outlaw

[proven ocean]

like cooked takes are np

this cook

was like

putting a steak not in a microwave

but in a volcano

and then trying to eat it in a date

cooked out the wazoo

[desert tendon]

Damn

Almost your cooking level

[proven ocean]

nah

he ascended above my cooks

all in 1 sentence

[desert tendon]

Idbout

[proven ocean]

also

im not cooked

im always based

never gave any cooked take in my life

[sharp hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/right-yeah-right-yeah-oh-yeah-ohh-gif-14553729619893238098

[red zinc]

ok 😃 👍

[proven ocean]

Timmy
[meep]
— 12:01 AM
ok 😃 👍

[desert tendon]

Thx yiem

Tiem

Ya à cutie

[proven ocean]

np yiem

[red zinc]

hi im yiem

[proven ocean]

ko iyem

hi yiem

[desert tendon]

Shutup

[proven ocean]

ur ass

[red zinc]

ko iyem

guys

tomorro

[desert tendon]

@vivid vessel i ve à joke

Zeross is based and Never cooked

[vivid vessel]

ye

[proven ocean]

bad one censi

[gaunt phoenix]

!up

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1402339140078665841/Dark_v2_1.jpg

[gaunt phoenix]

look !

[proven ocean]

99.999% wrong

[vivid vessel]

you are so late dude

[bright crane]

Ross what u playing in s3

[gaunt phoenix]

Wtf

[vivid vessel]

litteraly yesterday news

it was made 5 hour ago already

almost outdated

[random stirrup]

noobs so slow? no cape?

[desert tendon]

Solo à boomer now

Already too slow

[sudden fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/waynes-world-gif-9423140

[desert tendon]

Solo it s over

[proven ocean]

nothing

[desert tendon]

Time to reroll assa

[proven ocean]

leaving the wow scene

[bright crane]

Damn why

Over it?

[desert tendon]

Get à personnality zero

U can Keep playing the game even if i, the greatesr rogue, leave

[proven ocean]

gonna farm irl rio

prob delete discord too because i dont really need to use it

[bright crane]

Bet

[desert tendon]

U wont

Keep discord U noob

[bright crane]

Good luck on your future endeavors

[desert tendon]

We need to yap on rwf outlaws

[proven ocean]

maybe at another season

[cedar kernel]

[desert tendon]

Bac

Are you in à chinese rwf guild yet?

[red zinc]

Ok now clear useful content with it

[random stirrup]

there is no useful content

[red zinc]

Dont send bac to the mines

[white marten]

He didnt know 🤣

[random stirrup]

[red zinc]

[craggy barn]

does someone have the xalatath toes macro

i ahve to give it to someone

[gaunt phoenix]

uh huh

[blissful osprey]

was much changed about outlaw outside of killing spree since 11.1?

[craggy barn]

lol

a bunch of my guildies are gooning over feet, as a guild officer i have to appease them to some extent

cant let them breach containment

[red zinc]

Sure bud

[craggy barn]

does anyone have it or not

[desert tendon]

Ofc not

We re outlaw players

We re sane

[white marten]

Rerolling uhdk

[sudden fulcrum]

Can probably find it in search

[slate forge]

Why did you sim oh cudgel at 678 doesn’t veteran go up to 691 ilvl?

[craggy barn]

its season 2 veteran

[wintry solar]

Don't. I'm having too much fun. You won't be able to contain it.

[red zinc]

Season 3 adventurer

[gaunt phoenix]

its adventurer

[slate forge]

Oh ok

[craggy barn]

ah they updated it

[red zinc]

Was champ in s2 even

[craggy barn]

does it still cost a weekly token

[quaint mauve]

alleria trippin bruh

[hybrid pecan]

Precise cuts over 2/2 fan the hammer?

In m+

[willow portal]

how important is restealth in m+ for us?

[hybrid pecan]

extremely

crackshot is cracked

[hybrid crown]

If your tank is chain pulling and you can't get into stealth, don't worry about it

[hybrid pecan]

and uhup is like what's holding the spec together

[hybrid crown]

If you are not getting into stealth when you have the possibility to it's a big deal

[fathom bramble]

because we get so much subterfuge from playing properly you don't really need restealths like you do/did when stealth was rarer

[random stirrup]

as long as you are either hitting something or getting the restealth ye its not a big deal

[quaint mauve]

i wouldnt say extremely

aslong as u can hit something u should be fine

[vivid vessel]

0, the best way to play around an outlaw rogue is to perma be chaining, and not let the pack fall bellow 5 targets basically

[hybrid pecan]

I mean like you should restealth any opportunity you have

[vivid vessel]

yes

if you exit combat

sure

[hybrid crown]

It's a loss overall for the key for your tank to wait between every mob for the rogue to stealth

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix

do you think it would be interesting in the faq to add somehwere where you explain how outlaw damage profile works

what is favorable for outlaw etc

what isnt

i feel like people dont understand it especially for m+

[hybrid pecan]

I don't think most pug tanks are going to be playing around outlaw rogues one way or another other than maybe pulling around their cap

