#outlaw
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i only put out S tier questions my guy
I wonder if eu will ban rtb because its a form of gambling
this is an S+ question only discord
wonder if anyone has asked if its fine to play outlaw without taking AR
Literally unplayable goodluck spamming ss for 10 years
Here’s a S+ question
But I'm also quite tired of the "is this good" variety of questions
isnt it crazy someone answered me with one button while ur fanboying 4 no reason
like who cares bro
i went to check and it actually is literally unplayable
@stiff hawk Had a really goated opinion he said we should bring back death from above
i got my answer leave me alone

You care enough to keep replying
Do you think Harley Quinn would be a outlaw main due to her preference of acrobatics and firearms OR a windwalked main since she likes being abused by joke (blizzard)
Being a dick often gets you a lot of unwanted attention
Arms warrior for sure
What did I miss
how was i being a dick in this situation
Interesting
Explain your reasoning
Cartoons with the mallet and other iterations of the harley uses a bat
Swinging that shit around mortal striking
Hm hm
You asked a question, I infered what you were actually asking and answered it, you called me an attention seeker.
Thats how ur being a dick

is outlaw strong rn?
the antichrist fighting satan ! What a day, what a day
Alternatively consider
Btw guys did you see that Max said last night he loves us so much, and flat damage profile is underestimated ❤️❤️
Harley Quinn being a priest
Maybe dont call people attention seekers for trying to help next time 👍
it's been a while since there was a good fight in outlaw chat

Thought you gonna say futa cock
No no no
Yes pls
u werent trying to help xd
Wow I've been saying this for years, now that max has said it I guess its true though
see
Are you legit stupid
he already started !
Hahaha
its so over for us
It's joever for outlaw
Nah man you were just being a dick
Frankly
They're going to make your profile even flatter
Anyways

Honestly a dumb question on my part, I know the answer
Shit i thought it was john dbd
And make it into a sticker
lmao
add it to the list of "Guy is always right"
thats very cute
One day you guys will learn
im always right
real picture of guy
ur so socially inept its crazy
but
Today might be the day, it might be tomorrow, it might be the next tier
you seen it here first
cba

Show how little u care
this guy just keeps winning 
satan is winning what a day ..
"Guys I just can't be assed to respond" - guy who keeps responding
Literally
This also means guy has been right every time about HO 🙏
truth nuke
Mafic os gonna say we’re toxic cause we ganged up on a dude whose being a dick
fingers too small
what if there was a thread acting like an arena for discord fights to happen?
Nah theyre too worried about mage tower not coming back in lemix
my val Q popped sadly
I heard a survey went around
whats crazy is the image he responded to wasn't even about him 
Ok but on a serious note if we had 2 charges of ADR (and we only used it to help prevent adr from dropping or pooling it for later and we’d use it sooner if fights due to end) we could mitigate downtime very easily and therefore our flat damage profile will be truly beautiful, right @cinder relic
Blizzard asking players if they want mop classic to merge with retail
I'd be down for 2 adr but uhuh gotta go
I want LESS ar uptime
Ive said this for 100 years
I should get those cm armors just in case
To bad I didn’t snag a corrupted ashbringer
Well maybe in 12.0 the outlaw rework will rebalance our dps outside of adr to allow this to happen 🙏
if you want less uptime just done use it
And I'll also say it again
DESPITE UPTIME BEING MORE IMPORTANT NOW THAN IN THE PAST
Uptime has ALWAYS been an "issue" for outlaw. In BFA it was considered a dealbreaker for the spec, it was the same in SL, DF pre UHUH
Restless blades is the main culprit
But this isn't a problem to solve, its a feature, not a bug
Dreadblades is returned
I mean Fire is the same
There are a lot of specs that have a lot of issues when it comes to uptime
Now does outlaw have it worse than those? Maybe, idk other specs well enough to confidently assert that
SL adr uptime % felt good
Ok so what if they get rid of restless blades, but they remove all our CDR but make all of our CDs really short? @cinder relic
So we have everything we have now but on demand
That sounds like a shit idea I don't like that
And not tied to cdr
I'm of the belief that it's okay for specs to have weaknesses
I think outlaw needing uptime to do damage is a fine feature
(even if its maybe too much right now)
Its what makes wow unique
Its okay for specs to be weird and different
Its why I would never want them to rework/scrap RTB
i have no problem with damage down because of lower uptime. but the spec feeling like a husk of itself when we dont have high uptime i think is a problem
Even if it is a very obtuse, weird button in the context of the game
Its different, its cool
I wonder if buffing cto would feel nice
They buffed it this tier didnt they
I mean it'd probably feel good
But I think this entire spec has too much of everything rn so

