outlaw

[covert kestrel]

Outlaw has like no bindings so it shouldn't be an issue to just have a trinket bound

[rough flame]

yea seems like the most elegant solution

[gaunt phoenix]

i have to click all these to see they are sfw

[proven ocean]

Nobody sends nsfw here anyway tho

[leaden folio]

lmao

zeross just link it on #off-topic zempai will send you some too

[proven ocean]

True but fuck off topic or

Outlaw = off topic

[leaden folio]

outlaw =

one

word

per

message

[proven ocean]

T

R

U

E

[rancid portal]

Having high ms affects more when playing a high apm spec like outlaw right?

[jolly geyser]

want me to send some for old times sake?

[gaunt phoenix]

[terse beacon]

iLvl 646 outlaw and I still can’t beat Zekvir t8. What am I doing wrong? 😭
I just want the quest out of my log.

[jolly geyser]

abandon it

[sick monolith]

Dont delve

[terse beacon]

I like delves, just not this one.

[wanton parcel]

How’s new killing spree looking?

[shy meteor]

Current KS? Then No
Ptr KS? Yes i think so

[hybrid crown]

You can cloak the KS dot after but that's it

Does new KS still do the immune with dot after 🤔

[hollow breach]

my POV after knowing the boss will do frontal in mechagon but still risked it with KS

[shy meteor]

U have to plan around it, so moving into a "safe Spot" when U Land or KS with Low CP so it Takes less time

[jolly geyser]

satyrs spaulders

[shy meteor]

No because Ur Not jumping around anymore and u can move, grappling Hook and use Defensive while IT channels

[hybrid crown]

Oh that's sick

[keen belfry]

cuarrent KS was genuinely a good DR for targetted stuff right?

DR may be wrong word

[shy meteor]

I think Ur slowed by 20% or smth but i think U can cancel the Channel with another ability

[keen belfry]

but im sure healer would rather have 3% dot than whatever u get hit for on bosses like demo duo

[shy meteor]

If U want to See it that way, but IT also depends on how much Ur ticking because some healers Deal with dots better than Others

[grim spear]

Yes, the current ks is a decent defensive, but the problem is that its window is very short and not very controllable.

[frank finch]

raid testing starts now? or in 1 hr

[shy meteor]

Thats what he said, U can also Dodge swirlys with it, but since its random and nothing U can Control its more Like Ur screaming
"Jesus Take the wheel"

[hybrid crown]

I often get to pair it with that echo of carnage in top and I swear it does 0 damage when you KS it lol

The stagger is nice

We are so tanky already I can take it or leave it

[crisp condor]

Just seen Dimensius has a 200% damage amp for 15s. God I love not having real cooldowns

[hybrid crown]

On use dmg trinkets lol

[frank finch]

vexie dmg amp kinda goated

room to use 2 on use

[sick monolith]

Fuck 💀 my guild is going to make me play sub if thats the case

kill me now

[hybrid crown]

Maybe it also has some cleave

[crisp condor]

It's a one time only amp I believe

[thorn river]

we expecting some rogue chances in ptr still ?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah

[thorn river]

hope we be eating good then 😄

[dawn talon]

please let the damage amp be at like 2:40 or something

so nobody has cds

and we get to benefit

[late swallow]

so sick how sub lost it's 1.5 niche

[dawn talon]

and its ability to move damage

[late swallow]

sin pissboys with 90 sec option

[dawn talon]

id rather be waterboarded than have to prog a 300 pull fight on sin i cant lie

[lime lake]

good thing fatebound is still fucking terrible

[dawn talon]

imagine 300 pulls of sin and you have to play around bugged mark

nightmare

[lime lake]

ive genuinely never had mark bug in raid a single time this tier

in m+ it definitely happens though

[keen belfry]

guys

200% dmg amp + agi spymasters trinket

sub rogue will literally drop a nuke

on that amp

[dawn talon]

how do so many wow players type so slow btw

we need to do a survey on time spent playing mobas

vs wpm

[keen belfry]

nah but like my typing no ?

[lime lake]

moba players need high wpm to yell slurs

[hybrid crown]

Doesn't a mob have to die for that op mastery trink

[lime lake]

thats not a fair comparison

[dawn talon]

ive actually

[hybrid crown]

Or is there another trinket

[dawn talon]

typed to people

mid play

[lime lake]

different trinket

[hybrid crown]

O

[lime lake]

also they dont need to die, it just stacks faster with deaths

[dawn talon]

i watched my sej miss q flash

and typed 'go rope' while my camille e was still flying to wall

highlight of my league career imo

[lime lake]

lmfao

[tepid turtle]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean

[late swallow]

holy

is this a ranking run?

[vivid vessel]

r1 by 1 min

20

[late swallow]

[vivid vessel]

a few 21s up tho

[late swallow]

insane work ggs

[late swallow]

had to scroll so far down to find ross' group

[vivid vessel]

[median lance]

Wait a sec .. the tier set chest is reused

[proven ocean]

Not bad bro

[vivid vessel]

bro said not bad

r1 by 1 min

[proven ocean]

thats a compliment

[vivid vessel]

not bad

[proven ocean]

Cuh

[old python]

question as it's really hard for me to grasp

started playing KIR since i hit 11k haste

in guides, it says to roll again after KIR to get the remaining buffs, but when i do that, it rerolls multiple of the allegedly locked in buffs and i end up with less than 5 active

what am i doing wrong?

worth mentioning i'm hitting KIR when i get a 5 buff from roll the bones only

[pliant wave]

Is PTR server down?

