outlaw

[mild vigil]

I'm trying to see how much I can weasle my way into just playing outlaw for raid

[vivid vessel]

well pre buffs you were doing litteraly 15/20% less st than now lol

[proven ocean]

unless for niche cases

[vivid vessel]

when we did raid

so idk

its prolly better now

[proven ocean]

outlaw is topping meters pre buffs even on some boss fights where there are 3-4 bosses

imagine with 10%

and it was a random chinese guy

gapping

not even a proper outlaw

[random stirrup]

Law looked pretty good on 3/4/5 boss but prob falls off a cliff on last 2

Maybe 3

[vivid vessel]

well on add damage sure

[proven ocean]

meanwhile zac did -2m dps

if that isn't sandbagging

idk what is

maybe he just cant play with 300 ms

which is fine

[random stirrup]

yeye

[vivid vessel]

But the add damages are also damage amped and shit it's not like it was useful damage to kill the boss

[random stirrup]

Was good on council fight too right?

[vivid vessel]

Ye

Or well

The council fight isn't actually council

It's spread cleave a bit

[proven ocean]

top 5 dps

[vivid vessel]

Weird boss

[random stirrup]

I just assume the hard part of 3/4 will be the adds

[proven ocean]

its not spread

[vivid vessel]

It's kinda like that council fight in admi

[proven ocean]

this guy is hyper coping

[random stirrup]

Outlaw spread cleave specialist with bte!

[proven ocean]

they only spread for a minor amount

[mild vigil]

so what I'm hearing is that outlaw will be fine to solid performance until like, last two bosses

[vivid vessel]

Well it clearly wasn't on ptr

I don't even know if the adds did anything

[proven ocean]

realistically yes, usually outlaw sucks on the last boss but we dont know how they work yet so

[random stirrup]

that is what it looked like to me, looks giga omega cringe on last 2 though. Damage amps and flying downtime phases

Gg

[mild vigil]

I'm just glad I'm never gonna have to deal with KS teleports ever again, I was getting really tilted on tuesday getting teleported into orbs on gally

[vivid vessel]

The boss where you drop the adds behind the AOE you just need to kill them before they reach a certain gate, which is whatever you can do that with any comp
And the lihivium adds idk I don't remember the adds doing anything but maybe it's cause they were tuned low @random stirrup

[vivid vessel]

ye i mean no joke i do think that tech is good on a lot of bosses

[random stirrup]

Ya I was kind of assuming the low tuning is why

[hot olive]

u loging back in 1 day before patch to cast ur old KS for the last time?

[random stirrup]

Seems like the adds should be the main difficulty of those 2

Maybe I’m wrong

[mild vigil]

fuck no

[random stirrup]

I wasn’t joking seems op

[proven ocean]

all 3 rogue specs are very op in raid

atm

in ptr that is

like very very op

easily top 3 on all bosses imo

[mild vigil]

did they fix the sub bugs so we can actually see how it performs?

[proven ocean]

like if u swap around specs etc

[vivid vessel]

hm, idk its kinda like, do you think outlaw is particularly strong on stix

[proven ocean]

council play outlaw some other boss sin, and sub etc

[random stirrup]

I’m hoping sub dodges nerfs rn

[vivid vessel]

or is it just pad

cause thats how it was on these 2 bosses with cleave

[mild vigil]

I am a big sub noob, so I hope that if I have to swap for last two or whichever bosses I can just play sin

[craggy kelp]

[proven ocean]

wait till he realizes boss dmg on stix doesnt matter

adds dmg isn't pad

[random stirrup]

Rik this tier was all adds and stix like 50% of the difficulty was adds

[normal forge]

Outlaw is kinda in a good spot, but it’s frustrating that an 80% (sometimes less) Ret Paladin or Frost DK can match a 90% Rogue with much less effort.

[random stirrup]

At least for our prog

[proven ocean]

it was all about adds

[haughty wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-siren-dawg-with-the-light-on-him-sailorzoop-dog-gif-2844905554045249724

[proven ocean]

boss dmg didnt matter

legit never

[haughty wigeon]

Mods

Mods

The violence to big

[random stirrup]

Maybe different for zac’s wr

[haughty wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/siren-siren-dog-alarm-dog-dog-meme-gif-13318041460621563671

[proven ocean]

zac is just hyper coping about everything

everyone knows rik and stix is about adds management lol

[vivid vessel]

ye rik i agree for sure

But that's not how the 2 add bosses looked like on ptr

I mean rik the adds are on a timer even

If you don't kill before timer you die

[mild vigil]

stix was harder b/c it required raiders to do something different (and the tuning sucked)

[proven ocean]

besides zac got gkicked cuz of raiding badly so idk how good he is in raids

[vivid vessel]

So it's quite relevant

[proven ocean]

the other rogue was apparently better

[mild vigil]

toxic Zeross moment

[red zinc]

The two of yall got some crazy tension

Should just fuck already

[mild vigil]

toxic yaoi rogue enjoyers

[random stirrup]

I didn’t raid myself just watched some guildies and u so I’ll take ur word for it

[proven ocean]

i stop talking for 3 days

then he mentions my name with fake sims

[willow portal]

what can i drop in keys to take shiv?

