the game with a comp doesn't that mean thats a meta comp

[torpid fiber]

It should have been!

But meta is what's played not what's good, imo

[upbeat tundra]

i do not understand the logic

[torpid fiber]

there weren't other top groups playing law

[upbeat tundra]

the physical damage classes played together and did the top key in the world

the best magic ones did the same

is it illegal to have 2 meta comps?

if there's two specific comps that can do the highest keys in the world im pretty sure that just by default means there's two meta comps

[torpid fiber]

The way I see it is that there weren't enough people playing it, so even if it was really good it didn't filter down to the average player as "meta"

[daring oxide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255110288081162311/1318256041112109106/catnum-cat-nom.gif

[upbeat tundra]

so popular = meta? ret + bm confirmed meta

[torpid fiber]

Yes

Ret+bm are meta in weekly keys

[daring oxide]

what if my weekly keys are 2s 🙁

[torpid fiber]

Doesn't mean they're good it's just what's popular

[torpid fiber]

Dw there's even more of them there

[daring oxide]

i am very bad

[upbeat tundra]

we were never talking about weekly keys in the convo even once

the highest keys in the world have two specific comps

that means two comps are meta

[daring oxide]

i get out dpsed by shadow priest in level 4 keys 🙁

[upbeat tundra]

and the classes inside those comps are infact meta

[torpid fiber]

Ret+bm playrate wasn't high at highest key level

[daring oxide]

outlaw needs buff

we are very far behind 😭

[torpid fiber]

Outlaw was a very very strong spec last season to be clear, and I'm not debating that.

I think we just have different uses of the term "meta"

[mighty pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/black-void-cat-staring-kitty-gif-8717514050482760491

[torpid fiber]

Outlaw's issue is often a community perception one in keys below top keys, and in top keys it varies between seasons

[daring oxide]

stolen

https://tenor.com/view/black-void-cat-staring-kitty-gif-8717514050482760491

nightfury pussy cat

[upbeat tundra]

think we need to define meta here, i'm saying meta is "objectively capable of doing the highest content" and you're saying "most commonly played/accepted at the top level"

[daring oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-bonk-bonk-cat-attack-white-cat-bonk-camera-gif-12579285308205623581

[torpid fiber]

Yeah

[upbeat tundra]

if everyone logs into triple windwalker for funsies tand does high keys that wouldn't make it meta

there's a reason these groups form

[torpid fiber]

I use my definition of meta bc it's more useful in pvp game contexts, where you're planning for a meta and hence you want to prepare based on play rates rather than worrying about the 1% popularity deck/character that's still really strong

[upbeat tundra]

its because they are strong, the most efficient tactic available

[torpid fiber]

Meta doesn't mean that, that's a backronym

[upbeat tundra]

im well aware but it applioes

[torpid fiber]

Meta comes from metagame

I disagree that it applies

[daring oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/derp-cat-human-cat-funny-cat-weird-cat-not-amused-gif-16253983438413476179

[upbeat tundra]

you know these people doing the highest keys are the ones who are shaping the meta

its showing what's possible

[daring oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-tabby-tongue-meow-gif-11230041

[mighty pivot]

Mfw my pixshur is stolen (or solten)

[daring oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/giga-gigacat-cat-mewing-mogging-gif-12429734670640119345

[torpid fiber]

They are, and unarguably the zac group made outlaw more meta than it would have been otherwise.

[daring oxide]

i am glad everyyone agrees outlaw is the best

[upbeat tundra]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[daring oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-cat-cat-sleep-meme-cat-tired-gif-3616860129181414308

[mighty pivot]

it's all thanks to the vigilant balance team who nerfed BF before outlaw became overwhelmingly OP

[torpid fiber]

I did get an invite to a +7 in S1 once by someone who was like "I only invited you because you're the first outlaw I've seen all season so I want to see how good the spec is" so maybe being offmeta is good

[daring oxide]

its ok we are getting buffed soon dont worryu

we need another 20% aura

we have to be tuned so we can do uncapped aoe damage like other classes on 8 targets

🙂

[mighty pivot]

we are aura farming frfr

[white marten]

Blade flurry uncap soon

[daring oxide]

ye

outlaw realy bad right now

so we need buf

[white marten]

Not too big though

[daring oxide]

ye

it can be gentle buf like 10% aura

that is good

[white marten]

