THE SHAREHOLDERS
#outlaw
late swallow
new solo is a shareholder tyrant puppet
wintry solar
This solo has a permanent poker face
late swallow
new solo works for piratesoftware
wintry solar
Solo would ban me for admitting I pirated Zoo Tycoon
mighty pivot
yes but if you want a more absurd number you can add SnC
proven ocean
coffee took too long
keen belfry
yes but if you want a more absurd number you can add SnC
i didnt have snc for this window
i think the math is i had a .87% chance to fail 11 times in a row
wintry solar
Slice n Cice?
proven ocean
slice the cocks?
mighty pivot
Slice n Cice?
shudup & cease 
glass mortar
i think the math is i had a .87% chance to fail 11 times in a row
thats like the quickmath but the likelihood would be slightly lower cause u also have a chance to proc SnC on each SS cast in there
unless u already had the buff
but yea that chance sounds about right
wintry solar
Should've used that luck for something else
brittle rune
What is this felony
brittle rune
Still waiting for the end of zeross gooning
proven ocean
btw guys
i did 3.1m st on ptr on outlaw day 1
and zac still can't do that much
skill issue or sandbagging?
brittle rune
Both
vivid vessel
Skill issue ye
proven ocean
u watched it on stream too zac
vivid vessel
Bro forgot he did that on a boss with damage amp 
vivid vessel
No but
wintry solar
has anyone gotten 10 btes in a row
12
proven ocean
Bro forgot he did that on a boss with damage amp <:HOLY:1250893440183570533>
i didnt know it had amp tho
random stirrup
has anyone gotten 10 btes in a row
had 10 before and it got reset when i switched pcs as well
vivid vessel
'u dont want to admit its good
Wdym
proven ocean
i got the debuff too every wave
vivid vessel
I never said that
random stirrup
so twice
keen belfry
this is pain in a gif.
proven ocean
outlaw does same dps as 90% of all classes in PTR
covert kestrel
What is this felony
vivid vessel
Nah
vivid vessel
No you aren't
mighty pivot
this is pain in a gif.
this is what people who ask for combat to be back want
proven ocean
i mean zac, i dont mind the spec getting buffed but u can't be that ignorant
vivid vessel
I have seen it every season
proven ocean
your doing same dps as a "cd" spec in a low key
keen belfry
had 10 before and it got reset when i switched pcs as well
this is only possible if you send back to back stealths right?
vivid vessel
your doing same dps as a "cd" spec in a low key
Ye which on live I would absolutely annihilate
glass mortar
u could do 10 in a single window
well it would technically be
the window + before and after
vivid vessel
Get to higher keys, let people leatn when to cd etc
brittle rune
Assa rogue is thrash
wintry solar
this is what people who ask for combat to be back want
Wod combat was faster
proven ocean
Ye which on live I would absolutely annihilate
yes and on ptr you would absolutely annihilate too
brittle rune
There i said it
vivid vessel
And I will get trashed
random stirrup
i dont know how i have 10 anymore tbh
wintry solar
Loser idiot nerd you know nothing
vivid vessel
yes and on ptr you would absolutely annihilate too
I don't tho
glass mortar
that would be 10
brittle rune
We are more doomed than u
random stirrup
because its 10 resets so 11 btes in a row
proven ocean
ngl
random stirrup
probably pressing bte after subterfuge ends with ks up like a noob
proven ocean
everytime i speak to zac i realize how big of a doomer he is but i respect that
your like THDLock
in liquid
fossil lintel
Could be lag
proven ocean
he thinks lock is in a big disaster
and it'll get fucked
when its literally fine
and when max asks him
vivid vessel
?
proven ocean
how's lock? (ITS OP REALLY AND EVERYONE KNOWS THATS WHY MAX IS ASKING), he says, i mean its abit weak and its alright
vivid vessel
You do less damage on ptr than live
mighty pivot
they are fighting for a second time already today. What a treat! 