[proven ocean]

dk without mystic touch

and not grouping up the entire sims

[vivid vessel]

the middle talent with the feet

[proven ocean]

and everyone knows dh buff is useless on rogue

[vivid vessel]

yellow feeet

that thing isnt a real talent lol

[red zinc]

i do not know any of the context and id like to not get involved either

shit aint worth my time

[mighty pivot]

slow reduction talent

[proven ocean]

he's the one who keeps calling up my name everyday

wouldn't give a shit otherwise

[daring oxide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1374816516414898248/killin_pee.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255110288081162311/1374365469884289034/KillingSpreeDawnbreaker.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1374363430362021979/KillingSpreeWorkshop.gif

Cherish the moments we had during this tier, as we prepare to start anew with fresh minds and clean souls

in 11.2

[mild vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634

[vivid vessel]

honestly

i half expected we would have that again

rework came clutch

[daring oxide]

samke hahaha

same*

i didn't think it'd come until midnight

but

[mild vigil]

I honestly never thought I'd see the day they reworked KS

[daring oxide]

half of me felt very strongly that even the devs knew we needed it ASAP

[random stirrup]

Nah the second db was in the rotation there was no way

[vivid vessel]

xd

[daring oxide]

i mean Killing Spree literally made us the hardest class to play

in raids

[mild vigil]

when I read the notes I literally jumped out of my chair

[random stirrup]

Even if it made it to live like that the clips would be crazy

[daring oxide]

by far

its like we had our own mythic fight

extra mecahnics

[random stirrup]

We had a couple in s1 from people memeing ks on the boat but if it was actually the only viable dungeon spec? 💀

[mild vigil]

dude I fat fingered KS when bombs were coming out on mug'zee and it teleported me into every single one 🙂

[daring oxide]

aka use extra brain cells to plan for the future upcoming mechanics and do we send

[daring oxide]

happened to me a few times 🙂

[wintry solar]

Because flying

Weeeeeee

[daring oxide]

during early OAB

i got crushed a lot

just trying to get the timing right

[mild vigil]

yeah coins were no joke

[random stirrup]

I couldn’t imagine progging on trickster law this tier

Y’all are soldiers

[daring oxide]

its doable

[vivid vessel]

me neither

[daring oxide]

just need really strong patience

or just accept

that you just have to hold KS

delay them unseens

no matter how much pain it caused inside

I wish I asked my tanks politely to try and aim gallywix's backside away from the electric orbs

[random stirrup]

I was also trialling so really didn’t feel like sending it

[daring oxide]

my biggest regret

but i played around them instead because they already busy with hard fight

[vivid vessel]

I hope I will be able to play outlaw on some bosses but again it will just depends on weapons

[daring oxide]

I'm just gonna lock in Outlaw probably

but still tempted to make a dagger first

[mild vigil]

I came back to this tier late b/c of my school semester, so I just bit the bullet and played sin

[daring oxide]

just in case sub is as strong as people say

but if outlaw gets more buffs between now and release

[vivid vessel]

Yeeee

[daring oxide]

then might change my mind

[vivid vessel]

So hm

Sub is mega op and the last 2 bosses have downtime + damage amps

It's like admidrassil

[daring oxide]

ah ok

[random stirrup]

yep

[daring oxide]

then i guess sub...

fuck

[mild vigil]

man I don't want it to be sub, as I said, I am a big sub noob

[random stirrup]

Nexus king looks like tindral v2

[mild vigil]

never took the time to learn it properly

[random stirrup]

Fly to adds, fly back into damage amp

[daring oxide]

how is sub looking in m+?

[random stirrup]

Hard to tell

It was quite shit last tier and the tier set is a bit weird for aoe

But black powder buff is strong

[daring oxide]

is trickster still the play

?

for m+ sub

[random stirrup]

Ye

[daring oxide]

and for raids too?

[brisk meadow]

ds is hella cursed

[random stirrup]

Ye fk ds

[daring oxide]

ok sweet

[random stirrup]

Worthless ass hero talent

[daring oxide]

i like trickster

[brisk meadow]

1 hour tricks

[daring oxide]

[random stirrup]

But pressing coup twice in mass aoe is a bit weird

[daring oxide]

hmm

probably worth?

for FF

to boost the damage of finishers

[random stirrup]

Ye just feels weird when you want to be pressing omega BP

[daring oxide]

yeah

indeed

but at least

its not inefficient

since its cleaved by nimble flurry

[vivid vessel]

litteraly better than outlaw rn prolly which is crazy cause its sub

[daring oxide]

if my brother outlaw is saying this

im very scared

[brisk meadow]

zac with the 🪤

[random stirrup]

In blades BP > evis at 3 targets with find weakness

[brisk meadow]

[vivid vessel]

im not baiting lol

[daring oxide]

@vivid vessel you aren't baiting me are you to potentially

[random stirrup]

So pressing evis in any form at high target counts feels bad

[vivid vessel]

no lol

im not

[daring oxide]

not play outlaw as a OTP

ok

i trust you

but

if anything was to change

like

[brisk meadow]

dont you play only ho

[vivid vessel]

Also sub fit better in comps

Cause it doesn't need brew

[brisk meadow]

how can you trust a kir player

[daring oxide]

what does it take for outlaw to remain 'good'

[vivid vessel]

For example it would fit better in a dk como

[daring oxide]

I play whatever is better output

[brisk meadow]

oh

[daring oxide]

but i enjoy KIR more

[vivid vessel]

Dk gain a lot from shaman and so does sub

[daring oxide]

playstyle wise

[brisk meadow]

oh i was thinking of someone else then

[vivid vessel]

And both gain from dh

[daring oxide]

i had been playing HO in raids

[random stirrup]

It’s still like 60-70% phys in keys

[daring oxide]

just because it does more dps 😦

[vivid vessel]

what in raid or m+

[daring oxide]

in both

raid mainly

thats more important to me

[vivid vessel]

Well

You know how it is

If it does same st as other specs but doesn't have burst

Well

In raid you just need better tuning

In m+ idk it's different

[balmy topaz]

Crazy how

we sim close to boomie

and they are blowing up

[random stirrup]

They literally cry every tier

Regardless of tuning

Tettles every 6 months “we need to SAVE BOOMKIN NOW!!”

