outlaw

[glossy pewter]

so based

[cinder relic]

Well there's "technically" nothing to fix with the ship. It's just the end result of how wow works

[glossy pewter]

Dagger mogs are ALL dogshit

[cinder relic]

I think it's only ks and charge that has issues right?

[grim spear]

the second boss of manaforge drops a dagger

so

[jolly geyser]

artifact weapons override dagger

[lethal oak]

Time for sub

[grim spear]

yep vers/mast sub dagger

[buoyant cosmos]

Sounds about right, I could see blink breaking too. Just because.

fuu's sheet has a OH dagger for us, is that just because it can be full myth ilevel vs crafted sword OH

[keen belfry]

I want a sword for tmog

Someone find me a sword

[buoyant cosmos]

same

The kyrian swords look good

[keen belfry]

My swords r so good rn

I can’t do a dagger

[onyx spear]

Any tl dr somewhere if in come back for tommorow, what should I do today for Last day and embelishment swap? Get the Belt and craft Double Focus Lense on wrist and Ring or something Like that?

[cinder relic]

I don't think blink would but I'm not sure

[lethal oak]

Hailstorm is BiS

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah, i mean dagger is literally better, but it's basically nothing

[buoyant cosmos]

Got it

[cinder relic]

Charge just works weird when targets are moving. Which they are on the ship. And ks "puts you back to where you started"

[grim spear]

wow's engine is too old to properly support combat on moving objects

they shouldve just fixed the ship in place and made the rest of the world move instead

[buoyant cosmos]

full on movie action lol

[cinder relic]

I feel like that would be even harder when the entire map is open

It's also only an issue for like 2 abilities I think

I legit can't think of another that breaks on the ships

[buoyant cosmos]

Ahh I didn't know that's how it was breaking, I didn't play S1. Just saw people falling though the floor.

[gaunt phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1374816516414898248/killin_pee.gif

[buoyant cosmos]

🙃

[grim spear]

Just throw in a background model

a simplified terrain map with a few dummy characters

plus some clouds and a skybox

that should be good enough.

[red zinc]

Did someone end up simming the 678 cudgel btw

[grim spear]

what? why?

[covert kestrel]

BiS

[gaunt phoenix]

I did

[covert kestrel]

theyre updating the nightfall weps to adventurer track for s3

[gaunt phoenix]

it's not really "bis"

[grim spear]

holy

no way

[gaunt phoenix]

It looks good at mega big pulls but even then idk

[red zinc]

Saved

[covert kestrel]

sorry i just wanted to spread misinformation on the internet

[gaunt phoenix]

not like you can swap back during ks

[red zinc]

i mean no point in playing it unless it was like 0.5%+ better on all aoe

[buoyant cosmos]

Is the first pull of gambit still half the murlocs on the map?

[glass mortar]

it being better at 8 targets and obviously beyond that is just cringe what r u gunna do

who tf wants to try to optimize that

[gaunt phoenix]

i mean ill probably grab it for funsies and use it on 28 mobs

[mighty pivot]

it is on par with mythic offhands

[red zinc]

I hate that it exists though im sure there’ll be plenty of questions about it throughout the patch

[mighty pivot]

and you won't have that immediately

[red zinc]

Yeah i will

[copper owl]

Every time I catch up on this discord it'll be like sub has 15 posts, ass has 50, and outlaw has 3750. Popping off in here

[red zinc]

you just aint trying hard enough

[buoyant cosmos]

just get the drop

[gaunt phoenix]

we hit 6 million

[red zinc]

what are the other channels lookin like

[jolly geyser]

yay ig

[red zinc]

ez

[white marten]

Cries in HO being 10% behind KiR

[mighty pivot]

will you also drop the crests to max upgrade it? 🤔 🏄‍♀️ 🏄‍♂️

[red zinc]

Feel like the gap should be bigger honestly

[jolly geyser]

half outlaw messages is zac and zeross

[glossy pewter]

wipe your tears and like a real build

[red zinc]

Just kill last bosses day 1 lol

[white marten]

1fth kir is sooo real id rather play assa

[glass mortar]

nah the HOers are right

[glossy pewter]

although I need you guys to do some more theory crafting, these dice rules are not hard enough

[glass mortar]

1 fth is an abomination

[mint lily]

Not @ ing them is crazy

[glass mortar]

id rather kir be unplayable if thats what is gunna be optimal

[buoyant cosmos]

Always

[red zinc]

1fth the goat no cap

I play wow to suffer

[jolly geyser]

@vivid vessel @proven ocean

[red zinc]

Korthia best patch oat

[jolly geyser]

like this?

[buoyant cosmos]

I love pressing SS 4 times

[white marten]

Make fth 1 talent point for max.

[glass mortar]

what about pressing SS 3 times and still needing to PS twice to finish

[white marten]

Delete GS tbh

[glass mortar]

do u love that also

[buoyant cosmos]

so much

[red zinc]

wat

[white marten]

Two pumps max is what i can give

[red zinc]

that math doesnt add up

[glass mortar]

SS to 3, PS to 5, PS to 7

I started with zero here because my CP decayed obviously

[buoyant cosmos]

unlucky

[mighty pivot]

happens to the best of us

[red zinc]

am i cooked

Dry ps?

[mighty pivot]

no that's 1fth

[white marten]

Blizzard is cooked. Its unreal that were going on to 4 back to back seasons with 1fth + GS being the dominant outlaw spec.

[glass mortar]

no ur probably not cooked i just didnt do math, is dry PS with 1 fth 2 or 3 CP

[light dune]

whats a good benchmark for when KS comes back that you dont send a vanish? like 20 seconds? (assuming no overcap + no ar drop + gg)

[glass mortar]

i thought it was 2

[red zinc]

I swear its 3

[white marten]

4

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah 20-30s is fine

[mighty pivot]

1fth is 2cp

[gaunt phoenix]

doesnt seem to be strict number

[covert kestrel]

Zeross only at 183k messages is honeslty shocking to me

[buoyant cosmos]

professional yapper

[red zinc]

Army arc

[light dune]

so its just kinda if you get the KS off without suffering negative effects of not getting into vanish?

