i dunno
#outlaw
daring oxide
vivid vessel
ok but
daring oxide
i think it could just be tuning is factoring ilvl right now and early tier
vivid vessel
we have data
daring oxide
and when we are fully 11.2 bis geared
we are undertuned
so its likely those tuning fixes throughout the weeks will bring it together again
vivid vessel
we have data of us being uter dog in st idk its not that surprising to me
gaunt phoenix
i dont really look at the ptr logs
gaunt phoenix
ye
daring oxide
lol
nah
its likely we are still undertuned after 10% buff
but they aren't gonna go giga like 20%
baby steps yeah
tiptoes
sharp hinge
i feel like something is missing here, but cant figure it out:
sharp hinge
class wise
vivid vessel
im trying to decide if i wanna go back to squares
wintry solar
2 fury
sudden fulcrum
squares look good
gaunt phoenix
lmao
frank finch
im trying to decide if i wanna go back to squares
yes plz this is whats stoping me from using ur pack
and no black borders
vivid vessel
bro i swear they look streched up
daring oxide
im trying to decide if i wanna go back to squares
squares in general?
vivid vessel
ye
gaunt phoenix
they do look stretched
daring oxide
which look stretched
pastel sierra
the weird part is u not having your utility to the side tbh
thorny zinc
squares look so out of place with ur ui now
daring oxide
you mean they aren't perfect squares?
daring oxide
like vertical rectangles
daring oxide
hmm
vivid vessel
im too used to the horizontal stretch
daring oxide
i think it looks good
daring oxide
solo
vivid vessel
idk
vivid vessel
i tought we were barack
daring oxide
we'll get another buff
vivid vessel
then i did more keys
daring oxide
25% speedo buff for KS
vivid vessel
and im not sure anymore
vivid vessel
and i think
bf nerf
wasnt warranted
and its just pc
fucking us over
thats my take
and i know im rigth
daring oxide
Realz: "Killing spree now channels 25% faster, and you can kick during the channel"
vivid vessel
no one can convince me we didnt get fucked over by pc in raid
vivid vessel
Realz: "Killing spree now channels 25% faster, and you can kick during the chann...
bro
you dont know
how many people i have killed on ptr
by not kicking
cause im in ks
willow portal
what is the go to raid build as rogue?
vivid vessel
this shit is so annoying
willow portal
not fatebound?
daring oxide
how many people i have killed on ptr
well they say:
Why dont u watch cd timers and wait until u kick first
vivid vessel
devs hate players having fun and im convinced of that
daring oxide
🙂
gaunt phoenix
what is the go to raid build as rogue?
HO or KIR trickster is the same really
fatebound is good st, but no bosses are st except sprocket
willow portal
so fate is not good then?
gaunt phoenix
trickster is so good aoe that it wins every boss except sprocket
Mythic sprocket you cant be trickster at all cuz killing spree wipes the raid
willow portal
wouldnt m+ then also be trickster?
haughty wigeon
gaunt phoenix
yes
haughty wigeon
Not my emotes tho
willow portal
i grabbed the first build from wowhead and that was fate
willow portal
Not my emotes tho
nyan!
gaunt phoenix
and whoever wrote it is very smart and handsome
pastel sierra
im trying to decide if i wanna go back to squares
the rectangles like this look better to me
vivid vessel
the rectangles like this look better to me
ye very based take
willow portal
and whoever wrote it is very smart and handsome
will take a look but is that using that headache inducing teleport skill?
vivid vessel
@frank finch fuck you rectangle hater
gaunt phoenix
yes trickster uses ks
willow portal
She’s talented af
i mean i got my pfp from her
daring oxide
Mythic sprocket you cant be trickster at all cuz killing spree wipes the raid
i tried it once, was hilarious
willow portal
ks is changing in 2 weeks though
i know, i am kinda waiting for that
haughty wigeon
i mean i got my pfp from her
This is my favorit3 one
vivid vessel
ye way better ability in 2 weeks 
haughty wigeon
daring oxide
@vivid vessel i prefer the squares, look better for timers
vivid vessel
fake
pastel sierra
just make em squares on your thing ezpz
daring oxide
ok
zac
add a custom options
so we can choose between recs and squares ye
problem solved
vivid vessel
no
daring oxide
on a serious note though
PTR tuning notes tonight
u hyped?