[cursive sundial]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[keen belfry]

why was lotus so ahead

[shy sandal]

forget about it cuh

[gaunt phoenix]

your buffs are locked in after KIR but only once (sometimes twice)

like

with the weakaura

I just pressed KIR on a 5 buff, so all the buffs are yellow, they are locked in

now i rolled, RTB happened to pick buffs that i already have, GM BT, now they are no longer locked in

[old python]

ohhh

[gaunt phoenix]

but the yellow buffs are still locked in for the next roll

[old python]

so i can basically lose all my KIR if i am "lucky" enough to get a 5 roll back to back?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[old python]

righttt

i understand it now

[gaunt phoenix]

that's why you like

if you roll a natural 5 buff, and then press KIR, they become 60 seconds right

you don't roll immediately

you wait until they approach 40s remaining or so

[old python]

so i don't lose value

okay i get it, guides say to press rtb again right after kir which was rly weird

[gaunt phoenix]

So you dont munch 20 seconds off your buffs if you 5 buff again

okay so

if you KIR a 4 buff

then you DO roll immediately

but if you KIR a natural 5 you wait

if you KIR a 4 buff, chances are you will gain net buff duration by rolling asap

[old python]

can I KIR buffs that i get through the thing that randomly gives me buff?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah

[old python]

oh okay

[gaunt phoenix]

you're supposed to KIR at 4 buffs

like 2 normal buffs + a bunch of rando buffs

usually

[old python]

ahh and then rtb to get as close to 6 buffs as i can

i think i understand

[gaunt phoenix]

it's a mix of like, rtb being worth to gain supercharger, and sometimes you get extra buffs you didnt have

Sometimes you gain nothing but you at least got supercharger

[old python]

do i play around supercharger at all? i don't understand exactly how it works so i kinda ignored it so far

[gaunt phoenix]

No you dont really

it just means, when you press rtb, your next 2 finishers are treated as +3cps

[old python]

it consumes them even if i use all combo points, not only the highlighted ones, right?

[gaunt phoenix]

So if you finish at 7cp it becomes 10cp really

Yeah

[old python]

gotchaaa

one last question

11k haste - enough for KIR?

or should i stick with HO still?

[gaunt phoenix]

That's 16.66% haste i think

It's not quite enough

KIR wants 19%, so it becomes 25% after alacrity bonus

[old python]

with a flask mayhaps?

i'm at 20% with flask

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah you can flask

[old python]

cool nice

thanks a lot

[gaunt phoenix]

[vivid vessel]

phys comp better ?

[proven ocean]

not 21

= worse

[vivid vessel]

we do 21 next its ok cuh

[proven ocean]

zac do u like the new dungeon

or

[vivid vessel]

hm

i need to do it a bit mroe

i didnt really get what you said

[proven ocean]

i hate it personally

[vivid vessel]

regarding bad melee dungeon

[proven ocean]

nah not bad melee dungeon

[vivid vessel]

is it just the jumpers ?

[proven ocean]

i ddint say that

ah

new dung'

ye

its thhose jumpers

and 1st boss is managable but adds are far

so thats bad for melee's

the intermission i mean

[vivid vessel]

nah they get close to melee tho

[proven ocean]

jumpers are bad, the lizard that jumps in africa to cast a lazer is bad

[vivid vessel]

i think its a ring angle kinda

[proven ocean]

no they dont zac

well

ring sure but

i mean

[vivid vessel]

ok well

i can see your pov

[proven ocean]

they're hard to manage zac

ranged atk them insta

[vivid vessel]

from assa pov

zeross

but i can cleave them as outalw

[proven ocean]

no its not assa tho that i mean zac

[vivid vessel]

but ye i can see what you mean

[proven ocean]

cuz i genuinely think sin is way better on that boss

than outlaw

its not that zac

[vivid vessel]

yeye maybe

[proven ocean]

i mean like

its just a bad melee boss imo

cuz ranged can atk both sides at once

u feel me?

the jumping guys are kinda bad too

idk

the lizard guy is the worst too

but i know what'll fix that zac

in melee we just stack in healing rain

and afk there

[vivid vessel]

ye i guess

[proven ocean]

we dont spread much

btw zac

i heard goodd stuff about rsham

might be a rsham season for real this time

like

big time

but idk it was greg talking about it so

i think hes not a rsham main

at all but ye

[vivid vessel]

he is a enhance main no ?

[proven ocean]

isnt greg a healer too

or who's the healer guy

in NA

[vivid vessel]

i dont think so

[proven ocean]

maybe its someone else then

forgot his name

yeah it was greg @vivid vessel

healing

he plays healer too

[vivid vessel]

hm

[proven ocean]

he heals and dps 21 keys

i wasnt sure so i asked asuna

so ye

@vivid vessel zac

wanna play mop classic when its released? the gold mode CM sets may go to retail it seems like

the rogue one is so cool

mage, druid etc

[dense bolt]

lemme see

how it looks

ross

[proven ocean]

its like

chinese themed

but

not bad looking at all

its super nice imo

[vivid vessel]

no

[dense bolt]

what does that even mean

[sudden fulcrum]

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1227072.jpg

[proven ocean]

ye this

dragon themed kinda

[sudden flicker]

whats our pre key shenanigans looking like, we just raw doggin it?

[gaunt phoenix]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[sudden flicker]

nut

[proven ocean]

nut indeed

[coral onyx]

no tricks make the tank work

[proven ocean]

he wont work

ur the one whos gonna die

[keen belfry]

i am so hungry

[sudden fulcrum]

just use recuperate

[keen belfry]

im gonna make a burger

rilled onion

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-cat-eating-burger-gif-27559411

[sudden fulcrum]

[craggy barn]

dont let ross eat ur burger

[late swallow]

ross eats his burgers with a fork and knife

true and real btw

[dawn talon]

i be eating my burgers in the most carnal way bro

[sudden fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/mukbang-food-mukbang-gifs-asmr-mukbang-korean-food-gif-22573422

[bright crane]

Unironically same awk…

[proven ocean]

zac

[waxen acorn]

Burgers are great

[vivid vessel]

wtf

[late swallow]

[vivid vessel]

share ?

this looks crazy

[waxen acorn]

Come over I got you

[vivid vessel]

[mighty pivot]

can I have a... uuuuh

[civic zephyr]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[waxen acorn]

getting into grilling and cooking has been a disaster for my wallet

[civic zephyr]

why does zac use AR before the key pop?