[red zinc]

was gone for a while

[jolly geyser]

I got almost 126k

[tropic zephyr]

HO fan + GS hater, checks out

[white marten]

Gs is ass bro

[jolly geyser]

been here since 2017

[mighty pivot]

everybody hates GS tbh

[gaunt phoenix]

its the same as the current trickster rule, just trying to minimize wasting KS cdr

[white marten]

Stop lying to yourself

[covert kestrel]

Fuu is just beating out ForeverGuy with 566k vs 543k

[quaint wharf]

Fatebound is that ahead in ST wow

[glossy pewter]

GS is cringe but so is HO, bring back blade rush and make it mega uncapped AOE dam we play around

[tropic zephyr]

It's off GCD so you can react for finishers with it

• it's prio damage

[red zinc]

I dont have a lot of messages but mine are efficient

[mighty pivot]

wdym react for finishers with it?

[red zinc]

High ragebait rating compared to others

[glass mortar]

wdym react for finishers with it

[white marten]

GS + 1fth is quite possibly the most anticlimactic set of combo points in this entire game. Nothing comes close.

[glass mortar]

u just press that shit on cd

thats like how the apl plays it now

i dont think it even cares about the gen anymore

[red zinc]

This was with ER

Not anymore

[quaint mauve]

especially

when he

types like

this

[white marten]

LmaO

[glass mortar]

all this ability does is tax ur energy budget and make u do like 12% more ST and u dont even feel it

can literally macro it now a day

ghostly is ass

[buoyant cosmos]

I took it out of my macros lol

[glass mortar]

which is a shame because ogcd buttons can feel real fun on law

[jolly geyser]

should make bte apply ghostly

[mighty pivot]

imagine praising GS's design

[white marten]

Based

[buoyant cosmos]

guess I could just put it back in

[red zinc]

Should make gs into a spell that plunders your targets booty silly style

[glass mortar]

realistically the only times the macro isnt 99% of optimal is when ur heavily swapping targets

its sad where ghostly has ended up design wise

[quaint mauve]

gs would be infinitely better if it didn’t cost energy

[rapid spoke]

gs is ok fuck rtb tho

[tropic zephyr]

I like having an off GCD ability that I can use to correct any missing CP, esp during crackshot

[jolly geyser]

should make GS remove 1 item from your bags everytime you use it

[quaint mauve]

watch ur mouth

i love gambling

[glass mortar]

just make ghostly a real button?

i mean this isnt rocket science

[mighty pivot]

@wintry solar time for you to remind everyone that you hate rtb and kir

[glass mortar]

if its going to be "played" as a passive because 99% of its value is passive then make it a dedicated passive

[jolly geyser]

make GS make you a ghost irl

[glass mortar]

or make pressing the button noticable

[buoyant cosmos]

go on

[glass mortar]

and i dont mean noticable as in "oh whered all my energy go"

[rapid spoke]

I'm prepared in not taking it

[lethal oak]

That's why BtE should cast RtB everytime

[glass mortar]

if u dont like RtB its probably new spec angle man idk what to tell people who are ademently against this

they did their "no RtB" experiment with SnD or w/e a few expacs ago

it didnt work and they gave up

RtB is a core part of outlaw tho its not going anywhere

[rapid spoke]

throw it out to trash where it belongs

it's not like I play myth

[zinc briar]

How much to release in ohio?

[jolly geyser]

Make rtb to able to us to pay for good buffs,surely nothing can go wrong

[mighty pivot]

ok but if you are saving GS to "correct" CP then you are losing uptime on it

[buoyant cosmos]

we need to bring back deepening insight

[gaunt phoenix]

should be a choice node where you either pick RTB or pick a talent that mega amps CTO proc chance

[quaint mauve]

i have a clip of me not rolling rp once during second boss of priory

[glass mortar]

i mean as long as ur never holding it to try to do this

[jolly geyser]

make rtb roll every ps hit

[glass mortar]

it might align to do this nicely a couple times a fight i guess

its not optimal or anything tho

[quaint wharf]

maaaan i dont wanna go back to KiR

[glass mortar]

this button is just worthless now and worse it feels shitty to press, especially if u fell out of AR

[tropic zephyr]

Yeah, happens quite a lot

[glass mortar]

pressing ghostly with no AR is asking for blizz to shit on u

[white marten]

Im pretty sure the outlaw dev hasnt played 1fth + gs in any form of content

[mighty pivot]

GS only feels good with the new FB tier and that's because it gets gigabuffed by it

[tropic zephyr]

Yeah no lie the energy cost is insane tho

[buoyant cosmos]

trickster left to rot

[white marten]

Silly of me to assume that outlaw even has a dev

[tropic zephyr]

Sometimes it makes me feel drained even tho I'm on bt + ar

[gaunt phoenix]

if we keep fatebound then the tier should be integrated going into midnight

[keen belfry]

I agree

[buoyant cosmos]

Are we getting more hero talents or regular talents

[mighty pivot]

it should be baseline yeah

[covert kestrel]

if they dont hard reset hero talents for midnight imma be so sad

[keen belfry]

This seems like bandaid fix that they will give to us

[gaunt phoenix]

i fully believe they do not have the time to cook 58 new hero trees

[keen belfry]

I also would hope for a little outlaw rework on midnight

I think

[jolly geyser]

no way in hell

[quaint mauve]

hi awang

[buoyant cosmos]

I think it's just expand them vs all new

maybe 5 points instead of 10

[covert kestrel]

damn didnt realize there were that many

[tribal cosmos]

Oh fuck

[covert kestrel]

counting go crazy

[quaint wharf]

keep trickster and replace fatebound

[tribal cosmos]

Theres a new class coming out

[keen belfry]

FTH 1 talent point, rtb change, and small fatebound fix esp for the aoe talents that turn off could be a sufficient but good enough rework

[tribal cosmos]

Dmeonhunter voidhunter

[keen belfry]

Also, make KS target ur prio target man then im ok

[mighty pivot]

then they should take the offer of zac sending over his salary to realz to spend time on rogue/outlaw

[covert kestrel]

MAKE 1HR TRICKS BASELINEEEEEE

[gaunt phoenix]

dmeonunhetr

[tribal cosmos]

Dmeonhunta

HUNTRIXXXXXX

HUNTER

[jolly geyser]

dermurnhntr

[tribal cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/kpop-demon-hunters-yell-scream-letsgo-gif-16295323058520837982

[quaint mauve]

everytime i see a clip from this movie

my blood geniunely boils

[coral onyx]

!stats

[ornate heath]

A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The HO build gets Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[covert kestrel]

its a show

[quaint mauve]

i hope u stub ur toe dude

while holding a plate of food

[hybrid crown]

I think it's a movie

Pretty sure?

