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but not much
it hit the guys in front of you mostly
but idk
its impossible to play around
8yd is ok as range, but idk how it picks targets, still a bit sad that it doesnt penetrate
It's a big improvement over current KS for aoe
wdym
You can stay in just the right spot to hit everything and KS bfs onto everything
ks rn is faster, idk about the damage tho
Vs teleporting and it sometimes not hitting everything
you lose all prio damage
its uh
considering ks now does a huge part of your damage
Yeah but for bf it's nice at least
its really not something you want
Idk I don't mind that all that much honestly but I'm not doing big keys where that matters
if it would pick your main target only and spread shit with BF up think would be ok, but its random every hit sooo, idk about that
it matters because basically every spec in the game funnel
What if you KS next to an immune dude
if you dont funnel
AND
you lose prio
with more targets
you are doing tank damage
in term of prio
and thats just bad
Well just during ks I guess
that would be ideal, i just wanted it to penetrate targets smh
missed an opportunity there
but idk i guess the prio damage loss is just exacerbated by the fact we deal 0 st damage on ptr
bfing the ks damage is prolly "ok"
i just dont really like the idea that outlaw, the prio damage spec
is one of the lowest prio damage spec in the game
causde every spec in the game funnel now
havent tried ptr , so cant say, from what ive seen ppl stream, outlaw seems similar to whats it now in m+ at least
nah not even close
with the recent buff overall we are starting to catch up
like the aoe is ok
but the st is dreadfull
im not too worried tho
ur dreadful
lmao
got'em
and then we blast

inb4 they nerf tier set again
to strike again, would it be better to have reset?
the first change was mostly a gameplay thing
strike again is better
it auto consume
you odnt have to press a buidler again
then it got buffed by 5% , and 4p coup went from 100% damage to 150%
they did all of that while the tier set was 30% for sub
which is crazy
so idk
i dont even wanna know how much the tier set is worth for ubs rn
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
prolly a crazy number
you technically overcap less
but for outlaw i dont think that matters
strike again is also better because it applies to all unseen blades, not just the one that is tied to the 20s cooldown
being forced to press ss more just lead to you losing them
hmmm
i dont like sub so idk shit about it
im just telling you
the tier was worth around 30% before buffs
idk
its prolly out of control now
idk if blizzard cares or not
idk how they fix tuning between the 2 specs either
not my job
assn is like 16% or something like that no?
eeeh, kinda same as sub just using shiv as a buff
they already tuned deathstalker tier to have different values between sub and assa, they can do the same for trickster if its too strong for sub
they did ?
weird they didnt do that for this set
like i feel like this buff this reset
was targeted for outlaw
you would never buff the set for sub
30% extra damage from deathstalker effects for ass vs 50% for sub
unless you legit dont care that the set is omega giga for sub
cause sub baseline is weaker ?
idk
usually they tryu to have all tier set close to each other in term of value
and aura buffs specs
maybe they decided they dont care for this tier tho
and will just let sub have a 50% tier set
doesnt matter in the end
end number is what matters
Its 50% for both now
But ye it was different
tier set tuning so far is weird as hell
ye i realized after reading that
so i was wrong but the point still stands
ye
it was the same iwth undermine set, assn looked horrible in the beginning
we shall see

what's msi
ah
no
you watching censi?
ofc i do
i was in bed and i couldnt sleep
lizard
im playing a hunter in my 2nd guild next season
yes I am but I don't see how that's relevant
wait what liz
outlaw at the bottom of every ptr raid spreadsheet
surely we get buffed
i dont have walls
i think we will get buffed
bm hunters smh
i live in the street
ye
im quite confident about it actually
you think I'd watch you through your cam? nah cuh
no cappi?
and they only tune around raid
if you are bottom st raid
you get buffed
and then we good in m+
nah
no?
what ya think of sjokz dress?
mm
i watch caedrael
oh i see
unless bm is blatantly op
ye the dress goes crazy
i approve it
sjokz is bad as always
so far bm is looking stronk
what the hell is that
idk if its better than mm
it doesnt matter til we are closer to season launch
true
fa cuh
dawg ๐
does that mean you hate me a bit today?
i do a bit everyday

wtf
to censi
A lot of evil today
he can handle it
wtf
!wa
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
lmao
ima not chomp ur cheeks
can we ask ptr related question here? or is there another channel
here is ok i think
uuuuh, think sim is still being worked on?
thank you, i appreciate
cancel ks at max cp
play loaded dice instead of sleight of hands
so you roll on cd but with loaded only
is there trinket that comes out better so far?
its better to cancel censi
how about a lil nibble or a light squeeshing of the cheeks instead?
otherwise you are stuck in a 10s chjannel
it s just a bad design
at least canceling feels better
the whole spell is bad design
who made that
whatever you feel like, you re allowed to anything
๐ณ
as long as i have some mc progress pictures
ye
outlaw in hoa????
the dungeon we used to pull 50 mobs first pull????

