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proven ocean
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im the best assa player in the world

sudden fulcrum
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man all you do is ego

proven ocean
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thoughts?

vivid vessel
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nice ego

proven ocean
median lance
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Someone tell the demon hunter discord to unban me

proven ocean
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you too

vivid vessel
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ok but its true

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so not ego

proven ocean
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yes but what i said is true too

sudden fulcrum
proven ocean
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so not ego

vivid vessel
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hgm

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make sense

sudden fulcrum
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also if you're so toxic you got banned from the DH discord you have no hope

red zinc
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mf got

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popsicle blades

hollow temple
median lance
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When is the discord profile pic being turned into an American flag?

hollow temple
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lol sit zac

vivid vessel
vivid vessel
proven ocean
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wtf

sharp hinge
proven ocean
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ur supposed to say the opposite zac

red zinc
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this is u

hollow temple
shy pecan
sharp hinge
proven ocean
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@hollow temple my prayer expires in 3 hours

hollow temple
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_>

glass mortar
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wait did a new season start or u guys r just playing standard

hollow temple
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standard

glass mortar
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ah ok

proven ocean
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what season are u waiting for ur liteerally lvl 70

glass mortar
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bet my guy is still afk in the wizard tower from splash training

proven ocean
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u didnt even play half the game

glass mortar
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?

abstract frost
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runescape has seasons?

glass mortar
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bitch i played the game 20 years ago

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and beat it

proven ocean
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ur lvl 70 bro

glass mortar
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i go back to osrs for nostalgia and seasons

proven ocean
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what did u beat

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no offense ofc

sharp hinge
vivid vessel
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like

proven ocean
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im just confused

vivid vessel
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isnt it just better

glass mortar
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i beat actual oldschool runescape

vivid vessel
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with real sword shape

glass mortar
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like 2008 oldschool runescape

hollow temple
glass mortar
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๐Ÿ˜ 

vivid vessel
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why are we getting squared shape swords everytime

glass mortar
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and now that character is oldmaxed on rs3

shy pecan
vivid vessel
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is it cause sword shape is too dangerous

proven ocean
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not member

vivid vessel
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while squared shape cant hurt you

glass mortar
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the seasons r bangers tho

proven ocean
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what are seasons bro

glass mortar
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yea i was a member and i was maxed, i didnt ever finish all the quests tho which is why i dabble in osrs

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel i wanna show u something bro

hollow temple
sudden fulcrum
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when people start talking about squares i think of this

glass mortar
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they do seasonal content on runescape where u have characters starting from level 1 with massive XP bonuses and bonus powers/objectives and shit

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u can make like diablo esque builds in osrs

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its sick

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its like speedrunning sections of old school for cosmetics n stuff

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yea what trickz said

hollow temple
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we don't get another one til next yr

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pretty sure

glass mortar
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sad

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the last one was super fun

hollow temple
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i prefer the permanent progression on the standard game

glass mortar
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yea i get that, i still play rs3 on the side tho so that largely gives me my runescape fix

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel cool or?

hollow temple
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you don't keep anything from the Leagues

proven ocean
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i get them soon kinda

glass mortar
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almost remaxed in it ๐Ÿ™

hollow temple
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just cosmetic rewards that anyone else can buy

rigid basin
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Leagues is neat, I prefer just watching the content tho may actually play it one year xd

vivid vessel
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im a simple guy

glass mortar
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yea i mean i consume osrs content for sure it goes hard af

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jimmys playthrough of hardcore classic has been a banger too

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osrs content creatures r on another level ngl

sharp hinge
glass mortar
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reminds me of the good old machinima wow days

keen belfry
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All u need

vivid vessel
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cardinal sin

keen belfry
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Work!

vivid vessel
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going to hell

keen belfry
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Idm my apple keyboard for work

proven ocean
shy pecan
median lance
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I think my 1 button rotation is bugged

proven ocean
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tape mod, alluminum case, fully hand lubed by me keyswitches custom keycaps, dampening foam on all the screws and the keyboard itself

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and hand lubed all the stabalizers

keen belfry
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Zeross lube ๐Ÿฅน

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Most efficient lube no?

proven ocean
median lance
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My 1 button has no extra gcd just has regular gcf

keen belfry
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Or you got the footmen lube?

vivid vessel
proven ocean
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come over awang

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i'll show u how the lube feels

vivid vessel
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isnt just a normal qwerty keyboard

keen belfry
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๐Ÿซฆ

sharp hinge
sudden fulcrum
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zeross has 50 gallon drums of lube and holds "freak offs" in #outlaw

glass mortar
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which button

shy pecan
sharp hinge
median lance
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Like there's no gcd penalty no delay

sharp hinge
glass mortar
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how long is ur gcd

shy pecan
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dont wanna get up and walk into the other room to check Comfy

sharp hinge
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options key on the mac is just the "alt" key, comand i think is the one youre thinking about

proven ocean
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best post of wowhead 2025

