#outlaw
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movin that ks number up to like 35 seconds? isntead of 20
yea munching ks cd going to be way more punishing

zacs dream
why? if you send a CB'd Dispatch it should be the dispatch that auto-crits not the coin
the dispatch would consyume cb first tho
unless ytou pressed it after
which you did
otherwise you would have critted your dispatch
coins are after
whats the consensus Zac, are we on par with other dps specs now?
no
ask again in 2 weeks
when they fix ks
and i stop getting cancer
to my asshole
everytime i do a key
god damn zac has ass cancer
im not even allowed to cancel ks anymore now
they actually managed to make it worse
which is crazy
considering it was already
terrible
is KS mandatory for us?
still not worth full cast CS even with 43% buff?
anyoine tell me im getting mad at a buff
KS*
i will fight
it is worth
1v1 now
what buff
1v1me bro
Zac is a firm believer that we need to be OP to be competetive
lul
100000 years hyperbolic time chamber radiation exposure or 10min ptr outlaw what gives u more cancer

why is zac
Hahahaha
Probably because they buffed KS numerically instead of addressing the complaints about the longer cd
this is with pressing dispatch and CB being active for 2-3 seconds already, so it doesn't have to do with CB timing
Maybe the channel will feel better knowing it's hitting like a truck at least
MAIN GAUCHE
they be like "ya but like rupture here no ?"
idk
cb is supposed to get consumed by dispatch first
who knows
either it was always broken or this is a new broken thing
i wish theyd remove it
and I was looking away so there were no auto-attacks, the MG proc is from dispatch
is this OP or is it just 4.5% of my damage cuz im 698 witha 723 trinket
were you hitting dead dummies
dummies?
its insane tho i see sexual harassment in the assa channel more than actual discussion of the videogame
its an execute
i dont think so
that trinket does seem good
but maye
Outlaw execute 
xD
True, and ?
on average itll deal 100% damage amp (100 -> 0 health) so like
itll deal 2/3rd of that damage in reality
after the 100 millionth time u make the same joke it has to not be funny to u anymore right
I'm playing sin, i'll let you guess my answer 

https://youtu.be/rZSfpOVlXgg?si=uPN725Wd3d1UtJbR&t=1345
it's sad and funny
What is the problem with fatebound?
does ks doing dmg and being hasted help us with lust
no 1h tricks
I need to start a running tally of how many people I’ve killed with 1h tricks
no aoe
wtf are you talking about 
i mean
if fatebound was meta in m+ it would do aoe
but it cant become meta because it has no tricks
real
ryukage was right with his 38% haste build to hasten KS 
19 flawless forms for a whole vanish window mmmmm
ryukage was always right, they banned him because he spoke the truth
Isnt fatebound easier to Play? I am only alt rogue
i get the joke but considering the shit he actually said to get banned this isnt a good look king

sorry i have to commit to the bit
zacs chat sometimes
the whole sexual assault jokes about ks were pretty whack
Hi everybody , I'm new here, I have a question: if I play outlaw rogue in an AOE situation, do I use blade flurry only when my buff disappears or do I also use it to generate combo points? And should I use blade flurry in single target situations or only in AOE?
you should check the faq
if u have this talent, u use it for combo points, otherwise u only use to maintain the buff
oh ok i understand now and yes i play this talnet 🙂 thank u brother
yo quick question, how do you generate and spend combo points in stealth at the start of the dungeon? i always see people doing that
if you mean repeatedly over and over then it is a bug that lets slice and dice repeatedly benefit from supercharger
is the 43% KS buff enough?!? lets hope
so just a macro that uses snd and then removes it?
yes but there is a specific condition for the bug to be active
can u send me the macro in dm if you have it?
you have to activate supercharger and then consume it normally once
then SND will bug out until your next real finisher
/cancelaura snd /cast snd
ty brother
do you guys want to hear something crazy i just found out
Azortharion, class writer for hunters uses Hekili XD
what like on an alt or something?
he was r1 hunter for a while
that link doesnt work for me
yep

fatebounsd quad grapple on first boss goes crazy
zac
new purple raid looks sick or?
ye most fights i have tested were cool
the hard boss we saw is mega trash for outlaw tho
but idc
its a sick boss
i will just play sub
whatever
Oh damn

