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but you can use it before
if theres a damage amp or lots of mobs preset
or a prio mob
Wait, use it on CD with BTE? or wait for 30? :/
the stacks scale linearly, as long as you dont overcap it doesnt matter when you use it
any damage amps notwithstanding
yeah this shit is like the most giga cursed thing
how does the bladeflurry part even work for KS then
if its splitting and hitting all those units
does each hit bladeflurry?
so thats like a LOT of BF instances actually
yeah but aoe hits dont bladeflurry....
blade rush doesnt proc bladeflurry
so how does this even fucking work
bro
u mean that ya but its tuned to be aoe so idk
aoe "split"
shit design if u ask me
so it doesnt proc bladeflurry?
or does the main single hit that procs fazed proc bladeflurry
it does proc bf
but its an aoe!
does each aoe hit procs its own bladeflurry instance?
okay I got details working im gona figure this out
no idea how i'd figure that out
im just gona 1cp ks
and see how many hits I get
on 1 unit
vs 3 units
oh it just hits with mainhand and offhand
it doesnt hit all the units
this was 3 units
and it hit 4 times
leme see 1 unit at 1cp
I think its single target bro
it just doesn't spread fazed
that well
okay so it actually is single target
that makes more sense
the reason it hits so many times
idk how you can clarify it to be st
it just hits more if its aoe
?
and 1cp KS does 4 hits against 3 units
yeah
it doesnt do more hits the more units
5-8cp
ah u mean that i mean
okay ill do 7cp
idk
I think testing it on 100 mobs would be ideal to check
maybe theres a cap of how many hits until u reach x amount of mobs
still is aoe tho even if its 1 target infront of u
well if it doesnt do any more hits
aoe cone
full circle
@covert kestrel
its actually what we thought originally
the reason it hits so much is just cuz it does 2 hits per cp

plus a baseline of 2
16 hits cone infront of you is a single target ability
i convince you 2 times
etc etc
it doesnt hit all the units zeross
u find some random shit
its a single target ability
and u type it all over again
it doesnt do more hits
the more units there are
that makes way more sense
cuz otherwise how would it bladeflurry
shooting a barrage of aoe hits
was very confusing
makes it st to you
it doesnt though
because it doesnt shoot more
thats just a visual
what do u think its an octopus
thats gonna bring out 200 more guns
cuz there are 200 more mobs

so like if you use blade rush vs 1 unit it hits 1 time
but if you use bladerush vs 3 units
it hits 3 times
but for KS it always hits the same number of times
regardless of units
cuz its not an aoe
yo guys fist of fury is a st ability because its used in st
wat
no fist of fury hits more times based on units
so youll get more damage instances if theres 5 units vs 1 unit
in fact youll get exactly 5 times more damage instances
still both of them are aoe regardless if it hits 14 hits or 1000 hits
KS is a singel target ability that targets units randomly
this is the wildest take zeross has ever had
it doesnt hit the cone
its an aoe
it hits 1 unit
it doesnt hit everything in the cone
with BG
VF
idk what ur talking about
ur just yapping rn
its poorly designed, doesnt spread fazed well, hits a barrage of cannonballs infront of u still an aoe
its split in the end
so it doesnt matter
aoe is aoe
dispatch is st
if it hit 14 times
in a cone infront of you
OMG DISPATCH BECAME AOE
but no
mewo would argue
is pistol shot aoe cause it hits 3 times
except it hits 1 mob only

and ks hits random mobs ifnront of u
cuz its aoe
as it should
it hits 1 mob
in fact if youre unlucky it could hit the same mob for all the hits
or lucky depending on if you want funnel or not
brother
this is actually better though cuz you can aim it so that you actually do funnel
its good that its st
over aoe potentially
u wont cast that shit without bf stop spreading wrong information
im not
blade rush is aoe
KS is not
its a fact
ur saying it could hit the same mob over and over
thats not the case
it spreads fazed equally and instantly with bf
and on top of that u BF too
its aoe with or without bf