fossil lintel
We're all doomers in outlaw channel, except guy
proven ocean
i respect guy, he doesn't make anything a huge ass deal
he knows outlaw is ok and in a good state
wintry solar
I'm pretty fine with it atm
proven ocean
its just KS thats long
wintry solar
Don't feel the need to doom really
vivid vessel
he knows outlaw is ok and in a good state
Outlaw from live to ptr get about a 20% nerf, while other specs get legit 30% tier sets
wintry solar
They're super slow to changes
proven ocean
Outlaw from live to ptr get about a 20% nerf, while other specs get legit 30% ti...
oh now ur saying its a 20%
u were saying its 12%
remember
when i told u
its 20%
cinder relic
50% tier sets
glass mortar
its 8% from kspree change and 8% from tier set
fossil lintel
But look at the bright side Zac, now you can shot random targets every 40 seconds
glass mortar
so 16%
vivid vessel
u were saying its 12%
Ye the tier
proven ocean
i find that ironic
glass mortar
dont forget tier got buffed zac
vivid vessel
Beh idk man
proven ocean
no he just wanted to prove me wrong
when i talked about tier set
and he linked sims
vivid vessel
Yes
glass mortar
i mean u are 16% weaker at least on ptr then u are on live
fossil lintel
People out there with legit 169% tier sets
glass mortar
since theres no tuning left
vivid vessel
You said tier was 20% which it wasn't
fossil lintel
And we sitting here waiting for KS to channel
glass mortar
of course outlaw feels like shit
vivid vessel
I'm talking about tier + ks nerf
proven ocean
keen belfry
remember zeross raid buff thing
vivid vessel
I showed you it wasn't
proven ocean
You said live tier was 20%
it was a specific talent set that made it 20%
vivid vessel
I'm talking about the difference between live tier and ptr tier AND ks nerf
vivid vessel
No
vivid vessel
Yes playing talents that don't work
For no tier set
And comparing that
Very good
Idk what your point is
glass mortar
its hard to 1 to 1 compare because the talent builds u play with live tier u literally cant play without it so
proven ocean
idk i just wanted to yap
glass mortar
ig what zac means
proven ocean
i have no point really
wintry solar
Cold Blood next tier btw watch
glass mortar
u cant just look at raw tier power
proven ocean
idk what tv show i should watch next
vivid vessel
Oh I very much can when sub tier set is 30%
wintry solar
idk what tv show i should watch next
Californication
fossil lintel
Cold blood? We don't have 3 points to take out on the class tree
vivid vessel
50% tier sets <:HOLY:1250893440183570533>
I said 30%
Which isn't even false
Even sub got a 30% tier set
glass mortar
the highest i know is shadows which was 40% for a minute
wintry solar
Cold blood? We don't have 3 points to take out on the class tree
You will ditch SC
random stirrup
30% isnt even super high tbh
vivid vessel
And sub is trash
proven ocean
30% isnt even super high tbh
vivid vessel
Boomie set is probably a 90% tier set my guy
fossil lintel
69% tier sets
random stirrup
its def on the upper end of tier sets after the changes
vivid vessel
With how much damage they do
wintry solar
69420% tiersets also
glass mortar
does it rlly matter
brittle rune
And ass rogue is 0 percent tier set
vivid vessel
But the average seems much higher
glass mortar
honestly
vivid vessel
Than most season
brittle rune
Completely pipi caca
mighty pivot
boomie ptr burst
glass mortar
who cares, theres not gunna be a fated season (allegedly)
vivid vessel
Is anyone
glass mortar
this is the end of expac design
vivid vessel
Arguing
brittle rune
Everything is weak
proven ocean
boomie isn't even 90%, its maybe 90% on sims but realistically you'll see it doing 200-400% more dps in some situations where u can burst
brittle rune
I am weak
random stirrup
<:Dentge:1229191197944451153>
a lot of specs are 20-30%, not saying 30% is a low number but it's not an outlier
late swallow
they probably don't want outlaw dominating the meta again for another season
vivid vessel
Again
late swallow
that's why they nerfed it
vivid vessel
late swallow
brittle rune
Somnius is cooking
proven ocean
respect to the rogue devs for making changes that dont matter
vivid vessel
me when outlaw dominate the meta (its not even the most played rogue spec)
proven ocean
me when outlaw dominate the meta (its not even the most played rogue spec)
thats because i was streaming most of the season and ppl copied me
wintry solar
Poison change from SL?
