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man all you do is ego
thoughts?
Someone tell the demon hunter discord to unban me
you too
yes but what i said is true too
you are not prepared
so not ego
also if you're so toxic you got banned from the DH discord you have no hope
fairies
its even framed
When is the discord profile pic being turned into an American flag?
lol sit zac
bro if these swords were sword shape tho
only if its on your dick
wtf
people get banned from the DH discord for talking shit about momentum
ur supposed to say the opposite zac

LOW ENERGY
imagine getting slapped by a guy with 2 popsicles KEKW
i did have the whole dh discord thinking i was jediths brother for awhile
_>
wait did a new season start or u guys r just playing standard
standard
ah ok
dude
what season are u waiting for ur liteerally lvl 70
bet my guy is still afk in the wizard tower from splash training
u didnt even play half the game
?
runescape has seasons?
ur lvl 70 bro
i go back to osrs for nostalgia and seasons
dragonwilds
im just confused
isnt it just better
i beat actual oldschool runescape
with real sword shape
like 2008 oldschool runescape
it has some seasonal events, where you get faster exp and loot on separate worlds
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why are we getting squared shape swords everytime
and now that character is oldmaxed on rs3
just use some ugly ass mace mog at that point tho
is it cause sword shape is too dangerous
i mean, i did too but mine was f2p kind of beating
not member
while squared shape cant hurt you
the seasons r bangers tho
what are seasons bro
yea i was a member and i was maxed, i didnt ever finish all the quests tho which is why i dabble in osrs
@vivid vessel i wanna show u something bro
Leagues, DMM
dont
when people start talking about squares i think of this
they do seasonal content on runescape where u have characters starting from level 1 with massive XP bonuses and bonus powers/objectives and shit
u can make like diablo esque builds in osrs
its sick
its like speedrunning sections of old school for cosmetics n stuff
yea what trickz said
i prefer the permanent progression on the standard game
yea i get that, i still play rs3 on the side tho so that largely gives me my runescape fix
@vivid vessel cool or?
you don't keep anything from the Leagues
i get them soon kinda
almost remaxed in it ๐
just cosmetic rewards that anyone else can buy
Leagues is neat, I prefer just watching the content tho may actually play it one year xd
idk i just like black keyboard
im a simple guy
yea i mean i consume osrs content for sure it goes hard af
jimmys playthrough of hardcore classic has been a banger too
osrs content creatures r on another level ngl
get the keyless
reminds me of the good old machinima wow days
All u need
Work!
going to hell
Idm my apple keyboard for work
mine is the same but fully modified
mac layout is goated for coding
I think my 1 button rotation is bugged
tape mod, alluminum case, fully hand lubed by me keyswitches custom keycaps, dampening foam on all the screws and the keyboard itself
and hand lubed all the stabalizers

