outlaw

[glass mortar]

ur lucky i dont post my real freaky hand pics my fingers can flex waaaaay farther then that thumb pic

i save that to trigger my marfans priest friend

[desert tendon]

wtf weran

delve fingers op op

[serene cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-douche-gif-10586425

Zac driving in Marseille

[latent oak]

is that the finglonger

the mystical invention

[glass mortar]

when just flipping someone off regularly isnt enough

[jovial dome]

Finger extensions….going on Dragons Den with this one

[late swallow]

prostates hate this one simple trick

[vivid vessel]

Wsh

Is wsh french

[serene cosmos]

Isn't Arabic?

[glass mortar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/951025640616910868/1133585726777327678/boykisser.gif

[vivid vessel]

Idk lol

[late swallow]

I day tripped to new york the other day

[glass mortar]

ooo? nyny or just the state

[late swallow]

NYC

went to the met

[glass mortar]

nice

[torpid fiber]

This is a crazy response to that gif

[glass mortar]

well wdym hes telling me where the men are

[torpid fiber]

true

[glass mortar]

clearly

[late swallow]

Saw this shit in the contemporary art wing

[glass mortar]

LOL

[late swallow]

not even kidding

[torpid fiber]

I liked the met when I went there in 2019

[late swallow]

mf made hairy cheese and it made itself into the met

[glass mortar]

i havent been to the met in a hot minute ngl its a bit embarassing whenever my friends come visit they are like "so when was the last time you went to this obvious nyc attraction"

and im like "uhh like 15 years ago? 20?"

[frank finch]

u live in nyc?

[glass mortar]

no but i commute into it

not very far for me

[frank finch]

i live in brooklyn

[hasty warren]

Hi pirates

[late swallow]

holy shit another nyc king

[torpid fiber]

tbf if you live near somewhere that's a good excuse to not go to tourist stuff there

[late swallow]

@covert kestrel is in NY as well

[frank finch]

[covert kestrel]

[late swallow]

i'm in DC, but that shit like a 2:45 train ride

[glass mortar]

honestly not bad and if u can do it all by train

[torpid fiber]

I'm in Australia so it's pretty hard to go to the met tbh

[late swallow]

yeah you pop out right in penn station

[glass mortar]

being able to visit places by train is goated

[latent oak]

are na trains any good

[late swallow]

east coast ones are generally fine

[covert kestrel]

Overall no, locally in NY pretty ok

[glass mortar]

they arent super widespread but they are decent where they are

[late swallow]

acela is nice

city metro really varies

[left jay]

Outlaw Rogue has ruined every other spec for me and my general enjoyment of WoW. Every other spec just doesn't feel nearly as action-packed and fun as Outlaw, but right now playing Outlaw is unbearable for me since my PC sucks and I can only manage like 15 FPS in raid, which feels awful on all specs but ESPECIALLY Outlaw. Did anyone else one-trick Outlaw and face this issue and how did you continue to enjoy the game despite it?

[glass mortar]

try to find other specs that u can enjoy but yea nothing really hits like outlaw ngl

and its a very rough spec to play with a struggling pc

enhance/fury/fire mage are names i hear thrown around alot for being the most similar to law

[gaunt phoenix]

@late swallow be nice !

[glass mortar]

fire mage is a stretch imo but as casters go its one of the fastest

actually i think it is the fastest rn

[novel socket]

Fury is outlaw just without the rolls stuff

[late swallow]

it just reads like a classic pasta

[novel socket]

Optimize your setup. If you run an am4 platform upgrade to a 5700x3d and don't ever have fps issues

[torpid fiber]

Outlaw players see a message longer than 3 lines and assume it's a copypasta

[late swallow]

Mi tell yuh di truth, Outlaw Rogue mash up di game fi mi. All di oddah spec dem feel dry now — dem nuh have di same vibes, same action like Outlaw. But right now mi cya even enjoy it, cause mi PC real slow. Inna raid mi only get ‘bout 15 FPS, an dat rough pon all spec, but Outlaw? Lawd, it feel di worst. Anybody else stick wid Outlaw one way and buck up pon dis same problem? How unnu still find joy inna di game?

[late swallow]

i feel the same way though

[torpid fiber]

That's just cruel

[late swallow]

it's super unique playstyle

[torpid fiber]

But also yeah I relate

[late swallow]

nothing else really feels like outlaw

[torpid fiber]

I can't play melee in ff14 bc of outlaw LOL

[late swallow]

people say fire mage is close, but idk man there's something about the outlaw secret sauce

combination of fast pace, uptime requirements

[torpid fiber]

Also having to be on the ball

[glass mortar]

its the pace and the flow

[left jay]

I'm going to pretend I understand this

That's CPU right?

[glass mortar]

everything you are doing the entire time is reactionary

[dark ermine]

Does HO go back to vigor in 11.2 with new tier?

[novel socket]

Yes

[glass mortar]

yes

[gaunt phoenix]

my understanding is that they are pretty close

[left jay]

this thing?

[balmy topaz]

I CANT MOVE

[glass mortar]

i imagine it might depend on the stats u get a bit

[gaunt phoenix]

but also HO is rather behind in general

[novel socket]

You should know what ur gaming on imo. It's like driving a car not knowing what's under the hood

[late swallow]

yeah that's a really solid CPU for wow -- do you know what your current CPU is?

[novel socket]

Yeah if you have an am4 assuming u have 15 fps ur running either am4 or something from Intel. If you have Intel gl get a new pc

[novel socket]

Gl your on a dead platform

[left jay]

fuck i'm literally IN DEBT right now 0 money I won't be able to enjoy wow again for like a few months 😔

but thanks that explains why it's been unplayable this expansion for me

quit the game for the first time since i was 4 years old back in 2008

[novel socket]

If you don't run an x3d cpu during raid your 1% lows will be unplayable

[late swallow]

what graphics settings are you playing on?