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about darkmoon existing

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sheeeeeeeeeesh

median lance
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Like its using regular gcd

proven ocean
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most useless posts

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of all time

glass mortar
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well what is ur regular gcd

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u realize outlaws gcd is 0.8s during adr right

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which should be up 90% of the time

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not 1s

glass mortar
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so it should be 1s with the 1 button

median lance
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Really

glass mortar
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yes

rigid basin
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They just tryna seem busy at wowhead istg

glass mortar
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assuming u have the right amount of haste anyway

rigid basin
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Next thing they gonna tell us, iswe can raise some noodle dragons or something

late swallow
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Wowhead slop is awesome

wary bridge
sharp hinge
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i kinda wish they removed dragon riding

proven ocean
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proves the same purpose

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both useless to mention

midnight widget
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can you skip 2nd set of prisons on Mugzee?

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or will you always get 4 prisons in final phase

fallow frost
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I tried swapping wepons inside M+ but it doesn't work, only outside. is fixed or smth?

glass mortar
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u have gallywix weapon on probably

gaunt phoenix
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You cant swap gally's weapon

fallow frost
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so I need other offhand, not gally

gaunt phoenix
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i dont recall tier 29 having anything

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maybe i simmed something on request

glass mortar
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r u sure cause according to zeross we had some kinda minmax for it

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yea idr tbh

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could be, i thought that tier was a nothingburger

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like people were trying to find minmaxes for it in TC but they were all margin of error nonsense that would never make it into the apl

vivid vessel
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Yes we did

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We did fth > ambush without tier set, and with tier we would fth finish early then ambush

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Or smth

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I don't remember exactly

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But it was something like that

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that was like

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0.2% type shit

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OH

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?

gaunt phoenix
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huge

glass mortar
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now this is minmaxing

vivid vessel
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nah but

glass mortar
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finally blizzard tells me what poisons to use

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!!

sharp hinge
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we should be able to tweak the one button rotation to do what we want

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such as CDs and what not

vivid vessel
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no we shouldnt

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it should be dogshit

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its already too good

wary bridge
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We should do a raid with only 1 button andies

vivid vessel
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if you could just input the perfect rotation in it

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90% of playuers woyuld get out dpsed by this shit

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they already do

sharp hinge
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skill issue

vale warren
sharp hinge
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imagine the QOL it could provide in pugs

red zinc
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dawg

vivid vessel
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how is that qol

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to remove half the game

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or feel pressured to have to press the one button

gaunt phoenix
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i dont see a t29 condition in the old DF apl, maybe it was removed by the end of the xpac

vivid vessel
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cause you get destroyed by it

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it was definitly there at some point solo

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you dont rmemebr ?

gaunt phoenix
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i dont

sharp hinge
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either learn the game, or use the one button. same how it is now. nothing would change

gaunt phoenix
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but i can believe it

sharp hinge
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ranged gets shafted by the one button anyway

keen belfry
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sick rogue notes eh?

jolly geyser
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idgaf anymore tbh, im just playing the game cause its cozy

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do m+ untill it gets boring, like 1-2months ago. still do like 4 dungs

craggy barn
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huge rogue buff

sharp hinge
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is wow dying

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what will everyone do when more people stop playing

jolly geyser
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its just the people who cant play other games keep playing

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I play cause I enjoy it,farm shit

sharp hinge
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i did the rogue class hall campagn i got so bored

craggy barn
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other games and things to do exist, not everyone plays wow all the time esp when mid end of a season

jolly geyser
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outside season release whatever the fuck they do

royal ermine
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yo RIP unholy lmfao

sharp hinge
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kinda like people who play Rust

craggy barn
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lol they reverted breath pretty much

sharp hinge
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DKs were crying

craggy barn
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i know

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its so funny

random stirrup
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Lmfao those rogue notes

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Absolutely classic

craggy barn
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its so funny bc the reason to revert is similar to why some folks hate the channeling of new ks

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and u look at our notes

lone crow
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ROGUE
The Single-Button Assistant and Assisted Highlight now recommend more appropriate weapon poisons based on your talents and adjust their recommendations towards Wound Poison in PvP content.

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nice changes we got

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man

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so good

sudden fulcrum
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rogue is saved

lime lake
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holy fuck finally

sharp hinge
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who was it

woeful otter
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ROGUE
The Single-Button Assistant and Assisted Highlight now recommend more appropriate weapon poisons based on your talents and adjust their recommendations towards Wound Poison in PvP content.

