Work culture is way different
#outlaw
late swallow
craggy barn
thats how he has so much wow time
desert tendon
is outlaw buffs
tropic zephyr
I feel like even when I had no job I didn't play as much and all I did was wow
desert tendon
wintry solar
Literally no one warns you about that part of adulthood.
tropic zephyr
I'm a baguette too
vivid vessel
thats a skill issue
tropic zephyr
vivid vessel
Work culture is way different
i come hom at 19h and i play
thats all
its not like i was off from work at 14h
late swallow
i come hom at 19h and i play
Damn why so late
craggy barn
dont forget u get a french tacos to go
vivid vessel
because
late swallow
7 pm??
vivid vessel
france
wintry solar
That's 7pm for the uninitiated
vivid vessel
thats just france
hardy thicket
wtf
vivid vessel
you acting like we are some lazy mfs
late swallow
I’m home at like 4-5
vivid vessel
ye
hardy thicket
so u begin at 10 am right
desert tendon
no
hardy thicket
desert tendon
frail veldt
I mean everything tbh, parents/grandparents get old and need more help, you sleep more cuz youre just more tired and/or you care about your health more, you start to eat better and want to spend less on eating out so you cook more so you end up cleaning more etc etc
vivid vessel
no one in france get home at 4 
wintry solar
Zac works at the French taco factory
frail veldt
its just how it goes
hardy thicket
sounds awful yo
vivid vessel
I mean everything tbh, parents/grandparents get old and need more help, you slee...
ye ok everythjing you just said doesnt concern me
nice try tho
craggy barn
bro sounds like yall need to tevolution again to get home early
frail veldt
ye ok everythjing you just said doesnt concern me
it didnt when I was 25 either
late swallow
I mean everything tbh, parents/grandparents get old and need more help, you slee...
Based family appreciator
covert kestrel
I mean everything tbh, parents/grandparents get old and need more help, you slee...
adulthood is just deciding what to cook and doing dishes forever
vivid vessel
it wont
frail veldt
haha I mean it will when your body starts feeling like shit
late swallow
Mewo you know you’re alright
frail veldt
ty fam
wintry solar
I mean everything tbh, parents/grandparents get old and need more help, you slee...
And older relatives dying so you gotta help take care of their estate as well. That's what's happening to me at least.
frail veldt
yeah
desert tendon
mewo's hands are hot
frail veldt
its always something
desert tendon
just saying
desert tendon
vivid vessel
my parents arent perma taking care of my grandparents we arent a family like that idk
frail veldt
And older relatives dying so you gotta help take care of their estate as well. T...
yeah when youre older people just choose to rely on you for things more
they ask you to housesit
covert kestrel
hey i missed when people were posting their cats earlier, sorry just butting in here dont mind me
vivid vessel
they are grown people they take care of themselves
frail veldt
or watch their pet while theyre out of town
vivid vessel
yeah when youre older people just choose to rely on you for things more
you mean kids ?
i wont have kids
sudden fulcrum
desert tendon
what
red zinc
dude my grandma passed last year and while it obviously sucked, the whole estate business went fine until we got to the estate lawyer
vivid vessel
i dont get what you are yapping about mewo honestly
desert tendon
you prommessed me 5 kids zac
red zinc
what a useless dumbfuck
desert tendon
so we ll have a m+ team
sudden fulcrum
Do you like my dogs
red zinc
we’ve sent like 30 emails to that hoe
toxic star
frail veldt
you mean kids ?
no like other adults haha
frail veldt
I dont have kids
vivid vessel
i legit have no idea what you are talking about lol
frail veldt
im just saying I had BY FAR the most free time when I was in my mid 20s
vivid vessel
geniuly
red zinc
like my grandparents did fine on their own their whole life
Its a lil ignorant since most people don’t have that luxury
frail veldt
What game would you play if wow shut down @vivid vessel
wintry solar
Shit ngl sometimes I feel the most free when I was enlisted and out of training and schools.
sudden fulcrum
Is outlaw a cat channel
gaunt phoenix
Mrawr
sudden fulcrum
No one likes my dogs
vivid vessel
Its a lil ignorant since most people don’t have that luxury
Ok and if my parents aren't capable of taking care of themselves they will get in a home or pay a person helper people
desert tendon
i did muffin
vivid vessel
That's not how our family works idk
red zinc
wintry solar
No one likes my dogs
Yeah same thing happened to me eariler
desert tendon
gotta open facebook
vivid vessel
Both my parents lived far from theirs
glass mortar
i dont get what you are yapping about mewo honestly
U will
frail veldt
Is outlaw a cat channel
I have 3 dogs
vivid vessel
And same for everyone in my family
sudden fulcrum
I have 3 dogs
Show dogs
vivid vessel
He is talking about stuffs no one in my family did
late swallow
ohana means family, and family means that we live apart and don't take care of each other
vivid vessel
So it won't happen to me either
gaunt phoenix
i cant find the original point
desert tendon
FOR OLD CAT AND DOG
vivid vessel
ohana means family, and family means that we live apart and don't take care of e...