[novel socket]

You can run wow on a toaster Graphicscard it's a cpu game

[pliant wind]

97ºC ?

too high temperature

[left jay]

really low and it still dont work lmao

[glass mortar]

i feel like that CPU should be good enoguh to break 15 fps tho?

[novel socket]

Yes ofc

[rich moon]

They should AT LEAST uncap the initial cast of blade flurry, it's ridiculous

[glass mortar]

have u ever updated ur bios

[novel socket]

It should yes

[left jay]

Okay SO my CPU is working about a third as strong as it really should and nobody can figure out why

[pliant wind]

with that temperature can start with issues and low fps

[glass mortar]

because i know the i7s had a problem over the last few years with overvoltaging and damaging themselves

[novel socket]

That was 12-14 gen not 11

[pliant wind]

i had problems because of that

[left jay]

That's probably what happened since my Dad has the exact same CPU and his is working 3x better than mine

[novel socket]

Don't spread missinformation

[glass mortar]

oh he is 11

[pliant wind]

can be a problem with thermical paste

[novel socket]

He is 11

[glass mortar]

i thought he had the cpu as me i read that as 12770k mb

[novel socket]

That was a fine cpu gen

[left jay]

I have no idea how to do this

[glass mortar]

should still be able to manage more then 15 fps tho

its scary and dont worry about it

ur generation is fine

[novel socket]

Just idk his setup looks like his cooling is off. He should run cinebench with hw monitor open and compare his results to online

Then troubleshoot

Also turn on xmp

He 100% hasn't turned it on

That should help

[left jay]

what is xmp

[pliant wind]

when i changed my thermical paste in my cpu, i started to see the sky, when i mounted my pc i had fps problems because of temperatures. then i changed my cpu paste

[novel socket]

Extreme memory profile let's your ram run its advertised speed

[pliant wind]

and thermal throttling stopped

[novel socket]

It's default turned off

[torpid fiber]

oh yeah when did you last clean your pc + reapply thermal paste, that's a good point

[left jay]

I don't think I have ever reapplied thermal paste

[novel socket]

Now this may sound now rough but if you game on a pc you should learn to do basic hardware maintenance

[left jay]

I cleaned my PC out last probably about half a year ago

[torpid fiber]

That's fine

[novel socket]

Like check xmp and repaste your cpu

[pliant wind]

since when u did mount your cpu?

[novel socket]

Then go from there

[torpid fiber]

6 months is fine it shouldn't be the issue if you cleaned it out properly

[left jay]

Probably about 4 years ago

[pliant wind]

oh wow

[novel socket]

Lol

[pliant wind]

u need to check that paste for sure

[novel socket]

Yeah and buy decent paste thermal grizzly etc

[glass mortar]

thermal paste even good stuff is not very expensive either

[pliant wind]

at 2+ years if u have temperature problems check pastes

and cleaning can help too ofc, but checking pastes at 2-2.5 years is not a bad idea

[late swallow]

mirannda your goattee is GOATED

you look like tony stark

[pliant wind]

[torpid fiber]

Thermal paste is really stressful to reapply the first time ime but it's not too bad as long as you have someone you can ask to tell you if you're using too much

[pliant wind]

if u never did that, try to talk with a technician

if u reapply it wrong problems can be worse

[novel socket]

For cpu? No their are like 10000 videos on the webs explaining it

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/thermal-paste-cpu-motherboard-thermal-paste-cpu-cpu-thermal-paste-gif-24047580

[pliant wind]

hahahah

[torpid fiber]

It's still stressful to be doing maintenance on expensive delicate shit

[late swallow]

most of those parts are a lot more sturdy than you think

[wintry solar]

True. Components are tougher than people give them credit for.

[glass mortar]

man when i made my first pc my processor box was stuck and i had to force it open. the processor got stuck to the flat and flew across the room as i opened it

[late swallow]

the only thing you really have to worry about is grounding yourself

[novel socket]

Like u actually have to be semi stupid to falsely apply paste. Like how do u go to IKEA and build stuff?

[glass mortar]

i wanted to cry

called my friend and he was like bro that things just a block of transistors. put it in and itll be fine

and it was

[pliant wind]

for my first 6 months after mounting my pc, i started to have thermal throttling, cpu at 100º, restarts, very very low fps, i had it in guarantee so where i bought it they replaced my cpu for free (500€) and reapplied and cleaning everything

i had a new world pc

and i thought i bought a shitty one

nope, just bad thermal paste

[pliant wind]

it can happen haha

i saw bunch of tutorials

but idk how i did it wrong

seems easy

[novel socket]

I get breaking a pin when building a pc etc but once this cpu is in pasting is like putting ketup on your food just very subtle

[left jay]

alright so thermal paste first and then if that doesn't work i'm doomed for a while nice

[novel socket]

Turn on xmp

[pliant wind]

it can be a problem with your power supply too

check everything

[novel socket]

Google ur mainboard manuel and how to turn on xmp in your bios

[left jay]

This is something accessed through BIOS during startup yeah?

[glass mortar]

thermal paste + clean out ur pc and change the settings recommended in here and see if it helps

[novel socket]

Yes! 👍

[pliant wind]

with that pc specifications i saw in the image, wow should run very well, but we need to take that temperature much lower

:>

good luck

[red zinc]

my ego too big cant do this

[willow portal]

is tehre anything i can use pre key start?

[glass mortar]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[novel socket]

You can do it! Every pc gamer learned it!

[pliant wind]

Yeah, there is always a first time for everything

haha

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/ego-good-morning-gif-16831776396729630141

[torpid fiber]

congrats on coming out as a 40yo lady

[late swallow]

namaste

[wintry solar]

Hate how good a message that is

Unironically

Its like that "I GUESS" meme

[late swallow]

based wisdom appreciator

[mighty pivot]

yaaas queen

[wintry solar]

I love good wisdom

And slaying

The air hasn't been the same since Ozzy Osbourne died

[late swallow]

[torpid fiber]

Why do you have that image on hand

[mighty pivot]

it's popo

[late swallow]

it's like a digital rosary

gotta have that shit ready

[wintry solar]

I have a lot of things for reactions and stuff

I've got something for every occasion

[torpid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/jersey-boys-zoo-race-cannon-leave-leaving-gif-26483269

[late swallow]

LMAO

is that max rebo?