~10.2% will do

[daring oxide]

hell just make it 11%

why not

no need for any .s

[white marten]

Blizz likes their .s

[daring oxide]

ye but .s silly

i like ints

not floats

[mighty pivot]

round it up to 100% to make it easier to read imo

[daring oxide]

ye

10, 20, 30

[white marten]

HO buff by ~15%

[daring oxide]

those are better

HO nerf by 15% u mean?

no need to play ho

we have kir kiss

[white marten]

We have 1fth kir

[daring oxide]

thats ok make fth a one point talent

2/2 talents are silly

[white marten]

Yes

Better

[daring oxide]

all these things they can do to fix outlaw

so easy

[white marten]

Make underhanded upperhand and crackshot baseline

[mighty pivot]

they will do that, but leave it exactly the same effect per point

[daring oxide]

yes

[torpid fiber]

Also I had a look the other day and I couldn't figure out how to get a WA to load dependent on points in a talent so I might have to ask the WA discord

[daring oxide]

UHUH and CS should 100% be baseline i agree

[white marten]

Underhanded upperhand and Crackshot are MUST takes. Need to be baseline at this point

[craggy barn]

must takes doesnt mean have to be baseline

[white marten]

Its literally the bread and butter of the spec

[daring oxide]

and replace them with a new talent called UHUH x2 (doubles the duration of subterfuge), and CS Enhanced (makes it so that your crackshots increase ace chance by x2 (35% to 70%))

[white marten]

Its the entire outlaw identity

Right now

[daring oxide]

ye

also reduce our ADR gcd to 0.6secs

[mighty pivot]

that would probably need a custom check because by default WA only checks for learned/unlearned/neutral, however, you might be able to achieve the same by combining talent checks

[daring oxide]

0.8 is too slow now

[craggy barn]

uhuh and crackshot are prime for removal of they ever want to make another drastic change

[upbeat tundra]

i have the ultimate aoe fix for outlaw - precise cuts should uncap blade flurry, make bf do more damage per target below 8 targets like it does now, and make it also do less damage per target above 8 targets

[torpid fiber]

Yeah, I could do a workaround but I'd rather not if possible

[white marten]

Blade flurry should be 8 targets by default.

[daring oxide]

if they remove uhuh and crackshot they should just delete all wow files while they at it

[craggy barn]

sure

[daring oxide]

just delete the wow repository

no need for game anymore

crackshot and uhuh is the game

if u delete those two

dead game

[craggy barn]

but uhuh and cs are pretty game changing from actual baseline rogue that theysl should still be talents

[white marten]

Just delete system32 in the wow servers

[daring oxide]

ye

just delete wow and make WoO

world of overwatch

i'll play reaper instead

[craggy barn]

project titan

[white marten]

Delete retail, delete MoP. Fresh classic servers, start again.

[daring oxide]

shame there is no outlaw rogue on overwatch

that would be fun

[white marten]

Combat rogue supremacy

[daring oxide]

i would rather be a frost bolt mage...

than combat rogue

and still die inside

[white marten]

The good ol days

[torpid fiber]

I might be able to just use code to make a custom load condition

[white marten]

You remember when you had to manually cast SnD?

[quaint mauve]

lizard lizard lizard

[craggy barn]

lol

[daring oxide]

sad times

RIP SND

[torpid fiber]

shadowlands 59 minutes gm extension snd

[white marten]

F in chat for SnD

[craggy barn]

u can still do it if u wanted

[white marten]

F

[craggy barn]

pepw

[daring oxide]

i loved spamming it between pulls to reset cds with CDR

that was the best SND implementation and interaction

[torpid fiber]

I think casting snd was fine in SL but as soon as we had anything else to care about in the rotation in df it was shit

[white marten]

Same

Big brain move tbh

Separated the men from the boys

[daring oxide]

i bet these bugs were really features, just wow team aren't very good at providing useful tooltips to explain these features such as container theory, snd cdr resets, original double coup etc

they gotta step up their game instead of gaslighting us

[white marten]

Screaming at the tank to pull faster cuz he was killing my ADR uptime

Double coup ftw

[craggy barn]

they gotta update adr tooltip lil

[daring oxide]

now i hate it when tank pull too fast

i cant restealth

i get very angy

my subterfuge

[white marten]