No, we see each other for like Christmas and birthdays and shit
wintry solar
ohana means family, and family means that we live apart and don't take care of e...
At what point in your life did you decide you wanted to start spitting ice?
vivid vessel
Idk what else you would need to do
desert tendon
they were already old as hell there
sudden fulcrum
So sleepy
frail veldt
vivid vessel
Like my family isn't like the ones in the American movies where they all live in the same house
Idk
desert tendon
dog had a cancer and cat had blood issues 😔
gaunt phoenix
censi, you seem to have posted the same animal twice
late swallow
Like my family isn't like the ones in the American movies where they all live in...
lmao no one does this in america
that's a way more euro thing to do
desert tendon
censi, you seem to have posted the same animal twice
late swallow
go to balkans or like poland and shit
desert tendon
it s a maine coon and an amstaff!
glass mortar
Who tf lives with their parents
wintry solar
dog had a cancer and cat had blood issues 😔
Damn bro. It might be the air.
glass mortar
Isn't that an eu thing
frail veldt
sudden fulcrum
Hell yeah dogs
vivid vessel
Who tf lives with their parents
Mewo idk
gaunt phoenix
look at that dawg
desert tendon
Damn bro. It might be the air.
there were really fusionnal, once the dog started to get sick, the cat just followed
that s love
😔
vivid vessel
well i still dont understand what you mean
glass mortar
R we dogposting
glass mortar
well i still dont understand what you mean
U dont but u will dw
vivid vessel
cause not a single member of my family does what you said
frail veldt
my grandma wants help grocery shopping cuz shes got a bad hip
vivid vessel
no
glass mortar
Father time always wins
frail veldt
so I help her grocery shop
vivid vessel
ye
frail veldt
and pick out fruit
vivid vessel
thats not something
wintry solar
that s love
Holy moly that blows. Sorry big dog.
desert tendon
that s my cat when i got it
vivid vessel
or does
frail veldt
but that was just one of the things
desert tendon
vivid vessel
and i wont ever do that lol
frail veldt
the other ones are mostly taking care of yourself better
so you dont end up being an old person that needs help
lol
vivid vessel
i will be living litteraly acrtoss the country for my parents
my parents will take care of themselves and if they cant they will pay a guy or i will pay a guy
frail veldt
wintry solar
Isn't that like a 45 minute drive?
late swallow
the other ones are mostly taking care of yourself better
mfs will hit their late 20s and be like "oh shit I actually have to stretch and move my body so I don't rot"
vivid vessel
they understand
sudden fulcrum
Good dogs plz pet for me
frail veldt
"okay see you in an hour"
toxic star
Isn't that like a 45 minute drive?
bro i wish
vivid vessel
Isn't that like a 45 minute drive?
prolly takes 2 days to drive from bottom to up idk
no one does that
glass mortar
desert tendon
ok are you ready for my old dog with his brother?
toxic star
prolly takes 2 days to drive from bottom to up idk
can do it in 1 for sure
vivid vessel
can do it in 1 for sure
are you french
toxic star
no, german, but p much same country "height"
frail veldt
prolly takes 2 days to drive from bottom to up idk
vivid vessel
I mean idk
frail veldt
cappppppppp
late swallow
i wanna live in the french alps or the pyrenees so bad it's unreal
frail veldt
happy boy
wintry solar
I see a 16 hour drive in Texas and go "I can make that" and still have time for activities
vivid vessel
sure i mean good luck driving 10 hour striaght buddy ]
wintry solar
Lightweight
gaunt phoenix
look at that dawg
frail veldt
sure i mean good luck driving 10 hour striaght buddy ]
brother im american
thats a commute
frail veldt
lolol I know I know
vivid vessel
and i wont do it either
i love my parents
i wont live for them tho
they take care of themselves
grown ass people
late swallow
i love my parents
probably the most based thing you said ngl
vivid vessel
if they are too old i just pay or they pay
late swallow
I kneel
frail veldt
its okay zac no ones asking you to lol
vivid vessel
to do my mom grocery
slate forge
sure i mean good luck driving 10 hour striaght buddy ]
American driving that 10+ times a year lol
sudden fulcrum
Everyone call your parents right meow and tell them you love them
frail veldt
American driving that 10+ times a year lol
thats what we call "vacation"
vivid vessel
American driving that 10+ times a year lol
ye look where that got them
craggy kelp
Who’s going to take care of Zac when his carpal tunnel kicks in
vivid vessel
Who’s going to take care of Zac when his carpal tunnel kicks in
no one
