sicne i ran ho in s2
#outlaw
gaunt phoenix
ye
sturdy grove
am I dumb, where on cudgel does it say anything about reseting vanishg haha
oblique trench
first melee -> vanish resets
gaunt phoenix
it resets when you leave combat
gaunt phoenix
it doesnt necessarily tell you that how it works
sturdy grove
I misread that soh ard
gaunt phoenix
ah
sturdy grove
THAT MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE
worldly shale
Womp womp
sturdy grove
😱
I haven't pve'd this expac im dusty and apparently my eyes are too
gunna do some M+ this season tho
sturdy grove
kinda bummed the hero title isn't astral like pvp
worldly shale
Ok swapping
sturdy grove
Less cool less chad
worldly shale
Fk
tender wedge
trying to lean into the new raid theme, stun dispel OP if you're bad like me
sturdy grove
I am heavily biased though
blissful zinc
How do you use KS after the new update
Do you send it at 7cp or use it as cp builder
worldly shale
So far i used it at 5-7
worldly shale
When it maxes i just send vanish bte
sturdy grove
not having to rely on people for dispels and stuff feels great
You are in contorl of your own destiny every 2minutes
worldly shale
not having to rely on people for dispels and stuff feels great
Hooman has unstun me mortal button
Nelf has hi, bye
But nelf is too sissy
blissful zinc
You are in contorl of your own destiny every 2minutes
Why 2minutes
snow stratus
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
worldly shale
not having to rely on people for dispels and stuff feels great
fkn shit
AND U KNOW WHAT THE MAIL IS
I KNOW IT BEFORE CHECKING
its a dude sending an ad to join his boosting shit
ffs
normal forge
sturdy grove
Why 2minutes
stoneform
bright crane
Damn son really committed to OL
normal forge
just sharing some lil happiness
hallow spoke
use MH over capos/crowd?
golden epoch
Anyone know how much extra power this new cloak gives you?
normal forge
Anyone know how much extra power this new cloak gives you?
4% so i heard, might be wrong
golden epoch
4% so i heard, might be wrong
Thanks 👍
random stirrup
3.5% rn on sim for my character
also does fatebound not attempt to hold vanish for after killing spree is on cooldown? i assume not because its not in the faq but seems like a condition that might make sense given how much damage it does
random stirrup
tight kernel
We use old builds with old tier. That does include FB no KS build?
gaunt phoenix
You would use ks now
tight kernel
Anything else would change? Between the Trickers HO build for raid and FB?
tight kernel
Would you look at FB now for fights like mugzee?
gaunt phoenix
i dont know the mythic encounter so i really couldn't say
near rock
Would you look at FB now for fights like mugzee?
yes u would absolutely look at fb for mythic mugzee
tight kernel
hm I wonder if same for gally and rest of raid
tight kernel
I think Rik would be ho for sure
same with vex and cauld
so prob sprocket, mug and gally fb?
random stirrup
idk its so far ahead now that it probably has to be consistent aoe
even vexie is mostly st
magic shuttle
you do get to cleave a bit during cauldron when bosses clash
random stirrup
for my character the 2 trees are equal at 3 targets and fb still does more to main
frail veldt
Lol
random stirrup
yea thats mb im too sub pilled
desert tendon
tight kernel
LOL
frail veldt
Even if you did
tight kernel
Love that logic Censi 
desert tendon
idk how fb cleave works
random stirrup
u def get to cleave
frail veldt
The ads are gonna take damage from FB
desert tendon
but sounds so shit
frail veldt
On ape side
desert tendon
how did i play fb outlaw in S1
frail veldt
So
keen belfry
should i play league or cs
desert tendon
wait
that s true actually
even the ball u gotta kick or i dont remember
take damage
random stirrup
The ads are gonna take damage from FB
is it enough to risk 10% st though
keen belfry
should i play league or cs
hello
random stirrup
and mugzee has the same issue
tight kernel
even with new patch. I would think HO for Vex > Rik and Gally
FB for Sprocket and Mugzee prob
keen belfry
so you think i should play CS?
