they convert aldrachi to its own void spec
#outlaw
craggy barn
red zinc
i imagine theyd just bonk aldrachi from havoc
craggy barn
ranged dh throwing glaives
lime lake
if there's even anything im pretty sure its just a recolor lmao
craggy barn
its probably just the NPC's icons
lime lake
im pretty sure this is all just the normal dh cope for third spec
- wowhead being wowhead
and releasing shitty articles
craggy barn
and its green fire for dh
shrug dh discord was pogging out of their mind on the datamining
red zinc
im pretty sure this is all just the normal dh cope for third spec
theres 1 datamined thing
But like
That boss makes zero sense to exist if its not to tease it
lime lake
the only datamined thing ive seen was a void colored meta model
red zinc
we never have optional bosses that feel this shoehorned in
craggy barn
there were a lot of icons datamined
lime lake
which to me indicates that it isnt a new spec
every dh spec has a unique meta model
new spec being havoc but blue would be lmao
craggy barn
including one that has a similar icon ids to spec icons
lime lake
im also not saying there wont be a void dh spec in the future
maybe midnight release
i just entirely doubt theres one coming this patch or the next
craggy barn
yea
glass mortar
do think they should do avoid themed dh spec tho
fits the direction of the theme
makes sense since dh have kinda lost their primary enemy
wuld be cute
craggy barn
it would be another huge thing to add to the expansion box
lime lake
and lets velf be dh
glass mortar
also there isnt really a directly void themed melee spec rn
craggy barn
housing + new spec
craggy barn
velf dh so alliance gets 2 DH specs
glass mortar
they just do black magic/shadowy stuff
ivory talon
hey all started palying outlaw again and havea couple rotation question. In an AOE situation like m+. Where am i supposed to use Blade flurry? stealth>RtB>AR> GS>Crackshot>BF? or Stealth>RtB>AR>BF>GS>CS?
glass mortar
bf before u start fighting the aoe stuff
bright lodge
It's was a good opportunity to make good void sub rogues...
ruby mauve
way before lol
glass mortar
sub already has its theme tho
subs ninja theme is pretty fleshed out imo
and i think people like it? (i sure dont)
ivory talon
so BF>stealth?
glass mortar
yea
BF doesnt tick down while AR is up so
u shouldnt generally need to recast it much
unless ur playing kir and casting it as a generator
ivory talon
seems wasted op for full combo points no?
glass mortar
ok so ur playing kir
u still wanna get it up before the fight tho
then u just use it to generate as a high priority builder (exact rules are in the FaQ)
during the fight if its aoe
crisp condor
!prekey
bright lodge
Stealth>RtB>AR>SnD(repeat)>BF>GS>CS
ornate heathBOT
Pre-key fuckery
RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.- DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not
AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points. - After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
- Before entering the first pack
BF into 
Stealth. - Open on pack with AR into
BtE.
crisp condor
Basically do the last 3 lines there
lime lake
and i think people like it? (i sure dont)
the entire sub channel has been begging since kyveza to be given void animations like her
crisp condor
But use AR whenever to keep BF going forever
glass mortar
yea well dh likes to steal stuff and it arguably makes more sense for them since they are elves that suck up energy types like sponges and then glow with that color
so sub can cope ig
lime lake
is it ever even explained how sub is using shadow magic
glass mortar
no
glass mortar
its just kinda generic ninja theme of secret shadow techniques
crisp condor
Became so one with the darkness the darkness looked back at them
glass mortar
its shadow magic tho not void
(not that it couldnt be void thats just not how they flavored it)
the only void users rn are shadow priests
glass mortar
kinda but not exactly
lime lake
the void is literally refered to as shadow
glass mortar
its like, user friendly void
void stuff is stronger and more corrupting
shadow magic branches out to death and decay magic like dks and warlocks do
but their stuff doesnt come directly from the void
bright lodge
And shadow magic is black powder?