vivid vessel
ye prolly
brittle rune
me when outlaw dominate the meta (its not even the most played rogue spec)
Its bc its fucking hars
Hard*
mighty pivot
Yeah we needed that poison change btx
it was needed tbh it was getting hard playing outlaw on steam deck
keen belfry
do we know how long we were hitting dead bodies
proven ocean
yes
keen belfry
like was it before TWW?
vivid vessel
forever
proven ocean
since SL prepatch
keen belfry
holy
mighty pivot
since mop
keen belfry
since wotlk
proven ocean
since SL prepatch
basically BFA s4 post season
wintry solar
It didn't matter back then
proven ocean
i pushed that season
vivid vessel
basically BFA s4 post season
you dont know you werent before
cinder relic
It existed since MOP but it didn't matter cuz the spec wasn't target capped
proven ocean
i did feel it
cinder relic
SL was when target caps got added
proven ocean
you dont know you werent before
?
vivid vessel
ye
vivid vessel
how
proven ocean
outlaw did rly low dmg i didnt understand why
even on low mobs
i was topping dps on all keys
proven ocean
ye
vivid vessel
yo u dont know it wasnt hitting dead mobs
proven ocean
we did infinite dps
vivid vessel
bac kthen
proven ocean
on all mob counts
glass mortar
it is funny
glass mortar
remember when were were tinfoiling at start of this expac over ara ara zac
proven ocean
which was overly broken
vivid vessel
for example maybe that ss legendary
vivid vessel
worked better cause of it
glass mortar
into figuring it out
vivid vessel
ok whatever you dont understand
proven ocean
it was that bad
late swallow
me when outlaw dominate the meta (its not even the most played rogue spec)
if you filter for higher keys, outlaw is really well represented
covert kestrel
Imagine s3 DF with no BF bug 
vivid vessel
glass mortar
all zac said was we didnt notice this dead target bug existed for uncappedlaw because it literally didnt matter
glass mortar
yes exactly
vivid vessel
glass mortar
even if u had 10 dead targets
vivid vessel
idk
mighty pivot
It existed since MOP but it didn't matter cuz the spec wasn't target capped
How? BF was hitting limited targets until legion
proven ocean
it literally hits everything the same
proven ocean
???????????????
vivid vessel
i cant explain it better
wintry solar
Yall should kiss
vivid vessel
YUOU DONT KNOW IF BF WAS HITTING DEAD TARGETS EVEN BEFORE TARGET CAP
BECAUSE YOU WOULDNT HAVE NOTICED
proven ocean
YUOU DONT KNOW IF BF WAS HITTING DEAD TARGETS EVEN BEFORE TARGET CAP
BECAUSE IT WAS UNCAPPED
???
wintry solar
There are fanfics written between you two
proven ocean
BECAUSE YOU WOULDNT HAVE NOTICED
WTF IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN
random stirrup
technically you could have noticed because you would be hitting the softcap earlier than expected right?
proven ocean
the spec is legit uncapped
glass mortar
ok ross u did it
random stirrup
idk i didnt play then
proven ocean
and ur saying
glass mortar
u and zac r agreeing
proven ocean
brb phonecall
wintry solar
AUGUST 5TH RAHHHHH
late swallow
and ur somehow arguing
telltale signs of a troubled marriage
glass mortar
1 month to fix outlaw problems
civic zephyr
wait whats aug 5th?
vivid vessel
nothing
random stirrup
wait whats aug 5th?