wintry solar
Everyone call your parents right meow and tell them you love them
I'm setting up a surprise cruise
vivid vessel
i wont have kids
craggy kelp
late swallow
zac will hire algerian house maids
vivid vessel
and i dont want people to have to do that
glass mortar
once hes too old to play outlaw he will simply cease to be
toxic star
Who’s going to take care of Zac when his carpal tunnel kicks in
tbf if it hasnt by now
think hes safe
sudden fulcrum
Zac won’t die he will simply vanish
vivid vessel
i hope i die before i need any help
craggy kelp
Real
slate forge
ye look where that got them
That’s why N.A. has no one on m+ too busy driving home
wintry solar
once hes too old to play outlaw he will simply cease to be
Ngl I got like 3 years left
glass mortar
same i feel it in my wrists
they r not long for this world
its all downhill from 30 i highly recommend not turning 30
wintry solar
I wouldn't have it any other way
hardy thicket
lel
glass mortar
beeeeach
desert tendon
i m lost on facebook
vivid vessel
facebo k
frail veldt
its all downhill from 30 i highly recommend not turning 30
I feel fine except for needing more sleep
frail veldt
but I also am abusing caffeine significantly less than when I was younger so it could just be a result of that
wintry solar
Facebook is where you go to have your feelings hurt
desert tendon
xD
frail veldt
labs LOVE swimming
gaunt phoenix
look at that dawg
toxic star
gaunt phoenix
that's no dawg
glass mortar
gunna pet that dawg
real dragon
hello. I just starting playing outlaw... Is there a reason to not macro bte and dispatch in the same button
glass mortar
it doesnt work at all is the reason
dim widget
they both cause gcd
frail veldt
hello. I just starting playing outlaw... Is there a reason to not macro bte and ...
you cant
glass mortar
macros cant do that
desert tendon
gosh it s been a while i havent seen these pictures, i miss them. anyway back on topic
craggy kelp
real dragon
Can't you do : cast bte-- if on cd cast dispatch??
glass mortar
macros cant check if something is on cd
if they could do that u could macro ur whole rotation to one button
real dragon
ohhh 😦
gaunt phoenix
no cooldown conditional
real dragon
Oh true lol
dim widget
even if you could, there is situations where you cast dispatch over bte
real dragon
Ok
gaunt phoenix
back to dawg
real dragon
tyty
sudden fulcrum
if they could do that u could macro ur whole rotation to one button
What kinda psycho would want a one button rotation???
real dragon
🙂
sudden fulcrum
wintry solar
What kinda psycho would want a one button rotation???
Df fury
glass mortar
one button rotation is only ok if its officialy endorsed by blizzard.tm
dim widget
What kinda psycho would want a one button rotation???
bm and ret
their speccs too complicated
violet ferry
We are so back
gaunt phoenix
Uwu
vivid vessel
:3
covert kestrel
wintry solar
OwO
dim widget
(was the only rogue he has even seen because so few play)
toxic star
(was a +8)
violet ferry
please, it was a timewalking
sudden fulcrum
(They just started playing WoW)
hybrid crown
Soulshift is actually zacs alt
mint lily
Selling personalized compliments, 10k gold a pop. Dm me
toxic star
timewalking darkflame cleft
real dragon
I was just farming tmog with that druid
he left to do something else 💔
that's what he was doing
cool
dim widget
he clearly couldnt stand that you gapped him
wintry solar
Damn, resident evil unironically has the best soundtrack of any video game franchise
gaunt phoenix
hm
real dragon
World of smallcraft
dim widget
idk, i think witcher and d2 are very goated, also runescape
violet ferry
I was just farming tmog with that druid
must be a different druid
covert heart
Diablo 2 has a crazy good soundtrack
real dragon
We are so back
oh noo to this
real dragon
Stupid
wintry solar
Why did you lie to us?
wintry solar
-1000 aura
mighty pivot
Desk cat is observing for any rotational mistakes
gaunt phoenix
look at that dawg
vivid vessel
thats not a dawg dog
covert kestrel
RIP hulk hogan 
gaunt phoenix
my cat does not get on the desk while i am home
but i know she does while i am gone
violet ferry
First Ozzy, then Hulk??
covert kestrel
First Ozzy, then Hulk??
80s legends taking hits man
ancient mural
can u not macro ghostly strike to between the eyes?
dim widget
clearly not due to crazy drug abuse
gaunt phoenix
you can
dim widget
that would be impossible
covert kestrel
can u not macro ghostly strike to between the eyes?
!macro
ornate heathBOT
Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.
wintry solar
gaunt phoenix
holy floofer
frank finch
My kitty is cuter
gaunt phoenix
so smol
dim widget
real dragon
Why did you lie to us?