Which boss and how come?
second to last
and because it has both damage amp phases and downtime flight phases
Dam
reroller
JPC?!?
JPC?!?
dumb question here: is the trick tier set buff only for sub?
omg is that solo ??????????
Hahahaha

real solo or ???
No
why does this shit suck so bad on the ptr
downphase, into aoe burst, into downphase, into burst destroy shield damage amp phase 20s window
hmghe
imma play outlaw yes yes
looks like a good outlaw boss
annoying cause you wont cancel it anymore
have to pew pew
but yea trickster gained at least 10% dmg or something
The dude that got banned a month ago from here for asking @fallow hinge dumb shit just applied to my guild and brought it up like it was nothing
Easiest decline of my life
Lmfao
will fb use ks after this change?
idk
maybe
I dont wanna retype it but its just wild why he would even bring it up like bro self reported that he cannot be normal online
dm dm
Wouldnt have even known
43% is ALOT
dm awang drew dayrush
what did he ask
i asked first draco.
Well that’s a win at least
At least we don’t have to do any weird shenanigans
he prolly asked "do it be fartin"
Ye but better than no damage buff
KS doing like 7 mil plus a cast on the PTR lol
who?
ryugage
ah
or however you spell it im assuming
he got banned?
yeah it was like an hour long thing a month ago
.
So instead of making UB proc out of FTH procs and BF they just gave it increased dmg and chance. They really want us to press SS
realizing im not gonna be able to prepop blade flurrry with this new cape around mobs cause itll proc its AOE lol
that wasn't ryuu
His name is Flex
oh then idk wtf were talking about
that was some other weirdo yea
I dont think there is any deep lore lol I just though Elizardbeth would find it funny
Easy decline tho
Exactly lol
what did he say
yea if ur bringing that up on purpose ur on something
"haha yea guys i got banned from rogue discord for being a creep online, anyway lets raid"
the blocked messages are the cherry on top
Nothing amazing like blue on 1st 4 bosses in pugs
We really need a rogue so I was almost desperate enough to trial him before this
im looking for a home
I dont raid in my guild as rogue, my outlaw is in a different 1 day guild
BM Raid leader ez mode
always the guilds that start at 5pm pst 😦 i get home at like 440
sent the app
I'll apply once my guild boots me. 👢
there is some serious mickey mouse tuning on the ptr
Theyre taking such big swings this patch
Idk where this new mentality came from
but like
something sucks? Oh lets buff the damage of that spell by 50%
normally ptr is imbalanced and they just do aura buffs in the last two weeks
idk whats better
this boss zac is doing now is just that eranog intermission but as a boss fight
interesting
the boss zac is fighting right now is a puke of purple and pink
Zac got beat by a dk who was dead for 2 minutes
i think if outlaw got a 100% aura buff it wouldnt beat fdk in keys rn
not even an exageration
Idk why they want dk to be so OP this whole expansion
ok buddy
slitghly exagerating
i dont know like i can click a button every other 2nd and this shit is ass
ks is cool tho 8D
i mean

better if i dont say
its w/e
like whats the obsession with dk
you can tell me, i wont judge XD
all people look at is the big number
even tho this time new fdk is probably the best the spec has ever been
actual rework
10/10 not memeing
BOS sucks ass though
ya lowkey dumb thats why fotms are the worst players in the game
and then theres UDK
yes udk
lets be real tho frost is like arguably the coolest spec in the game
i love it when my damage is based on a rng flesh blob that can sometimes not explode
abom being removed was so unneeded and such a blow to fun factor and a defensive nerf for bdk for no reaosn
just to double down on grips=raid buff
and then make nearly grips useless in this new raid
zac pov
is Arthas the new lk