lime lake
im not aware of there ever being stated to be a difference between shadow magic and "void magic"
they just handwave away the uses and never explain it
outside of shadow priest specifically
glass mortar
yea shadow priest lore started out to wide and then they made it very narrow but it didnt really explain all the shadow spells in the game very well
lime lake
they kind of just forgor
glass mortar
also spells in the game have less damage types then the lore does
lime lake
that other people use it
glass mortar
like warlocks and dks use tons of shadow spells
none of it comes from the void tho
in canon
subs who knows, it could
theyve never established where it comes from
honestly void makes more sense for sub then death
imo
crisp condor
Given the whole splitting the universal powers up into domains thing, you get a lot of crossover between Death and Void stuff when it comes to shadowy dark magic
glass mortar
yea
lime lake
i think theres a difference between dealing shadow damage as a game mechanic and actually using shadow magic
but idk this is all shit they never really get into
we just go with it
glass mortar
sure because the stuff dks and warlocks use would fit into the fields of death and death+disorder (warlock)
while all shadow stuff is from the void and the shadow magic is just like, the less corrupted shadow spells
sub could be anywhere in there tbh
but its never had themes trying it to the void yet so it is just undefined
id argue teleporting is pretty defacto void style shadow magic tho and sub is known for that
craggy barn
sub's powers from the dog thats in them
glass mortar
so it makes more sense
lime lake
it do just be that dog in them
craggy barn
subs artifact weapon being a tooth isnt a coincidence
glass mortar
never forget
outlaws got a legendary pirate cursed sword, assassination got a legendary rogues super poison daggers
and sub got a... legendary demon dogs tooth
hmmmm
craggy barn
represents that dog in them
ivory talon
another question. are you useing killingspree after the first crackshow window on opener? or after you exhause vanish charges?
craggy barn
after first crackshot window
covert kestrel
another question. are you useing killingspree after the first crackshow window o...
Immediately after first subt
ivory talon
aight bet
glass mortar
it has higher prio then vanish
craggy barn
so cs -> ks -> coup if possible -> vanish cs
glass mortar
(so does coup)
thorny crest
eager rose
Nerf after next reset weekly?
frail veldt
yea shadow priest lore started out to wide and then they made it very narrow but...
yeah what exactly is the lore behind "shadow" spells
frail veldt
like in classic wow
lost otter
Silly question. Is it optimal to re roll inside sub windows? Or wait until after
frail veldt
shadow priests have mind flay and shit
glass mortar
like priests npcs even had distinct sources of magic based on their race even
(vanilla priests literally had different priest racials based on race)
frail veldt
I guess those have like derivations in religious discipline
and yeah some based on race'
devouring plague
glass mortar
now tho they r just void boyos
glass mortar
Silly question. Is it optimal to re roll inside sub windows? Or wait until after
ya roll away
frail veldt
yeah legion gave them void shit
glass mortar
they r still pretty confused tbh
frail veldt
the void is an old gods thing
spriest seems like a priest that worships old gods
its kind of cohesive i guess
glass mortar
they still for some reason have shadow words (never explained) and vampire spells (which is like defactro dk domain now)
frail veldt
the sanlayn stuff in priest is a lil weird yeah
glass mortar
other then that half their kit is psychic attacks which easily fits in the void theme imo (think of whispers and madness connected to the old god) and void spells which are just direct strong shadow magic
lime lake
demons doing shadow damage while the burning legion directly opposes the void is also weird
shadow magic just strange all around
frail veldt
psychic attacks also fit originally into the religious discipline concept imo
that derivation always made sense to me
glass mortar
yea i think theres some minor story explaining the void demons
frail veldt
rooted in the ideas of catholicism etc
frail veldt
hahahaha
keen belfry
our daily bread
frail veldt
thy kingdom come
frail veldt
hahaha
glass mortar
im ngl, i understand they have made the void the bbeg so giving them void theme should be cool
i always dug the shadow/power/life word fantasy more tho
cause it fits into like, a priest giving a sermon
and their words cause direct action
keen belfry
who is more rooted in their faith, holy priest or holy paladin
frail veldt
I dont like the old god theme of shadow priest
glass mortar
canaconically paladins are just more zelous priests
like priests worship the light, paladins are so obsessed they become infused by it
keen belfry
we arent doing canon talk delve
glass mortar
if they break their belief they literally cant even use their powers
priests still can
glass mortar
blizzard even proved it when the climax of the priest order hall campaign was them getting bailed out from their temple by the paladins
thats my fantasy
please save me
lime lake
god that was so funny
glass mortar
(i used to be a shadow priest main if u cant tell)
bright lodge
What was expansion where priests have to maintain their resource or just die?