I dunno i checked the recemt changelog and cant tell the difference
Its tripled in subterfuge windows, i would rather just have a flat 30%
its not anymore
@cinder relic do you think they'll nerf outlaw
its always 15%
We dont run loaded dice right?
15
we run loaded in s3
ass prob nerf
Ooo nice

nerf? no. Slept on? Yeah
prob ass nerf + outlaw combo soon unless they dont care about the giga aoe dam
I think rogue in general is v good
st is quite nice too now
I think outlaws damage on the DH boss is actually going to be nuclear bomb level
lmao
yeah
it'll 100% be in rwf
no question in that
i think assa might be crazy there too with bleed build potentially but not sure
idk
outlaw prob will still gap all the potential builds
ye it actually will be there
its giga strong atm on those cleave bosses
jpc isn't there
Do people have any genuine issues with outlaw in s3? I feel like its look pretty dope for m+ i dont imagine anyone bringing it for raids
idk
but last rwf raiders i ve seen on outlaw on ovinax
none of them can play outlaw
was depressing
the method dude
they all suck on outlaw so badly
uggz
some guy no one ever heard about
i think that guy is a outlaw copper

everytier he preps 10 outlaw rogue
a spec that literally no one can play

they wont need it there
thats why it wont be played
the boss so far from what we've seen is byfar the easiest boss
on ptr
you may say its ptr but still it was the easiest
im sure some random ass rogue is gonna argue sub can send all of its 15 sec cd on those 3 mobs before they spread 
💀
then do -50% dps of a real outlaw on ovinax
@desert tendon
time to reroll
wanna join
??
Ya I think so too
Only ass nerf, outlaw needs buff for raid
We need to sim highest to compensate for our weaknesses in this tier
i hate this movie so much
erm...
I mean out of all classes 😂
the greed they talk about in the bible
hm
you just yapped for 1h
in sub channel
how fatebound sims were lie
cause its fatebound
which talent builds are we gonna use on s3? I'm willing to reroll back in outlaw because it seems good to play
killing spree seems like a must regardless of what we're gonna do
Fatebound is a bit of a greedy spec if you think about it, hoarding coins and all…
i tried leveling a feral druid,. the spec is so slow
Hello guys, I just hit 80 and am brand new to outlaw rogue. I really enjoyed it while leveling, but I swapped to the recommended single target raid build on Wowhead and it drops the entire energy line of talents leading down to thistle tea. I'm now really starved on energy and can barely cast 60% of the time. I'm wondering if I just did something wrong or if this build is supposed to suck this badly? I'm 624 ilvl
you have a special talent for keeping expectations realistic
Bit rude but okay
its your wording

So how can I stop energy starving myself then?
how much unbuffed haste you have?
5846, 20% haste
what
what is your adrenaline rush uptime?
there has to be error in that statement
the recommended builds probably assume you have the tier set
If you have tier and haste then it's rotation stuff
you probably could have worded this better