My 1 button has no extra gcd just has regular gcf
Or you got the footmen lube?
its different ?
isnt just a normal qwerty keyboard
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lul
not sure what u mean
which button
you have options key and some stuff like @ and ~ are different locations
heard he has a slip in slide party this weekend
Like there's no gcd penalty no delay
command key, but yes - still goated
how long is ur gcd
cmnd key is where alt is and options replaces the useless windows key on windows keyboard or am i mixing it up?
dont wanna get up and walk into the other room to check 
options key on the mac is just the "alt" key, comand i think is the one youre thinking about
Like its using regular gcd
well what is ur regular gcd
u realize outlaws gcd is 0.8s during adr right
which should be up 90% of the time
not 1s
so it should be 1s with the 1 button
Really
yes
They just tryna seem busy at wowhead istg
assuming u have the right amount of haste anyway
Next thing they gonna tell us, iswe can raise some noodle dragons or something
Wowhead slop is awesome
MoP classic though
i kinda wish they removed dragon riding
ye they should also make a post about if u get xp u get to level up
proves the same purpose
both useless to mention
can you skip 2nd set of prisons on Mugzee?
or will you always get 4 prisons in final phase
I tried swapping wepons inside M+ but it doesn't work, only outside. is fixed or smth?
u have gallywix weapon on probably
You cant swap gally's weapon
so I need other offhand, not gally
r u sure cause according to zeross we had some kinda minmax for it
yea idr tbh
could be, i thought that tier was a nothingburger
like people were trying to find minmaxes for it in TC but they were all margin of error nonsense that would never make it into the apl
Yes we did
We did fth > ambush without tier set, and with tier we would fth finish early then ambush
Or smth
I don't remember exactly
But it was something like that
that was like
0.2% type shit
OH
ok
?
huge
nah but
we should be able to tweak the one button rotation to do what we want
such as CDs and what not
We should do a raid with only 1 button andies
if you could just input the perfect rotation in it
90% of playuers woyuld get out dpsed by this shit
they already do
skill issue
Outlaw meta now????
maybe they should use the one button then
imagine the QOL it could provide in pugs
dawg
how is that qol
to remove half the game
or feel pressured to have to press the one button
i dont see a t29 condition in the old DF apl, maybe it was removed by the end of the xpac
cause you get destroyed by it
it was definitly there at some point solo
you dont rmemebr ?
i dont
either learn the game, or use the one button. same how it is now. nothing would change
ranged gets shafted by the one button anyway
sick rogue notes eh?
idgaf anymore tbh, im just playing the game cause its cozy
do m+ untill it gets boring, like 1-2months ago. still do like 4 dungs
huge rogue buff
its seasonal
its just the people who cant play other games keep playing
I play cause I enjoy it,farm shit
i did the rogue class hall campagn i got so bored
other games and things to do exist, not everyone plays wow all the time esp when mid end of a season
outside season release whatever the fuck they do
yo RIP unholy lmfao
i feel like a lot of wow players solely play wow
kinda like people who play Rust
lol they reverted breath pretty much
DKs were crying
its so funny bc the reason to revert is similar to why some folks hate the channeling of new ks
and u look at our notes

ROGUE
The Single-Button Assistant and Assisted Highlight now recommend more appropriate weapon poisons based on your talents and adjust their recommendations towards Wound Poison in PvP content.

nice changes we got
man
so good
rogue is saved
who was it
ROGUE
The Single-Button Assistant and Assisted Highlight now recommend more appropriate weapon poisons based on your talents and adjust their recommendations towards Wound Poison in PvP content.
WTF
You cannot make it up
Just booked my Xalatoes tattoo im ready for her to be inside me
where the fuck are u putting that tatt
.guys what is the easiest spec for mage tower ?
name checks out
outlaw pretty easy in the mage tower
subs is probably the hardest tbh
none of them are hard tho
if u wanna put a minor amount of effort in theres guides to find a bunch of gear with sockets u can cheaply socket and since ilvl scales u will be substantially stronger then u are intended to be
Shit, things are moving fast on the PTR for us huh?
I wont blame him on making the worst changes possible
Sounds fun
Apparently the 2piece for sub trickster got changed?
did they just
so might be the same for outlaw, no clue.
Are we back to only having undocumented changes?
hmmmmmmmmg
rogue dev is likely chilling at a beach in ibiza or something
yea
ive heard its bonkers on ptr
and they buffed it like they are compensating for nerfing its live tier set
dudes already reworked KS, thats too much effort put into rogue for this xpac
buddy their ptr tier set is 25%
wait till midnight now
?
Rogue dev got layed off lol
rogue prolly doesnt have a dev and is being worked on in someones spare time
interesting
thats
marginally better design wise i guess
why do blades always all need to be rng tho blizz
zzzz
it strikes twice and applies 2 stacks of UB
now whenever ur set procs as u earn a coup u just wasted the proc basically
it did damage but didnt help u towards another coup
so roughly 25% of the set procs dont help generate coups
4p the same still?