also the dungeon where you need 2 decurses
and melee sucks ass on last boss
i remember this shitty dungeon
for m+ yea, idk for raid
i dont mean to stop meaningful discussion, so i'm sorry if this is considered offtopic, but i'm looking to set my outlaw ui and ive never had charged combo points before and i cant seem to find a way to just get a number for them on my weakauras. anyone know how/can direct me in the right direction? appreciated either way
no, from supercharger
God I wish that was me
Hope ur have a good day liz 
you wanna use rtb then have 7cp +2 extras from supercharge for your finishers
oh yeah i'd just like to show them on my UI, i dont play a lot of outlaw (in fact im leveling a new character to try to learn it better) so i'd just like to show how many charged points i've got right next to my combo points, but all the solutions seem to be for the visual dot form while i prefer a simple number
Agreed

assa not played by anyone on ptr
@late swallow Do u think outlaw is too op in ptr?
I am
you arent anyone
plenty of me to go around
bit too much of me, some would say
spread sheets say outlaw is shit so buff incoming
you re a nobody zero
sorry to say so
+1 to that
Its just that ppl that play it suck
i ve nver seen such a bad rogue than you zero
no 1 is doing any dmg on outlaw in raid
sorry
am I pretending I'm bad or am I actually bad?
including the legend tomelvis
I need to know
Its called sandbagging
tomelvis is a homeless guy
LOL
Yeah outlaw is a little overtuned on ptr atm
He sucks, no offense
tompelvis is an impostor
tomdelvis the goat no cappy
Zac only does good on reclears when his guild is like top 20
I prefer tomshelvis myself
you can change the dot form to a number, dont ask me how im not wa savvy, i just use shit other ppl make
buff coming this tuesday
yea i have my combo points as a number, i just cant find a way for the charged* combo points T-T thanks either way
delete outlaw bring combat back?
anyone streaming ptr?
omg
go stream i cant sleep
hot
need something to watch
watch casual top
casual top?
yeah
confused
ah lmao
zac are you wearing cat ears right now
he s lying
nope
metaphysical ones
i m next to him rn
spiritual cat ears
no you're not. I'm watching you, remember
ngl I'd fork out extra for a cat ear headset made by anyone other than razer
ok immma 3d print one for you
what about actual cat ears taht go on your ears instead that on top of your head
i feel like i skipped words there
I have some ornate ear cuffs that have like gold wings at the top and makes you look like you kinda got elf ears
but cat ears jutting out the side of your head sounds dumb
i cant do that anymore
police came to my house last time
aw shit
am i tripping, or does vanish sometimes not open subterfuge window?
I told you not to use vagrants as the source material
Do you have a trinket macrod to vanish
ur a trinket macrod to vanish
get got cuh
everyone go play outlaw
in PTR
its doing 30% more dmg than everything
invest before its too late
infinite power
pistol goes boom ๐ฅ boom ๐ฅ
cow boy outlaw
boom gam out the wazoo
sheeeeeeeeeesh
lol
real
cuh outlaw gang on fleek sheesh ๐งข
cuh outlaw gang on fleek sheesh ๐งข
cuh outlaw gang on fleek sheesh ๐งข
Sadly not even
30% less DPS than the other DPS in st tho ye
its weird cause
overall damage is not that terrible now

you are last but not as last as you were before
why is zeross linking zac's details breakdowns?
lmao
is he
is he still mad
I mean he's not that good, so

must be yours
30% more dps than everyone omg too weak
that s typical zac
he has the mage syndrom
he wants to be above everyone by double the ammount
ikr
ye im very greedy

its ok , as soon as patch hits, current tier for mmhunter gets delete lmao
zac wants to be like my priest is on the xalatath emissary
60% of the group damage or cry
i want to be a priest to get closer to xal feets
but
forget about it
i didnt say anything
Its a shadow priest season
Legendary incoming
god I hope so
i opened twitter couple days ago
its going to be druid season
The Dark Heart, legendary offhand
gimma
i ve only seen people linking xal feet from a cinematic