KS iteration tonight
gaunt phoenix
they already tuned like 3 times
dark steeple
outlaw nerf
wintry solar
On a monday?
dark steeple
quaint mauve
bro my blood pressure is so low
daring oxide
bro
dark steeple
outlaw buff
No
wintry solar
Go sit outside doggy
gaunt phoenix
thank you for sharing
daring oxide
solo
gaunt phoenix
??!>!>
gaunt phoenix
idk
wintry solar
You just need a pick me up
dark steeple
vurai its okay
daring oxide
i need to watch zac stream
dark steeple
they will reduce bf to 40%
daring oxide
my pick meu p
daring oxide
they will reduce bf to 40%
ok but buff ST by another 20%
if they buff ST by 20%
we'd be at 6m
like the other classes are simming
and thats good
dark steeple
is outlaw still capped?
daring oxide
yeah...
dark steeple
been out of the loop for more than a year
gaunt phoenix
specs simming for 30% ahead of outlaw scares me more than actual ptr data cause i am sim pilled
wintry solar
A simcel
dark steeple
isn't every spec just auto cleave nearly uncapped or atleast softcapped nowadays
daring oxide
ys
yes
MM basically became 8 targets cleave now
and auto cleaves
its fucking nuts
MM is gonna go GIGA
dark steeple
they even buffed assa spatter no?
daring oxide
next tier
dark steeple
its a one pointer now
daring oxide
huh
dark steeple
iirc it was 2?
gaunt phoenix
yoink
dark steeple
oh no i misunderstood
sudden fulcrum
personally, i love ass
sudden fulcrum
both the rogue spec and the one on my GF
daring oxide
daring oxide
https://tenor.com/view/cute-gif-23206365
realz open this
IT will flag him
content too hot
hot olive
gaunt phoenix
we'ere so barack
daring oxide
!ban lettuce doggy
white marten
Ass? Rogue has another spec that isnt outlaw?
daring oxide
Ass? Rogue has another spec that isnt outlaw?
there are two specs for rogue:
Outlaw Trickster and Outlaw Fatebound
dunno about any other
dark steeple
vurai you have fed this channel with too much copium
daring oxide
I haven't
dark steeple
you need to prepare for the worst
daring oxide
noone eats my copium anyways
the copium gets cold at the table
and i eat it myself
white marten
Outlaw getting another buff soon
wintry solar
I like the positivity
dark steeple
i miss the time when 5000 random people come in to complain about insignificant nerfs man
daring oxide
you need to prepare for the worst
preparing for the worst is done by being positive and believing the next day will be 50/50 outlaw buffs or nothing
and we go again tomorrow
and tomorrow, so on
gaunt phoenix
KS now lasts a global
white marten
Then rogue rework for Midnight expansion
daring oxide
KS now lasts a global
gaunt phoenix
velf
dark steeple
void elf
vivid vessel
night !
gaunt phoenix
void
vivid vessel
no wait
white marten
Void
dark steeple
not nelve
daring oxide
moon elf
vivid vessel
no big feets
white marten
Void
daring oxide
high elf
?
dark steeple
you want void elf
daring oxide
with blue eyes
white marten
Void elves with red eyes
daring oxide
i wish they made racials gone, and change it into character traits
so i can be a Brawn blood elf (brawn giving 2% crit dmg)
white marten
Huge
white marten
Thats too much rpg for WoW
daring oxide
no way
i believe
after player housing
the next big thing is more character customisation and traits rework (bye racials and hello character traits and background)
white marten
Can i live in your neighborhood,? 🥺
daring oxide
of course u can
white marten
Outlaw only Neighborhood
white marten
Pirates everywhere
white marten
Lots of Void elves
white marten
True
white marten
Cuz sexy
daring oxide
nah
white marten
Maybe drenai
last veldt
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit 
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group 
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
white marten
Ah ok
daring oxide
aliens not allowed
white marten
Insta denial
daring oxide
only azerothians
white marten
With the “Smelly” title
white marten
What?!
daring oxide
i have trashmaster though...
white marten
I haven’t met a single outlaw without the “Smelly” title
white marten
Huge bis
sharp hinge
white marten
The title alone makes it bis
vivid vessel
you want void elf
you sure ?
i want the small elfs
that are like blood elfs
same skeleton
dark steeple
void elf is blood elf model
dark steeple
just other colors
vivid vessel
lettuce is the goat
white marten
We gotta make exception for void elves cuz Zac is rolling void
vivid vessel
nightborne is clunky looking ones
ye they ugly af
white marten
Extremely
dark steeple
night elf is tree hugger ones
pastel sierra
Smelly or trashmaster title with this fit
white marten
Smelly for sure
I can smell those fish
Through the picture
Like a scratch n sniff
daring oxide
Smelly or trashmaster title with this fit
ok thats fishy
white marten
ok thats fishy
Gotta allow gnomes too .
