its from seeds
#outlaw
frail veldt
proven ocean
didnt know that
frail veldt
sec leme find a video explaining it
vivid vessel
I think whole grain bread is litteraly only for people that wanna act as superior eating healty stuffs
frail veldt
they label protein by weight
proven ocean
i understand all of it
frail veldt
not by digestibility
proven ocean
ig u just eat it for flavors then
frail veldt
idk if its like this where you are but you can tell if its inefficient by looking at the daily value %
frail veldt
so daily value for protein is based on 50g a day
so if it says 50% daily value
bu tit says 40g protein on it
frail veldt
its actually 15g of undegistible
proven ocean
ye
frail veldt
and only 25g of digestible
proven ocean
wait spoo
like
if its 50% scam
that means
u get 50% of empty calories?
or no?
proven ocean
so like its not effecient
to eat
thats what u mean
for the calories ur spending
on ur body
or wemo
?
frail veldt
frail veldt
this says 7g
proven ocean
no wayt
frail veldt
but its 7% of daily
proven ocean
7% LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
frail veldt
so its actually 7% of 50g
proven ocean
so its like
frail veldt
which is 3.5
proven ocean
ye i know i just mean like realisdtically
proven ocean
thats kinda crazy
proven ocean
ye i see
frail veldt
but see on this yogurt
18g protein
36% daily value
which means 18g of absorbed protein
proven ocean
oh yea
that looks like alot more
4x the amount
even
it has some added sugar tho
kinda bad or
frail veldt
well yeah in this case im just emphasizing that its 100% abosrbed
proven ocean
lots of sugar
frail veldt
its not a lot tbh
proven ocean
but thats fine prob if u do cardio
frail veldt
its vanilla yogurt
proven ocean
u just giga burn alot of it
fossil charm
@vivid vessel may i ask why you use Dispatch after your bte when you are in subterfuge windows? ty
frail veldt
its 120calories for 18g
proven ocean
so it barely matters
frail veldt
which is very efficient
I like to look at foods for if theyre above a certain ratio of calories to protein
proven ocean
its 120calories for 18g
ye true
median sequoia
I wanna say some seeds and nuts have portions of them that aren't digestible, and just end up as "roughage" (which is why folks with intestinal issues aren't supposed to eat them).
Don't quote me, though.
frail veldt
haha
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> may i ask why you use Dispatch after your bte when you ar...
i dont its crackshot talent
frail veldt
oh nice
fossil charm
i dont its crackshot talent
vivid vessel
i removed that dispatc hfrom my gcd tracker now
median sequoia
Seriously though, just learnt a ton about protein intake, so thanks for that.
vivid vessel
maybe i forgot on ptr idk
fossil charm
sorry
vivid vessel
bue ye
frail veldt
thats sick
frail veldt
yeah healthy fats
for sure
love me some guac
im slightly allergic to avocado but if its in guac with some citrus acidity added to it im good
plain avocado fucks my stomach up and makes my mouth itchy lol
median sequoia
Wonder if this acidity helps break up the part you're allergic to?
proven ocean
hes a physicist
median sequoia
Me neither, too much math.
frail veldt
LOL
"get to" more like "have to"
only reason we go there is cuz we fucked it up too badly here
proven ocean
proven ocean
i think its way too hard to be done in a century
honestly
i dont mean this in a bad way but i think wars is what invents these weird things
where u have to like
invent something crazy like leave the planet
valid kindle
unrelated to your point but peanut butter where there's more ingredients besides "peanuts" smh
vast frost
if u get to move there its gonna be as some kinda super slave tbh
frail veldt
invent something crazy like leave the planet
yeah for sure
frail veldt
i would love to live on mars if i had normal internet
LOL
vivid vessel
litteraly
if i had normal earth fiber
i wouldnt hesitate living on mars
i dont go out anywya
dawn talon
actually living on mars has got to be at least a century in the future
175-225 years if i had to guess
frail veldt
well as soon as we get there
someone will be "living there"
cuz you arent coming back
its gona be one way trips for a long time
median sequoia
If it could be like The Expanse, then I'd be good with it.
