outlaw

[vivid vessel]

idk why you act like that

[proven ocean]

?

[vivid vessel]

oh look guys

[proven ocean]

zac

[vivid vessel]

pure st

no funnel btw

[proven ocean]

ur either stupid or ur just trying to be annoying here

[vivid vessel]

nothing special going on

nah bro

[jolly geyser]

yes lets talk about 20+ keys with people who havent done a key above the minimum for vault

[proven ocean]

its the only pure st fight in ptr

dont bro me

i cba with you

[mint crater]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pTAE4z9NvdNnFp1xAisqsq

[proven ocean]

you're always acting like ur right all the time

[mint crater]

Guys In this build Do I need some haste more?

[proven ocean]

its the only pure st fight in the game that every streamer is comparing to

[vapid sundial]

People have a fixation on when the top end of keys doesnt matter and literally no1 cares about them

[mint crater]

I dont know feeling like yea

[proven ocean]

and ur pretending like ur the only one who doesnt do that

legit cringelord

[vapid sundial]

sim recrafting to haste vers and see

what it says

[vivid vessel]

idk why you always act like an ass perma

but ok

[proven ocean]

i said pure st

[mint crater]

there is a why to do that?

[proven ocean]

and ur saying ur annoying ur wrong u dont know what ur talking about

and u expect me to reply to you with flowers

[vapid sundial]

Theres a + on the item when you'rel ooking at it, it will say recraft to X/X

[mint crater]

ah item buy item.

by

[proven ocean]

u made it a very big deal with just a fight that has a minimal dmg amp

[vapid sundial]

just take away 2 m

to be generous

bc they used during cds

and probably a bit closer to realistic

[mint crater]

its telling me to change gems to ver crit but I will be under 15% haste

[vivid vessel]

forget to mention

perma 10% damage amp that also goes to 30%

for 30s

[proven ocean]

thats if u do it perfectly

[vapid sundial]

are you playing ho?

[mighty pivot]

you are playing HO without GS, haste is less important so it is expected that it prefers crit+vers

[vivid vessel]

spam emote

zeross

[proven ocean]

?

every class does that dmg amp

ur pretending like these classes do it and outlaw doesnt

[vapid sundial]

We dont have the context of how much outlaw does

with teh amp

tho

you need to post a comparison

not just 'look at what these guys are doing'

[proven ocean]

doesnt matter at all brotherman

[vapid sundial]

????

[proven ocean]

this fight is the only fight with no adds

on ptr

[mighty pivot]

also outlaw doesn't have CDs to take advantage of the amp

[proven ocean]

and zac is showing up saying this fight isnt st

[vapid sundial]

Yes, but if im not playing potr right

no

thats not what zac is saying

[proven ocean]

every class has the same circumstances

[vapid sundial]

hes saying you are being disingenous by comparing a fight most people havent touched bc its on ptr

[proven ocean]

and its 710 ilvl btw

[vivid vessel]

its like linking last boss priory

[proven ocean]

not 730

[vivid vessel]

guys

look

specs doing higher st than outlaw

[proven ocean]

last boss priory u pull adds on top

[mint crater]

yes HO without GS, but when I´m with low haste i its feell weord

[vivid vessel]

last boss rookery *

[vapid sundial]

Ross.
Ross.

[proven ocean]

?

[vapid sundial]

How many people do you think have played ptr

[proven ocean]

u pull adds on top too

lol

[vapid sundial]

and know the mechanics?

and that it has a dmg amp?

[vivid vessel]

ye whatever

you just

idk if its an act honestly

sometimes

idk

[proven ocean]

its just a 30% amp

idk why ur trying to be annoying here

give me a better fight to compare

instead of saying ur acting ur acting

cringe comments ngl

[vivid vessel]

I just responded

its not a pure st fight

it has a damage amp

and you spammed emojkirs

[proven ocean]

amp is barely a big deal

[vivid vessel]

acting like im stupid

[vapid sundial]

dmg amp is better for other classes than outlaw no?

[proven ocean]

its rly small

[vapid sundial]

since they have burst

and we dont

xd

[proven ocean]

and uptime isnt high at all

[worldly shale]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[proven ocean]

doesnt line up with cds

u have to run and stuff

[vapid sundial]

Yeah but up to 30%

makes up for that

[proven ocean]

its shit for everyone anyways

[vapid sundial]

But anyway.