frank finch
<@210877208737087488> fuck you rectangle hater
give somethin to the square lovers cuh
daring oxide
give somethin to the square lovers cuh
I think we need a poll
@vivid vessel would you let a poll determine the outcome of the WA pack
jolly geyser
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> would you let a poll determine the outcome of the WA pack
no
i make it for myself you noob
mighty pivot
casual's reading mafic's thread 
mighty pivot
the one and only
sudden fulcrum
yup
normal violet
what's the lore with the whole 🏄
I keep seeing it everywhere and it's on that thread that Casual is looking at too
mighty pivot
it's the calling card of wow forum's greatest poster
rotund depot
normal violet
who is the greatest poster?
rotund depot
wait is he reading it on stream
normal violet
he's reading some threads
like Mafic is spamming thumbs up and double surf emojis the whole time
so I gotta know the lore
is that just his signature
rotund depot
yeah
proven ocean
mighty pivot
yes but he manually types it
normal violet
good to know, ty
rotund depot
sometimes he swaps the thumbs up with a thinking face
mighty pivot
we know that because sometimes the order is reversed
proven ocean
rotund depot
man has the squishiest head on the planet
has he gotten to the one about new killing spree becoming an ultra niche ability
wintry gate
hey at least you don't have to use advanced calculus to hit the button anymore
proven ocean
And then ppl get mad why we think realz isn’t working for outlaw (no one got mad btw)
vapid blaze
lets go
sharp hinge
Smelly or trashmaster title with this fit
what did the blind man say when he passed the fish market?
tacit maple
what did the blind man say when he passed the fish market?
whats my wife doing here?
sharp hinge
whats my wife doing here?
vapid blaze
its zorthas bingo
sharp hinge
frost dks are wondering why theyre getting a nerf and acting oblivious
rotund depot
iirc they're still like 8% ahead from aura buffs so far this ptr
tight kernel
What keys is eye good for?
sharp hinge
the ones where you chain pull
lament gyro
hey guys how bad is ho compared to kir in ptr?
pliant wind
In PTR? HO would be shit probably, because tier
lament gyro
i guess i finally need to learn kir
pliant wind
or rtb till the end of the dungeon
lament gyro
ty
covert kestrel
i guess i finally need to learn kir
white marten
Huge HO buff soon . Trust
hardy thicket
all opps are HO
spark relic
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
sharp hinge
i guess i finally need to learn kir
just play sin
think its doing better than law currently
slim hare
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
covert kestrel
just play sin
sharp hinge
https://tenor.com/view/doctorevil-no-gif-22331678
proper bear
https://tenor.com/view/doctorevil-no-gif-22331678
single best reaction gif of all time
tender wedge
https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-wth-gif-17571836
I’m a huge Blink fan and I remember when this video came out well before memes were really a thing, but my friends and I started mouthing what the fuck at each other just like this in some weird kind of proto-analogue-meme style
Agree this is the single best reaction gif
tacit maple
!macro
ornate heathBOT
Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.
warm roost
in confused how the 10% all damage buff is only an 8% single target buff?
gaunt phoenix
in confused how the 10% all damage buff is only an 8% single target buff?
cuz some of our damage is from trinkets etc
warm roost
ah rip
lament gyro
just play sin
nah i find sin unfun tbh, would play sub if it was good
sharp hinge
see i cant play sub, only reason i havent truly mained sin is the stand around and wait time
plus you need to make sure youre in stealth every pack
violet bison
Figured
civic zephyr
see i cant play sub, only reason i havent truly mained sin is the stand around a...
sub is fun in cds, sleeper out of cds, and assa feels clunky to me
kinda makes me sad but outlaw is a consistently fun to play spec but its seeming more doomer the more i wait on if its playable in content next season
cos im a pug player, i dont have friends, so if its not in a good spot, imma struggle to get anything done
im also casual as fuck now
chilly atlas
outlaw is the most fun jank spec
pliant wind
yeah same here
civic zephyr
so i dont have the option to find access through mythic play
pliant wind
i had lucky i got into 18s
civic zephyr
ive done 12s, and called it a month
pliant wind
maybe pugs were friendly
civic zephyr
i just returned back
after a break since raiding in amirdrassil
and i wasnt playing rogue then
havent played rogue since shadowlands, where i mained sub
pliant wind
i think that if anyone want to go into highlevel keys with pugs u need to tryhard since day 1 and outilevel everyone to get into good keys and snowball from there
thats what worked for me
civic zephyr
and learning outlaw is hard, atleast freshly back and as casual i am, with an inability to get into actual groups where the spec can play to its potential
pliant wind
but i couldnt get into 19s with pugs and got tired of waiting hours
sharp hinge
sub is fun in cds, sleeper out of cds, and assa feels clunky to me
kinda makes ...