proven ocean
daring oxide
The expanse is fucking amazing
frail veldt
send a pic when you get there I wana see what its like there
daring oxide
I wish they continued the series
proven ocean
nortmal tacos
frail veldt
The expanse is fucking amazing
so good
proven ocean
send a pic when you get there I wana see what its like there
okok first time ordering 'em i hope they dont come messed up
frail veldt
If it could be like The Expanse, then I'd be good with it.
lol bro the expanse had rampant class disparity
thats like worst case scenario
its literally a dystopia
daring oxide
Compared to earth and spacers
frail veldt
living on earth was where the rich were
proven ocean
i can tell you its amazing there
frail veldt
middle class was like mars
proven ocean
no cappi
median sequoia
I guess I meant more, in terms of infrastructure
frail veldt
and soldiers lol
proven ocean
wemo
daring oxide
i can tell you its amazing there
That’s true you technically already live in a mars like environment
proven ocean
frail veldt
looks painful
ripe ibex
!fuu
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Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
frail veldt
LOL
lime lake
stray star
frail veldt
sup bro
ripe ibex
does anyone have race sim string
proven ocean
idk
ripe ibex
the ones in the fuu sheet are bricked
proven ocean
the ones in the fuu sheet are bricked
@sacred rune
desert tendon
i m fuu
proven ocean
he wants race sim thingy
proven ocean
hi fuunsi
desert tendon
fuu is the one doing sims race but also the one playing undead rogue
sacred rune
<@194804407706189824>
this one should work
proven ocean
this one should work
@ripe ibex
ripe ibex
this one should work
ty goat
desert tendon
he s vibing
sacred rune
if it throws a error let me know, i think thats the latest version
simc did change some race_names
thats why
wintry solar
fuu is the one doing sims race but also the one playing undead rogue
Fuu plays undead rogue?
desert tendon
i m pretty sure he does
wintry solar
That's good enough for me to believe it
desert tendon
it s pretty crazy to me that undead is one of the worst rogue race 
wintry solar
When I think of horde rogues I think of undead rogues ganking low levels in stv 20 years ago
desert tendon
YEP
wintry solar
Yeah
Though I mean culturally
If that makes sense
Vulp has a good stealth animation
desert tendon
i like vulp all classes
but they have such a low representation
i sometimes forget they exists until Llmch show us some footage
covert kestrel
I wish they continued the series
Did you read the books
proven ocean
i sometimes forget they exists until Llmch show us some footage
idk where llmch disappeared to
desert tendon
wait
proven ocean
haven't seen him in a while
proven ocean
idk i did see him raid in liberation mythic
gaunt phoenix
mitch the goat
proven ocean
on twitch
proven ocean
sensi no cappi tho
wintry solar
Haven't seen that name in ages
proven ocean
no wow is kinda chill no cappi
desert tendon
it s great right
wintry solar
Yall been playing other stuff?
desert tendon
u can come here and randomely @ zac and say random stuff to annoy him
and since you dont care about it, you dont read his answers
i quitted wow now 2 month ago
proven ocean
i just login ptr every now and then
play abit then back to osrs
then few irl
brb tacos are here
wintry solar
I've been playing a lot of Killing Floor 3
And will get KSM on Outlaw and go back to KF3
desert tendon
i did grind some valorant, played some game with friends, random stuff arround
got invited to the closed beta of anno 117 but nda i cant talk!
and i m certainely waiting to put all my life in mgs3 remake later this month
wintry solar
I may get the elite set on my dk idk. Sets are pretty boring next season.
wintry solar
I love it
vestal notch
dont forget to shoot at the bell 😄
wintry solar
There's a new glitch?
wintry solar
Wait this sounds familiar
desert tendon
wintry solar
Something to do with hyrule?
