#outlaw

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glass mortar
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ok we cant be too mean to him while hes on his enhance, he has no defensives he might flop

wintry solar
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Notice how he never gets close to the camera

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He so slow

glass mortar
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frfr

wintry solar
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Yall safe

vivid vessel
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No Perma sprint gg

glass mortar
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mans gunna turn into a furry and still be unable to catch me or zac RP walking in stealth

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imagine thinking u could chase down an outlaw rogue

keen belfry
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look at this 4 man. yall jealous?

vivid vessel
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is there even a rogue in this screenshot

glass mortar
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broken naming convention 4/7

vivid vessel
vale warren
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How easy is mythic stix to pug

vivid vessel
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Did you know

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There is a french guy

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Named zac

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And he has all the classes

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Zacmonk

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Zacrogue

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Zacmage

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Zacdh

glass mortar
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yea i know ppl like that

vivid vessel
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Should be me fr

vivid vessel
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But he stole my name

wintry solar
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It annoys me

jolly geyser
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not anymore

wintry solar
vivid vessel
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Bro

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Can

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Ptr

jolly geyser
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no

vivid vessel
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Comne up

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I'm home now

wintry solar
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Reminds me of my nephew when he wants to show me something

vivid vessel
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Still no ptr

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It's almost 24 h late now

novel socket
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they fired the people that work in ptr

vivid vessel
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Probably

leaden folio
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they fired people on warcraft rumble

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im so sad

vivid vessel
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I mean they fired qa people

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Which

novel socket
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what qa

vivid vessel
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Might touch wow aswell

novel socket
glass mortar
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what r u rr to next season awang???

vivid vessel
novel socket
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wow has no qa

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we are the qa

glass mortar
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awangangwangangpaladin?

novel socket
jolly geyser
glass mortar
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idk what even looks good on ptr

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i hear dev is disgusting

novel socket
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again ?

glass mortar
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still*

wintry solar
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Back in 2004 I wanted an orc named poopoo and it wouldn't let me and I cried so hard I threw up

sharp hinge
glass mortar
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i mean no tuning and the spec has some of the best scaling in the video game and they got a 25% set bonus so

novel socket
glass mortar
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no surprise

jolly geyser
glass mortar
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and shadows set bonus was like 40% or something nonsense

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they got quite a bit of tuning ahead of them thats for sure

wintry solar
novel socket
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i want mm to be nuked

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out of the dmg meters

sudden fulcrum
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i have a friend who had a priest with the name "Lipsthatgrip" and some assholes reported it

novel socket
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for s3

sharp hinge
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i really dont understand how hunter gets so much love season after season

novel socket
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popular spec

jolly geyser
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many devs

novel socket
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dedicated devs

jolly geyser
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play it

keen belfry
sharp hinge
dim widget
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and now you dont?

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wa

glass mortar
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no now he loves wangs

novel socket
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friendship with boobs and bras is over

glass mortar
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awangs to be clear

novel socket
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now he loves butts and thongs

dim widget
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unluigi

keen belfry
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i still do, i was just more inspired by those commericals as a 11 year old

sharp hinge
jolly geyser
sharp hinge
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Blizzard probably outsouces Devs from Fiver

vivid vessel
glass mortar
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dw u dont need to be

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im reporting it right now and ur not even logged in

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cya@ bozo

vivid vessel
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wtf gg

jolly geyser
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should try to make some alt with nsfw finnish name

fresh acorn
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My friend had a DH named Momentcum and it got taken away after a long time

vivid vessel
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based one

keen belfry
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idk how its even allowed

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when did make this character

dim widget
random stirrup
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Ilovepbandj

keen belfry
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i loved pb and js in college

rigid basin
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I've got Pornlok stashed, it was a randomly generated name too lol

sharp hinge
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wtf is the lizard's hunters lodge

sudden fulcrum
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dracthyr hunter discord

fervent garden
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Pornlok. heh.

glass mortar
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wh

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why do dracthyr have their own hunter discord

red zinc
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Ptr tomorro CAUGHT

shy meteor
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Because they are very special snowflakesComfyBear

frank finch
glass mortar
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?? tomorrow is americas birthday and blizzard employees will be off

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anyone found working on ptr will be sent to alligator alcatraz

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😠

red zinc
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ptr tomorro CAUGHT

sharp hinge
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blizzard employees work?