my guy discovered that per cp it sends x amount of shots just today 
barrage of shots infront of you is st
what a day we're living in
2 casuals telling me to login ptr to explain how it works when they login and say oh sorry zeross and u keep on changing what ur saying every 5 minutes
ur both just trolling
we didnt change anything
you just have a different idea of what area of effect means
ye i live in a different universe
a cone that covers everything infront of u is a st ability
interesting ideology you got my dude
that only hits one target at a time
zeross has turned hostile 
tbf this is a dumb convo
16 hits in 2 seconds is a st ability guys
pistol shot aoes becasue we keep putting too much powder in our pistols
idk where he wants to go with it
literally every ability that covers an area
is considered aoe
because it affects that area
it covers the area infront of you
its considered aoe
whether you like it or not
"area of effect"
it affects the area infront of you
not the target ur targetting
thats how it becomes single target
and my guy here spams language barrier
i just brought this argument up to my group and it immediately divided everyone LMAO
it's an aoe targetting mechanism for a ST attack
Can’t wait to see who wins the technicality trophy
wtf is happening
Trying to see who’s most right on the internet
The yapping is real this morning
I think the decider is
it was glorious
does it hit multiple enemies / is the total damage increased with extra targets
since idk if i'd consider meteor style abilities to be aoe
shit that splits its dmg
i mean damage splitting is literally aoe tho
you misunderstand me
in spree's case all the aoe is flurry anyway so it's aoe by default
Anything that hits more targetts then 1 is aoe in my book
but for other classes there can be a distinction
For eel
how about oldschool meteor without the new talents
it split its dmg between targets, 10 to 1, 5 to 2, 3.33 to 3
etc
Thats aoe
while it did satisfy hitting multiple enemies req it failed to increase its dmg per target
It splits between targets. Das aoe
increasing damage per target has nothing to do with aoe tho
idk, in my mind there's a category for meteor style "aoe"
a lot of aoe trinkets do this
i mean split damage vs per target is branches of aoe
they "hit" extra targets but just divide the dmg
either way it's dumb af to cope that spree isnt aoe
it clearly is
here's a nifty lil thing
Yep thats aoe
old ks is st
new ks is aoe
no s there for old ks
now it has s
so its aoe
solved

yall just gotta look at hard data instead of yapping sometimes
All hail S
i swear
Sherlock would be jealous
I didn't know this could be decisive
Glad to be right again tho
We love smart kings
to be specific
its ST damage instances with AOE target acquisition
id still consider that aoe overall tho
The reworked ks?
consider this
ye
Nah its solves already, its aoe
A good rule of thumb I just made up is
If it effects an enemy you're not currently targeting
It's aoe
focus macro is targetting your focus 🤔
thats a hunter resource
Wrong
target of target macro monka
It's a secondary target
all my judgements on h pal were aoe 
Hunters don't exist
is power infusion aoe 🤔
well if its a secondary target, its murder
i think it has to be by this definition
same with freedom ig
offensive cooldowns can be aoe
I'm not
chi wave is aoe
arcane intellect is AOE
tbh "hits multiple enemy targets simultaniously" woulda been better than "hits something other than your target"
nah ur just complicating things now
but KS doesn't hit multiple enemy targerts simultaneously
by that logic we'd be back to ks not being aoe
we shal enshrine this new knowledge
it hits random targets that aren't necessarily different sequentially
We need to specify which ks
what about things like charged bolts
that randomly hit a single target that might not be your target
aoe
Aoe
that's the same as whatever new KS is
but its clearly st
Its aoe
literally the new rule of thumb by popo its aoe
aoe targetting on a ST spell
I press new KS once I hit multiple enemies it’s aoe
Pin it
The new rule of thumb
Who said new ks isn’t aoe
well there was a discussion that I missed about whether it was aoe or not between 2 people that had different ideas of what aoe meant
confusion all around
good stuff
it was very fun
Is mouse over targeting aoe
zeross vs mewo so you know it was a banger
i briefly looked back at it and chuckeld
by the new popo rule yes
Who said it wasn’t aoe, mewo or zeross
Mouse over TARGETING
a target is a very specific thing
You're targeting it with your mouse. It's in the name
Damn i shouldn't have said the word targeting
Now we're getting into semantics
Mewo
we were already knee deep in semantics
word for word
the entire argument was semantics to begin with
What about garrote spreading