desert tendon
nononono
first of all, you can remap buttons, so basically makes some glitch like superswim way easier and faster
wintry solar
Ohhhhh this is something else
wintry solar
I need that in Twilight Princess
desert tendon
no tingle market tho
wintry solar
He creeps me out anyway
This is crazy
WW speed running is so much more accessible
snow stratus
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
wintry solar
covert kestrel
Wait are we going back to elu on tuesday
spark radish
So, as a Pug-DPS-Player around 3,5k who is happy with big Overall DMG do I stay on outlaw or time to go sin? I'm afraid of the energy-starvation moments which always feel so.... uh.... or is FDK still gutting us?
covert kestrel
So, as a Pug-DPS-Player around 3,5k who is happy with big Overall DMG do I stay ...
Assa is looking insane, but outlaw is still looking pretty good. At those levels I think it's a "what do you enjoy more/play better" angle
spark radish
Did the Energy-Starvation Aspect change a bit compared to S2?
gaunt phoenix
We still play KIR 1FTH which does have rather wide rng
proven ocean
@wemo
round acorn
new rogue here, should you always try to go in stealth to use ambush for cp or only when you adrenaline rush
frail veldt
wut happen
proven ocean
How do they mess up that hard
No like
Look
U know how
Tacos 🌮
Look like this
wintry solar
Tortillas?
twilit rivet
The tortilla
proven ocean
That cover is plastic
proven ocean
Yes
frail veldt
im confused
proven ocean
The tortilla is plastic
proven ocean
wintry solar
No way
frail veldt
thats so scuffed
proven ocean
frail veldt
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
wintry solar
LMAOOOOOO
proven ocean
I got a refund tho
twilit rivet
Lmao
frail veldt
RIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
proven ocean
frail veldt
thats good
proven ocean
Funniest shit ever
wintry solar
I'm sending that to everyone I know
wintry solar
You gotta call them
frail veldt
thats fucked up
proven ocean
I got a refund so all good
wintry solar
So now you put it in a bowl and eat it like that?
proven ocean
Normal bread
wise osprey
what a lovely gluten free option plastic replacement
proven ocean
lost slate
@round acorn
gaunt phoenix
it sounds like they are talking about stealth but they really mean to ask about vanish
round acorn
yea vanish for hidden op
gaunt phoenix
you stealth every time you leave combat
but you do only vanish when adrenaline rush is active
you try to vanish at high cps into between the eyes
but sometimes, if adrenaline rush is about to expire immediately, you have to vanish at low cps to keep it active
round acorn
you stealth every time you leave combat
but you do only vanish when adrenaline ...
okay and I noticed you have ambush for a min when you vanish, do you just keep spamming ambush?
polar roost
A
gaunt phoenix
you build cps with ambush, and then you spend cps on Between the Eyes
because of the Crackshot talent, Between the Eyes has no cooldown in stealth windows
which is very strong
swift kite
is ambush worth it without the talent?
gaunt phoenix
no, the KIR build does not use ambush at all
round acorn
you build cps with ambush, and then you spend cps on Between the Eyes
because o...
i am lvl 61 so I am sure im missing stuff, but even when I am full on cp I still have ambush as if I am still stealthed
lost slate
those are procs
round acorn
is there to get out of it when you are done with it cp wise or do you just spam until you are done
gaunt phoenix
Put between the eyes on your stealth bar
you can press anything during stealth
it just lets you also press ambush when you need to build cps
round acorn
Put between the eyes on your stealth bar
oh okay, should I just put between the eyes? on the stealth or should I also do other skills other spenders and finishers as well
wintry solar
Yeah basically make your in and out of stealth bar the same
gaunt phoenix
you should just copy your main bar
the hidden opportunity build mostly presses ambush/between the eyes
but, you need to be able to press adrenaline rush, ghostly strike, blade flurry, roll the bones, etc.