[covert kestrel]

i hope your arcane mage is mid and you come crawling back home

[quaint mauve]

yeah i’m pretty sure too

[covert kestrel]

yeah it is lmao

[quaint mauve]

my mage is level 20 and it’s gonna stay that way actually

[covert kestrel]

🤭

[quaint mauve]

until legion remix

i’m the only rogue in my guild i don’t get a choice

[worldly shale]

https://tenor.com/view/once-an-outlaw-always-an-outlaw-danteh-hydration-outlaws-you-cant-escape-being-an-outlaw-gif-19138825

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-callouts-rogue-gif-26757787

[hybrid crown]

I'm going to do another rogue for legion remix lol

I have 4 level 80 rogues already

But I have one of everything at at least 70 🤷‍♂️

[white marten]

Frost still good. Ez

[quaint mauve]

me too

[white marten]

Arcane mage buff soon

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-water-gif-19744162

[chilly atlas]

i have 1 of everything at 80 besides evoker and warlock, well i have 2 rogues and warriors

[quaint mauve]

i want another name

on my rogue

[proven ocean]

5lmh

[white marten]

Reroll DK at this point tbh

[quaint mauve]

bro i have the name hml on classic on benedict

[covert kestrel]

aychteeemmellfive

[quaint mauve]

but the person who has it on a52 on retail

doesnt play

[white marten]

I love egg benedicts

[tropic zephyr]

Everybody mocking this cat, but he's actually 5head because this is the only way he doesn't wet his whiskers

[covert kestrel]

just dont order it at restaurants

[quaint mauve]

SAME

[quaint mauve]

nah theres this one breakfast place near me

and their egg benedict is so good

[covert kestrel]

“While we're on brunch, how about hollandaise sauce? Not for me. Bacteria love hollandaise. And hollandaise, that delicate emulsion of egg yolks and clarified butter, must be held at a temperature not too hot nor too cold, lest it break when spooned over your poached eggs. Unfortunately, this lukewarm holding temperature is also the favorite environment for bacteria to copulate and reproduce in. Nobody I know has ever made hollandaise to order. Most likely, the stuff on your eggs was made hours ago and held on station. Equally disturbing is the likelihood that the butter used in the hollandaise is melted table butter, heated, clarified, and strained to get out all the breadcrumbs and cigarette butts. Butter is expensive, you know. Hollandaise is a veritable petri-dish of biohazards.”

― Anthony Bourdain, Kitchen Confidential: Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly

[stiff vector]

[quaint mauve]

anddd u ruined it 4 me

[covert kestrel]

sorry that was tony 🙁

[tropic zephyr]

A delicious petri-dish of biohazard he should have said

[covert kestrel]

learn to make hollandaise at home = stonks

[frail veldt]

its kind of a bitch to make

[covert kestrel]

immersion blender stays goated

[frail veldt]

well you have to do a double boiler

[stiff vector]

mmm homemade bacteria>resturaunt bacteria

[frail veldt]

well its fine when its fresh

the problem is that you cant store hollandaise very well and not cause it to split so they just keep it at temp

if its made to order then theres no issue

[craggy barn]

just use a stabalizer

[covert kestrel]

and no restaurant gonna be making hollandaise to order for any shit lol

[frail veldt]

I mean

a nice restaurant will

but like "nice nice"

also if its busy enough

[jolly geyser]

xantam gum keeps it together

[craggy barn]

the god stabalizer

[frail veldt]

ALSO

bacteria aint gona kill you

its like

fine

lol

[chilly atlas]

some bacteria is good for you

[proven ocean]

water drops on his head so his brain registers that its drinking water by sending water signals straight through

[covert kestrel]

Mewo is an E Coli/Salmonella sympathizer

[buoyant cosmos]

love using it

especially since i have to cook for gluten free people

[craggy barn]

ye

[frail veldt]

e coli is from leafy greens usually I thought

[sharp hinge]

so what all gets released today

[frail veldt]

and salmonella is from meat I thought lol

[buoyant cosmos]

you can get sal from egg

[frail veldt]

oh true

but from the shells

[covert kestrel]

theyre both bacteria tho

[buoyant cosmos]

yeah it grows on the outside

[frail veldt]

yeah

[jolly geyser]

but US bleaches their eggs so gg

or some shit

[gaunt phoenix]

delves !

[craggy barn]

minimum just washing it and removing the top film

[buoyant cosmos]

and chicken

[jolly geyser]

ye

[frail veldt]

lots of meat

not just chicken

[buoyant cosmos]

ah learned something new

[frail veldt]

Yeah i thought the same thing til not that long ago

[sharp hinge]

worth doing the campaign?

[frail veldt]

I think I learned that this year

[covert kestrel]

I got E coli in Cusco peru and was hospitalized for 4 days and lost 25lbs

[chilly atlas]

so we basically need to get a heroic vault from delves?

[frail veldt]

LOL

im from peru

[stiff vector]

huge day for delve mains like weran

[frail veldt]

well my family is

[gaunt phoenix]

i think you need it to unlock raid

[frail veldt]

never drink their water

[red zinc]

And cloak

[jolly geyser]

also washing your meat just spread the germs (just usa things)

[covert kestrel]

love peru, didnt like that experience

[buoyant cosmos]

I learned that a lot of bacon is doctored in brine to make it taste "better"

[frail veldt]

ACTUALLY though

you can get a vaccine

to prevent getting sick from the water/veggies

[covert kestrel]

it was from a pizza place

[frail veldt]

its a new thing

[sharp hinge]

really?

[frail veldt]

new

coworker told me about it for theit trip to south america

[buoyant cosmos]

You need to do some of it for the cloak too afaik

[sharp hinge]

well atleast we have a week to do it

[chilly atlas]

i mean you always brine bacon with curing salt, sometimes its wet, sometimes its dry

[sharp hinge]

cloak is this week?

[jolly geyser]

si

[buoyant cosmos]

Ah got it. I read that they just soak it in something so it gets that cured flavor faster

vs dry smoked or w/e

[sharp hinge]

and just to make sure, we just get a random quest for it today?