I mas refering to the druid soulshift
gaunt phoenix
i think tang and soulshift are the same tho
covert kestrel
look at this lil soup dumpling
gaunt phoenix
tang is bnet name
violet ferry
yar, same person - we became friends after I uwu'd
covert kestrel
yar, same person - we became friends after I uwu'd
druids love that shit
gaunt phoenix
love that\
dim widget
gaunt phoenix
look at that dawg
violet ferry
druids love that shit
paper lily
coping there is tuning today
real dragon
my bad
gaunt phoenix
rip
real dragon
u.u
vivid vessel
rip
covert kestrel
coping there is tuning today
sorry we're not talking about law rn, were talking about cats and uwu. doing our best #feral impression
violet ferry
with a cover letter
real dragon
sorry I bring shame
paper lily
sorry we're not talking about law rn, were talking about cats and uwu. doing our...
haha
wintry solar
gaunt phoenix
dawg !
covert heart
I am so glad you are excited
vivid vessel
no ptr today
tropic zephyr
frank finch
😠
gaunt phoenix
wintry solar
Forehead kisses annoy her but frankly that's her problem. If she doesn't like forehead kisses she wouldn't have a small head.
violet ferry
paper lily
gaunt phoenix
dawg !
tropic zephyr
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/121880935951106048/1054693009918275604/...
that thrash mid air as he falls
kino
gaunt phoenix
dawgs
wintry solar
I have more photos of my fluffy cat posed on my duece and a half
gaunt phoenix
on your what
gaunt phoenix
i've never heard that phrase
wintry solar
wintry solar
It was her favorite thing to perch on
vivid vessel
you are american right
wintry solar
Yeah
vivid vessel
ye
violet ferry
is that a Tesla
vivid vessel
you have a monster truck in your backyard aswell ?
covert kestrel
ye
vivid vessel
or
quaint mauve
i had a nightmare about this class
wintry solar
Don't ever lump me in with those scum
glass mortar
the dream to be able to afford enough land so the doggos can run wild
thats what its all about
wintry solar
It really is
You can go outside every morning in your boxers and take your morning piss
violet ferry
America is just NYC, Los Angeles, or Texas
wintry solar
The freedom is immaculate
covert kestrel
since france is just paris
ew
violet ferry
Good point
covert kestrel
since france is just paris
i just wanna vibe in Nice, seems like a chill place
glass mortar
because PC exists
vivid vessel
i just wanna vibe in Nice, seems like a chill place
eh
dim parrot
Not allowed to beat uncapped specs at 8 target aoe ig
violet ferry
yeah, our capped AoE was getting too stronk, so we needed to be toned down to not make other classes feel bad
vivid vessel
ye i do think its a raid only thing
i wish there was serparate tuning
but this will happen everytime we play pc imo
covert kestrel
eh
whats the most chill french city/town in your opinion. like if you could move anywhere in the country
violet ferry
Quebec
dim parrot
LOL
alpine bough
la rochelle
vivid vessel
I think montpellier is cool
seems like a nice city to live in
you got trams and shit
and there isnt many cars if you stay around the center part kinda
if you like that
i like that
violet ferry
I thought all french rode vespas with a grocery bag and a baguette sticking out of it
like, that's the law
covert kestrel
yeah fuck cars
vivid vessel
ye so montpellier i guess
covert kestrel
public transit is da shit (i was 20 min late today cause the subways fucked me)
vivid vessel
it feels like a city from the future on that part
you take trams
and walk
its a vibe
its how i wanna live when im a grown up
no car
fervent garden
spent years in both NYC and London. London for the culture, NYC for the energy.
wintry solar
I take the duece to the bank
vivid vessel
Who
wintry solar
The truck
Kids love it too
I take it to the church on Halloween for hayrides and they go crazy
wintry solar
Frontier are you american?
fervent garden
holy shit thats me
covert kestrel
Frontier are you american?
yerr
covert kestrel
i dont have a car i live in nyc
wintry solar
No such thing as a traffic jam with this bad boy
white marten
Au revoir
wintry solar
Sometimes I want to take helicopter classes just for the convenience
But idk if my walmart would let me land it in their parking lot
covert kestrel
helicopters are death machines #ripkobe
covert kestrel
lmao
lmfao even
boe prices gonna be wild
prob good for outlaw since our stats are so whack
white marten
Glad we hate stats
carmine geode
Can I use evasion on Rik Reverb amplifier spawn?
frank finch
not anymore
glass mortar
its honestly not really dangerous on anything until OaB imo
altho u cant play it at all on sprocket (i assume ur doing mythic)
carmine geode
yeye on that I know thanks
glass mortar
u can mostly send on cd on these fights
might need to hold or cloak for it on cauldron if the timing is bad with beam
beam will murderize you even with the stagger and ur healing parse will look very funny
carmine geode
so only on bandit I should watchout for coins
glass mortar
watchout for coins watchout for baiting coins, watchout for bombs, in p3 you need the tick interval on kspree to be under 0.3s to avoid the beam 1 shotting you inside it
so during lust you are golden, outside lust might depend on ur haste
dim fern
is it worth swapping to a higher ilvl offhand instead of cudgel for ST if you dont have capos?
late swallow
i just wanna vibe in Nice, seems like a chill place
you just want to go on rides with matteo jorgenson, be honest now
covert kestrel
does anyone have a macro to meld and stealth in one click?