basically just have everything keybound so you are able to press anything whether you are in stealth or not
gaunt phoenix
not really, it is automatically casted by dispatch
sometimes you use it between pulls, just cause you can
a little more cooldown reduction, as spending combo points lowers our cooldowns
gaunt phoenix
quaint tiger
does HO SC build send all finishers at 5+ cp instead of 6+? coulda sworn i saw someone share that rule, but can't see it anywhere in the faq now.
round acorn
oh okay an i dont have ghostly yet, so could I use Pistol shot and sinister as builders when not in stealth or just mainly sinister
proven ocean
@frail veldt ngl the tacos were good
the bread i used was a lil old but it was alright
i think it'll be giga good if it actually had tortillas 
gaunt phoenix
does HO SC build send all finishers at 5+ cp instead of 6+? coulda sworn i saw s...
it's 6cps but 5cps if subterfuge/audacity/opp is active
so basically dont ambush at 5cp
quaint tiger
dang. i think i must have seen some post about sending it at 5+ cp when it was still being cooked, but never checked again after. been playing it wrong all this while it seems
gaunt phoenix
Months ago I did put 5cps at all times but it was wrong
it's not a big deal though
rip 0.3% dps
quaint tiger
haha okay that's smaller than i feared
gaunt phoenix
oh okay an i dont have ghostly yet, so could I use Pistol shot and sinister as b...
do you have the audacity talent?
audacity makes pistol shot proc ambush
round acorn
yes
proven ocean
haha okay that's smaller than i feared
it is small ye, issue is there are 100 minmaxes that are 0.1 0.2%
etc
gaunt phoenix
so you ambush if available, otherwise use pistol shot proc if available, otherwise sinister strike
frail veldt
Months ago I did put 5cps at all times but it was wrong
I mean
gaunt phoenix
Well sinister strike turns into ambush with audacity
gaunt phoenix
sure
frail veldt
and its so much easier to follow
quaint tiger
are the rotation/rules getting easier or harder next tier?
round acorn
thank you for the answers, I thought i was going to do feral but its too complicated for me
frail veldt
are the rotation/rules getting easier or harder next tier?
the same
frail veldt
thank you for the answers, I thought i was going to do feral but its too complic...
HO is probably easier than feral
copper radish
so has some1 worked out a fatebound key build yet
frail veldt
it would be the same as s1
vivid vessel
no
frail veldt
but with KS
proven ocean
HO is probably easier than feral
dont think feral is easy ye
HO is also not easy imo
frail veldt
yeah it has some wonky snapshot bullshit
proven ocean
like
HO was free in s1 DF
but
like
its not free nowadays
its easier sure but
still harder than most specs in the game
proven ocean
idk how hard feral is
but i heard it has some difficulty
but idk
1 gcd combopoints is just easy imo
nothing can be harder than sin's complexity in m+ imo
loud garden
zeross sin guide when
jolly geyser
Nuanced?
loud garden
desert tendon
Zeross
[OSRS]
— 20:35
na no more wow
just gonna login every now and then
vast frost
every now and then = once every 3 to 4 hours
stiff vector
nothing can be harder than sin's complexity in m+ imo
this is a bit of cope even from you zeross, its more of just a chore to maintain bleeds but its not super complex. Just a lot of little min-max's you can do
wintry solar
There's that horror mode they're working on that I'm excited to try. I wonder when we'll hear more about it.
proven ocean
this is a bit of cope even from you zeross, its more of just a chore to maintain...
alot of minmaxes that are extremely hard
vast frost
This patch is my actually playing the game properly again after taking a long break actually
proven ocean
that i dont really see people being able to do them
because of how niche and specific they are
wintry solar
This patch is my actually playing the game properly again after taking a long br...