lime lake
little subby priests needed their big daddy paladins to save them
glass mortar
legion
haughty wigeon
get dunked on void boiy
glass mortar
very start
meanwhile the gigachad dks waited for paladins to go help the priests then invade the paladin order hall to try to steal a corpse
haughty wigeon
we have ONE (1) UNO! night elf paladin
glass mortar
the dk campaign went so hard
haughty wigeon
meanwhile the gigachad dks waited for paladins to go help the priests then invad...
and then! that corpse was like
fuck u
PALADINS NUMBER 1
glass mortar
yea i mean, it was the corpse and holy light is pretty strong
not even arthas could fight on that ground remember
from dk starting area
lime lake
yeah that was a bit weird
lime lake
that we just say fuck it lets go ball on holy ground the literal lich king couldnt fight on
glass mortar
well they didnt know
lime lake
we were there
glass mortar
they got cocky
underestimated the power of the light
god the dk starting zone still goes so hard
every couple years i do a fresh playthrough of it
glass mortar
one of the best starter experiences theyve ever done in wow
rigid basin
Absolutely
frank finch
is that na
crisp condor
Heard he got recruited for Yoda's team so he had to move
stuck sparrow
pliant wave
@gaunt phoenix simc belt plz
mighty pivot
he bought a gun and sold all his croissants for twinkies
haughty wigeon
is that na
ye
hardy tartan
anyone else hate how using AP stones takes u out of eating for buff, but mana oil doesn't?
mighty pivot
only you i'm afraid
keen belfry
kinda bored rn
sudden fulcrum
i'm not sure exactly how it works but i got the mount by accident
leaden folio
because i do nothing wednesday
i start "fresh reroll 71" today
just spam dungeon
and got it
bright crane
I thought it was fixed already
The bug is that TW dungeons are counting towards the achieve account
leaden folio
i mean
bright crane
Rather than the 1/4 to receive the buff
bright crane
That’s probably from when it was bugged a month or two ago
leaden folio
they are doin timegate only for people who have a work
upper hawk
seeing other men
tidal sequoia
stuck patrol
Well, with the nerfs to proc and charged crystal what are we gonna use?
Crit chain?
royal stump
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit 
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group 
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
random stirrup
why wouldnt it be red
dapper herald
because it's a good roll?
tender wedge
do you need colour coding on 5 rolls out of 6 to tell you it's good?
it's actually giving you other information not to do with how "good" the rolls are
random stirrup
keep it rolling is red so clearly its red to connect your brain to the button
frail veldt
It's red if you 5 rolled over a KiR
dapper herald
do you need colour coding on 5 rolls out of 6 to tell you it's good?
no?
frail veldt
Or just 5broll in general
dapper herald
why did the guy who made the weak aura color then in the first place
dapper herald
if u say that i don't need anything
tender wedge
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
dapper herald
to tell me
tender wedge
dapper herald
so there's no green colors? because i swear i saw it one time
tender wedge
there's a few other RTB weakauras, i think ive seen one with green
frail veldt
Green isn't a thing
tender wedge
but that one that most people use (because it's linked here) doesn't have green
frail veldt
Tbh blue is irrelevant
I changed t to be only red or yellow
Red can get lost when you roll, yellow can't get lost
That's all you need
light dune
yeeeeee based
tender wedge
change yellow to green 😛
random stirrup
Tbh blue is irrelevant
draws your eyes a bit to the lower duration if you're trying to milk kir
but ya mildly irrelevant
frail veldt
draws your eyes a bit to the lower duration if you're trying to milk kir
I have a kir wa
that shows the duration of the lowest of the 6
in one location
naive river
stuck patrol
Blizzard HATES vers
dapper herald
of course they do
naive river
they are buffing it by 50%
dapper herald
stat that gives damage and dmg reduction?