frank finch
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that place already flooding

rigid basin
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Forced Florida vacation

red zinc
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rogue rework tomorro CAUGHT

glass mortar
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most likely thing would be ptr with ptr notes tonight 5 minutes before blizzard officially closes as they force the unpaid intern to rush it out

leaden folio
red zinc
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Wait

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Datamining

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Did they actually drop a patch?

shy meteor
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Nipe

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Nope*

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Just more Dungeon tunings and Changes datamined and trinket stuff

red zinc
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How would they datamine anything if there wasnt a patch pushed

vivid vessel
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yes

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i cant find tho

frank finch
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they posted changes yesterday aswell

vivid vessel
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here

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but simc didnt pick it up

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@gaunt phoenix is simc watching ptr rn or not at all

frank finch
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HOLD

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any minute

vivid vessel
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but ye

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it was the dungeon changes or

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nah idk

sudden fulcrum
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wow zac is trolling again

frank finch
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yea just wowhead spliting stuff from day 1

red zinc
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We got gooped

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Why dont they datamine bubbles’ new location

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Type shit

sudden fulcrum
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bubbles's new location is that he spawns on you every time you respawn after dying

mighty pivot
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61703 is the build that we already have yeah

glass mortar
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bubbles should be hiding in the dungeon and ambush u

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only way to force m+ ABUSERS to stop breaking dungeons to skip unpleasant trash mobs

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like the delve miniboss, low chance anytime u kill a mob in any pack to summon bubbles and have him jump at u

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boss mobs counts

sudden fulcrum
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also bubbles should do that thing the delve goblin does where he calls a friend

mighty pivot
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you are killing mobs in priory minding your own business... BOOM bubbles shows and fucks your group up

sudden fulcrum
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and the friend is that new burrowing bubbles from Eco Dome

glass mortar
proven ocean
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@vivid vessel they did massive changes for melee comps did u see

glass mortar
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where did he come from? why is he 2000 feet in the sky?

proven ocean
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they should do the same for priory

glass mortar
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the true terror from below

mighty pivot
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bubbles paradropping on you?

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RWF mythic dimensius on 0.1% when suddenly he disappears to reveal his true master

glass mortar
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a giant blue swirly appears around the boss as hes about to die

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u dodge the aoe

vivid vessel
glass mortar
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its bubbles, knocking him back into the void

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then he turns to u

vivid vessel
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i mean it was stupid ye

glass mortar
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whatd they change on last boss

vivid vessel
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3 dots

errant quarry
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We’ve already met the last titan. His name is Bubbles.

vivid vessel
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instead of 5

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xd

glass mortar
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on what boss?

vivid vessel
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you stupid weran or

mighty pivot
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bubbles was the jailer's master

proven ocean
civic basalt
glass mortar
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yes i thought u guys were talking about last boss priory but apparently u arent

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or i have no idea what that boss is doing

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i dont remember any dots

proven ocean
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lots of caster changes that help melee comps and make caster comps worse

glass mortar
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o

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o right we actually need to deal with the poison, shame it doesnt slow u, then vanish would probably remove it

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i was mostly survival s1 so i just feigned practically every dot off

random stirrup
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Poison cleansing totem (it killed us more often than it helped us)

glass mortar
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i remember very early in the season shamans were like "oh look our utility is sick for this fight"

jolly geyser
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why cant rogue poison clean the grp?

glass mortar
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only to become the #1 terrorists of pugs

random stirrup
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Then it got the MD nerf from 45s to 2min kekW

vivid vessel
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cant evasion

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cast anymore

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eta gg

vivid vessel
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if they had removed the mobs that die while doing their aoe at the start maybe

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but i dont see anything here

proven ocean
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now 50 yards

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longer casts help melee comps imo

vivid vessel
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ah ok

proven ocean
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by alot

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cuz numbing poison will also be way stronger

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i see alot of longer casts now which is nice

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i hate short casts

vivid vessel
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ye

abstract frost
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every cast should be as fast as the earthshatter in ToP mini boss

random stirrup
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Making the volley casts shorter in priory was an interesting choice

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel WTF

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look

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no way they did this

jolly geyser
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rogues should be able to give out a antivenom for negative stats effects

proven ocean
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shield increased by 66%?