yeah i remember running keys with a guild made who was sub and we had to constantly wait for his cds to come up to actually start certain trash packs
which is just bad on blizzs part
civic zephyr
yeah i remember running keys with a guild made who was sub and we had to constan...
sub is sad, cos its like in cds, sub is great at its "niche" those big bursty windows
but out of that
youre sleeper doing tank damagee
pliant wind
yeh, i tried sub but i couldnt stand playing outside of cds
civic zephyr
its so boring
pliant wind
maybe in s3 its different with cdr of double coup, idk
civic zephyr
just pooling/maintaining so youre ready for the next window
sucks to me
its like fire mage, just they gave that access to break up that period with like skb and stuff
fathom bramble
they need the tierset from shadowlands badly
civic zephyr
where as sub gets "mini" windows thats just shadow dance/symbols with that one finisher i forget the name of, but that lasts like 5 seconds and its meh
fathom bramble
otherwise nothing is ever going on
proper bear
when's the next ptr build out?
fathom bramble
what
civic zephyr
isnt this just taken from a "fix outlaw" forum from 5 months ago
vivid vessel
Also this just makes crackshot like the audacity shit
Which if you ask me
Killed ho fun
Removing an entire gameplay
Cause idk
No reason at all
civic zephyr
im p sure its just pulled from someones opinion on the blizz forums
from months ago
fathom bramble
if you search the text of almost any blizzard forum post in google you find it easily
this is from a week ago
but the thread is still being actively discussed
sharp hinge
random question, but why does our sinister strike turn into dispatch
fathom bramble
this reply just about covers it
civic zephyr
yeah posting that in here claiming its a "fix" is dumb asf lowkey
like im a fucking weirdo, i scrolled the forums looking for shit while trynna learn if people had relevent takes on certain thingss
and i have an odd memory
idk why i remember its from a forum post
but yk
sharp hinge
@vivid vessel do you prefere KiR or HO gameplay (dont include damage numbers) just purely asking about rotation and gameplay for each
civic zephyr
random question, but why does our sinister strike turn into dispatch
it does?
sharp hinge
yes
civic zephyr
erm i assume its cos its design base is similar to sub with thier in and out of stealth builders, with talents that make it possible to use out of
fathom bramble
this replaces sinister strike with ambush when it triggers
civic zephyr
likee that one
plucky chasm
Im watching Casual rn and sub looking so strong and good
civic zephyr
as it has extra benefit/damage talents
sharp hinge
but does it matter if i press ambush or the changed sin strike into ambush?
i tried both and i see no change in dps
gaunt phoenix
the sin strike ambush is bugged and better
sharp hinge
for real?
gaunt phoenix
it has a chance to trigger opportunity twice
civic zephyr
no its ambush, there is a macro that will change your sin to ambush out of stealth with HO procced
glass mortar
whenever u have audacity u wanna make sure ur pressing SS transformed into ambush
otherwise normal ambush is fine
its like 2% dps total
glass mortar
well
just use SS only out of stealth since it transforms
and in stealth u can bind SS to be able to use this but thats like 0.5% of the bugs value
as long as ur using the SS turned ambush outside stealth ur getting most of the bugs benifit
glass mortar
if audacity is procced u want to cast the SS turned into ambush
without audacity u cast normal ambush yes
u technically need SS bound in stealth to fully maximize the bug
alot of people dont bother for 0.5% dps tho
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> do you prefere KiR or HO gameplay (dont include damage num...