[waxen acorn]

on the bright side it means I always got something good to eat for lunch

[hybrid crown]

Old habits die hard maybe

[civic zephyr]

oh maybe he macros tempered pot w/ AR

[vestal tree]

just got a mythic belt boe...

scam

[hybrid crown]

Oh can you double dip on tempered pots

[waxen acorn]

ye

Cd resets on key start and you keep the buff

[civic zephyr]

wdym by double dipping

[chrome iris]

I'm trying to find info on this, but seem to be too dumb to google it. Are there any items I can buy with cartel chips which will give me an edge in 11.2? As in: I won't take them off anytime soon into 11.2?

[civic zephyr]

oh but they dont stack right?

just able to use em back to back

?

[waxen acorn]

yeah can just back to back

[civic zephyr]

coool ty

[waxen acorn]

not giga useful for all keys

but for some def useful like cinderbrew

[keen belfry]

my burger was good

grilled onion

lettuce

bbq

mmm

toasted bunn

[tender wedge]

Not really for outlaw. House of Cards is going to last a long time for the other 2 specs though

[chrome iris]

Great, so I'll just buy for short time gain then. Thanks!

Eye's also not worth it?

[tender wedge]

Eye is funny imo because you won’t really get much use out of it until you’re almost killing bosses

Like in prog you’ll die a lot before you get the value

[rough flame]

!kir

[ornate heath]

KIR build compared to HO:

• doesn't use ambush, uses the same builder priority inside and outside of stealth
• is more cp efficient with pistol shot usage (see faq)
• has to use KIR itself as soon as you hit 4 buffs from RTB/CTO
• has an additional reroll logic after pressing KIR (see faq)
• is more punishing if you mess up builder priority at a given moment
• needs 19% haste from rating to reach 25% during adrenaline rush after alacrity
• KIR 1 FTH really likes trickster optimizations, like prioritizing SS when unseen blades are guaranteed (see faq)

[chrome iris]

11.2 fights are meant to last like 8 minutes or something, but sims say that's not even worth it anyway

[tender wedge]

Yeah but you won’t be wiping at 7.50 all the time

Idk I just feel like eye has too many situational requirements and outlaw at least is one of the hardest specs to make it work on

[chrome iris]

I mean.... eye's not too situational, it's equip and forget basically

[fallen knot]

i forgor does elusiveness reduce the damage by 48% or 60% if i use feint and evasion?

[mint crater]

Hello guys, what is a good haste to play HO?

[gaunt phoenix]

around 14-18%

[mint crater]

a good number

@gaunt phoenix thx

[keen belfry]

im not sure

[fallen knot]

solo?

[mighty pivot]

it will reduce it to 48% 100 * 0.8 * 0.6

[fallen knot]

evasion+feint is it 48% or 60%

[granite merlin]

Are builds going to be the same going into season 3?

[violet ferry]

definitely maybe

[granite merlin]

Ok I wanna go into ptr and learn outlaw on dummies

[mighty pivot]

some builds will go for Loaded Dice instead of Sleight of Hand

[covert kestrel]

i wouldnt

better to learn on the tried and true stuff rn cause a lot can change on ptr,

[granite merlin]

How will I learn outlaw before patch 😦

lol ks makes me vomit after about three of them

Gives me motion sickness why I changed to assassin

[mighty pivot]

PTR changes are far from finalised

so you might waste your time

the main loop won't change, but some details in the rotation can change based on what they do with KS and tier

[late swallow]

i think the PTR changes are locked in?

[lime lake]

pretty sure there are no more updates coming

way too late in the dev cycle for that

[late swallow]

that's why they cancelled raid testing

they know everything is really good and balanced and cool

current build is a release candidate

[covert kestrel]

realz is off chilling on a beach in tahiti for the next three months, having a killing spree go off in his pants

[mighty pivot]

leaks say the might surprise release it next week already

[late swallow]

i hear they collabed with luigi mangione on the new KS art

[silk sphinx]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[mighty pivot]

realz asked AI to redesign KS

[covert kestrel]

realz is AI

and his specialty is jorkin it

[mighty pivot]

are you sure? maybe you should ask

[sullen narwhal]

They just needed to reduce the channel a bit, i would have also suggested to make KS lock the duration of subterfuge for the entire channel, instead we get 3 min ks.

Do something good, wipe it away a second later with a single bad change, im tired of this fucking bullshit

They just can't help themselves

[royal bane]

Hello, wowanalyzer said it's not up to date, is it still a good way to review his log ? It seems pretty complete

[sullen narwhal]

If they do something good, it must be ruined by stupid shit later because it can't be "too good" It must be "balanced" for every good change we get a bad one

Or a few good changes and then one really bad change

[mighty pivot]

it's quite ok for HO at least, especially for simple mistakes. Take it with a grain of salt though

[plucky chasm]

Do you guys think, blizzard someday will change talent tree again? Maybe without hero talents etc. I mean i saw in the past they had different of systems

[lone spear]

100%

[mighty pivot]

it is up to date for the priorities

[lone spear]

they basically said they will be revisiting all these systems after last titan

because there will for sure be bloat

[royal bane]

Alright ty, Is there a way to ask for log review on the discord or a specific channel ?

[plucky chasm]

So u guess we could became new system in next expansion ?

[lone spear]

most likely

[covert kestrel]

do a !log

[sullen narwhal]

I think they'll keep the talent system perfect it, and after the last titan they will go back to adding borrowed power systems each expansion while keeping the talents and perfecting them overtime

[plucky chasm]

Nice 🙂

[sudden lava]

What's worth getting with these dinar?

[covert kestrel]

heroic capo knuckles and any mythic trinkets from dungeons you dont have

[sudden lava]

I'm looking at Archon and I can just farm most of this pretty easily. Is the magnet trinket that good that I should spend dinar on it?