You are posting out of context bc you are assuming everyone knows how every fight on ptr works

[proven ocean]

enh and boomy are doing 8-10m st

[vapid sundial]

is what hes saying

[proven ocean]

on it

i dont think that st is based on that amp

[vapid sundial]

when 95% of us probably dont know

[proven ocean]

that lasts 10% of the fight

if not less

[vapid sundial]

Well

Enh is def giga broken

their tier is insane

[vivid vessel]

you have it almost perma

at least 10 %

then you have the one that ramp up to 30%

that you can keep for 30s

extending it from 10% to 30%

[proven ocean]

10 seconds

per stack

[vivid vessel]

anywya

[proven ocean]

and thats when u take it

[vivid vessel]

outlaw is doing less st on that fight

[proven ocean]

so it diminishes

[vivid vessel]

than on s1

st fights

so

[vapid sundial]

thats crazy

LOL

[proven ocean]

yea well

outlaw got a big nerf with tier set gone

[vivid vessel]

turns out

you nerf ks cd

brick the whole trickster loop

and add a trash tier set

that does nothing

you do 0 damage

[vapid sundial]

they hate outlaw having loops

dont you know

[mighty pivot]

it's ok they gave KS +12% dmg

[vapid sundial]

Devs are cooked

[mighty pivot]

that solves everything

[vapid sundial]

they do what we want

then they brick it

like

[proven ocean]

i did 2.9m, 3.1m on that fight remember

[vapid sundial]

we just cant win man

[patent mirage]

didnt they say they gona change the set

[proven ocean]

its just rng now zac

idk when i played outlaw it was doing more than s1 for me

3.1m is high kinda

[mighty pivot]

they will look into the 2p

[proven ocean]

i think i can do more maybe

but u need rng

[vapid sundial]

will they

they have sent outlaw into tier being absolutely gutter trash before

[tender wedge]

If it’s that far behind then either it gets buffed and/or other stuff gets nerfed 🤷‍♂️

[vapid sundial]

no

[mighty pivot]

yes realz said it's being judged

[vapid sundial]

you guys dont know

[vivid vessel]

ye they might look into it the same way they did ks

[vapid sundial]

the horror

of season 3 SL

[vivid vessel]

'imagine thats all we get for ks

[rancid portal]

What’s that trickster loop?

[vivid vessel]

can feel it coming

[proven ocean]

idk 3 min ks is just doomed i think outlaw is dead kinda

[mighty pivot]

I mean they only said they will look into it, not that they will make good changes

[proven ocean]

needs a good fix

[mighty pivot]

technically didn't lie

[proven ocean]

i think sub is better than outlaw on ptr atm evne

even*

its crazy

[vapid sundial]

Thats normal

Sub has almost always been the best spec

like

80% of the time

[mighty pivot]

trickster plays like shit on ptr compared to live with current set

[civic zephyr]

i feel like assassination chat is so much more optimistic vs outlaw chat when changes happen. which makes me always lean towards playing sin rogue. idk why

[vapid sundial]

thats bc they have mods

and we dont

[proven ocean]

sin chat is the weirdest one

[vapid sundial]

(nothing against solo, its hard to mod. . solo)

[tender wedge]

Lol

[proven ocean]

and its not even close

full of weirdo's

[civic zephyr]

lmao

[vapid sundial]

Ross calling someone weird

pot meet kettle moment

[haughty wigeon]

this btw

[proven ocean]

if im calling you weird u really have a problem ngl

[rigid basin]

It's Zac and Zeross dooming vs Guy and Solos Vibing

[haughty wigeon]

outlaw always gets super doomy in ptr and it ends up okay

[proven ocean]

[vapid sundial]

The fuck it does

[haughty wigeon]

sin is weird but only cause the regulars there are really comfortable with each other

[vapid sundial]

I will never forget sl seasonb 3

[proven ocean]

not really they are weird to everyone

[rigid basin]

The rest of us are just watching

[proven ocean]

legit everyone

especially the new players

[haughty wigeon]

i dont see it

sin is very helpful towards new players

[vapid sundial]

they like to say shit like read your buttons

idk

thats all ive seen

[haughty wigeon]

its just the dumbones that appear that shake up the norm

like all class cords

[proven ocean]

i wont call out names but when i was pushed few weeks ago, i had Coaching send dm's on discord and i was getting dm's x guy is always teling me im dumb as fuck and wont tell me why this talent is better or why i shouldn't play this build or whatnot

i kinda closed coaching thing so ye cba kinda

[proven ocean]

and i really see it in their chat alot too

[tender wedge]

That’s because assass is the entry rogue spec, they’ve already learned how to read tooltips by the time they turn up here

[vapid sundial]

I feel like al ot of people learn better having something explained than just reading a tooltip

tbh

[mighty pivot]

and here they learn to read pins

[haughty wigeon]

read pins pls

[chilly atlas]

you can call me out, it's fine

[rigid basin]

I thought Assa was for those of us who can't read

[tender wedge]

It’s a true journey

[haughty wigeon]

idk zeross

[proven ocean]

the time when i cooked the double shiv build they all hated me for no reason and said my build is dogshit and now everyone of those guys are playing it

and i have proof btw

[haughty wigeon]

sorry that happened i guess

[tender wedge]

Well yeah, but there’s a tonne of questions that are answered in tooltips that show up there

[rigid basin]

LMAO

[mighty pivot]

hey guys which belt mode do I use if I run hoc & abuse the snd bug

[haughty wigeon]

nah zeross i actually remember that

[proven ocean]

i find it funny that they're pushing with my talents now

after saying weird shit

[haughty wigeon]

i mean you said it at the start

[proven ocean]

it was genuinely weird i wouldnt even type that shit

[haughty wigeon]

with 0 proof

[vapid sundial]