Facts

[daring oxide]

gggggggggrrrrrrrrr

i lvoe it

[white marten]

Specially when i play Ass bleed

[daring oxide]

when they chain pull when last mob is at 5% hp

its very good

i love that

make me happi

[white marten]

But then

Dont chain pull into St boss

Makes me angry

[daring oxide]

well

[craggy barn]

bro i hate my tanks asking if i need restealth between packs

wasting time

[daring oxide]

they should just pull pack into ST boss

that good

[craggy barn]

just pull

[daring oxide]

lovely deft funnel

[craggy barn]

good player will figure it out

[white marten]

Yeah- but they rarely do

Tanks are weak

They have no spine

[daring oxide]

bro y u calling me out

[white marten]

No faith

[daring oxide]

i want my restealth

100% subterfuge uptime overalls

[craggy barn]

get called out

[daring oxide]

200% adr uptime

100% suberfuge uptime

6 buffs 199% uptime

[white marten]

Give me back acrobatic strikes

[daring oxide]

BF 500% uptime

[white marten]

Outlaw ONLY

[daring oxide]

all thank to restealth

ok bed for real im going crazy

[craggy barn]

just get the wa that multipirs ur details numbers

[white marten]

give outlaw Shadow dance again

[daring oxide]

i am not noooba like zeross

zeross big nooba

[craggy barn]

u yapping like ross

[daring oxide]

no

i never yap

[white marten]

1 charge of vanish and 2 of shadow dance

[daring oxide]

pedro bigger yapper tonight

he yapping about sahdow dance

that is yap

[white marten]

Were both yappers

[daring oxide]

i am no yaps

[white marten]

We feed into each others yaps

[daring oxide]

zomb more yap

i am pure

[white marten]

Its yap morphin time’

[daring oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/eepy-sleep-how-i-go-to-bed-sleep-cat-gif-12050577770809276341

[daring oxide]

it bed time

[white marten]

Gn bai

Thats the end of the yap session. We will resume when Vai awakes

[wintry solar]

https://tenor.com/view/hideo-kojima-credits-video-game-gif-14466133

[lime lake]

https://tenor.com/view/hideo-kojima-kojima-hideo-metal-gear-death-stranding-gif-7810496228253906505

[ripe ibex]

what would that do

we already always have something to do

not like we are just mindlessly cycling subterfuge now

[copper radish]

love how i can have brann tricks'd and vanish on Nexus and still reset the boss RIP

[dim parrot]

Has anyone done outlaw on streets in ptr

Wondering how AR uptime is

[wintry solar]

Extra adr pause

[bright lodge]

How to hide energy bar on zac's class wa? If I click never to load it hides abilities

[vagrant olive]

okay, neither my pistol shot, nor my between the eyes are working, what do

known bug?

[round compass]

Ive had issues with the ranged abilities on the krolusks in the new zone, any obscured target really

At least some of the other abilities work on them

[vagrant olive]

YES thats what im attacking

ok interesting

ok good so its just them maybe, thanks

[frail veldt]

Yeah no los to those mobs

Shits bugged af

[tender wedge]

Yeah it’s definitely…a BUG 😎

[lime lake]

i dont think you have the qualifications to identify it properly

[elder phoenix]

so wait

outlaw is going with keep it rolling build???

[tribal cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/blunts-high-smoky-joints-wasted-gif-16332184

Ye

[prime umbra]

Does Heavy Hitter affect KS?

[wintry solar]

No

[quaint tiger]

can someone correct my understanding? this seems to suggest that if vanish is 15s away from capping, and KS is 5 seconds away, we send vanish? based on the 'ANY 1' conditional

thought we used to hold vanish if KS is coming off cooldown

[gaunt phoenix]

it means over 20s

[quaint tiger]

right, that is what i remembered. so it shouldn't be "ANY 1" of the following then. it should say "any 1" of the ADR and Vanish conditional "AND" KS is more than 20s away

[gaunt phoenix]

it reads correctly if each condition is treated as being separated by a full stop (period)

[quaint tiger]

but if the 3 conditionals are separate and any 1 will send vanish, we would vanish when KS is 5s off cd

which is correct for the ADR conditional, but not for the vanish charges conditional

[gaunt phoenix]