[vivid vessel]

i guess you kinda explain it here but not really

[eternal wolf]

i think this would be super good, if they do end up making it

[vivid vessel]

Like a big thing to me

is how people dont understand how outlaw is better for keys like cinder/priory

than workshop

[buoyant cosmos]

priory is made for outlaw

love it there

[vivid vessel]

idk what this means

guys

how does darkmoon fair works

what do i do

and why

[fathom bramble]

10% rep buff from spinning

don't die or you lose it

[vivid vessel]

you can buy things i heard

so you bank them in bag

or smth

[buoyant cosmos]

it's a hat

[fathom bramble]

you can buy the hats, but it takes enough time that it is annoying

might be faster overall to just refresh it every hour

[buoyant cosmos]

try n buy the ticket packs on the bmah

They can go for cheap and have like 2-400

[vivid vessel]

ah

no i remember ye now

where there was like a one time quest

to buy plenty and shit

okok

ye

whatever

i will just do the thing

[buoyant cosmos]

darkmoon murloc chair is bis for the CE screenshot too

[strong halo]

can you do world boss this week?

[vivid vessel]

what do i do with my like

5k crests

can i sell them

[buoyant cosmos]

they get converted to gold

[desert tendon]

you buy a mcdonalds

[lofty sand]

like what scenario does this happen?

[vivid vessel]

oh direclty ?

i dont do anything

[buoyant cosmos]

p sure

I hope it's not just 1:1

[vivid vessel]

5k gold

[vivid vessel]

hm

wdym

[desert tendon]

it s sure is

like it always been

[vivid vessel]

it says right there the scenario

[lofty sand]

but like, i roll and ruthless precision not active then i jsut send it

in what version i wait for the buff

i dont get it

[vivid vessel]

thats fatebound

isnt it

[lofty sand]

y

[buoyant cosmos]

we don't play that here

[vivid vessel]

well fatebound either send vanish with supercharger, so yes right after a roll you are right, or when it proc (or roll rp (you wont neccesserally have vanish ready immediately tho, and rp last long enough to have multiple vanish fit inside))

so you could say

roll rp

vanish cause its ready

and then the next vansih you might wait for bte to be ready

so you can bte > vanish

and in general with fb you dont vanish if rp isnt here, or if you dont have supercharger

thats all

[lofty sand]

so i have vanish ready and roll is not up yet = no supercharget then its not worth to send vanish if AR wouldnt go down unless i get a rp proc

[neat mist]

Is that where your rogue's name comes from? @vivid vessel

[vivid vessel]

ye

[lofty sand]

i see

interesting

[buoyant cosmos]

I thought it was tompelvis for the longest

becasue I'm kinda dumb

[vivid vessel]

hah a

[vivid vessel]

its not voldemort name tho

its the guy

[neat mist]

Yeh

Tom Marvolo Riddle

[vivid vessel]

in english its tom riddle

ye

[neat mist]

i c i c

[formal pawn]

kinda lame you can kick during channel

[vivid vessel]

I have never been good with nicknames

[vivid vessel]

ye right

:)

[lofty sand]

and this is the reason?

[vivid vessel]

for what

for the vanish rules

[lofty sand]

for rc

y

[vivid vessel]

no not at all

its just

fatebound can afford holding vanish

[lofty sand]

oh

[vivid vessel]

because it doesnt have to play around killing spree cooldown

[glass mortar]

Don't they just despawn

[vivid vessel]

its not fatebound rules

its just normal vanish rules

we would use the same for trickster if we didnt have to worry about overcapping on ks cd

but ks cd is so important for trikcster

and trickster also likes other stuffs

like vnaishing after coup

[carmine ferry]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[lofty sand]

yeah i see

ty winnie-the-pooh

when stream btw?

[vivid vessel]

well ptr is down

and next week

there is nothing to do

so idk

i will stream next week still

m0

i gues

idk

[lofty sand]

yeah next week no content

[vivid vessel]

i will be perma streaming tho after

cause prog and m+

[buoyant cosmos]

push to 2100 pvp ez

[vivid vessel]

well m+ will wait a bit

like what

im not aware of any third party thing

[buoyant cosmos]

autohotkey?

botting stuff in general

[haughty wigeon]

i fucking hate this company

[buoyant cosmos]

Imma need you to /lick them rq

[buoyant cosmos]

why her nails like that

[vivid vessel]

ye how come they are so low rez

bad work ..

[buoyant cosmos]

They should use used the cutscene model in game

all in

[craggy barn]

gdi wheres new ks

[buoyant cosmos]

3 day early access again for midnight if you buy the epic edition

[vivid vessel]

is it not in ?

[haughty wigeon]

time for more money

[craggy barn]

i mean thte icon in this discord

i want the badge next to my name to be ks

[vivid vessel]

let me see

[buoyant cosmos]

the rest is a buncha transmog and housing items

early access to housing too

[vivid vessel]

the hd icons arent updated yet ..