[jolly geyser]

yes

[craggy barn]

washing chicken specifically is a huge bacteria spreading activity

[jolly geyser]

should pop up

[sharp hinge]

kewl ty ❤️

[gaunt phoenix]

better review

[craggy barn]

theres cases in non american cooking of washing things like beef or veal

[buoyant cosmos]

I never wash it

[craggy barn]

as part of yhe tenderizatuon process

[sharp hinge]

what ilvl is the cape

[jolly geyser]

im EU, but im just going from previous patch xp @sharp hinge

[frank finch]

ok i have completed 12 hours of straight sleep , are the servers up yet

or do i go back tp bed

[buoyant cosmos]

6 PST

[frank finch]

back to bed cya

[jolly geyser]

jerk off and sleep some more

[buoyant cosmos]

me when I spread misinformation

[gaunt phoenix]

its 694, upgrades to 730

[glass mortar]

its no trashmaster mantle but itll do

[rapid spoke]

also just saw 3 parts of set with mastery, tough

[jolly geyser]

I got the dfc cloak on

[sharp hinge]

i DE that cloak everytime it drops

[gaunt phoenix]

we are so overloaded on stats that some mastery is fine anyway

[rapid spoke]

I don't like the bis setup this season at all xD

so many crafts

[jolly geyser]

2 rings

[glass mortar]

did the bis list drop solo

is it in the faq

[gaunt phoenix]

yer

[glass mortar]

!!!

[buoyant cosmos]

Do they move DR values on secondaries between patches? Or just with the xpac

[frank finch]

do we know yet what stats that ring from raid drops with

[glass mortar]

the artificial DRs are always in place

[vivid vessel]

is ptr down

[glass mortar]

we are already versa dr'd

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[buoyant cosmos]

yeah I have been

[vivid vessel]

fuuuuck

wtf am i gonna do

[jolly geyser]

play something else

[covert kestrel]

enjoy the summer

[buoyant cosmos]

nice walk for pastery and cafe

[glass mortar]

go outside?

[vivid vessel]

i hate getting home from work

[glass mortar]

find a french taco

[covert kestrel]

before the doomclouds roll back in tomorrow

[vivid vessel]

and have nothing to do

[rapid spoke]

at some point I boasted over having almost to no mastery, and I liked it that way lolo

[vivid vessel]

wtf

[jolly geyser]

only wow players are like lol players

[rapid spoke]

if there was a developer that would be quickly changed to make mastery useful but you know how it is

[sacred rune]

this week is basically world tour

[lethal oak]

Someone talk me in to playing outlaw and tell me I won't hate pugging as it

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-worldwide-gif-26368506

[glass mortar]

get delvin

[jolly geyser]

except tazavesh

[glass mortar]

you guys know what time it is?

its delve o clock

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-neat-thing-that's-the-neat-part-invincible-gif-3109787441708074597

[sacred rune]

delves and m0 runs

[frank finch]

how do we still nto know what stats this has

[sacred rune]

but only 6/8 m0 are open

[glass mortar]

wonder how 11s will feel in current gear

[gaunt phoenix]

its not working on ptr either

[chilly atlas]

do m0s give heroic vault?

[sacred rune]

market is diffrent this tier

[covert kestrel]

no champ

[glass mortar]

m0 no longer has a lockout or is it weekly still

[lofty pike]

Just a rnd question: are Here in the discord devs too Like in the other class discords?^^

[covert kestrel]

weekly

[rapid spoke]

weekly lockout

[sacred rune]

and will release in hard mode with 10 key level loot with raid

[buoyant cosmos]

loot is weekly

[glass mortar]

thank christ

[buoyant cosmos]

I think you can keep running them to help people if you wanted

[craggy barn]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rapid spoke]

tazavesh is locked tho

[covert kestrel]

theyre always watching

[chilly atlas]

will delve slots from this week be able to proc tier items on our next vault?

[covert kestrel]

slash to get the last box slot you need to do two m0 with no loot

[lofty pike]

Why are we Like this then?!

[craggy barn]

embels are stil like 1% difference right

[covert kestrel]

yes

[covert kestrel]

yes

[jolly geyser]

think im gonna bind tazavesh hardmode mount and get some wtf from uninformed people

[gaunt phoenix]

there is realz, someone on the combat design team who works on rogue. he talks sometimes. no you should not ping him

[glass mortar]

1% is like no embel to an embel

between embels is probably like 0.2% at this point

[craggy barn]

perfect

[hybrid pecan]

Why is ghostly strike such a dps loss in aoe which leads me to the actual question which is how does blade flurry work. It says "normal" damage.

[buoyant cosmos]

can you make it so individuals can't be ping'd on discord?

I'd guess not if you're saying not to

[lofty pike]

Wouldn't Ping him, but i guess he Sees the slight disapointment in current Outlaw?

[glass mortar]

ghostly has no value in aoe except its direct damage and its main target damage

[gaunt phoenix]

nah

[glass mortar]

the problem is it competes with strong aoe talents

[craggy barn]

ghostly is just pure single target

[gaunt phoenix]

the amplication effect from ghostly does not translate into increased blade flurry damage

cause it is a targeted debuff

[craggy barn]

holy servers!

[jolly geyser]

BF should spread gs

[gaunt phoenix]

only that specific target takes more dmg

[buoyant cosmos]

iirc he works on a few different classes, and big changes probably have to be approved by a few different managers so it just takes forever.

[hybrid pecan]

Ok so this: "It is possible to remove :gs: Ghostly Strike to take 2 points in :ps: Fan the Hammer for more consistency, though you will eat a ~6% ST loss and ~3% AoE loss." that 3% just means the damage you're losing on the prio target

Not like actual aoe

[glass mortar]

i mean the target ur hitting is part of ur aoe

but yes

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah, you still lose total dps, but it's not like aoe dps per se

[hybrid pecan]

I guess so but wanted to make sure i wasn't completely misunderstanding the spec

[lofty pike]

Sorry If my questions seem dumb Sometimes, but it hit hard, was finally playing rogue again since WoD, and i really Loved the Combat gameplay

[craggy barn]

guys stop yapping servers are up

[hybrid pecan]

Nice bait

[glass mortar]

you are losing damage at like every target count making that trade because ghostly does so much ST

[buoyant cosmos]

not dumb

[jolly geyser]

EU server up!