desert tendon
and cs is good but i m back on valorant recently. Love the dynamic of the game even if i m gonna get bored in couple month
scenic loom
Anyone else enjoying the new KS ? lol
keen belfry
i dont mind it
tight kernel
Yeah just wish it would prio target
keen belfry
its still a poop button
keen belfry
im so bad at cs now
i hate cs u cant just go play it without playing it
u geet shit on
scenic loom
i do agree prior would be nice, its better than before defo lol
keen belfry
does anyone wanna link me a 1440p 27inch monitor rn
covert kestrel
look at me smurfing
keen belfry
does anyone wanna link me a 1440p 27inch monitor rn
@frail veldt
desert tendon
oddisey samsung
frail veldt
Yo
desert tendon
gg
desert tendon
yep
frail veldt
It's been a while since I shopped monitors
keen belfry
144 is good
frail veldt
Honestly I don't like hdr
keen belfry
not curved
frail veldt
Everything has sync nowadays
desert tendon
oh mewo i bought one recently
frail veldt
Just size and resolution lol
desert tendon
i discovered some are still not
worldly shale
I got 260hz 1440p asus
But thinking of going for oled tbh
keen belfry
i just want a good 27inch monitor, i have a good 30 some inch monitor and a piss 24inch 144hz 1080p monitor that iw anna replace
desert tendon
oled is a luxury
keen belfry
playing shooters on a 34 inch monitor sucks
frail veldt
oled is for people with more money than sense
frail veldt
unless you do professional color correction or video editing
oled is pretty unecessary
desert tendon
oled is great for solo game / professionnal activities
otherwise dogshit waste of money
frail veldt
samsungs a good choice generally
desert tendon
cant go bad with odyssey
desert tendon
34inch 2k?
frail veldt
bro
desert tendon
oh 32, that s ok, not recommanded but if you re not a fps player gaming at 5cm of your monitor
its fine
keen belfry
i have that one 34
desert tendon
no wonder they probably dont sell
frail veldt
get a second
desert tendon
keen belfry
i want a none 34 for when i play shooters
frail veldt
lololol
frail veldt
oh
keen belfry
shooters on 34 is so ass bro
gaunt phoenix
rdruid
quaint mauve
is it really an rdruid angle
frail veldt
ew hdr
keen belfry
oh is that why cheaper
frail veldt
idk
I Just dont like how hdr interacts with streaming software
makes shit very annoying
frank finch
hdr fucks with share x so i have to turn it off
ripe ibex
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Gaming-1440P-Monitor-VG27AQ3A/dp/B0BZR9TMBJ?crid=3J9...
that monitor is extremely goated
frail veldt
if its for gaming
desert tendon
currently trying out an AOC 27" 1440p i got for free
ripe ibex
i have that one
desert tendon
it s not bad at all
frail veldt
I mean shooters
desert tendon
just dont enable hdr ever
worldly shale
that monitor is extremely goated
I got that exact same one but with 260hz
ripe ibex
and it’s my absolute favorite monitor ever
keen belfry
itll be my middle monitor, ill play all my games on it
torpid fiber
Oh this makes sense
keen belfry
i wanna move my 34inch to the side
frail veldt
just dont enable hdr ever
yeah do that
ripe ibex
34 is crazy
keen belfry
34 is crazy
whole ass TV on my desk i swear
frail veldt
I still have a 24 as my second monitor
keen belfry
same
ripe ibex
whole ass TV on my desk i swear
whole neck rotation just to display rtb buffs
keen belfry
I still have a 24 as my second monitor
but mine is 1080p so i kinda want a new one
keen belfry
nono
keen belfry
1440p 34inch, and 2 24inch 1080ps
gaunt phoenix
i cannot explain the carnal urge to cancel ks
when you see 7cp
your brain yearns for the finish
craggy barn
solo wahts the %+- for canceling
timid idol
Weekly quest
craggy barn
and was supercharging ks ever simmed
gaunt phoenix
for fatebound it's a small gain, for trickster it's the same
ya i couldnt find anything there
desert tendon
wait
craggy barn
and theres no difference in what we use to cancel ks right?
desert tendon
even fatebound play ks?
timid idol
I always cancel it at max points lol
desert tendon
gg outlaw is dead
craggy barn
in terms of insta finishing vs RTB into finish
craggy barn
bet
gaunt phoenix
could be vanish
keen belfry
top frag carry god
craggy barn
what sens are u at
keen belfry
but im a rifler now i gave up the awp
desert tendon
craggy barn
u can bump it a bit if u want
craggy barn
i wouldnt go crazy tho
quaint mauve
every delve i do is taking off years off my lifespan
quaint mauve
bro
tender wedge
heh
keen belfry
do u guys think this disc knows i was goated at cs
quaint mauve
i think on main i have less than 20 delves done
keen belfry
desert tendon
do u guys think this disc knows i was goated at cs
people in here know more of zerocool cs than awang cs, sorry
keen belfry
wasnt zerocool semipro
desert tendon
damn
you re a tapper
bro is scream student
i think he was that good yea, idk i m not following at all i just see him streaming cs sometimes when pugging is rough (everytime)
keen belfry
i need to stop sending in cs clips or solo will ban me
desert tendon
i think that exact asus monitor is the one used on stage at LCK
i need to watch some footage but not now 
desert tendon
muted smelt
any weak aura wizards here ? using zacs killing spree sound WA replaced the sound with deadpools bang bang line from MvC but instead of just playing the sound for the duration it keeps stopping and restarting rapidly 🤣
open jasper
isnt this trinky sleeper strong? like a 9% dmg increase for 20s on some bosses. maybe OP in eco-dome aswell?