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are they crazy

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or what

vivid vessel
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priory changes are weird

proven ocean
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lol?

fresh acorn
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They’re making us go right

vivid vessel
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they want you to go right basically

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except the trash on the right

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gives 0 count

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cause its all shielders guys

proven ocean
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no right is good now

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but

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why nerf priest?

vivid vessel
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its not ross

proven ocean
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its literally balanced now

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zac

vivid vessel
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its not

proven ocean
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i talked to asuna abit about it

vivid vessel
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one sec

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i show you

proven ocean
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they nerfed fire guy hp

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i know

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what u mean

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but

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they nerfed his hp

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and the dmg

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so he's not too bad

sudden fulcrum
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i think they just want us to go right in s3

proven ocean
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i dont understand the shorter flamestrike cast

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its weird

abstract frost
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prot pallys are giga happy now

proven ocean
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idk dude the guy who made these changes is dumb as fuck

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he doesn't play m+

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fucking donkey heads

vivid vessel
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basically

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to do comparable packs its 2x the amount of mobs

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so

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idk

proven ocean
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ur adding footmens ppl dont play those usually

vivid vessel
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the % is shit cause its all footmans

proven ocean
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4 and 3 at corner

vivid vessel
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ye thats my point tho ?

proven ocean
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ye but zac keep in mind

vivid vessel
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there is only footmans

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on the right

sudden fulcrum
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DEFEND all day incoming

proven ocean
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that miniboss will die rly fast now

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it has low hp and no shield at all

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so

abstract frost
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no lightspawns either

proven ocean
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im sure the chinese guys will figure it out

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cuz

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they're the ones who make the best routes

vivid vessel
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I mean

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right size

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side

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is just

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shit count ross

proven ocean
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i know zac

vivid vessel
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maybe the miniboss is better

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but every other mob

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is 0 count

mighty pivot
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they might have moved footmen around depending on how you interpret their patch notes

proven ocean
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miniboss is good now

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so

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idk if what ur saying is true

vivid vessel
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yes maybe

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what

proven ocean
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like sure low count but

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its not really worse

vivid vessel
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you realize you still need to do around 30% count

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in that area

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its very very bad rn

proven ocean
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u removed 1st miniboss pull didnt u

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on the 2nd pic

vivid vessel
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even if you make the miniboss has way lower health

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no

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i just changed that second area to be on the right instead of left

proven ocean
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i'll login and see then

vivid vessel
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its litteraly 2x the amount of mobs

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for same count

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like you need to churns trough twice the hp basically

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even if miniboss has less health

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rn

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it doesnt rally work

sudden fulcrum
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i wonder how much damage you'd need to still time it with that much count

abstract frost
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I think it will be fine

vivid vessel
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but idk

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this

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is like

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you never kill that guy

abstract frost
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can still go left if you have good prio classes

vivid vessel
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its weird

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idk

abstract frost
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thing is

sudden fulcrum
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ya just prio the gigantic absorb shield and die doing it

abstract frost
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how are you gonna sheynmail onto damian

vivid vessel
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gonna be hell to deal with all the shields aswell

abstract frost
fresh acorn
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Maybe for ptr they’re gonna force us right to better balance it for live

vivid vessel
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our route is dead gg

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cant win against caster comp now

abstract frost
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i guess back to standing on candle

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unless

proven ocean
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zac what u linked is an over exxaguration btw

abstract frost
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that got nerfed too

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xD

proven ocean
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look at the difference

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in 3 pulls

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its literally way more count btw

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than the usual routes

abstract frost
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oh the knight pat on the right side is also giga cringe

vivid vessel
abstract frost
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it pats much further

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than the left side

vivid vessel
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you just pulled the only efficient mobs there is on the right

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aka the lighstpawn pack

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i just showed you

proven ocean
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xd

vivid vessel
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my screenshot isnt exageration

vivid vessel
proven ocean
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ur making a shit route picture

vivid vessel
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tho

proven ocean
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that nobody will play

vivid vessel
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im not

proven ocean
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so

vivid vessel
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im showing you

proven ocean
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yes u are

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no one will play that route

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im telling you

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if it becomes meta

vivid vessel
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its not a route

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bro

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its how many mobs you need to play

proven ocean
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yes but u need to make a proper route

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to compare

vivid vessel
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to get the same count as left