!meld
ornate heathBOT
Night Elf does sim as the best race for m+, however there is a few quirks you need to be aware of:
- you need to restealth after pressing meld to trigger subterfuge (there is a slight delay)
- you cannot restealth against any boss (raid or m+) and some special global combat mobs
- meld can break quite easily if you move or take damage
- it seems that you need to break your stealth with something else than BtE to benefit from crackshot
covert kestrel
i dont think that there is one that is one button, but i think people use a macro that they just spam
late swallow
everyone knows andorra is where it's at
covert kestrel
everyone knows andorra is where it's at
KUSS
late swallow
morning runs with patrick broe talking about visma strats
sonic rapids
i dont think that there is one that is one button, but i think people use a macr...
ok ty
mighty pivot
is it worth swapping to a higher ilvl offhand instead of cudgel for ST if you do...
yes
covert kestrel
Half the boes are boots that you probably wont equip
i love feet
red zinc
Feels strange though
To add must-equip boots (1% ish gain) and then make 3/4 armor classes have boot boe’s
sudden fulcrum
late swallow
vivid vessel
To add must-equip boots (1% ish gain) and then make 3/4 armor classes have boot ...
the leather boes are foots ?
it was foot this tier
no way right
sudden fulcrum
I hope they show Dimensius’s void feet
late swallow
I hope they show Dimensius’s void feet
covert kestrel
the leather boes are foots ?
chest belt and feet?
red zinc
They always do that i feel
vivid vessel
ye maybe
red zinc
hello 
mint summit
in terms of dps, is better the peacemaker m or an house of chards hero?
i can get it from the chips
gaunt phoenix
pacemaker
sudden fulcrum
mint summit
@sudden fulcrum i don't wanna sped chips in something that is usefull and sim myself 😄
that's why i was asking
actually what can i invest for since my equip?
sudden fulcrum
You can sim items you don’t have
Search box at the top of top gear
Can also use droptimizer
mint summit
You can sim items you don’t have
that's a thing <.<
covert kestrel
or all dinars in droptimizer
gaunt phoenix
in Top Gear you can search and add any item to your bags
gaunt phoenix
actually what can i invest for since my equip?
not much, mythic magnet would be nice
if not then mythic wax whistle
fading coral
I asked a friend for some help with the rotation (who may or may not have some rather outdated info) and told me that it's fine to use a dagger for offhand, that true?
sudden fulcrum
!oh
ornate heathBOT
A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more 
Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, 
Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.
gaunt phoenix
it is true
fading coral
late swallow
!kir
ornate heathBOT
KIR build compared to 
HO:
- doesn't use ambush, uses the same builder priority inside and outside of stealth
- is more cp efficient with pistol shot usage (see faq)
- has to use KIR itself as soon as you hit 4 buffs from RTB/CTO
- has an additional reroll logic after pressing KIR (see faq)
- is more punishing if you mess up builder priority at a given moment
- needs 19% haste from rating to reach 25% during adrenaline rush after alacrity
- KIR 1 FTH really likes trickster optimizations, like prioritizing SS when unseen blades are guaranteed (see faq)
late swallow
haha kir has a command and ho doesn't
late swallow
ho shitters stay pissing their diapers
wintry solar
Kir losers gotta announce to others they play kir
sudden fulcrum
Imagine if you had a WA announcing when KIR is up like combustion
wintry solar
They're the type to scan other people's reaction after they say a joke to make sure it's valid
covert kestrel
Kir losers gotta announce to others they play kir
KiR players kiss their homies goodnight 👨❤️💋👨
bitter schooner
Imagine if you had a WA announcing when KIR is up like combustion
I'M ROLLING
wintry solar
Kir players want ho players to touch them with their soft ho hands
covert kestrel
Kir players want ho players to touch them with their soft ho hands
hands soft from -1 off gcd button rotation
wintry solar
Ho players never worked a day in their life
bitter schooner
Is outlaw gameplay looking any different next season or can I still pretend I know what I'm doing?
gaunt phoenix
just slightly different rules
bitter schooner
Any updated guides/sims/etc?
sudden fulcrum
You can always pretend you know what you’re doing
covert kestrel
Any updated guides/sims/etc?