buhh
and the buff blocking stacks still exists for 5 sec
max EB stacks still 4, still cannot gain any while 4p is active
Does this mean we need to pick up the balls on first boss of dawnbreaker when flying off the ship?
the needing to press another spender
yer
I always wondered what those balls were for and it felt like they forgot a mechanic
Imagine if you hit coup stacks and it auto casted off gcd 
if u spend too long flying during the fights ur supposed to just die
like on the chase in the last fight
but the thing is people figured out it doesnt matter at all (on first) and u can fly straight to boss platform and afk on last
i mean the whole way skyriding is implemented in the boss fights of that key is a joke
Yeah but that is the first boss specifically
dont they refill ur vigor too
maybe if u somehow managed to fuckup so bad
u couldnt get to the ship
idk ๐
I read it as you gotta pick up the balls when flying off or this thing kills you?
well now it looks like that yea
mf is aura farming that boss
you're doing it wrong
you know hes terrified of bubbles
anyone can show a gif how swampface kill bubble
Help me, I'm stuck in the mud step-swamp, w-what are you doing?!?
what is ur point exactly
this trinket is also giving barely more secondaries then priory
that thing is mega underbudgeted for 723 ilvl
bubbles jr
i can't believe they made me feel bad about bubbles
this can't be real
look how they massacred my boy
apparently Swampface now kills Bubbles as part of the spawn RP lmao https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/611326455019733014/1390411902781231114/image.png?ex=6868297e&is=6866d7fe&hm=83f5165782bf7b889441d55671ec4831268ba16dd6c0f56c718d893b2c4cf3f8&
from zorthas' stream
Well that's better than leaving that cursed mob in the dungeon
literal public execution
holy
anyone have an mplus fatebound build for testing? the wowhead import wasn't working 
murdered him and left his child to slowly die alone