Someone new asking questions should not be instantly met with a terse response saying they suck
How do I check that?
do a 3 min rotation in a dummy, check buffs on details
I just hit 80 an hour ago, so all I have is what I could scrounge up from nightfall and random pieces, no tier set yet
i really read in his sentence do i suck but apparently its just in my head
3-5min, the more t he merrier
so what
80% adrenaline rush uptime on this 3:08 LFR vexie kill just now
if someone asks if he sucks im not allowed to confirm it??
Apparently this number is 9% haste now
Without the tier set you should use vigor
@proven ocean what s the timestamp for rogue yap in max tlist?
yeah, so get 18%-19% unbuffed haste, change to vigor, as solo is saying, get tier set, try again
No you're fine, I am not offended in the slightest. I know I suck, I'm brand new.
thx bro
damn bro you're so cool
u2 bro keep it up
Ok thanks guys, can I just swap out recuperator -> forced induction for vigor or is it too much DPS loss?
also i updated wording it was really not meant to be mean
You should do that until you get tier
toward the end
the evoker was a generational yapper
Share the wealth?
@daring oxide thanks for the important video
extremely real and true
https://www.youtube.com/live/TfCT-rz7T0Y?si=8UdhMkhW1pP3GNt_&t=16941 couple minute behind the timestamp
watch on twitch there is a lot more people there unless you don't want to (youtube premium is OP)
Many thanks
Hahaha you’re welcome
Imexiled, the best outlaw in raid (sorry zac) hahaha
Ngl I was kinda excited hearing Max defend us flat damagers when shindig said we’d be bad hehe
4 outlaws in the raid next tier confirmed
Don’t worry I believe too
guy will add that link as a bot command now
bad
its the elf from harry potter
zac is overrated anyway and a bad player

fk i was thinking swap into fire
outlaw bottom b is that even real 
my chosen alts for the seasons are always busted
U shouldnt base what u play based on a max tierlist
yeah i know
gna be honest with u
Yes you should !
it's all true, mages are horrible
They really dont
nah at ptr arcane and frost, as i practiced are very good
i dealt the worst dmg with fire tbh
but is the most fun to play
And a baguette french 🤣
its a constant joke in my guild that max's tier lists literally never pan out correctly
I thought the sarcasm was obvious mb
yeah i was talking to myself really
dw
but after the fire spec nerf its normal that is worse than arcane and frost
shadow was B tier sdespite being so OP it had to get nerfed
and outlaw is almost always placed substantially lower than where it ends up actually performing via stats
type shit
If you only care about ksh outlaw is very good
I think I said on that call "its probably B tier but put it in C tier because nothing matters"
It's the same problem as always
Big mdi pulls outlaw bad
Pug average keys outlaw op
Yeah, unless something changes outlaw will have a hard time overall, is good but 0 utility, no funnel or prio...
its like dmg and only dmg
U know, except all the seasons where Outlaw has been good
i liked it more at s2

I just wanna roll around in the mud man
There will also be balance patches
They should give us smoke bomb back for pve
yeah i was thinking about sub, but i think i will have the same problem as s2
if u dont have premade team or utility overall, hard to get into keys
make friends 
high keys i mean
im trying to make a pre now
but i only have a ww
: >
can we talk about some actual valid tier lists in here
nerf tracer man what a dogshit buff to her i swear
thats not a would you date list
nah outlaw is above WW minimum thats cooked
nah bro the game is 100x worse when tracer is OP
which she has been this entire season
i was a tracer one trick
4300 peak, 2700h of ranked
then brigitte got released, and goat
The entire games life cycle*
made her unplayable at all for months 😠
she desreves to be op
idk anything about modern ow tho, i m just yappin
I’m a moira main thanks to stadium, it’s so good
i ve heard stadium is a fun thing
moira is definitely broken AF in stadium, shes so fun though
never looked into it idk what that is but 3rd person ow
they cooked so hard with stadium
i m listening to max tiermeme, it s so funny that other classes talk like "you press X and you feel powerfull when you press Y"
what did they do to udk?





what the cowy
??
!!
cen
si
explane
this
alert alert

buff assa???
meanwhile for rogue it s going like "if you ever lose your herotalent u gotta press vanish which is a 2mn cd but also Y is going crazy on Z because with Q you can B the L out of your G and T combo going damn on your rotationnal reset for more"
even i dont undetrstand a shit

Censi - #1 Ramfam fan — 4:53 PM
meanwhile for rogue it s going like "if you ever lose your herotalent u gotta press vanish which is a 2mn cd but also Y is going crazy on Z because with Q you can B the L out of your G and T combo going damn on your rotationnal reset for more"
even i dont undetrstand a shit

chat
why did tettles say
that boomie was a dead spec
have i been lying to
@cinder relic check this out bro
this is just propaganda from him tbh
boomie could do 1 billion dps or 1 dps and you'd get the same answer from him
zac please, make a ui that seems from 2025 and not 1999
The spec I like is good, but the spec I dislike is also bad
me when I play warlock
i mean
zac
they re mad
cuz they cant play their hero talent
and they got nerfed by 18%
overall
but if you re 40% ahead, what is 18% anyway