rose granite
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
haughty wigeon
its over guys we will never get uncapped
thats not really a issue at this point
naive river
so witht he buff to the vers proc and the nerf to the dmg procs are we changing our best belt thing?
honestly just balance aoe with reduced beyone 3/5/8 and just let it hit everything
stuck patrol
they are buffing it by 50%
??? Charged crystal is vers I thought
abstract nest
??? Charged crystal is vers I thought
vivid vessel
its over guys we will never get uncapped
ye thats fine for raid
except
m+
is all about big pulls
stuck patrol
I'm literally high wtf
vivid vessel
they are stupiod
naive river
??? Charged crystal is vers I thought
static charge is vers
stuck patrol
naive river
static charge is being buffed by 50%
honest sparrow
m+
Isnt it also stupid for raid? If they make the hard capped classes really good at their target caps and we have a fight like that these specs are either overperforming the whole tier there or get hard nerfed like warri s1
naive river
i don't feel theres very many encounters with enough mobs that target cap is a problem in raid
vivid vessel
Isnt it also stupid for raid? If they make the hard capped classes really good a...
ye idfk
naive river
also shouldn't they buff the cleave specs like outlaw and fury i feel alot of classes can hit the same numbers with uncapped aoe
honest sparrow
also shouldn't they buff the cleave specs like outlaw and fury i feel alot of cl...
Warri was extremly good at ovinax last saison. Then they nerfed it so it did the same dmg then specs which would crush furry in m+ pulls.
vivid vessel
outlaw aoe prolly getting hit
just cause pc is so strong in raid
well that happened before
with pc way way weaker than current
mark my words !
naive river
dont put that evil out there
also have you tried new KS? I really like the animation lol
dapper herald
just get rid of ks, outlaw was better without it
like the fact that i can't even properly use it in the candle king fight in dfc because i hit a statue and get stunned for 5 seconds
naive river
its changed
lol
its like reapers ult now
from overwatch
best way i can describe it haha
naive river
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/outlaw-rogue-changes-feedback/2120193/3
yea i i think kick and blind at least should be able to be used
vivid vessel
i legit think kidney is more important
naive river
when i was trying it i was thinking man they let me fient but not kick
vivid vessel
its already hard enough to fit a kidney in our rotation
between crackshot/having to build up cps
if when you arent in crackshot you are in ks
when tf can i press kidney
naive river
yea with the free combo points it gives back
frank finch
just cause pc is so strong in raid
word on the street is new raid full of patchwerk
naive river
use it on kidney
vivid vessel
word on the street is new raid full of patchwerk
i was told new raid is full of bosses with adds
so that sounds fake
why you lying to me
black dude
naive river
thats half
frank finch
yea thats alot
vivid vessel
idk
thorn river
Sounds outlaw is back on the menu
naive river
naive river
that was my fav part
frank finch
if pc getts nerfed it will be as ppl start killing the later bosses
novel timber
vivid vessel
if pc getts nerfed it will be as ppl start killing the later bosses
itr get nerfed from hc data tho
not mythic
naive river
100% will help out with the cause
thorn river
Rather skip AR so we can chill
frank finch
how could i forget about that
naive river
NO BF
magic shuttle
i will not bf week 1 (I will forget to apply the buff)
naive river
they doing a heroic week this time around or everything all at once?
frank finch
if we are lucky we fall threw the cracks of tunning because theres so many busted tier sets
thorn river
Skip bf ar and ks and we get buffs
vivid vessel
they doing a heroic week this time around or everything all at once?
everything at one
vivid vessel
well yes
frank finch
u tricked me
edgy phoenix
play what 
edgy phoenix
investing
edgy phoenix
its in pins
desert tendon
it s a meme
wintry solar
I'm not clicking that suspicious link
vivid vessel
guys have you seen?
did you like it
edgy phoenix
lime lake
Posting suspicious links to steal my discord account wtf
craggy kelp
charged bolts dead now yeah? 
mighty pivot
not so charged anymore
sudden fulcrum
it was already kinda dead in keys because it pulls random shit
pliant wave
I feel so bad for @vivid vessel that he didn't get to play outlaw in bfa.