a little bit fucked up
freedom 
at least they didn't make bubbles jr watch
he was probably following behind bubbles and ran away when he saw what happened
poor lil guy
3 nights
imagine not doing that back when you'd get +25% rep if you opened the token in sidestreet sluice 
@vivid vessel new 2p thoughts?
i love motherlode ks puddle crash
Trickster / 2p Feedback Hello, Itโs me again, after playing more with outlaw on ptr I would like to provide some feedback, this time focused on trickster and the new 2 piece/4 piece. (Killing spree cooldown nerf did not really fix any of the issues I had with the spell mentionned in my previous post here, rather it created more issues that we...
its better then the first iteration
and somehow still just bad
crazy how they just ignore pain points
He already got the forum post?
My god
This is about the one we got 20 minutes ago?
what
did they change something
yes
ye
he doesnt know
i mean
why
cause of 4 stacks max
it doesnt build any
I'm an outlaw rogue. Of course I like chipotle
another thing
but this part is fixed right
so thats good for me
it was a half fix
def improved over old
i just dont know why
all the feedback that was like "its cringe we need to press a builder to spend and it can easily be wasted"
and they just keep ignoring the waste
idk
they want us to waste
players dont like wasting
its not fun friction
u need to be very specific with it if u dont want it to feel bad
at this pace they might have just enough weeks to fix the remaining issues
the rogue changes this ptr build are insane 
(with OBR of course, the main priority)
i feel like they will fix it
that part
i just didnt expect it to be done so soon so
its fine i think
ye i mean its a positive change to be clear
my question is do we actually need the combo point generation part though
its just funny it ends up still kinda shitty
but baby steps
!!
more kspree baby steps please
there is no cp gen
do you not get combo points while channeling?
ah that
we dont need it
but
i think its neccesseray
for feedback
cause otherwise you do nothing for the duration of the channel
i htink the cp gen alievate that feeling of being afk a bit
what's wrong with combo points?
it's supposed to make up for the loss of CDR too
(it doesnt) but its supposed to
spending time in ability animations that u arent forced into is very costly for outlaw because our abilities are worth far far more then damage
the cdr churn is important
i think he meant another kind of cp
just not tuned high enough yet
sort of a late answer but opener consists of "follow the normal rotation" but that's a lie because there's no way we're opening from stealth with vanish
bro is trying to join that other guy with his 30 day suspension
thats what im sayin
wdym
you dont ever vanish during the normal rotation if subterfuge is up
why would u do it in the opener
im illiterate, be patient
what's the name of the website that show top parsers openers from logs? in like a nice timeline
thanks
oh that just show the cds, is there a way to see every single button they pressed in a timeline? is it just normal logs then?
imagine breaking stealth with vanish
yeah WCL shows what they did
casts - timeline
I have no idea where this is going
go into individual logs
this person is trying to learn the proper opener
what they are going to discover is opener is almost completely irrelevant for outlaw, especially in raid
just following the barebones basic bitch rotation rules in ur "opener" is probably within 0.3% of whatever "optimal opener" the guides have
Daily Reminder:
I just hate playing and having the feeling of "idk what to press next"
i mean its just follow ur prio list
sometimes U PRESS BTE SS SS SS BTE
basically
sure i get that but im not sure when i should prioritize vanishing over ks at some points
hi guys
your opener is "press the most optimal button based on procs and targets and cps and resets and buffs mhm"
never
new ks looks fun
when AR gonna fall off
use the one button
u never prio vanishing over ks
no? we use vanish because it's 2/2 stacks?
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but we never ks in subterfuge, right?
it should almost never be on 2/2 stacks outside ur literal opener and in that opener it doesnt mater u dont break the rules
yes so u subterfuge > kspree > coup (if u can) > use first vanish
so, the basic bitch priority
if u ask for advice, get it, then say no ur wrong u will get no help my friend
still at mugzee mythic holding ks otherwise i got killed by mine / front
happens often
im saying that because the few parts that i do get from the guide is that we never sit on 2/2 vanish charges, or did i misunderstand it? 
sitting on 2/2 vanish is wasting cdr
that is kinda true but also irrelevant to trickster because u should never run into a point where kspree, 2 charges of vanish and coup are clashing outside the opener
think about it
and in the opener, you dont care
u sit on 2 vanish charges until uve gotten thru kspree and coup (if u have enough blades to proc it)
that is the opener
u press KS before u press vanish, unless AR will fall off before u can ks then vanish
dont say no say why
giga life advice
you pay per wipe?
holding ks cuz mechs is so shit
i always press ks at the worst times to see if i live
I will follow this advice to the death - IF it's the most optimal route
if youre trying to learn current rotation, you should prolly just play ptr
your goal with trickster is to basically press KS as often as possible cuz morew unseen blades cuz more coups cuz more cdr cuz good
also if i get the guide correctly, while in subterfuge we overcap on opportunity charges because ambush has priority over pistol shot ?
while not losing AR
depends on your rtb rolls
HO build i think u only press PS instealth if 1 cp + bs right + opp proc right?
yes
but i bet u could just press ambush in subterfuge windows and bing chillin
Ye there's 1 rule for ho to consume them involving broadside
mixed messages here, a day or two ago i asked if rtb rolls change anything rotation-wise and i was told "no"
I wanna die now 
But otherwise u just overcap
yea its probably a small loss
literally just look at the rotation prio
Broadside is the only one that does for trickster and its pretty minor
untill u know outlaw very well i wouldnt worry about builder rules related to rtb buffs
the new KS will change the rotation a bit
what do we think about that?
go stand at dummies and try to do the prio correctly
Alright and speaking of the new KS, did anyone try it out yet and what's the verdict? Can you move in it?
you can move
magic
mixed emotions since 3min cd
it feels worse to press in every way other than it doesnt kill you (huge dub) and animation is cool
animation makes up for every other loss
can i use the same gear when swapping between HO and KIR? (19.3% haste)?
yes
you would rather be doing a ~4s channel every 10-15s while playing outlaw?
KIR requires more haste but over 17% should be fine to play it
makes no sense to me tbh
!haste
A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.
*But Haste has a **requirement ** because
Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.
The
KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after
Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.
The
HO build gets
Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.
You need to use
Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.
if u run ghostly strike as ho, u pretty much want kir levels of haste
for me, no - im saying in general its been mixed emotions for it here
thx, appreciate it
No I'd rather be doing a short cool shooty spree every 15s then a 5s spree every 40
I am just so happy we dont use blade rush anymore
ok but one of those isn't an option
and how gross it feels to press
because the channel is the same length regardless no?

