outlaw

[frail veldt]

like if you just take out that line

[gaunt phoenix]

it's good in slice

[dense bolt]

is it like normal meld where u need to use pot then press stealth

so u get subt

[gaunt phoenix]

ya

[dense bolt]

macro works?

[gaunt phoenix]

idk

zac is testing it

[dense bolt]

kk

[pliant wind]

feral seems ded overall

[hallow spoke]

I still get subt not working 100% of the time, is the issue inputs too fast on the vanish or what

[gaunt phoenix]

subterfuge not working at all?

can happen if you break vanish with a trinket

[unkempt dew]

Are we meta yet?

[hallow spoke]

oh, like magnet I guess causing it

[frail veldt]

Are you using a trinket to break stealth

Can't macro trinkets on outlaw

That's a no no

[hallow spoke]

Yeah I had magnet on BTE I think

Well that's a saviour at least was doing my head in

[covert heart]

Always meta

[frank finch]

Doesn’t that meld pot share cd with tempered ?

[gaunt phoenix]

ya

[frank finch]

Are we saying it’s better then using tempered if it works?

[gaunt phoenix]

maybe

[frank finch]

[gaunt phoenix]

it does work, but idk how reliable, and i will add it it simc

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix

obs it doesnt work on bosses

[gaunt phoenix]

?>!>

[vivid vessel]

its just meld

but ye

[gaunt phoenix]

ye figures

[vivid vessel]

idk how to use it

i dont have enough space

[gaunt phoenix]

space?

[vivid vessel]

im overcapping stuffs

ye

unless i hold it a lot

[gaunt phoenix]

But is it buggy and weird

or does it just

work

[vivid vessel]

idk

works foer me

i used it like 3 times

[gaunt phoenix]

did you bte directly out of it

[copper owl]

anyone know the last week to use dinar on LOU loot? can I still spend it next week or goes away when new patch is live?

[gaunt phoenix]

remember with meld you couldnt bte

[vivid vessel]

ye

but im using the macro

so its stealthing

[proven ocean]

stealthing thing

[silver sluice]

Pretty sure vendors go away next week. I'm not finding anything off the rip to confirm though

[vivid vessel]

im not bteing out of the meld thing

im bteing out of stelath

[proven ocean]

[gaunt phoenix]

ya i get you

[proven ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255110288081162311/1318256041112109106/catnum-cat-nom.gif

[gaunt phoenix]

zero !

[proven ocean]

olo!

s

[gaunt phoenix]

stealth potion lets you actually stealth

[daring oxide]

@proven ocean

outlaw better m8

[proven ocean]

@proven ocean

outlaw better !

[vivid vessel]

that aint an overall

[daring oxide]

@proven ocean

[gaunt phoenix]

We're so barack

[vivid vessel]

this is overall but we wiped before last boss

in flood

but

these is our deaths

[proven ocean]

[silver sluice]

Is the ST acceptable?

[craggy quiver]

How's St on boss

[ashen void]

tomatoman down bad

[daring oxide]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985782626948349982/1024386610445435022/image0-9.gif

[vivid vessel]

idk its ok now

i just rolled 5 buffs perma on bosses so

doesnt count

[craggy quiver]

Ok

Just get lucky

[fierce mulch]

luck is a skill thats why you permaed 5 buffs

[daring oxide]

@vivid vessel getting gapped? reroll FERAL!

WE ARE SO BARACK OUTLAWS:

zac this fucking song goes hard

[proven ocean]

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

tier list for every pull confirmed

[daring oxide]

im just memeing

[proven ocean]

ik ik

[dense bolt]

speaking of tierlists

its the community tierlist thing today

we need someone to yap bad about rouge

any takers

[formal echo]

do you use tmw for when to reroll roll the bones?

[white marten]

HOLY OUTLAW HAS BURST NOW?!

were soooo burack

[proven ocean]

Pedro
[EPOG]
— 9:12 PM
HOLY OUTLAW HAS BURST NOW?!
were soooo burack

[red zinc]

@proven ocean hi

[proven ocean]

hi @red zinc

[red zinc]

ok 😃 👍 b

[proven ocean]

ok 😃 👍 b

[silver sluice]

how dare you post two details ss within 6 months

[white marten]

Ok 🥲👍🏽c

[red zinc]

im straight geeked off them 0.0 radlers rn

[gaunt phoenix]

I think most people just learn the rules and look at their active rtb buffs through weakauras to see if they should roll

[formal echo]

got ya, ill remake my tmw 😛 had one before that showed the icon if i should reroll

[proven ocean]

😛

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-cat-happy-cat-smile-gif-3555983607747631247

[dense bolt]

ross

have u played ptr

[proven ocean]

ya

[dense bolt]

have u popped off yet or

[proven ocean]

hi

[dense bolt]

cooked

a build

[proven ocean]

cooked and got cooked abit

[dense bolt]

yep W

lov ethat

[proven ocean]

still testing but bleed build looking very op op no cappi

giga dam!

[red zinc]

awhellnaw

[dense bolt]

wow !