Just like kalamazi

[daring oxide]

it might be a clip from before they got tier set nerf?

[random stirrup]

Hope ur getting on the YouTube save my spec train @vivid vessel

[wintry solar]

I think it's something about having 4 specs that makes them like that idk

Maybe it's the water

[random stirrup]

Or look at this

[vivid vessel]

ok well ww does 0 damage

[random stirrup]

I know it’s just funny

[balmy topaz]

This has to be like

[random stirrup]

They are justified

[balmy topaz]

the worst I have seen tuning

[random stirrup]

Thumbnail goes hard

[vivid vessel]

i need to change my thumbnails

its been the same every time

too professional

[balmy topaz]

"outlaw is fucking gone"

New title zac

[mighty pivot]

and a crying baguette with an eyepatch

[vivid vessel]

I mean outlaw is ok after the buffs

its just st that is a bit dire

and its not as good as s2

it doesnt top antyhing like in s2

but its not a bad spec per say

[random stirrup]

That’s when u throw the boss details on the thumbnail instead

Below the brew

[vivid vessel]

[balmy topaz]

Hunter tryna gaslight

[vivid vessel]

hunter doing 30% more damage than mage/dk, which are both doing 30% more damage than any other spec in the game

[random stirrup]

The too strong? Into Nerfed. Nerfed. pipeline

[balmy topaz]

Zac up your game

[proven ocean]

zac's speciality

[wintry solar]

Fabricate entirely new details. Fuck it.

[daring oxide]

who makes these vids

[haughty wigeon]

Surv is weird

[vivid vessel]

i was talking about mm

sorry

idk waht surv does

[civic zephyr]

Azorthian

survival has worse ST than both mm and bm, constant AOE, not as bursty as mm not as stale as BM, you can say survival is the outlaw hunter spec

but has way better prio than outlaw

with the 50% initial bomb dmg buff recently

[vivid vessel]

Prio next patch is gonna be so important

I did some halls and gambit where you just

Have the big guy alive at the end

shard or big giant

also i dont rmrmebr doing giants from gambit in sl

where we doing them?

[hardy thicket]

some routes u did 1

first pull

no?

with bl and shit

[vivid vessel]

idk

They seem quite easy now

I think you will do them

[tropic zephyr]

Yeah you only pulled one on BL

[vivid vessel]

At worse you drag them to next pack so it's fine

[tropic zephyr]

I remember the setup as tank on first pull

[vale warren]

I think they did a fuckton of aoe in sl

[vivid vessel]

ye mby

[tropic zephyr]

[vivid vessel]

they dont do much on ptr

but i also feint

its cheating

[tropic zephyr]

Yeah they enrage everytime they aoe

So you have to prio them

[vivid vessel]

do they still do that ?

[tropic zephyr]

Idk haven't played ptr

[vivid vessel]

wouldnt this mean you get a debuff

[tropic zephyr]

Yeah wording looks like a debuff

I remember things getting spicy after the third cast

[vivid vessel]

you have no debuffs in logs and it does the same damage it seems so

thats gone

[tropic zephyr]

Yeah

Ok so clearly it's safer to pull them

And you can Prio murlocs that are a pain

Before turning on the big guy

The more I think about this dungeon, the less I wanna step into it

[wintry solar]

It's def more fun as an idea and nothing else

[haughty wigeon]

Melee bombs

[wintry solar]

We still have kir

All is not lost

[worthy thunder]

Zac, I asked earlier hours of the morning but wanted to get your thoughts.

What is the % difference currently on PTR between HO and KIR Builds in both M+ and Raid. Is HO builds really looking deadge?

[vivid vessel]

If you want team numbers you will have to sim but it's probably in the orders of 5% less st and 10% less AOE something like that

[worthy thunder]

Ok thanks mate, would it be worth playing IF you don't play KIR optimally - All hypothetical atm as I havent tried KIR yet.

[vivid vessel]

Eeh idk

Kir is more fun anyway

Why not learn It

[worthy thunder]

Ok sweet, thank you. Thats the plan. Appreciate you

[wintry solar]

There's also evidence it makes you smarter

[daring oxide]

strong evidence

[short heath]

how much % ?

[wintry solar]

Well the results vary and it's not quite conclusive yet. But users have noticed at least around 5%

[short heath]

ty for the info

[wintry solar]

Yw king

[inland acorn]

Is that for 1fth version of KiR ?

[gaunt phoenix]

St is 2fth

[vapid blaze]

also feels like you can pull alot onto bosses or bosses with adds

[vivid vessel]

I think this is more a change in players or dungeon design with bosses being simpler nowadays

You always could pull into boss really

It was just hard right

[vapid blaze]

yeah but some of it feels very easy now
like just mobs that just exist and do nothing

[proven ocean]

[balmy topaz]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[late swallow]

[gaunt phoenix]

dwarf now

[tropic zephyr]

Dwarf

[gaunt phoenix]

you guys need to stop talking about each other

[tropic zephyr]

When nelf exists

[gaunt phoenix]

before it escalates to staff being involved

[balmy topaz]

I think it's very one sided...