[glass mortar]

and ST damage is part of our aoe since we use the same buttons

[gaunt phoenix]

though ghostly itself does deal damage (that flurries) and generates cps

[craggy barn]

no bait

real

[hybrid pecan]

I see

[hybrid pecan]

For EU maybe

[buoyant cosmos]

this is NA

[jolly geyser]

480p

[glass mortar]

servers are up according to my guild

[buoyant cosmos]

work laptop from 2015 go brrr

[mossy shell]

I'm afraid of change can we stop the patch 🙁

[craggy barn]

im NA

[jolly geyser]

nah face it head on nessa

[hybrid pecan]

Bro no fucking way

They're actually up

I was actually prepared for 4 maintenance extensions

[buoyant cosmos]

https://i.imgur.com/dS0zU82.jpeg

[buoyant cosmos]

same

[chilly atlas]

same

[gaunt phoenix]

have fun NA beta testers

[jolly geyser]

oh you got that tiger mount

[covert kestrel]

quick open vault

[buoyant cosmos]

guys what do I take

[jolly geyser]

mace

[keen belfry]

Wraps cuz kelp

[random stirrup]

3000 gold in tokens cuh

get your money up

[buoyant cosmos]

not my funny?

[jolly geyser]

3000 is nothing but its something

[keen belfry]

Ryldd is so broke

[glass mortar]

the gear is also nothing

pick mog or pick money

[buoyant cosmos]

That's the plan

[random stirrup]

the gear is meaningless

[jolly geyser]

im missing wrist from full mythic set

[glass mortar]

u cant upgrade any s2 gear anymore so

basically any s3 gear will compete or beat it

[buoyant cosmos]

we take LFR cloak

[hybrid pecan]

horrific visions still up and you get s3 gear

[glass mortar]

oh goddamnit i forgot to get my visions achievement

i wonder if it went away with the season

[gaunt phoenix]

aww yeah 690 gear or whatever

[glass mortar]

the 50k resource one

[buoyant cosmos]

I think you still can, it was just head enchants that wouldn't work

[glass mortar]

wait the head enchant literally turns off or we cant put it on s3 gear

[buoyant cosmos]

I think it said "only works for TWW season 2"

[random stirrup]

it has already turned off

[covert kestrel]

use the tokens for flightstones for the new patch

[glass mortar]

lmao

[jolly geyser]

valor didnt reset did it?

[vivid vessel]

crazy stuff ngl

thats some banger

[buoyant cosmos]

no

[random stirrup]

valor didnt reset

[glass mortar]

btw has anyone seen liquids new bloodmallet

@upper surge pinged us all in raid chat that it exists but not to look for it because its turbo trash

[vivid vessel]

what

[covert kestrel]

liquidmallet?

[glass mortar]

so now i really wanna see it

also he gets angy everytime i ping him in here

[covert kestrel]

pinging him while hes down, low blow

[glass mortar]

its ok he mogs us all in raid so he can take it

[vivid vessel]

@upper surge yo dude i know you are muted byut can you send me the link to liquid bloodmallet

[jolly geyser]

why is Larias muted

[sharp hinge]

he spams shit

[covert kestrel]

my bad

[frail veldt]

how do you see it

[sharp hinge]

his stupid guide

[random stirrup]

why are the mobs going grey on this intro quest

with 50000 people here

[glass mortar]

mobs have a tag limit

even in modern wow

its just usually very high?

for regular mobs that is

[random stirrup]

aint no way we are hitting it

[covert kestrel]

idk i just was making a joke about the name

[covert kestrel]

kek

[vivid vessel]

tf

[jolly geyser]

ok?

[jovial dome]

Sure we do. I mean we play Outlaw

[vivid vessel]

@upper surge change it back dude

[glass mortar]

smh me when it was a sin rogue that muted him but all rogues get blamed

😠

[vivid vessel]

weran

what is the website tho

im curious now

[glass mortar]

idk thats why i was asking in here???

he wont link it in guild discord

because its so bad

he'd probably delete it if i found and linked even

[vivid vessel]

sounds fake i cant find shit

[glass mortar]

yea same googling is failing me

[frail veldt]

same

[wintry solar]

[frail veldt]

@wintry solar

[sharp hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-abridged-mr-popo-all-these-squares-make-a-circle-gif-20563687

[wintry solar]

Meet me in durotar

[glass mortar]

wonder if they took it down quickly cause it was unfinished or something

[jolly geyser]

[frail veldt]

what even was it?

a website for outlaw guide?

im confused

[glass mortar]

u have all the info i have

[jolly geyser]

its gearing guide thing

for sweats

[gaunt phoenix]

you really stirred the pot with this one

[frail veldt]

aaaaah that thing

[frail veldt]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[warped mantle]

this is how chinese whispers works

how did u come to

'it's the guide'

[frail veldt]

the super long "max out gearing" thing that we get every season

I remember that

[warped mantle]

from him saying it's about liquid bloodmallet

[vagrant jacinth]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[sharp hinge]

wtf is liquid bloodmallet

[glass mortar]

i told him this sounds like some EU bait to try to keep us NA players down

[sharp hinge]

isnt that 2 different things

[glass mortar]

but i cant find the website

so maybe it was so bad they took it down idk

[warped mantle]

schizoposting

@upper surge

[haughty wigeon]

And we’ll do it again

[glass mortar]

well idk i feel like google would find this thingy pretty quick???

[vivid vessel]

im asking chatgpt to do a mega search but its not finding anything i think

[haughty wigeon]

[hybrid crown]

just hitting the dummy a bit cycling through a few KS's it feel good so far

[vivid vessel]

i think its mega fake

[warped mantle]

ofc its fake

[hybrid crown]

I feel like I am going to miss the season 2 tier

[sharp hinge]

slot machine tier set

[vivid vessel]

@glass mortar got him

what a noob

[glass mortar]

HE ACTUALLY DM'D U

latias ur so cute

[vivid vessel]

[glass mortar]

i appreciate u

[haughty wigeon]

[warped mantle]

https://liquidarmory.com/trinket-tracker?wowClass=Rogue&wowSpec=Outlaw

[glass mortar]

🥰

[vivid vessel]

ok well

i guess its exactly just bloodmallet

whats the point

[sharp hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/aahh-gif-24153768

[gaunt phoenix]

this is fine

[haughty wigeon]

Should i use algari alchemy stone?