@vivid vessel

mages and boomkins sandbagging and acting like aggrieved victims, a tale as old as time itself 
damn izen cooked with that thumbnail
than outlaw and uh
Least clickbaity WoW youtuber
bro really went full ragebait with the thumbnail for 250 views in 25 min
izen my goat
idk why they buffed her when shes been in every t500s dps champ pool
like
hi , anyone know when RTB will substitute my previous RTB buff and when it will add or refresh them? ty
I havent watched a good izen yap video in a while, dis should be good
S tier lighting from my goat
Sandbagging has been invented by balance druids
Is jastor's diamond good for us?
not really
no
it might have been invented by boomkins, but it was perfected by mages
When there's floodings, they fly in tettles to help out with the sandbagging
workshop all over again
Sandbagging was invented by balance druids in 1743, when the first boomkin player ate a bag of sand and then proceeded to say he wasn't sick.
dude all these classes yapping for buffs, crying over nerfs and sandbagging, meanwhile we just chilling here, happy we are not djihading into packs every 20 seconds and appreciate that there isnt (not yet atleast) any new bugs coming, even excited that a few got fixed or baked into tierset 
Speaking of Tettles, I was mind blown when he was saying Feral and Ele were to most victim complex specs in the game and I was sitting here like bro you do know Spriest and destro exists right?
he should look in a mirror
spriest? Bro is a boomkin main, hes the biggest victim complex of all time
Spriest get so many changes it's actually bad tbf
although ngl the mages made themselves sound like even bigger victims than tettles did for boomkin, which was some genuinely unhinged work
Oh without a doubt, just saying he is delusional
let's not forget about hunters
their fucking TC put MM in D tier for m+
and BM in C
well
it should be illegal to be so delusional
their sims prob account for hunters being shit at the game/pressing defensives, so the sim kills the player 2 mins into the sim
nah I just call those people Ret mains
im not sure what is worse, them putting MM in dobby tier and BM in C tier.....or Porom genuinely putting Arcane in A tier next to Destro/Aff/Holy pally 
it was mm in c and bm in b
for some reason c is "Dobby"
granted mm in c is still probably silly low
I think the MM is the biggest sandbag so is the Fire Mage next to BDK
fuck off
Ah yes, the most locked in meta spec that dominated keys all of PTR and has giga prio/funnel as a mage spec is certainly not S+ tier and should be compared with aff lock 
the reason is mm and bm sim basically the same at the mm's target cap, but bm gets better after that
but mm has a better bustier profile so
if I were blizzard I would teach them a lesson
and intentionally make these specific specs dogshit for a season
or two
so they have something to cry about
frost mage in B tier with fury warr and WW is also some top tier comedy
just leave my poor SV alone, azor doesn't even like it 
I'm thinking of making a SV alt, is it any good?
its fun :)
I think he underrated it for raid tbf
for m+ idk, banshers thinks it should also be at least b
surv is pretty decent on PTR in keys, prob not as good as it was in s1 but its definitely not bad
Real talk though W Shindig last night F everything else.
I think BM and MM will probably be better than surv on most fights for raid though
If it's fun for you, it will be good. If it isn't, it won't be
I enjoy survival
there's a very significant st gain over the ranged specs, but we'll see
Survival does not have low numbers right now if played well
mind you that's only after you swap out tiers, BM particularly has a very strong S2 tier
Some specs are doing 2 piece s2 set 2 piece s3 set, but I don't know which ones
MM will still be strong on the fights it was good on during raid testing b4 they were nerfed just because having bursty cleave from ranged is good on those fights, and BMs ST is still good+they will definitely benefit from being a ranged that never loses uptime on a number of fights
on hc fights mm will def slap because of short fights
Finally got this shit working, combobar shows when incombat or outofcombat but got atleast 1 power, otherwise hide
That tier list yesterday was just awful, everyone just trying to sandbag their spec in that thing
What do you mean? Fire mage and boomkin are definitely F tier
When I saw the hunter stuff I pretty much turned off his stream for a while, it was dumb.
theyre just basing it off the math. Sims have MM being awful now with all the nerfs. Azorth isn't in ptr grinding every day he is basing it off aims more than anything thus Dobbie
Once I heard tettles was coming on i was out of there. 🤣
I do think the rogue one was pretty fair and honest. I know some of the other ones were as well
The restro druid sandbag was really funny to watch for the next few healers to try and fit theirs in
Duh udk is physically damage now
Dam Zeross
He's right
Haha he has to be auto attacking
!wa
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
So how different are the Fatebound and Trickster stat spreads? Do we need to make a single target gear set to get the gains of swapping fatebound for single target?
Its the same kir
Kir wants 19% haste
Then vers