[lone spear]

ion did a talk recently at a game convention where he discussed the value of novelty, i.e. just having something new even if the old thing is good

people want exciting stuff

[sullen narwhal]

At least that's what i would do

If i had to choose

[sudden lava]

oh knuckles is a great idea actually thanks

[royal bane]

!log

[jovial cosmos]

I used my first dinar on mythic capo and I have a thug hotline already. Should I be buying a pacemaker and cart whistle for keys with my last two ? I don’t have access to any other raid items

[mighty pivot]

yes they are both good trinkets

[jovial cosmos]

I saw that Zac plays hoc and was wondering if there was some world where you wear an on use like signet for 19+ keys

[ripe ibex]

yeah you could

id sim it

cause for me remnant of darkness sims higher than all of those

[waxen acorn]

it being 3m didn't sound entirely like something terrible, I don't think adding a channel into the game and willingly wanting to cancel it early is ever a good thing

and from my understanding the damage bump it got alongside the CD increase pushed it in the direction of not wanting to cancel it

[jovial cosmos]

Thanks ! I’m still gearing so it’s awk to sim some stuff so early and I don’t wanna get the wrong thing. My main is 3900 but I wanna play some outlaw for fun

[sullen narwhal]

I literally don't care, they could have increased the damage by 100% that's not what interests me, what bothers me are mechanics, gameplay, rotation

[keen belfry]

sup guys awang here

[ripe ibex]

welcome to my outlaw guide

[waxen acorn]

Then please explain what makes it bad for those things

[spring bay]

If I didn’t want to deal with having to swap weapons during keys, what would be the best main/offhand combo

[ripe ibex]

still use the nightfall weapon

[keen belfry]

today we will going over my favorite spec, outlaw rogue! outlaw is a builder/spender spec that, depending on your build, requires very efficient combo point generation. lets get into the basics!

[ripe ibex]

holy

chills

[keen belfry]

ty

[sullen narwhal]

3 min KS damaged the interaction with trickster, it also feels bad because right now ks has actual mechanics attached to it, like refunding combo points, increasing the cd feels pretty awful considering this.

[strange sky]

is it stupid to use killing spree on trash or am i doing something wrong. I feel like im just dying due to trash mechanics or stuff on the ground :/

[keen belfry]

use on cd but safely 🙂

big learning curve

[mighty pivot]

that's part of outlaw's fantasy

[sullen narwhal]

What was asked was to reduce the channel, i also suggested to make KS lock subterfuge duration for it's channel, so you would use it in stealth window, wasting less cdr and just overall feeling pretty great, instead what did they do? 3 min cd.

Wtf is this shit?

[ripe ibex]

its the price you have to pay for doing the most damage of any spec...

[sullen narwhal]

Finally Ks started to feel good to use, and then they ruined it

[mighty pivot]

KS doesn't need to pause subterfuge

[sullen narwhal]

They just can't help themselves

[waxen acorn]

Idk I mean they could easily compensate the interaction with Trickster elsewhere

or they could just lower the Cd a little bit

[sullen narwhal]

As usual i get contrarians, was the same thing for BF generating combo points, people said it's not necessary, but when it happened i didn't see a single soul complain about it

Please just stop

[waxen acorn]

people have different opinions 🙂

that's fine

[mighty pivot]

people have different opinions?

[sullen narwhal]

Yea, "opinions"

Not all opinions are equal though

That's about it

[keen belfry]

😮

[mighty pivot]

I assume yours are more correct

[sullen narwhal]

Yes

[mighty pivot]

ok sweetheart

[sullen narwhal]

Thanks

[keen belfry]

i actually respect how cooked @sullen narwhal is rn

[waxen acorn]

something something opinions are like assholes, we all have them and they all stink

[sullen narwhal]

That's just midwit cope, people think they can just throw a one liner and they think they wrote some kind of universal truth.

[waxen acorn]

we're one week into PTR

I just don't think it's worth dooming about

[sudden fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/everyone-is-stupid-except-me-gif-24774868

reunoir right now

[sullen narwhal]

I was referring to your "pearl of wisdom"

[keen belfry]

self righteous reunoir rn

go play ret bro

[sullen narwhal]

Yep

[keen belfry]

wrong spec man

[waxen acorn]

Except when there are 20 different ways to achieve a goal through tuning I just don't see how you can actually say your opinion on how to do it is more correct than another

[sullen narwhal]

How many times in a row do i have to be right before people start believing me i wonder

One day

[waxen acorn]

I don't know you

I don't know your track record

[keen belfry]

the way you phrase things inherently makes anyone want to not listen to you

i think your complains about KS are valid

[sullen narwhal]

Ok

[ripe ibex]

hahah

[keen belfry]

but the way u speak makes me want to shit in a bowl and give it you for lunch

[waxen acorn]

And even if I did, even if you were correct 8/8 times in the past that doesn't mean you are correct in the future

[keen belfry]

as a friend

noah fence @sullen narwhal

and man my shits have been bad lately

[mighty pivot]

need more fibre!

[keen belfry]

less dairy

im dairy sensitive

[ripe ibex]

that guy plays ho dont listen to him

[mighty pivot]

aren't there pills that help with that

with intolerance

[pallid wraith]

Learning this spec giving me carpal tunnel. any suggestions?

[keen belfry]

"oops no 5 buff let me hit reroll 🤓" @sullen narwhal rn

[daring oxide]

What we using on the belt now?

[keen belfry]

i use vers for vibes

little worse than it giving you clit

[mighty pivot]

crit sims highest usually but vers was close

[keen belfry]

crit*

my bad for typo guys

[mighty pivot]

it would be broken OP if it was clit

[pseudo vale]

Noone could find it thou

[keen belfry]

yeah doesnt exist

[ripe ibex]

its not real

[keen belfry]

sometimes i think im the clit cause i cant find myself

outlaw chat weird today

[mighty pivot]

"today"

[tender wedge]

Late season chats across all
channels have been wild

[keen belfry]

i am not focused at work i keep looking at my other monitor (its discord)

[mighty pivot]

isn't assa chat wild any day of the season?

[red zinc]

girl asked do i want top nah i want a priory

[keen belfry]

you know the line yess

[sudden fulcrum]

ToP is way too fucking long

[keen belfry]

its never long enough 💯

[ripe ibex]

and whos fault is that

[red zinc]

she twist on my appendage till i echo into the void

[thorny reef]

is bubbling wax still good on st?