not til release
wintry solar
Pretending goes a long way
covert kestrel
but playing now will get you 95% of the way there
gaunt phoenix
no, I will update the faq on release
fervent garden
Is outlaw gameplay looking any different next season or can I still pretend I kn...
fake it til you make it
covert kestrel
Ho players never worked a day in their life
KiR are field workers maintaining the backbone of the outlaw nation
bitter schooner
not til release
Any very fast, super inaccurate description of what changed in a 3 AM discord message?
covert kestrel
Any very fast, super inaccurate description of what changed in a 3 AM discord me...
ks no kill
tier change roll change
wintry solar
Cancel KS early for minimal dps increase
gaunt phoenix
Any very fast, super inaccurate description of what changed in a 3 AM discord me...
use loaded dice talent, so you reroll 1-2 buffs when loaded dice is active
roll once immediately after kir
trickster- hold vanish until double coup every time
cancel killing spree with a finisher after it generates you to 7cp
gaunt phoenix
HO is probably dead, we will still use KIR 1 FTH trickster in keys
KIR fatebound will be used on ST
tropic zephyr
HO is dead, long live KIR
gaunt phoenix
fatebound opens with ghostly strike from stealth not AR
tropic zephyr
that sounds cursed
quaint mauve
KiR supremacy
brisk canopy
Fate bound still unplayable if there are add spawns?
wintry solar
I like trickster with ho more than kir tbh
Might be a mind thing since HO was spammy soammy rtb and I like that
white marten
Im gonna miss HO. I hope they make it work somehow
gaunt phoenix
im not sure at 2 target if it will immediately lose to trickster
wintry solar
Gonna miss the rtb spam
quaint mauve
Gonna miss the rtb spam
same
wintry solar
Literally the only reason I mained HO this season
gaunt phoenix
on ST, ho fatebound is not horrifically behind kir fatebound
possible to play it for funsies
wintry solar
Without current tier, idk ho just feels incomplete (totally not because I'm biased or anything)
The 4 back to back 5 buff rolls
Peak
I only get that dopamine in pvp
glass mortar
solo is capping btw
gaunt phoenix
?!
glass mortar
HO fatebound st is like 4% behind (literally unplayable)
gaunt phoenix
ye
dawn talon
give ho and kir separate raid buffs
my guild might be one of 5 on earthw ith two outlaw players
bitter schooner
double coup is literally just having a coup proc and then waiting until you have stacks for another right
dawn talon
do u think anyone would ever have those
gaunt phoenix
double coup is literally just having a coup proc and then waiting until you have...
no the tier set lets you cast coup twice in a row within 5s
craggy barn
do u think anyone would ever have those
my guild has me and a feral druid who alts outlaw rogue sometimes
gaunt phoenix
you still vanish regardless of coup if you need it to prevent AR from expiring
frail veldt
HO fatebound st is like 4% behind (literally unplayable)
oh wild
bitter schooner
ye I figured I was just confused by double coup (I haven't played in a while)
frail veldt
I thought it was like 15% behind
glass mortar
still doomed next season
frail veldt
oh
glass mortar
oh wait u werent, i missed that.
sharp hinge
random stat BOEs? FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME BLIZZARD
glass mortar
i mean that makes sense the HO falloff was trickster
no reason for it to fall further behind as fatebound with new tier really
glass mortar
thats like identical to the gap on live
frail veldt
and ofc HO is behind KiR in aoe
glass mortar
for fatebound
tho on live depends on ur gear abit prob i think i have too much haste for fatebound HO st
frail veldt
yeah at that point were just throwing stats wherever
gaunt phoenix
mastery one day
craggy barn
i mean, HOs competing against higher GM uptime isnt it
thats the main reason its worse in aoe
glass mortar
higher GM uptime and it doesnt really "Gain" anything from deft while kir does
frail veldt
HO without supercharger is gona be soooo boring
I havent kept up with the TC, are we still playing sleight
or is it all back to LD
hybrid crown
Is it going to be smoother though
gaunt phoenix
LD
hybrid crown
I actually like KIR over HO at least in raid because of the HO lows
frail veldt
for both KiR and HO?
stuck sparrow
random stat boe just means
gaunt phoenix
yerp
stuck sparrow
no one is gonna want the versa ones
stuck sparrow
frail veldt
I actually like KIR over HO at least in raid because of the HO lows
I think HO has less low lows than KiR though
stuck sparrow
This reminds me of a quote from the legion lock guide website
frail veldt
KiR has more negative stdev iirc
stuck sparrow
"If your spec stacks vers, there is something wrong with its design"
frail veldt
"If your spec stacks vers, there is something wrong with its design"
its true
hybrid crown
Huh
craggy barn
when KIR is fucked its a slow crawl back
when HO is fucked, its not too bad to get back
frail veldt
HO is a more stable build as a whole
When it comes to downtime and player mistakes and rng
craggy barn
like u can absolutely fuck up KIR and struggle to get back
hybrid crown
Yeah true
frail veldt
cuz KiR relies on momentum of cdr
craggy barn
my last gally kill is proof of that
frail veldt
HO can recover its cds even with adr down and not many buffs
cuz it has just so much more cp gen
craggy barn
its easier to deal with when HO
stuck sparrow
sin its like.....kind of whatever?
latent oak
are the new boots gunna be insta bis on every spec btw
vapid sundial
Outlaw mastery rework when
Monkey paw curls
latent oak
or is the effect small enough to where better stats will win out
vapid sundial
You now need 25% mastery
They Already monkey paw us for haste
You think they won't do it again?