The expansion already peaked for me personally. Smooth sailing from here out.
proven ocean
idk i find sin in m+ in specific comparable to outlaw's difficulty even
its really not easy as simple as it looks
stiff vector
I mean so do I, but thats mostly ecause I have way more time spent on outlaw than sin
vast frost
I'll play some outlaw is some kind soul gets a weapon drop they don't need 
proven ocean
sure u may think im coping but alot of ppl just dont know what to do at certain situations
because alot of things are going on to keep track of
wintry solar
Maybe I'll wait until .5 and get my free 4pc and catchup gear >.>
round acorn
yeah it has some wonky snapshot bullshit
yea that snapshot I do not like ngl
stiff vector
I think a lot of it is just getting in reps on sin in different kidns of situations and pulls in high keys, kind of similar to outlaw
odd bison
!wa
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Utilities:
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Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
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RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
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proven ocean
outlaw is scripted finish at x and nothing really to maintain
its just giga fast
sin in comparison is hard to maintain
you'd be surprised on how difficult it is to actually maintain ur bleeds
and im not talking about +15-17 keys where things die fast
+21s etc
where mobs live forever
when do i refresh CT? rupture? do i garrote or not? shiv is worth using or not?
while not missing a single gcd
you can overcap on bleed durations easily and lose a shit ton of dps
stiff vector
I mean you have a decent amount of stuff to keep track of on outlaw, and ofc the mechanical difficulty of the APM+keeping uptime/greeding uptime as much a s you can while kicking/stopping stuff
proven ocean
vanish usage is also crucial knowing if u need to use it or not
do i vanish so that i wont have to rupture later on when kingsbane is up?
those kind of questions always come up on every pull
i think its more complicated than u think firsthand
where as sub for example is just giga scripted always do the same shit
stiff vector
yeah I know, but like I said those are just things you have to learn from getting in reps on the spec in specific situations in high keys
no1 can tell you exactly what to do
proven ocean
its not always the same on evrey pull
thats why its hard imo
ye
i use my brain all the time when im playing sin
stiff vector
I like playing the bleed build on PTR way more than other iterations of assa tbh
proven ocean
atleast when i was pushing seriously i never had a scripted opener
except for
the trio boss in ToP
im pretty sure i have a rly big cook there
i dont remember how much dps i did but it was incredibly high
outlaw level almost
vast frost
Btw have they changed the new KS targeting?
stiff vector
like usually I dont rly like playing assa, but I find the bleed build pretty fun tbh
proven ocean
u have not press a single rupture inside any of ur kingbanes+DM and shivs while there are 3 bosses up
and that dmg scales incredibly high
almost like
1-2m more
dps
and usually u do 5m dps on that boss
but if u play it really well u can pull off 7m
outlaw can pull off way more but it needs rng where as sin requires pure skill
u can rng crits and such but playing it well is important aswell
atleast in my grp i had to shiv the bloodhorn all the time so that was kinda off and i couldn't pull off a real number on that boss
stiff vector
thats omega despair lol
proven ocean
i think only few times i could in -2 or -1 keys
hallow crow
someone with wa for switch weapon?
proven ocean
but like
if u ask me
is sin or outalw harder in M+
idk whats harder
they're both at the extreme level of difficulty imo
not to mention sin has to actually live too
because its giga squishy
so that makes it way harder to play in high keys
i think the opinion of sin being easy is extremely popular
and highly underestimated
vast frost
because its giga squishy
non-high key doer, is it rly that bad?
proven ocean
no
lofty sand
Outlaw harder
proven ocean
its just a high key thing
proven ocean
ye its that bad
vast frost
between low keys and high
proven ocean
i paid like idk
15m gold
for avoidance pieces this season
just to lower that gap
vast frost
r u running cheat or elu?