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i pulled the efficient mobs

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i pulled all i could

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except the knight pack

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because you dont do that pack on the left either

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my comparaison is a 1:1

abstract frost
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you can still make it efficient on the right if you invis pot pull lightspawn right?

mighty pivot
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guys it's time for the daily zac v zeross fight garf_sit

vivid vessel
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and a caster = 4 footmans

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in efficiency

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so good luck with that

abstract frost
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since knight got nerfed

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can you make up count one first pull

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pull it with captain

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on*

vivid vessel
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idk

abstract frost
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like the old routes did

vivid vessel
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pulling a knight means you have to focus it

proven ocean
abstract frost
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yah thats fine

vivid vessel
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then miniboss never dies

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and you are just slow

proven ocean
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more count

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it'll be faster

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by alot

abstract frost
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i play sin so i can focus captain while feral and arms focus knight

vivid vessel
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bro made the worse route ever on the left

abstract frost
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or vice versa

vivid vessel
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but ok

proven ocean
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its worse for your comp

vivid vessel
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no one plays that

proven ocean
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we do

vivid vessel
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you havent played in 2 years

proven ocean
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we had r1 priory on that route

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on 20 and 19

vivid vessel
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ye 5 months ago

proven ocean
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?

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we had r1 priory on almost all levels

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our comp doesnt play lightspawns

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what are u talking about

vivid vessel
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its a slower route zeross

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the % is less efficient

proven ocean
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no its not

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its slower for you

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stop saying slower

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ur outlaw

vivid vessel
rigid basin
vivid vessel
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my guy

proven ocean
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ur pretending like every route works for you and nobody else

vivid vessel
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we have the fastest priory route

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and everyone plays the same mobs in priory

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because its better %

proven ocean
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we had multiple r1 priory runs

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idk what ur trying to say here

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because lightspawns isn't better for sin comp

vivid vessel
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bro its not

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bro

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its not like

frank finch
fervent garden
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bro

proven ocean
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your so annoying and clueless its crazy

vivid vessel
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im not inventing things here

proven ocean
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ur ego is annoying lately

vivid vessel
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you just look at mobs

proven ocean
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ngl

vivid vessel
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and look at % given

keen belfry
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😭

vivid vessel
abstract frost
vivid vessel
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bro saying that while egoing me

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is crazy

keen belfry
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Guys they are fighting again

proven ocean
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im telling you its worse for sin rogue

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and ur like

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no its not because i say so

proven ocean
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xd

dim widget
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what is current rtb logic

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what offhand do i use?

vivid vessel
dim widget
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is ho or kir better?

vivid vessel
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thats all im saying

sharp hinge
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people spend far too much time on this game

proven ocean
vivid vessel
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ok

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well

pearl trout
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Everytime I open this channel and is Zac and Zeross fighting I feel like this

proven ocean
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idk why ur trying ot poinjt that out like 10 times

vivid vessel
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idk why i even discuss with you

keen belfry
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That’s such a bad Hahahah

vivid vessel
proven ocean
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ur so fucking annoying ngl

keen belfry
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“I know everything about efficiency” hahahah

proven ocean
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guys

proven ocean
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i have to play outlaw route

fervent garden
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the bottle in the daddy wolfs hands makes it so mych more

proven ocean
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outlaw route = sin route

vivid vessel
proven ocean
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we never played mage comp route all season btw

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idk what ur linking here

vivid vessel
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numbers

proven ocean
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4 footmens only btw

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good one bro

civic basalt
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!wa

frank finch
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im gonna go with the higher io guy here

proven ocean
sharp hinge
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just curious, is Zac or Zeross in the MDI?

jolly geyser
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neither

sharp hinge
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lul

random stirrup
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zac played last season

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my goat outlaw

proven ocean
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and he didnt even qualify

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doesnt mean shit

vivid vessel
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we passed time trial

abstract frost
proven ocean
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ye everyone can do that

errant quarry
vivid vessel
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I know

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ty zeross

sudden fulcrum
proven ocean
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idk why u keep comparing ur comp's route with a vdh route

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ur either clueless or just straight up trolling rn

sudden fulcrum
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surely you could argue without insulting each other

proven ocean
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because i dont think u know how bad lightspawns are for our comp

vivid vessel
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I love talking with zeross and getting called a dumbass about 5 times a minute

lime lake
sharp hinge
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the real question is, who would win in a boxing match

proven ocean
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ye and u spam OMEGA s