I hate ho
sharp hinge
but why
timber zephyr
less bugs to abuse
vivid vessel
Mostly because the builder rules are less interesting imo, I love the fth management where you build again instead of sending ps if it would overcap
That's like one of my favorite things in the game
haughty wigeon
yeah posting that in here claiming its a "fix" is dumb asf lowkey
being sarcastic
vivid vessel
I also don't like ambush animation it's slow and sluggish kinda
glass mortar
kir gets to play deft
haughty wigeon
its just such random thing
haughty wigeon
that i wanted to share
vivid vessel
I also hate spamming ambush in subt
civic zephyr
being sarcastic
fair
vivid vessel
I also love kir the button itself, fishing for CTO buffs then extending good stuffs goes crazy
And I love deft
And ye
That's about it I guess
Also ho is easier
vivid vessel
So it's for dumb people
civic zephyr
what talents do you play in raid typically then? do you play kir?
vivid vessel
the CP generation is jsut ridiculous
Me when guy keeps spamming that outlaw has too much cp gen but refuse to play anything else than ho 
frail veldt
hahaha
proven ocean
hahaha
frail veldt
yeah play 1pt fth kir in ST and tell me outlaw has too much cp gen
proven ocean
Cookedwoo
vivid vessel
yeah play 1pt fth kir in ST and tell me outlaw has too much cp gen
Fr
frail veldt
if anything it just emphasizes outlaws energy issue
feast or famine systems are unfun
proven ocean
Cookedwo
proven ocean
cookedwo
frail veldt
doin a cosplay today
proven ocean
cookedwo
glass mortar
i mean
haughty wigeon
i think i want it to be brainless
glass mortar
thats just outlaws energy always and forever
glass mortar
dont think theres ever been a period outlaws energy wasnt feast of famine
vivid vessel
@toxic star I actually forgot about the enchants btw, it's probably a sign I shouldn't change
glass mortar
its a weird resource for a spec designed to be apm capped
civic zephyr
i like kir more, but doesnt HO do better in raid? or am i misunderstanding someething
frail veldt
dont think theres ever been a period outlaws energy wasnt feast of famine
it felt fine in SL
tbh
vivid vessel
dont think theres ever been a period outlaws energy wasnt feast of famine
What
frail veldt
and early DF pre rework
proven ocean
@timber quail man i had such a heavy ass sleep
haughty wigeon
we shouldnt be asking for the removal of playstyles to dumb down the spec overal
proven ocean
Wait
vivid vessel
Ok we wilding rn weran
haughty wigeon
heck
frail veldt
<@214529290698489856> man i had such a heavy ass sleep
thats good whatd you do different
proven ocean
Weong mewo
glass mortar
well what do u mean zac
frail veldt
oh
glass mortar
either u have infinite energy and never notice it
proven ocean
@frail veldt
glass mortar
or u run out
depending on the outlaw time period
we have never had energy management
vivid vessel
It was never like this weran
timber quail
Who ping me
glass mortar
or engagement
vivid vessel
Never
glass mortar
????
frail veldt
<@151872253229924352>
@proven ocean
proven ocean
Who ping me
@frail veldt did
vivid vessel
It was never as bad as now
glass mortar
when did outlaw manage energy
covert kestrel
Who ping me
who tf is this imposter
vivid vessel
Without ADR you have less than sin apm
glass mortar
even when we had tea for half a season
timber quail
vivid vessel
I'm not talking about managing energy
glass mortar
what are we talking about rn
frail veldt
we have never had energy management
lack of management isnt a requirement for it being not feast or famine
vivid vessel
You are saying outlaw always been that bad
frail veldt
Who ping me
wait wtf
glass mortar
well if u dont interact with energy in anyway how do u ever notice it as a resource mewo
frail veldt
whos this imposter
vivid vessel
well if u dont interact with energy in anyway how do u ever notice it as a resou...
When You have none ??
proven ocean
outlaw op
glass mortar
yes so famine
vivid vessel
Yo weran
proven ocean
huge st dps
frail veldt
well if u dont interact with energy in anyway how do u ever notice it as a resou...
it doesnt need to be a resource you play around
glass mortar
it either runs out and feels like shit
frail veldt
you can run out of energy
glass mortar
or u press buttons forever
vivid vessel
We are talking about how energy starved current outlaw get
frail veldt
and have it not feel awful
proven ocean
destroying mountains
proven ocean
ascending the heavens
glass mortar
u mean like how long u starved for?
proven ocean
selling soup
frail veldt
from feast or FAMINE
feast or STARVATION
the severity of the hunger part is whats relevant here
vivid vessel
I mean bro the energy in SL was so crazy we were playing no qd builds, never pressing pistol shot btw
Haha
Like
It's not even close
glass mortar
yea there have been times we literally had infinite
vivid vessel
There was 0 famine in SL
proven ocean
highest st in ptr
vivid vessel
Legit 0
Not like we have rn
We didn't have any energy issue in df either till the rework
proven ocean
frail veldt
yeah and thats not to say we had infinite prior to rework
proven ocean
Mewo
frail veldt
itw as just well balanced
glass mortar
because u used resources to protect from lack of procs
frail veldt
you could kinda run out
glass mortar
not on cd
proven ocean
What should i eat
frail veldt
but it didnt feel that bad
glass mortar
remember
proven ocean
?!