[buoyant cosmos]

Are they from the game? Or that guy who upscaled them all

[haughty wigeon]

i mean

[vivid vessel]

ye its a guy that upscale them

[haughty wigeon]

isnt that coming in prepatch amyways?

[vivid vessel]

the normal game ones are ugly

[haughty wigeon]

early access to housing is just the 3 day stuff anyways right?

[buoyant cosmos]

ig you get it earlier than everyone else

not sure, mmo-champ just posted everything.

[haughty wigeon]

i cant wait to see the armor set

[buoyant cosmos]

I want playable ethereals

[white marten]

Gnome toes are S-tier

[buoyant cosmos]

oh you a phreak

[haughty wigeon]

i mean subtracting thehousing stuff

this epic addition has alot of stuff in it

[white marten]

But a lady in the streets

[buoyant cosmos]

the best

[buoyant cosmos]

It does, I bet the tender is what get's a lot of people hype

[vivid vessel]

nah but

it always amazes me

[white marten]

What that mog look like

[vivid vessel]

we pay so much money for this game

90e every 2 years

[buoyant cosmos]

no one knows

[vivid vessel]

20e a month

race changes, name changes, server changes

[white marten]

lol

[vivid vessel]

and i still cant get a drop of dev time on my spec

please

blozard

[buoyant cosmos]

biggest addicts global

[vivid vessel]

how much more money

do i need to throw

at you

i can send more

[white marten]

They need to increase price of everything first

[digital onyx]

AHK can be used for all kinds of tasks... if blizzard would ban you for using this programm outside of WoW, that would be wild

[civic zephyr]

zac gave up and straight trynna buy a buff LMAO

[vivid vessel]

not a buff even

just a dev

that works on outlaw

for like 2 days

fix the hero talents or smth

fix ks

ks

[buoyant cosmos]

they can't stand rogue

[vivid vessel]

rework

when is next ks rework

guys

[civic zephyr]

LMAO

[vivid vessel]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[buoyant cosmos]

no kidding, I doubt it'd happen.

[normal forge]

thx

[white marten]

You gotta pay for the ultimate heroic pack for that. Only about 150e

[vivid vessel]

but i mean

i would tho

[buoyant cosmos]

People have been using imorph for years

on stream even

[vivid vessel]

i said it before

but im serious

[digital onyx]

you dont like new KS?

[vivid vessel]

i would just pay the salary of the dev x2

for like 2 months

to fix outlaw

idc

[proven ocean]

@desert tendon @frail veldt

Im disappointed in mrbeast today

[white marten]

Were sandbagging dude. Play along so we get buffs smdh

[proven ocean]

He made a small video on most expensive coffee

2500$ per kilogram

[white marten]

Will take longer than 2 months. You’re giving blozz way too much credit

[proven ocean]

But we have coffee thats 7000$ per kilogram

In use

Uae

[vivid vessel]

a full time dev working on outlaw only ?

im sure he can lower ks channel time

and a few other things

[white marten]

And they will still manage to drop the ball

[vivid vessel]

in 2 month

[white marten]

Trust

[sharp hinge]

did anyone get the new cloak yet?

[proven ocean]

Outlaw is fine chat relax

[white marten]

They will just do a full overhaul of the spec that will be worse than what we have now

[vivid vessel]

bro

there is nothing to do

for a full week

im already having withdrawal

its crazy

[craggy barn]

visions are giving s3 heroic so do that

[white marten]

Delves bro

Run delves

[digital onyx]

visions are still a thing?

[sharp hinge]

get the cloak

[white marten]

Oh God, visions are still a thing?? Bro whyy!?

Where tf is all the new world content?

[sharp hinge]

for lower geared players to catchup

[white marten]

S3 heroic, he said 🤔

[sharp hinge]

681

[craggy barn]

5mask runs

[white marten]

He probably meant s2 heroic 🤣

[craggy barn]

i do not

[stiff vector]

nah I think they already fixed it

[prisma vessel]

!haste

[ornate heath]

A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The HO build gets Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[white marten]

Fun detected

[prisma vessel]

guess ill just socket the vers fiber O.o

[white marten]

Eat your fiber so ur poop just slides out

No need to wipe

[sharp hinge]

how quickly do we get the cloak from the quests

[prisma vessel]

mhmm

no i meant for the cloak xD im at 25% haste atm

[craggy barn]

if u only folow MSQ, not super long

[vivid vessel]

ok

im

i need something to do actually

wtf

wow is a crazy game

im addicted

[sharp hinge]

okay kewl, i held on on upgrading my cloak for this XD so its a 40 ilvl upgrade

[craggy barn]

seek help

[covert kestrel]

run 2km

[sharp hinge]

go beat ya meat zac

[white marten]

M0 world tour

[vivid vessel]

im eu

[vivid vessel]

i did

like 5 times already

[frail veldt]

is that usd or uae $

[vivid vessel]

need something else ot do

[proven ocean]

Bruh

Uae $ he said

[frail veldt]

maybe he just couldnt purchase it outside of uae

[proven ocean]

$ is $

[frail veldt]

eh kind of

canada calls them dollars still

[proven ocean]

????