It says it’s good

[vivid vessel]

ye idk i dont get it

[gaunt phoenix]

does it

[vivid vessel]

its bloodmallet but

with 0 fonctionallity

[mighty pivot]

I thought you'd be more of a late night goldshire inn person

[vivid vessel]

just trinkets in st

[sharp hinge]

dont trust liquid, EU Scum

[vivid vessel]

tahts your profile solo right @gaunt phoenix

[buoyant cosmos]

I want to see the people in goldshire at noon.

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[buoyant cosmos]

that's the real freak hours

[vivid vessel]

ye

idk

its just bloodmallet but worse

why would you do that or

[harsh mural]

Why did this just spawn in on my screen this patch. how to hide wtf

[gaunt phoenix]

idk. maybe they wanted ptr data before bloodmallet updated

[harsh mural]

blizz UI is truly so bad. its so far from being able to replace any Weakaura

[glass mortar]

press the arrow?

[vivid vessel]

you are getting skill issued rn

im ngl

[harsh mural]

dont want th ebig one either

i dont want any bag .

[hybrid crown]

oof I looked at the tier pants last thinking ooh we arent forced to get too much mastery

[harsh mural]

wasnt there before why is it there now

[vivid vessel]

you had a bag addon or smth before then

[covert kestrel]

are you an elvui

user

[vivid vessel]

you are cooked cb guy

[glass mortar]

hmm ok so i am safe to just submit outlawliquidmallet for my bis list needed for raid right?

[sharp hinge]

why is the bags bothering you so much lul

[glass mortar]

can get i get ur stamp of approval solo

[harsh mural]

yes. havent changed any elv settings and updated just now

[covert kestrel]

yeah

[vivid vessel]

idk

[buoyant cosmos]

theres your problem

[vivid vessel]

its weird no ?

[covert kestrel]

elvui isnt updated

when you dont update it

[plucky lantern]

Hey all, my guild is asking me to swap to assassination cause of all the tier lists putting it at the top. Is the performance difference really high enough to be worth swapping specs? I’m an outlaw believer but they got me questioning myself a bit. Sorry if this isn’t the right chat room for this question.

[vivid vessel]

if it at least had more functionabilities

[covert kestrel]

so thats blizz

[glass mortar]

glhf wait a month for elvui public updates or w/e

[vivid vessel]

its just bloodmallet but worse

[harsh mural]

Blizz UI is dogshit awful. unlucky

[vivid vessel]

but on the liquid website

[covert kestrel]

what rank of mythic is your guild

[buoyant cosmos]

show them the fuu sims and play w/e

it doesn't matter

unless your like world 10 or smthn

[sharp hinge]

this is why i refuse to run elvui, it breaks on everything and fucks things up for weeks

[glass mortar]

sins probably better, if not raw dps then dps profile, for most fights but thats not really relevant to most guilds

[buoyant cosmos]

I love when elvui users collectively lose their minds every patch forgetting it always breaks

[azure vortex]

No offense but if you had to ask this here then probably it doesnt matter

[glass mortar]

im just surprised anyone using elvui wonders why their ui doesnt work for the first 2 weeks of a patch

[vivid vessel]

noob

[buoyant cosmos]

it's /because/ they use elvui

[harsh mural]

L

u love staring at that bag

[vivid vessel]

outplayed by an addon

[plucky lantern]

Thanks for your insight fellow outlaws 😎

[vivid vessel]

i have it in small somewhere

dont even see it

[buoyant cosmos]

do the outlaw thing and play what you want

100% class fantasy

[sharp hinge]

because they cant run anything else lol, stanard blizz ui FTW

[harsh mural]

ye super small and hidden ;D

[mighty pivot]

I just hide my bags because I have fingers to press B

[buoyant cosmos]

zac living life in 4k

[white marten]

Does naguura main Outlaw?

[covert kestrel]

self report for 1080p gamer

[vivid vessel]

no?

she mains boomie lol

[wintry solar]

be ashamed

[harsh mural]

[wintry solar]

@mighty pivot

[white marten]

Boring.

[mighty pivot]

popo tell me a good story to fall asleep

[vivid vessel]

i didnt import my plater from ptr yet

am i fucked guys

[wintry solar]

I know an old native american story about why mosquitos exist

[vivid vessel]

it went off sooner than expected

[glass mortar]

o7

[vivid vessel]

[mighty pivot]

time to dig the saved variables zac

[glass mortar]

cant u just pull it out of ur ptr wtf

[vivid vessel]

ye you can

its super annoyiung tho

[mighty pivot]

why though

[buoyant cosmos]

no export?

oh it's down

[vivid vessel]

well its down

[covert kestrel]

isnt it in like the wtf or interface folder

[vivid vessel]

ye

[random stirrup]

outplayed by addon noob

[vivid vessel]

[covert kestrel]

[mighty pivot]

I had to fix bricked WAs in my saved variables a few years ago. It's really fun trying to fix lua tables of hundreds of lines

[daring oxide]

what the heck is liquid armory?

[vivid vessel]

bloodmallet but bad

[mighty pivot]

it's bloodmallet but harder to read

[vivid vessel]

idk

[buoyant cosmos]

could you drag your ptr interface/wtf folders over to your main install tomorrow?

[vivid vessel]

ye

but then i override my live one

i can have the live one copied somewhere

but

[sharp hinge]

wheres the quest Zac

[vivid vessel]

its not good anyway

[white marten]

Can someone verify the shadow outlaw buff

[vivid vessel]

i wanted to copy the things i changed

onto live

annoying gg

oh well

[glass mortar]

please use the correct name

[buoyant cosmos]

c'est la vie as the italians say

[glass mortar]

outlawliquidmallet armory

thanks

[white marten]

I think those are the Irish

[civic zephyr]

are we ready to suffer release as outlaw tomorrow EU players?

[buoyant cosmos]

right my mistake

[covert kestrel]

maximums liquid armory funpaloozamallet

[tight kernel]

So before tier we just run same HO build for raid and KIR for m+ right

[mighty pivot]

no way EU servers will be up at 11.00 they are always up much earlier

[tight kernel]

if I read pin correctly

[unkempt dew]

How is outlaw doing damage wise? The same as season 2?