[proven ocean]

its also

high keys viable

sheeeeeeesh or

[red zinc]

unemployment rate skyrockets

[dense bolt]

rouge gang on fleek sheesh cuh

[proven ocean]

rouge gang on fleek sheesh cuh

🧢

[desert tendon]

rouge gang on fleek sheesh cuh

[dense bolt]

no cap

[desert tendon]

👲

[dense bolt]

yep

[grim spear]

[proven ocean]

wrong cap

[desert tendon]

yo zero

outlaw meta

trust me

[proven ocean]

yo isnec

censi*

[dense bolt]

insec

[proven ocean]

i trust you

[desert tendon]

for real

GIGA DAMAGE

best st in the game

infinite aoe

[proven ocean]

[desert tendon]

slow and easy rotationnal buttons

[proven ocean]

nah but fr fr tho

[desert tendon]

frfr

[proven ocean]

bleed build is actually crazy for high keys

[desert tendon]

i aint no liar

[proven ocean]

like

[tender sedge]

I really never touched outlaw but does your guys fingers never get tired of the high APM

[proven ocean]

its way better in premades

very very good

[dense bolt]

ross had alert in his twitch title yesterday

[proven ocean]

10/10 kind of op

[dense bolt]

giga hack

10 k viewers

btw

[desert tendon]

bleed build more like noob build

[red zinc]

hes lying honestly

[desert tendon]

all my homies play zero's build

[proven ocean]

fk the zero's build

whos that guy anyawy

[red zinc]

the only viable rogue spec is sub just like this season

[desert tendon]

a rando

not even r1 rogue

imagine

not being r1

[proven ocean]

noob fr fr

[desert tendon]

of a class nobody plays

lmao

[dim parrot]

Just lust in execute and bleed is gg

[proven ocean]

singular focus does 10% of ur dmg

in ptr

with current tunings ^

[desert tendon]

zero

[dense bolt]

when u gonna grow up tho

[desert tendon]

have u seen boomie discord?

[dense bolt]

and play law

[desert tendon]

[dense bolt]

srsly

[red zinc]

its a pretty normal funnel season though isnt it

[dense bolt]

sin sucks !

[red zinc]

like bosses exist

and its op for that

[desert tendon]

yea

[red zinc]

but not that many random big hp mobs

[desert tendon]

gigachads play outlaw

that s real

[proven ocean]

not just that

alot of funnel packs

[desert tendon]

every outlaw is a gigachad

[dense bolt]

fuckin amen

[desert tendon]

but zac

[proven ocean]

idk rem i stop wow maybe

[desert tendon]

he s the exception

ya know

[proven ocean]

i'll only play outlaw i think

fk other specs for now

[dense bolt]

no you wont

stop playing wow

u addicted !

u are trapped !

[desert tendon]

go stop zero

trust

i ve quitted

[proven ocean]

i did censi

[desert tendon]

i m so happi rn

[proven ocean]

im only playing from time to time

[red zinc]

life improved drastically when I dipped from wow / here for 2 weeks

[proven ocean]

to check ptr stuff

[desert tendon]

so much time to play other stuff

[dense bolt]

censi has never been this down bad

[desert tendon]

and be with friends

[dense bolt]

censi is a liar !

[desert tendon]

and i ve discovered what people call grass

damn it s amazing

[proven ocean]

censi u know me im way worse than anyone at that if im playing wow

[dense bolt]

im allergic to grass

fuck grass

[red zinc]

zeross truly a great person

[desert tendon]

nah

[red zinc]

making me reflect and dropping wow for a while

[proven ocean]

i stopped wow now no cappi tho

[desert tendon]

zeross a dickhead

let s not cap here please

only fax

[red zinc]

improved my life frfr

[dense bolt]

take that back !

[proven ocean]

Rem
[GIGA]
— 9:21 PM
take that back !

[desert tendon]

Zeross
[OSRS]
— 19:21
Rem
[GIGA]
— 9:21 PM
take that back !

[dense bolt]

Censi - #1 Ramfam fan — 7:21 PM
Zeross
[OSRS]
— 19:21
Rem
[GIGA]
— 9:21 PM
take that back !

[dense bolt]

[red zinc]

ok 😃 👍

[desert tendon]

9pm

you such in the futur

wtfwtf

[proven ocean]

ye careful theres an asteroid on top of ur house at 9:21

[desert tendon]

that s why zeross build so good

he get new techs before us

[proven ocean]

fr fr

[desert tendon]

fr fr

no 👲

[proven ocean]

no 👲

[desert tendon]

wtf

[dense bolt]

when in doubt call zeross

[desert tendon]

is this emoji

[dense bolt]

i have his number

btw

[proven ocean]

Rem
[GIGA]
— 9:22 PM
i have his number
btw

[red zinc]

[proven ocean]

guiys guys

if u live in the future

that means

like

[desert tendon]

i have his bank account under my control

[proven ocean]

i can tell u how u can win the lottery

[dense bolt]

u a millinaire or?