Bc ur not a red or green name

[haughty wigeon]

just feels

and you just kinda be like that sometimes

[vapid sundial]

You are too agro for most people to like ross

honestly

that is the problem

[haughty wigeon]

ya your a great player and all man

[proven ocean]

i literally only linked the build once btw

and they went in shambles

[civic zephyr]

!log

[haughty wigeon]

but you cant just go and say "this build better" post a detail/build ss

[proven ocean]

everyone got pissed off

[proven ocean]

thats not what i did tho

i showed whispyr that the sims are wrong

and THEN

i posted details

[rigid basin]

Man was at the other end of the Ryu treatment

[haughty wigeon]

and disappear or aggressively push it

[rigid basin]

[proven ocean]

his apl was simming -10% up to -20% in some situations btw

whispyr wasn't weird about it atleast

others were

[haughty wigeon]

the other guys can get weird about it

i know

but again

[vapid sundial]

Sin is a buncha weirdos frfr

[haughty wigeon]

its like

[vapid sundial]

imagine wanting ass

in your name

like

[haughty wigeon]

how tcers kinda be like

[vapid sundial]

???

not even once

but TWICE

[proven ocean]

one of them is a TC so

[haughty wigeon]

cause again they do this shit for free

[proven ocean]

[haughty wigeon]

sometimes you can get a bit much and i feel like that what happen. but again tcers are a weird bunch

hearing multiple times

[vapid sundial]

Nah i think

its bc it was ross

[haughty wigeon]

that your thing is wrong by pepegas (not u btw) can make alot of them defensive

[vapid sundial]

and he has a track record sometimes

[proven ocean]

it wasn't one of the days where i was trolling

[haughty wigeon]

not done yet

cause like

[proven ocean]

i dont really go in sin chat to chat with people there

[haughty wigeon]

take bdk for example

[proven ocean]

i never do

[haughty wigeon]

and this is a good example

kryasis sims said jailer gavel was weaker than jaythis and he pushed that despite it being untrue

but his followers pushed it hard

[proven ocean]

i think ur missing the point here really because i didnt do anything regarding the build, they just act in a cringe way to everyone that makes up something new all the time and its not just me

[haughty wigeon]

and bdk tcers got annoyed and now defensive now everytime some dude says x is better and sims are wrong

and its like

[proven ocean]

it happened to alot of other top players in the past

[haughty wigeon]

something tcers have to deal with daily

[haughty wigeon]

ya i know

im just explaining

why tc culture is like that

so defensive

[vapid sundial]

I don't go into sin ever, i avoid it like the plague.

The few times i have gone in there i saw them telling people off so maybe.
But also, I think part of it might just be bc its you.
And you have a record of trolling / being unga sometimes.

[haughty wigeon]

like you dont troll in sin chat thats true

but you do have a history being weird yourself inoutlaw chat that adds on to why people get defensive

optics is immporant i guess

[proven ocean]

thats not true but ok

[haughty wigeon]

im not saying its your fault btw

[proven ocean]

i only chat in outlaw

i dont have any friends there anyway

[vapid sundial]

Im not saying being unga in there, im saying in general.

[proven ocean]

in general where

i only chat here

[vapid sundial]

here

man

you can be unga sometimes

[proven ocean]

?

what does sin channel have to do with this chat

[haughty wigeon]

you can get a bit unga, even if its just trollin

[proven ocean]

they dont even read this chat at all

[haughty wigeon]

they do

sadly

[proven ocean]

thats big cap

[haughty wigeon]

especially greennames

[vapid sundial]

the TC probably do

[haughty wigeon]

and orange names

and purple names

[vapid sundial]

^

[proven ocean]

wdym "^"

i dont see any red name

?

[haughty wigeon]

real

and true

[faint ferry]

lmao

[haughty wigeon]

hold on

[rigid basin]

^

[haughty wigeon]

since outlaw sucks rn

[vapid sundial]

^^^

[haughty wigeon]

there we go

[vapid sundial]

But yeahg

[haughty wigeon]

anyways

[vapid sundial]

ur a bit agro sometimes

[haughty wigeon]

outlaw sucks balls rn

[vapid sundial]

and they have probably seen that

[haughty wigeon]

so back to red rembourrage

[mighty pivot]

get him!

[rigid basin]

🥕

Traitor!

[proven ocean]

ye i post a build and everyone gets mad because im aggro

makes complete sense ryker

[vapid sundial]

Welcome to the internet

[proven ocean]

i posted proof and sims where things are broken

[vapid sundial]

People dont like being questioned

or told they are wrong

[chilly atlas]

it hurt my feelings

[haughty wigeon]

i mean its more than that ryker

people dont like to be told that

[hollow temple]

they are fun ye

[proven ocean]

thats what happened ye

[haughty wigeon]

when they have been told that by multiple randos without proof

like i mean

[burnt tangle]

wait zeross is a osrs player? based as fuck

[haughty wigeon]

alot of randos

[rigid basin]

Osrs is based

[haughty wigeon]

like a shit ton

[hollow temple]

makes you realize how machanical the game can be when you watch ppl doing pvm

[proven ocean]

ya i love osrs

[vapid sundial]

Ye, its just a human thing i think.