[frail veldt]

but theyre a different dollar

[proven ocean]

Now ur making it complicated

Stop cooking mewo

Ur arguing to argue rn

[brisk meadow]

Australia has Dollars aswell

[frail veldt]

^

the usa isnt the only dollar

[proven ocean]

I dont think he knows where to buy expensive and actual good coffee

[sharp hinge]

its just CAD (canadian Dollar)

[proven ocean]

Instead he went for poop coffee cuz it sounds weird

[proven ocean]

You damn well know i meant usd $

[frail veldt]

its a mr beast video bro

[proven ocean]

like how everyone would

[frail veldt]

I didnt lol I wasnt sure if you also use $ internally cuz I know toehr countries do

[frail veldt]

^^^^^

thank you zac

[vivid vessel]

np bro

i know im goated

[frail veldt]

I really wasnt trying to be daft

[proven ocean]

Its the standard dollar

[frail veldt]

no those are all different dollars

[proven ocean]

Ur calling uae dollars when we dont even use that currency

[near rock]

thats right guys im turbo geared

[frail veldt]

yeah I didnt know if you did or not

[near rock]

(meme)

[brisk meadow]

Its the USA that makes you think its the Standard dollar

[frail veldt]

lots of countries use the term and symbol $

[vivid vessel]

we use the french dolar in france

[frail veldt]

to mean something else

[vivid vessel]

so ye

i know a lot about dollars

[brisk meadow]

Dont let the West indoctrinate you

[frail veldt]

not all $ is the same zeross

[brisk meadow]

[frail veldt]

there are many $ in the world

the USA doesnt own it

[brisk meadow]

I still dont have any

[proven ocean]

Whatever u say dude ur always getting out of the main subject to argue about random things

W.e will go take a shower

[buoyant cosmos]

I like the European dollar

[brisk meadow]

TIERLISTS

Lets gooo

[vivid vessel]

ok

[vivid vessel]

thanks bro

idc tho

why this guy sending me this

[frail veldt]

LOL I just asked a question

[vivid vessel]

canadioan dollar

[normal forge]

im sure u could be the best sin rogue in da world

[vivid vessel]

no ty

not interested

[brisk meadow]

Do we have a tierlist of tierlists? Or is that too meta

[frail veldt]

I wasnt tyring to be annoying I swear

[covert kestrel]

fam my buddy didnt upgrade his belt to 701 before patch dropped, is he cooked? Not seeing overcharged delves anymore

[vivid vessel]

[buoyant cosmos]

Liquidarmory is on the case

[vivid vessel]

owned

[frail veldt]

I dont even have the belt

it doesnt matter youll replace it so soon who cares

[vivid vessel]

??

you are cooked for that one mewo

its litteraly 701 ilvl

[frail veldt]

dont you replace it at 710ilvl?

[vivid vessel]

you are keeping it for a while

[hollow temple]

you guys wear belts?

[frail veldt]

ah I thought it was like quickly replaced

by like hero track

[willow portal]

do you ahve hero track right now?

[vivid vessel]

do you ??

[frail veldt]

can you do relevant content rn?

[willow portal]

no thats my point

[frail veldt]

thats my point

[willow portal]

so get the belt

[vivid vessel]

ok good point

[frail veldt]

so it doesnt matter lol

[willow portal]

wdym doesnt matter

[frail veldt]

congrats on parsing in your delves

LOL

like what

[willow portal]

you cant get better for a whiöe

[vivid vessel]

LOL

he got you good

owned noob

[frail veldt]

yeah youre right

dont even bother gearing if you didnt get the belt

youre so behidn

cant even play

perma bottom meters

literally grey parse every pull

[willow portal]

sir

[frail veldt]

guaranteed

[willow portal]

what are these cooked takes

[frail veldt]

pack it up come back s4

[brisk meadow]

Its Outlaw channel

[stiff vector]

bro even I have belt and I didnt play this season until this week

ur such a noobo mewo

[frail veldt]

I was literally just responding to the person who asked "is he cooked" about a friend who didnt get the belt

and I said no hes not cooked

and I still think I am correct

[vivid vessel]

he si cooked

[frail veldt]

you arent COOKED for not having the belt

[vivid vessel]

you are cooked

mewo

[stiff vector]

you are GIGA cooked

[frail veldt]

youre fiiiiiiiiiiiiiine

[vivid vessel]

actually let me check my tier list

[stiff vector]

you need the belt to enter the raid

[vivid vessel]

i dont rememebr where i put you

[brisk meadow]

[frail veldt]

I think I was at "mostly" good takes

[vivid vessel]

eh

you are lucky

[frail veldt]

lolol

[vivid vessel]

you might go down a tier if you continue tho

[stiff vector]

[covert kestrel]

Does order matter in the tiers zac

[frail veldt]

LOL

[hollow temple]

[vivid vessel]

nah

[covert kestrel]

[unkempt smelt]

"The goal of class balance is to ensure that everyone is having fun. Making it so that people can do LFG, Mythic+, and PvP no matter what class or spec they are playing is important." From dev interview... Outlaw balanced or nah?