[glass mortar]

wtf i missed drama

[vapid sundial]

NOOOO

I can't miss it

This can't bee real.

[jovial dome]

I thought he was talking about Moerbatics calling someone a dwarf before I realized stuff had been deleted

[vapid sundial]

Okay I scrolled up and figured it out.

I am satiated

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/780377679227650079/1143175175391674418/Viberge.gif

[tropic zephyr]

[jovial dome]

I’m still lost but it’s okay. I figure it’s another Zac/Zeros thing

[vapid sundial]

Yes

The thing that's been happening for like two months now

[glass mortar]

ah

nvm didnt miss anything then

[vivid vessel]

I haven't talked to him in weeks since I blocked the guy I can't control the dude

[glass mortar]

u can just go back to any random day in the last month and see the same stuffs probably

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1347240117525287006.webp?size=96&animated=true

not blaming u zac ofc

[vivid vessel]

You can escalate idm

[vapid sundial]

I will admit he does kinda resort to personal attacks a lot

[vivid vessel]

I would have hoped it would have escalated earlier

[vapid sundial]

So Idk why it's been left alone

[vivid vessel]

[vapid sundial]

Tbh.

It's bc it's outlaw.

That's literally the only reason

[glass mortar]

its outlaw and ross is also a regular poster so people have a thick skin to the yapping

i mean we all have a thick skin to yapping in here anyway

remember how long ryu lasted

[vapid sundial]

Ye but Ross does call people dogshit or the equivalent and try to skill ego a lot

[vivid vessel]

I think I have a pretty thick skin and I couldn't handle it anymore so

Do with that what you will

[glass mortar]

actually im not gunna comment cause it might just rile people up so nvm

[vapid sundial]

Thank God being good at a game doesn't make you right.

[glass mortar]

but yea

[vapid sundial]

I'm just saying it bc he's done it to me about 'Grey' parsing a lot.

Which isn't even true lol

[stiff hawk]

@balmy topaz remember when we talked about this few months ago

[brisk meadow]

#outlaw working on their social behavior challenge impossible

[glass mortar]

no trust me i know half the discussions i have with him end with him telling me i dont play outlaw as much as him. its been a few months since he called me out for rio though so minor improvements

[vapid sundial]

It's honestly crazy how many people think being good = all knowledgeable

[vapid sundial]

The prophesied time has come.

Phone ty for using the wrong version

I appreciate it

Point stands

[jovial dome]

D’awwwww

[stiff hawk]

I legit talked about this behavious with ruby like a year or two ago

[brisk meadow]

did you kill someone? why is your bed wrapped in plastic

[stiff hawk]

To a point where i also blocked Ross for quite some time

[vapid sundial]

Those are kittens

[gaunt phoenix]

I don't think you're blameless here zac

[vapid sundial]

And they will pee and poop

[fair oak]

Dont worry about it

[gaunt phoenix]

his replies are not okay but neither his provoking him

[fading coral]

Do we not press Slice and Dice? It's not mentioned in the APL anywhere.

[vivid vessel]

I didnt

[glass mortar]

you have a passive that applies it automatically everytime you dispatch

[fading coral]

Ah, okay.

[vapid sundial]

From what I saw above

[glass mortar]

you dont need to press it manually for rotation

[fading coral]

What's that called?

[vapid sundial]

Zac didn't reply at all.

[vivid vessel]

wait solo

[glass mortar]

uhhh

[vivid vessel]

waht did i do

[glass mortar]

its a sin passive so i dont remember

[vapid sundial]

He just ignored it

[mighty pivot]

cut to the chase?

[glass mortar]

thats the one

[gaunt phoenix]

I mean, you did start it by calling him a fucking goblin

[brisk meadow]

[vapid sundial]

[vivid vessel]

Oh well if he feels targeted by that

Not my fault

Or

[stiff hawk]

Problematic take

Ngl

[vivid vessel]

That's also the only message I typed lol

[fair oak]

Aren't there like really poggers rogue goblins in the lore

That'd be sick to be a fucking outlaw goblin

El goblino

[vapid sundial]

Why play goblin

I'll just play vulpera

Same model but tail

[fair oak]

Gold increase when looting

[vivid vessel]

I geniuly wanted to share my finding about the raid buff thing because it has been a big topic lately and it has all been gaslight

So I did

[stiff hawk]

Wanna See my tail

[fair oak]

Wait no that's not goblin

[vapid sundial]

[stiff hawk]

[vivid vessel]

But do escalate solo

[vapid sundial]

Is this the time line we lose Zac and Ross

[vivid vessel]

I'm sure mod people will take the right decision

[brisk meadow]

Russian Roulette

it is

[gaunt phoenix]

The entire staff team hates both of you

[vivid vessel]

Ye probably

[wintry solar]

Damn

[vapid sundial]

Hear me out.

Dornogal 1v1

For who stays

And who goes

[glass mortar]

me when literally the only two mf actually playing outlaw in real keys end up banned from outlaw discords

[jovial dome]

Want to be so bad but Dwarf 😕

[glass mortar]

🥹

[vivid vessel]

but i havent repllied or talked to the guy in over a month

so

dont put this on me

[gaunt phoenix]

i think

you still provoke him

come on

[vapid sundial]

Sounds about right.

[vivid vessel]

ok thats not true tho ?

ignore the fact i said goblin

[vapid sundial]

Playing outlaw at a high level breaks a man.