[wintry solar]

This one is sleeper OP

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/max-rebo-gif-24694825

[glass mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/933386399279878154/1248304278376939562/caption.gif

[gloomy coral]

[wintry solar]

I got a bunch of kittens dude

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/rinnbebe-harrys-toes-cat-toes-toe-beans-good-morning-gif-26355867

[torpid fiber]

Without autoplay emote gifs on this just looks like an empty message

[wintry solar]

I finally have use for this

[late swallow]

i miss my cat so much it's unreal

[glass mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cattering-ram-gif-16797977371008998079

[wintry solar]

I have a kitten that likes to watch me play Skyrim. You want that one?

His name is Motor Oil

[silver mica]

What a pleasant trip to outlaw this has been

Thanks for the cats friends

[gaunt phoenix]

i hecking love cats

[hybrid crown]

Does outlaw approve of my cat

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

[hybrid crown]

Ty

[frank finch]

That’s a burn mark, I rescued him

[mighty pivot]

cats are auto-approved

poor baby

[late swallow]

damn, outlaws are certified cat enthusiasts

[late swallow]

fug I did fire emoji right before you send that burn message

i meant no disrespect

[wintry solar]

LMAO

[frank finch]

LOL

[wintry solar]

How unfortunate

[mighty pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-cat-winking-cat-wink-gif-12270606

[gaunt phoenix]

[gaunt phoenix]

who burned him

they shall face the wrath of god

[wintry solar]

Solo when he gets to them

[frank finch]

Not sure how , he also has part of his toe/nail area nicked as well . He is about 8 weeks and I took him in 2 weeks ago

[gaunt phoenix]

little baby

[gloomy coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sneezing-cat-cat-wizard-turned-me-into-a-cat-wizard-turned-me-into-a-cat-gif-3193525644026068777

Cant really say the wizard was evil

Its kinda chill ngl

[wintry solar]

Never again has to send an email

[mighty pivot]

Here is one of my cats failing at being a cat

[gaunt phoenix]

what a goober

[tropic zephyr]

Ankle broken

[timid steppe]

my guild just got to gally yesterday, should i run megamaestro magent + gear grinder or magnet + seaforium (those are the trinkets i got, I COULD either buy zees thug or capos with my dinars)

[gaunt phoenix]

geargrinder doesnt hit him while he's aerial

[silver mica]

I love your cat

[timid steppe]

got it so obvious choice there, but capos for sure over zees thug right

im simming rn but what u think

[gaunt phoenix]

yea

[balmy topaz]

I love you

[silver mica]

[vapid sundial]

Stay away from my man

Wtf

[silver mica]

[vivid vessel]

oxiii

[mighty pivot]

it's ok you can share and be part of the polycule

[vivid vessel]

i dont have a cat

or well my parents have one i guess

Do people like cats

I feel like cats are just dogs but worse

Mean dogs

[sudden fulcrum]

Yes cats own

[silver mica]

Cats are different, they’re lovable assholes

Whereas dogs are lovable dumbasses

[vivid vessel]

so are they really lovable

if they are assholes

[silver mica]

I’m pretty lovable and I’m an asshole

[mighty pivot]

L take

[late swallow]

cats are just more emotionally independent

[vivid vessel]

actual non biased take

[late swallow]

but they can have very different personalities

[vivid vessel]

completly objective

[silver mica]

I just lost my cat best friend, rip buddy

[vivid vessel]

if you disagree you are wrong

[silver mica]

He was such a good boy

[sudden fulcrum]

Goodnight sweet prince

[wintry solar]

My dog is sleeping by my side rn because she loves me. My cat just came to me to feed her a 2nd breakfast.

[glass mortar]

we always had both cats and dogs

now we just have dogs

but both r good

[silver mica]

We used to do old man things together, just sit and nap

[sudden fulcrum]

My cat is like 20 years old. She probably doesn’t have much time left

[glass mortar]

i prefer dogs

[silver mica]

Buddy was 15, outlived his wife and his daughter

[vivid vessel]

Aw man, I lost my doggo a bit ago and I still think about her which is weird cause I'm not a sentimental guy

[silver mica]

[vivid vessel]

But doggo hit different no cap

[late swallow]

my neighbor's dog is 16

she still goes on walks and shit

she's a little trooper

[silver mica]

Losing a pet sucks man

[vivid vessel]

She walks on walls?

Like a spider

Wtf

[wintry solar]

One of my dogs got attacked by a pack of coyotes

[vivid vessel]

Spider cat

[wintry solar]

A German Shepard

[silver mica]

American breed

[vivid vessel]

Ye

[silver mica]

[vivid vessel]

Wtf does that mean

Ye

Bread

[silver mica]

It’s all the microplastics

[mighty pivot]

20 years is a lot but no matter how long they live it's never enough

[vivid vessel]

[late swallow]

imagine getting a galapagos giant tortoise as a pet

and having that mf outlive you

[glass mortar]

could also just get a parrot

theyll do that too

many types of birds live very long

[wintry solar]

I actually thought about that. I live in a super rural area.

[glass mortar]

my cousins had birds when i was growing up

[wintry solar]

He can be free range

[fading coral]

What does this line in the APL mean?

# Finishers
actions.finish=pool_resource,for_next=1

just try to pool 5cps?

[vivid vessel]

no

[late swallow]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_shark

between 250-500 years old

[vivid vessel]

pool till you can do the action after

instead of skipping and doing the action after after

pooling energy

you are in the action list of finishers already so the cp condition was met

so this is pooling for ks i think

iirc

[glass mortar]

its to prevent it from going to lower prio finishers if you dont have the energy to cast them i assume

because thats how apls work

[vivid vessel]

so it doesnt fall back to dispatch

ye

[fading coral]

Yeah KS is next

[wintry solar]

Do you think it experiences loss as well?