[buoyant cosmos]

for the average person, probably

[vivid vessel]

no

outlaw is going to suffer very hard from not being assa in s3

i can tell you thatr

[buoyant cosmos]

They try to please people doing like 8-10s or something

[tribal cosmos]

which delves are overcharged this week

im confused

[stiff vector]

not being assa or sub*

[unkempt smelt]

None, its gone

[tribal cosmos]

HOW DO I UPGRADE BELT WTF

[vivid vessel]

i think sub is going to suffer from not being assa lol

[buoyant cosmos]

ur cooked, sorry

[vivid vessel]

just the fact assa is better

[unkempt smelt]

Regular delves

[vivid vessel]

people wont know sub is good

[stiff vector]

oh yea ofc it will to a certain extent

[vivid vessel]

its like

if you have a spec meta within your class

the other specs are cooked meme tier

[covert kestrel]

oh does that shit just drop from normal delves now?

[tribal cosmos]

i cant get titan cards with regular delves

am i cooked chat

[buoyant cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-gif-21766790

[simple gull]

Returning after not playing entire last patch, how are we looking going into 11.2?

[unkempt smelt]

I remember reading this yes

[buoyant cosmos]

it's a go next angle ben

[simple gull]

Oof

[unkempt smelt]

So back to assa for prog and M+ push?

[stiff vector]

It is definitely very fun doing s2 aoe, piss ST, piss prio, having no funnel and my utility being completely non-competitive with mage/druid/shaman/priest. Perfectly balanced

[vivid vessel]

idk about raid i dont think anyone knows about raid

or well

anyone saying they know about raid

is lying

m+ data tho

we ahve been doing

so many keys

on ptr

its as good as its gonna get

till next tuning

[unkempt smelt]

So basically they changed KS but nothing really changed lol... Sadge outlaw noise

[stiff vector]

and PTR keys were technically kind of the ideal situation for outlaw, since you were mostly doing rando, unoptimized routes and pulls, CD specs dont have optimized timings and dmg etc.

[vivid vessel]

a lot changed from s2 to s3 lol

outlaw got way worse

thats what changed

you wont die from killing spree tho

[unkempt smelt]

How did it even happen ma gad

[stiff vector]

I will wish killing spree killed me though

[fluid meadow]

"we want to make specs easier, playing with less wa" what if we just give a tierset to outlaws which is only trackable with wa

[vivid vessel]

tuning is mostly rng so we just didnt get lucky + precise cut is op in raid and it showed, so we got our aoe nerfed

[haughty wigeon]

whats my tier :D

[stiff vector]

brewmaster being me on every pull in floodgate? Fuck man I wish I could just press killing spree and die...not an option anymore

[worldly shale]

Zac assa when?

[vivid vessel]

ok you werent there when i made this and i just picked people from chat

so you are lucky

but you would be here with the other 3

[haughty wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-hip-gif-27509149

[buoyant cosmos]

I made sure to die to it last night for the memories

[vivid vessel]

altough ryuk would also join you guys if we are being honest

[haughty wigeon]

me and zeross same tier

obvi the tier of cool people

[stiff vector]

[vivid vessel]

if you play with a brew

you arent ready

for how much you are going to get outdamaged

by your brew

basically every big pack its over for you

kinda like s1

[haughty wigeon]

brew is so huge rn

and its more easier to get into

god i hope its not nerfed

buff outlaw if anything

i cant survive another vdh meta

[vivid vessel]

https://www.twitch.tv/porsea1/clip/LovelyTolerantGazelleYee-_w30-ECvI57nOgQc?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

[haughty wigeon]

what makes this video worse is

hes not kegsmashing

so it could be even higher

[late swallow]

Where would I be king

[haughty wigeon]

[vivid vessel]

idk what this means cuh

[haughty wigeon]

i cant wait to see people fotm brew and fall flat

[haughty wigeon]

keg smash huge aoe damage ability

1min cd

i think 2 charges

like sigil of spite for veng dh

so he could be doing even more damage if he wanted to afaik

[vivid vessel]

also

just to make people understand how live vs ptr is btw

on live on this pack outlaw does this

this is their end of pack

im not ending this pack even close to 20 mil on ptr i can tell you that

so ye

:)

[haughty wigeon]

god its amazingl isnt it

[late swallow]

Lmaooooooooooooooo

[haughty wigeon]

i wish al ltanks can do this level of damage

[late swallow]

Uhdk still insane on ptr?

[strong halo]

anyone else have elvui broken?

[vivid vessel]

actually funny i look it up

this is ptr

[lofty sand]

also zac when do you fish for the 4th stack for coup?

if u have 3 and ar wont go down

u just fish

or when?

[vivid vessel]

ye idk

when you know you will proc ub you press ss

you use the weak uara to know that

[lofty sand]

yeah ik

but the

random proc

ur dont fish that?