[proven ocean]

like

bitcoin prices are dropping in france at 9 pm censi

ok

so make sure u sell them now

[desert tendon]

zero

btc is dead

lately

nuu growing

[proven ocean]

ah

[desert tendon]

nuu downing

just

[proven ocean]

wtf is nuu

[desert tendon]

standing still

[proven ocean]

no idea i dont do crypto stuff

[desert tendon]

HOWEVER

got into a new currency rn

it s stonking

ez

[proven ocean]

sheeeeesh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255110288081162311/1318256041112109106/catnum-cat-nom.gif

https://tenor.com/view/cat-water-gif-19744162

[desert tendon]

i can get you all the coffee you want

[proven ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1379273688616013984.webp?size=96&animated=true

[proven ocean]

nicey wicey

man

idk

[red zinc]

idk twin im just getting 500k and putting it all on red

[dense bolt]

Zeross btw

[formal echo]

is the rotation too hard for outlaw or what is the consensus?

[red zinc]

easy millionaire

[dense bolt]

U are the frontline

For tierlist

Today

[proven ocean]

what

where

how

[dense bolt]

Max

[desert tendon]

who

[dense bolt]

Community tierlist

[desert tendon]

my dream

[dense bolt]

U are gonna yapp

[desert tendon]

max calls zero

[dense bolt]

Heard all around the world

[proven ocean]

oh shit

[desert tendon]

for his tierlist

[proven ocean]

i yap

ok

[red zinc]

wait who is actually going to talk to him

for rogue

[desert tendon]

my fream for real

dream

[proven ocean]

i go talk

with 5 redbulls

ok

[desert tendon]

dude gonna be eminem

[red zinc]

genuinely curious who he got

if he got anyone even

[rare moth]

Just got these at lvl 12, when exactly do you use them?

[dense bolt]

Emiross

[proven ocean]

usually guy

[frail veldt]

Last time it was guy

[proven ocean]

i think

[desert tendon]

probably whisp

as always

[proven ocean]

nah usually guy

[desert tendon]

guy if available

[proven ocean]

with max its always guy

[frail veldt]

Just keep leveling

[red zinc]

slide into his dms ross

[proven ocean]

i think

[frail veldt]

Press them when they light up

[red zinc]

you reflect the degenerate nature of this spec pretty well

[desert tendon]

zero i can vouch for you

if u want

i know max personally

dwdw

[proven ocean]

[frail veldt]

Pls no

[proven ocean]

im good im good no need

[frail veldt]

I don't want zeross

[red zinc]

i do

[desert tendon]

dude

we do

[proven ocean]

we dont want u tho mewo

right chat?

[red zinc]

nobody playing outlaw after that one

[desert tendon]

u dont know that you want it so bad

[frail veldt]

I'd do better than you nocap

[proven ocean]

see mewo

[red zinc]

im #1 gatekeeper

[proven ocean]

noob

[desert tendon]

ok i ll throw mewo then

[proven ocean]

everyone with me now mewo

[desert tendon]

fk zero

go mewo

[proven ocean]

??????????????

[rare moth]

That doesn't answer my question

[proven ocean]

wtf

censi!

[rare moth]

I'm learning as I level, I just wanna know the conditions

[frail veldt]

If you're level 12 there's no rotational rules for that point in the game

Because the spec is incomplete

So just press it when it lifts up

[desert tendon]

it s really hard to tell you uni, cause pistol shot has usage with multiple procs that you ll get way way later

[proven ocean]

i think outlaw is hard for everyone early on even if ur the best wow player in the game

[frail veldt]

And keep leveling

[proven ocean]

just needs some time to get used to

thats the difficulty of outlaw

getting used to it

very fast gameplay

adjusting on the rng

[desert tendon]

for now you can press pistol shot only in range, and it s not even worth it

[proven ocean]

reacting

etc

[rare moth]

Faster than fire mage?

[covert heart]

It took me about 48 hrs of gameplay to actually feel remotely comfortable

[frail veldt]

Yes

[proven ocean]

way more random than fire mage and faster yes

[desert tendon]

fire mage is fake

[proven ocean]

firemage is rather easy

[frail veldt]

Outlaw is the highest apm in the game

[desert tendon]

it s 2 buttons

[rare moth]

Well Im doomed -is a fire mage

[desert tendon]

with 1 offgcd

[proven ocean]

its the same tho as fire mage

i can explain

if u want

[desert tendon]

to me fire mage is fake apm

[rare moth]

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-im-in-danger-ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-gif-14149962

[dense bolt]

dont scare away new players !!

[rare moth]

Do it

[gaunt phoenix]

build combo points with pistol shot when it procs. the proc is called opportunity. im not sure if you have the proc at level 12

sinister strike has a chance to proc opportunity

kick is an interrupt

feint is defensive utility

[desert tendon]

meanwhile outlaw is multiples buttons and no offgcd, but ghostly strike

[proven ocean]

cp (combopoints) builders are like fireballs they have a chance at giving u a hotstreak (extra combo points)

however

bladeflurry in aoe is like fireblast

guaranteed full cp in aoe

so basically

[dense bolt]

honestly everyone can build and spend on outlaw

doing it opitmally

is hard

v hard

[proven ocean]

u get randomly random pyroblast procs (back to back)

(ace up your sleeves)

[desert tendon]

doing it optimally 99+% of the time is hard

[proven ocean]

between the eyes is basically ur pyroblast button

[desert tendon]

zeross that s totally cooked

[proven ocean]

thats what ur gonna be spamming the most

[rare moth]

😭 Why do they hate yall so much

[frank finch]

im waiting for the shadow meld pot sims its been over an hour !!!!!!!!!!!!