[fading coral]

So it just says "wait until you have the energy for KS" or whatever ability comes next if it's on cd

[glass mortar]

its basically just saying if you are at kspree conditions but dont have the energy to kspree, wait to kspree instead of dispatching

since its ur most expensive finisher

but u dont wanna cast finishers while its off cd

[fading coral]

yeah that makes sense

tyty

[late swallow]

there's simply no way to know

[vivid vessel]

It does a bit more than this actually, basically it checks if the condition of the line right under is true, then it will pool (energy in this case) until it can do it

I think we have a similar thing for ambush

[fading coral]

Why is Greenskin Wicker's mentioned in the APL?

[vivid vessel]

So that we wait for energy for ambush instead of falling back into ss

[fading coral]

it's part of the conditionals for BtE

[vivid vessel]

Remnant of a thing whnenwe used to play around it in sl

[willow portal]

@fading coral hi

[vivid vessel]

I don't think it would be relevant at all now

[fading coral]

ok so just not removed

[vivid vessel]

What does it say

I forgot

[fading coral]

# Use Between the Eyes outside of Stealth to maintain the buff, or with Ruthless Precision active, or to proc Greenskins Wickers if not active. Trickster builds can also send BtE on cooldown.
actions.finish+=/between_the_eyes,if=(buff.ruthless_precision.up|buff.between_the_eyes.remains<4|!talent.mean_streak)&(!buff.greenskins_wickers.up|!talent.greenskins_wickers)

[fading coral]

omg hiiiii

[wintry solar]

I wonder if there's a shark ozzy osbourne

[vivid vessel]

ye

well the comment explain it

[fading coral]

the APL is very readable

[gaunt phoenix]

its a talent

[fading coral]

I like that there's a comment for each line

[vivid vessel]

ye

[fading coral]

so as far as I understand with finishers, use BtE to keep the buff up or if you have RP, otherwise send on dispatch

[willow portal]

do i need nyalotha cloak to farm nzoth?

[gaunt phoenix]

that's for fatebound, trickster can just send it

[fading coral]

no

[fading coral]

you just go in and kill it

[willow portal]

ok will try

[fading coral]

you also can't get MCd by n'zoth if you're solo

[glass mortar]

i did notice that the other day

[fading coral]

your insanity will deplete but nothing happens

[glass mortar]

everytime u run out of corruption it will refill

or mine did anyway

[fading coral]

[willow portal]

wait i cant even see the raid

do i have to quest

[sudden fulcrum]

You still need to do the mechanics on N’zoth or you will die

[gaunt phoenix]

the faq translates the apl basically you don't have to read the raw thing

[sudden fulcrum]

The raid can be in panadería or uldum depending on the week

[fading coral]

yeah I think it's character bound

[fading coral]

wait is that true?

I thought it was perma in uldum

[wintry solar]

Yeah

[sudden fulcrum]

Yes

[willow portal]

it swaps each week yes

[fading coral]

o

[willow portal]

but i dont see it in either zone on map

[fading coral]

outlaw is fun af why didn't I try this earlier

the other rogue specs are stinky

[gaunt phoenix]

real based and true

[willow portal]

its so weird to press each button and stuff actually happens due to lower gcd

[fading coral]

real

Idk I play fury so it's not that different

[willow portal]

ive been spamming each button 5 times on dk and now i just press and its already cast

[fading coral]

true

felt the same on splits with dk

[jovial dome]

We can’t have more players join the gang. You’re gonna get us nerfed!

They’re gonna be like “Why are more people playing? Something must be wrong!”

[fading coral]

reroll mage, they seem to like those

[willow portal]

i am just hyped for new killing spree

and my old new guild was playing the whole tier without a rogue

[wintry solar]

I'm just hyped to play push keys with outlaw again

[fading coral]

oh yeah btw

can ks kill people on locken

since you tp everywhere

[willow portal]

probably, i feel like our rogue did that in prog

[wintry solar]

Ye

[fading coral]

pog the whole spec is banned

[wintry solar]

I think it's the most dangerous boss for ks

[keen belfry]

You can’t play KS on that fight

It’s legit trolling

It’s not even bad it’s banned

[willow portal]

a dh got us wiped on gally with his dance stuff

imagine going for ks during soak

:)

[fading coral]

same with slicing winds on windwalker ig

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix btw the more I play the new ks the more I'm convinced the cp gain is litteraly just so you have a feedback of duration, which I think was a good idea anyway it feels nice to see something happening
Does make it even more unfortunate that doesn't really work well with trickster

[fading coral]

I may or may not have killed someone the first time I was there on ww X)

[glass mortar]

i literally wiped us to a supercharged ks right before a p2 soak on gally 2 weeks ago

[keen belfry]

The other ones you can do it’s just super annoying, KS is legit not usable

[glass mortar]

i mean u can play slicing wind u just do it sideways

u literally cannot press kspree

without killing half ur raid

we actually swap hero talents on that fight on mythic

trickster is not playable

[vivid vessel]

Ok but unfair cause we would play fatebound anyway

But ye

[fading coral]

ig fatebound is the ST and Trickster AoE?