1. send vanish if you would lose ar
2. send vanish if you would overcap
3. send vanish after coup if ks isn't ready soon

[quaint tiger]

okay so we don't hold vanish for KS that is <20s away?

that was what i was trying to clarify, since i recall we sat at vanish 2 charges last tier when KS was coming up

[gaunt phoenix]

you always sent vanish if near cap

[quaint tiger]

ah... TIL

thanks for the clarification

[lime lake]

np

[cinder relic]

Is it worded poorly

Should I reword it

[quaint tiger]

nah i think i just misremembered something

if not overcapping on vanish is more important than wasting KS cd reduction then it is correctly phrased

[queen pine]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[tight kernel]

Anyone kill ky'veza

[sudden fulcrum]

shindig did it as sub

[tight kernel]

Outlaw

[sudden fulcrum]

i don't think the spec matters as much as doing the mechanics but you do you

[royal ermine]

matters when bran dies and you press vanish and it resets the boss

[weary fog]

yah

[tight kernel]

Whats tech

with vanish

cause my bran is trolling

[barren skiff]

that is the most tilting shit ever

[weary fog]

send vanish in the same gcd as bte

[barren skiff]

yeah sometimes it still seems like it wants to bug out

[weary fog]

and also if u vanish right before the portals go out, it can be kinda janky and make only two spawn/brann stays in the middle

[tight kernel]

I feel its a good eye fight lmao

[weary fog]

its definitely a solid 8 minutes of pure locking in

once u have the mechs down, the only scary part is brann trolling u by forgetting to heal during the suck so try and have defensives up for that

[tender wedge]

or brann jumping into the void puddle and dying like a clown

i did about 10 pulls on outlaw then switched to assa and took maybe 3

this is just single ? though

and it was probably just practice more than any spec being better

watched a guy take over 11 mins to do it on a mage before, it's not a dps race so you're better on whatever spec you're most comfortable on

[bright crane]

What’s the reward for it

[lime lake]

a skin for a mount we dont have yet

and dopamine

[vivid dune]

i did it on sub but id just wait for the gcd to finish and then mash vanish and shadowstrike as fast as possible 1 after another and she didnt reset

but if i vanished while gcd was rolling sometimes she reset

[sullen wyvern]

is dawnbreaker bugged?

[fathom bramble]

sometimes

[sullen wyvern]

so anoying

[fathom bramble]

if the boat is just gone try relogging

[sullen wyvern]

when you walk in mobs wont spawn

[fathom bramble]

haven't seen that one yet

try resetting or reforming the group with a diff leader

[copper radish]

is the twilight helm enchant still a thing for s3?

[wintry solar]

Did someone ping me and delete the message?

[sudden iron]

found it funny at first then didnt

imma send it again so u see

[lime lake]

[wintry solar]

Oh idk

Great movie

Because I guess it's not technically a builder

[worldly shale]

Sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit

[random geyser]

having trouble finding how far ahead was FB in ST vs Trickster?

nvm found it

[frail veldt]

why does the cloak have less secondary stats than a lower ilvl cloak

[glass mortar]

get the crafted gem

[frail veldt]

could you elaborate

is that a socketed thing you buy from ah

also where is hashim

[dim parrot]

JC

[cinder relic]

u have to craft the epic version of the fibers

[dim parrot]

Crafting

[glass mortar]

u go work order

search fiber

[dim parrot]

It’s a gem

[glass mortar]

its like 200 gold

its better then the one they give u

[frail veldt]

oh nice

[glass mortar]

why?

[frail veldt]

so whast hashim do

[glass mortar]

whoooooo knows

[frail veldt]

is that relevant?

[cinder relic]

Keep doin the quests bro

[frail veldt]

like is my cloak not activated

[frail veldt]

im done

[cinder relic]

Theres another purple triangle on ur map[

[glass mortar]

go delve

u can upgrade ur cloak more from delve currency but theres more quest

[frail veldt]

ah that one says to find shadanis not hashim

[cinder relic]

Just do the quest

trust

[frail veldt]

I figured hashim might be a vendor

they gave literally no information

lol

[wintry solar]

I thought the giant purple triangle was enough

[frail veldt]

yeah I just didnt know it was tied to the cloak activation

didnt want to continue on with the main story and forget to trigger something for the cloak