[proven ocean]

its easy to react to once u get used to it

(it'll take you 3 months) aaaaaaa

xdd

[rare moth]

Im used to fire mage, and I've played some arcane....Is there like

A version of barrage helper for rogues?

[proven ocean]

arcane is same as sub rogue

scripted cds

scripted opener

[rare moth]

Arcane is big brain

[proven ocean]

sub was big brain too

until they removed dust

[rare moth]

So y'all fight RNG in outlaw like maniacs, thats insane

[proven ocean]

now its just scripted and giga easy

sub is super easy but

[rare moth]

Do y'all wish outlaw didn't have RNG?

[proven ocean]

hardest part of sub is knowing all the minmaxes

[proven ocean]

idk

do we?

well

yea

i mean

s3 DF had a good tier set that gave us extra rtb buff

which negated bad rng abit

was nice

[gaunt phoenix]

there are low points sometimes

[proven ocean]

we liked that

[formal echo]

!addons

[gaunt phoenix]

damage RNG is good, gameplay RNG where you get so fucked you just sit there and idle is not

[proven ocean]

i think less randomness in current outlaw is good

[random stirrup]

If there was no proc rng at all it would be a bit samey

[grim spear]

i hope we have good RNGs

[proven ocean]

if they reduce that im more than happy but idk maybe ask zac cuz i dont play outlaw as much

hes the one whos gonna give u an answer on how outlaw should feel

[random stirrup]

The low lows suck though

[rare moth]

Who is zac

[covert heart]

Our lord and savior outlaw player

[slate forge]

New jpc

[gaunt phoenix]

#1 outlaw world zac aka tomelvis !

[proven ocean]

think of like john wick but in outlaw, someone who only plays outlaw and nothing else

like

yea

[gentle sky]

is there wa way to track whit sound or something when your get a unseen blade prock from 2 set ?

[rare moth]

Yes guys, I understand he's our preheat but idk who he is here on discord lmao

[gaunt phoenix]

@vivid vessel

[slate forge]

@vivid vessel

[rare moth]

Oh no

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel

[rare moth]

The pinging

[proven ocean]

he doesnt bite

idk if mage discord is cringe

but

here we can ping any1 np

[rare moth]

Its not and it is, it depends who you talk to

[proven ocean]

except devs ofc dont do that

[gaunt phoenix]

what possessed you to play outlaw?

over the hero class mage

[proven ocean]

possessed

[frank finch]

might be the best coment u have ever made

[rare moth]

They don't mind new players, but if you ask "stupid" questions, they'll bully you for not knowing

[proven ocean]

ah classic sin channel reactions to new players

nah we dont have that here in outlaw

we chill

[covert heart]

Def if you wanna play outlaw i def recommend reading everything they have in the faq

It helps alot

[proven ocean]

if u have any sin/sub questions come to me

outlaw questions go to zac

[rare moth]

When I had a rogue in classic, I played "combat" so its the spec I remember. I also play fire mage so I thought I'd play something similar and I really like the outlaw campaign in legion

[covert heart]

Solo is a good source of info as well

[proven ocean]

but uni keep in mind like

[formal echo]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[gaunt phoenix]

fire mage is really similar

[proven ocean]

ya solo knows better than zac in outlaw prob

technically that is

[formal echo]

only reason im using outlaw is becouse i like the Grappling hook

[gaunt phoenix]

well

[slate forge]

Solo for brain Zac for vibes

[gaunt phoenix]

i play sim and zac plays game

[red zinc]

me for tax evasion tips

[gaunt phoenix]

you need both

[proven ocean]

uni keep in mind that mage has better connections with wow devs

[covert heart]

Solo is the like the shooting coach for basketball players

[proven ocean]

they get better treatments

mages always gets reworked every tier which is really good

u need to be aware that we barely get that

if we get changes they're usually bad or good

rng

[rare moth]

If I show you my mage bar, would you be able to help me later on (at 80 ofc) set up the rogue in a similar way? So I don't fuck up my muscle memory too much?

[proven ocean]

mage is always good changes

so ye

[proven ocean]

true

i dont sim but i play game too but for sin/sub

[covert heart]

@rare moth you will also prob get really frustrated at first just gotta work through it

[gaunt phoenix]

hmm im not sure i want to be the arbiter of keybinds

[rare moth]

💀 Don't remind me, we really need a bot in our discord for every time someone asks about "Which spec new season"

[hybrid crown]

I would for sure move kick to something other than 4

[proven ocean]

i think i can help you with keybinds and knowing how to swap between classes from mage to rogue very well

[vital wave]

Are you doing sim for sub or all spec ?