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WTF

covert kestrel
median lance
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Just booked my Xalatoes tattoo im ready for her to be inside me

craggy barn
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where the fuck are u putting that tatt

gusty light
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.guys what is the easiest spec for mage tower ?

latent oak
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outlaw pretty easy in the mage tower

glass mortar
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subs is probably the hardest tbh

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none of them are hard tho

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if u wanna put a minor amount of effort in theres guides to find a bunch of gear with sockets u can cheaply socket and since ilvl scales u will be substantially stronger then u are intended to be

proven ocean
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The dev a fetish for all rogues freaking out on bad rogue changes

fossil lintel
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Shit, things are moving fast on the PTR for us huh?

proven ocean
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Sounds fun

fossil lintel
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As long as he reverts it

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Unlike the haste cap change

verbal pike
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Apparently the 2piece for sub trickster got changed?

glass mortar
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did they just

verbal pike
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so might be the same for outlaw, no clue.

glass mortar
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buff dev

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on ptr

fossil lintel
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Are we back to only having undocumented changes?

glass mortar
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hmmmmmmmmg

mighty pivot
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rogue dev is likely chilling at a beach in ibiza or something

proven ocean
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crazy dev buff considering its fucking op

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legit craz

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ccrazy

glass mortar
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yea

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ive heard its bonkers on ptr

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and they buffed it like they are compensating for nerfing its live tier set

inner stump
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dudes already reworked KS, thats too much effort put into rogue for this xpac

glass mortar
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buddy their ptr tier set is 25%

inner stump
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wait till midnight now

glass mortar
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?

median lance
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Rogue dev got layed off lol

proven ocean
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these devs are so stupid

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its crazy

rotund depot
inner stump
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on midnight well get like, 10x more changes

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so like, around 10 changes

sharp hinge
proven ocean
glass mortar
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thats

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marginally better design wise i guess

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why do blades always all need to be rng tho blizz

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zzzz

mighty pivot
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it strikes twice and applies 2 stacks of UB

glass mortar
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now whenever ur set procs as u earn a coup u just wasted the proc basically

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it did damage but didnt help u towards another coup

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so roughly 25% of the set procs dont help generate coups

red zinc
glass mortar
rotund depot
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yeah

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4pc the same

red zinc
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buhh

rotund depot
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and the buff blocking stacks still exists for 5 sec

mighty pivot
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max EB stacks still 4, still cannot gain any while 4p is active

glass mortar
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๐Ÿ™‚

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its like they miss why the set was even an issue

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i mean they got half of it

fossil lintel
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Does this mean we need to pick up the balls on first boss of dawnbreaker when flying off the ship?

glass mortar
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the needing to press another spender

fossil lintel
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I always wondered what those balls were for and it felt like they forgot a mechanic

covert kestrel
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Imagine if you hit coup stacks and it auto casted off gcd galaxybrain

glass mortar
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if u spend too long flying during the fights ur supposed to just die

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like on the chase in the last fight

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but the thing is people figured out it doesnt matter at all (on first) and u can fly straight to boss platform and afk on last

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i mean the whole way skyriding is implemented in the boss fights of that key is a joke

fossil lintel
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Yeah but that is the first boss specifically

glass mortar
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dont they refill ur vigor too

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maybe if u somehow managed to fuckup so bad

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u couldnt get to the ship

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idk ๐Ÿ™‚

fossil lintel
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I read it as you gotta pick up the balls when flying off or this thing kills you?

glass mortar
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well now it looks like that yea

glass mortar
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mf is aura farming that boss

glass mortar
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you know hes terrified of bubbles

latent oak
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have u seen its not bubbles anymore

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its bubbles jr

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unironically

woeful otter
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anyone can show a gif how swampface kill bubble

lime lake
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they killed bubbles?

latent oak
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bubbles is rip

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long live bubbles

covert kestrel
proven ocean
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@glass mortar

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still gives same stats at 723

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vs a 684

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x

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d

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"good for sub"

glass mortar
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what is ur point exactly

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this trinket is also giving barely more secondaries then priory

latent oak
glass mortar
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that thing is mega underbudgeted for 723 ilvl

latent oak
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bubbles jr

proven ocean
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i said it gave more stats

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like 1 month ago

mighty pivot
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i can't believe they made me feel bad about bubbles

lime lake
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look how they massacred my boy

mighty pivot
waxen acorn
pearl trout
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literal public execution

haughty wigeon
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BUBBLES NO

glass mortar
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rip

craggy barn
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holy

elder nacelle
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anyone have an mplus fatebound build for testing? the wowhead import wasn't working despairge

random stirrup
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I kind of liked the goofy bubbles noises sadge

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They didnโ€™t have to kill him Cryge

lime lake
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murdered him and left his child to slowly die alone

gilded tinsel
lime lake
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a little bit fucked up

remote pecan
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freedom Cheesin

mighty pivot
lime lake
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poor lil guy

mighty pivot
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bubbles jr villain arc

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he will train to become twice as strong

keen belfry
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@vivid vessel lil bro

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howd u farm darkfuse rep

vivid vessel
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3 nights

mighty pivot
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imagine not doing that back when you'd get +25% rep if you opened the token in sidestreet sluice garf_sit

vivid vessel
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intensive gaming

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for gamers only

keen belfry
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idk about farming rep bs

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what do i do

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i had 75 reserach rn nbd

random stirrup
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@vivid vessel new 2p thoughts?

red zinc
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i love motherlode ks puddle crash

vivid vessel
# random stirrup <@352916297262301194> new 2p thoughts?
World of Warcraft Forums

Trickster / 2p Feedback Hello, Itโ€™s me again, after playing more with outlaw on ptr I would like to provide some feedback, this time focused on trickster and the new 2 piece/4 piece. (Killing spree cooldown nerf did not really fix any of the issues I had with the spell mentionned in my previous post here, rather it created more issues that we...

glass mortar
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its better then the first iteration

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and somehow still just bad

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crazy how they just ignore pain points

random stirrup
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He already got the forum post?