vast frost
damn
proven ocean
cant live without it
proven ocean
u die even with elusiveness
i had to run 30% vers in some dungeons until we figured out the perfect cd timings to actually live them like swampface +20 super early on
proven ocean
we killed it world first i think on +20 idk if anyone killed it at the time too but we depleted on last boss with like 6 sec left (world first run)
hardest boss to live for sin ngl
you die through feint
in the aoe phase
so u need to align feint + a big healing cd
or feint + evasion
or feint + crimson vial + healing pot
or cloak
proven ocean
so u need to align feint + a big healing cd
early on it was giga tight with this one but it was livable
with like 5% hp
cuz our ilvls werent really high
vast frost
With Elu and bait n switch, I find sin's defensive kit really enjoyable to think about
shame you apprently just explode anyways
proven ocean
its fine in raid thats why they wont care
raid is all that matters when it comes to tuning
lofty sand
Planning out how to live with assa, definetly harder, but optimized dmg, or even Just giving it to a New player to play it properly, outlaw harder
proven ocean
and sin is giga easy to play in raid
just 1 target to maintain and a simple ass rotation
proven ocean
Planning out how to live with assa, definetly harder, but optimized dmg, or even...
ye early on outlaw is way harder for sure
its not even close
sin only gets giga hard when ur playing both very very well
outlaw is prob still harder for sure tho
sin is easily top 5 hardest specs in the game in m+ that is
lofty sand
Also yeah in raid to maximize uptime you need to plan it out
vast frost
i do rly enjoy how chill sin is in raid
maybe only person in wow that likes being the mechanics doer
tribal surge
Im outlaw main and didnt even try assa, is it hard to learn assa up to +12 keys?
sudden fulcrum
no
proven ocean
assa is super easy to learn
proven ocean
hard to master
sudden fulcrum
it's less complicated than outlaw IMO
lofty sand
Yeah in the top top content they are comparable in difficultiness
vast frost
baseline M+ sin is very chill also
lofty sand
Yeah
tribal surge
Alright, I’d like to learn it but I’m afraid I just can’t haha
proven ocean
on sub u just always press the same exact buttons every key u do
no matter what
legit nothing changes
scripted as cow
sub's difficulty is that u need to learn every single minmax
it has ALOT of minmaxes
knowing how to play sub is a hard thing because u just nneed knowledge
vast frost
i like sub but sometimes it does just kinda feel like im pressing 5 buttons to match a normal spec's 2 buttons
proven ocean
i know that most ppl aren't a fan of reading so i'll prob add sub to top 3 hard to learn specs
but easy to play that is
proven ocean
i like sub but sometimes it does just kinda feel like im pressing 5 buttons to m...
i think sub isn't that hard
tribal surge
I just don’t like sub play style
proven ocean
it has as low buttons as any spec honestly
vast frost
its not the difficulty its just feels bloated but at the same time I can't really imagine removing any individual button
tribal surge
Do any of the 3 specs look A tier for m+/raid
vast frost
it has as low buttons as any spec honestly
idr know exactly waht other classes be doing I guess, the only things I ever really touch other than rogue are Affliction and Windwalker
lofty sand
Im Just sad that outlaw is not a "raid" spec. Though i play it anyway. Played sub last tier but too scripted. I got too used to outlaw
vast frost
It seems good in some of the fights coming up this tier
lofty sand
i think sub isn't that hard
Easier to min max harder to get into
proven ocean
sub is like
giga easy to play once u get it
but if u dont know whats going on its big gg
ur gonna do tank dps
like
if i teach 1 person
sin, sub, outlaw
for like
5 mins each
he will likely do more dps on sin+outlaw
than sub
by like
atleast 30%
whenever i stop playing like
for
1-2 seasons
then play sub
i do like
lofty sand
Idk about outlaw, outlaw is hard bcs even if u know what to do keeping up with apm is hard
proven ocean
-50% dps of what im supposed to
vast frost
not to be toxic to my main spec but I think you could teach someone to play sin in like 1 minute if you didn't have kb in the build
proven ocean
press ambush, bleed around and shiv once u spread bleeds
u dont even have to DM on live
u just save DM for bosses imo
things die too fast
unless if they live then u just send DM np
random stirrup
Raid: Outlaw > Sub > Sin
M+: Outlaw >= Sin >> Sub
vast frost
outlaw in lower keys probably more chill too since KS won't make u explode
no matter when u press it
proven ocean
Raid: Outlaw > Sub > Sin
M+: Outlaw >= Sin >> Sub
for me sub is easier than sin
by alot
in raid
even tho
sin is easy
random stirrup
Sub just takes a bit more planning
proven ocean
maybe ye
west ridge