tender wedge
i think if its guaranteeing agi then maybe is acceptable
otherwise mastery proc is no bueno
unborn basin
how killing spree looks now
quaint wharf
red zinc
isnt this trinky sleeper strong? like a 9% dmg increase for 20s on some bosses. ...
What
Why would a trinket that just seems worse than every other on use be op
open jasper
you get 7k vers for 20s, imagine that in eco dome on full 8 target
has full main stat too
red zinc
Imagine just using signet?
tight kernel
@keen belfry
frail veldt
you get 7k vers for 20s, imagine that in eco dome on full 8 target
It says lowest secondary
red zinc
I mean hes talking about the extra effect on ethereals
open jasper
oh yeah signet xd, mb
frail veldt
How many mobs are ethereal
red zinc
But why even worry about conditionals when you can just get a better trinket that doesnt have that conditional
Some raid bosses and ecodome
keen belfry
<@177964030474977281>
Hey
red zinc
i think its only like 3 raid bosses that are ethereals though
gaunt phoenix
against ethereals it is not bad, though signet is just more vers i think
open jasper
first boss is machine
keen belfry
You like Triple Threat over Audacity?
Yeah
lime lake
ILLIDAN COMES BACK POG
fathom holly
double cudgel?
tight kernel
So looks like FB for ST and KIR for cleave. HO fell behind eh after patch eh?
velvet dagger
what do we think of this weapons? can get to 691 i think
glass mortar
kir for everything
tight kernel
Deft Maneuvers only for M+?
tender wedge
raid would need really regular add spawns for that to be worth i think
warped mantle
what do we think of this weapons? can get to 691 i think
craift MH rn and commit to outlaw
tight kernel
raid would need really regular add spawns for that to be worth i think
ah okay thank you king
sturdy grove
Lookin' good hoss
tight kernel
raid would need really regular add spawns for that to be worth i think
Mainly asked cause Guy has KIR Raid build with Deft
vital wave
@vivid vessel is there a way to add on your big Weakaura the global cooldown on the abilities spells ?
keen belfry
id guess that needs to be updated, id be surprised if deft beats heavyh hitter in raid
tender wedge
i mean definitely trust him over me but you want to think about what deft gives you vs exactly what's going on rather than a broad "this is for raid if there's adds"
keen belfry
but maybe cuz 1fth?
random stirrup
if you're committing to 1fth PC presumably there is a lot of cleave
random stirrup
and deft is probably good
keen belfry
and what ryldd says
tender wedge
that raid cleave trickster build is literally identical to the m+ one isn't it lol
random stirrup
playing 1fth without deft or without consistent deft procs sounds pretty miserable
keen belfry
i could see deft being required for 1fth, i could also see this being a misinput
tight kernel
so if u go 2fth, take out deft go heavy hitter?
keen belfry
it depends on pc
we only take pc in heavy raid aoe fights like stix
idk what the raid looks like, sounds like there are some pad fights
tender wedge
this is what i mean like its really not as simple as copy paste this for raid if adds
sure if you want to not think about it then it's fine
tight kernel
hm i guess if youre going kir its prob cause a lot of cleave so 1ft + deft would make sense, if its 3 targets or less you would go FB anyways right
tender wedge
but there's certainly finer tuning you can do
gaunt phoenix
in raid i dont think you go deft at all
keen belfry
normally, atleast from what i remember you kinda just try to get dancing steel and say gg
tight kernel
like if we were to visualize it old content, I would prob FB for OAB and prob most bosses except Rik, Vex and maybe Cauld
keen belfry
but pc is full committ to aoe
tender wedge
in raid i dont think you go deft at all
yeah its really hard to imagine a fight where enough adds are up long enough to get good value
tight kernel
oh and stix
tender wedge
maybe early
strong halo
so it is worth spamming nightfall for gear?
gaunt phoenix
i think you can spam it for veteran track
strong halo
veteran cudgel POG
strong halo
so whats in the vet loot table?
gaunt phoenix
how much vers does our bis profile have solo
27000 or so
keen belfry
27000 or so
without flask?