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My god

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This is about the one we got 20 minutes ago?

red zinc
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he didnt

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idk

vivid vessel
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did they change something

red zinc
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yes

verbal pike
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ye

lime lake
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he doesnt know

red zinc
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its 30% double hit chance now

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instead of reset

verbal pike
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unlisted change

vivid vessel
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ah ye thats good

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thats litteraly what i asked for

glass mortar
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i mean

vivid vessel
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was the fix imo

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no ?

glass mortar
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u waste 25% of the procs

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so

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๐Ÿคท

vivid vessel
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why

glass mortar
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because if it procs

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from ur 4th blade

vivid vessel
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cause of 4 stacks max

glass mortar
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it doesnt build any

vivid vessel
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yeye

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well

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thats like

median lance
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I'm an outlaw rogue. Of course I like chipotle

vivid vessel
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another thing

glass mortar
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25% of ur procs

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1/4th

vivid vessel
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but this part is fixed right

glass mortar
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wasted

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poggers

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ye

vivid vessel
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so thats good for me

glass mortar
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it was a half fix

vivid vessel
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if they fix the rest

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ye

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i think

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if they like

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fix it slowly

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its fine

glass mortar
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def improved over old

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i just dont know why

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all the feedback that was like "its cringe we need to press a builder to spend and it can easily be wasted"

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and they just keep ignoring the waste

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idk

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they want us to waste

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players dont like wasting

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its not fun friction

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u need to be very specific with it if u dont want it to feel bad

lime lake
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friction is the only reason i play this game

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god i love friction

mighty pivot
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at this pace they might have just enough weeks to fix the remaining issues

agile orchid
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the rogue changes this ptr build are insane Pog

mighty pivot
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(with OBR of course, the main priority)

vivid vessel
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that part

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i just didnt expect it to be done so soon so

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its fine i think

random stirrup
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Escalating will surely be allowed to go above 4

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I am a believer

glass mortar
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ye i mean its a positive change to be clear

agile orchid
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my question is do we actually need the combo point generation part though

glass mortar
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its just funny it ends up still kinda shitty

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but baby steps

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!!

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more kspree baby steps please

agile orchid
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do you not get combo points while channeling?

vivid vessel
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ah that

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we dont need it

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but

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i think its neccesseray

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for feedback

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cause otherwise you do nothing for the duration of the channel

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i htink the cp gen alievate that feeling of being afk a bit

median lance
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Hold up pause

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Did bro just say cp

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Smh

sudden fulcrum
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what's wrong with combo points?

mighty pivot
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it's supposed to make up for the loss of CDR too

glass mortar
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(it doesnt) but its supposed to

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spending time in ability animations that u arent forced into is very costly for outlaw because our abilities are worth far far more then damage

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the cdr churn is important

sharp hinge
glass mortar
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just not tuned high enough yet

nimble sage
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sort of a late answer but opener consists of "follow the normal rotation" but that's a lie because there's no way we're opening from stealth with vanish

sudden fulcrum
sharp hinge
glass mortar
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you dont ever vanish during the normal rotation if subterfuge is up

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why would u do it in the opener

nimble sage
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im illiterate, be patient

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what's the name of the website that show top parsers openers from logs? in like a nice timeline

sudden fulcrum
nimble sage
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thanks

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oh that just show the cds, is there a way to see every single button they pressed in a timeline? is it just normal logs then?

keen belfry
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imagine breaking stealth with vanish

sudden fulcrum
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yeah WCL shows what they did

hardy thicket
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I have no idea where this is going

glass mortar
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go into individual logs

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this person is trying to learn the proper opener

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what they are going to discover is opener is almost completely irrelevant for outlaw, especially in raid

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just following the barebones basic bitch rotation rules in ur "opener" is probably within 0.3% of whatever "optimal opener" the guides have

sharp hinge
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Daily Reminder:

nimble sage
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I just hate playing and having the feeling of "idk what to press next"

keen belfry
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yes blame we dont have a "traditonal" opener cuh