new tier
vivid vessel
week after is real release
civic zephyr
oh ok, hi zac
vivid vessel
hi cuh
random stirrup
1 week of delves
glass mortar
😏
vivid vessel
ye you should
vivid vessel
I would be offended if i were you
proven ocean
vivid vessel
hm
late swallow
proven ocean
listen zac
proven ocean
ur telling me that how did i notice BF hitting dead mobs when my BF is hitting everything in the first place
is diabolical
proven ocean
nice
vivid vessel
should i watch s2
glass mortar
no he said u couldnt notice because ur damage was uncapped
and then agreed with u for like 10m
vivid vessel
no he said u couldnt notice because ur damage was uncapped
stop please
vivid vessel
im trying to distract him
proven ocean
should i watch s2
s2 is simming 10-15% less dps but s3 gets a new tier set 5% dps gain
s4 u get 30% dps gain tier set
vivid vessel
proven ocean
s5 idk didnt watch it yet
vivid vessel
okok
bro no heroic week
is so annoying
like how do normal people do that
how do you jsut
bang everything
week 1
i hate not having hc week ngl
late swallow
heroic week is awesome - let's blizz get enough data to nerf rogue on
glass mortar
u dont normal people dont even enter mythic week 1
vivid vessel
u dont normal people dont even enter mythic week 1
ok sure
glass mortar
unless race reveals first boss or two to be absolute pushovers
proven ocean
my guy said too much work
proven ocean
my guy said too much work
when hes the one who plays the most in wow atm
wintry solar
I thought that's right up Zacs alley
vivid vessel
when hes the one who plays the most in wow atm
i play from 20h30 to 1am
thats like
not much ok
i just do it every day when i can
wintry solar
5 and a half hours
late swallow
there's fr a neighborhood in NYC called Hell's Kitchen
vivid vessel
ok
vivid vessel
i have a job tho
vivid vessel
ok
vivid vessel
nah i just dont read when its you
proven ocean
desert tendon
idk who i prefer between zac and zero
because zac is cool and all
but zerocool is kinda a big streamer ya know
vivid vessel
ye real
glass mortar
oh that makes sense mb mb
desert tendon
tompelvis was way better than this zero dude
covert kestrel
Cringe that this tomelvis fella copied tompelvis and made it confusing for everyone
late swallow
I was just about to say this
desert tendon
yea
balmy topaz
I do miss @dense forge though he’s a FOTM enjoyer now
desert tendon
tomelvis thinks he s tompelvis
yea casualaddict more like FOTMIOGRIDINGaddict
gg
low sinew
is the PTR accessible atm?
low sinew
👍
normal forge
did they changed anything on KS after initial feedback?
balmy topaz
Classic blizzard
vivid vessel
thats actually quite funny
they drop ks
and are like
ye it prolly happen too often guys
i will note that in my notebook
good feedback
hopefully next week
balmy topaz
I’ve not played ptr yet
What’s the general feedback on it
Like actual player feedback
balmy topaz
Eww
sudden fulcrum
can you move whiel it's channeling or what?
sudden fulcrum
no slow?
vivid vessel
if you care
read this
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/outlaw-rogue-changes-feedback/2120193/57 and this one is trickster general with tier set
i think i was objective enough
sudden fulcrum
Can’t CC or kick during it. I have a job to do in dungeons and this spell gets in the way still.
lmao "can't kick i'm on a killing spree sorry"
vivid vessel
i mean its a valid concern
dense forge
Im in prison guys
vivid vessel
you are forced to cancel it perma
dense forge
tell the developers i love rogue
balmy topaz
It’s basically crap bladestorm
vivid vessel
if yoiu want to do your job
dense forge
but its unplayable
balmy topaz
You can move in bladestorm
vivid vessel
but its unplayable
its playable this season and you arent playing it traitor
balmy topaz
And Bladestorm makes you cc immune
balmy topaz
Oooo
dense forge
BIG rogue surprise
balmy topaz
“Insert casual approve sticker”
dense forge
haha idk where it is
balmy topaz
I have it but no nitro 
dense forge
its playable this season and you arent playing it traitor
Maybe true
normal forge
well, i belive they will launch with the long channel ks and in 3 weeks patch in to 1s shorter, or something
balmy topaz
I don’t think so.. 2nd/3rd week patch is usually dmg related this is more QoL
They can change it to half the duration keep the damage then alter the damage if needed
brisk crypt
Are we expecting many changes? I’ve been enjoying learning outlaw so just praying I’m not griefing if I take it to push for CE this season lol
vivid vessel
More changes to KS is expected, like lower duration
best i can do is "tick damage increase by time spent channeling"
balmy topaz
best i can do is "tick damage increase by time spent channeling"
Don’t cus they’ll change it too like one of those evoker spells
Where you hold it down
vivid vessel
balmy topaz
I’d cry
brisk crypt
I also wonder if FB will be better than trick especially if it lets us do 100% AR uptime