frail veldt
What should i eat
what are your options
haughty wigeon
bring back bladerush
glass mortar
very different vibe for sure
proven ocean
what are your options
Idk
frail veldt
remember when we used bladerush for energy
LOL was it?
glass mortar
having multiple "press if low energy" buttons and using vanish and dance for rng protection
instead of as "cds"
frail veldt
a button that just sat on your bar indefinitely until you pressed it maybe once a minute
haughty wigeon
LOL was it?
ya you pressed it when you needed energy or something back in sl
i could be misremembering
old killingspree
proven ocean
a button that just sat on your bar indefinitely until you pressed it maybe once ...
You pressed it only alot in aoe
frail veldt
ya you pressed it when you needed energy or something back in sl
this was in DF even
post rework
tender wedge
you pressed it to proc that bleed trinket from sepulchre
since it was truly uncapped
vivid vessel
having multiple "press if low energy" buttons and using vanish and dance for rng...
You can say anything bro I could have spammed SS out of ADR I would have never gotten as starved as current outlaw
frail veldt
and S4 I think
haughty wigeon
in keys bladerush i think you pressed it more often
haughty wigeon
in sl
proven ocean
well in DF you ran blade rush in ST
S1, s2, i dont rmeember s3 s4
haughty wigeon
not df
glass mortar
well yes we only had like 50-60% adr uptime back then
frail veldt
I didnt play outlaw back then
haughty wigeon
in df i think likewhat
frail veldt
I started on rework
vivid vessel
That was the mastery build in s2
haughty wigeon
s2?
glass mortar
our whole resource system was tuned around like 70 apm
proven ocean
In s1,2 in df we used it in m+
haughty wigeon
or s1?
frail veldt
I played very casually prior
proven ocean
i cooked the mastery build
plucky chasm
Zerooossss bro, waht u thinking about Sub rn? I watch casual bursting with sub 😳 @proven ocean
proven ocean
MasterCooker69XD
proven ocean
Zerooossss bro, waht u thinking about Sub rn? I watch casual bursting with sub �...
oppppp same as outlaw
😳
plucky chasm
Both so op ?
vivid vessel
our whole resource system was tuned around like 70 apm
What does that change tho, I'm just saying if I spamm SS without ADR on SL outlaw I will never get as starved as current outlaw does playing normally
vivid vessel
Stop agreeing with me weran
glass mortar
all i meant was that outlaws energy design has always been some variant of feast famine system
how many times have i said in here
vivid vessel
It's just never been that bad
glass mortar
in the same gameplay on live
i say this once a month
once a week
do u really think i disagree
vivid vessel
And I'm tired of pretending current outlaw energy is fine
When it's absolutely dogshit
prisma vessel
all i meant was that outlaws energy design has always been some variant of feast...
isn't that rogue in general?
frail veldt
isn't that rogue in general?
no
proven ocean
glass mortar
kinda but sub and sin are designed to run out of energy and explode up energy during major cds
vivid vessel
A new player probably can't play 20 s of outlaw without getting so starved he wanna shoot himself
proven ocean
glass mortar
law is not designed to have downtime
plucky chasm
<a:denting:1202275095024767096>
😂
proven ocean
zac typing rn
frail veldt
assa constantly manages energy
proven ocean
frail veldt
in a healthy way
glass mortar
energy is supposed to punish you
vivid vessel
You have to have a PhD in outlaw to be able to press buttons for more than 30s, and even then it doesn't work
proven ocean
frail veldt
outlaw prays for good rng so it can ignore energy then suffers when rng is bad
which feels AWFUL
glass mortar
like we legit go from the fastest dps in the game (us and fire)
to vanilla wow simulator
frail veldt
fatal flourish is a shit talent
glass mortar
with just rng
proven ocean
holy yap
glass mortar
and it is bad rng, its like 5% of the time rng
glass mortar
it makes the punishing downtimes worse as well
vivid vessel
I mean our energy should come from that
frail veldt
it should jsut be 100% proc
vivid vessel
And it shouldn't come from ADR either
prisma vessel
on a side note wish me luck on invincible!
worldly shale
on a side note wish me luck on invincible!
i got mine second week of the event XD
good luck!
proven ocean
on a side note wish me luck on invincible!