[vivid vessel]

one word

i slipped

[glass mortar]

i mean calling someone a fucking goblin is bound to provoke them but probably his post moreso

[brisk meadow]

i mean he even came after you @gaunt phoenix no? Not taking any sides here

[glass mortar]

and idk if its unfair for zac to be annoyed that ross spent basically a month posting daily about how op law is on ptr

[vivid vessel]

Like if he got provoked about the actual post it's not my problem

[glass mortar]

even when it was completely unrelated to the current topic

[wintry solar]

Wasn't the goblin comment a reply to someone asking about race and Zac mentioned someone played goblin? Or was there a 2nd goblin comment?

[vapid sundial]

No

[vivid vessel]

[vapid sundial]

'I can't believe this goblin gaslit the entire discord'

[glass mortar]

no he did call ross a fucking goblin earlier in his post crashing out about raid buffs up above

[vapid sundial]

From my scroll up earlier

[glass mortar]

definitly a bit of provocation there

[wintry solar]

Oh that

[stiff hawk]

Ross is also doing this to many people

[wintry solar]

I remember that now

Nvm

[vivid vessel]

well i didnt tho

no name were mentionned

[glass mortar]

okbuddy

[vapid sundial]

Zac man.

Cmon

We all know what you meant

[vivid vessel]

[glass mortar]

it could have been anyone gaslighting law discord for the last 2 months about raid buffs

it coulda been me

[wintry solar]

He had media training

[glass mortar]

it coulda been zac!!

[vapid sundial]

[frank finch]

What where the findings or?

[glass mortar]

that law doesnt gain more from phys comp then dk

[brisk meadow]

Its the best thing that could happen to RH Staffteam Tom and Jerry fighting each other

they were too strong together

[vivid vessel]

Idk if you guys all knew who I was targeting (my honor I wasn't targeting anyone) then maybe I had a point

[glass mortar]

no i agree u have a point

[vapid sundial]

The thing is

[glass mortar]

i just think u definitly antagonized ross with that post a bit solos not wrong

[fair oak]

Your honor tomie elfie pleads non provocative

[vapid sundial]

If you had just said 'thst guy'

[glass mortar]

fwiw when im in here its ross doing the antagonizing like 95% of the time

[vapid sundial]

No one would be against it

[vapid sundial]

Yes

[wintry solar]

This was what I was referring to btw. Didn't know there was another

Forgot to turn off ping

[vivid vessel]

ok bro read any random message he posted the past motnh

[glass mortar]

.

[vivid vessel]

im allowed one little slip up

[glass mortar]

😠

[vapid sundial]

We're not saying he is innocent. We're just saying the goblin post was a bit they can use against you.

[vivid vessel]

One slip up when my mental truly has been challenged

[vapid sundial]

Whether we agree or disagree

[vivid vessel]

I believe in my innocence I have a strong case and a good lawyer

Nothing can go back to me

[vapid sundial]

Personally i couldn't see myself getting upset at being called a goblin by some f*nch guy in the rogue discord

[glass mortar]

"your honor, my client could have been refering to anyone when he said that fucking goblin. In fact, Zeross rogue is not actually a goblin inside the videogame world of warcraft, so it is unlikely he meant him in this statement" ~ zacs lawyer, probably

blud ur goin to jaillllll

[vapid sundial]

[vivid vessel]

for my defense solo plays goblin

and i tagged solo

[hot olive]

https://tenor.com/view/poirot-hercule-poirot-agatha-christie-peril-at-end-house-looking-gif-27090962

[vapid sundial]

I'm so glad I'm awake rn

[civic void]

Not sure that's the angle boss, it would mean you called solo a fucking goblin ...

[vapid sundial]

He is a goblin

In game

Literally?

[vivid vessel]

ye ?

[civic void]

yeah lets ignore the obvious word in that sentence

[vapid sundial]

Fucking is a word used to put emphasis

[wintry solar]

A fucking goblin or a fucking goblin?

Mhm

[vapid sundial]

I don't think the fucking changed what he said at all.

[wintry solar]

Disappointed

[gaunt phoenix]

I'm not a goblin

[vivid vessel]

Ok idk why I have to defend myself anyway lol

[vapid sundial]

Zac!!!

You lied to us

[vivid vessel]

Dude legit bullied me for a month straight

[gaunt phoenix]

We will deal with zero

[vapid sundial]

What race do u play solo

[vivid vessel]

I slipped up

[gaunt phoenix]

he hasn't been civil at all

[vivid vessel]

With one word

Like common

I still wanted to post that raid buff message

It wasn't antagonizing

Antagonization

Idk

The word

[vapid sundial]

It wasn't meant to be antagonistic

Is what you Mena

[vivid vessel]

ye that

[vapid sundial]

But he took it that way

[late swallow]

guilty until proven guilty

[wintry solar]

Even if it was, goblin was the word that did it?

[vivid vessel]

i think he was more mad at the content of the post than the goblin

knowing him

and thats not on me

[mighty pivot]

ok but if you don't include that part he has 0 defence

[vivid vessel]

ye i know i slipped up man

[late swallow]

is the ross/zac beef in the patch notes?

[vapid sundial]

Well. If you had just said 'that fucking guy'

[vivid vessel]

i have been solid lately

[vapid sundial]

You could say you meant guy

And not Ross

[vivid vessel]

one littel slip up

[vapid sundial]

[vivid vessel]

i will be fine

[late swallow]

solo can we get a TLDR pin for the ross/zac beef?

[vivid vessel]

my case is solid

[stiff hawk]

I mean you are always mean to retrogue and sometimes popo

[vivid vessel]

• I told you I have a good lawyer

[late swallow]

oxi?