i mean both are easy
proven ocean
in some add phases sure
random stirrup
mechanically they are similar
west ridge
outlaw is the hardish spec
proven ocean
depends on the dungeon honestly some dungeons are actually hard to play for sin
harder than s3 DF outlaw even
random stirrup
ye
lofty sand
Raid: Outlaw > Sub > Sin
M+: Outlaw >= Sin >> Sub
Absolotely true
west ridge
current outlaw harder than s3 outlaw imo
lofty sand
At least imo
random stirrup
current outlaw harder than s3 outlaw imo
also true
proven ocean
current outlaw harder than s3 outlaw imo
idk if thats true
maybe post ER bug sure
but
pre Er bug outlaw was way harder for sure
proven ocean
cuz like
even zac couldn't er bug that well
it was impossible to play perfectly because of how hard it was
u could but on ur absolute best day
i think the only day where i actually played perfect outlaw is when i gapped gingi
idk whats up with that day but i was totally feeling it
never missed a single ER bug opportunity on all pulls
current outlaw is comparable to ER bug +s3 DF outlaw
i think that combo was disgustingly hard
proven ocean
current er bug barely matters unfortunately
wish it was 100%
would've made it way more interesting
proven ocean
yea fatebound is night and day difference
0 things going on
trickster has fatebound and s3 DF had ER
random stirrup
1fth trickster 
west ridge
not everyting outlaw related needs to be zoomer press million buttons tweve things going on at the same time
proven ocean
wait
why did i say trickster has fatebound
i mean
outlaw has trickster now
and in DF we had ER
ER + er bug was something cool, lots of minmaxes
it was also really interesting
and not boring
lofty sand
west ridge
im glad er bug is gone though
having to get carpal tunnel before every key
no thanks
worldly shale
not everyting outlaw related needs to be zoomer press million buttons tweve thin...
thats exacly what outlaw is
ZOOOOMIEE
proven ocean
west ridge
ye within the key while im playing
frail veldt
yea that snapshot I do not like ngl
same
west ridge
not me spamming slice for cdr
proven ocean
how are yall feeling ptr law so far?
Me like
frail veldt
when do i refresh CT? rupture? do i garrote or not? shiv is worth using or not?
thats kinda what I dont like about assa though
its not very explicit what the "correct" decision is
you kinda just have ot play a fuck ton of hours and learn it yourself
proven ocean
Yah
worldly shale
what i expect is we just ks into vanish bte right?
wintry solar
how are yall feeling ptr law so far?
Indifferent as a whole
frail veldt
I dont have time for that
Id rather have very clear explicit rules that are hard but you know when youre doing it right
outlaws feedback loop is so obvious
which makes it a very good spec to progress on imo
its like lifting weights vs playing a sport
like how do you really know youre getting better at the sport
so much going on
the situations are so dynamic
but in weightlifting number go up
go up mean good
ez
proven ocean
its not very explicit what the "correct" decision is
Not even sims know whats correct to press in a real dungeon run
frail veldt
exactly
I hate that rofl
I dont have the hours so I have to play a spec thats very clear cut on what to do correctly
proven ocean
It took me so many hours to figure everything out
frail veldt
and i can just get by on knowing those rules very well
Yeah you were messing with builds for like the entire season
frail veldt
I can see how thats fun but its just not for me
proven ocean
U just start to realize how complex it becomess
Outlaw still harder tho in most situations
frail veldt
assa has high peak complexity but a very low barrier to entry
which low barrier to entry is usually what people refer to as "easy"
proven ocean
Ya
frail veldt
which is why I think assa has the sentiment that it does
sub has a high barrier to entry
but not a very high peak complexity
so people think its hard
proven ocean
Ya
frail veldt
but it really isnt
frail veldt
once you get the hang of it yeah
proven ocean
Ya
frail veldt
but at first its like a LOT going on
your dance windows are so important
and you have to press a lot of buttons very quickly
proven ocean
Just the learning part is difficult
frail veldt
ye
proven ocean
Then once u know everything its like driving a bike
proven ocean
hes a tennis player
wintry solar
His hands are more veiny from all the arguing so I'd say yes
frail veldt
hes a tennis player
lol im not a tennis player
proven ocean
lol im not a tennis player
I know but u look like one
frail veldt
His hands are more veiny from all the arguing so I'd say yes
truuuu
proven ocean
You eat healthy too
frail veldt
I know but u look like one
lil bit I dont have a very big frame
proven ocean
So it adds up
desert tendon
i see
frail veldt
then mountain biking
desert tendon
i see i see
proven ocean
Water bozo?