Should be same stats for both builds
The new BM build is super cool, really high flat consistent damage with free cleave from beasts
it is tho
it gain 5% from war
and more from totem
not much from monk tho
I think it’ll be great for some of the bosses
end of run
udk gains 0 dps from monk realistically
ye actually 0 dps
100% of their dmg is shadow+frost atm
is it just me or am i the only one who keeps wanting to cancel KS perma
at ful lcp
at full cp
i m worried about your life taste
i hate pressing that shit

sometimes im pressing ss just to fill cp into a coup after KS @gaunt phoenix
no i meant
press ss during KS
to just fill it to max cp
that way i dont lose any downtime between max cp and afterwards
but idk

Yeah sometimes i want to cancel at 5cp and ss
dont remember if i ran it through sim
thats what im doing
like even if KS does infinite dps if they buff it by 500%
it just feels wrong not to
but idk
still trying to feel everything through meters
i dont have an answer on whats better yet
some of the pet dam is phys, but it's little
0.7%
mystic touch wont make it 70%
so ye
festering strike is also physical but 0.3%
rest is all pure shadow/frost
!wa
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
what do u want it to do
there was a hidden opportunity macro when it was talented to use ambush over sinister strike
i lost it
found it from here, i just don't know the command 
!ambush
It is possible to use a macro to cast Ambush during Stealth/Audacity and Sinister Strike otherwise, instead of using the stealth bar:
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
*This is most useful to swap between HO and KIR builds without changing keybinds.
Stance swap delay is, for now, not an issue since we don't want to cast vanish into ambush anymore.
ah there it is, ty!
I was about say did their damage profile change or something 🤣🤣
well dk gain 5% from warrior the same (actually more) than outlaw
and it gains more from totem than you do
its just monk that only goes to outlaw mostly
but monk is less than warrior
still like 4.8% or smth
Dw they keep buffing thunder blast warriors might be happy playing fury
i got my mythic kills on rogue done, should i upgrade my trinkets or just get mythic mugzee, im split between junkmaster and capos
monk buff useless on dk
idk if dk gains alot from skyfury anymore actually
ye prob not anymore
their dmg profile has no death coils (their execute) procs on atks and stuff
faster = more procs
death coil at 11th is crazy wth
wtf did they do to unholy...like it was still doing pretty well before the latest tuning this week but its kind of giga blasting now
did unholy learn to bug abuse too?
ye they giga nerfed it
they buffed everythign else
so they dont rly need skyfury anymore, idk if PI is still giga op for them aswell not sure
is their rotation more interesting than it is now?
It's exactly the same
More or less
Idk if they've ever had a spec where they throw so many changes at it and the playstyle remains the same
it’d be cruel to make them press more than 1 button
did u wipe after pressing adr
everytime that happens to me
my body starts hurting
if your ingame mishappenings are making you hurt in the physical realm its probably time to stop
thats not a real option
if they don’t… u don’t have enough dedication
Changes are live on ptr? Or na
I felt like I was doing good dam on outlaw. Idk if pre/post buff
ye its live
if they nerf udk
i think outlaw will be in a rly good spot
it needs abit more buffs still tho imo
maybe another 5%
idk its ptr lots of sccuffed things that happen
we missed count end of key
30 sec no ar
didnt know we missed 1%
would've saved ar i think
i think AR should stop ticking down if ur not attacking
after like
3 seconds
would be great to negate the bad downtime of having to fly or move to a mechanic and not cringe out outlaw dps totally
i dont think it'll be gamebreaking too
i think it'll balance out outlaw being so dogshit in downtime
i think im starting to really enjoy outlaw again no cappi
i like the gameplay
once they semi fix KS abit more
it'll be giga nice
how can I see Ghostly Strike uptime on logs and on a ptr sim like this ?
you cant see it in logs
its ike
one of the only debuff that isnt logged
for some reason
ghosts aren't real is why smh
zac isnt real
neither are birds
Crap, I pulled the trigger on 2 litres of coffee this morning but I won't be able to play today... regret
totally agree
I think if they were to properly rework outlaw
theyd just remove subterfuge dependency by doing something like that
LOL
still mad you thought KS was aoe?
I mean you had me going
ill give you that
you played a mean game
nah its a st aoe
lmao come back 8hrs later and this is the first messages I see
now thats a zeross quote
Adrenaline Rush is now a permanent passive bonus to Outlaw Rogues, obtainable at level 30
I barely just woke up
dude
ew'
for breakfast
mewo
wtf
miaou
72g of protein
ol
ol
wtf
its my lazy way of getting enough protein
damn right
ross you like my new board
no
No numpad 
other boeardkeys?
yeah its nothing crazy but i had wanted a green keeb for a while
cooked take
I thought that was camo at first
ftoentenrhnier
yeah i have like 6 now 
adr + pacemaker = heart attack?
need for spreadsheet optimization
yeah gmk british racing green rd 2
sick
too bad itll shine in a few months 😦
i love gmk so much
but I hate the shine
just gotta wash those fingies more 
but yeah i have gmk stealth and it is so sad how much they shine esp cause its black on grey so its v apparent
wemo
i
was
wondering
if like
i
should
buy
oh
nvm
i already bought one last month
keyboard i mean
ye nvm i wanted a new one even tho mine is already giga ass new