I hope u dont get it later
proven ocean
I hope u dont get it later
So that it drops now instead
vivid vessel
I have said that multiple time but ADR should just increase all our source of energy regen by ,30% to support us pressing 30% more buttons
That's it
It shouldn't be the driver of energy that makes 0 sense
prisma vessel
I hope u dont get it later
bruh ive ran this like 15 times this week, almost every week, not a single new mount >.<
proven ocean
bruh ive ran this like 15 times this week, almost every week, not a single new m...
Is the event still up
vivid vessel
You are going 30% slower already
prisma vessel
Is the event still up
yea
vivid vessel
Why would you need more
plucky chasm
Yap yap yap
plucky chasm
Xddd
proven ocean
sharp hinge
zeross why do you eat cats
sudden fulcrum
he's eating the cats and eating the dogs
tender wedge
yoooo
tender wedge
bro's about to get modded
civic zephyr
hey theres a weakaura that has a spell dropping down that tells you whats about to be casted on a dungeon boss, before it happens, anyone know what that weakaura is called?
sharp hinge
bro's about to get modded
ill take some mod powers, im down
tender wedge
hey theres a weakaura that has a spell dropping down that tells you whats about ...
it's called Raid Ability Timeline
it reads DBM/Bigwigs i think and just reformats it
civic zephyr
it's called Raid Ability Timeline
ty!
proven ocean
@frail veldt
frail veldt
I think that's just an nk65
frail veldt
I believe it
proven ocean
I have like
frail veldt
I've still never tried a wootint haha
proven ocean
Japanese themed keycaps
And
A strap that matches the colors
Ogogmgogmgg
No cappi
Oh btw
I returned the key switches
I just used lekker instead cuz they’re better for me
Unlucky
frail veldt
Not sure I'd ever use a strap
quaint mauve
i just figured out that sin means assassin
proven ocean
But ye on real gaming i dont have it on
proven ocean
i just figured out that sin means assassin
Figure out that ass also means assassination
toxic star
<@420293876159479808> I actually forgot about the enchants btw, it's probably a ...
stop the cap
youre getting another ping tomorrow 1845 st
sharp hinge
proven ocean
sharp hinge
i find it so funny that MM hunter has been reworked so many times that now its pretty much perfect, theyre griping about the hunters mark raid buff lmao
proven ocean
u should change the name of the emote
thats diabolical
What an idea hml5
Msg me on bnet u won a wow token
Just for that
quaint mauve
Msg me on bnet u won a wow token
craggy barn
its over guys
tender wedge
What’s over
delicate seal
i find it so funny that MM hunter has been reworked so many times that now its p...
Wouldn't know what that feels like
sharp hinge
Wouldn't know what that feels like
Just wild that they’re still complaining
delicate seal
outlaw lost against sin and sub in yoda triple rogue key
On stream?
craggy barn
yea
proven ocean
outlaw lost against sin and sub in yoda triple rogue key
poah isn't a rogue main
hes a tank
tender wedge
Oh dang well that’s definitive
proven ocean
pretty sure the outlaw could've beaten the sin rogue
craggy barn
probably if a better pilot
proven ocean
whast dungeon was it btw
proven ocean
sin is automatically the strongest spec out of the 3 in flood its way too op there
proven ocean
ye i know but
sin is way better
the funnel in flood and boss dmg it does is way too big
craggy barn
ye
proven ocean
bigger than arcane even
its that op in flood
we had the fastest big momma kill for a rly long time on live
way faster than arcane idk by how long like 20 sec iirc
blissful thunder
how much stronger is kir over ho on live
blissful thunder
also, is the crit special gem functional on outlaw or still just play speed
quaint mauve
how much stronger is kir over ho on live
a gajillion times stronger
blissful thunder
seems like a number!
glass mortar
how much stronger is kir over ho on live
Not big
Like 5% probably on average in dungeons
blissful thunder
👍 gucci ty delve man
covert heart
solid cape
Alright, I haven't played the game in like 6 years
hopped into a timewalking
what is this person doing
I haven't seen a damage discrepancy this high since the old double thrashblade cheese.
junior coral
thrashblade was goated...
solid cape
right? but like, nothing here should lead to this kinda damage. Only other thing is they are level 72, I also copied the talent code but
idk, nothing poitns to them being able to do this kinda damage
sudden fulcrum
tw scaling is wacky
solid cape
I mean I get that, it always has been, but not.. this whacky lol.