brisk meadow
Posting suspicious links to steal my discord account wtf
@desert tendon me and my homies worked on a game you wanna check it out?
naive river
think static charge with the 50% buff?
vivid vessel
I feel so bad for <@352916297262301194> that he didn't get to play outlaw in bf...
why
i look at outlaw in bfa
and i dont feel that excited
it looks like sl outlaw but with less stuffs
pliant wave
No capped BF was sooooooooooooooooo strong
naive river
the uncontrollable stun and dr'ing a traget off between the eyes caused some problems
frail veldt
People confuse being op and actually being fun to play
edgy phoenix
crackshot gigafun
ripe ibex
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/outlaw-rogue-changes-feedback/2120193/3
w post
frail veldt
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/outlaw-rogue-changes-feedback/2120193/3
Good write up zac
vivid vessel
give a like
desert tendon
yo zac
vivid vessel
or 
ripe ibex
hey guys tomelivs here
ripe ibex
haha
brisk meadow
MDR
unique echo
wait but the interview was not about raid only no @zac ?
haughty wigeon
People confuse being op and actually being fun to play
this
unique echo
i mean in raid i dont give a shit about beeing capped there is usually not more then one fight anyways where it would matter
haughty wigeon
blade flurry was crazy cause witz azerite talent fucked hard
wintry solar
^this
wintry solar
This
wintry solar
Also
Bfa outlaw was genuinely fun
Not because of wits
But because the rotation is fun
Bte was alright
unique echo
i mean people tend to think that something was fun only because it is long ago
wintry solar
Obviously watching gameplay of it sucks because watching gameplay of anything is ass
unique echo
i think there were a lot of flaws with outlaw in bfa aswell
wintry solar
So just watching it isn't good enough
I can't even watch SL outlaw, my favorite outlaw, without wanting to jump off a cliff from boredom
unique echo
i think current outlaw is quite fun there are just some things the should be addressed
wintry solar
It's fine at best rn
unique echo
nah thats a hot take
wintry solar
Bfa was better though. Would rather have bfas flaws.
unique echo
nah bte beeing a stun go away with that shit
naive river
no i love crackshot
wintry solar
Crackshot glaze is so forced. It's fun but not that fun.
But bte being a stun was one of the flaws yeah
I'm kinda neutral about personally tbh
desert tendon
i did like it zac now
because i like you
so i assume i also like your post
cause you re likeable
unlike zeross
vivid vessel
ty cuh
wintry solar
Zeross should make a post too
desert tendon
i aint your cuh
dont call me cuh
we re kissbro now
so come and kiss on the cheeks
wintry solar
But zeross would get mad
wintry solar
Let's get a fanfic writer in here
sudden fulcrum
frail veldt
Bfa was better though. Would rather have bfas flaws.
Nah you just miss being op
If you had bfa play style and were performing worse than our current you wouldn't say that imo
wintry solar
I don't care about being strong
frail veldt
Then play the spec you want
wintry solar
I don't run ace
wintry solar
What was the point of this?
frail veldt
If you really don't care about being strong
You have access to play non crackshot outlaw
Right now
wintry solar
Who said anything about crackshot?
wintry solar
But recently?
craggy barn
lol
frail veldt
Brother
wintry solar
I also said I've warmed up to crackshot multiple times
frail veldt
How is this real
frail veldt
Hahahaha
craggy barn
he says its fun right there
wintry solar
Go be stupid elsewhere
haughty wigeon
ye
haughty wigeon
bte eing strong for one gcd was nice
but outlaw very clearly moved away from it
im all about realisim
also i agree with mewo
wintry solar
Outlaw carries a barrel of loaded pistols
haughty wigeon
you can like a version of outlaw hell i love dreadblades venthyr
but the majority of people who liked bfa outlaw (not saying you btw)
only liked it cause it was oppressivelky strong
like how the majority of vdh players like vdh cause its oppressively strong
wintry solar
Necro shield was cool
haughty wigeon
the upcoming shit storm thats gonna happen when vdh gets kneecapped
craggy barn
fuckin necro sheidling on top of a player is op
craggy barn
huge insult
wintry solar
Zomb
craggy barn
what
frail veldt
As a shadow priest it felt great
wintry solar
This semi inside joke about "stealthless" in my name has cause more harm than good
craggy barn
yep
craggy barn
we were talking about shitty builds
frail veldt
you act like this is the first time
wintry solar
And I did it becausw I'm not a pussy
lime lake
haughty wigeon
very demure
honest gulch
hi, could someone advice me, got 2 trins zee's thug hotline (raid finder) and junkmaestro (normal ), got 3 puzzles for exchange, for which trin i should go ( mostly m+ ) ?