[vivid vessel]

They deserve it

[gilded tinsel]

Ryu

[glass mortar]

looks like we might get it nerfed

[wintry solar]

I do nothing

[glass mortar]

by at least 50%

might be 100% tho depends how the tuning looks

[vapid sundial]

On note.

#outlaw message

I'm goated

True prophet

[wintry solar]

You know when I came back, I checked to make sure no one noticed I was gone and Zac made up a bunch of things that I hate?

[vivid vessel]

[wintry solar]

Like rtb

[vivid vessel]

i remember that one

[wintry solar]

I'm literally #1 rtb fan zac

[late swallow]

is grenoble nice? thinking of moving there

[vivid vessel]

you have no defence your name is nerf outlaw in the dk discord my guy

[fluid iron]

[wintry solar]

That's a pvp thing

[vivid vessel]

if you aint an opp idk who is

[vapid sundial]

Hi stealthi

[near rock]

zeross has been nonstop antagonistic since his first day here, zac at least has some positivity sometimes

[wintry solar]

You hate pvp zac

[mighty pivot]

In other news have a cat pic guys

[vapid sundial]

Okay can I just say

The mods should have taken my advice

#outlaw message

[late swallow]

^^^^^^^^^^

read only for zac + ross until they do an irl kissandmakeup meeting

[glass mortar]

ok but law isnt even op in pvp wtf

[late swallow]

streamed ofc

[latent oak]

has ross gone the way of ryu?

[glass mortar]

also the new kspree is like a 50% nerf to law in pvp ngl

this ability is so much worse then it was

[vapid sundial]

Dunno yet

[glass mortar]

for pvpers

[vivid vessel]

hey

[glass mortar]

i feel for them

[vivid vessel]

wdym sometimes

[vapid sundial]

Zac is helpful ye

[wintry solar]

It's really an inside joke with me and 3 others in the pvp channel of acherus

[near rock]

[fluid iron]

i come out of my full blizzful chill lost ark raids, to read this shit man

[vapid sundial]

He let's me annoy him for log reviews

[gaunt phoenix]

my cat has not figured out she can lay in the bowl thing yet

[glass mortar]

we need some new pvp talents for new kspree

[vapid sundial]

We love and appreciate you.

[wintry solar]

Preach

[vapid sundial]

Outlaw just needs a bit of moderation

For once.

[latent oak]

have the logs been deleted or can i take a nice scroll through them

[fluid iron]

bro it needs fcking jesus

[glass mortar]

ur close enough raccoonman

[vapid sundial]

Can u be our savior

[glass mortar]

what do u play in lark?

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/racoon-racoon-relax-relaxing-netflix-and-chill-gif-23378731

[late swallow]

how come we haven't gotten solo kitty pics yet?

[vapid sundial]

I tried to start playing LA again but I judt felt overwhelmed. 😦

[stiff hawk]

We have

[mighty pivot]

my old cat hated those basket things, but both my current ones like them maybe yours doesn't like 'em either

[brisk meadow]

i wish i could take a peek at the staff channel sometime

that has to be content

[wintry solar]

I learned only cats work here.

[late swallow]

yo wtfff I love lost ark now

[toxic star]

its prob just cat pics, as per usual

[late swallow]

[toxic star]

and xalataths feet

[glass mortar]

jesus 4 of those classes werent even in the game when i played it

good stuff tho 🫡

[vapid sundial]

Yeah

[brisk meadow]

"oh no #outlaw is fighting each other again"

[hollow temple]

#1146207476983812117 message

[vapid sundial]

Any blade mains in the chat

[hollow temple]

menacingly

[glass mortar]

i forgot that game is all about alts so asking someone what they play is a bit silly cause they probably play like 5 things

i played zerker, the guy gunner dude, striker and glavier when i played

[late swallow]

very good ping, ty

solo your kitty is adorable

[vapid sundial]

I loved blade.

Hitting the big crits when you played right felt Soooo good.

[glass mortar]

ngl i only quit that game because i realized it had become dangerously close to a herion addiction for me

[vapid sundial]

It was too p2w

And I was falling behind cuz I didn't spend

And icba

[glass mortar]

i was just logging on to do dailys and stuff and pug content because every friend i had had quit by that point (was like a year after its release)

but i have never found a game with combat as satisfying as it

shame about the p2w

yea

[vapid sundial]

I hit t3 with less than 10 fails

[vapid sundial]

So I was able to keep up for awhile

[glass mortar]

every time a new PoE or diablolike comes out i pray for them to hit that same combat type lost ark did

but they always fail me

[vapid sundial]

Tbh.

I think In a year or so

Next d4 expansion

The game will be great

It's okay rn

[latent oak]

copium

[glass mortar]

i believe brother

[fluid iron]

honing is fairly cheap in the game now

[glass mortar]

this time it will be

[fluid iron]

but whaling for dmg

is insane

just drop 2k euros on the game

and you do 100% more dmg

yep yep

[glass mortar]

sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh

[vapid sundial]

Yeah, but I Legit felt overwhelmed with how much I have to do to come back.

Just too much

[fluid iron]

i made the striker yesterday

honed it to 1680

and im now poor

[late swallow]

got a little bandit mask on

[vapid sundial]

Maybe I'll try again Idk.