Naw something already got leaked
some naaru weapon
that's not a legendary that's a cosmetic appearance
could be worse
Might be for legion remix but its a redone model
tbf
it's also a holy priest thing
for a hoa
For only priest
double golems first pull
wow players
are you still able to use gargoyles in hoa or nah?

unlikely

is dk still op or what
nono thats gone
frost this season ye
its broken it'll get fixed
damn dk pumpin
they removed uhdk
just to know how nice is it to not play
love the goalpost moving here
I have not seen Aug
can i see that log in its fullest?
"outlaw's the best by 30%"
provides evidence to the contrary
"doesn't count, bugged"
druid season 100% if they dont rework the tier set xd
the tier set is bugged
dont click zac link
he s french
probably a malware
It's an English link tho
it's not supposed to compound the 5% snapshot into the next dryad's starsurges
dont trust him
Censi - #1 Ramfam fan โ 5:39 AM
dont trust him
zac btw
im french canadian, so its ok im immune
are you playing other games than wow?
no
zac plays hello kitty island adventure
wtf, why you no wanna play games with me
fair, still only uncapped aoe class left no?
nope
game sucks ass
shadow's still uncapped technically
evoker does less dmg after 8 targets i think as well
i was watching casual doing halls last time
damn
and thats with plentyu of deaths
they would prolly be at 9mil + or smth with a nomrla run
well idk who that enhance is tho
it's a fantastic game
hey guys, new player here
Could you recommend any outlaw rogue content creator?
there are outlaw rogue content creators?
not really
damn XD
pikaboo, joking
llmch / zac i would say
draft bad
+1 for zac
idk if anyone else is exclusively playing outlaw
Dalarangaming ๐

we win next ?
we win next for sure
back to tank duty for brother doran
I hope t1 gets the outcome they truly deserve as people
interpret that how you will
I have no idea who they are
you know faker ?
If they're scumbags, I hope they lose. If they're nice people, I hope they win
ur a daps
you know faker right
who's faker
who tf is that
so how to u buff st without buffing aoe
im using fakers mouse wdym
I mean obvs a league player but like
faker edition
red death adder v3
you dont know faker ?
why does everyone know him
its prolly the most known gamer guy ever

you say that like it's a medal of honour
he is the best league player for like 20 years
won a lot of things
and he is known

by everyone idk
faker is litteraly






michael jackson





but ye he kinda is like a rock star
hard to follow what you two are saying amidst the blaring sirens of zeross trying to bait me into something
people know him
even if you dont know league
XD
legit no idea who he is
Censi - #1 Ramfam fan โ 5:47 AM
wtf liz
ok
listen liz
i ll have to educate you
that s important
censi educating the right person
ok well
you know now
I actively avoid league content besides watching my friends play ARAM occasionally
it s not about league
elizard real face leak =====> 
it s about general culture
nah I'm not that pretty
faker is faker
!
it s not about league
nah I'm way uggo
it s about being the goat for 10+ years
is there anyway to get an idea of how much dmg I should be dealing on a muthic + dungeon so I can compare?
yeye u should be doing 1000m dps cuz outlaw top!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
as I said, ignore anything zeross says
especially when he's on his red bull IV
?!
what the cow lizard
dont insult my redbull
what the helly
cuh

insult it? I'm saying you inject it intravenously
?!
that's not an insult that's just like, a fact
So whatever appears there would be my top dmg?
we will get some
legendary ass wep
for outlaw
?!?!?
i feel we get new legendary wep
no cap
hidden
no one knows
dont tell anyone ok
!
if you sim your character, then it'll give you an idea
no rogue lego before priest lego
wee woo wee woo 
you've already had like, 2 legos
okey, thank you very much
priest hasn't had shit since Benediction/Anathema
I will keep grinding the spec
new outlaw build just dropped
50% haste
invest before its too late
90% haste = 100% no downtime = top dps?!?!?
try and find out!! 
we need a slow mode, but just for zeross
u can use ur glue
too bad I ate it already
does any of you play HO outlaw?
ye
nope
What should I be aiming for? on stats
zeross
master of death
harbringer of outlaws
biggest pumper in town 
!haste
A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.
*But Haste has a **requirement ** because
Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.
The
KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after
Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.
The
HO build gets
Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.
You need to use
Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.
!haste
A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.
*But Haste has a **requirement ** because
Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.
The
KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after
Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.
The
HO build gets
Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.
You need to use
Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.
!stats
A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.
*But Haste has a **requirement ** because
Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.
The
KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after
Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.
The
HO build gets
Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.
You need to use
Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.
ok guys, thank you
holy shit zero
np !
stop spamming the shit out of yourself