[vivid vessel]

Ye

But

Fateboudn is less prio damage

[fading coral]

reading the coin flip mechanic of fatebound was weird to me

[vivid vessel]

Anytime you have targets around you lose st

So appart from pure st fatebound isn't anything

[fading coral]

getting the same coin side 7 times in a row for the buff seems very low even with the buffs

[vivid vessel]

It is fine with the tier set

Illegal without

Especially in m+ where you would lose the capstone between packs

[fading coral]

How does this help with rolling coins

[vivid vessel]

I feel like fatebound plays like it should have played on release with the tier set

[gaunt phoenix]

that's the old tier set

[glass mortar]

u mean u would

[fading coral]

oh I looked at s2

[glass mortar]

not my fault ur crappy kir build doesnt work as trickster st

[fading coral]

since we're in it

[vivid vessel]

Like the tier set is the fix we should have gotten in beta

[glass mortar]

HO trickster sims like 0.5% off fatebound kir

[vivid vessel]

Hm

Ok

I don't remember ho numbers

[glass mortar]

HO trickster ST pumps

its just kir thats like 4% behind

[gaunt phoenix]

currently

[vivid vessel]

[glass mortar]

yes on live ofc

[vivid vessel]

Get ready to learn the real spec noob

Outlaw as it was intended

1 fth

[gaunt phoenix]

at least the kir rtb rule is just roll after kir

rather easy to explain

[near rock]

[vivid vessel]

All heil kir overlord

[glass mortar]

nah 1 fth makes me hate kir

more then anything

its responsible

[vivid vessel]

Ye

[glass mortar]

kir deserves to suffer for this

and that sucks cause i like kir

but i dont wanna play this 1 fth nonsense

without this tier set even

[vivid vessel]

I mean its just pc

[glass mortar]

[vivid vessel]

Terrible placement

Idk

[glass mortar]

mhm

[vivid vessel]

Just fix it blizzard

[tight egret]

It'll all be fixed today. No doubt.

[vivid vessel]

5 min

[fair oak]

I'm so sorry I'll go fix it

[vivid vessel]

It's our niche bro

[inland acorn]

Just bake dancing steel into PC

[vivid vessel]

Litteraly the only thing we have left

[inland acorn]

Idk why dancing steel even exists as its own talent

[vivid vessel]

Ye that would make sense actually

You want more aoe

Take AOE talent

[tropic zephyr]

I'd love to work at blizz for like a week, just to understand their process, especially during beta/PTR

[ashen void]

i was reviewing old SL keys and raids pre s3 and it is quite funny to see opp proc and getting one free combo point

[vivid vessel]

And I don't think outlaw should sacrifice that much st for AOE anyway it makes no sense

[vivid vessel]

Tbf while we had less cp gen, kinda?

We cycles finishers just as fast

5 cps mfd kyrian dust

[latent oak]

we had less combopoints

[vivid vessel]

Was Perma rapid firing finishers

[latent oak]

bonespike aswell

and of a pull

[ashen void]

MfD

[latent oak]

finisher bonespike finisher bonespike

[wintry solar]

Db

[vivid vessel]

I wanna play 5/6 cp 1 fth kir

Db doesn't count

[ashen void]

mfd gaming was fun

[white marten]

Outlaw buffs soon

[wintry solar]

It counts to me

[vivid vessel]

I really like current design of outlaw

Where it's like

A spec that does damage with finishers

But you have a bunch of diff builder's

That you need to chose from

It's cool

[white marten]

Lol

[wintry solar]

Yeah. A little rough around the edges but honestly when is it not?

[vapid sundial]

I like the design where it doesn't kill me and I don't have a channel

[vivid vessel]

Sorry can't have that

Ks must stay as the worse ability in. The game

[vapid sundial]

I can

I'll play enhance

[vivid vessel]

It must be this way

[vapid sundial]

[vivid vessel]

No matter the spell iteration

It won't lose its place at the top

[white marten]

Give outlaw spread cleave

[vivid vessel]

They will make sure of that

[vivid vessel]

We have that

Bte ps mouseover

[vapid sundial]

Outlaw players unhappy with ks?

Buff mage!

[white marten]

Oh… well youre right lol

[white marten]

All 3 specs looking solid for mage.
Must be nice

[chilly atlas]

imagine if rogue was always in a good spot like mage

[white marten]

Outlaw has been in a decent place for quite some time

[vivid vessel]

Really

Where

[white marten]

🤣🤣🤣

M+

[chilly atlas]

our hearts

[white marten]

Right now

[vivid vessel]

Is that true tho

It was good in S2 tww and S3 df

[chilly atlas]

zac is just that good that he makes garbage seem playable

[jovial dome]

Why ya gotta press Zac’s buttons like this?

[tropic zephyr]

I mean I don't call it decent when half the dungeon of this season worked only if the tank knew how to play with a law

Like

Candle king

[hybrid crown]

As long as it does okay in raid and slaps in pug keys I'm going to stick with it

[vivid vessel]

I mean even current season is questionable when there is literally 2 outlaw players

[hybrid crown]

I do super appreciate you all giving input to make it better tho

[white marten]

Dawnbreaker was made purely to grief outlaw mains. Cant convince me otherwise.

[tropic zephyr]

Bruh that fucking dungeon

[hybrid crown]

Can't wait to go in there and press KS

Next season

No more boat deaths

[latent oak]

the boats dont even move now

so u could press old ks and live

[chilly atlas]

did old ks make you fall through or something? :p

[white marten]

whos gonna carry the boats?

[hybrid crown]

Every time if the boat was moving yes

And you die

[gaunt phoenix]

rip hulk hogan

[vivid vessel]

Is he ded

[gaunt phoenix]

yeh

[white marten]

I feel like outlaw is very solid in current season. Unless ive just been playing with trash pugs

[chilly atlas]

ozzy then the hulkster 😦

[fading coral]

Am I supposed to open up stealthed? Haven't found any good youtube videos and the wowhead guide doesn't say

[lofty pike]

How we lookin in s3?^^

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[vivid vessel]

It is very solid

[fading coral]

wowhead just says open up with rotation

[tropic zephyr]

I mean it is, but miss me with that planning 10s ahead because I'm Perma trying to kms

[fading coral]

ask raidlead for 1 min pulltimer

[tropic zephyr]

• tank not knowing ks and positioning the boss where you can't ks

[vivid vessel]

Just press rtb when you get rezzed

[gaunt phoenix]

Supercharger does not expire, so you just hit rtb while walking to boss/rez

[vivid vessel]

Work out fine

People are slow

[tropic zephyr]

Idk I played 4 weeks and dipped

[white marten]

Its almost like playing mage. Gotta prep to pop those shields before taking any kind of hit

[tropic zephyr]

What

No

Mage do that once every 10mn

We do that every 15s

[willow portal]

wow i just saw the legit fastest depelete. Bdk walks into a 11 motherload, pulls first 2 packs, dies, leaves

[tropic zephyr]

Literally

[vapid sundial]

I've seen faster

[fading coral]

I'd do the same

[willow portal]

we didnt even dps yet

[fading coral]

just out of shame

[willow portal]

that was 10s

[vapid sundial]

I've seen a 4s deplete

Unironically

[tropic zephyr]

[vapid sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/rlp-wow-first-time-ruby-life-pools-gif-12421336083863104124

Similar to this

[willow portal]

that damn boss hit like a truck tho

[tropic zephyr]

I like the dh version of this too

[white marten]

Those crabs are adorable

Wait are they holding a fkin blade??