[vivid vessel]

the mega gambler fishing

[lofty sand]

u*

[vivid vessel]

i do it sometimes

when i need to vnaihs and stuff idk

its feeling i couldnt tell you on top of my head rn

[lofty sand]

so its kinda like a "feel like" rule

[vivid vessel]

it doesnt happen that much

[lofty sand]

yeah, cuz fishing feels real bad sometimes, fishing is good when u get the free stack from 20 sec cd then ks +2 stack and at 3 im like "i must procces one from aa" so i fish send 1 sinister

[stiff vector]

nah im definitely ready, Im fully aware of how broken brew is, if they have CDs+tier set on shadow its gg, they giga gap us. If its not on shadow then we prob just do same/slightly more if we get giga good rng. Its so fucked up

[vivid vessel]

well

brew broken and outlaw being absolutely terrible aoe

its kinda both

so ye

[stiff vector]

ye

[lofty sand]

[rotund pulsar]

wait this is hilarious

killing spree does zero damage

it feels like

[lone crow]

@vivid vessel

[vivid vessel]

it does like 15% of your dps

its fine

[vivid vessel]

any

i just realized something right

[vivid vessel]

^

[white marten]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/921103041653006377/1011200962762915930/IMG_2903.gif?ex=68931c48&is=6891cac8&hm=08c0a3d44caa45573e6e24821ef3bc4e95701f0be6f1ea277d183cbd128ae38f&

[tight kernel]

hype

[white marten]

Its a party in the outlaw chat

[lone crow]

there is no way

we'Re chalked

[vivid vessel]

ye

so all the other specs do like twice their live aoe

and i do the smae

[white marten]

That cloak is gonna do like 10% of our overall. Carried by cloak! 💀

[worldly shale]

did u think ure maybe doing it on purpose?

so they buff more?

[vivid vessel]

like i think on this pack i will reach 20mil at most at end of pack

thats still so far from 30 mil they are doing

[stiff vector]

https://www.twitch.tv/drohgoh/clip/ExquisitePoisedMushroomAMPTropPunch-S-l6wb_i_1xpf6Gm

[vivid vessel]

while on live im doing the same damage basically

[stiff vector]

he ended momma at like 11m btw

[lone crow]

ye its actually pretty sad

[quaint mauve]

can u do tazavesh rn?

[stiff vector]

also momma is insanely thick since the hp buff, boss still takes like 5-6min on 18 or 19 even with a brew blasting

and thats with like full bis 723 ilvl

[frail veldt]

it does significantly more dmage lol

at least per cast

dpe and dpet went up a lot for KS from s2 to s3

[vivid vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/live/KNHK2vHVqe4?si=dBHLzUnvRDUNfq80&t=5524 check this one buddy

[bright crane]

Gotta imagine this shit will get tuned

There’s no way they let a tank
Do that much damage

[vivid vessel]

maybe idk

[bright crane]

No shot dude

[vivid vessel]

you gotta compensate for the outlaw in your grp tho ?

or

[bright crane]

It’s a straight up skeleton crew over at Blizz

Tunings for sure going to happen over the next few weeks

[red zinc]

This mans still streaming?

Didnt he do some out of line shit

buncha slurs and doxxing someone i thought

[haughty wigeon]

Usually doesn’t stop wow streamer

[gaunt ether]

ks icon is cooked

[haughty wigeon]

Max got caught saying the gamer word and naming his pets gamer words

Still the most popular wow content creator

[lone crow]

the hell is gamer word

[vivid vessel]

@lone crow end of momma on live vs on ptr

[red zinc]

ye i guess

[haughty wigeon]

N word

[lone crow]

ohh

[vivid vessel]

overall at that point on lve vs ptr

outlaw just

idk

no words

[haughty wigeon]

Floorki can call tank tcers slurs and his fan base will still slobber on his nuts

[normal forge]

will undercoin reset?

[red zinc]

yes

[lone crow]

man its gonna be so rough at one point we gonna fall off so badly

[vivid vessel]

overall

[red zinc]

Naw we aint falling off

i just got hired at lizzard

Ill fix it after my vacation

[lone crow]

holy

[haughty wigeon]

I like how brew does double its damage

Prot too

Bear as well

[vivid vessel]

ok so im not trinna say outlaw on live isnt strong, it certainly is, but its barely considered meta on live while doing this damage, and you build a whole comp around the spec

so the damage it does on ptr

comparatively

is so fucking low

[haughty wigeon]

Buff blood ppal and vdh damage pls

[red zinc]

Wtf happened to shaman though

[lone crow]

it is for sure low

[red zinc]

he aint doing any chain lightnings

[vivid vessel]

eh random pug

but like even on live i dont see many people running outlaw

so

hell all the phys comps are still chosing to stay on assa

which means something

lol

[red zinc]

more to do with the goofy design than its damage i feel

[vivid vessel]

eh

idk about that

i think the damage on live is what outlaw needs to be doing

to be a good spec

you are building a whole comp aroubnd it, doing entire hard capped routes around it

you have no burst etrc

[lone crow]

i think ks being absolute cancer was for sure a reason a lot of ppl sticked to sin