[red zinc]

equal

as soon as a second target gets added its worse

and theres barely any ST content this tier so

wouldnt recommend it

[thorny reef]

ok so really no reason to farm them anymore

[red zinc]

naw

[thorny reef]

ty ❤️

[ripe ibex]

@keen belfry keys?

https://i.imgur.com/kGPSgLQ.jpeg

[red zinc]

i think i finally annoyed my guild enough that they wont let me back in the raid anymore

[fluid meadow]

yo what the hell, i was with a mage in a key, he has the same no procc issue with belt using vers proc but zero proc during whole dung

[red zinc]

yeah if he died thats prob why

just breaks it sometimes

charged crystal breaks on its own though

[blazing pulsar]

so was gonna mess around with outlaw in keys for the rest of the season, I'm going with HO since my haste is trash atm. Do we really not run deft blades in keys? I loved that instant full cp builder

[sudden fulcrum]

shit is buggy as hell. i heard dying breaks it sometimes

[fluid meadow]

i have a run with charged crystal legit zero procc without dead, mage died after 10 min and no procc until

[thorny reef]

deft maneuvers? the blade flurry cp generator?

[keen belfry]

[blazing pulsar]

sry yeah deft maneuvers

[thorny reef]

ya HO never takes that

i love that talent also

[blazing pulsar]

aw man

[mighty pivot]

HO doesn't feel its absence too much. You get a lot of CP already

[covert kestrel]

A broken clock is right twice a day

[mighty pivot]

no need to engage further

[covert kestrel]

Idk I wasn't going to until he started ego dropping lol

[real yew]

anything changed about the belt? Did they fixed the bug on charged crystal?

[mighty pivot]

no

assume it's broken unless they explicitly mention it in a hotfix. And even then don't believe them immediately

[fallen knot]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[fallen knot]

no not this one silly bot

[limpid kiln]

So I've a new/returning player, last time I played was in Shadowlands. Currently 651 iLvl so I'm looking at doing higher tier raids and M+ pretty soon. I've been doing a Fatebound build but it looks like Trickster is basically defacto. How easy is it to swap over to Trickster//how to best deal w/ Killing Spree tp during dungeons?

ugh and stupid easy to google question but might as well ask rn, what iLvl does Normal//Heroic raid drop? Considering running some today but maybe I'm already bound to doing Mythic raids from here on out

[sudden fulcrum]

you can find that second one in your adventure guide

[fading hatch]

You can cloak off the killing spree dot in a pinch. You can press in low combo points so its faster if its sketchy situation. Be prepared to die and get mad

[limpid kiln]

Cloak of Shadows or do you mean Vanish

[late swallow]

does anyone actually know what that phrase means

or do we all use it assuming other people know what it means

be honest now

[limpid kiln]

I do

[late swallow]

[limpid kiln]

Well, a broken clock typically means it isn't functioning i.e stopped. In the 12-hour format this means there are at least 2 moments in the day that it tells the correct time, 99.99% of the time though it's incorrect. Dumbasses are 99.99% of time wrong, however, moments of random clarity can occur albeit rarely

[lime lake]

...did you actually not know what it means or was this another meme

[limpid kiln]

anyway I'm gonna respec and run a droptimizer sim again to see if that changes my BiS recs. Cleave damage is ass w/ Fatebound

[red zinc]

somnius let me see them grippers

[mighty pivot]

uhhhm akchually 12 hours have 43200 seconds so the time of a broken clock is only correct 0.00231481481% of the time

[late swallow]

thank you for clarifying man I really appreciate this

[red zinc]

Too many significant numbers you are losing all your grading points for this one

[mighty pivot]

they are significant for science in this case

[lime lake]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-changing-the-clock-changing-the-time-kitty-cat-cute-gif-17202806

[red zinc]

A broken cock is hard twice a day

type shi

[limpid kiln]

I cant really tell you're being sarcastic or not but either way, you're welcome 🫡

[late swallow]

Gotta pay if you want the uncensored version

[sudden fulcrum]

bro you can't just take out the dogs like that

you're gonna get Whispyr all riled up

[mighty pivot]

@wintry solar

[fading mural]

If my goal is keys only. What should i spend my dinar on. ( Do not have mythic raid loot unlocked for dinar ) Out of hero raid options and myth track dungeon items what would be best?

[strong cargo]

Heroic Capo, and mythic dungeon trinkets. Maybe pacemaker and whistle ?

[lusty jungle]

when is the best time to use magnet trinket? ist after certain stacks or after certain ability?

[inland acorn]

On CD, unless you're holding for dmg amp

[lusty jungle]

thanks

[inland acorn]

Damage from magnet is linear, so it doesn't matter if you send it 2 times on 5 stacks or 1 time at 10

[sharp moat]

or remnant, its also really good, sim those 3

[inland acorn]

I would probably get HC capo, mythic spare keys (just pug it, it's 1st boss which falls in 5 minutes) and for last i would sim whatever would be biggest upgrade

[mighty pivot]

take into consideration that spare keys doesn't hit under some circumstances

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean

first boss top

[strong cargo]

Damn Gratz, I see you play TD now, any bad experience with it ?

[vivid vessel]

no

[keen belfry]

im trying to guess what TD is

[sudden fulcrum]

twilight dev

[keen belfry]

gushy too chill

[ripe ibex]

@keen belfry whats the avg uptime of the belt vers proc

in a key

[keen belfry]

probs piss let me check

27

[ripe ibex]

thats pretty bad

damn

[mighty pivot]

it gives a lot of stats though even at lower stacks

[keen belfry]

if i have RP i hate crit so i dont want that thing

[ripe ibex]

its not that bad

even with rp

[junior coral]

what yall doing before a key starts? times included if possible. back from a lay off and i outlaw always has some cool pre key techhh

[neon oasis]

most pre key tech of old is gonezo

[mighty pivot]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[neon oasis]

remember when we used to swap talents

was it loaded dice

kekw

[junior coral]

prekey fuckery lol

i like that

[fading mural]

ty brother

[fading mural]

tyty

[junior coral]

DAH FUCKKK

outlaw is backkk

[frank finch]

what belt u using

[junior coral]

shit feels so good

i was doing so good at my job to lmao...

back to getting no sleep

do we not use deft maneuvers for KIR?