(With tier set)
gaunt phoenix
should already have high AR uptime
The fatebound 4pc is kind of minimal on paper, could help on certain raid fights
brisk crypt
should already have high AR uptime
Well I’m still learning but if I get ass BTE resets sometimes I have like 30-45 seconds cd left
vivid vessel
i hope fb is raid only
brisk crypt
Maybe it’s just me being bad
gaunt phoenix
you can have low rng where you get fucked and cant play the game
balmy topaz
i hope fb is raid only
Did you not enjoy eventful ways to keep coin uptime 
gaunt phoenix
kind of a longstanding outlaw issue i dont expect them to improve
glass mortar
the 4set should do something else on AR cast
red zinc
glass mortar
its so minimal honestly
its hard to complain about the set not being strong enough when 2set is so big
vivid vessel
Did you not enjoy eventful ways to keep coin uptime <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
i also want to keep perma tricks
its just way too good
in dungeons
balmy topaz
True
gaunt phoenix
The coin uptime is whatever, it procs so often with tier
doubt you have to meaningfully think about it
vivid vessel
meh
you still are incentivized to pull for your tank
you would be dumb not to
and its not fun
balmy topaz
Also crappy role play
vivid vessel
also coin breaking stelaht on adr is annoying
brisk crypt
I mean KS giving combo points back seems good I guess, another finisher for more CDR
gaunt phoenix
it's a bit awkward cause now you have to finish before you can spend the unseen blades KS just generated
vivid vessel
let it auto spend ub 
covert heart
Should have made it a gangplank ult easy clap
brisk crypt
I am struggling a bit on ub, is it something I need to watch or just another passive thing I ignore?
I am kinda just playing like “button shiny so monkey brain press”
Not doing awful damage but not great I’m sure
gaunt phoenix
for the kir build there is an optimization to prioritize sinister strike (as a builder) if unseen blade is guaranteed
need weakaura for it
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit 
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group 
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
shy meteor
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
covert heart
I am still trying to figure out if I should play ho or kir. I know kir is better but god my damage isnt there when I play it haha
gaunt phoenix
kir is strong enough to reward good gameplay but not oppressively strong to make it required
Imo vibe with ho
brisk crypt
I enjoy ho it’s low stress lol
covert heart
I think i get to panicky with kir
Especially since i have played the spec for like 2 weeks
late swallow
dropping new seasons in the summer is criminal
covert heart
My uptime with ho is like 10% higher as well
late swallow
drop that shit in the winter when there's nothing else to do
brisk crypt
Tbf my bad damage is probably down to stats as well
Still working on moving from assa to outlaw
covert heart
We cant have another 2 months of this season id kill.myself
I have the stats pretty perfect. I think i just don't have the apm for kir right now. Atleast processing what I need to do
vivid vessel
can i farm raid renwon doing same difficulty bosses on diff chars ?
brisk crypt
I have the stats pretty perfect. I think i just don't have the apm for kir right...
I literally have like 18k mastery lol my stats are fucked
prisma vessel
If i wanted to run fatebound HO for AoE, would i drop precise cuts for ghostly strike for the new tier set on PTR?
covert heart
I literally have like 18k mastery lol my stats are fucked
Thats a rip. I read the mastery before I even looked at stat priorty, I was like thats gotta be our worst stat 🤣
brisk crypt
Thats a rip. I read the mastery before I even looked at stat priorty, I was like...
It is but it’s also the best stat for assa so it’s gonna take some time lol
sharp hinge
It’s basically crap bladestorm
bladestorm at least gives an immunity to stuns and what not
covert heart
It is but it’s also the best stat for assa so it’s gonna take some time lol
Atleast you can get the bis outlaw offhand real easily haha
covert heart
It is but it’s also the best stat for assa so it’s gonna take some time lol
I already knew I would wanna play as because I hate dot specs haha
brisk crypt
Fairs
prisma vessel
is there such a thing as too much vers :D?
sharp hinge
no, im at 23%
sharp hinge
lul
prisma vessel
with flask
covert kestrel
drop that shit in the winter when there's nothing else to do
seriously so cringe
brisk crypt
I do wonder when midnight will come out now
covert kestrel
once again blizzard punishing the life havers
dense forge
wtf did u do
I play dk
timber knoll
casual how's rogue on the ptr man
glass mortar
If i wanted to run fatebound HO for AoE, would i drop precise cuts for ghostly s...