You guys can’t argue with popo
is it aoe if it keeps hitting the target after I swap off of them 🤔
Yeah but now I'm involved
yes
This yapping is going to deep
read the rule and apply it
When will u realize argue with poopoo = argue with zeross
stop asking questions
true
crackshot is aoe if you untarget the mob before the dispatch goes off
huge
What's that
true
Oh the warlock thing
aren't we all enemies of ourselves
You take dmg every second to sprint, lock spell
That's still a thing?
yea
i like that
Etch it in marble
very simple for even the smoothest of brains
And confuses the people who think too hard about things
im going to spend the next hour trying to come up with exceptions brb
we've already found a bunch dw
oh so like not REAL exceptions, just exceptions for the sake of being annoying
Pm
ackchually level exceptions
No
well except for stuff like charged bolts which are actually exceptions
me throwing a banana peel and another person's car slipping on it in mario kart is aoe
real
real
the aoe emotional damage can not be understated
abusing my non existent sibling til he turned to a life of crime could be considered aoe tbh, society and my family's happiness paid the price
wow
Yes. The TV, the controller, etc
im an only child, this is a hypothetical
Almost reported you on wow
I was gonna say child abuse but terrorism is close enough
is a child abusing another child child abuse
more importantly is it aoe
wtf racism 😭
@frail veldt can't believe you let yourself get gaslight
actual skill issue bro I would never
tbf terrorism counts as aoe both cc and damage
BRO
He had me GOING
When I throw my empty bottle at my beer fetching machine and miss and it shatters.
Did you actually read that whole thing
DUDE IT HIT 30 TIMES
In one cast

Only thing stupid I did was thinking zeros was anything but
Also btw
u got giga ross'd my guy
Yeah I realize
This is the kind of in depth theory crafting I come here for
It doesn't spread fazed unless you press bf
Yeah
And it's litteraly just a magic scripted thing
It all makes sense to me now
It just spread it to bfed target
It is exactly what I thought it was the whole time

I got rossd af
Ok
Good talk
I think imma go back to bed now
Idk why I woke up so early on a Saturday
That's not a good rule at all lol what
I need to watch shindig thing first
French bed
You could feel something dumb happening in the disc

Nevermind
Fuck your thumb
Vod is sub only
Gross
bro
Ok ty
giga free youtube vods
Is youtube still trying to get rid of adblockers?
google yea
They're doing a really bad job

Pretty easy to do when there are like 100 good mages that play wow
Out of the 50 billion
zac, the entire tierlist was thrown off
tierlist slop
🪞
Be nice
Everyone here is so mean to each other! Let's all hold hands and say 1 thing we like about outlaw.
Roll the Boners
smh
i think everyone sandbagged
which is dumb as shit but w/e
It’s meme content I’m sure the people that matter understand that
One sec I'm watching shiding
He didn't sandbag
He is doing very good
What a guy
he was very ethical
Ok he kinda sandbagged outlaw in m+ but his reasoning was sounds so it's alright
@minor trellis you yapped good my man I enjoyed listening
Banger yap
only missed the acro mention and talking more about how fb goes to shit when more then 1 target ( unless he did and i forgot)
Oh did max do the thing
ye
Missed it darn
Lit
Ye I wish he would have mentioned how every hero talent is horribly designed 
But it was good it was informative
Good yap
He did but in the assa section
Ye q but
Not really
A bit I guess
Ye I guess just not for outlaw
Guys
I need to go back to sleep but there is no way now
I'm cooked
It's too early
Why has outlaw's mastery been terrible ever since Legion, and yet Blizz still haven’t fixed it?
I think one of the main thing is that the damage doesnt scale from what it emanates from
And it also doesn't proc from procs
Like coins
So like say anytime you buff x spell damage (for tuning) or you have talents that buff x spell damage
Everytime that happens mastery loses a little bit of value cause it stays behind
And similarly with stuffs like fatebound
20% of your damage is coin
But they don't proc main gauche
So mg get devalued again
And ye
They also don't care about mastery being bad so they don't buff it directly
outlaw b in raid
outlaw b in m+?