[proven ocean]

out of all things im bad at, im good at this

[rare moth]

I cried learning arcane because I was dumb enough to not use the barrage helper correctly and I tried memorizing every condition

Outlaw can't break me >:3

[gaunt phoenix]

I know jack shit about sin or sub and never will

[covert heart]

Good good, those other specs aren't real

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[proven ocean]

fk other specs

outlaw only

[rare moth]

My guy, I manage 1 cooldown as a fire mage and cycle between 4 spells

Lemme show you this nonsense

[proven ocean]

oops

[gaunt phoenix]

outlaw prolly has a few more binds

[craggy quiver]

Does one button rotation work on fire

Lol

[rare moth]

This is my bar

[proven ocean]

pistol goes boom boom boom 手槍砰砰砰 infinite power無限的力量great shame for family對家人來說是極大的恥辱banned by heavenly decree被天命所禁止would do it again會再做

[rare moth]

If you want to lose dps, yes, the 2 second delay is atrocious for fire

[craggy quiver]

Best one week of outlaw

[proven ocean]

i was in the military

couldnt play it

dark times

that was the only week i wanted to play outlaw the most no cappi

[vivid vessel]

guysss

[rare moth]

But yea I basically 53T and cycle between 3 hit my 6 and 3 and then if I have room to do it cuz I did it so fast....4 and spam 2

[willow portal]

how much will a parse be influenced by rng? Difference between 50-80 or more 60-70?

[rare moth]

Hi friend

[grim spear]

whats this

[rare moth]

I heard you're the guru for outlaw

[proven ocean]

only outlaw legends know what it means

outlaw was downbad

[craggy quiver]

Did someone actually get banned

[proven ocean]

it happened during a dark aged era

[gaunt phoenix]

hard to say, depends on fight length

on short fights you can get rng screwed

[craggy quiver]

I heard about it but never saw anyone actually got banned lol

[proven ocean]

the critter bug that made outlaw do 2x dps of everyone

nah

no one got banned

its all fake

[craggy quiver]

That's what I thought

[proven ocean]

blizzard never bans on abusing dps bugs

legit never

[pastel sierra]

I didnt play the game that day

[proven ocean]

they say they do

[pastel sierra]

So sad

[proven ocean]

but they never do

[vivid vessel]

idk i just play outlaw you know

[covert heart]

@vivid vessel are we barack?

[balmy topaz]

How’s st not natty rolling 5/6 buffs

[teal wing]

baracko barner

[willow portal]

if i drop ar but still got vanish charges, should i still use them?

[gentle sky]

is kir just sending GS or do i hold if for when your low on CP?

[rare moth]

How similar is fire to outlaw :3

[gaunt phoenix]

just send it

[gaunt phoenix]

No wait for AR

[gentle sky]

is it bad to macro it or ?

[white marten]

Fire can actually funnel

[gaunt phoenix]

it's fine

[willow portal]

if i am close to capping surely i send one right

[slate forge]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[gaunt phoenix]

you can but being at 2 charges of vanish and losing AR basically does not happen unless you die

or ya fucked up

[willow portal]

is gs off gcd?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[willow portal]

oh damn

[willow portal]

wel

2 weeks of having my rogue on 80 and only having played tanks until now will do that

[proven ocean]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/season-3-enemy-health-and-damage-adjustments-for-mythic-0s-mythic-and-delves-377975

oh

wow

interesting changes

[willow portal]

wait can we do tazavesh hardmode for better gear?

[pliant wind]

wowers

[grim spear]

until 2nd week no

we cant do taz in the first week

[vivid vessel]

ye its a fast paced spec with procs

[gentle sky]

why dont i se anyone recomanding to use a macro to change the @name on a nother macro for Trikes ?

[vivid vessel]

fire is prolly the closest spec

[daring oxide]

im so sorry senpai for posting details ss, i categorically apologise for the huge offense and harm I have caused to your sensitive soul

[vivid vessel]

enhance also

but enhance is slow

in term of mobility

outlaw is super mobile

[pliant wind]

fire is funny its gonna be my alt or main i still dont know, they got nerfed

[craggy quiver]

Can u chain while using KS?

[rare moth]

is it as random rng as people say? Is the rng bad?

[craggy quiver]

New ks

[rare moth]

Cuz for me, fire has no rng

[vivid vessel]

well

[pliant wind]

i dont see a lot of rng on fire tbh

[vivid vessel]

the rng can be bad yes

[pliant wind]

RtB is more rng

[vivid vessel]

outlaw has very low lows

but its also what makes outlaw interesting

[pliant wind]

yeah

[vivid vessel]

cause your rotation is always evolving

never the same

[rare moth]

I mean unless you have double hypothermia in fire. You get real lucky if you get that

[rare moth]

Wdym by never the same?

[fathom bramble]

almost everything has a proc associated with it

there isn't any window of casting a specific sequence of spells

[proven ocean]

[fathom bramble]

unlike some other specs where you might be able to do a burst window roughly the same everytime or have a consistent opener

outlaw has neither of these things since something random will always be a bit different each time

[rare moth]

😭 So its quick thinking on your feet, oh boy

[fathom bramble]

yes

you are often reacting to things within 1 global

[rare moth]

Good thing I'm a world content player, plenty of time to practice

And delves

Delves will help too

[hybrid crown]

Try to practice keeping adrenaline rush up as long as you can by getting into stealth between killing stuff

It's a blast to play once you figure it out

[hallow crow]

someone have the aura or macro for switch weapon on keys?