haughty wigeon
very cutsy
haughty wigeon
hi, could someone advice me, got 2 trins zee's thug hotline (raid finder) and ju...
do you intent to do heroic to get the most out dinars?
honest gulch
do you intent to do heroic to get the most out dinars?
proably yes, already used 3 on capo's molten
wintry solar
Oh yeah, I rarely played kyrian anything but the steward was great
cinder relic
People confuse being strong with good gameplay
Remember how terrible outlaw felt, until they fixed BF (doing way more damage in dungeons now) and how great ppl say it is rn (other than ks)
frail veldt
Remember how terrible outlaw felt, until they fixed BF (doing way more damage in...
gameplays the same though
crystal hearth
Hey guys how good would u say it the "assisted Highlight" for outlaw trying to learn the spec
frail veldt
I never said being op doesnt feel good
but I can say gameplay didnt change
between before and after BF fix
cinder relic
Hey guys how good would u say it the "assisted Highlight" for outlaw trying to l...
Not ideal
cinder relic
U could try it as a very very beginner but you should learn the core fundamentals pretty quickly after if nothing else
frail veldt
the BF fix(buff) didnt make the gameplay better but it did make it more fun
cuz being OP is fun
but when people say they want to "bring back" an old version of the spec
they usually imply the gameplay
craggy quiver
Hell nah
frail veldt
but in reality that wouldnt replciate the feeling of fun
cuz what they really want to bring back is being op hahaha
craggy quiver
Crackshot over any old outlaw
frail veldt
which you can do with any version of the spec
cinder relic
I mean I'm agreeing with u lol
craggy quiver
Imo
frail veldt
oh yeah
cinder relic
I think ppl conflate "good spec design" with "being tuned high"
frail veldt
oh sick okay were on the same page yeah lol
I will acknowledge that being op is fun though
cant deny that
cinder relic
I mean I've said the same thing 100s of time at this point yk
frail veldt
but the specs that are fun even when bad are the ones I love the most
and I think outlaw is still one of those
cinder relic
A spec is undertuned and everybody says "THEY NEED TO REWORK x SPEC"
its like, okay bro
frail veldt
its hard to separate
haughty wigeon
but the specs that are fun even when bad are the ones I love the most
always a fan of vdh cause of that
red zinc
I think shadow priest is a perfect example of a spec that is fundamentally flawed but people overlook it when its broken
Like
cinder relic
bro the amount of spriest rerollers when its OP makes me sick
frail veldt
so true
red zinc
Your entire aoe being based off a 20s cd ability that can miss if the tank moves or when the terrain bugs
cinder relic
itll be an spriest season and we walk into group 2 raid with 5 shadow priests
red zinc
what a shitshow of a spec
cinder relic
Like bro have an ounce of shame
frail veldt
I was an spriest main before outlaw
and I kinda gave up with how many times they reworked away from the gameplay I liked
red zinc
All the sp mains all happy now because they get two charges of crash on a lower cooldown
frail veldt
but since they were "op" no one cared even though the gameplay felt worse
red zinc
classic lizzard bandaid
random stirrup
bro the amount of spriest rerollers when its OP makes me sick
spriest is the most fun caster though
so at least its understandable
red zinc
i did try sp on ptr
outer merlin
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
red zinc
That new void volley ability kinda cool
wintry solar
Fire is best caster
red zinc
visually anyway
frail veldt
and honestly I REALLY miss mind sear from early DF
wintry solar
Brrrrrr
red zinc
No clue if it does deeps
frail veldt
surrender was fun too yeah
red zinc
Can see the s1 meta returning ngl
frail veldt
well which version of surrender
red zinc
Frost/enha/assa
wintry solar
I've no clue if fire mage is actually good now. Cold day in hell before I invite a mage to a key.