gaunt phoenix
10000 crit 27000 vers
but i mean 12000 crit 25000 vers is probably the same shit
gaunt phoenix
it is fatebound, which loses crit from trickster
also i think you can just start to DR into vers so much that crit becomes similar
gaunt phoenix
Is KiR gunna be omegabis in M+ too?
yea, though unless you are seriously pushing i think you can get away with ho
tight kernel
in raid i dont think you go deft at all
So would you drop that, got 2ft and grab heavy hitter?
tight kernel
ye
tender wedge
yeah thats the more ST/low target cleave build
gaunt phoenix
precise cuts is too strong
tight kernel
okay and keep deft
tender wedge
then drop 1fth yeah for pc
tight kernel
or
gaunt phoenix
sturdy grove
yea, though unless you are seriously pushing i think you can get away with ho
I just want to scrape hero
fallen mural
Solo do we swap to those talents once we have the new tier set?
keen belfry
do u guys know all the weekly quests that give a a few hunrdred rep atleast
im trying to see how long it would take to get this rune if u just do weekly stuff
theres the weekly dornogal that gives 1500
gaunt phoenix
Solo do we swap to those talents once we have the new tier set?
you will play kir with loaded dice, and then you adjust it for ST/m+/raid cleave, and that is raid cleave version
gaunt phoenix
yea
fallen mural
Got it and then raid cleave was the one above. Perfect
strong halo
hmm so we still get a better cudgel even if its not vet
worth doing nightfall for sure
torpid fiber
also I'm ngl y'all doing questing yesterday I had a blast with new KS, which is a good sign for casuals complaining less about the spec 🙏
Ability just kinda owns in solo content bc you actually see the damage it does
lime lake
torpid fiber
Also animation even with all the mastery procs goes insane
lime lake
idk the animation was already mid for me
torpid fiber
I know ppl have issues with the rework but I think it's probably going to be a huge success in the broader community
lime lake
but the mastery procs completely ruin it
if it wasnt constantly being interrupted i'd think its fine
at least you can actually see an animation
torpid fiber
I actually kinda vibe with the mastery procs, it's like you're shooting them and then stabbing them while they're distracted
But mostly the gunshot visuals are the first actual visual we have in the spec lmaooo
fallen mural
Does the new killing spree stagger damage like before?
gaunt phoenix
No
fallen mural
ahh ok
torpid fiber
No but you can move during it and grapple and shit
fallen mural
So they made us weaker in pvp (hi blizz, u nerfed us) jk
torpid fiber
It has a 20% slow but we get so much ms that the 20% slow is basically "outlaw player experiences what it's like to play the game at 1x speed"
smoky lotus
do I just use s3 talents if I have s1 tier?
torpid fiber
That's what I've been doing and iirc I asked solo and they said it was correct
keen belfry
do I just use s3 talents if I have s1 tier?
yuh u only swap to loaded dice when u take off 4pc
random stirrup
why does this cloak have less secondaries then a cloak 30 ilvl under it
put the good fiber in cuh
torpid fiber
yuh u only swap to loaded dice when u take off 4pc
That's only for s2 tier though
hollow coyote
do we still KS inside vanish windows?
fallen mural
why does this cloak have less secondaries then a cloak 30 ilvl under it
Head to crafter and get the better one made
gaunt phoenix
no, you never did
keen belfry
That's only for s2 tier though
ium confused babe
torpid fiber
They said s1
keen belfry
who tf has s1 tier on rn
keen belfry
how dare u vvevv
hollow coyote
buff HO plz blizzard
frail veldt
I need to know so I can optimally do these m0s
torpid fiber
I just went "the only reason we played sleight over loaded was s2 tier, hence I'm going to assume s1 tier means loaded"
didn't bother simming it idc
keen belfry
how dare u
torpid fiber
I'm going to replace it with questing greens as soon as I get a full set
It's called a "mental sim", it's like mental arithmetic
you just make shit up in your head and claim you simmed it
wintry solar
I just went "the only reason we played sleight over loaded was s2 tier, hence I'...
Wish more were like you
torpid fiber
Tbf I did ask solo beforehand if the s3 tier impacted talents and got a "no, s2 tier is what is" so I kinda cheated
But also anyone who skipped s2 will be replacing their s1 gear so fast that even if a different build simmed better they'd get more value from learning the s3 build now
frail veldt
I just went "the only reason we played sleight over loaded was s2 tier, hence I'...
Ye you are correct
smoky lotus
yeah ive been questing in the s3 build, was just double checking that it is the way
torpid fiber
I don't even have 19% haste yet bc I was using haste flask in s1 
frail veldt
yeah ive been questing in the s3 build, was just double checking that it is the ...