[hybrid crown]

!cudgel

Uhh

[gaunt phoenix]

!weaponswap

[ornate heath]

You can swap most weapons in keys. Outlaw swaps between the Nightfall event weapon for trash and a better offhand for bosses, such as Capo (change the name):

/equipslot 17 Nightfall Curseblade's Cudgel
/equipslot 17 Capo's Molten Knuckles```
If your offhand is the same name as your mainhand or you have two of them in your bags, then the above macro won't work, you have to swap by bag slot:
```#showtooltip 17
/equipslot 17 Nightfall Curseblade's Cudgel
/equipslot 17 <bag #> <bag slot #>```
Note that **Gallywix's Iron Thumb** cannot be swapped in keys.

[hallow crow]

and about enchant , u use the rad for bosses too or other?

i mean the one who u will change

[glass mortar]

unscripted

outlaw might have the fewest scripted gcds in the game tbh

[gaunt phoenix]

i still use rad, most bosses have some aoe

[glass mortar]

a majority of our gcds our next button press is between 2-3 buttons depending on procs

[gaunt phoenix]

tho it prolly doesnt matter much

[hallow crow]

fuunnel yea ?

[glass mortar]

this season was kinda nice using cudgel cause u could put a ST enchant on ur swap weapon tbh

gunna miss that

[proven ocean]

i mean idk

[rare moth]

So how the heck are people ever good at outlaw if its unhinged???

[pliant wind]

u can do it

with another weapon anyway

:-)

[glass mortar]

sure once u get 3 weapons...

[pliant wind]

yeah

hihi

[covert heart]

Many hours of practice

[rapid phoenix]

so ks

[covert heart]

And getting use to the flow

[rapid phoenix]

im sure this has been awnsered

do we cancel it now still or no?

[glass mortar]

still a gain to do

very minor tho

official rules will be out on patch day probably

[grim spear]

whats this spell?

[glass mortar]

ghostly strike

zac changes the tooltip cause he doesnt like it

[grim spear]

o...

[rare moth]

So you have a high apm, you have rng, Im never complaining about fire again

[pliant wind]

just fun

[covert heart]

Its alot of fun once you get the groove

I hated it and quit it like 3 times before it finally stuck

[glass mortar]

fire isnt that far off, it tends to have more determanistic windows (basically every burst window) and longer time to react to procs tho

given most of ur proc reaction is pressing an ogcd (FB) so you can press it at anytime in the cast/gcd

[gaunt phoenix]

that's a weasel

[gaunt phoenix]

For kir it seems neutral/about the same dps as letting it finish

but i think it's easier to react to the cps instead of reacting to the ending animation

so you dont delay your next gcd as much

ykwim

[fair oak]

Dude that's how I play outlaw ngl

Almost no idea when I press ss or ambush

I just look at cp bar

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[glass mortar]

well normally u can just follow the nonchanging flow of the gcd

kspree makes it awkward because u cant spellqueue off it

and u cant press a button on the gcd to make sure theres no gaps

channels r always cringe like this and channels r kinda cringe in high apm gcd locked specs in general ngl

[true cedar]

ngl if you have more mastery it gets easier to spellq things

[glass mortar]

u mean if u have less haste

mastery has no impact on that

[true cedar]

ok but im not wrong

[glass mortar]

u could be if u gave up other stats for mastery

[true cedar]

NONONONONO

[glass mortar]

i promise u if u moved ur 20k vers into mastery spellqueuing would be just as hard

[balmy topaz]

Main gauche enjoyer

[glass mortar]

💅

instructions unclear

[dawn talon]

end of season is so sad

[true cedar]

average haste enjoyer

[dawn talon]

i want to play the game but i do not want to do pug keys

[gaunt phoenix]

with infinite mastery you are less punished by fucking up globals

[glass mortar]

nobody is enjoying haste

[gaunt phoenix]

[glass mortar]

more like haste holds us hostage

shareholder tax on our spec

[true cedar]

THANK YOU.

[fathom bramble]

there should probably be a setting for queue window at the end of a channel just in general

[balmy topaz]

Spell queuing is easy for me isn’t that right @gaunt phoenix

[vivid vessel]

guyyyyyyss

[fathom bramble]

channels that can be canceled are so janky without proper spellqueueing

[balmy topaz]

Zacccccc

[true cedar]

zac is my favorite pokemon

[glass mortar]

i was gunna say would it be so awful if they added a setting u could turn on or off that made it so if u pressed a ability in the last 10% of a channel it would not cancel and would queue up instead

[dawn talon]

i think the game should give you a little tutorial on what spellqueue even is and then give you options to finetune it

[mighty pivot]

look at that tail

[glass mortar]

i feel like they could definitly do somehting like this

[vivid vessel]

guys

[glass mortar]

maybe it would be too awkward tho

[vivid vessel]

imagine if ks was quicker thooo

..

would be crazyyy

[balmy topaz]

Woah

[true cedar]

[proven ocean]

imagine if ks was quicker thooo
..
would be crazyyy

[balmy topaz]

That’s never been recommend

By anyone

[glass mortar]