[vivid vessel]

if the damage isnt folllowing

you are not a real spec

[red zinc]

end of the day they cant tune every spec to be good

Like they could

But from experience they are never going to

[vivid vessel]

they can certainly tune outlwa to be dogshit every season tho

thats for sure

[lone crow]

xdd

[vivid vessel]

they can nerf outlaw

[red zinc]

i aint that pressed you win some you lose some

[vivid vessel]

they litteraly did nerf outalw

i wasnt expecting for outlaw to get nerfed

but again

dogshit pc

in raid

nerfing outalw in m+

[lone crow]

fairly certain they gonna buff after a while right guys, whenever our early spike is gone

[vivid vessel]

once again

[lone crow]

hehe

surely

[vivid vessel]

lol

im like

expecting a week 2/3 nerf

im ngl

[red zinc]

naw itll probably look good on all bosses logs

[lone crow]

same man same

[vivid vessel]

once we get to the aoe bosses

with pc

[lone crow]

thats the thing

[vivid vessel]

outlaw is going to dominate so hard

[red zinc]

Like

lizzard opens wcl, 95th percentile all bosses average logs

[vivid vessel]

lil assa buff aswell?

[red zinc]

“Yoo outlaw doing pretty well” (people only play law on the aoe bosses)

[vivid vessel]

its gonna look low on wcl

poor spec

maybe need another 5% aura

[red zinc]

and then they leave it as is

Its pretty good in raid anyway outside of the burst phase issues

[vivid vessel]

ok

now

we need to have a talk

these bosses with free cleave

if you play pc on it

you are trolling

right

you lose 10% + st

[red zinc]

Depends if adds are dying I guess

[vivid vessel]

do do useless cleave

they were useless in ptr idk

[lone crow]

hmm it all depends on the add scaling, if u really need a spec who does crazy dam to all adds then ye outlaw is strong

[red zinc]

i didnt see mythic testing, idk if those adds are vital to be killed

[vivid vessel]

maybe they are relevant on live

[lone crow]

but if u dont then its literally padding

[red zinc]

and if they die auto or not

thats what you base that decision on i feel

[lone crow]

they died kinda fast on ptr

imo

[vivid vessel]

on both these bosses they were useless idk

[lone crow]

ye

[vivid vessel]

like i played pc

cause idk

its fun

and shit

but on prog

[red zinc]

Ye well then you shouldnt for prog

[vivid vessel]

i wouldnt have done that

[red zinc]

But reclear padding fuck it we ball

[vivid vessel]

ye well

kinda is my point tho

outlaw is going to look crazy jut padding

we might cope a lil nerf just for fun

and outlaw aoe in m+ stays dogshit anyway

cause of the worse data ever

[red zinc]

just pray wcl removes add damage from logs or something

[tight kernel]

FYI. If you use Talent Tree Tweaks. Turn off addon before accepting Wrapped Up.
It will auto level your cloak and not let you complete quest because blizzard decided to code the quest to only give credit if you "click" and not if you have the tree leveled. GG

[red zinc]

tuning reliant on a non blizzard employed website admin

pagman

[brisk canopy]

How much campaign do you need to access eco dome? Can you access tazavesh through the timeways portal or do you need campaign for that?

[keen belfry]

fellas

how do i do

phase diving activtieis

[red zinc]

dive into my phase

[keen belfry]

why cant i enter them

[red zinc]

You will get to tazavesh much before you get the cloak which is something you NEED

so id just go do the questline

[random stirrup]

yep got griefed by this too

unlucky

[buoyant cosmos]

Say less

[fierce mulch]

they nerfed cugdel? did an arakara and it never procced

[vivid vessel]

you using the trinket ?

the one that is bad

the

[vital wave]

Will you stream progress raid @vivid vessel ?

[vivid vessel]

gooner

[vivid vessel]

ye

gooner trinket

that spawn the good club

on lust

[red zinc]

good club 🥀

[vital wave]

Can’t wait to see you on sub

[tight kernel]

^ zac progging as sub

[latent oak]

@cinder relic the list of trinkets looks like this for me after f5 and control f5

[old gull]

I might just go sub… 5 second channel feels so strange

[tight kernel]

[brisk canopy]

Kk, was asking cause I’m trying to figure out if my group can just log on tonight and start doing m0s since we’re probably gonna do cloak later when our schedules aren’t synced up

[craggy barn]

need a last gcd in KS sound weak aura now

zac

[vivid vessel]

i have that kinda already

[craggy barn]

i can just add to the last gcd crackshot one right

[vivid vessel]

i made a weak aura that makes a sound

each tick

[red zinc]

Tazavesh is an instant teleport

[vivid vessel]

and at the end when full cp

[craggy barn]

ah

[red zinc]

Like the first quest

[vivid vessel]

so ytou like get the rythm

tick tick tick

then cance l

[sharp hinge]

i dont think you can cancel ks, just hit the damn button you want to press next

[craggy barn]

send pls?