[tropic zephyr]

Yeah even as a tank you had to lock in fast after that first hit

[willow portal]

btw is there a reason for me to run 12s? i feel like for crest farming its not the best plan

[ashen void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055196260329590874/1320668978732859402/big2.gif

[sudden fulcrum]

12s are more crests than 10s

[white marten]

12s are pretty braindead tbh

But not more braindead than the pugs youre gonna get

[willow portal]

well i just got invited to one and then kicked

[sudden fulcrum]

Owned

[white marten]

See

I told you

[willow portal]

surely thats enough for a 12 inv

[hollow coyote]

can somebody post a quick ghostly strike macro for dispatch?

[white marten]

I think you missed the part where the pugs are braindead

[hollow coyote]

to case it if available

[gaunt phoenix]

/cast ghostly strike /cast dispatch

[hollow coyote]

ty

[winged falcon]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[white marten]

In ST, do you ignore GS until you have built up 15 deaths chill?

Shit wrong class disc

[glass mortar]

👀

[white marten]

Nothing to see here. Im an outlaw main to the death!

[hybrid crown]

Idk what class that is but it sounds not meta and lame

[glass mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/what-you-sure-you-sure-about-that-dog-watching-gif-26139783

[vapid sundial]

A class with death and chill in the name

Hm I sure wonder who that is

[white marten]

I can assure you your guess is probably wrong 🤣🤣

[vapid sundial]

I can assure you I'm not

Most cringe class in game

[white marten]

Whats is it 👀🤣

Wait

Its not cringe!

[vapid sundial]

The ones who cry when they're not the main character for a single season out of 40

[white marten]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I guess the crying paid off, they got a rework

[blazing bloom]

Is re-rolling RTB if we’re at less than 5 buffs our MAIN priority aside from keeping AR up? Wow analyzer is basically telling me to drop everything and re-roll the second I can no matter what

[vapid sundial]

Then yes it is

[glass mortar]

well yes its only 1 gcd

[white marten]

Its pretty important as HO

[glass mortar]

RtB is very high priority

[blazing bloom]

Kk

It said 75% of my mistakes were not re-rolling immediately lol

[vivid vessel]

It's a cool down, you aren't wasting cdr on it till you finisher

But you also are proccing CTO which is wasted if you should have been REROLLING

[white marten]

Keep on rollin rollin rollin

[vivid vessel]

Well ye if you keep not rollign when you should wowa will flag all these gcds as wrong

[blazing bloom]

I knew it was important for sure just didn’t realize HOW important I guess. If I was in a vanish window I assumed pounding out BTE like crazy was prio and never thought to stop to re-roll during that window

[glass mortar]

well u can do cute stuff like if I know pressing RtB will prevent me from sending another finisher at the end of crackshot i delay it a gcd or two

but even this doesnt sim as a gain (or loss)

its easier if you realize with supercharger pressing RtB is basically gaining 6 CP over ur next two finishers

[vivid vessel]

Ok but you are acting like you are stopping everything

It's just one GCD haha

[glass mortar]

so if you lose a full BtE to press it but spent those superchargers anyway, its like you spent a whole BtE

i mean u know the feel zac, like u have this limited window of time to get as many bte off as possible

[blazing bloom]

No im not acting like im stopping everything.. I just thought it was prio to max out BTE during that window

[glass mortar]

so it feels weird to press zero damage button

[blazing bloom]

Which I learned is wrong

[vivid vessel]

Ye it is but

[glass mortar]

but its not a zero damage button due to supercharger, u just dont "feel" the damage

[vivid vessel]

You still builds refresh bf if it'd down, rtb etc

[blazing bloom]

Thank you Weran for explaining my perspective to him

[vivid vessel]

Thank you weran

[glass mortar]

👍

ur welcome zac i always like to help new players (such as urself) understand

[vivid vessel]

Ye ty

[glass mortar]

🥰

[blazing bloom]

Thanks for teaching me fellas

I did go from RTB being 70% of my mistakes down to 25% one dungeon later after focusing on it

[glass mortar]

nice

[burnt panther]

hello lads how is outlaw looking next ssn

[glass mortar]

worse then this season but not awful

[glass mortar]

in m+ at least

[burnt panther]

awesome love to hear it

gonna ask same question in sub now

[willow portal]

dunno what that bro is trying to tell me

[glass mortar]

sounds like u got another dungeon in that item

[willow portal]

barely squeaked out that 11 brew

[keen belfry]

Hmmm confused why there haven’t been more changes to rogue since I’ve been gone

Maybe they forgot?

[gaunt phoenix]

Forgor

[keen belfry]

We will
Be so OP by week 5ish I think

That’s all I care about

[glass mortar]

classic forgor

happens

[covert heart]

They didnt forget the are just working on a ton of changes trust

[keen belfry]

Maybe week 4-5

But weeks 1-4 might be so bad we all
Blow up and tilted and then ping realz and make Guy even more mad at us

But we can manage all that, we Are Outlaw Players

This will also be the tier of flat profiles being so OP so maybe we are actually giga OP rn and we need a nerf

[random stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[covert heart]

Honestly they need to quickly revert that bf nerf it was unnecessary

I been on the beta and I cant beat like anyone in overall 🤣. Now I have been only playing with some of the busted specs

[keen belfry]

Then we will get a nice .5 rework where they removed buried treasure from buff pool and then they um do something to
Ummmm rtb buffs so like yeah rtb buffs
And then they make PC baseline and we ok!