Longshot

[fluid iron]

there is a good event right ow

now*

alot of free shit

[vapid sundial]

I'm like

[fluid iron]

and a "mokoko event"

[vapid sundial]

Near 1700

[fluid iron]

which means you can rat yourself into raids as a new player

which is very noice

[vapid sundial]

Within 40 of I think

It's just so much stuff I Ned to do in general

[fair oak]

Wtf natty sourced meower

[vapid sundial]

But borderlands in a month ~

[fluid iron]

daily content i think i do them in around 30min

[glass mortar]

im busy with mop raiding and wow raiding

[fluid iron]

depends on if im doing guardians or not

[glass mortar]

apparently im tanking in mop

so now i just need to decide what tank

and brm is already taken 🥹

[vapid sundial]

Yeah I'm just not sure I want to relearn is my problem

[fair oak]

I have 12 more days of poe until patch

[late swallow]

mop classic gaming?

[latent oak]

are u int stacking

[fair oak]

Yea

[latent oak]

classic

[glass mortar]

yeye we getting a 10 man of friendos together for casual raiding

[fair oak]

Int stack kb

[latent oak]

who isnt

[vapid sundial]

who pay for my mop sub
I'll be your rogue.

[fair oak]

Poor people

[glass mortar]

MoP went hard so

[late swallow]

i'd play mop classic again just to experience mop feral

that shit was insane

[latent oak]

hey mamba goes insanely hard

[fair oak]

My point stands

[latent oak]

:^)

[late swallow]

symbiosis

[vapid sundial]

Nothing Bout being poor

I just refuse to give blizz money

Wow side anyway

[fair oak]

Based

[latent oak]

he was referring to the poe brokies

ppl wihtout 3x mirrored items equipped

[vapid sundial]

Poe broke is like

Unplayable

No storage

Gg

[fair oak]

I caved man my rogue was a dwarf but dwarf mogs so bad

I became human

[vapid sundial]

Humang

[fair oak]

I cannot be a cube looking race man

[late swallow]

dwarf, nelf, or orc goes so hard

[latent oak]

misclicked human instead of panda gg

[wintry solar]

It happens man

[mighty pivot]

playing human in fantasy games

[vapid sundial]

Asmongold maxxijg

[wintry solar]

I accidentally made my 3rd undead rogue when I tried to make a panda

[latent oak]

what if he's bald irl and wanted to rp as someone with hair

[vapid sundial]

I beat u to it box

[fair oak]

I have a full head of hair ty

[vapid sundial]

Gg

[fair oak]

Not very pretty hair tho

I buzz cut every couple months

[vapid sundial]

Copiuk

[latent oak]

doing that is great tho

i used to do that in uni

[fair oak]

I do it myself too

[latent oak]

ofc

[fair oak]

🤝

[vapid sundial]

Same

[latent oak]

the first time i did it was for a bet while very drunk

and after that i realised its so free to do

[vapid sundial]

Manscaped myself to nearly bald

[fair oak]

When I moved to france barbers wanted 20€ for a buzz cut bro it's not okay

[vivid vessel]

It's even worse if you are a woman

You pay twice the price even if you have short hair

[fair oak]

Man in morocco buzz cut is like 2€

[glass mortar]

how much is a buzzcut for them?

[vapid sundial]

[fair oak]

That's cooked

[vivid vessel]

My ex had shorter hairs than me and she was paying twice what I was paying

[vapid sundial]

Reminds me of that post

[vivid vessel]

Which is quite cooked

[fair oak]

[vivid vessel]

But ye

[vapid sundial]

Did u break up bc of the short hair

[vivid vessel]

No I got with her cause of the short hairs

[vapid sundial]

Opposite of me

Cant stand short hair

[vivid vessel]

I see

[worthy thunder]

Do we use CdG at 7 CP?

[vapid sundial]

Clog my drain mommy

[frank finch]

My kitty

[vivid vessel]

I like chicks that are a bit diffy like not a magazine girl know what I mean

[latent oak]

is that ur leg or ur arm

[vivid vessel]

Arm

[frank finch]

LOL

arm

[vivid vessel]

I have the same arm no cap

[vapid sundial]

Fr

?

[vivid vessel]

Fr on god

[vapid sundial]

Zac

Do arm reveal

Rt

[glass mortar]

!

uh this is a sfw discord

sirs

😠

[gaunt phoenix]

[glass mortar]

no armposting

[vivid vessel]

I don't send arms

[glass mortar]

u guys r temping me to thumbpost ngl

[vivid vessel]

I sent my finger last time tho, and there was my arm attached to it

[wintry solar]

Who's the one with long fingers

[latent oak]

guy

[glass mortar]

me when i see all the cute kitties

[vapid sundial]

Guy

[latent oak]

is that ur arm or ur leg

[gaunt phoenix]

😨

[brisk meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/arriba-gif-12324188786972117417

[glass mortar]

my guild has my thumb as a thumbs up/down emote

[brisk meadow]

but

[willow portal]

damn, dont you need them yourself?

[brisk meadow]

its always in the middle, no?

lmao

[glass mortar]

ye

[wintry solar]

Yeah

I was about to say, it's more of a left/right emote

[glass mortar]

fwiw thats how far it goes when i just give a normal thumbs up, it stretches waaaaaay farther then that

i will spare you another picture

[willow portal]

cant do that in germany

[glass mortar]

[vapid sundial]

That's my left hand

Not my right

[willow portal]

sure

[latent oak]

its just a roman salute nothing untoward

[glass mortar]

wtf y we posting gf pics now

[vapid sundial]

Sir I'm right handed

[willow portal]

skill issue

[brisk meadow]

homie can press spacebar while hitting c,v,b at the sametime with his thumb

[vivid vessel]

Me

I have the exact same finger as guy

[latent oak]

dont guys fingers look abit more alien than urs did

[glass mortar]

guy had them slenderman hands iirc

[vivid vessel]

Hm

[vapid sundial]

Yeah

[glass mortar]

WTF

oh its just guy hand okok i thought zac was antagonizing us all

ur on thin ice buddy

[vivid vessel]

No it's mine bro ?