A lot of people dont like being told 'this is wrong, you are wrong'

Most people i know just insta go defensive

[burnt tangle]

honestly seeing you write brotherman sometimes kinda made me wonder if u watched osrs stuff

[vapid sundial]

and it escalates

[proven ocean]

i kinda suck on osrs

but im lvl 115 or someshit

forgot

[burnt tangle]

im a maxed ironman

[proven ocean]

sheeeeeeeeesh

[rigid basin]

Dayumm

[proven ocean]

i want to raid but idk how to raid

[vapid sundial]

actually that convo earlier with zac is a great example.

he told you that you were wrong ross, and you insta got defensive :^)

[burnt tangle]

have barely played the last year tho cause I started wow

[proven ocean]

i mean it wasn't even that

like

this i understand ryker

but

the sin thing

wasn't even close

[vapid sundial]

Yah i get it

they probably overreacted

[hollow temple]

<.>

[proven ocean]

i can show u what happened btw

[vapid sundial]

wouldnt surprise me

[proven ocean]

if u want

[vapid sundial]

sure

[proven ocean]

come to DMs

[vapid sundial]

dm me imma og make food

yah

[sudden fulcrum]

it's not always what you say, but how you say it. that is not a good way to say it and you won't convince anyone by explaining that way

[civic zephyr]

some1 look at my log and tell me why im shit please and ty

[lime plank]

Question, How do yall use/optimizes HoC in M+?

[tender wedge]

rip it on big aoe

[lime plank]

Kinda dead on ST I guess?

[proven ocean]

all trinkets are shit anyway

use on cd i suppose

[vapid sundial]

Should I make baked potatoes with bacon or bacon fries

[sullen walrus]

we will use seasons 2 tier set xD

[tight kernel]

What trinkets are yall using for kets

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix

i think

kir 1 fth

you just feel the loss of resources

from not having tier set

[timid portal]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[vivid vessel]

feel it a lot

[timid portal]

!rtb

[ornate heath]

How to use RTB
( HO build)

• Roll on cooldown until you get a 5 buff. If you have 4 total buffs including CTO, you can choose to keep them until 3, it's not an expected dps loss or gain.

( KIR build)

• Has a concept of buffs being preserved through RTB casts after pressing KIR instead of being rolled off.
• Use this weakaura to see how many buffs you "will lose" by pressing RTB (red or blue border).
• Roll if you will lose between 0-2 buffs.
• Roll if you will lose between 3-4 buffs if they are all below ~10s remaining.
• If you KIR a natural 5 buff, wait until buffs approach ~41s remaining before rolling.

The faq elaborates on these rules.

[gaunt phoenix]

i feel that

[hearty flare]

How come no tierset on ptr haven’t played outlaw yet was gonna send some tomorrow

Is it just bugged or?

[proven ocean]

u think x2 fth now?

might be fine in some dungeons later on

[sullen walrus]

fth- what does it mean?

[vivid vessel]

pc is too strong

also 2 fth works even less with trickster

[lone spear]

fan the hammer

talent in final gate above ghostly strike

[proven ocean]

true, i guess some routes just become unlocked because of it

which is cool

[mint crater]

@vapid sundial https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6oQ4Vj7Y7NsxwAsqAgUwcH

That´s my build, I´m little confuse about the haste

more or less, haste?

[sudden fulcrum]

how is it not there?

[rotund token]

Ey guys, what ability are we using for belt ? Im reading pin, charged crystal I dont see in details mostly, it just stops working so searching for alternative

[hearty flare]

Zac said “from not having tierset”

[rigid basin]

For HO Trickster 14-18%, it's fully depended on ur sim. Just go with what it tells you

[sudden fulcrum]

well i played on PTR yesterday and used the tier set. maybe there is something i am missing

[civic zephyr]

same ilvl but you sim a whole 1M higher than me https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kvXqWuL2AZnd8njvdMAY4S

[random stirrup]

No tier set, meaning no current season 2 tier set providing a lot of extra resources via buffs

[mighty pivot]

buffs vs no buffs

[random stirrup]

The season 3 set works fine

[hearty flare]

Ah alright thought I was missing something

[civic zephyr]

oh ok, idk how to see the buffs on these sims.. only when to apply them

[mighty pivot]

top right of the page

[civic zephyr]

OH the little icons, im an idiot, ty

[rigid basin]

Mine was simming low too, realized I logged out in ST spec xd

[proven ocean]

@hollow temple osrs is about to explode

just like classic wow and gta RP

both of them got carried by soda and other big streamers following him

sheeeeeeesh?

gta rp was xqc tbf but ye

[rigid basin]

Bet they don't even know who verf or slay brother is smh

[hollow temple]

It’s already been exploding fr

[proven ocean]

wait u think so?

why?