-Awang

[red zinc]

Make every rtb roll buried treasure

So we dont have energy issues

[keen belfry]

Mmm

Yes

[red zinc]

6x buried treasure stacking goes hard

[glass mortar]

that would also reduce variance alot

[red zinc]

Idk where that energy is goibg

But we’ll figure it out

[keen belfry]

Or you could supercharge RTB so you can get Buried Treasure Chest

[glass mortar]

make rtb a cosmetic button that throws dice we press when we are bored in combat

except if you roll a 20 the boss dies and if you roll a 1 you die

[random stirrup]

Every buff just says + 15% damage and energy regen

[red zinc]

make outlaw play itself and just put a gambling menu on our screen that we can spend gold on

[keen belfry]

How bout make rtb only work when you loot an enemy corpse and loot bones

[red zinc]

least brutal wow spell

Rippin bones out and tossin em at the goons

[glass mortar]

give us a passive where you can opt to have SS always double strike, but if it fails it consumes 500 gold and doesnt fail instead

true gambling spec

[keen belfry]

Imagine bricking a key cuz you ran out of bones

[red zinc]

I lowkey think though

[keen belfry]

To roll

[glass mortar]

if ur unlucky you better be rich

😎

[red zinc]

that would go hard thematically as a talent node

Not the looting thing

[keen belfry]

You mean the looting thing right?

Ty

[red zinc]

But like killing / hitting enemies buffs your next rtb in a way

since you get bones

[jolly geyser]

rtb should do aoe dmg

[upbeat tundra]

cant die to ks if you dont get to be in the key anyway

[keen belfry]

would CTO be cooler if duration of buff was halfed but chance was doubled

Like imagine just getting buffs so much

[upbeat tundra]

is there any other class discord that has more conversation about imagining what the spec could be instead of what it actually is

[red zinc]

no other class channel/discord yaps as much as we do

only reason why

[keen belfry]

Imagine if there was a class discord that had more conversation about imagining what the spec could be instead of what it actually is

[upbeat tundra]

lol

[keen belfry]

I used to randomly go into enh discord and say sup chat

No response

[random stirrup]

Enh discord is terrible

[keen belfry]

Few good people
But yes that discord sucks

[random stirrup]

Havoc had quite a bit of imagination enjoying depending on the time

[upbeat tundra]

whenever a spec gets nerfed heavily i go in the discord and omega doom and say its over etc extremely panicky but i dont even play it

[random stirrup]

It’s a bit like outlaw but more schizophrenic

[upbeat tundra]

just to cause chaos

[keen belfry]

I need to fix outlaw

I hate you rtb

I hate you!

[glass mortar]

CtO only needs 1 fix

its so easy to

buffs dont get deleted when u press RtB

[upbeat tundra]

this discord had a billion ideas on what to do with killing spree to make it better and none of them are what we got

[tight kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/flexing-my-muscles-hulk-hogan-mr-mcmahon-showing-my-guns-showing-off-my-strength-gif-17093933950370519082

[glass mortar]

they can be overwritten but not removed

[upbeat tundra]

there is no blizzardmen listening to us

[glass mortar]

thats it

[upbeat tundra]

we are alone here

[keen belfry]

Good chance no cap

Change

I probably said that awhile ago and you stole it from me

[glass mortar]

every cto proc should be 8s of that buff

[white marten]

Big buffs soon boys

[glass mortar]

if u roll and get that buff it gets overwritten by longer one

but none of this buffs being just removed stuff

[glass mortar]

if i did and u did then u stole it from me before i stole it from u because ive been saying this for like a year

😠

stealing good ideas back and forth

[keen belfry]

You probably stole it from me so long ago

[glass mortar]

its the rogue way

[keen belfry]

Pickpocketed

I once dueled Weran and he trinketed my sap

[glass mortar]

u still lost tho

shoulda said u won if u were gunna make up stories bozo I was too fast

😠

man i used to duel outside capital cities 24/7, now i cant remember the last time i actually was in a duel

might have been BfA on top of the zandalari capital

[frank finch]

we getting patch notes today or nah

vurai?

[warm remnant]

whats the ideal lag tolerance on advancedinterfaceoptions?

[glass mortar]

whatever works for u

some people swear by a few hundred over their ping

many people never touch it and have no issues

[warm remnant]

yes but like whats the formula

[glass mortar]

i personally believe this is 99% a placebo effect

[warm remnant]

it was like 40 something plus world ping or

[glass mortar]

there is no official formula any answer anyone gives u is just going to be what they believe

ur ping + 100 at minimum there u go

[gaunt phoenix]

at least double your ping

[glass mortar]

ok solo but what if my ping is 10

[late swallow]

double it and give it to the next guy

[gaunt phoenix]

then 100 is still "at least double" your ping

[glass mortar]

[tropic zephyr]

Rogue on rogue duels in tbc

Trying to preshot the opponent trinket with blind

Good times

[glass mortar]

the hardest i ever went in wpvp was cata but rogue vs rogue duels were always great

[white marten]

Later today 50/50 chance

[glass mortar]

man how the times change i remember in cataclysm dueling rogue vs dk the dks job was to try to kite the rogue as much as they could and the rogue had to keep uptime

then years later it was exactly the opposite

funny stuff. recuperate was wild

[tropic zephyr]

Years earlier it was the same, dk 2s you you had to kite

[glass mortar]

mhm

i think rogue in cata gained an absurd amount of pvp tankiness

recuperate which was a dps ability as sub so u always had it up and combat readiness were insane

[tropic zephyr]

Yeah in TLK they just owned you, except if you had the endgame cheese build full arpen sub

[late swallow]

recup in 4.3.4 was insane

[tropic zephyr]

Where even a dk felt like a lvl 20 priest

[late swallow]

you could legit reset a fight and heal to full

recup animation was so sick too

[glass mortar]

i had such a good time in cata but thinking back rogue was just broken as fuck in pvp for alot of that expac i think so no wonder i did

little shithead teenager ganking people in the open world

and the pve gear

legendary daggers + vial of shadows prenerf

[late swallow]

insta win against pretty much anyone

[frank finch]

shameless

[late swallow]

a good frost mage could body you

but that's it

[frail veldt]

cringe

he would

[late swallow]

you gotta insta trinket the first CC

assert dominance

[keen belfry]

Yeah and now he’s lying about winning that 1v1 like I didn’t evasjon his kidney into full blind into full recuperate into BTE BTE BTE

Kinda pissing me off

[frail veldt]

recuperate?