XD
glass mortar
man this boe change is goated
how many other people want heavy vers light crit gear
frank finch
how so
craggy barn
mastery needs a buff probably to be a worthwhile stat
but a rework isnt necessary when theres a bunch of other masteries that are worse in terms of interesting design
frank finch
those will be the cheapest
true
stuck sparrow
which specs have the best masteries even
stuck sparrow
i forget what ele's is
glass mortar
windwalker slows down taking mastery at ~26000 rating
vapid sundial
Enhance stacks mastery to the moon
craggy barn
vapid sundial
90% and you're still taking
quaint mauve
bro this waitress has seen me walk into this restaurant at the same time 3 days in a row
am i fat guys
be honest
stuck sparrow
well not anymore with current gear
gaunt phoenix
Yes
stuck sparrow
they play critical chain on belt iirc
craggy barn
bro this waitress has seen me walk into this restaurant at the same time 3 days ...
i mean, are u ordering like a fuck ton of food every time
stuck sparrow
crit proc
vapid sundial
If belt didn't exist
stuck sparrow
over mastery or haste proc
haughty wigeon
why is loktar so intellectually dishonest
frail veldt
bro this waitress has seen me walk into this restaurant at the same time 3 days ...
you eat food every day?
wow youre fat
haughty wigeon
gaunt phoenix
Wtf
stuck sparrow
I think you're just hitting DR as enhance now
vapid sundial
Crit proc is probably better bc it's not perma
stuck sparrow
if you have like 100%
vapid sundial
why is loktar so intellectually dishonest
Loktark?
stuck sparrow
mastery
gaunt phoenix
no loktar
frail veldt
fat shaming mewo
I just said they are fat
vapid sundial
Just making sure
craggy barn
loktar ogar?
frail veldt
I didnt say being fat was bad
glass mortar
does anyone play the mastery or haste proc from belt
glass mortar
i think those effects r just lower budget then the crit one
gaunt phoenix
Sin?
craggy barn
zug zug
vapid sundial
I just know at 80% mastery Was still good
But I quit before the special funny thing
Thst inc power
craggy barn
i dont want a mastery rework such that mastery is the best outlaw stat
that sounds terrible
stuck sparrow
i think sin plays mastery on belt in keys
vapid sundial
Then to touch it
stuck sparrow
and crit in raid
vapid sundial
If blizz changed outlaw mastery
It'd become bis to an extent
I do not want to be monkey paw again
Pls stop asking for mastery changes
stuck sparrow
"how do we make people want haste?"
craggy barn
the only thing they need to do is buff it a bit to make it not a throw to take
bright lodge
Why out of all that pretty stats we wand the most boring one that is just flat dmg increase?
vapid sundial
It's fine to have one be just meh
Bc flat dmg is good Idk
Very few specs don't want any vers at all right?
Enh being one of.
bright lodge
I think, most dont need vers at all
craggy barn
most want crit haste or mastery
craggy barn
depends on content i think
covert heart
Survival wants no vers as well
vapid sundial
Regardless
fair oak
most healers will want mastery to a certain point then dump everything into vers
fair oak
for most of them point for point mastery is more healing but in keys at least mastery ends up being disregarded very often
unless you're like
a bald unbutonned shirt resto druid streamer
vapid sundial
Hell no
lost condor
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
craggy barn
all stats are fine but mastery is real good
dawn talon
bro this waitress has seen me walk into this restaurant at the same time 3 days ...
you big asl
craggy barn
haste gets more value with bleed build
dawn talon
sorry bro
craggy barn
but u can play with all stats without running into any issues
stuck sparrow
i mean sin wants more mastery
so their priory trinket doesnt do funny business
when alchemical chaos changes
bright lodge
we need a class that wants exactly all 4 stats to be equal
Next DH spec
craggy barn
theres no spec that absolutely doesnt give a shit what stats they have
dawn talon
we need a class that wants exactly all 4 stats to be equal
mastery that just multiplies your stat ratings if it's within 250 of another stat
latent oak
isnt assa pretty much at the point where an ilvl upgrade will be better
dawn talon
doesn't sound like aids at all
stuck sparrow
isnt assa pretty much at the point where an ilvl upgrade will be better
Yes
vapid sundial
Next dh spec should be removing dh
craggy barn
nah
vapid sundial
And any class introduced after it
vapid sundial
I hate doing keys with momentum dh
craggy barn
get rid of it
bright lodge
They don't know rogues exist
stuck sparrow
momentum aint a thing anymore
craggy barn
blizzard failed rogue bc its the most popular fantasy identity ever!