even the dead hunters are doing more than outlaw
so we are doomed at 12th august?
or hes sandbagging for more buffs
yes
perfect, guess its time for more nerfs
well idk im not playing this shti but hopefully it gets buffed for your guys sake
for zac's mental health
its probably gonna get buffed
idc im not playing outlaw in prog
AREW WWER BACK?
my mental is very good
did they make us godlike?
the changes have been applied yes
bof hahaha
so I can put my DK back into its shed
you can respec your DK to frost 
sin?
Burst windows short asf
With no setup time on dimensius if max is right
Should be sub on that boss id assume
idk how the fk we are so bad at st now
because now is hard to roll buffs or something?
I’m very proud of you
Because our uncap is so crazy oh wait
Smells like sub weap
we got it bois
Is that from first few boss?
2nd boss ye
Pretty good
nice dress btw
ty
trinidwarf
:3
sub omen
tyty
i learned everything from you
unluckkyyy
isn't it better to be weak at start so you get giga buffed in the .5?
depends who you ask
only if you are a mage, shaman, hunter
outlaw goated in raid?!?!?!?
no, lemme explain why
what a gamer he tops 24 totally alive people with outlaw
zac will abuse bugs and all stuff to get the best possible rank during ptr
which will lead to multiples nerfs and bugfixes until outlaw is back to garbo
then they ll buff assa 3 times in a row

thank you zac
zac ptr testing and outlaw rogue balancing pov
where can i find the bang! weak aura with audio q for BTE inside stealth
don't you mean 5 assa buffs?
!wa
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
^
quick everyone stop playing the ptr so no nerfs
Think how much damage you'll be doing when ks gets a 10 second channel time
I keep saying it should be a 15s cast time. Not long enough tbh
Why stop there make it 20
They want people older than 30 that cant play outlaw to be able to take a toilet break during killing spree. You should get it by now.
i mean its an execute right (the name is KILLING spree after all), so if u use it on a target under 30% hp it should just keep going till the target dies or u do
makes sense to me
I should able to eat my lunch while it goes off
they want us to goon at anime waifus with all our new found free time just as god intended
Amen
wtf
makes KS xala drop her toes in the ground for aoe
Honestly get rid of ar and give us two charges of the new ks with a 15 sec channel time
Hopefully a dev is reading this
they arent
Well with the current changes they might be reading mine 😜
y r u posting imagines of a boss fight where the hunter and paladin were dead for like 1 minute
legit missing 13% dps
(they are losing anyway tho)
?
are u stupid
im watching same stream u r cuh
huh im talking about the boss dps
zac did 9.5b damage to that boss

didnt realize
ur right ur right outlaw is op af

missing half his ksprees on this boss

this is not a boss to bring 3 melee too holy fuk
Im sure hes just using one-button-rotation right?
Its just delusional to say outlaw is weak when its gapping everyone
all sandbaggers
ok zeross
now im serious
if you continue
doing this shit
imma just block you
you are so annoying
the second cdg sometimes bugs btw and doesn't show you a duration for the escalating blade buff until you press another ability 
whats best ptr trinkles?
was he sandbagging
its gotten so much worse after he switched to assa/their lil group fell apart
now he has to try that he knows were all watching
?
ur mad because outlaw is good and u think its bad
ur reseting the meters after every 30% dps gap
look my streamer gapping some randos in a +12 on ptr
must be op
ye zanag is a random
sure bro
you should be a content creator
My stats are wack since I've been playing sin all season but I'm trying out outlaw. Need to make/swap some gear. Double on use, magnet and keys sims better than pacemaker.
gapping a hunter
uh excuse me palazart is well known
and ur pretending like he isn't
!!!
yeye
yeye
yeyeye
the biggest names in wow
Zeross is sin or law beforming better
zanag the outlaw gapper
current and ptr
do I trust the sim and go double on use, or go keys/pace or magnet/pace?
not because he dies
stfu
stfu
stfu
stfu
you absolute
double on use is cringe and fake
dont talk to me
pure st and ur still top dps
you are such
with downtime
dw he has 700 ilvl
doing less than on live
ass
class op

dont
vs a survival
gonna be
thats what i thought too lol
hunter

magnet and zeethug is bis
i dont know why u dont want to admit outlaw is finally good
bro top dps while yelling at zeross, must be op
ye ikr
hes legit
top overall
and st
and still mad
like idk whats going on