S3 build is a DPS loss if you're wearing s2 tier
But you can run it to get used to the talents
smoky lotus
im in 639 s1 gear
frail veldt
Since we do drop 4 PC for 2 + 2 pc
frail veldt
im in 639 s1 gear
Oh then yeah run LD
gaunt phoenix
when few do trick
torpid fiber
S3 build is easy I just click buttons when my weakaura lights up
Is there a way to have a weakaura only load if I have a specific number of points in a talent? I'll have to look into that this evening
torpid fiber
There's a talent check in load options
I just don't remember if it supports point checking
If not I can just make the assumption that taking precise cuts means 1fth and it'll be fine
keen belfry
it should yeah
i hear some crazy takes about dropping gs for 2fth
dont listen to them ok?
torpid fiber
I'd just rather not code something that's not as future compatible
smoky lotus
ok but more importantly, how do I get KS to have louder pew pews
torpid fiber
i hear some crazy takes about dropping gs for 2fth
That would lower my apm
strong halo
if i got an upgrade is it worth recrafting to move the embelishment on a crafting item
brittle pelican
any of you guys have issues while phased out in new zone and try to swim?
keen belfry
ok but more importantly, how do I get KS to have louder pew pews
https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/kQoOnNmSUCVZvvcC2?invite=cr-MSxIbGosNDU1MDEwMw&v=7 zac made a WA that triggers when u gain cps during ks
brittle pelican
my character just dces out
torpid fiber
I feel like my derust this time is so much faster than previous outlaw derusts tbh
Probably bc we've played basically the same build for a long time tbf
dense bridge
only issue/bug ive had is that my stealth animation persists even outside of stealth
so im just tiptoing
torpid fiber
Like the trickster stuff adds some complexity but not really anything hard, it's just new builders to add to the builder prio
*spenders
Not builders
Although I guess ks is both...
Wait is KS buffed by heavy hitter?
keen belfry
id guess no but good question
gaunt phoenix
no
keen belfry
solo why did our love of crit go up
ks being higher % of dmg?
o ur asnwer was for ffatebound only
keen belfry
thats valid
lime lake
frank finch
random stirrup
what if i said i dont know or care
surely it at least has SOMETHING to do with trickster hitting the bte crit cap by default and fatebound needing at least 10% crit from gear to hit it
gaunt phoenix
yea
torpid fiber
We probably have slightly lower rp uptime this patch or w/e
dense bridge
wintry solar
Outlaw is held back by roll the bones rng
👍
🏄 🏄♀️
wintry solar
I'm not equipping anything below hero track
frank finch
does visions drop higher gear?
strong halo
it drops veteran but like Nightfall is more efficient
dense bridge
sometimes i wonder why restless blades is not our mastery stat instead
strong halo
and you get 20ilvl increase on your cudgel
torpid fiber
They should bring back kazzak neck early so we can have two pieces of veteran gear
trail cove
wintry solar
I'd be happy to not play 1fth kir but yeah its pretty solid
Been playing dk, the changes feel great there as well. I wish I could play 2 characters at the same time.
dense bridge
focus on getting the crest cheevos and then you can play on alts guilt free
crest discount is yuge
torpid fiber
I actually kinda love 1fth ngl
wintry solar
Yeah no it's fun. I'm the type of person that can't play 1 build all season is all.
torpid fiber
That's fair
dense bridge
my guild wanted to string me up for being an altoholic last season
so now im a good boy focusing on one character
torpid fiber
Outlaw has been the same build for 4 seasons so I can see that being an issue for you
wintry solar
Things are changing come midnight. I can feel it in the wind.
torpid fiber
Ok that's fair I skipped last season
Idk ks doesn't feel that different this season to ks-less builds
You have an extra spender but the core gameplay is the same
desert tendon
Things are changing come midnight. I can feel it in the wind.
yea they ll bring a 3rd spec to dh after claiming "we ll never add another spec to an existing class after aug, it was not the best idea we had"
dense bridge
i think adding a dps spec is different from adding a spec that was mandatory until it got taken out back and shot and then smacked the corpse around with a shovel
late swallow
Grink dubois is such a goated name
desert tendon
it is
dense bridge
thanks i made it myself
desert tendon
meanwhile somnius is such a boring name, doesnt mean anything, doesnt feel anything
very empty
wintry solar
Goonius is more fitting for you
late swallow
meanwhile somnius is such a boring name, doesnt mean anything, doesnt feel anyth...