[cinder relic]

Fatebound law feels lit

[wintry solar]

You do

[wintry solar]

Feels what? I just woke up.

[junior coral]

wowhead talent build didnt have it

hmmm

[wintry solar]

That's suspicious

[junior coral]

for m+

o mean

[wintry solar]

I thought it was a default pick for kir but I guess not

Yeah

[cinder relic]

Does it not?

There's like 10 different talent setups on wowhead

1 should feature deft

[junior coral]

i was looking quick, but the top where it links a few it didnt

[torpid fiber]

Part of the issue is also there's so many pages with builds on them, I assume wowhead doesn't give you tools for saying "these two builds on different pages are the same build, update both if I update one"

[random stirrup]

all the kir cleave/m+ builds have deft for me

except keep it rolling trickster cleave for raid

which is correct

[junior coral]

now to find out when you should be using deft as builder again

[cold jewel]

@vivid vessel ay cuh

[timber knoll]

How is fatebound looking in keys on ptr? Still worse than trickster?

[cold jewel]

why do you hold magnet sometimes

[junior coral]

so we never use vanish if AR is on CD and not rolling

[cold jewel]

unless you will overcap charges yes

[junior coral]

im hype

havent played outlaw hard since DF3

new killing spree i can get down with

hopefully S3 is a banger

[craggy barn]

18dfc

[frank finch]

[hardy vault]

So I heard about the fun thing of doing absurd amounts of „healing“ on cauldron, what exactly do you need to do for that?

Just trying to think of something funny to try

[daring yoke]

Is fatebound still not good for m+ in ptr?

[thorny zinc]

killing spree into beam and then cloak it off

[hardy vault]

Thanks

[mighty pivot]

surely the last stagger tick won't bug

[empty elbow]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[wintry solar]

I think it still lacks the aoe trickster has but the gameplay of trickster is a bit rough around the edges atm

[frank finch]

^^

fb feels good tho u get lucky coin every pack now

[glass mortar]

u gotta give up cto to play PC tho

if u wanna play HO anyway

[wintry solar]

Yeah

[glass mortar]

its gunna suck

[wintry solar]

Not worth

[glass mortar]

pc is so strong

but cto feels so good

[wintry solar]

Fr

[glass mortar]

especially if u r back to loaded dice 2 buff rollin

[fossil lintel]

did they break ptr? got an update to it but now the realms say "incompatible"

[sudden fulcrum]

yeah they took it down to buff mages again

[fossil lintel]

typical blizz

[sharp moat]

so, when the first boss in rookery goes flying in the center, can i KS without imploding?

[fossil lintel]

Before or after the beams, yes

During the beams no

[strong sleet]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[junior coral]

oh we not running fatebound as KiR m+?

can some one link me the M+ build with KiR lol i copyed a diff build from wow head that had deft

and this one was fatebound lmao

[hybrid crown]

#outlaw-faq

[fossil lintel]

#1276306860126900315 message

[junior coral]

ah didnt think it would be an alternative build, but THE build lol

[midnight granite]

why would it be the build

its like 10%+ behind

[fossil lintel]

trickster KIR for m+ is not 10% behind 🤔

[junior coral]

ah im trippin then lol

i thought KiR trickster was the best build

[midnight granite]

fatebound

its 10% behind trickster

which is what he was asking

marvin lost

in the sauce

[fossil lintel]

No, he was surprised we don't run fatebound anymore and then asked for the current M+ kir build

You're the one connecting both

[junior coral]

nah

marvin my man

you wrong lol

but all G

[fossil lintel]

You want a fatebound m+ kir build?

[junior coral]

no

i want what ever build is the best lol

outlaw feeling good. so hype

[fossil lintel]

KIR is not the suggested build because it's considered harder to play

and has stricter haste requirements

[junior coral]

i got ya, yea im rolling with the Kir trickster with deft

[brave lagoon]

not necessarily harder but mistakes are a lot more punishing

[junior coral]

23% haste

yea i like KiR better then HO tbh

but KiR as fatebound felt like poop

i like KS and coup

deft is one of my fav talents i think

[languid sapphire]

How important is CPM for playing outlaw? is there any optimal CPM rating i should aim for? Also is hitting around 65-75% uptime on AR on 10+ keys after like week and a half of playing a good progress normal or rather slow one?

[covert kestrel]

aim should be 85-90 at least for adr

you should just always be casting something, but cpm isnt really looked at as a metric

[random stirrup]

holding on instant casts?

[torpid fiber]

i assume they mean ghostly strike/ogcds

so exactly ghostly/adr bc those are the only two that generate combo points

[light patio]

Charged Crystal is doing 1.3%~ of my overall in dungeons, Charged Bolts was doing 5%+ before Tuesday, what are you all using?

i've seen a few people using critical chain as well

[covert kestrel]

684 myth belt

[craggy barn]

crit chain or 684 belt

crystal is unreliable as its still bugged and could just not work after u die

[gaunt phoenix]

Use crit

[light patio]

i just simmed both dslice and st and charged crystal still beats both

[craggy barn]

yes, it sims better, but it isnt reliable due to a bug

[light patio]

well 684 belt simming at 48k downgrade

so im sure critical chain is still better than that haha

critical chain is about 16k below charged crystal

not accounting for any bugs

[frail veldt]

Don't focus on cpm

You can check your logs to make sure your gcds aren't wasted

Like in case you need to adjust your spell queue

But pressing the right button is still very important

You'll just run out of energy pressing the wrong buttons

[rancid portal]

What’s the optimal spell queue window?