i thought you guys were friends and ran keys together
is this a larp
nah, they are bitter rivals frfr
Can you guys take your issues to DMS like stfu u guys are both acting like children
wdym
we are friends
@vivid vessel look at this donkey he thinks we hate each other
u got a problem slipus?
its like theyre siblings
i do hate you
you continue like this
no u dont
they block each other regularly
stop lying
yeah you guys are annoying as fuck and spamming useless shit in here
imma just block you
but they'd also die for each other
its not fun anymore

no u wont
go yap in assa channel
r1 gaslighter
they do tho
i have had enough
@lone crow
you are just cringe
dont u care about me
anythng
@late swallow
see
they all care about me zac
EZ

anything is probably your biggest hater
nope
go back to assa channel
he isnt
ima mushroom stamp both of you
assa is bad
why should i go there
btw zac
outlaw finally good orr??
like
seriously speaking
no cappi
He said no cap
It s not
Yes or no
sorry zero
it seems prolly similar to like
5/10% idk ?
idk it doesnt feel that great yet
i think this buff affects sub much more
but its prolly alright idk
because they never waste UB
i need to play in phys comp
with a group that doesnt wipe every pack
ye i mean
sub tier set
is prolly around 40% by now
maybe more
it was 30% before buff
the coup thing is prolly really impactful
i was like why is this guy doing way more thasn me
on sin
then i realized AFTER raid
that they got buffed too

would be even better if it worked as advertised
i dont think anyone can gap me on sub
hello stealthi
im just being truthful here
same with sin
@fluid iron btw i wonder if CB will be bad now with all the excess CDR
How much stacks of Junkmaestro's Mega Magnet should I aim for before using it in MM+ please?
cb doesent care about cdr
you just only use it for flag windows
it does if we have a shit ton of CDR
because like
we're gonna send a shit ton of raw sectechs
its a win even if you only use it during flag windows
cuz of the tierset being so op
idk
i wont be surprised if we see some weird tea builds coming back
in m+ that is
What’s your in game character name Zeross?
eh
idk take a guess
It's Ross-Kazzak
next question, any special charecters and whats your realm
🙂
only 10?
you lose that number
:)
and they wont fix that ever
so idk
outalw is just fucked now
be nice, youre talking to a black hat 😉
Zeross-Kazzak
wdym be nice its just zeross
idk how you reworrk the worse ability in the game
and make it worse
its impressive
idk
its not actively trying to kill us now
its impressive nontheless
there was far too many when i typed it in
There we go again
i lose 15% prio damage
there was literally 2 zeross's this expac
the animation isnt even good
the channel is 10 s long
Oh well
or even 1 iirc
is it worth now supercharging ks btw
fwiw you prolly will, after we added the correct softcap to sectech, Tea is sneaking up,
i dont wanna live in that world
lotta zerosses
wasted damage
for pure AoE dmg that is
i dont get the random aspect, just make us blast our person in the face and flurry
CB is usually worse in real gameplay by a small amount
idk

cray cray
thats
but thats only when like
impressive
ur doing high high keys
Even if all the energy is wasted the mastery is adding up with sectech dmg going lower
iff ur not doing high keys u dont lospe CB dmg
there is no way in hell they just crank up the dmg and call it a day
i just cant believe that
they just did
idk didnt push in over a month
it took them 4 weeks to increase the damage
didnt lower channel
didnt fix the prio damage
hell this thing
where it
ye idk why realz decided to increase channel duration
goes on targets in front of ytou
its stupid
ye you can kinda do prio
but not really
useless
anti synergy
idk
just shoot changes
hope for the best
thats whats going on
it is what it is
its just so fking lazy lol
we have a half cooked ai dev maybe
last season tier sets were made by AI btw
i wouldn't doubt it
season 2
Calm down
same with 0.1% m+ title
it was made by AI
enterprising hero or w.e the fk it is
like wtf is even that
i asked chatgbt
top 10 gambling names
and shit
titles
it gave me that
xd
Goblins are about shady business deals and mafias more than gambling tbh
It’s a goblin patch of a seedy las Vegas esc zone

i love the people who spend
1000$ or 2000$ a season
for the useless ass title
that only top 1% and above care about
and real m+ pushers dont even use it
dude
??????????????
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU
im zeross
lul
no ur not
Zwrross
thats forsure zac
@gloomy coral dude get him hes impersonating me
new acc
Where did all these fake Zeross impersonating me even come from
??????????????
You can choose a new name, or Ill choose for you @indigo token
oh hey ross
ty
how was your coffee today
you change too
bozo
@vivid vessel did u watch better call saul
how did you get that cool gastly animation?
Yo
Rly good
Had espresso today
Very good acidity, high clarity
Was quite pleasant
Biscuit chocolates flavor
Trickster seems good now but idk
very good acidity, high clarity, earthy aroma, full and dark and heavy, with just a tinge of sweetness to off-set the bitterness
Vibe
don’t miss soaks and don’t die with bomb
@vivid vessel