blizzard doesnt want people changing it tho

[proven ocean]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

weran

i

[glass mortar]

this used to be a setting in ur settings menu people would toy with

[proven ocean]

miss

you

cuh

no

'cappi

!

alert alert

[glass mortar]

blizzard took it away and hid it because they thought everyone should use 400

[dawn talon]

because people don't understand

[mighty pivot]

imagine if you pressed an ability and it went to your target

[proven ocean]

where is ur daily arguement yap weran

[glass mortar]

we are lucky they even let us change it with commands tbh

[proven ocean]

??

!1

[fathom bramble]

people misunderstand it and brick their entire rotation by changing it

[true cedar]

make it a mastery passiv. more mastery the faster the anim for ks

[proven ocean]

weran u know what

[fathom bramble]

I can see why blizz hid it

[proven ocean]

ur wrong

[glass mortar]

theres also so much misinfo on it

[fathom bramble]

blizzard should probably have had an in game explanation instead though

[glass mortar]

like how many videos have been linked in here of random content creators saying "if you spellqueue an ability it cant be replaced"

[fathom bramble]

or something

[glass mortar]

when thats not how spellqueue works and it would be pointless if it did

[fathom bramble]

to be fair spellqueuewindow use to work like that

but it's been like 10 years

or longer

[glass mortar]

way longer

it didnt even work like that in cata

[fathom bramble]

idk 15 years

something

[dawn talon]

closer to 15 no?

[glass mortar]

idr when it did work like that

yea

[dawn talon]

like i was a little kid

when it worked like that

[glass mortar]

but these are not old videos

these are like, shadowlands and later videos

people just have no idea

[fathom bramble]

yeah nvm

it's been too long for it to be acceptable

[dawn talon]

weran you know how many wow players like to pretend it's still 2009

[wide flare]

been checkingsome sims for next season, why are we playing KS with Fatebound talents?

[dawn talon]

HAHAHHA

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah

[glass mortar]

because ks is so strong now every build plays it

[gaunt phoenix]

err

[dawn talon]

ks does a trillion damage

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah it's just good

[glass mortar]

it got buffed like 18 times on ptr

and its competing with pretty minor talents

[wide flare]

makes sense, thanks!

[glass mortar]

alot of talents in that area are like 2-3% dps gains

and interchangable

[frail veldt]

hate this shit lol

[dawn talon]

just in general though

everry technical aspect of the game

has 100000 youtube videos just completely misunderstanding it

which is strange because wow has some of the highest quality resources on the internet for people who want to get involved in tcing and such

they just legit don't do any research and peddle garbage misinformation for fun

[sudden fulcrum]

it's really just a clickbait technique because many people want to believe that there is some setting they can change to easily gain dps

[mighty pivot]

you don't need to have the correct information to get views

[frail veldt]

truuuuuu

[proven ocean]

@frail veldt

sup

mewo

i wanna sleep

np?

[frail veldt]

np?

[glass mortar]

go to bed

[frail veldt]

go to bed bro

[proven ocean]

wtf u want to get rid of me??!?!

i always knew u hated me

thats it mewo

we're no longer together

!

[glass mortar]

!mute zeross 8h

go sleep

bozo

[proven ocean]

what the helly

u know im unemployed yet right

[timber knoll]

Do we know which trinkets gonna go hard?

[proven ocean]

very soon tho

[glass mortar]

we know at least one of them

and its the fun one so i hope they dont nerf it

[proven ocean]

@glass mortar

idk if i told u

i got inferno last week

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah

[proven ocean]

too ez no cappi

[glass mortar]

njnj

[proven ocean]

didnt know inferno that ez?????????????

[glass mortar]

whats ur next goal

[proven ocean]

weran??

[frail veldt]

bet

[timber knoll]

Which ones

[proven ocean]

idk

[glass mortar]

idk im like level 20 in osrs im still playing rs3

[timber knoll]

I’m calling dibs

[proven ocean]

i want to get 126 now

working on max combat rn

[silver sluice]

Sac getting buffed is big? Or will it still be uhhh the nether prism and that crown one.

[proven ocean]

(this is outlaw hidden data i promise)

its on topic ok!

@glass mortar but ye my next goal is raids

[gaunt phoenix]

right now it seems sigil of the cosmic hunt and astra antenna are basically the bis combination everywhere

other than that, there a bunch of close trinkets, like arakara, pacemaker, netherprism, warpclaw

[gentle sky]

if i hade only mastery on my items is Main Gauche ever good ?

[proven ocean]

u wont do tank dps if thats what ur asking

its not good tho just trust the sims

[proven ocean]

ah well, if u go full mastery u wont have enough haste to do dps

then ye it wont be good in that case at all

[glass mortar]