Someone doesn’t read roman poetry, and it shows
wintry solar
He probably has a life
desert tendon
still boring
late swallow
He’s french
late swallow
He neets all day and seethes about the romans
desert tendon
also saying this to me is pretty much ballzy
unkempt smelt
Best Delve to grind/unlock tier 11 this season?
late swallow
desert tendon
that s maybe a bit out of place sir
wintry solar
Yoink
harsh mural
delves gotta be the worst thing blizz has made since garrisons
lime lake
excuse me horde pick up the pace please
wintry solar
Best Delve to grind/unlock tier 11 this season?
I'm doing sidestreet sluice since it's short
lime lake
we're losing the mole people race
desert tendon
Horde is dead since dwarf and nelf exist. Sorry
Also bel, are you finally not playing the boring dot spec?
wintry solar
excuse me horde pick up the pace please
Damn, sorry. I'm at my job. Expect to not win.
lime lake
Also bel, are you finally not playing the boring dot spec?
ive been playing sub for a while now 
desert tendon
that s even worse
dense bridge
lime lake
i got oldge
late swallow
ive been playing sub for a while now <:besad:507266809431326729>
Sub gets more swag points than sin for sure
lime lake
shadow of my former self
late swallow
Kiss me thru the phone
desert tendon
tbf
last season assa was really really really that bad, and sub was really really that good. So i guess somn not so wrong afterall
desert tendon
i dont play the game right but lemme guess
dense bridge
is sub still an auto attack mage
desert tendon
sub is reazlly good rn, assa is not far behind, and outlaw is bad as hell
but in 2 weeks after rwf, first patch will hit, assa will be goated, sub a bit nerfed, and outlaw fully untouched and more bugged that before for god knows why
red zinc
Sin a 1.5 min spec with new tier
fatebound is banned afaik
dense bridge
where im from 'bad as hell' is high praise 
late swallow
fatebound is banned afaik
That bad huh?
wintry solar
but in 2 weeks after rwf, first patch will hit, assa will be goated, sub a bit n...
You've walked these streets before haven't you?
late swallow
Ye FB was deadge in 1+ targets before haha
wintry solar
Mages...
wintry solar
I blame crackshot
wintry solar
Why are there so many bad mages?
desert tendon
i mean, %wise
i think it s the same number as bad mages as bad rogues
just you have 100 rogues for 50000 mages
wintry solar
They're never applying so I wouldn't know
It's pretty bad when I'm the best rogue I know
In game*
wintry solar
Gapping assa 7 shots in on outlaw
wintry solar
u dont know me
You're right
red zinc
im honestly washed
red zinc
Turned 20 and the powers left me
desert tendon
dont say that
instead
say that you dont play for the same result. You dont care about personnal performance now, you play for the power of friendship
red zinc
i play to lead social raids so i can still feel good about myself even though im not that good
desert tendon
Dont be rough on yourself
wintry solar
Anytime I need a boost, I watch this.
desert tendon
you re doing great tiem
desert tendon
Anytime I need a boost, I watch this.
that s gold
gaunt phoenix
desert tendon
next milestone is 22222
wintry solar
Crit is a little low there bud
torpid fiber
still won't be enough to be played in rwf though 🙂
ripe ibex
@gaunt phoenix quick question just to make sure what talents are we running full st with old tier
gaunt phoenix
the old kir fatebound with sleight
ripe ibex
no ks?
gaunt phoenix
with ks
ripe ibex
okay ty
spark glade
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit 
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group 
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
vagrant saddle
ho is already dead or it dies when we swap to new tier set?
gaunt phoenix
with tier
torpid fiber
kir is easier anyways imo (esp if you're willing to tinker with WAs)
stuck patrol
We pick a stat for the new cloak, right? If I'm playing sin and outlaw, is vers an okay pick?
Or should I pick haste in prep for swapping to KIR?
gaunt phoenix
you can freely swap between stats
strong halo
finite arch
kir is easier anyways imo (esp if you're willing to tinker with WAs)
KEEP IT ROLLING
rich moon
question, should I just cast a finisher during KS as soon as I get 7 points or let it finish?
gaunt phoenix
question, should I just cast a finisher during KS as soon as I get 7 points or l...
its about the same either way
strong halo
you can freely swap between stats
Not true it costs 100f
gaunt phoenix
true
strong halo
100g*
torpid fiber
that's fucked up
strong halo
Solo is basically a misinformation campaign
rich moon
Solo is basically a misinformation campaign
I thought that movie was canon
finite arch
Solo is basically a misinformation campaign
Dude he said he couldnt reply cause he was with a girl
This dude was replying all night
Scammed
jovial dome
Everyone has to go to the toilet, even when with a girl. Jeez. Poor Solo
frank finch
royal ermine
pearl topaz
so until I get a new tier, I can stick with the old specs I was using last season
er talents*
fallen mural
ya
fair oak
lime lake
shenanigans can be done
livid sluice
somehow my paladin has a 714 cloak rn
tribal cosmos
whos done let me solo her
tribal cosmos
for the dashes ?