yes
but it just doesnt rlly do damage so glhf
nimble sage
apart from haste "breakpoints" are there any other breakpoints for vers, mast, vers?
sudden fulcrum
no breakpoints just sims
prisma vessel
but it just doesnt rlly do damage so glhf
thats fair, was just curious
nimble sage
also, big applause to all you guys because playing melee, outlaw is really difficult coming from other classes and specifically ranged dps and tank
meager idol
just rolled from Assa, i think i have too much mastery xd
dont think main gauche should be that high
craggy barn
would go hard in aoe tho
meager idol
yee, need to try in m+
prisma vessel
atleast you got the haste xD
keen belfry
also, big applause to all you guys because playing melee, outlaw is really diffi...
ty
prisma vessel
yee
vivid vessel
i assume, less mastery, more vers
@proven ocean why dis guy stole your name
vivid vessel
zayross is gay zeross?
mighty pivot
we have pride zeross at home
meager idol
because of this zeross i keep catching strays of "I thought I banned you multiple times" type shit from some Shadows
vivid vessel
meager idol
or "I thought it was zeross in my group"
meager idol
who even is this zeross guy
glass mortar
he a zerocool alt
meager idol
stuck sparrow
The days of tompelvis were better.
sharp hinge
who even is this zeross guy
Zeross is top 100 rogues
sudden fulcrum
all of them?
sharp hinge
right after me, yeah
sharp hinge
i bet Zac is so happy rn
craggy barn
zac is prob eating a french tacos
sharp hinge
wtf is a french taco
craggy barn
zac this guy doesnt know
sharp hinge
you mean a crepe?
mighty pivot
it's when a french lady invites you in for coffee at night
sharp hinge
not down for harry armpits and cig smoke
craggy barn
i may have gone to france, but zac is more of an authority to speak on what a french taco is
glass mortar
its a burrito with deli sandwich toppings and fries
covert kestrel
So which class discord was first to remove the rainbow?
Demon hunter ofc
glass mortar
meat + sauce + cheese + fries + whatever vegi nonsense u want mixed in inside a burrito
i imagine zacs has no vegies
sharp hinge
So which class discord was first to remove the rainbow?
warrior and druid still have it from what i can see
mage too
sharp hinge
prolly more gays in those servers, so they keep it around longer. i think someone in the warrior discord said that the icon person was on vacation
open meadow
!commonerrors
ornate heathBOT
Common errors for Outlaw -> see this answer in the FAQ.
covert kestrel
"we're not homophobic we swear!!!" type beat
worldly shale
Demon hunter ofc
Homophobic losers!
covert heart
Quick question as of now with the ptr(I know stuff can change) does the kir/ho gap seem to be getting bigger or about the same still?
keen belfry
buff uptime will be lower with tier gone and that tends to favor KIR in m+ atleast
covert kestrel
vivid vessel
ho is trash cause ho liked supercharger a lot
but you dont play supercharger without tier
or rather
supercharger is a good talent
that ho wont play with without tier
mighty pivot
rogue devs 
prisma vessel
that ho wont play with without tier
current tier or future tier
covert heart
Makes sense def gonna just get use to kir more and just get through the growing pains
stuck sparrow
rogue devs <:ReallyMad:1080459951752892457>
We have a dev?
I thought it was the janitor's hour of OT
sharp hinge
Zac and Zeross are our devs, and they despise each other
mighty pivot
zac and zeross are split personalities of the same person
magic idol
Why is zac allways use BTW and then dispatch after? Why not spam BTE in sub, or outside
sudden fulcrum
Between The Weiners
open meadow
Are you talking about the dispatch that triggers from BTE w/ Crackshot?
frail veldt
Zac and Zeross are our devs, and they despise each other
not sure I would want zeross as a dev
latent oak
Why is zac allways use BTW and then dispatch after? Why not spam BTE in sub, or ...
its just the gcd tracker showing that crackshot sends a dispatch after every bte
sudden fulcrum
yes
magic idol
its just the gcd tracker showing that crackshot sends a dispatch after every bte
That makes sense then… I’m new to outlaw. So he is actually spamming BTE in subterfuge?
balmy topaz
Taking a break has actually fried my brain
latent oak
yes
frail veldt
That makes sense then… I’m new to outlaw. So he is actually spamming BTE in subt...
yes bte is our finisher in subterfuge
magic idol
Cheers. And I am also using blade flurry as combo builder in aoe, even though it’s up ?
balmy topaz
I'm guessing it's 3+ use BF as generator
open meadow
4+
magic idol
I'm guessing it's 3+ use BF as generator
3+ mobs?