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sometimes u press BTE BTE BTE BTE

glass mortar
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i mean its just follow ur prio list

keen belfry
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sometimes U PRESS BTE SS SS SS BTE

glass mortar
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basically

nimble sage
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sure i get that but im not sure when i should prioritize vanishing over ks at some points

elfin mural
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hi guys

keen belfry
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your opener is "press the most optimal button based on procs and targets and cps and resets and buffs mhm"

elfin mural
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fuck KS

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for real

glass mortar
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never

nimble sage
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new ks looks fun

glass mortar
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u never prio vanishing over ks

nimble sage
keen belfry
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๐Ÿ˜„

nimble sage
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but we never ks in subterfuge, right?

glass mortar
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it should almost never be on 2/2 stacks outside ur literal opener and in that opener it doesnt mater u dont break the rules

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yes so u subterfuge > kspree > coup (if u can) > use first vanish

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so, the basic bitch priority

keen belfry
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if u ask for advice, get it, then say no ur wrong u will get no help my friend

elfin mural
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still at mugzee mythic holding ks otherwise i got killed by mine / front

nimble sage
cold jewel
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sitting on 2/2 vanish is wasting cdr

glass mortar
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that is kinda true but also irrelevant to trickster because u should never run into a point where kspree, 2 charges of vanish and coup are clashing outside the opener

cold jewel
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think about it

glass mortar
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and in the opener, you dont care

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u sit on 2 vanish charges until uve gotten thru kspree and coup (if u have enough blades to proc it)

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that is the opener

keen belfry
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dont say no say why

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giga life advice

elfin mural
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ks is just a free wipe

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im doing a burnout for real

cold jewel
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you pay per wipe?

elfin mural
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holding ks cuz mechs is so shit

sharp hinge
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i always press ks at the worst times to see if i live

nimble sage
sharp hinge
keen belfry
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your goal with trickster is to basically press KS as often as possible cuz morew unseen blades cuz more coups cuz more cdr cuz good

nimble sage
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also if i get the guide correctly, while in subterfuge we overcap on opportunity charges because ambush has priority over pistol shot ?

keen belfry
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while not losing AR

keen belfry
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HO build i think u only press PS instealth if 1 cp + bs right + opp proc right?

sharp hinge
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yes

keen belfry
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but i bet u could just press ambush in subterfuge windows and bing chillin

glass mortar
nimble sage
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mixed messages here, a day or two ago i asked if rtb rolls change anything rotation-wise and i was told "no"

I wanna die now pepeclown

glass mortar
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But otherwise u just overcap

cold jewel
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yea its probably a small loss

cold jewel
glass mortar
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Broadside is the only one that does for trickster and its pretty minor

timid portal
keen belfry
sharp hinge
haughty moat
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what do we think about that?

cold jewel
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go stand at dummies and try to do the prio correctly

nimble sage
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Alright and speaking of the new KS, did anyone try it out yet and what's the verdict? Can you move in it?

sharp hinge
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you can move

nimble sage
#

magic

sharp hinge
#

mixed emotions since 3min cd

nimble sage
#

what's the realistic cd though?

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40sec?

keen belfry
glass mortar
#

Little faster then ar

#

So like 35 to 40s ye

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It varies a ton tho

nimble sage
#

animation makes up for every other loss

keen belfry
#

ye and no

#

biggest dub is it doesnt kill u

old meteor
#

can i use the same gear when swapping between HO and KIR? (19.3% haste)?

craggy barn
#

yes

cold jewel
sharp hinge
#

KIR requires more haste but over 17% should be fine to play it

cold jewel
#

makes no sense to me tbh

craggy barn
#

!haste

ornate heathBOT
#

A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because adr Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The kir_charger KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after talents_alacrity Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The ho_charger HO build gets takem Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use raidbots Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

craggy barn
#

if u run ghostly strike as ho, u pretty much want kir levels of haste

sharp hinge
glass mortar
keen belfry
#

same

#

i dont mind KS as a button

#

i mind how slow it is

nimble sage
#

I am just so happy we dont use blade rush anymore

cold jewel
keen belfry
#

and how gross it feels to press

glass mortar
#

Why not

#

Give feedback

#

It would be abetter option ๐Ÿ˜ 

cold jewel
#

because the channel is the same length regardless no?

gaunt phoenix
cold jewel
#

id rather press it less frequently if they are stuck on it being this long of a cast

keen belfry
#

yeah but what if it interacts with your hero tree

glass mortar
#

Yes which is why in my idea it's half the cast

sharp hinge
#

personally i think most people dont want the cast

glass mortar
#

Or less

cold jewel
glass mortar
#

Sure my highest pref would be its a 2 gcd animation cast that u can spell queue out of

cold jewel
#

if the cast is shorter then fine

glass mortar
#

Not a channel

cold jewel
#

otherwise it just interrupts the flow imo

glass mortar
#

But the new kspree is legit very cool

#

Making it longer cd is sad

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Make it faster and old cd

keen belfry
#

trickster likes press ks

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id like to press it more

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and not die to it

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and not sit in channel for 4-5s

sharp hinge
#

just make us immune while channeling. ez

hardy thicket
#

Btw weran

glass mortar
#

Of for sure

#

I mean I woulda prefer no channel obviously

nimble sage
#

what's the best weapon enchant for m+ยด?