id rather press it less frequently if they are stuck on it being this long of a cast
yeah but what if it interacts with your hero tree
Yes which is why in my idea it's half the cast
personally i think most people dont want the cast
Or less
oh i didnt read it that way
Sure my highest pref would be its a 2 gcd animation cast that u can spell queue out of
if the cast is shorter then fine
Not a channel
otherwise it just interrupts the flow imo
But the new kspree is legit very cool
Making it longer cd is sad
Make it faster and old cd
trickster likes press ks
id like to press it more
and not die to it
and not sit in channel for 4-5s
just make us immune while channeling. ez
what's the best weapon enchant for m+ยด?
I figured it would be one
I mean tbf
It was an obvious direction for me
More gunplay and unload fast at targets
We needed more gun spells
we throw a lot of ideas out there that anyone can just yoink
like AHEM
CHANGING OUR MASTERY SO THAT EACH % MAKES US INTO A BOAT
hail to the real prophet
2018 this man is insane
it doesn't look like they've moved mobs around in the priory courtyard. Footmen at least appear to be where they used to be
pre patch bfa might still be legion, i dont remember. i also dont remember if bfa lasted 2 years or 1 year. i think it was a long one though
It was long AF
@vivid vessel outlaw is op in PTR atm
bait?
no
no skyfury no warrior no druid buff
with all of that i beat arcane mage
any bets arcane gets nerfed soon
hes testing
?
idk why you keep saying this
in aoe, does having Blade flurry up matter for KS?
ye prolly
?
brew
monk in general
skyfury is 3
other classes get damage from those buffs too
yes all of that is how much
?
all of it
is how much
zac
is it 5?
x
D
?
but mage get buf from druid and sham tho lol
?
Honestly, after the comment Ion made about Outlaw. Probably winding up a pretty major rework for Midnight
you need 20%
thats gonna be hard
i say we stream zeross and zac running a key of their choice each, and we settle it best out of 5
you are 20% behind
whatever u say bro
missing 3 major raid buffs and he says 5%
Zeross too noob and washed from sin
this
zeross getting 20% gapped by rando mage player
because everytime i post something
u post random bullshit
trying to be either annoying
or trolling
except druid gets the same amount for you or mage
bro
you said
with full buffs you beat mage
you are 20% behind
you are getting 6/7% from shaman + war
washed
this new rogue discord lore is entertaining at least
i think what zac is trying to say is math is hard?
says the worst rogue on NA


I mean
wait zeross lost to arcane mage when he had monk buff and arcane mage had no vdh buff?
gg
i didnt say anything tho

take that back
you are 20% behind
get em jason!
whatever dude
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
he is trolling aint no way
cba with this
cuz ur perma typing the same things
all the time everytime i post meters
nah but like he cba no ?
Ur missing 3 buffs but 2 of those buffs woulda also buff the mage up higher
Is what zac was saying
you are getting 4.5 + 2.5
Only Warr buff is a buff that wouldn't move mage as much as u
- skyfury also benefit mage since its mastery
Out of the ones u named
not if you force the mages to right click the buffs off
Is this r2?
True!
outlaw op

If Ross had 3 more raid buffs and the mage clicked off druid and shaman buff
blackmail your group to remove their buffs
He would beat it
its crazy
Yea idk
@keen belfry hey man whatโs going on
?
sup man
u realize u cant compare dmg liek that

what made this even start between Zac and Zeross, whats the lore
!wa
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
so ur raid buff merchant? same.
they need to make m+ raid buffs either deleted or make everyone get them in every key
yes everyone is testing it
your like "ye let them dps race in the same grp"
theyre learning how to actually play brew
Some random memed about that
u compare with full raid buffs vs that class in a different log
and now brews power will be more visable in the community
brew does so much fucking damage in ptr
U think me or zac think dps racing with custom comps would be a good way to see how the specs compare?
i would be actually shocked if its not the best tank next season
cause of some dumbsthit like