[cinder relic]

bro do the quests

[frail veldt]

Yeah I just didnt want to miss something and have to double back

Didnt know the next quest led to hashim

Also ive noticed a new stealth bug this patch where my character will be "stealthed" but im not actually in stealth

like theyre sneaking around

but I dont have the stealth buff

but my stealth macro has a !stealth check so my stealth button stops working lol

and I have to press the stealth from my spellbook to go into stealth

[icy cedar]

gawd damn, simc wants me to totally regem everything for haste

how much haste i want these days

[frail veldt]

!haste

[ornate heath]

A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The HO build gets Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[proven ocean]

Just do the quests…

[quaint mauve]

it wasnt 200...

[hidden bay]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[frank finch]

Weekly cutie pic

[frail veldt]

that cat looks conked out

lol

[frank finch]

lol

[quaint mauve]

surely someone else responds to me in trade chat...

[upper hawk]

i can help

[fair oak]

3k

[wooden herald]

So I read the !haste thing and I see it says 20% is close enough but would it be preferred to get to 25%?

[lime plank]

When are we looking to drop LOU Tier for new tier?

[proven ocean]

?

[craggy barn]

its close enough in that its over not under

[proven ocean]

It scales to 25 after alacrity

It doesnt say go to 25% haste

[craggy barn]

19.xx is the number

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/tatertot267-bruh-bigfart124-suboptimal-gif-21211286

[fallow fractal]

i played sin and sub for some days now and i think i stuck with outlaw way more enjoyable

[tribal cosmos]

How outlaw has fallen

Talking about haste

Sigh

[swift otter]

Usually 2pc new tier + 2pc old tier will outsim 4pc old tier

[lean bronze]

14min of ky'veza delve with double question mark

ass on fire all the time

[neat mist]

14 minutes is kinda wild

[fallow fractal]

why is ist 655 and not 678 as the pin states

[warped tide]

U gotta upgrade it max of adv track is 678

[fallow fractal]

ah ok thought it but it didnt state it XD

[tender wedge]

brann just heals you, there's like zero danger of dying other than to the one shots so

there's no dps race

[neat mist]

I know

Still though

Maybe gear diff

[placid blaze]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[rotund zodiac]

!haste

[ornate heath]

A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The HO build gets Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[rotund zodiac]

cool, I hate haste requirement

still the same

[balmy topaz]

Frfr

What’s even better

HO sucks

[rotund zodiac]

I miss having 0% haste in DF

[willow portal]

will the gilded crest cap next week be 90 or 180

[hasty warren]

Hi pirates

[grim spear]

should be 180

I remember it was like that in S2.

all crest caps are the same

[willow portal]

its kinda interesting with the heroic tiers and vault drops now, as max vault is 707 so start of mythic track therefore you can just upgrade heroic items without loss when thinking about vault

from raid the lowest drop is 710 tho so there would still be a potential loss

[night dragon]

this might be a bit of a weird question idk - is there somewhere where there is 8 training dummies (or more than 5) to test burst on more than 5 targets to test target cap haha? Just curious 😄

[hasty warren]

I think not

the max I know is 5

[night dragon]

damn would be nice - alright thanks! 😄

[hasty warren]

u always can ask ppl to put some turnip next to dummies xd

[night dragon]

loool true

[red zinc]

Maybe one day

Shadowlands was super cursed target dummies so im at least glad we consistently get 5t again

[fluid meadow]

do we know the boots value dmg boost for back? looks disgusting to farm that item from raid

[fervent garden]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=242494/lily-of-the-eternal-weave?class=4&hero=52&ilvl=723&spec=260

pulled champion lvl in M0. deceent for now i guess

[real flax]

hello everyone

i ve got question , do you think for the raid Outlaw will be slightly better than assa in general or they equivalant depending of the boss

[quaint mauve]

i personally think sin would be ahead in prog :p

[real flax]

ok so assa

[quaint mauve]

yerp

[grim spear]

I think either works, as long as you’re not aiming for HoF

overall, mostly assa for its burst and execute

but outlaw has mobility, tanky and cleave

just play whichever you like most

[limpid plank]

what is the bis S2 belt disc?

[worldly shale]

Would it be logical to use t2 while testing taza hard mode?

[hardy vault]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[willow portal]

what is the crafting strategy on outlaw

do we just go mythic crest sword next week?