craggy barn
yea
tribal cosmos
i thought i was the only one man
tribal cosmos
doesnt it give gear
tribal cosmos
so the boss is useless
craggy barn
yea
its insane
if the clones were predetermined so u can preplan ur movement
maybe
lime lake
idk when i was doing it ?? felt hard but fair
except i just got autoed to death
but thats just a gear check issue
glass mortar
every delve u do gives a curio fwiw
until u have them all maxed u receive a curio of the next level u r missing
tribal cosmos
naw outlaw doesnt get autod
play evasion with evasive
and youll have evasion up every portal
glass mortar
+11s felt very funny i was getting autos for 5m by some mobs
the few times swings land ur hp bar just dissapears
tribal cosmos
just do fungal and sneak everywhere
grim spear
somehow my paladin has a 714 cloak rn
what? why?
visual trout
does anyone know i'm walking like i'm stealthed while unstealthed?
visual trout
strange bug
wintry solar
Next reset will be filled with bug fixes no doubt 
grim spear
You’re not actually in stealth, but the [nostealth] condition in your macro misfires
hallow spoke
do we need to farm this veteran cudgel every hour? assume its m+ bis again
livid sluice
what? why?
Caused some bug somehow
grim spear
annoying
wintry solar
Yeah some people have high renown and stuff
torpid fiber
every delve u do gives a curio fwiw
bro I did a +4 delve last night and didn't get a curio wtf
livid sluice
I had the wrapped up bug on rogue first tho
Idk if that had something to do with it
eternal wolf
where do we stand for ks? it looks like a cone, but things get hit behind me
shell fossil
ye the killing spree animation plays a little too fast to feel natural
wintry solar
A little fast and the melee swings
strong halo
is there a wowhead guide on what to do week 1
covert kestrel
is there a wowhead guide on what to do week 1
theres a guide by larias that goes through everything in a very min max way
strong halo
theres a guide by larias that goes through everything in a very min max way
could you link please? id appreciate it!
tight egret
Well, I'm back. Outlaw cracked brain couldn't stand how slow assassination is.
tribal cosmos
@grim spear WHAT CHEST IS THTA
grim spear
<@530051331524919296> WHAT CHEST IS THTA
cn server exclusive mog
ornate heathBOT
A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more 
Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, 
Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.
tight kernel
Can someone peep this. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/v1PMz4xYQXg8rc97?fight=12&type=damage-done&source=21
I know I dropped ar a few times but still felt off
swift otter
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
lone spear
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
grim spear
Can someone peep this. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/v1PMz4xYQXg8rc97?fig...
too few vanish casts, why?
4.5min fight you have only 8 vanish casts, that's not right
and you waste quite a lot of ks cd too
late swallow
tazdingo?
oblique trench
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
torpid fiber
hmm
trying to think of things i want to add/change in my weakauras
i know i have some small things I want to change but honestly there's been way fewer updates I've had to make than I expected
tight kernel
too few vanish casts, why?
Yeah I know. I just felt off, kept fucking my ar and I think I just mind gamed myself
pure jetty
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
oblique trench
How do you guys think about the wa which tells you when to kir and rtb? Is it good?
torpid fiber
any reasonable spec WA pack should already have that functionality built into it imo
(or you can code it in fairly reasonably)
the dedicated one is the one with randomass numbers assigned to buffs iirc
that afaik isn't really a dps gain over the much simpler standard rules
latent belfry
is 37k difference between builds substantial
torpid fiber
what % is that
latent belfry
0.8%
torpid fiber
not really
latent belfry
great, i can stop using on-use trinkets then ;D for now atleast...
torpid fiber
it's mostly down to preference
pure jetty
are we aiming to be haste heavy or there is like a soft cap
torpid fiber
it's a non-zero amount but also if you cba to use on-use it's not so much that you're going to troll
torpid fiber
are we aiming to be haste heavy or there is like a soft cap
!haste
ornate heathBOT
A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.
*But Haste has a **requirement ** because 
Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.
The 
KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after 
Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.
The 
HO build gets 
Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.