glass mortar
#

I figured it would be one

hardy thicket
#

They literally stole KS from that convo

#

Kek

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New KS*

sharp hinge
#

how you know they saw that convo

hardy thicket
#

Obviously lurked here wdym

#

Kept notes

#

Then they were like wait this sounds cool

glass mortar
#

I mean tbf

#

It was an obvious direction for me

#

More gunplay and unload fast at targets

#

We needed more gun spells

craggy barn
#

we throw a lot of ideas out there that anyone can just yoink

glass mortar
#

Now we just need a giga gun capstone

#

Instead of gsw crap

craggy barn
#

like AHEM
CHANGING OUR MASTERY SO THAT EACH % MAKES US INTO A BOAT

random stirrup
mighty pivot
#

it doesn't look like they've moved mobs around in the priory courtyard. Footmen at least appear to be where they used to be

sharp hinge
#

maybe even MoP

hardy thicket
#

It was pre patch BFA I think

#

Cuz I started in BFA and it was late summer 2018

bright crane
#

Damn bro

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Uhdk got hit with a target cap

#

Feel the pain, uhdk

sharp hinge
#

pre patch bfa might still be legion, i dont remember. i also dont remember if bfa lasted 2 years or 1 year. i think it was a long one though

hardy thicket
#

It was long AF

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel outlaw is op in PTR atm

sharp hinge
#

bait?

proven ocean
#

no

bright crane
#

Thought you said it sucked

#

And solo said it was under tuned

proven ocean
#

no skyfury no warrior no druid buff

proven ocean
#

with all of that i beat arcane mage

bright crane
#

On god?

#

No cap?

haughty wigeon
#

kira playing brew

#

the winds

#

are changing

sharp hinge
#

any bets arcane gets nerfed soon

proven ocean
vivid vessel
#

idk why you keep saying this

nimble sage
#

in aoe, does having Blade flurry up matter for KS?

proven ocean
#

skill issue

#

zac

vivid vessel
#

ye prolly

proven ocean
#

with full raid buffs i beat arcane

vivid vessel
#

ye ok

#

its just 5 more %

sharp hinge
#

does brew give phys damage?

#

or only ww?

proven ocean
vivid vessel
#

brew

craggy barn
#

monk in general

proven ocean
#

druid 3%, warr 5%, skyfury alot of %

#

Dentge 5% more

vivid vessel
#

skyfury is 3

mighty pivot
#

other classes get damage from those buffs too

proven ocean
#

yes all of that is how much

#

?

#

all of it

#

is how much

#

zac

#

is it 5?

#

x

#

D

#

?

vivid vessel
#

but mage get buf from druid and sham tho lol

proven ocean
#

?

grave rose
proven ocean
#

idk what ur argument is rn

#

cuz

#

they never play with shaman

vivid vessel
#

you need 20%

proven ocean
#

idk what ur talking about

#

ur just trolling rn

vivid vessel
#

thats gonna be hard

proven ocean
#

cuz u said 5% already

#

i give up ngl

sharp hinge
#

i say we stream zeross and zac running a key of their choice each, and we settle it best out of 5

vivid vessel
#

you are 20% behind

proven ocean
#

whatever u say bro

vivid vessel
#

you arent getting 20%

#

?

#

its just

#

math

#

wdym

proven ocean
#

missing 3 major raid buffs and he says 5%

random stirrup
#

Zeross too noob and washed from sin

vivid vessel
#

how are you mad about that

proven ocean
keen belfry
#

zeross getting 20% gapped by rando mage player

proven ocean
#

because everytime i post something

#

u post random bullshit

#

trying to be either annoying

#

or trolling

vivid vessel
#

bro

#

you said

proven ocean
#

x

#

d

vivid vessel
#

with full buffs you beat mage

#

you are 20% behind

#

you are getting 6/7% from shaman + war

keen belfry
#

washed

sharp hinge
#

this new rogue discord lore is entertaining at least

prisma vessel
#

i think what zac is trying to say is math is hard?

proven ocean
keen belfry
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

dude...

mighty pivot
proven ocean
vivid vessel
#

I mean

keen belfry
#

wait zeross lost to arcane mage when he had monk buff and arcane mage had no vdh buff?