"vdh has chains"
u compare mage dps in a mage comp
and outlaw dps in a outlaw comp
2 different logs
if u can't understand that thats on you
@ripe ibex i dont even get to run keys anymore.
Economics offline
I guess true
oh no is he
like it is at the start of every season
Zac was def comparing his dps to the mage in ur group and not the two dps in his group
stcu
its okay i will be replacing economics
Not pointing out he got gapped by both the buffers in his outlaw group
you are so stupid
econ offline, oktai offline, gg
its crazy
Despite giving them no buffs
chill out
tanks. are gone.
?
dont act like you dont understand
Poah offline
basic words
Just making stuff up now
you stupid ass bro

Or misunderstanding idk
ill redirect zacs rage at me
chill out ur acting like a little bitch rn
the way Zac talks shit is making me laugh out loud at work right now. top tier shit talking imo
i said u cant compare outlaw and mage in the same grp
crackshot should be removed
has to be a different grp
from the spec


my guy threw every word out there
its the reason why outlaw is so noob unfriendly
and why it has such a inflation of uptime
lil bro trying to sneak in the most dog shit opinion
on all its buffs
cant have a real argument without getting pissed off
imo nothing wrong with having a high skill floor
ur always lost ngl
keeps its chance to proc btw
and in what way would that be fun
u never understand anything awang no wonder u think everything is a ragebait
i wasnt informed
that it has to be fun
r u a drone
My guy said "r u a drone"
what if im trying to find myself tho
actually wild 
go play boomkin lil bro
im using that from now on
do you guys think im always lost be honest?
way to strong for 2 points
thus
but ur in here
It's so funny how all zac does is show Ross his math about raid buffs is totally wrong and now he's yapping about how zac always gets mad and awang is lost
are u lost
outlaw can hace the niche of being the first spec with 3 point talents
since beta
We just move past the fact that zac already gave him the exact value the raid buffs he mentioned would give
And they aren't even half of 20%
and i think it would be cool
u guys see swampface smashing bubbles? love that
remove BTE
okay ur just trolling
do you think im lost too?
its a good nod to the community absolutely hating bubbles
NO? you think?
fucking shitter
Yea but only cause u haven't shown up at my place yet babe
ass

donkey
holy
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bring back the aerial nuke from legion lol
w take
changes to old killing spree
LuckyLee Here.
nuke? canon ball barrage? which wasnt much of a nuke
๐ถ donkey๐ถthats all i say๐ถ
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thems fighting words

Luckylee here. Playing rogue next season (played dk this season but ppl knew me as havoc demon hunter). See you guys do lots of damage, i don't really like playing with discord so probably the spec for me. Watching this stream to get better for next season.
Have a pic of my dog
Luckylee here. Playing rogue next season (played dk this season but ppl knew me as havoc demon hunter). See you guys do lots of damage, i don't really like playing with discord so probably the spec for me. Watching this stream to get better for next season.
because you act
like a child
taht cant read
and gaslight everyone
just to be an asshole
missing 3 buffs and u say missing 5% only
i mean
maybe try reading that one more time
people say outlaw is hard to play but when i tried assassination, it felt like chinese to me
atleast yall are having discussions
watching tomelvis stream and seeing him stop moving mid ptr key to type at zeross
He was like 2% off
we never press Blade flurry if the buff is already active, correct? (unless refreshing ofc)
and you'll understand why i reacted to you saying ur wrong
Tell Bolas Drax says hi

kk
mom and dad are fighting again @frail veldt
zeross and zac?
Whos the mom
I'm to lazy to explain on mobile mewo
who cares if im 20% behind
and whos the dad
ur stupid af if u dont understand how raid buffs affect ur dps in m+
zeross for sure gets blasted by zac
somethign something ptr detail numbers somethign something dumbshit cause its only week 3

mhm