You need to use 
Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.
torpid fiber
it's closer to a hard cap
haste after the KIR value is basically worthless for that build
torpid fiber
yeah it's fucked
peak dock
Is it useful to switch to wound poison for pack before last boss in HoA?
tender wedge
fffff so close
lime lake
gritty hamlet
the veteran mace is gonna be y'alls m+ bis for the rest of the expansion eh?
tender wedge
I think it’s a wee bit better than fully upgraded mythic offhand for trash
torpid fiber
We'll need 3 weapons
but given that 1 is a veteran track one I don't think the upgrade cost of that is really that bad as opposed to if it was a standard type of weapon swap
haughty sparrow
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
upper hazel
any bookreaders
the event there has a weekly lockout or?
lime lake
you can get the big reward box from filling up the progress bar
and that also has veteran loot
(or so ive been told im not a cantrip fiend)
unreal shoal
how is outlaw in pve ?
craggy kelp
idk if its weekly or not
i assume the coin thing is but not the event box
but idk
strong halo
Is there any point in doing visions?
craggy kelp
can get a 691 weapon from doing 5 mask
but other than that the enchant doesnt work so no
proven ocean
can get a 691 weapon from doing 5 mask
Do i need to unlock the masks or can i do them insta i think i had 2 of them up
tender wedge
hmm ok arathi event seems to have something wrong
craggy kelp
idk i wasnt a vision enjoyer. i've just heard around the block 5mask awards vet weapon once
hot olive
I had them too in dornogal
Felt like its taking too much fps
Might have to turn it off if its some new feature
azure vortex
Can I join my friend with 5 masks and get the weapon?
vivid vessel
I think that's the same shit you have in the new dungeon
lime lake
its the effects you have while phase diving
but idk why they randomly appear outside of it
i thought cloak but it happened when i took it off anyway
mossy rock
yo guys do you think bliz would be mad if i did all 30 world quests on 11 characters twice this week to be 4 renown levels ahead of everyone else
(330 wq * 16 rep per = 5,280 aka 2 renown lvls kekw)
azure vortex
Dunno but I would be impressed by your dedication
deep sand
all that for what? a couple carved crests and occasional coffer key?
mossy rock
augment rune 1-2 weeks early
deep sand
i guess you'll save a bit of money, sure
stiff hawk
yo guys do you think bliz would be mad if i did all 30 world quests on 11 charac...
I mean the WQ only give Rep once
per Warband
mossy rock
contracts dont tho
mossy rock
contracts work even if you have done that wq with a contract
deep sand
you can grapple hook while KSing, that's like the cherry on top
vivid vessel
But you can't kick or cc that's the piss on the top of pile of shit
mossy rock
How much of a dps increase is the augment rune
oh my god no buffs ST its a 19k dps increase LOL
azure vortex
19k is small number
mossy rock
yeah def not worth but i love that its possible
lime lake
surely we have better things to do than that
azure vortex
I at least expect it to give more dps than the gold cost
lime lake
jolly geyser
bf6 beta
azure vortex
I will ask a noob question
mossy rock
just do 1700 world quests across 50 characters and get ur augment rune this week ez
ocean imp
!kir
ornate heathBOT
KIR build compared to 
HO:
- doesn't use ambush, uses the same builder priority inside and outside of stealth
- is more cp efficient with pistol shot usage (see faq)
- has to use KIR itself as soon as you hit 4 buffs from RTB/CTO
- has an additional reroll logic after pressing KIR (see faq)
- is more punishing if you mess up builder priority at a given moment
- needs 19% haste from rating to reach 25% during adrenaline rush after alacrity
- KIR 1 FTH really likes trickster optimizations, like prioritizing SS when unseen blades are guaranteed (see faq)
random stirrup
New quests are coming time based or ?
the major sources are one time only (secrets, campaign, side quests) or on a timed schedule (world quests, weeklies)
jolly geyser
weekly dungeon quest gives 1500rep also
rotund zodiac
what stats do we choose on the new cloak?
hasty warren
Hi pirates
rotund zodiac
hmmmm
fair oak
new ks feels quite nice to use 
mighty pivot
epsilonee show cat 
vivid vessel
And toes
upper hazel
Hi pirates
caster Pirates with the new KS.
frank finch
rotund zodiac
how do fast travel while in phase ?
vivid vessel
Idk how I would have done it alone
jolly geyser
I thought it was chill content
deep sand
give it a day, you'll adjust quickly
fluid meadow
what is this back dmg wtf
winged raft
maan the killingspree feels long
never thought i would wait to press buttons on outlaw
inland bay
they should add the camera teleport back in
hasty warren
they should add the camera teleport back in
vague cape
would we drop myth mug MH for a 691 wep?
tender wedge
sounds like a "sim it" angle to me
lime lake
just tell me the answer