no other reason
vapid sundial
They still fkn move like it's momentum
stuck sparrow
I mean you still backflip on cd
toxic star
killing spree absorb will no longer count as healing in logs (sorry cauldron hps parselords)
stuck sparrow
but felrush isnt required anymore
toxic star
but also, its gone anyway ig
stuck sparrow
Still generates resource+gives you the copy of korayn initiative
vapid sundial
So I'm just being lied to
bright lodge
I was going to ask, how's KIR still better on ptr w/o current tier set?
craggy barn
I was going to ask, how's KIR still better on ptr w/o current tier set?
better 4+ buff uptime than HO
random stirrup
I was going to ask, how's KIR still better on ptr w/o current tier set?
Kir is historically better until the tier set which favoured HO
thorny frigate
Fuck ho im coming back for kir
white marten
Who wants to stroke my restless blade?
bright lodge
Ye. So the rolls is all we are, no more that this
white marten
Hey now, lets all calm down on the HO hate
Not tolerated here
You take that to the Sub channel
white marten
Im on work xd
Not yet, sweet prince.
jovial dome
I love HO. I kind of hate that it's looking to be a KIR season
Like an only KIR season
tight egret
stray star
Dude, where do these guys get this information that they have tuning today?
blissful thunder
cope
stray star
source, yes
sudden fulcrum
white marten
Dude, where do these guys get this information that they have tuning today?
We have family that work at blizzard
leaden sonnet
Dude, where do these guys get this information that they have tuning today?
Perhaps theyve worked at blizzard for 7 years?
sudden fulcrum
Pedro’s dad is John Blizzard
vapid sundial
Perhaps theyve worked at blizzard for 7 years?
white marten
dawn talon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/124169701881282560/1397969328149893281/df...
piratesoftware hate so forced 💔
you cannot look at me w a straight face and tell me a single soul who is not a grifting bottomfeeder gives a fuck about anything that dude has done in the past year
sudden fulcrum
Well I used to like him and then he revealed that he is a horrible person. So it’s not really forced. I just like seeing assholes get their comeuppance as i would imagine many do
vapid sundial
piratesoftware hate so forced 💔
From people in the industry I know, well, all I see him as is a fake.
Lol
vapid sundial
To this extent? Idk
vapid sundial
They don't lie about their entire life and accomplishments like this I feel
dawn talon
lol
sudden fulcrum
Yeah but the difference is that they don’t refuse to ever admit they are wrong and lie about everything about their personality
vapid sundial
Voice changer moment
dawn talon
Yeah but the difference is that they don’t refuse to ever admit they are wrong ...
yes, they do
vapid sundial
You're obviously a pirate fan
sudden fulcrum
I feel like you’re just generalizing the whole persona thing but these are specific problems with pirate
desert tendon
Muffin
vapid sundial
The conversation isn't worth having you won't change your mind
desert tendon
wanna see something i just found?
dawn talon
i just think people who sit around making memes about people they hate in general
are fucking losers
lolcow culture is a scourge
and you are a loser for engaging with it
vapid sundial
xd
sudden fulcrum
I dunno what that is but you sound very upset about something you supposedly don’t care about
haughty wigeon
but also, its gone anyway ig
Ty
vapid sundial
Me when I see something I think Is funny
desert tendon
my logan when he was baby
lime lake
you've probably spent more time complaining about it than it took to make the meme in the first place
desert tendon
😔
dawn talon
I dunno what that is but you sound very upset about something you supposedly don...
look at my entire message history this is just how i type
haughty wigeon
you cannot look at me w a straight face and tell me a single soul who is not a g...
I don’t know him
But man
Sounds like a peener
dawn talon
maaan idk why i bother typing to old people
dawn talon
u could live in 2011 with kiwifarms pillaging the internet for unfunny dogshit ragebait slop
go ahead gramps u good
haughty wigeon
<:hmmge:928252518977380382>
I never thought ks absorb should have been in logs to begin with
haughty wigeon
toxic star
so things that we arent particularily familiar with and nobody tells us about
haughty wigeon
Now u do
toxic star
just fall under the table
vale warren
personally i always hated piratesoftware because he always has his mic way too close to his mouth
toxic star
now i do, for a bit at least
vale warren
reminds me of leafy
prisma vessel
haughty wigeon
I feel like all pirate software hate should go to ashitgold