[white marten]

Anyone have a blizz cooldown manager import?

[gaunt phoenix]

any vers gamers

[white marten]

0 dmg, 0 prio, 0 CD, 0 util, 0 cc

[mighty pivot]

1 stat gaming

[wintry solar]

only mast

[unkempt dew]

Seems nice

[buoyant cosmos]

I'm always vers

[gaunt phoenix]

it's projected to be a bit worse than s2, but we will absolutely fuck up like 2 raid bosses

[wintry solar]

and keys?

[mighty pivot]

and blizzard will buff the spec if it's weak

I mean BlizZard 👍 🏄‍♀️ 🏄‍♂️

[wintry solar]

they have a perfect track record of that

[mighty pivot]

this time it will be different popo they have learnt their lesson

[buoyant cosmos]

they're always timely with bug fixes and balance fixes for outlaw.

[sharp hinge]

how do they nerf BF but its a net positive?

[white marten]

A+ tier surely

[wintry solar]

they didint. its impossible for people to learn foresight. Or so ive heard

rip myt spelling. Got so many snacks for patch day

[mighty pivot]

they should keep trading 5% aura for -5% BF and not stop until ST is good

[sharp hinge]

??

st is already good

[vivid vessel]

he doesnt know

[mighty pivot]

[sharp hinge]

i dont

[white marten]

Rough

[sharp hinge]

what happened...

[vivid vessel]

bro wasnt made aware

[white marten]

He literally doesn’t know

Lmfao

[mighty pivot]

ignorance truly is bliss

[vivid vessel]

lmao he is cluclu

[white marten]

And delulu

[sharp hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/scottydoesntknow-eurotrip-scotty-matt-damon-gif-5415128

[covert kestrel]

imagine not knowing

[sharp hinge]

did Zac cook too much and got us nerfed

[mighty pivot]

[white marten]

Its literally day 1 and he still doesn’t know 🤣

[vivid vessel]

bro isnt a knower

[sharp hinge]

im a shower, not a knower

[mighty pivot]

do you think it's better or worse if you know in advance?

[white marten]

We’re effectively in 11.2 and he’s clueless

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-shower-meme-funny-gif-18223873686120251673

[sharp hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-2-im-a-grower-not-a-shower-grower-deadpool-wade-wilson-gif-812112718181105517

[vivid vessel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1071623449056915458/1204479291010850856/1089685999552036936.gif

[sharp hinge]

EU people thinking shower means taking a bath

[buoyant cosmos]

are they dumb?

[vivid vessel]

wht

[sharp hinge]

shower, meaning to show

[vivid vessel]

are eu people known for taking baths instead of showers

[mighty pivot]

taking a bath requires a bathtub

[wintry solar]

not a fan of how smoothly I logged in

something isnt right

[sharp hinge]

yes, and eating beans, tuna, cheese, and potatos for breakfast

[jolly geyser]

baths is just sitting in your own filth

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/somethings-fucky-hmm-looking-around-i-smell-bs-trailer-park-boys-gif-17153625

[wintry solar]

fr

[vivid vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255110288081162311/1374365469884289034/KillingSpreeDawnbreaker.gif

[mighty pivot]

never forgetti

[sharp hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/sidney-sweeney-bath-dirty-little-boy-dirty-boy-you-dirty-boy-gif-5027563761264367208

[buoyant cosmos]

pro tip is to shower quickly then sit in the tub as it fills up and stare at the wall.

[covert kestrel]

pro tip is to bring a plastic chair into the shower and just let it rain on you for 2 hrs

[jolly geyser]

wouldnt mind sweeney in my bath

[buoyant cosmos]

she

s got good jeans

[sharp hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/sydney-sweeney-hot-ones-good-that's-good-yeah-that's-good-gif-8381487379854607478

[buoyant cosmos]

don't forget the beers

[jolly geyser]

waste of water

[covert kestrel]

fuck water

water exists to sustain me

[sharp hinge]

asmon is proof we dont need water to exist

[mighty pivot]

buy it dinner first

[buoyant cosmos]

he looks like he lives in nazmir

[sharp hinge]

i absolutely hated nazmir

esp without flying

worse zone that the maw

[mighty pivot]

no way

[sharp hinge]

the maw atleast was mostly flat

[buoyant cosmos]

I didn't play bfa until end of S3, so thankfully I could fly.

[quaint mauve]

i dont like new KS

[mighty pivot]

no refunds

[glass mortar]

its ok

[buoyant cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/well-that's-too-damn-bad-holes-too-bad-oh-well-suck-it-up-gif-14703423262202948839

[glass mortar]

you can just play fatebou-

oh nvm

glhf

[jolly geyser]

play sub

[sharp hinge]

id play sin before playing sub tbh

i bet half the people here switch to sin anyway

[quaint mauve]

quest armor looks better than our tier lul

[jolly geyser]

I dont have daggers so no

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-disappointed-disgusting-disgusted-looking-gif-6561690286467128067

[mighty pivot]

sub is 5 times more fun than assa

[sharp hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusted-disappointed-ew-look-away-stop-gif-15615092

[fathom bramble]

I'm always locking in outlaw

[jolly geyser]

also respeccing costs gold,I wanna stay above 8mill

[fathom bramble]

if it's actually too bad then you just read the sub/sin apl once

[buoyant cosmos]

I like sub but don't like danse

[fathom bramble]

and play it for free

[mighty pivot]

ye that's a bit of an issue in that case

[buoyant cosmos]

yeah....

[scarlet drum]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[upper hawk]

this sub has resigned itself to its fate. assa still has hope

[desert tendon]

@glass mortar

you better show me a max lvl brann 1st day btw

or else 😠

[glass mortar]

ok 🥰

[desert tendon]

Else i ll tell liz and she ll punish you

[glass mortar]

@gaunt phoenix do we have a guestimate of what ilvl weapon mh to replace capo

apparently u can buy and upgrade a weapon to 690 off the visions vendors right now

appears they did an oopsie

[strong saffron]

he said hc offhand

and champion for normal capo

[desert tendon]

sounds like a great way to get banned weran

[glass mortar]

thats an offhand

[strong saffron]

ah ur using MH no idea

probs the same

[gaunt phoenix]

move old capo to offhand

[glass mortar]

ye

so itll beat 684 mythic thumb

[covert kestrel]

is brann up to 90?