[frail veldt]

It's not like casters where they say ABC always be casting

[frail veldt]

There isn't one

It's subjective

[rancid portal]

(Obviously depending on your ms)

[frail veldt]

Entirely

You can play on default

You can def have too low of a spell queue

That's probably the most likely thing wrong with people's spell queue

Cuz too low will just cause constant delays in gcds

[rancid portal]

In my case playing with 160-180 ms isn’t helping either, I should check my spell queue

[gaunt phoenix]

it kinda depends on your button pressing habits

if you feel like you are double casting spells a lot then try changing it

however, the default is 400, and it should be like at least double your ping, and your ping is 180, so there's not much wiggle room there

[frail veldt]

Yeah the symptoms of too high spell queue is when the wrong button goes through, symptoms of too low is delayed gcds

But if you mash hard enough you can override a high spell queue

In theory if you just mash at a frequency faster than your spell queue then the queue doesn't matter

So you should never set your spell queue lower than a frequency you aren't willing to mash or accurately time the gcd at

[gaunt phoenix]

it's MUCH easier to notice the wrong gcd rather than a delayed gcd

[frail veldt]

Agreed

That's why I was saying low spell queue is a more common mistake

A lot of people think they're improving their play by lowering it over and over

But lower spell queue does not reduce latency

In any way whatsoever

Which is a common misconception

In fact it's the opposite

[rancid portal]

Thanks for the information, I will give it a try tomorrow with different spell queue and practicing on dummies. But comparing to a week ago I feel the rotation a lot smoother with more practice

[frail veldt]

Careful practicing in the capital

There's a lot more latency there

A safe spell queue is 150ms above your latency

An aggressive spell queue is 50ms above your latency

Very few people can pull that off

Default is 400ms which for you would be 250ms above your latency

So a safe spell queue for you would be 300

[rancid portal]

I checked a few logs and I think I’m pressing killing spree a lot less than I should so I did a few weakauras to remind it as soon as it is up

Same with coup de grace

[rancid portal]

Yes, I will try with 300-350 and see how it goes

Also pugging doesn’t help a lot, chain pulling + random deaths destroys the spec

[covert kestrel]

Chain pulling is fine as outlaw

We just care about uptime, restealthing is not a big deal

But yeah dying is a big no no

[grim spear]

Yes, lowering the latency tolerance almost certainly leads to GCD loss.

But the benefits are very, very minmax

if there are any at all.

[lucid vale]

Is there a fix to get Charged Crystal working after it stops?

[gaunt phoenix]

No idea

[pearl belfry]

How is outlul looking at in PTR?

[wintry solar]

Good

[kindred forum]

Junkmaestro's Mega Magnet, what about this, do I have to wait until it reaches 30 stacks before using it?

[wintry solar]

On cd

[keen belfry]

lemme in that CB @abstract frost

[cedar kernel]

Outlaw is pretty soild

In ptr

[wintry solar]

Yeah fun

[hollow rampart]

Unequip/Equip belt worked for some

[radiant root]

[next wedge]

should i play the spec i've mained since i started playing the game next patch guys?

just curious

[wintry solar]

No

That's dumb

[stiff hawk]

Go for Ret

okok

Thats too hard

I dont hate you that much

[dusty estuary]

Hello, can someone tell me the macro to cancel killing spree please?

[torpid fiber]

isn't one on live, on ptr i'd assume it's just like /cancelaura Killing Spree

[dusty estuary]

I already tried that one but not working for me

[wintry solar]

Just press a button

Whatever your next finisher is

[dusty estuary]

I dont know if i am doing it wrong or what but not working

[torpid fiber]

are you on ptr? it can only be cancelled on PTR

[dusty estuary]

Oh, so I cant cancel Killing spree on retail? xD

[torpid fiber]

you cannot

[stiff hawk]

No

You have to live with Killing Spree

killing you

[dusty estuary]

hahahahahah okey, thank you

I guess if u want to "fast cancell" u do it with few CP

[stiff hawk]

Yes

[cedar kernel]

[languid sapphire]

yep i felt it a few times, if i missmanage my cd's or don't get to keep my ADR uptime its very easy to get into downtime that kills my rotation and overall dmg in encounter. I think i do pretty well considering i play this spec for like 2 weeks max and i swapped out of arcane so i'm not even used to melee playstyle but i lack in the most decision making part for sure but that will come with experience with class

[light patio]

why does everyone play KIR in high keys? i feel like HO is way better

and HO sims better in dsclice for me too

KIR feels especially bad in keys like TOP w/ downtime

[compact smelt]

prob bc you dont meet the haste requirement

kirs fun as fuck

[light patio]

i sure do

idk how u could consider KIR more fun its literally less buttons

[compact smelt]

???XD

[light patio]

hidden opportunity is so fun

[compact smelt]

ragebait

[inland acorn]

[light patio]

kir feels like playing my classic wow rogue

[compact smelt]

[stiff hawk]

KIR > HO

[compact smelt]

do you know how kir works or

[stiff hawk]

KIR
HO

[light patio]

yea

dslice sim w/ 20% haste

[compact smelt]

that number looks VERY wrong

[inland acorn]

what

is the build you use to sim

link this report please

[light patio]

normal kir build

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nN9FxPLG7feicfMbwn91Ls

[inland acorn]

'normal'

will not be 12% diff

[light patio]

the one everyone uses

o?

[inland acorn]

brother

in christ

[light patio]

tell me im missing something then from my spec

[inland acorn]

you're not even simming

KiR in this report

?????????

[compact smelt]

💀

[light patio]

?

wtf

[inland acorn]

you're simming 2 HO builds

[light patio]

no im not

[inland acorn]

you're simming ST HO vs M+ HO

[light patio]

😮

ok lemme try again

Oooooh it was my last sim it didnt paste the new one i had

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8tfUggg2Am56TXFHvhGRtD

[inland acorn]

[light patio]

HO is still more fun

[hot olive]

lol

[compact smelt]

i assume you just dont understand kir then but valid

[light patio]

what do you even mean by that

[mighty pivot]

[light patio]

if someone thinks one build is more fun than another its because i dont understand it?

maybe i just like pressing ambush? lmfao

[compact smelt]

and thats fine

you do you bro

[light patio]

you're literally being toxic to be toxic

[mighty pivot]

people enjoy different things

[compact smelt]

how am i being toxic..

[light patio]

u DoNT liKe KIR cUz u DoNT unDerrStand

[light patio]

if u have to ask

you are lost

[compact smelt]

aight man

sure

[hot olive]

he said i assume

[wintry solar]

What did I read

More kir vs ho slop?