[glass mortar]

mewo we arent even on the same region

[frail veldt]

LOL

Hey I dont know these things

I thought you were both NA

[glass mortar]

you know awang is made of lies

[late swallow]

i miss this mf so much it's unreal

[frail veldt]

ew

I dont

[glass mortar]

someone greenlit that then said "yea but we should make it so sub keeps this up as part of its dps rotation thats reasonable"

sub in cata was so good man do i miss it

[frail veldt]

I cant even remember cata

it was just a blur

I only played the first like season or so

[glass mortar]

first expac sub was a real pve spec

[late swallow]

this shit had me screaming and hollering

[glass mortar]

mhm

[late swallow]

and then

[glass mortar]

🤤

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-age-scratch-nut-acorn-gif-6377058886590820641

[glass mortar]

ugh i should play rogue in pandaria

the CP thing hits hard tho

[late swallow]

[glass mortar]

get my sub fix in

[late swallow]

the uh what thing

[glass mortar]

cp stuck on targets

redirect was fine but its still awkward

[frail veldt]

cp stuck on targets was so shit

[red zinc]

Recuperate might be the worst gcd oat

[late swallow]

Saying this when redirect existed

Or revealing stike

[red zinc]

Idek what those are

You’re too unc

[gaunt phoenix]

unc

[desert tendon]

you know what you miss? You re missing it working correctly and actually doing something

[wintry solar]

Typical Mewo trying to be a contrarion. Wanting to stand out because he thinks he's sooooo cool

[late swallow]

I’m 17

Timmy aren’t you like 25

[red zinc]

no im 20

[desert tendon]

old people

wtf

[frail veldt]

Yeah bring back backstab only working from behind

[desert tendon]

i m 11

[frail veldt]

ONLY REAL ROGUES REMEMBER

[desert tendon]

[red zinc]

be careful censi with this

Legit

[desert tendon]

oh yea

[red zinc]

You can get auto flagged

[desert tendon]

sorry was a joke

i m born in 97

i swear

[frail veldt]

baby

[desert tendon]

😰

[frail veldt]

93 gg

[red zinc]

Mf getting an id check tomorrow

[wintry solar]

Good catch Timmy. I smoove forgot about that.

[frail veldt]

get got

[red zinc]

[gaunt phoenix]

my birthday was yesterday

[late swallow]

Yeah but then you just press frontstab

[desert tendon]

HAPPI BORTHDAI TO YOUUUUUUUUUUU

[red zinc]

bappy hirthday

[frail veldt]

HBD whatd you do

[desert tendon]

HAPPI BORTHDAI TO YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[halcyon elm]

[frank finch]

HAPPI BORTHDAI TO YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[late swallow]

[halcyon elm]

he sim'd on his bday ofc

[gaunt phoenix]

[late swallow]

How old are you solo

[desert tendon]

did you simmed your reflexes or something?

[red zinc]

30 but mentally 40 due to this channel probably

[gaunt phoenix]

27

[late swallow]

Holy we’re the same age

[gaunt phoenix]

waow

[late swallow]

[frail veldt]

same age?

and solos so much smarter

[keen belfry]

Weran isn’t NA?

[frail veldt]

what went wrong somnn

he is

isnt he?

[late swallow]

Smarter at simming probs

[frail veldt]

youre smarter at gooning

[keen belfry]

How am I older than solo

[wintry solar]

Solo a 98 child

[late swallow]

I got knawledge in other areas

[desert tendon]

98's babies

[vivid vessel]

old ass

[wintry solar]

I'm 99

[desert tendon]

zac you re ugly anyway

whatever your age

[vivid vessel]

tf

[tropic zephyr]

Hb king

[desert tendon]

dolnt talk shit about solo

i can protecc

but i can also attac

😠

[frank finch]

zac u have caused enough trouble today

[tropic zephyr]

[desert tendon]

yea zac a trouble shitter

[vivid vessel]

[frail veldt]

so thats how yall play so much

fukin babies in here

[tropic zephyr]

Zac zooming over drama

[frail veldt]

I thought wow was an old persons game

[vivid vessel]

what does it change

aftter like idk

[frail veldt]

oh you sweet summer child

[vivid vessel]

25 or some shit

[sudden fulcrum]

Being younger usually means you have more free time

[vivid vessel]

you an adult anyway

[wintry solar]

My aarp card should be here any day now

[vivid vessel]

i mean i work, pay my rent

and all the stuffs

[frail veldt]

I did too at 25

[vivid vessel]

i just dont have kids

and i dont want kids

[frail veldt]

I dont have kids still

[vivid vessel]

so nothing will ever change for me

[frail veldt]

haha

[craggy barn]

hb solo

[frail veldt]

it does though

it does

[vivid vessel]

so you just got skill issued or what

[frail veldt]

unfortunately

[vivid vessel]

what changes

[tropic zephyr]

No cap Zac idk how you can keep a job and play like you do

[frail veldt]

I mean it depends ofc

[desert tendon]

the only thing you re paying is mice

get owned

[frail veldt]

but you just slowly amass more responsibilities

[desert tendon]

bozo

[craggy barn]

zac doesnt play anything esle

[vivid vessel]

from work you mean ?

cause im not doing that

thats not what i want from life

[craggy barn]

zac only plays wow

[late swallow]

He’s in europe bro

[desert tendon]

the only thing he wants from life