#

gg

vivid vessel
#

i didnt say anything tho

prisma vessel
ripe ibex
vivid vessel
#

you are 20% behind

keen belfry
#

get em jason!

vivid vessel
#

war and sham doesnt change that

#

idk why you go off on me

#

for doing basic math

proven ocean
#

missing 3 buffs and ur saying 5%

#

is really annoying

#

ngl

vivid vessel
#

its 2, the mage is also getting the buffs

#

druid buff

proven ocean
#

whatever dude

vivid vessel
#

!fuu

ornate heathBOT
mighty pivot
#

he is trolling aint no way

proven ocean
#

cba with this

#

cuz ur perma typing the same things

#

all the time everytime i post meters

keen belfry
#

nah but like he cba no ?

glass mortar
#

Ur missing 3 buffs but 2 of those buffs woulda also buff the mage up higher

#

Is what zac was saying

vivid vessel
#

you are getting 4.5 + 2.5

glass mortar
#

Only Warr buff is a buff that wouldn't move mage as much as u

vivid vessel
#
  • skyfury also benefit mage since its mastery
glass mortar
#

Out of the ones u named

mighty pivot
#

not if you force the mages to right click the buffs off

abstract frost
#

Is this r2?

glass mortar
#

True!

mighty pivot
#

outlaw op

abstract frost
glass mortar
#

If Ross had 3 more raid buffs and the mage clicked off druid and shaman buff

mighty pivot
#

blackmail your group to remove their buffs

vivid vessel
#

idk how you get mad

#

from that

glass mortar
#

He would beat it

vivid vessel
#

its crazy

glass mortar
#

Yea idk

ripe ibex
#

@keen belfry hey man whatโ€™s going on

proven ocean
proven ocean
#

u realize u cant compare dmg liek that

prisma vessel
proven ocean
#

u compare mage with his own grp

#

and rogue with his own grp

sharp hinge
#

what made this even start between Zac and Zeross, whats the lore

fierce mulch
#

!wa

proven ocean
#

mage only gets 5% more from a real grp

#

not more

#

i gain alot more than that

keen belfry
#

so ur raid buff merchant? same.

glass mortar
#

U get more then 5% u don't get 20% tho

#

And mage is still getting some %

proven ocean
#

we'll see what happens on retail

#

because you guys dont know how to compare dps

cold jewel
#

RIP Bubbles

#

o7

keen belfry
#

they need to make m+ raid buffs either deleted or make everyone get them in every key

haughty wigeon
proven ocean
#

your like "ye let them dps race in the same grp"

haughty wigeon
#

theyre learning how to actually play brew

glass mortar
#

Some random memed about that

proven ocean
#

u compare with full raid buffs vs that class in a different log

glass mortar
#

Why r u using it as an argument

#

Against me and zac

#

Who is u guys

haughty wigeon
#

and now brews power will be more visable in the community

#

brew does so much fucking damage in ptr

glass mortar
#

U think me or zac think dps racing with custom comps would be a good way to see how the specs compare?

haughty wigeon
#

i would be actually shocked if its not the best tank next season

#

cause of some dumbsthit like

proven ocean
haughty wigeon
#

"vdh has chains"

proven ocean
#

u compare mage dps in a mage comp

#

and outlaw dps in a outlaw comp

#

2 different logs

#

if u can't understand that thats on you

keen belfry
#

@ripe ibex i dont even get to run keys anymore.

abstract frost
glass mortar
#

I guess true

haughty wigeon
#

i will put my 2 cents on this too

#

ret is trash rn

ripe ibex
#

oh no is he

haughty wigeon
#

like it is at the start of every season

proven ocean
#

and zac out here pretending i only gain 5%

#

from 3 raid buffs

glass mortar
#

Zac was def comparing his dps to the mage in ur group and not the two dps in his group

vivid vessel
#

stcu

ripe ibex
#

its okay i will be replacing economics

vivid vessel
#

you absolute

#

fuckujng

#

donkey

glass mortar
#

Not pointing out he got gapped by both the buffers in his outlaw group

vivid vessel
#

you are so stupid

keen belfry
vivid vessel
#

its crazy

glass mortar
#

Despite giving them no buffs

proven ocean
#

chill out

vivid vessel
#

whyu do you act

#

like a dumbass

#

everytime

keen belfry
proven ocean
#

?

vivid vessel
#

dont act like you dont understand

abstract frost
vivid vessel
#

basic words

glass mortar
#

Just making stuff up now

vivid vessel
#

you stupid ass bro

mighty pivot
glass mortar
#

Or misunderstanding idk

haughty wigeon
#

ill redirect zacs rage at me

proven ocean
sharp hinge
#

the way Zac talks shit is making me laugh out loud at work right now. top tier shit talking imo

haughty wigeon
#

so he can stop yelling at zeross

#

ehem

#

i think

proven ocean
#

i said u cant compare outlaw and mage in the same grp

haughty wigeon
#

crackshot should be removed

proven ocean
#

has to be a different grp

haughty wigeon
#

from the spec

lime lake
craggy barn
keen belfry
#

zeross gotta be top 5 gaslighting rage baiter of all time

#

like no cap

proven ocean
#

my guy threw every word out there

haughty wigeon
#

its the reason why outlaw is so noob unfriendly

#

and why it has such a inflation of uptime

ripe ibex
haughty wigeon
#

on all its buffs

proven ocean
#

cant have a real argument without getting pissed off

craggy barn
#

imo nothing wrong with having a high skill floor

haughty wigeon
#

aces should also be rermoved

#

and replaced

#

with a flat damage increase to bte

proven ocean
haughty wigeon
#

keeps its chance to proc btw

ripe ibex
proven ocean
#

u never understand anything awang no wonder u think everything is a ragebait

haughty wigeon
#

that it has to be fun

ripe ibex
#

r u a drone

haughty wigeon
#

i think

#

crackshto and gsw should swap places

abstract frost
#

My guy said "r u a drone"

keen belfry
abstract frost
#

actually wild HOLY

ripe ibex
#

go play boomkin lil bro

abstract frost
#

im using that from now on

haughty wigeon
#

it should also

#

increase fth from 2 points to 3

#

cause its to strong

keen belfry
#

do you guys think im always lost be honest?