glass mortar
tw scaling is fucky and outlaw is very strong in them if it has all its talents
solid cape
especially with all default gear
solid cape
that's silly. like I said I have the talent code, they were level 72 with their first hero trait thing
glass mortar
ya thats full normal talents thats about right
junior coral
games doesnt really start until max lvl, esp in retail. every thing is smushed
solid cape
Yeah. Guess so. It is silly to go run a heroic dragon soul and get gear better than my BFA/Shadowlands gear
Alright well, if that's the average. Guess if friends need help rolling timewalking I go combat
junior coral
how yall liking outlaw on the ptr since the buff?
burnt ravine
even at 80 as outlaw I'm usually like 50-60% of all the dps in timewalking. (on trash)
glass mortar
yea
serene heath
Are we happy yet or still sad?
solid cape
rogue is my oldest class, combat was the first I ever raided with, I think I'm gonna end up maining enhance lol
covert kestrel
rogue is my oldest class, combat was the first I ever raided with, I think I'm g...
frank bane
Found a blast from the past. Enjoy.
sharp hinge
whos got the ele rick and morty gif
dusty tinsel
Everytime
frail veldt
Are we happy yet or still sad?
I'm happy we don't have to killing spree
proper bear
With KIR are there ever big stretches when dps feels super limp bc the luck isn’t there on rolls?
blissful thunder
New ks is no longer killing you though
isn't it still bad
blissful thunder
With KIR are there ever big stretches when dps feels super limp bc the luck isn’...
other way around tbh
proper bear
Or is it pretty consistent?
blissful thunder
kir makes it more consistent than ho imo
proper bear
Interesting
glass mortar
variance isnt all that different between the two builds
unless u go 1 fth
then glhf
gaunt phoenix
With KIR are there ever big stretches when dps feels super limp bc the luck isn’...
yes
mostly on single target
1fth in keys
tender wedge
So were still not happy
Imagine you’ve been walking through the desert for days. You’re parched. You need hydration. Then suddenly this dude runs up to you and he’s like yooo brother you look thirsty I got this water for you! Oh and by the way, I found this dead rat and then just dropped it on in there for flavour 😄
So like. You’re happy you’re not DEAD
but you’re also kinda like…did you NEED to drop that rat in there?
prisma heron
Do I dispatch at 5 or 6? Wowhead says 6 but when I see YT videos they send at 5
tender wedge
Like you could have spent less effort and just not put the rat in
frail veldt
Do I dispatch at 5 or 6? Wowhead says 6 but when I see YT videos they send at 5
both
well depends on the build
as HO
you dispatch at 5 if you have either an ambush proc or a PS proc ready
otherwise 6
prisma heron
HO for now until o get the right haste
frail veldt
most of the time you will have one of those procs ready
so if you only followed 1 cp rule it would be 5 imo
but the true answer is both
sudden fulcrum
but you’re also kinda like…did you NEED to drop that rat in there?
lmao imagine not getting MAXIMUM protein by eating the rat
not gonna make it brah
tender wedge
There’s always gonna be some degen rat enjoyers
sudden fulcrum
tender wedge
I’m speaking generally ☺️
frozen lotus
i assume it isn't that big of a deal if i have a dagger in my oh instead of anything else?
frail veldt
maybe we will be happy in 6 months
wdym patch is in like 3 weeks
sudden fulcrum
!oh
ornate heathBOT
A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more 
Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, 
Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.
frail veldt
i assume it isn't that big of a deal if i have a dagger in my oh instead of anyt...
dagger is better technically
tender wedge
The cudgel is super easy to get though
frail veldt
but right now the bis offhand for m+ is a weird cantrip weapon from the event
tender wedge
For what’s left of this season
serene heath
Im saying outlaw could be pog af in midnight
frail veldt
Im saying outlaw could be pog af in midnight
I mean that far out outlaw could be gone
who fucking knows
tender wedge
It’s pog now imo but maybe that makes me a rat enjoyer idk
serene heath
No have faith
frail veldt
thinking anything past next season is just daydreaming
frozen lotus
fair enough, tyvm!
serene heath
It could be sick af
frail veldt
anything could be
what are you saying
blizzard could be shut down
outlaw could be the only spec
serene heath
I think youre thinking to deeply into this
frail veldt
and they just make all specs different versions of outlaw
I'm just unsure what youre saying
serene heath
Maybe in midnight outlaw could be buffed like crazy making it sick af
frail veldt
they could do that next season
im so confused
what does midnight have to do with this
serene heath
Bruh
sudden fulcrum
at midnight we eat the rat
wintry solar
It’s pog now imo but maybe that makes me a rat enjoyer idk
Literally all the have to do to Outlaw is fix a few things of KS and it'd be golden
I hate being this close to perfection