hahaha
you would
memo
best yogurt brand
sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh
ait
wtf is this miaou
does
I only have ever used mechanical
yogurt
every morning
this is making me hungry for yogurt
I add them
nah theyre a dlc
I havent not eaten yogurt
for yeras
Mewo — 9:03 PM
I havent not eaten yogurt
for yeras
wtf does this mean
yopghurt best thing to eat
wtfff
its super healthy
i dont eat yogurt cause it feels like a waste of money
is it healthy
pasta is worth money
pasta isnt actually as satiating as you think but yeah its very cheap
carbs are very temporary satiation

protein isnt as voluminous but it will keep you feeling full for longer
well ok but i make a whole plate of pasta for like 50c
healthy fats op
and im full for 3 weeks cuh
Chickpea pasta
I love pasta yeah
Like outlaw rogue
idk if anything comes even close or
wait till he says it has to be microwaved

hm
HOLUP
you cant keep it
yeah
well you can buy nice bread everywhere
like just buy what you want to eat on your way home
but if its not litteraly freshly baked
isnane or
10 min ago
in the US you have to go out of your way to get good bread

weros
Assa gettin a fat nerf, i wouldnt even entertain that tier list
can ytou even get bread in the us
rezos
there are bakeries here yes
show me a pciture of bread you get in the usa mewo
no cappi
mewo
I dont have any
I dont buy bread either
for the same reason
i see
bro show me a picture
this is a good bakery in SF
ok thats real bread ye
nvm
i mean ye
its real bread
i dont like this type of bread tho
yes
we have a good healthy ass bakery here
im a baguette enjoyer
I like a baguette sometimes
I mean they make baguettes at this place
The bread grows on trees or somethin?
thats why yeast likes it lol
i like baguettes that are fresh out of the oven but not too cooked right
like a nice white baguette
even in france bakery are bad at making these type of baguette btw
this is what i eat for gym
I dont like these
litteraly skill issue
personally
i mix it with tuna lettuce and lemon mayonnaise
well
they're giga helathy
thats hwy
i eat them
eh
I think whole grain bread is mid af
it actually doesnt
thats not digestible protein
idk how but









guys assa S tier in zorthas tier list