[hollow temple]

Yeah

Because they keep making great updates and QoL etc

[proven ocean]

notrickz can i ask u again

if i die i dont lose anything?

idk im paranoid about this

[hollow temple]

There’s like an endless amount of pvm in the game now and almost all of it is relevant

[proven ocean]

i have bad ptsd

about dying

in my younger ages

[hollow temple]

U don’t lose anything man lol

[proven ocean]

ok ok

[hollow temple]

Only if u get killed by a player

[proven ocean]

yy

[hollow temple]

In wilderness/pvp world

[proven ocean]

even in wilderness? if i die from boss its fine?

[rigid basin]

#meetmeinthewildy

[topaz gyro]

you get items back in gravestone

which you collect for 500k

[hollow temple]

yh

[proven ocean]

like he cant come to my bnody

body

and take my stuff?

even in wildy

[hollow temple]

nop

[proven ocean]

thats crazy wtf

ok then i just wont do wildy bosses

because i hate losing my shit

[hollow temple]

when farming wildy monsters

u take like dogshit gear

even if a play kills u, u keep 3-4 items

[proven ocean]

unless he smites me ofc

then thats gg

[hollow temple]

so u bring like 1 good weapon, a couple good gears

the rest 20k items

[hollow temple]

nah

smite is only for the 4th item

[proven ocean]

ah

[hollow temple]

if ur protecting item prayer

[proven ocean]

so 3 items im giga safe?

no matter what

[hollow temple]

ye

[rigid basin]

unless you skull

[hollow temple]

if u skull u lose everything

[rigid basin]

^

[proven ocean]

ok i heard about skull tricking people

[hollow temple]

but like

[proven ocean]

is that still a thing

or

[hollow temple]

skull tricking is omega dead

[proven ocean]

why

[hollow temple]

there's settings in game to prevent u from skulling

kekw

[proven ocean]

wtf

no way

thats crazy good

[hollow temple]

it basically won't let u left click players

to attack them

[proven ocean]

ye

[rigid basin]

Yeah it's great

[hollow temple]

you'll just yellow click to walk

[rigid basin]

keeps my dumb ass safe nuff

[hollow temple]

but honestly

u won't be farming wildy pvm

for a while

you'd be used to the game again

[proven ocean]

idk i hate the fact that the game feels empty when i do stuff

unless im doing skilling then i can see ppl i guess

[hollow temple]

idk you kinda see people everywhere these days

[proven ocean]

what new good changes did they do that's making everyone play?

oh

[hollow temple]

unless ur diong some really obscure shit

[hollow temple]

there's 3 raids now, and like 50+ bosses

they're about to add a new skill

uhhh

idk like

the QoL is way different

even from back in 2006 when the og game was good

[proven ocean]

i always wanted to go for corporeal beast but i was afraid of being pvped or dying to lose my shit there

[hollow temple]

there's hella mid game gear now

[proven ocean]

is it safe to go there now or

[hollow temple]

corp is safe ye

[proven ocean]

hmm

[hollow temple]

there's a tele straight to boss room

u just don't leave the boss area

[proven ocean]

[hollow temple]

and like

anything that might put u in the wild

has a warning pop up

you'd have go be giga dumb dumb

[proven ocean]

ya

[hollow temple]

i think one of the bigger things that makes a lot of ppl come back now is like

there's also midgame bosses

[proven ocean]

really

wtf

[hollow temple]

you don't need max stats and big bank to do fun shit or make gold etc

[proven ocean]

like

what bosses?

[hollow temple]

perilous moons

its a 3 boss thing

similar to barrows but a little harder

and drops gear thats better than barrows

the other one is uhhh.. hueycoatl? somethin like that

there's a couple more i forget

[proven ocean]

nicenice

oh

i was trying to login

my dumbass forgot its jagex client

[hollow temple]

did u make ur acc into a jagex acc

[proven ocean]

yah

i did play in those days abit

[hollow temple]

yh i think u need jagex launcher then

[proven ocean]

ya

[rigid basin]

Thankfully you can still use runelite thruit

[proven ocean]

ya

ngl they aren't as cringe as wow

otherwise they'd ban it

[rigid basin]

Facts

it's so goated

[proven ocean]

my bank, thoughts??

@hollow temple

[rigid basin]

No placeholders xd

This would drive me nuts

[proven ocean]

idk my brain doesnt like fixing

these things

[hollow temple]

oh you've played since araxxor was put in the game?

[rigid basin]

Hahaha

[proven ocean]

whats that

idk i played since osrs was added kinda

[hollow temple]

it drops the rancour ammy

that u have

[proven ocean]

is it unobtainable now?

[hollow temple]

no

[proven ocean]

idk i remmeber it increasing dmg of something

against dragons maybe

forgot

[hollow temple]

[proven ocean]

oh

its a melee neck

right

the neck was a blue one nvm

or someshit

[hollow temple]

ye the blue one is prolly salve(ei)

buffs dmg against undead mobs

[proven ocean]

ah

the spider boss

yea i played during that time then i went to army

i think we had a bear boss too

in that update

[hollow temple]

not sure tbh

i haven't played in like a year or more

til the past few weeks

[proven ocean]

cant wait to watch the big melons streamer while playing on 2nd screen

(jk)

[hollow temple]

[proven ocean]

ngl her stream is hilarious as hell

[hollow temple]

im still doing all the quests n shit

[proven ocean]

did u do dragonslayer 2

and monky madnesses

?