[dim fern]

finally gathered some outlaw gear, now i just need to learn it

[mighty pivot]

2 out of the 100 total outlaws fighting each other. outlaw on outlaw violence

[wintry solar]

Full send mastery gear. Yolo

[dim fern]

i tried that at first...

haha

main gauche legit solo carry on st

[wintry solar]

[tribal swan]

Hey guys, I have 1 chip to spend, have capo/keys/magnet/signet myth track - everything else sims 0%... should I get Kezan or Pacemaker with my last chip? wanna push a bit higher with my phys comp before season close

[mighty pivot]

kezan requires babysitting to be workable. pacemaker/whistle will be the safe choice, you can sim those two

if you are willing to babysit kezan you can go for that

[tribal swan]

Ok ty 🙂 yeah not sure we would make the most of uptime so good shout

[mighty pivot]

yes it requires constant pulling and that's harder if you have to pug people in your group, plus some dungeons have forced downtime

so it could be the case that it's only a valid choice in some dungeons

the good thing is that trinkets have a very small impact for outlaw anyway

[tribal swan]

yeah true, will prob just get pacemaker then

[light patio]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[vivid vessel]

For like stuffs sometimes

Damage amps

Or you need damage at a specific time

Also I like keeping it for end of packs

Because it's more value to finish a mob that is higher health compared to the rest of the pack

So you finish the pack faster

I think generally it's just better to hold cause you can take a decision on who to send on

It's nice

On xav boss I will keep it for the duel downstairs

In priory first boss I try to keep it to kill the shield when boss leaps, try to press it right when he jumps to kill shield faster

In floodgate momma I keep it for the st phase

And in general I try to use it to finish higher health mobs ye

Dfc first boss I keep for cart

..

[sour vault]

so, for burst

if needed

[vivid vessel]

kinda ye

in the end burst is always more value than sustained

even at a small level like this

[buoyant stratus]

Zac i watched you time 22dfc and it inspired me to pick up outlaw again and i did 2.35m to first boss rookery18 without trash how do you do so much dps...

[vivid vessel]

idk ...

[buoyant stratus]

You're just 5 buff master idk

[stiff hawk]

The C in Zac stand for Cheating

[buoyant stratus]

Sometimes i get into the dry saber slash 5 times in a row rut and my momentum is just gone

Without broadside its cursed xd

[stiff hawk]

Saber Slahs

Bro playing Legion

[wintry solar]

Someone say Saber Slash?

Legion???

WTF IS A BAD OUTLAW RAHHHHHH

[buoyant stratus]

Wait did they change the name?

[stiff hawk]

BRO

[wintry solar]

Sinister Strike

[stiff hawk]

Like 6 Years ago

[buoyant stratus]

I play without bars visible lmfao

[vivid vessel]

ye momentum is big for outlaw

[buoyant stratus]

Ahh when i took a break i c i c

[wintry solar]

I wish I lived in her world ngl

He's doing better than me

His

Idk why it said her

Could be her idk

[buoyant stratus]

Like is it ever worth it to keep an opportunity proc going into crackshot and just build to 5+ with slashes or is that too grief. One time i went into crackshot and 6 of my 8 globals were saberslash and 2 were bte xddd

Ik everything is situational but is that ever an angle or just rip it

[vivid vessel]

no ye i do that

i think its not

like

everytime we tried to sim it

it wasnt really a gain

but it feels better

and its not a loss either

so im just doing it

[buoyant stratus]

I also started ksing at around 3-4cp on some areas for improved mobility/dealing with mechanics is that grief or nah?

[vivid vessel]

nah

i legit low cp ks

all the time

i cba with long ks

everytime i supercharge a ks

[buoyant stratus]

Obviously not grief to live but dps loss is n/a

[vivid vessel]

i die

[buoyant stratus]

Dope

Yeah i dont like 10cp ks lmfao

[vivid vessel]

like you think you are safe

but you arent safe

5s in the future

you always forget something

fuck that man

[buoyant stratus]

Wont matter in 2 months ig but maybe i do some outlaw pushing to see where it takes me

[vivid vessel]

i saw mortiz swapped to outlaw aswell

[buoyant stratus]

Missed resil 20 today 😦

Oh is he full swapped? Ig it makes sense with their comp

[vivid vessel]

ye i think so

[buoyant stratus]

Feral priority is decent enough to cover for lack of assa with them

Which ig you know since you play the same comp haha

Also do you ever coup inside of crackshot? Yknow if youre on 3 stacks, ks is on cd, and its time to mash bte?

Its never a hold angle since theres a possible 20 seconds of waiting for escalating blade I'm sure

[cedar kernel]

zac when can we play together

gm btw

[desert tendon]

Bac when can we play together

Gn btw

[tender wedge]

Is there a sim override for lockenstalk aoe setting?

My sims are suddenly loving it in ST

[cedar kernel]

i mean this could exist

but idk whether ptr is on or not

[tender wedge]

And want to see if it’s usable in keys before hitting that dinar

[desert tendon]

I ve uninstalled so i dont think it Will ever happen

[cedar kernel]

[lilac jungle]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[red zinc]

Your sims only love it because you’re missing haste

Its not a great trinket

[tender wedge]

you're absolutely right

i had to change the flask to haste and it sunk to the bottom of the ocean

[red zinc]

haste tax evasion attempt failed

[tender wedge]

we're onto you mr taxman

[red zinc]

[jolly geyser]

Death and taxes

[tender wedge]

i have 2 dinars to spend and i want loot now but should really wait til vault

[alpine bough]

i have a question, is it more valuable to craft 2 weapon 681 or
to have 1 weap crafted and one Capo's Molten Knuckles on heroic ?
Because i have some Puzzling Cartel Chips .

[covert kestrel]

Crafted main hand and capos heroic off hand should be better but you can sim it

M+ you swap between the nightfall weapon for packs and capos for bosses

[rigid basin]

Hadn't checked up on the ptr thread in a bit, glad to see people bickering there about KS

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235