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and i can't send an emote too

jolly geyser
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idk why you guys compare here and not dms

proven ocean
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good one

chilly atlas
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i thought zac was zeross' hero

red zinc
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Masculinity battle over a specific mob in a specific route in a specific dungeon in a specific video game

lime lake
proven ocean
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and how its inefficient for assa rogue

jolly geyser
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not for new players which rogue needs

vivid vessel
red zinc
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i couldnt care less no cappy

sharp hinge
jolly geyser
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duh

vivid vessel
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bro litteraly talking like trump is crazy

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i would never

proven ocean
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thats big cap

keen belfry
proven ocean
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chat i played 4 footmens its a deplete

vivid vessel
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it is

proven ocean
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omg

sudden fulcrum
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My route is the best. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it

proven ocean
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what do i do

abstract frost
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Guys

proven ocean
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1 footmen per pull holy shmoly im about to deplete the run

lime lake
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many people are saying it

abstract frost
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We going left or right?

jolly geyser
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mid

abstract frost
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Whats more efficient?

proven ocean
mighty pivot
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blizzard better release that ptr patch before zac and zeross get divorced monkaGIGA

proven ocean
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1000 footmens per pull

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and zac is saying no one is gona play that

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i barely see footmens here

vivid vessel
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bro playing a miniboss with 3 mobs

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💀

proven ocean
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its a 9 mob pull

vivid vessel
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gonna st the miniboss for about 10 years

proven ocean
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what are u talking about

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?

vivid vessel
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the other one

proven ocean
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what

vivid vessel
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there is another miniboss

proven ocean
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5 mobs isn't gona last 10 years

vivid vessel
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no the miniboss is

proven ocean
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they'll die same time

vivid vessel
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i guess you one shot it cause assa

proven ocean
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we have big funnel

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so yes

red zinc
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10 years? You must be minus seventeenthousanding the key

proven ocean
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zac i understand why you would question another route but u cant just say its wrong

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because it doesnt work for you

vivid vessel
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thats not what i said tho

proven ocean
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because im sure if i play ur route now it wont work for me at all

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like i'll deplete it even

proven ocean
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ur route is extremely dogshit for sin

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but very strong for outlaw

abstract frost
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What about sub

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wheres the route for sub?

jolly geyser
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what about non rogue

red zinc
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I can see why they stopped playing together

proven ocean
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sub can suck balls on both routes

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sub is the worst spec in the game in priory

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its not even close

vivid vessel
proven ocean
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no i didnt

vivid vessel
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no cap

proven ocean
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idk why u keep saying that all the time

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i only said it was dogshit pre bladeflurry fix

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and ur pretending like i always say that

red zinc
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zinc how many times do I need to agree with you when you fight with zeross for a 20 ML

dim widget
vivid vessel
jolly geyser
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zac and zeross need to do a m+ with no gear on

lime lake
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zinc is zacs slightly more metal brother

proven ocean
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everytiem i talk to you

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you keep saying the opposite

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no matter what

red zinc
quaint mauve
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how helpful do yall think the class group WAs are

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they seem nice but i dont wanna flood my UI

proven ocean
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guys i think sin is op, zac is gonna show up no ur lying u think sin is weak stop saying that ur thinking that way

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guys i can't wait for zac to use my brain to express my thoughts out there in the wilds

neat bobcat
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just a quick question, what does KiR and HO mean for abbreviations. I'm only familiar with assa and sub terms

chilly atlas
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keep it rolling hidden opp

glass mortar
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keep it rolling and hidden oppurtunity, the two main capstones

neat bobcat
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thank you

glass mortar
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that our builds work around

red zinc
chilly atlas
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hidden opps new rogue skill

neat bobcat
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also no more deft manuvers?

vivid vessel
glass mortar
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kir m+ builds all use deft

proven ocean
quaint mauve
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!wa

proven ocean
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or is it yesterday idk

vivid vessel
neat bobcat
vivid vessel
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so that was after bf fix

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way after

glass mortar
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wtf ross can bench zac?