Dude
Bettercall saul season 5 is funny af
Saul becomes a full on r1 gaslighter
You’ll see what i mean when u reach there

Any knowers know if the new tier change for trickster works as intended for outlaw
IE does it buff the second coup by 50%

i think its the first idk
shits impossible to read
eh '
does it even work
does it work for sub
idk
im too cooked rn to understand
Yesnt
Buffs the first coup, but not shadowed finishers
So its effectively +30% to the first coup instead of +50% to the second one
looks like it's the first one being buffed
both are 7cp CdG
choose my name pwease 

of course i cant just look at a log 
the only title i care about is your stream's title


Censi - #1 Ramfam fan — 3:38 AM
hello koffing
you re the cutest purple in this discord
but dont tell others

i think zeross might be the strongest yapper of today
zero is a baby yapper
i taught him everything about yapping
yet he s still failing to yap proprely

the stronger yapper was the guy who got banned in 1 day
the strength of a yapper is yapping without getting banned
I feel like people dont get banned that often here
someone who got banned here today
wait
trusting a guy with a face tattoo
LOL
what was the meme already?
Welp
let me find it
is that post malone
he just really hates xalatath
No i think they are a troubled person

Sounds about right yeah
Okay I mean outside of like a legit breakdown there aren't that many vans
Bans
At least as a ratio to how much yapping there is here
Yap to ban ratio is off the charts
is that Scrim from suicideboys
zorthas playing outlaw on ptr
expert yappers
gonna help with the snadbagging
i love PAV
a classic
just saying
i know 20x better than you
even as a non wow player now
just saying
i dont think ppl realize how hard it is to setup the whole simming thing
because im playing osrs
and their calc
is so bad
its incredible
Legendary
idk how the wow guys even made it happen
quite impressive ngl
in osrs you even do ur sim in a single click
which means 1 variable
and no iterations or random things
11.2 PTR part 4
[2;34mTrickster 2-set bonus – Unseen Blade damage increase and chance to trigger an additional time increased to 35% (was 30%).
Trickster 4-set bonus - Effectiveness of second Coup de Grace increased to 150% (was 100%).[0m
Just damage tuning, like a 4% buff to Trickster.
The 4pc appears to buff the first Coup rather than the second. For Outlaw this is perhaps a good thing, so you feel less bad about sending the 2nd Coup at low CPs.
[2;34mKilling Spree off-hand shots no longer count as off-hand weapon swings that deal half damage.
Killing Spree off-hand shot damage increased by 25% to match main-hand shot damage.
Net result of these changes is a Killing Spree damage increase of 43%.[0m
Unfortunately instead of lowering KS's duration, which was probably the most common feedback here, its damage was just massively buffed instead.
43% more damage is a lot though, we will probably not cancel it at 7cp anymore.
So you will have to sit through all 2.8+ seconds of the channel though at least it does 14% of your damage. But you are extra punished if you have to cancel it for kicks etc. especially if Supercharged.
It's possible Fatebound will use KS now too, will have to follow up after simc is updated.
Trickster gained like >10% overall (from tier and KS) here which should put it decidedly ahead of Fatebound for keys/aoe, which is for the best. Fatebound can have its time to shine in the raid.
Update <t:1752198000:R> - Correcting myself, I thought the new KS offhand hits might proc Main Gauche now but they don't
wtff bro
you are like
r1 yapper
or what
Yeah simcraft and the supporting infrastructure are better than like every test environment at companies I've been at
Genuinely
@gaunt phoenix
100/10 tool
wtff bro
you are like
zeross yapper
or what
@hollow temple would disagree

its quite massive