haughty wigeon
#

way to strong for 2 points

craggy barn
#

yes awang

#

ur a mage

haughty wigeon
#

thus

craggy barn
#

but ur in here

glass mortar
#

It's so funny how all zac does is show Ross his math about raid buffs is totally wrong and now he's yapping about how zac always gets mad and awang is lost

craggy barn
#

are u lost

haughty wigeon
#

outlaw can hace the niche of being the first spec with 3 point talents

#

since beta

glass mortar
#

We just move past the fact that zac already gave him the exact value the raid buffs he mentioned would give

#

And they aren't even half of 20%

haughty wigeon
#

and i think it would be cool

lone spear
#

u guys see swampface smashing bubbles? love that

wary bridge
haughty wigeon
#

rtb should be replaced with

#

slice and dicve

#

for that old combat feel

ripe ibex
#

okay ur just trolling

craggy barn
haughty wigeon
vivid vessel
#

fucking shitter

glass mortar
#

Yea but only cause u haven't shown up at my place yet babe

vivid vessel
#

ass

haughty wigeon
vivid vessel
#

donkey

craggy barn
#

holy

glass mortar
#

๐Ÿฅฐ

mighty pivot
haughty wigeon
#

blade rush

#

is gone

wary bridge
#

bring back the aerial nuke from legion lol

ripe ibex
haughty wigeon
#

changes to old killing spree

abstract frost
#

LuckyLee Here.

craggy barn
#

nuke? canon ball barrage? which wasnt much of a nuke

proven ocean
#

๐Ÿ‘ถ donkey๐Ÿ‘ถthats all i say๐Ÿ‘ถ

keen belfry
#

๐Ÿ‘ถ

glass mortar
#

๐Ÿ‘ถ

haughty wigeon
#

lets be friends guys

#

lets not fight

craggy barn
#

thems fighting words

proven ocean
sharp hinge
#

zac and zeross at the end of the day

proven ocean
#

i mean its just zac being super pissed off and cant control himself

#

its funny

haughty wigeon
abstract frost
#

Luckylee here. Playing rogue next season (played dk this season but ppl knew me as havoc demon hunter). See you guys do lots of damage, i don't really like playing with discord so probably the spec for me. Watching this stream to get better for next season.

haughty wigeon
#

Have a pic of my dog

proven ocean
#

Luckylee here. Playing rogue next season (played dk this season but ppl knew me as havoc demon hunter). See you guys do lots of damage, i don't really like playing with discord so probably the spec for me. Watching this stream to get better for next season.

keen belfry
#

we need a reroll outlaw season

#

i would love to see it

vivid vessel
#

because you act

#

like a child

#

taht cant read

#

and gaslight everyone

#

just to be an asshole

proven ocean
#

missing 3 buffs and u say missing 5% only

haughty wigeon
#

i mean

proven ocean
#

maybe try reading that one more time

wary bridge
#

people say outlaw is hard to play but when i tried assassination, it felt like chinese to me

haughty wigeon
#

atleast yall are having discussions

keen belfry
#

watching tomelvis stream and seeing him stop moving mid ptr key to type at zeross

glass mortar
#

He was like 2% off

haughty wigeon
nimble sage
#

we never press Blade flurry if the buff is already active, correct? (unless refreshing ofc)

haughty wigeon
#

this is whats happening to ret

#

due to lack of changes

proven ocean
frail veldt
#

I just got here

#

what are yall dummies arguing about

glass mortar
#

Holy zeross acting like that was a w for him

#

He's 20% behind

sharp hinge
glass mortar
haughty wigeon
#

kk

keen belfry
#

mom and dad are fighting again @frail veldt

frail veldt
abstract frost
#

Whos the mom

glass mortar
#

I'm to lazy to explain on mobile mewo

proven ocean
abstract frost
#

and whos the dad

proven ocean
#

ur stupid af if u dont understand how raid buffs affect ur dps in m+

keen belfry
#

zeross for sure gets blasted by zac

haughty wigeon
proven ocean
keen belfry
glass mortar
#

Ross said outlaw is op because he'd beat an arcade mage 20% ahead of him if he had outlaw comp

#

Zac pointed out that wasnt rlthe case

#

This all followed

proven ocean
#

u think i wont do 7m overall

#

in dawnbreaker