[glass mortar]

does capo oh beat a 678 cudgel tho

🤔

[strong saffron]

odds they ban people doing this

pretty low probs

[glass mortar]

guess i'll need to sim

zero

i mean the items are unique named to visions right

they will just fix the item ilvl probably

at some point maybe

[desert tendon]

how am i supposed to know i quitted and i dont follow anything

[strong saffron]

ye but we can't even use the vision shit in s3 right

[glass mortar]

and not give u ur crests back

[desert tendon]

just here to shitalk on zac

[glass mortar]

well wdym its still available u can still run them

u didnt hear it from me

yea i dont believe any of it reset

[strong saffron]

good game design

[glass mortar]

its all s2 content

they just did an oopsie

[desert tendon]

reported weran

[glass mortar]

im sure itll get fixed

[strong saffron]

go do it weran

and we can see if u get banned

[desert tendon]

idk for what, but i ll report u in cane

[glass mortar]

its not a hard fix i think its not like visions gave u loot from the normal loot table

its all visions specific items so they can probably just eliminate the ilvl

[covert kestrel]

oh no i never did 5 mask i cant exploit 😠

[strong saffron]

same

[quaint mauve]

xal atath bad ash

[tulip pulsar]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[lofty pike]

And, did we get an unnoted buff?^^

[glass mortar]

not unless u have some hidden datamining to show us

[quaint wharf]

yo i been away for a little, is that “new” belt worth getting

[proven ocean]

@glass mortar

duide

max might be a good RL but his RWF takes are overcooked as cow no cappi

[glass mortar]

whatd he say

[proven ocean]

he says like how is tindral hard because it was unkillable most of the time because it was giga nerfed overtime, and it was only killable for a small fraction of the time it lived, then he says he doesnt know whats harder tindral or fyrakk

basically

he says

post nerf boss = how to judge a boss

[late swallow]

he says like how is tindral hard because it was unkillable most of the time because it was giga nerfed overtime, and it was only killable for a small fraction of the time it lived, then he says he doesnt know whats harder tindral or fyrakk

[proven ocean]

so if i use his ideology raszageth died in 1 pull because it died post nerf when it was killable

[late swallow]

[proven ocean]

easiest boss in history confirmed???

cooked max

no cappi

[glass mortar]

i dont really understand what ur saying

[proven ocean]

?? mayeb cuz ur not a raider

hes saying

killable boss = judge how hard it is

[glass mortar]

no because what u wrote is literally barely comprehensible to me try to reframe it

[proven ocean]

unkillable u cant say how hard it is even if u had 500 pulls

[glass mortar]

oh

sure i get that

[proven ocean]

and he brought up uunat as an example which is really cooked

becase uunat was mechanically extremely difficult

[glass mortar]

i probably agree with him then

[proven ocean]

not just "overtuned"

ur cooked if u have no idea what uunat does

[glass mortar]

if what hes saying is its hard or impossible to compare bosses that are "mathetmatically impossible" to bosses that arent i get that

[craggy barn]

where is my catgun badge

gdi

[proven ocean]

nah hes saying 500 pulls into the boss = practice irrelevant

hes not taking that into account

rly cooked take ngl

your just agreeing with him to disagree as usual

nothing new weran

[glass mortar]

like what does 500 pulls matter if u get a perfect pull and the boss cant die, how do u compare that to a boss u kill in 300 pulls but was always possible

i literally am not but ok

im sure you understand RWF shit more then max ross

dw

[proven ocean]

so ur saying raszageth died in 1 pull

thats what hes saying

[glass mortar]

i cant see what he says and i certainly didnt say that

[proven ocean]

u didnt even hear what he said

[glass mortar]

but im sorry is he saying all bosses that got nerfed mid prog r like this or that he thought raz was mathematically impossible?

[proven ocean]

i said it like 2 times already

practice pulls = dont matter

but thats giga stupid

they matter alot

[glass mortar]

can u just link me where in his stream he said this so i can see what he said cause what ur saying doesnt make sense

[proven ocean]

everyone knew it wasn't mathematically impossible

thats why NA bois got pissed off back then

[glass mortar]

pissed off what that they nerfed it?

[proven ocean]

well weran u can just open up his vods on youtube im not going there

[glass mortar]

ok can u tell me what time he said it in the stream

[proven ocean]

because echo killed it post nerf

[glass mortar]

his streams r long

[proven ocean]

literally before i msged u by 2 mins

wtf weran

[glass mortar]

....

[proven ocean]

ngl as much as i'll never go to the RWF scene

he yaps mindlessly sometimes for content

[glass mortar]

can i look up EST timestamps in vods? i mean what point in his stream ross like, how many hours has he been streaming

[proven ocean]

im 100% sure pull counts matter alot, tindral was hard but sure pulls covered a big part of it

[glass mortar]

how am i supposed to find it in his vod

[proven ocean]

and fyrakk was giga hard too but

raszageth 1 pull is crazy

easiest boss in history cuz nerf = kill all practice beforehand when it was impossible was irrelevant

thats what he's saying

[sharp hinge]

who remembers the 20 min sylv fights

[proven ocean]

everyone

[sharp hinge]

that shit was ass

[glass mortar]

i feel like ur probably just misconrstruing his meaning and what he means is how do u account for how much easier a nerf made a boss? like if u pulled tindral 500 times then killed it 1 pull after a nerf was it a 501 pull boss in difficulty?

id say no, it was probably a much lower pull boss in difficulty post nerf, and a much higher one pre nerf

[proven ocean]

well tindral still took that many pulls for everyone

top 3, top 10, top 20, top 50, top 100 guilds

and so on

list goes on forever

[glass mortar]

sure i just meant the general idea

[proven ocean]

hes just yapping on the tindral take

[sharp hinge]

but at the same time, if you kill the last boss and get CE the last week of the season after many nerfs. doesnt mean its necessarily hard.

[proven ocean]

his tindral take is giga cooked

ngl

like

[sharp hinge]

more like a skill issue

[proven ocean]

most cooked shit i've heard in a long time

even more cooked than the most cooked thing i say too

[bright crane]

Sup short bus riders

[desert tendon]

What zero

Who cooked what

[proven ocean]

max

cooked tindral take

[desert tendon]

Hé s cooked