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i mean we all knew ross was jacked af

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did his service after all

proven ocean
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i mean

sharp hinge
red zinc
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This man was talking about getting ice cream mid service

proven ocean
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it was my healer's call not mine

red zinc
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Idk cuh

proven ocean
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if u ask me, outlaw is dogshit with sin yes

vivid vessel
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and its not even out of context

proven ocean
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i dont think we have good synergy

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we're talking about our comp

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aren't we

vivid vessel
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nah it wasnt even

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about comp really

proven ocean
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xd

jolly geyser
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I would never 2 or 3 rogue,seems ass

proven ocean
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it was literally about you

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you literally said that

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outlaw is dogshit with sin

vivid vessel
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what i never said that

sudden fulcrum
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there is so much sexual tension

vivid vessel
#

proof or fake

sudden fulcrum
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you guys should kiss

lime lake
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us first

vivid vessel
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bro im so bored

sudden fulcrum
proven ocean
vivid vessel
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i need ptr rn

proven ocean
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the context is about the comp

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ur just straight up yapping rn

vivid vessel
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it wasnt about comp

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but i dont wanna dox the whole convo so

proven ocean
#

OH NOW ITS NOT ABOUT THE COMP

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guys

vivid vessel
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its whatever

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the convo wasnt

proven ocean
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he got benched from the comp because outlaw isnt good with the comp

vivid vessel
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about comp

proven ocean
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and zac is now saying

vivid vessel
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it was about outlaw being dogshit

proven ocean
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no

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it isnt about the comp

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xdxdxdxd

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xd

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xd

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xd

vivid vessel
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what

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ok now im lost

proven ocean
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bruh

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u brought a msg

vivid vessel
proven ocean
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from

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when we talked about outlaw in our comp

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am i wrong

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?

vivid vessel
#

ye but it was a general statement in that context

proven ocean
#

WDYM GENERAL

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IT WAS ABOUT OUR GROUP

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specifically

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nothing else

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idk why ur generalising it now

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its like u want to change the context to ur own thoughts

leaden folio
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where the bro with the meme about zac&zeross fighting daily

vivid vessel
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the second message was litteraly about outlaw being dogshit cause we depleted a rookery cause of rng

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nothing about comp here

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just outlaw

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straight up outlaw

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the dogshit spec

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my spec

vivid vessel
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dogshit

proven ocean
vivid vessel
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the spec fault

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dogshit spec

proven ocean
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im posting this in my room

solar hazel
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Can someone explain why you would use sinister strike over just pressing ambush in subterfuge window? Cause i saw a video where this happened but it doesnt really make sense?

errant quarry
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At first I was enjoying my popcorn but now they’ve shat on each other so much that some of it is in my popcorn and now I’m sad.

ornate heathBOT
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Builds without HO do not press ambush Ambush because it does not proc ps Fan the Hammer. ss Sinister Strike was also changed to proc cto Count the Odds so SS is always a better global.

vivid vessel
proven ocean
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!kirambush

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!ambushkir

ornate heathBOT
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Builds without HO do not press ambush Ambush because it does not proc ps Fan the Hammer. ss Sinister Strike was also changed to proc cto Count the Odds so SS is always a better global.

proven ocean
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!outlawsucks

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wrong command oops

leaden folio
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!zerosswrongspec

solar hazel
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Hmm it just feels way more shit sometimes when just pressing sinister strike

proven ocean
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!zacisalwayswrong

vivid vessel
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yuou said my spec was dogshit

vivid vessel
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I member

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is all

solar hazel
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Right i saw it now

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Read it wrong

glass mortar
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its low rolls can feel worse because SS generates so little

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it is what it is

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we all want some form of rng protection against the basic procs of law

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SS should not be generating anywhere from 1-6CP based on procs and RtB buffs

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bit nonsense fr

jolly geyser
jolly geyser
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was gonna say watch movie/series but his attention span is prolly 2min

glass mortar
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zac have u watched andor

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im watching it rn its a banger fr

nimble sage
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How does the outlaw opener look? I couldnt find any on wowhead

vivid vessel
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will watch s2 someday

nimble sage
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thanks!

shy pecan
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and then you add kurt angle to the mix

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and shit gets even wilder

vivid vessel
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@proven ocean

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we buy ?

abstract frost
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Luckylee Here.

proven ocean
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idk

vivid vessel
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Hi luckylee here

proven ocean
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i dont like

vivid vessel
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ye a bit bulky

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the purples ones are nice tho

proven ocean
#

i like the katanas

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im using

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look at them

vivid vessel
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yeyue i know they are nice