[real flax]

i played outlaw since 2 years only in M+ . but i have joined a guild who CE every season so i need to be opti for raid progress this week

[mighty pivot]

ok but there are people who get CE as outlaw every season. If you are not in a high ranking CE guild then it's not as important as you'd think

[grim spear]

spec doesn’t matter at all if not aiming for a Hall of Fame

except If we’re talking about last season, bc KS could’ve meant having to do several extra pulls on every boss

for a normal CE, damage difference is a complete non-issue

[real flax]

it is actually a high rank CE guilde from europe

[grim spear]

then you should go sub/assa

[real flax]

ok thanks

[near rock]

spec also doesn’t matter for hall of fame if you’re like a turbo one trick of hell

But yeah in most cases if you think you’re being a detriment to your guilds progress playing off meta then just don’t do it

[bright lodge]

Does anyone know to hide energy bar on zac's class WA? If I click never to load it hides abilities. I made transparent every of it's details, but I know it's not the right way

[mighty pivot]

then the abilities are anchored to it, you'd have to reanchor them to something else and then you can set it to never load

[toxic laurel]

Im trying to list all the season 3 m+ enrage dispells with Shiv, has anyone made a list already or do i start making my own ?

[jolly geyser]

Havent seen any lists

[toxic laurel]

Alrighty i'm gonna start making 👍

[flat needle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB-lf1nlxHs

It's official now, we are the most unfun spec

[sudden fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-very-sad-anyway-loki-sad-loki-gif-22079369

i don't even know who this guy is

[flat needle]

Me neither, someone posted it in my discord lol

[spare dome]

outlaw is the only fun spec*

[balmy topaz]

Not fun cus numbers don’t go big?

[flat needle]

Not fun cause he is doom spamming sinister strike i guess

[shell fossil]

marksman is s tier

mage friend said it was gonna cause an aneurism when they ran some keys with it

lol, lmao even.

[balmy topaz]

Thing is tho

He probably plays HO

[spare dome]

yea he just says that outlaw is not fun cos it doesnt do dmg

hm

[balmy topaz]

That negates the reason of the tier list

I hate people

[shell fossil]

dude probably thinks quag/clodsire are uninspired

yaaaaaaaawn, disliked

[pliant wind]

wut

outlaw zzz hahahah

monk tier c

nah this guy is drunk

[trim harbor]

is outlaw simming higher in st or am i just lost af

[wintry solar]

L take tbh

True outlaws play regardless of tuning

[worldly shale]

Whats our bis trinks for this season?

[edgy phoenix]

Antenna probs

[proven ocean]

anyone has contacts with the top chinese rogues in the world

@cedar kernel

do u know if they understand english

[grim spear]

if you mean 叶落初冬

[proven ocean]

idk who that is

but

if hes the best chinese player sure

[grim spear]

He doesn’t understand english, but using a translation tool should be fine.

[proven ocean]

would be nice to talk to him

ye

cuz

u know his discord?

[grim spear]

I don’t know him personally, but I should be able to get in touch. I’ll ask around.

[proven ocean]

sure would be great

[grim spear]

no he does not use discord

[proven ocean]

not just CN regions

[proven ocean]

oh

im gonna delete that then

nvm then

anyways if u think he can make a discord acc

[balmy topaz]

They have their on app thing don’t they

[grim spear]

I’ll ask him if he’s interested.

[proven ocean]

ok

u read what i asked u tho ye?

[cedar kernel]

zeross

[grim spear]

bc discord is rarely used in CN

[cedar kernel]

i am sry i am a nobody

[torpid fiber]

[cedar kernel]

so no one would like to talk with me in CN

i am sry mate

i cant help

💀

[proven ocean]

he has to make a discord acc im afraid

[proven ocean]

np

aohajin has it sorted

[cedar kernel]

yea thats nice

[proven ocean]

anyone has chainbleed's discord

from NA

nvm found him

[desert tendon]

bac you aint a nobody

you re the greatest

[willow portal]

this quest doesnt list the new rep but the dungeon weekly gave it as an option. Will this also give new rep`?

[frank finch]

do it and let us know

[willow portal]

[vivid vessel]

bro

doing delves

is crazy

[willow portal]

crazy chill

[vivid vessel]

its the most brainrot content