not sure what the question means, but mastery is not a good stat to have alot of

[proven ocean]

its ok to have a few that are unavoidable

[desert tendon]

Anyone here like zeross ?

[glass mortar]

its not like itll make u unplayable you'll just do less damage then other stats would

[desert tendon]

No?

[proven ocean]

no

[desert tendon]

Noone?

Good

[proven ocean]

???

censi

wtf

[desert tendon]

[proven ocean]

i thought u liked me censi what the cow

thats it censi

im breaking up with you

[dawn talon]

zeross has to be top 3 funniest outlaw chatters

[desert tendon]

OK good

[dawn talon]

plus

[frail veldt]

having more mastery does not make mastery better

[desert tendon]

Finally freed

[frail veldt]

it scales linearly

[dawn talon]

when zeross is typing

[desert tendon]

Mewo

[gentle sky]

in Mist remix it did realy good dps XD

[dawn talon]

it doesn't look like i type 100000 messages

[desert tendon]

Max gonna call u

[dawn talon]

bc zeross types 5x as much

[proven ocean]

MEWO??????????????

[frail veldt]

LOL

wait what

[desert tendon]

Prep for yapping

[glass mortar]

in mists remix mastery sources gave like 3X the mastery of other secondaries

[frail veldt]

aite im ready

[desert tendon]

Yep

[proven ocean]

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

oops

[frail veldt]

put me in coach

[desert tendon]

Gace him your dc

[glass mortar]

because blizzard reasons

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-water-gif-19744162

[frail veldt]

sick

[proven ocean]

mewo

do u drink water lioke this cat

or

[desert tendon]

I told him

[gaunt phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-water-gif-19744162

[desert tendon]

As good as outlaw than at showing fingers

[frail veldt]

do you not?

censi just cant forget my hands

[proven ocean]

this one's for u mewo

!

[desert tendon]

Yes i cant

[frail veldt]

rofl

[desert tendon]

Too hot paws

[frail veldt]

its all that outlaw apm

[proven ocean]

wait

bizentein is playing osrs

[desert tendon]

Mewot paws

Biz

I liked biz when i was à wow player

Hé was à good GM

[wicked verge]

What’s the spec play for S3 @proven ocean? I assume you’ll probably just keep sets for all of them ready but curious what you’ll start out playing.

[gaunt phoenix]

Sin is cranking ass rn

[proven ocean]

i wont be playing s3, but if i had to choose one it'll be sin for sure

[desert tendon]

Probably arcane mage

Or Fire mage

[proven ocean]

sin is super strong atm

nah sin is stronger than mage i think censi

[desert tendon]

Maybe frost mage even

[proven ocean]

its in the god comp rn

its genuinely op

[frail veldt]

when you say wont b eplaying

do you just mean only playing 3 hours a day?

[proven ocean]

0 hours a monht

[desert tendon]

Yea OK i bet a mcdonalds franchise on assa not being meta

[proven ocean]

month

[frail veldt]

oh no shot

where are you going

[proven ocean]

maybe 3 hrs a month for some casual trading post stuff and things

[gaunt phoenix]

freedom

[proven ocean]

moving on with life

so

[frail veldt]

no shot

[proven ocean]

ya

[desert tendon]

Well solo

[frail veldt]

proud of you

[desert tendon]

Hé ll still be in discord

Sadly

[proven ocean]

ty cuh

[gaunt phoenix]

freedom to play osrs

[proven ocean]

?????????????????

?!?!?!

[frail veldt]

I quit wow while I was in school

[desert tendon]

[proven ocean]

what the cow

guys

im thirsty

1 sec

[frail veldt]

it was the correct decision

[desert tendon]

Ragebaiting zero is à child play

[proven ocean]

u can tell censi doesnt play wow anymore when hes back on his french letters

[desert tendon]

Im on phone

Idk why

[proven ocean]

ah

u never log wow again or

[desert tendon]

It s adding stuff

Never

At least not the whole next expac

[proven ocean]

im playing osrs maybe u should try it too

its nice

u can just chill do anything logout and continue where u left off

[desert tendon]

I m waiting for mgs3 remake

[proven ocean]

no rush in anything

[desert tendon]

End of this month

[proven ocean]

like at all

its noob friendly game

like

skill ceiling of osrs is giga low

[desert tendon]

I aint no noob

[proven ocean]

like

[desert tendon]

U noob

[proven ocean]

hc raids in wow is like

the hardest thing in osrs

that easy

[desert tendon]

Hc is hard

D:

[proven ocean]

well ye it is hard but

like

they only have 1 challenge which is the inferno

its as hard as week 1 mage tower

kinda

or rather 1st month mage tower since the newer gear makes it a joke kinda

[desert tendon]

Zero

Max will call u as well

To talk about ret

[proven ocean]

ret!

ok

my speciality

no cappi

i'll talk about how i feel about them in season 2

and pretend that its how it works in s3

u thhink it'll work out?

[desert tendon]

Fk rets

[frail veldt]

is max doing that stream today?

[desert tendon]

[frail veldt]

I gotta remember to tune in

[proven ocean]

idk but i wont be watching it

[desert tendon]

Idk mewo i m just baiting

I dont follow anything wow related

[frail veldt]

yeah im just wondering when its gona be cuz he usually does one