[vivid vessel]

its stuck on ptr

[craggy barn]

ah

[vivid vessel]

[red zinc]

Eco-dome is in the same zone but I don’t think you can access it until you do a certain quest

[craggy barn]

rip

[dull sage]

we're cancelling ks on full combo points ye?

[craggy barn]

minimal

[red zinc]

Minimal loss even

just dont

[craggy barn]

oh right i needa add the [nochannel] tag to all buttons that matter now

or whatever it was

for the spell queue thing

[vivid vessel]

no you need to remove it lol

we cancel ks so

[brisk canopy]

Good to know, thanks!

[opaque helm]

do you cancel ks once max cp or let go full duration?

[vivid vessel]

whjatever you prefer

feels better to cancel if you ask me

[white marten]

Do we arcane surge prior to barraging?

[sharp hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/powerslap-slap-ko-knockout-slap-huge-slap-big-slap-gif-7471918422486227772

[red zinc]

Man im tryna watch more netflix i need that second of no brain activity so i can tilt my head

[compact narwhal]

is outlaw still the goated slept on spec it was since new changes?

[vivid vessel]

no lol

far from it

its back to dogshit status in m+

have fun

[compact narwhal]

fr?

sad af :(

assa bis now im assuming?

[vivid vessel]

assa is prolly yhe best spec in the game so

[tribal cosmos]

assa is like 10 % ahead of everyone

gg

[compact narwhal]

oh damn

sad

[tribal cosmos]

gonna roll assa soon

[compact narwhal]

snooze fest of a spec

[tribal cosmos]

yall done

the new delves

thats a true aids

[daring cave]

If you aren't pushing world firsts or KSL then just play whatever you want, it doesn't matter.

[vivid vessel]

it prolly matters more for random lfger lol

[remote estuary]

how do i get zac's rogue wa pack again?

[vivid vessel]

they have to get invited

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[compact narwhal]

always pushing world first just never get there.. :/

[remote estuary]

thanks king

[cinder relic]

God damn it

[latent oak]

:(

[cinder relic]

I'm back home tomorrow I'll fix it then

[latent oak]

doesnt effect the readability of the info or anything

[cinder relic]

Ya lol

[honest lotus]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cinder relic]

When I was doing it initially removing those brackets broke the whole table

[latent oak]

lmao

so its a w really

[tribal cosmos]

is there an infinite rep farm ?

[latent oak]

those brackets are holding the whole thing together

[frail veldt]

But you aren't on gcd in KS

What would be the purpose of this

[frail veldt]

That makes sense to time the cancel to when the last cp comes in

Is the cp generation rate just a function of your haste

[glass mortar]

doesnt it generate a cp per attack

so yes

[sharp hinge]

is Zac EU?

[vivid vessel]

yes

[tribal cosmos]

how many fractured starlights do we get this week ?

[tight kernel]

the cloak stuff

1

for the first level

[tribal cosmos]

no we get 6 this week for those

[civic zephyr]

when will zac weakauras be updated for new KS and shit?

[vivid vessel]

well

[quaint mauve]

ive been playing this entire time

[tribal cosmos]

fractured starlight is the craft stuff

[vivid vessel]

they shut down ptr

so

idk

[quaint mauve]

not knowing u can walk during KS

[vivid vessel]

i just redo it on live i guess

[glass mortar]

well u get 2 sparks so u should get... 4? fractured starlight? 2?

idr exactly how it works

its just a currency to track how many sparks you have earned innit

[civic zephyr]

oki thanks king, im eu too, just asking for rough idea <3

[tribal cosmos]

so we get 2 fractured sparks this week

[vivid vessel]

ye i mean you dont really need it till next week anwyay

it will all be updated before then

mayhbe

[glass mortar]

idk if its this week or next week tbh but yes u get two sparks the first week

[civic zephyr]

alrighty thanks man xD

[glass mortar]

then half a spark every week for the rest of the season

[sharp hinge]

makes sense youre always angy

[quaint mauve]

so... whos gonna be crafting a dagger

haha

[vivid vessel]

my guy

[glass mortar]

hes also fr*nch

makes even more sense tbh

[open coyote]

is HO not usable anymore in mythic+ ? is it just KiR now?

[glass mortar]

they have a baguette shortage for like 2 hours there and they pillage and overthrow the government

least thats what ive been told

[frail veldt]

Ho is very usable

[glass mortar]

they dont mess around

[keen belfry]

zac

[frail veldt]

The gap between ho and KiR is growing by 3%

From s2 to s3

[keen belfry]

tell me basicas on your KS combo point WA

[open coyote]

its not in wowhead (at least i dont see it) is it just the same build as before?

[keen belfry]

@vivid vessel

[frail veldt]

If you think an extra 3% makes it unplayable that's on you

[glass mortar]

builds dont change until ur tier changes other then picking up kspree as fatebound

[vivid vessel]

whta does this means my dude

[glass mortar]

but not really any reason to play fatebound until tier either

[keen belfry]

like whats the riggert

treigger

[frail veldt]

No the new build would be running vigor and not super charger

[keen belfry]

trigger