[hollow temple]

nah

[proven ocean]

rly wtf ur behind

[hollow temple]

i've done mm1

[proven ocean]

u dont have ferocious gloves?

[hollow temple]

nope

[proven ocean]

💀

[hollow temple]

i have 23 quests left rn

won't take very long

[proven ocean]

only?? i got more 67 quests left

[hollow temple]

[static geyser]

Twilight Dev or Gushing wounds?

[proven ocean]

quests are the most annoying shit in osrs imo

[hollow temple]

ye i agree

[proven ocean]

i hate long ass quests

[hollow temple]

some ppl like them

[rigid basin]

Whichever, TDev does more AoE w/ Variance but can pull mobs

[hollow temple]

but tbh i hate doing em

[proven ocean]

idk why do i need 70 runecrafting 70 hunting and some random bullshit

[hollow temple]

once you're done with them tho you never have to do em again

[proven ocean]

i hate that

[static geyser]

TDev sounds more fun

[hollow temple]

so its aight

[rigid basin]

I run it

Big lasers are cool

haven't pulled anything yety

[hollow temple]

i think 60rc is the max rc needed

for quests

but you need a lot of 70s ye

they're really fast tho tbh

[rigid basin]

Song of the Elves

[hollow temple]

getting 70 in any stat is very quick

its like a few hours or a day usually at most

and quests give a lot of exp rewards as well

if u use those to ur advantage u barely have to train some stuff manually

[proven ocean]

thats the bullshit i hate

70 hunting is diabolical

ngl

[hollow temple]

just do quests that give hunter exp

and do birdhouse runs

[rigid basin]

Birdhouse runs are way less tedious for sure

[hollow temple]

its like 3minute run for 4k exp

[proven ocean]

can u show ur stats notrickz

u said ur maxed or

[hollow temple]

that u can do every hour or a couple times a day

[proven ocean]

likee all 99s?

or

[hollow temple]

hell no

lmao

[proven ocean]

u said ur maxed ironman

or

[hollow temple]

no

someone else said that

lmao

my stats are dog

[proven ocean]

oh maybe

[rigid basin]

Was her

[hollow temple]

those are mine

[proven ocean]

true

[hollow temple]

i almost have all the stats for all quests

[proven ocean]

idk i like combat more

i hate random skills

boring af

most thing i hate about osrs is non combat stuff

[hollow temple]

ye a lot of ppl are like that

[proven ocean]

i just want to kill mobs

[hollow temple]

you kinda need some skills tho for unlocks

opens up a lot of the game fr

[proven ocean]

i loved farming vorkath

[hollow temple]

yh thats a decent boss

i want to get into raids etc

and do inferno

[proven ocean]

yea i wanted to do inferno but idk

not ready yet i think

[hollow temple]

yeh

kinda need 94 mage and high range

[proven ocean]

or be super good at inferno that you've done it above 500 times and can do it with 60 magic or someshit

[hollow temple]

fuck that

ik there's a few ppl out there that do insane shit

im prolly gonna do inferno with like 99range 94mage and max gear

tbow etc

[proven ocean]

lvl 35 inferno

lmao

25hp account

[hollow temple]

yea those guys do crazy manips

tick eating n shit

that inferno prolly took them 12 hours or even days

since u can log out between waves

[proven ocean]

look at his stats

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[proven ocean]

skill issue i suppose

need 47 magic apparently and 1 defence

thats the new requirement

[hollow temple]

yeah gl with that man

[proven ocean]

colosseum seems ez too

lvl 37 guy did it

[hollow temple]

[proven ocean]

he could've done it with lower stats maybe ig

so maybe lvl 30 is the requirement

[hollow temple]

It’s funny cuz like

Both of these things take maxed players with full bis hella tries to complete

[proven ocean]

well

prayers are op af

thats why its doable ig

its not like wow

[hollow temple]

Ye

[proven ocean]

if m+ in wow had prayers

we'd be able to do +100 keys

[hollow temple]

[proven ocean]

only gonna deplete on dps timer

[hollow temple]

They also added new pots

So it’s a bit easier now to do inferno

Than it used to be

[plucky chasm]

@proven ocean bro waht is your opinion about PTR rn? (i know we will ger many many tunings and stuff) just askin for „now“ waht looks for meta, wahrs ur sugestion?

Just wanna know your true opinion about that

[lime lake]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-its-genuinely-over-seal-sad-seal-breaking-news-gif-243396507301445550

[proven ocean]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CGFMyKNPmqLnN6vSSig1EgZeRWpLdJbeuE8Vd6TV5I0/https/media.tenor.com/A2C31XVF_64AAAPo/its-over-its-genuinely-over.mp4

[hollow temple]

That’s gonna change like 10 times

[proven ocean]

thats my genuine opinion

[hollow temple]

[proven ocean]

well

all rogue specs are in shambles ngl

it scares me to say that sub is looking just as good as the other 2 specs

[plucky chasm]

Oh okay, i hope this will change…

I ask u cause u played ptr alot i guess

[cinder relic]

Ofc they are going to lol

[rancid portal]

@frail veldt thanks for the tip on the spell queue window, I just changed to 350 to give (I don't remember when I changed it before but I had 250, probably when playing mage) and made a big change. I did at least 350k dps overall extra on a key. Either is that or I just got better lol.