what si this sorcery
are mages sandbagging
why is frost in b tier for m+
Cringe ngl
I never said it doesnt spread fazed
And here ur going again without reading the whole thing all over
Spamming gaslight at everything i talk about
KS is an aoe cone or a single target cone that was the whole conversation
I think outlaw is like A in phys comp, meh spec otherwise, but the mages hard sandbagged the list so
frost mage b
fire mage dobby
arcane a
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
man what is this fuckin meme list
outlaw dps is comparable to live in phys now nah? just worse prio
Haha
It's worse AOE worse st worse Prio
But not by that much imo
So it's gonna be alright
And you don't kill yourself with ks
Which is a big +
make sure to sandbag in raid to get buffed 
na shindig overrated outlaw in raid
Ye
I mean
I think max didn't understand
There is flatline
And there is outlaw
Outlaw loses everything with a bit of downtime
“Just in case you’ve never seen a flat line before…”
Like tindral type shit it's actually so over
tindral is disgusting boss
cba man
azor saying mm was bad before nerfs is funny too
when yarrgi was doing 14.5m overall in halls
at 10 ilvls lower than ptr is now
Wasn’t he saying like. It was entirely pad or something
Yep
Cause of low keys and mobs dying too fast
Except a 20 on ptr felt exactly like a 20 on live
So that's just fake
And they were doing these numbers in high keys so
we hate buffs

ty :)
?
oh no a role
New member (joined like almost 1 year ago)
Almost exacly a year
nah I left for a while and rejoined
Potato potato
either way
this is reddit behaviour
you said something I don't like, I am going to check your account age
checkmate 🤓
CAKE DAY CAKE DAY WOOOPA
its not even that
it was a useless response
bro
Tbf it was a useless question
Yeh
a buff can be absolutely useless
"is getting buffed good" yes
it's an aura buff + a big buff to an ability you are definitely going to use
what do you think
Guys how good was the 5% sub buff 
If Ur question is "how good is the buff" it's like 8% FB and 5% trickster
5% good, feel free to quote me on that
merz already answered my question like a normal person and not an attention seeker
@vivid vessel thoughts on max tlist compared to your chess mog?
I presume weapon crafting week one is the way to go since there is no crazy weapons
💀
What the helly
Gj ruby you learnt the basic


very rare you don't just craft weapon week 1
since if you get one in vault...you just put crafted in OH
You always craft ideally even if wep in vault
too bad I am just going to craft a dagger first week 
ye
Censi
Be carefull
craft int sword
at that point you just make a new rogue character 
We storm his chat
Int sword ez
Ok
I got banned
I ll be there
Ok
@me
And he called me a dirty pig
wtf
who is casualaddict
True
Wait so
He called u a dirty pig but u got banned for that
How
Or did u say something too

He must have answered
True
Since i quitted
It was the 600000 time out
Secret
holy
Giga op
Sub to my patreon
Sub to his patreon ye
how did your fatebound assa cooking go zeross
Wats kb bug
Big spatters inc
did they just not fix that one
It loses stacks
or did they fix it wrong
Lmao
It shouldnt lose stacks
How blizzard can be so bad
Basically lasts 4 sec longer
They re légit dog sometimes
But starts from 0
was the ST good at least?
Sorry blizzard people

Idk kb is giga huge in st
So we have to wait
Cringe that lucky coin still 12 sec
that must feel quite good to play
can't wait for them to neuter KB even harder 
?
Ask stupid questions get stupid answers
2nd boss drop weapon
i got a pretty good answer from merz
And if you a rogue
You get the dagger
So you probably wait to kill that boss to craft
Or wait till you think you need to craft to craft
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
check pins
Hi pirates
arr me hearty
this mentality is why people hate on class discords
it takes the same effort to asnwer that question correctly or say "check pins"
mate
or not answer at all
and your response to someone asking a stupid question
Is it?
is to say "you're stupid"
Shit i thought 2 was bigger than 5
I don't know, I will ask the rogue discord
no my response was to be sarcastic
in text where no one can see your smug smirk and raised eyebrows
if you think that was a good question, you're probably one of these people on X commenting "grok is this true"
the quality of the question is irrelevant
you can either choose to be a dick, choose to answer correctly, point them to the answer, or say nothing
and most people in class discords choose the first option
when you shame people for seeking knowledge, they become dumber not smarter
if you have to ask if a buff is good or not, you deserve a bit of mockery
but according to this guy #outlaw message there are no stupid questions
(I know it's ancient)
@stiff hawk Dfa op or?
But w/e
there is a magic search function
i guess it hasnt come up that much then
Bro when somebody posts something like this How am I suppose to respond
"Is a buff good"
There’s a point where you default to kinda sassy answers cause you’ve seen this over and over and over and over
Like yes man, a buff is good
Especially to a weird post
If you want a more specific answer, ask your question more specifically
Ig that means the dude spends way too much time in the outlaw channel
the way I understood the question is if it is good enough
if it was a buff to specific talents or hero talents I would understand the question