Deft Maneuvers) at 4+ targets.
craggy kelp
who wants to fund my 5090
magic idol
Are people having ghostly strike macroed into dispatch?
latent oak
Cheers. And I am also using blade flurry as combo builder in aoe, even though it...
only with kir build
sudden fulcrum
who wants to fund my 5090
Doordash does - time to deliver my dinner
craggy kelp
gaunt phoenix
Are people having ghostly strike macroed into dispatch?
not just dispatch
everything
ss ps bte disp ks
you have to use it on cd after all
magic idol
What is this amazing community, with people insta answering!! Thanks all
gaunt phoenix
this is mildly suboptimal compared to pressing it
frail veldt
Are people having ghostly strike macroed into dispatch?
!macro
ornate heathBOT
Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.
violet ferry
proven ocean
@vivid vessel ngl i find it weird that ur saying outlaw st is bad in ptr when ur beating ele and arcane on st on the worst outlaw fight this season with an entire minute of downtime
while missing druid and warr buff
he gets pi too
vivid vessel
idk if you are baiting
proven ocean
thats not even a random mage
proven ocean
overall has nothing to do with st
gaunt phoenix
ever since you typed that zero is watching your every move to talk about it on the hour
proven ocean
ur pinging me burst classes that are doing 40% more dps than everything in overall
thats not data
vivid vessel
fucking monkey
proven ocean
ur st isn't bad if ur beating them
vivid vessel
stfu
proven ocean
idk why ur mad even when ur wrong tho
everyone knows mage and ele are turbo broken
they're doing 30-40% more than everything in the game
so their overall isn't valid
they have 90% dps gain tier sets and shit
proven ocean
im not trying to, your just keep telling me that outlaw is weak
when its clearly not weak
crisp canopy
please for the love of god buff outlaw, this is so bad
proven ocean
ur doing insane st
crisp canopy
its very weak
vivid vessel
this is wiping on everyone of their cooldowns
i do their damage when they are out of coolodwns
late swallow
vivid vessel
and they do 5 times my damage in cooldowns
now will you stop
i legit
have no interest
proven ocean
and they do 5 times my damage in cooldowns
thats because they're bugged in aoe
late swallow
@proven ocean i think you need to do a PTR outlaw coaching stream
vivid vessel
proven ocean
and boomkin
yes thats every broken aoe class in the game
u doing their st is already a big sign
that outlaw is completely fine
vivid vessel
class is op
every single spec in ptr beating me
and everytime
its just
their specs op
i lose against everything
in st i barely compete
in aoe i get absolute turbo rekt
by any spec
and tank
proven ocean
mage has like the highest st in ptr atm
vivid vessel
its worse than s1
proven ocean
in M+
vivid vessel
even in s1
proven ocean
and its not even close
vivid vessel
with bugged outlaw
proven ocean
same with live
vivid vessel
why are you talking to me still
proven ocean
gingi with his mana conjurer opener did 2.7m end of fight
vivid vessel
im doing lower damage than on live
proven ocean
on candle king
vivid vessel
dont talk to me
proven ocean
im doing lower damage than on live
its ptr numbers so idk if thats true
pulls are bad in ptr
routes are scuffed
everyone knows that
vivid vessel
you rage bait me everytime i do a key on ptr
and im already depressed
doing tank damage
why are you doing that
proven ocean
idk everytime i try to talk a bout ptr you get mad
vivid vessel
you clown
late swallow
@realzz how come zac isn't doing any damage on PTR?