[brisk canopy]

Ross you still excited about shiv progressing Deathstalker’s Mark?

[proven ocean]

yeah it will

[plucky chasm]

🙏🏽❤️

[proven ocean]

rogue is looking very bad but i think its obvious enough for us to get tunings

[hollow temple]

Happens literally every PTR

[plucky chasm]

I still w8 to get into our new flat with my girl, so i can finally build my setup and start gaming WoW with my first and new Rogue 😩😩😩 lost the whole s2 in tww…

[proven ocean]

last ptr sub was very op then

[hollow temple]

Yh

[plucky chasm]

Yy i remember your streams, i saw you first time there on last Ptr

[hollow temple]

Either stuff is op and gets nerfed

[proven ocean]

it got nerfed and then it became the worst spec in the game

[hollow temple]

Or stuff is bad and gets buffed

[plucky chasm]

@hollow temple yy its the same we now bro, i just wanna know waht ross thinking about that. Cause he told things like Enh looks crazy. Mage aswell with the Hyperthermia 15 sek or something LOL

[frail veldt]

Great to hear glad it helped! Probably a mixture of both haha

[plucky chasm]

Imagine really they would Finally design ONE TIME ROGUE PERFECTLY

[hollow temple]

Ye I’m just saying that dmg on PTR is rarely a thing worth worrying about

Like

90% of the time things will be pretty balanced by week 2 of the season

[true cedar]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[gaunt phoenix]

they wiped ptr characters?

whyy

[proven ocean]

they did it 2 days ago because they had difficulties with fixing the servers and satuff

so all new ptr chars got deleted, old ones still there

probably a rollback

or something

they fucked up something bigtime i think thats why

[gaunt phoenix]

cool game

[plucky chasm]

xD

[celest hearth]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[frail veldt]

Only time you should worry is if you're doing too much DPS

[hollow temple]

[mighty pivot]

the real question is why there is an npc selling corruption head enchants on ptr when they are inactive

[proven ocean]

@hollow temple man

why is this too much

60 runecrafting whoever added that requirement is legit a psychopath

[hollow temple]

U can get RC passively now

[proven ocean]

how?

[hollow temple]

From the best melee training method

[proven ocean]

what

wtf how

??

[hollow temple]

Sulphur Naguas

[proven ocean]

im missing alot of trhings man

i need to see those new methods

[hollow temple]

They drop an item that u turn in for free RC exp

[proven ocean]

passive RC sounds crazy top me ngl

[hollow temple]

And they are 120k/hr melee exp

[proven ocean]

its better than nmz btw?

[hollow temple]

It’s like

Basically as good as nmz, a bit less afk

[proven ocean]

less afk

thats craz

[hollow temple]

Like nmz with full dharoks is better

[proven ocean]

is it only strength btw

[hollow temple]

But

[proven ocean]

or also defenceo nly and atk only?

[hollow temple]

Nah

[proven ocean]

those weapons

[hollow temple]

Atk str def

[proven ocean]

seperate?

can train all

or

[hollow temple]

U can do 1 at a time

[proven ocean]

nice

ok

ok this got me excited

no cappi

[hollow temple]

You have to do the perilous moons quest

To get to them and be able to turn in the RC exp item

Also you can do tears of guthix once a week

For a nice xp drop into your lowest skill

[proven ocean]

oh wow i only need 20 hunting then

thats rly good

ngl

i will do it ig

[hollow temple]

I have never trained RC and I have like 57 so far

[proven ocean]

rly?

i got 47 natty

wtf

[hollow temple]

Ye

I got it all from quest, tears of guthix, and training at Naguas

I won’t have to train it to get 60 either

But for hunter I do birdhouse runs a couple times a day

[covert kestrel]

Am I tripping or is this not outlaw

[hollow temple]

Everything is so fast n ez these days if u do get back into it you’ll be fine

[hollow temple]

[torpid fiber]

dw outlaw players have adhd I think it's important that it's a safe space for going off topic

[hybrid crown]

I just spent 20 minutes restoring my runescape account to see if I could get this yet

[gaunt phoenix]

nice

[hybrid crown]

I remember why I stopped playing rs3 lol

[hollow temple]

Rs3 is so bad

They’re finally trying to change it

Doing some experiments over the next few months of removing the mtx n shit

[proven ocean]

@hollow temple omg

i just tried pressing 6 to see what gear im wearing and it didnt work

made me remember i had keybinds for each tab

[frail gale]

anyone have a smaple talent build for ptr i can try out?

[hollow temple]

iirc its just regular build but swap SoH for LD

[hollow temple]

ye u can change them too

[proven ocean]

man i legit forgot everything about osrs

looking at my bank i legit have no idea what anything does

[hollow temple]

lmao

might want to watch some guides n stuff

there's hella information out there for like every little thing

also the osrs wiki is op

[frail gale]

not taking killing spree?