but it's a straight up aura buff
Both equally silly answers
Both equally as useless
use common sense
Cause the answer is there
Good enough in what sense of the word
It’s a buff
I mean
Is it good enough to be meta? Is it good enough to pug 10s? Is it good enough to overtake the other 2 specs?
He’s a community figure
Is it good enough for what
i tought it was a bait because of the image im ngl
Its not that hard to not reply to a message if youve seen it too may times
What if I secretly like the boss and I want it to live longer. Feels like a nerf to me 
The only reason I responded is because the dude was acting like a prick
Sure
But like
I do t see anything wrong with the way guy responded
He can fuck right off
Like at all
"He answered it like a normal person and not like an attention seeker"
totally normal answer
Dude went being a shitter
How about fuck off and eat shit
i mean, true, that was a bad response, but two wrongs dont make a right, can just time them out or sumthin
we aint teenagers (i hope)
And got the same attitude he brought right back
I think he called me the attention seeker, not you
If you have to always be the bigger man, you are hanging around small people
You could time them out
Idgaf about being the bigger person
But that wouldn’t do much
instead you would reduce yourself to their size
He wants to act like a bitch
Cause people lime that
he gonna get treated like a bitch
Don’t come back anyways
the whole point of being the bigger man is that you dont stoop to their level, its a form of self-respect
but to each their own
They get timed out acting smug and never come back
Yeah but calling somebody a dumbfuck is more fun
So might as well humble them
Did you consider that at all?
i mean true, it is cathartic
Way to many people think they shouldn’t humble people
but also toxic
I think more people should humble people talking big shit

but again, its your choice free speech and all that
I mean I get your point, but being the bigger person all the time is solos job
I enjoy rolling around in the mud
so if somebody wants to act like an asshole
Leads to less people being assholes and talking big shit without anything to back it up
they are going to get treated like one
You can hate me for it but idgaf
Some people deserve much worse than how they get treated by me in here

then pop off king 🫡
We should bring back bullying on god
If I can't act like an asshole to this person then this role is worthless
did they outlaw bullying ?
I didnt get the memo
- this is the outlaw channel
I agree that the way they responded to your message made no sense. Dunno if it was a misquote. But if a question needs further clarification, someone can ask for a clarification instead of starting a fight over it 
Badumtis
It wasn't a misquote
This is my exact point
My presence in the wow forums is needed
If he followed up and said "OH how much is this buff actually?
Then who tf cares
Ill answer the question
ANybody would
Or would just tell them to check pins
My presence alone leads to a reduction of people being confidently stupid in the forums
But when u give smug answers ur gonna get treated as such

I match energy
this sound like fengshui
ignorance and stubborn ignorance are different though
i hope you dont treat them equally
Of course
I've been in this discord for long enough to know how to act towards different people, trust me
ok but they got the smug answers first and started firing back
Eh, maybe? I think asking extremely broad questions in discords like this is dumb but
Its one thing to ask for help, or specifics
But again "Is this buff good" isnt a good question
Its a buff, of course its good
How can a buff be bad
Literally
Its like D
eeeh
Well the question in question (heh) is certainly dolly dumpster tier
yes and if your message has a question mark a bot blocks sending it and shows you the tier list before you confirm sending
we can make it a C then, we meet in the middle
Your questions in sub chat no cap?
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