!haste
A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.
*But Haste has a **requirement ** because
Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.
The
KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after
Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.
The
HO build gets
Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.
You need to use
Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.
!haste no its this
A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.
*But Haste has a **requirement ** because
Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.
The
KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after
Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.
The
HO build gets
Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.
You need to use
Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.
I am new to the game so I get confused sometimes but you are pointing me in the right direction
Hope ur having a blast homie, this disc is a good place to start
3/10
Yapper King ๐
you shouldn't lie about being a king

any man who must say "I am the king" is no true king
ross pushes the cringe meta more than the keys meta
hi mad guy
u calmed down now
guys
fun fact
frontier is always mad
no cappi
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
!
mad about what and who lol
frontier's been fine whenever I've interacted with them
fronteir
[TOES]
โ 5:56 AM
mad about what and who lol
seems more likely that you just make people mad
the call is coming from inside the house
Fronteirโs just mad because weโre one week into the tour, and thereโs been 0 mountain stages
Iโm mad too
Fronteirโs just mad because weโre one week into the tour, and thereโs been 0 mountain stages
Iโm mad too
guys
no cappi tho
did anyone try eating a cat
i wonder how they taste like
?"!

im concerned about next season
I've eaten chinese food in Nuneaton, chances are I've eaten cat inadvertently at some point

in halls and gambit

Does the Capo Hero weapon work the same? I don't have access to the Myth weapon. (dinner)
y
oh
its mega cancer to do
hi mewo
hi liz
how you
maybe kidney shot value?
Mewo โ 5:58 AM
hi liz
in halls all the little guys run away under 50%
Hey mewo
for runners
HELLO MEWO
uh
good
IM ISSED YOU
there is like
just got done doing errands
10 guys per pack
sup ross
mewo
you have 10 kidneys
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
oh

good good
yeah I keep spares in my fridge, is that a crime now?
in gambit idk how it works
Is it good if I ask more questions?
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh u make them some beans coffee?
not grinder coffee
its similar they run when they are low kiunda
nah we went out to get coffee
yes you can ask questions
nothing that nice though
Of course man go for it
this disscord is made for that
N ICENICNEI
mewo mewo
btw
btw
!!
alert alert
no cappi
im listening
actually
i have nothing to say i was just trying to say a thought that didnt even exist in my brain
im gonna go take a piss brb
quick @rare rose get your questions in before ross comes back and vibrates on his keyboard more
ofc it does, his brain is incapable of having thought
So I have a max Ilevel crafted weapon with the embelishment elemental focusing lens, does that work even when that crafted item doesnt have any gems?
it's just like constant tire screeching
yep
its based on the gems on your gear
any item
smoke and tire screeching
and burnt rubber
once he picks a direction though he kinda cooks ig
ok thanks for the answer
broken clock yadda yadda
i think its more of the million monkeys with a typewriter conundrum, with sheer amount of messages hes bound to strike genius at some point
it just reads FF:FF
yup
which one
now if you leave a dungeon you get a leaver buster thing
Ff system?
oh that
ff@20
you have to forfeit the dungeon
Ohhh shit interesting
which one?
you just get a timer
the vote quit one
Is it like the deserter debuff from lfg?
like "deserter" debuff from pvp?
exactly like that
thats actually so dumb
no
so do you have ot vote to disband the group?
you have a big ass message
except you also get grouped with other leavers if you keep doing it
how do you leave a key?
in the middle of your screen
but
anytime you exit a key
thats how key prog works
forfeit
nah but you can still exit
its just annoying
cause you are getting spammed
by blizzard message
if you keep leaving keys without forfeiting, you get an icon in the lfg that tells people you a leaver, and completing keys is the only way to get rid of it
well idk if it fucks with the queue or not
if you are in a full grp
prolly still does
you get bad points basially
when you levae dungeons without forfeiting
tl;dr stop quitting on keys
anyway, gn guys, was fun, need sleep, thanks zac and solo for the help, wont ping cuz i dont like it
but the leader should have the option to deactivate it
nah ping 'em exe
but some keys are over
exert dominance
cause it get annoying in grps
then forfeit
yeah but if someones afk
then its just fucked right?
forfeit is a majority vote
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