desert tendon
i see i see i see
frail veldt
then powerlifting, then olympic weightlifting, then climbing, then back to powerlifting
lol
frail veldt
my mom just made me do lots of sports growing up so I just have always done sports ever since
wintry solar
Zeross everytime someone says something (the plot gets lost within 5 minutes)
frail veldt
my brother is more into than I am he does competitive BJJ
desert tendon
frail veldt
Im just a filthy casual
desert tendon
what s bjj
frail veldt
brazilian jiu jitsu
wintry solar
Mfer spittin
desert tendon
i always wanted to do fighting sports
but i ended up playing handball for more than 10 years
frail veldt
same honestly
I hate cardio so ive been wanting to find a sport that makes me do cardio
frail veldt
and since im not in school its like hard to find a sport to do casually
wintry solar
I recently discovered armored mma. I gotta figure out how to get into it.
frail veldt
armored mma is wiiiild
frail veldt
sword and board 1v1
wintry solar
Meet me in durotar irl
frail veldt
HAHA
desert tendon
wtf
i m watching armored mma
what the hell
is that shit
lmao
they go knight they fucking crazy
spinning their axe
desert tendon
i follow UFC because of a friend watching it
he did MMA when he was younger and kinda has a passion with it
so we watchparty it
but AMMA is insane lmao
proven ocean
my mom just made me do lots of sports growing up so I just have always done spor...
Thats cool no cappi
wintry solar
I'm not really a sport person but armored mma captivated me
desert tendon
they have axes
wintry solar
Teah
proven ocean
Teah
frail veldt
Thats cool no cappi
ye I hated it as a kid sometimes but grateful as an adult
desert tendon
i cant wait for armored chess boxing
wdym you hated it
i liked so much doing sports younger
frail veldt
I mean im 15 and I want to play wow but i have to go to practice
like bro
swim practice
year round
2-3 hours
5 days
sometimes morning practice
desert tendon
it was really important to my mother that her kids were doing at least one out of school sport
desert tendon
i had 3 x 2h a week
- a match the weekend
but swimming is different than handball
proven ocean
isnec
desert tendon
team game right
wintry solar
I need to do cardio in a suit of armor
trail cove
I mean im 15 and I want to play wow but i have to go to practice
A healthy gamer is a sportive gamer
frail veldt
gotta keep the gears moving
daring oxide
and since im not in school its like hard to find a sport to do casually
I got a peloton bike and I play ps5 or watch shows while doing rides and classes, makes it so easy to habit stack and do cardio for fun
Been doing it for years now
lofty sand
Men after work and gym i got home at 8 everyday. Very hard to grind like i used to
Mostly I Just stay up and my sleep is fcked
desert tendon
i only do sports from home now, lifting weight, have this fake bike ya know and a treadmill
but i never watch a movie or something whiule doing it
i m focusing on my efforts
only music allowed
lofty sand
It would make that much of a difference kcal burn wise?
wintry solar
Love making music
desert tendon
zac noone cares about wow here