vivid vessel
but zeross wont play it
proven ocean
i play the best specs
if a spec is best
i play it
i dont think any spec is good now
but
none of them are too weak too
vivid vessel
i havent been wrong once about how i felt outlaw was tuning wise
vivid vessel
today wont be the day
if anything i over estimate outlaw every tier
last tier at this same time on ptr i said outlaw needed 10/20% bf buff at least to compete in m+
we got around that with trickster
and it still wasnt enough
and then we got all the bf bug fixes
proven ocean
i think zeross played sin because he didn't want to FOTM phys comp this season
i played sin cuz outlaw was bad most of the season till BF got fixed few weeks ago
then my healer quit and its gg
brisk crypt
When do the patch notes for the week on ptr go up?
sharp hinge
not sure I would want zeross as a dev
tbh its probably better that what we currently have
right Zeross?
prisma vessel
every single spec in ptr beating me
you go against fire mages yet?
prisma vessel
rip.
low violet
Don’t worry about patch notes. They won’t have us haha
mighty pivot
they will improve OBR to include wax
sharp hinge
maybe the hot goth mommies will like us more
random stirrup
@vivid vessel did you get new fellowship playtest
tender wedge
Would be classic blizz giveth and taketh away for make KS usable but leave the whole spec undertuned lol
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> did you get new fellowship playtest
no
i had to login on steam
on my browser
and that was too much for me
vivid vessel
i dont even know my username
let alone my password
i didnt care enough to try to get it back
actually i did
so now i cant login
to steam at all
cause it asked me about the thing on phone
which i dont have
the app thingy
random stirrup
apparently a very small number of people got it anyway
so unlikely you would have
sudden fulcrum
you can move the authenticator
vivid vessel
i prolly have to be a magician
ok but
idk my password
and they asked me
to login on authentificator
to reset
pasword
and the thing was bugged so i didnt bother
idk
cba
i didnt care enough
random stirrup
a friend got it and there are so few people apparently in the test atm that matchmaking is just taking 20 mins
vivid vessel
idk
i feel like they are just training their data now
like it takes legit 10 min
to go trough a captcha
sudden fulcrum
always have been
mighty pivot
are you human? 
valid kindle
quaint mauve
are you human? <:Susge:844558077842817024>
i knew something was off about em
lime lake
zacbot confirmed
frank finch
sharp hinge
wasnt there an AI tool hiring people on fiver to hit the capcha buttons
scenic stag
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
copper radish
i tried so much
Bot confirmed
mighty pivot
or a cat
jovial dome
He hasn't knocked everything off the table yet
mighty pivot
he's slowly pushing a vase off the table while looking at realz eye to eye
junior coral
!WA
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
sudden fulcrum
don't worry an intern is working feverously on it
bright crane
Intern season just started so
quiet ore
Who needs cold blood when we have new tier 🤷♀️
vital wave
hey guys, sorry to ask a such stupid question but I prefer cristal clear answer 😉
When talented Supercharger 2/2 with Forced Intuition (
Increase the bonus granted when a damaging finishing move consumes a supercharged combo point by 1)
- a 4 combo points BtE will be a 7 combo points BtE ?
- a 7 combo points BtE will be a 10 combo points BtE ?
vital wave
and what's best to send then ?
neat sandal
!log
gaunt phoenix
you still follow the normal finisher rule
vital wave
which is? 😄
gaunt phoenix
HO build - finish at 6cp normally but 5cp if subterfuge, audacity, or opportunity is active
KIR build - finish at 6cp normally but at 5cp during subterfuge
vital wave
Thanks mate!
covert kestrel
Thanks mate!
You're welcome
junior coral
!WA
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
late swallow
!moroes
sudden fulcrum
!the curator
covert kestrel
!ryukage
dapper herald
is fatebound played on mythic sprocket to not fuck everyone up with killing spree and polarities?
is that the only reason?
chilly atlas
the spec is unplayable because of killing spree, yes
dapper herald
lmao
chilly atlas
i don't know what other reason youd need
dapper herald
glad they reworked it then
ripe ibex
the spec is unplayable because of killing spree, yes
drone
dapper herald
i hate these hero talents that force you to talent things you don't want to
pale girder
Anyone have a favored guide to learn outlaw? Currently playing as sin, but....some fights I dont do the add damage my guild wants