Guy is behind

On the screen

[willow portal]

bad angle tho

[latent oak]

ya guys is a bit area 51 compared to urs

[jovial dome]

Jesus you have long fingers

[willow portal]

guy hand is looking up more

[gaunt phoenix]

put those things away

[jovial dome]

Dude be using F12 as a keybind

[vapid sundial]

Now I know why Zac had a gf

I'm sorry

[glass mortar]

i thought that was a shadow of the hand on the monitor ngl LMAO

[honest sparrow]

Wait what? Same xD

[fair oak]

bro your middle finger is like

elongated

[gaunt phoenix]

elon?

[glass mortar]

you know what zac you got me

[gaunt phoenix]

ya got got

nice grippers

[vapid sundial]

What in the

[latent oak]

sussy green splash on mousemat

[vapid sundial]

School keyboard

[fair oak]

thanks they're very strong

[fair oak]

DAS3 keyboard

it's so good

[vapid sundial]

Bro

Clean it

I see that skin gunk

[fair oak]

soon

very soon

[vivid vessel]

Wtf

[stiff hawk]

Just buy a new one

[vivid vessel]

Ye right

[glass mortar]

nah my hands r similar size i just mean i was putting my middle finger up against my screen to compare and someone working here walked by and was like why are you flipping off your laptop

[fair oak]

I do a full clean like once every year or so

[glass mortar]

woopsie

[gaunt phoenix]

lmao

[fair oak]

dude my hands are kinda big

this is a huge keyboard and it like fits in my palm

[glass mortar]

ok zac but does ur middle finger do this 😏

[gaunt phoenix]

pls

we are crossing some 4th wall here

and i dont like it !

[fair oak]

are you captain hook

[white marten]

Holy! Bro is a natural camptain hook!

[latent oak]

getting brechtian

[glass mortar]

actually all my fingers do this and its difficult to do it with just 1 finger stuck out

[white marten]

A true Outlaw main

[vapid sundial]

Bro is stretching their ligaments

[gaunt phoenix]

bros desk is in perma light mode

[white marten]

How people hang on to the edge of a cliff right before getting saved

[glass mortar]

if im ever hanging off the edge of acliff I'll be ready

thumb out at a 90 degree angle so someone can hang onto it too

🫡

[white marten]

The ultimate selfless act

[glass mortar]

im surprised my hand is still this stretchy tbh im a geriatric now and I havent dont this stuff in years

[white marten]

Im surprised you even have hands after maining outlaw for so long

[vapid sundial]

I can pop my knuckles when I want

[glass mortar]

only got a couple years of law left i think before they are gone yea

[vapid sundial]

People always look at me weird .

[mossy herald]

Yoo don't start comparing feet as well haha

[glass mortar]

ooo you can rumble ur knuckles? like if you make a fist you can just crack them endlessly

[latent oak]

can u do ur thumb

makes the best sound

[vapid sundial]

Yeah, I can do it by itself.

[white marten]

But can you do this with your tongue?

[jovial dome]

This is what happens when Outlaw gets no buffs? Hand talk!

[glass mortar]

haha yea guys dont do that... unless?

[latent oak]

i knew someone that could crack his elbow whenever he wanted

and that noise was insane

[vapid sundial]

Push my thumb under my fingers, tense my hand, bring it out to the right and it pops

[pliant wind]

we had this in MoP :>

[frank finch]

[latent oak]

more raid buffs aint the answer

[stiff hawk]

Tbh all raidbuffs were there twice or thrice

[glass mortar]

in mop everyone had a raid buff

and they overlapped heavily

[stiff hawk]

because of 10 player raid

[glass mortar]

so comps were flexible

[vivid vessel]

Nah no way I can do that

[frank finch]

what was dk buff?

[stiff hawk]

Weran and me

[glass mortar]

horn of winter

was AP i think

idr

[stiff hawk]

They also had Attack speed

[glass mortar]

one of the specs did

[stiff hawk]

ye

[glass mortar]

different specs could provide different buffs sometimes too

[frank finch]

the buffs stacked?

[glass mortar]

no

u had like 8 raid buffs u needed to fill

and anywhere from 2-4 specs could provide one of each buff

so u could mix and match comps alot

[frank finch]

wtf that system sounds better then what we have now

[glass mortar]

it is

if ur gunna do raid buffs thats how u should do it

or not at all

[stiff hawk]

It was also neccessary for 10 man raiding

[glass mortar]

and then u had classes like hunter that could provide 1 of any raid buff basically

so they could slot in whatever ur missing

[frank finch]

[glass mortar]

gl, i do it without touching the finger btw

using ur other fingers or hand is cheating

[latent oak]

i can do it with all my fingers outstretched, i cant do it to 1 individual finger

maybe middle finger

[glass mortar]

yea its hard with 1 finger

much easier with multiple at once

[vivid vessel]

No but I cannot haha

Even multiple

[glass mortar]

ye its very much a can or cant do thingy

idk what causes it

ur like catching ur finger tip joint on the other bone so it sticks

then bending it down

[vivid vessel]

Wtf

Freak

[glass mortar]

yaya