I'm a sub player, i have no idea what i'm doing LOL

[hollow temple]

ye you take ks

[celest hearth]

guys

[hollow temple]

there's diff builds in the #outlaw-faq

[celest hearth]

how buns is it to not take KS

[frail gale]

ohn sick ty

[hollow temple]

for trickster? very

[celest hearth]

is there a close buiild without KS?

i miss the s1 KIR

[gaunt phoenix]

wait until august

[celest hearth]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[celest hearth]

do we have something that shows the diff?

sorry i just got back into wow like an hour ago

i forgot where all this stuff was

i see the builds in the FAQ but nothing comparing

[sullen walrus]

where i can buy this "Head" dummy what use zac on the beginning of the dungeon?

[gaunt phoenix]

playing trickster without KS is a similar loss

[wintry solar]

Does mobile raidbots not work for anyone else?

Trying to run a sim but nothing is loading

[proven ocean]

is that ptr too

[hollow temple]

Idk which one you’re talking about

[proven ocean]

notrickz look

[gaunt phoenix]

No

[hollow temple]

Might have to google it or check wowhead

[proven ocean]

cool colors or

[hollow temple]

Sure

[proven ocean]

im thinking of getting the colleseum themed ish one

[hollow temple]

I like the hallowed sepulcher one

[proven ocean]

man idk what to do rn im lost

[hollow temple]

All I have is the original color tho

[proven ocean]

what should i work on first

[hollow temple]

Quests imo

You can kinda do w/e you want tho

That’s the beauty of it tbh

Learn how to do tree runs for ur farming or somethin

[proven ocean]

i cant catch these fkin butterflies and the guide says 12-20 @hollow temple

wtf is this shit guide

[hollow temple]

you need a butterfly net

[plucky sonnet]

you need a net

[vivid vessel]

roooooossss

[hollow temple]

buy a net and equip it

and buy a few jars

[proven ocean]

oh i need a fucking butterfly net

this guy didnt even say

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[gaunt phoenix]

@proven ocean @vivid vessel it is very much worth to cancel killing spree

[proven ocean]

nice

[vivid vessel]

why didnt it show a gain pressing it at lower cp

it would essentially be the same

wouldnt it

[proven ocean]

ya

[vivid vessel]

or better

[wintry solar]

Is this canceling at max cp?

[vivid vessel]

well i guess it just happens less idk ?

[proven ocean]

maybe @vivid vessel

[vivid vessel]

on ptr im very easely pressing ks at 5 cp

a lot

[proven ocean]

i think its situational tbh

if u need the cp u keep it

if u dont u dont cancel

[vivid vessel]

no i mean

[proven ocean]

if u dont u cancel*

[vivid vessel]

you alwayus cancel at max cp

of course

[proven ocean]

yeah ofc

[vivid vessel]

thats not what i mean

i just mean pressing ks at 5/6 cp is enough to get full cp back

[quiet ore]

[fathom bramble]

yeah if you are canceling it anyway then why would you want to spend extra CP for duration that you are canceling

[tender wedge]

jank

[fathom bramble]

unless it's just restless blades value really putting in work

[vivid vessel]

idk maybe it just doesnt happen enough in sims ?

confusion a bit for me

cause it wasnt really showing a real gain

[fathom bramble]

I mean if you make 2 finish conditions how often does it actually use the 5cp one

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix you still have the sim

[gaunt phoenix]

hold on brother

[vivid vessel]

or is it live now

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah koji did it now

[vivid vessel]

nice

[gaunt phoenix]

idk https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wQB7pDYQ6ApbpMG4GhyK9E

it does happen twice

[vivid vessel]

thats

hm

try 1 fth tho

but ye idk

that does seem weird to me

doesnt it ?

[hollow portal]

LOL

[gaunt phoenix]

i guess?

i mean 5cp KS puts you at 6cp

instead of 7cp

[hollow portal]

If it's worth canceling it's because it's a MRD design.

[vivid vessel]

ye but

ye i guess

idk

such an easy fix tho

idk how

this happened

like

did they not calculate

how much cp it would give us

[gaunt phoenix]

what is MRD

[vivid vessel]

master rancid dogpoop

[torpid fiber]

I kinda like the idea someone suggested (idr who) of "when you hit max cp it instantly ends and shoots all the remaining damage at once"

[hollow portal]

yes

[vivid vessel]

ok but why can it go over tho

like ?

ok guys

lets increase duration

and give 1 cp per tick

yes

i do math

oh hm

we overcap 5 cp everytime

yes yes

sounds good

send it

[wintry solar]

Maybe they're hinting a return to anticipation >.>

[fossil lintel]

Cancelling it is bis? Good cause it feels better as well

[torpid fiber]

But also I think it's obviously a problem that we will be cancelling KS because that's unintuitive and weird gameplay ngl

[vivid vessel]

i would rather we cancel atg least it doesnt last 5 fucking min

[fossil lintel]

It should just finish and go all the remaining damage when you reach max cp

[vivid vessel]

bro when you supercharge ks

???

that shit

is crazy man