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but too small to me

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you barely see them

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bubble spanwed

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in my shop

glass mortar
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last months trading post katanas?

leaden folio
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bis

vivid vessel
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wtf

proven ocean
proven ocean
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i'll buy it later

glass mortar
#

yea they r pretty damn good

proven ocean
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and name it zac

vivid vessel
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tff

leaden folio
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buble is bis

proven ocean
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no i'll name it Tompelvis

sharp hinge
vivid vessel
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do i buy this shit tho

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its like ugly but

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it has potential i feel

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maybe not purple tho

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where other color

proven ocean
proven ocean
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i like it abit

nimble sage
vivid vessel
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thsi one better

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from the thig

red zinc
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!fuu

ornate heathBOT
jolly geyser
shy pecan
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xd

leaden folio
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the soulder have cool effect

proven ocean
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i'll use it for my priest when i do play priest

leaden folio
#

someone do this

sharp hinge
vivid vessel
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rogue betrayer

solar hazel
#

Is there a downside to playing HO like less dam?

vivid vessel
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@proven ocean this you ?

shy pecan
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less neurons required

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is biggest drawback

solar hazel
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So its just easier

gaunt phoenix
proven ocean
gaunt phoenix
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its not oppressively strong tho

sudden fulcrum
#

Zeross confirmed to be fel hog

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel alert PTR alert IS alert DOWN alert GOGOGOGOOG alert alert alert alert alert

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ptr ptr

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PTR PTR

leaden folio
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zeross and :alert:

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iconic duo

abstract frost
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Wait. Can you get nunchucks on rouge?

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rogue*

keen belfry
#

deft?

proven ocean
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no

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awang

jolly geyser
shy pecan
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numbers are bigger

proven ocean
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im disappointed in that question

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ngl

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i thought ur a big rogue

keen belfry
#

sometimes im dumb

proven ocean
#

its because of higher grandmelee uptime

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wtf awang

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..

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deft helps but a small amount

vivid vessel
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the swords are too squared

keen belfry
#

why does gm affect bigger pulls? im under impression he means like, 15 target pulls

vivid vessel
#

@gaunt phoenix thoughts ?

proven ocean
shy pecan
proven ocean
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wait

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yea

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no wait

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actually

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dont wait

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i hate it zac

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ye

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dont buy no cappi

lime lake
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bros stabbing them with wooden planks

jolly geyser
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just go to transmog channel and look for back sheathing weapons pin

sharp hinge
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how long have zeross and zac been playing wow

lime lake
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a couple weeks

glass mortar
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idk why kir would scale better into uncapped other then moderatly more cdr for vanish on average to reset ur cudgel

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in general its always scaled better into aoe tho

keen belfry
dim widget
quaint mauve
#

these sound indicators for my stealth timer ending is nice

glass mortar
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solo might just mean 8 targets vs 3-4 targets

gaunt phoenix
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ye

glass mortar
#

HO does better at low target cleave/st

keen belfry
#

ohh ok

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i was like what does kir have for big pulls that ho doesnt

glass mortar
#

and its (probably) largely because of deft + kir gets its strength from RtB buff uptime and on average RtB buffs scale better with targets then the raw builder strength/crackshot consitency HO gets

keen belfry
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and my definiton of big pullwas like more than 8

glass mortar
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idk if we've ever officially found the "source" of kir scaling better in aoe

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its just always gained more as u add targets then HO (by various degrees, usually not very much obviously)

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like GM uptime for example scales ur aoe damage harder then ur ST damage so thats a direct thing u could look at

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since KiR will have higher average uptime on all buffs then HO

keen belfry
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how much dps % is RP worth

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or broadside

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i bet higher than id guess

glass mortar
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i think solo or zac did a RtB buff individual analysis (which has problems with determining actual value but its a fine general thingy) a few months ago

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u could probably find it if u searched

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i cant rn

keen belfry
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considering GM is just a 5% buff in ST and its not bis bis ST buff at all

vivid vessel
#

its litteraly

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deft

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dude

glass mortar
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like idk if we found the exact reason

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it cant just be deft

vivid vessel
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deft + more uptime on buffs

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but its definitly deft

glass mortar
#

ok

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so exactly what i said

vivid vessel
#

deft is a big talent

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that you dont have in st

quaint mauve
#

crit chain on belt or something else?

glass mortar
#

i just wasnt sure u guys ever checked that out in sims idk

vivid vessel
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while ho doesnt change from st to aoe

red zinc
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i did new mog

vivid vessel
#

i mean why do you even need to check that

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tho

red zinc
#

not a meme for once

vivid vessel
#

deft is litteraly a dps loss for ho

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and like ininfite gain for kir

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while being a aoe talent only

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so

glass mortar
#

is it an infinite gain for kir

vivid vessel
#

its kinda obvious to me deft is mega carying kir aoe dfif

glass mortar
#

how much is that talent actually worth for kir

vivid vessel
#

idk

#

big

glass mortar
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shuld sim it

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what would u take instead

shy pecan
#

big if true

glass mortar
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the mastery thingy?

vivid vessel
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snd talent or hh

glass mortar
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or HH

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel

glass mortar
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id love to see the dif

proven ocean
#

ZAC I WANT RESIL 21 PLZ HELP ME GET SCORE I WANT TO BE LIKE YOU PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

red zinc
#

I wish they'd draft you again no cappy

proven ocean
#

zac no cap u should try osrs

keen belfry
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idk how kir 1fth would function without deft

proven ocean
#

osrs is fun as hell

glass mortar
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zzz all my profiles r expired at work

#

i havent simmed in too long

proven ocean
#

@keen belfry when will u join us

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in osrs

#

?

keen belfry
#

what even is osrs

proven ocean
#

its a rly good game man

keen belfry
#

runescape

quaint mauve
#

why is there a black wall i cant interact with at the entrance of my delve

proven ocean
#

@glass mortar you too

keen belfry
#

but what is runescape

glass mortar
#

i played osrs before u bozos

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im just waiting for the next season to play again

proven ocean
#

do u have an acc

#

or what

glass mortar
#

and slowly maxing in rs3

proven ocean
#

what lvl

#

combat lvl are u

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in osrs

#

?

glass mortar
#

uhh fuck it was like 2 years ago idr

proven ocean
#

like 126?

glass mortar
#

i think i was only like mid 70s

vivid vessel
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@glass mortar

glass mortar
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lolno

proven ocean
#

ah

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ur a giga casual

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wtf

glass mortar
#

it was a new toon i made 3 or so years ago

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played on and off for a year it was cute with some friends

proven ocean
vivid vessel
glass mortar
#

so maximum possible gain ye

#

6.5% not bad

vivid vessel
#

yer

#

so by default right

glass mortar
#

probably doing most of the heavy lifting then

vivid vessel
#

if kir = ho in st

#

kir is 6% ahead in aoe

proven ocean
#

kir is ahead by alot usually yes

vivid vessel
#

and kir = ho in st most of the time

glass mortar
#

probably more

proven ocean
#

deft and GM

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is crazy good

glass mortar
#

RtB buffs def a factor

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but ye

vivid vessel
#

then you add more gm uptime etc

glass mortar
#

minimum of that amount

vivid vessel
#

but like

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to me its quite obvious

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the big thing that is like

#

easy to see

glass mortar
#

yes i think so to, thats why i typed what i typed

vivid vessel
#

is deft

#

i didnt read what you typed

glass mortar
#

i just wasnt 100% sure cause i never simmed it to check

vivid vessel
#

no time

glass mortar
#

i said it was due to deft and RtB buffs

vivid vessel
#

no i said that

glass mortar
#

me first

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😠

vivid vessel
#

broo idk

#

why are these swords not

gaunt phoenix
#

wtf

vivid vessel
#

like

#

a sword shape

#

it would be so good

abstract frost
#

shit is ass

vivid vessel
#

i dont like that its square

#

t would have been so good

gaunt phoenix
#

yunli swords

vivid vessel
#

talking to me

vivid vessel
#

ok

glass mortar
#

cuh got scammed

vivid vessel
#

pipe down

glass mortar
#

u bought broken swords man

#

icant

keen belfry
abstract frost
#

looks like planks

glass mortar
#

look at them, u havent even used em yet and already broken

abstract frost
mighty pivot
#

nice waste of coins PEPW the swords look gigabad

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel i dont mean to ego but