frail veldt
cuz that was used in SL too
frail veldt
I've no clue if fire mage is actually good now. Cold day in hell before I invite...
fires like outlaw where good ones pump and bad ones are a HUGE int
cinder relic
spriest is the most fun caster though
Yet when its weak we can barely get 1 in 2 groups
Really makes you think
craggy quiver
Emerald nightmare stm
cinder relic
STM was an all timer ability for sure
red zinc
Outlaw is kinda similar though
cinder relic
to STM?
cinder relic
I was about to say 
red zinc
To sp in the rerollers thing
frail veldt
no one rerolls outlaw
cinder relic
When outlaw is OP all the fotm fuckers come out
frail veldt
think so?
cinder relic
Its the most attractive rogue to fotm players I feel
craggy quiver
Yes they do
frail veldt
maybe earlier versions
craggy quiver
Yea
cinder relic
Not like, turbo strong
red zinc
i have
craggy quiver
They all gone
frail veldt
after the DF rework I think theres a wall to fotmers
red zinc
they all die to ks and quit in a week
random stirrup
Its the most attractive rogue to fotm players I feel
there were SOOO many assa rogues last season
red zinc
you dont see the new people in the discord?
frail veldt
it was hilarious
red zinc
cinder relic
Sin I feel is attractive to rogue players, and fotm rerollers, but like, I swear when outlaw is good
frail veldt
he thought zac was like hacking
cinder relic
Its like a swarm
craggy quiver
We definitely had fotm periods here
desert tendon
Guns are cool. (Not american, I’m french)
frail veldt
you dont see the new people in the discord?
yeah but unlike UHDK or Sp, you cant be new and be that good at outlaw
red zinc
Everything else is just boring
frail veldt
at least relatively less so
craggy quiver
Double coup had a lot of people come in xd
frail veldt
I hopped on UHDK for the first time ever this season and fucking CRAAAANKED
random stirrup
Double coup had a lot of people come in xd
every time outlaw has even a hint of bug 80 million fotmers come in to ask how to do it
random stirrup
you even see it with the randoms asking about snd thing
wintry solar
.>
random stirrup
time to check 
red zinc
If real all of us will be signing an nda
lime lake
Already writing the reddit post
icy cedar
outlaw is popular with fotm types because it's so fast, most of the specs in this game are designed for the current WoW population, most of whom have developed boomer fingers
craggy quiver
Critter shit was cringe
icy cedar
and move so slow
frail veldt
is or isnt
craggy quiver
But double coup was so good
wintry solar
If real all of us will be signing an nda
Dang dude I just lost eye sight in both my eyea
What a predicament
icy cedar
i dunno how i've been spared so far, im 34 but my fingers ain't arthritic yet
but my guildies are always talking about icing their wrists and shit
frail veldt
they prob have shit setups
icy cedar
special gloves
red zinc
old ass
frail veldt
or dont exercise at all
icy cedar
exercise
red zinc
gamer gloves is crazy
wintry solar
Gotta at least do stretches
random stirrup
If real all of us will be signing an nda
dont work
actually wait
you had to swap to fatebound right
hmm
exotic agate
so belt getting big nerfs and some buffs but seems like charged bolts and charged crystal still top picks for single target
random stirrup
i dont think it works
glass mortar
wait do people unironically think outlaw is the most fotm rogue spec when its good?
maybe pre target cap law
unless u think outlaw simply wasnt good in s3 df or rn
s3 outlaw was so good world first keys were being done with triple outlaw
and legit nobody played it stil
red zinc
i mean hard to tell when assa is barely ever good and sub is never fotm
glass mortar
in raid or keys
xd
this version of law is literally fotm proof idk
outlaw blasts hard as fuck in keys on live
aint nobody playin it tho
hybrid crown
It's soooooo good for farm keys too
glass mortar
i mean i feel like s1 of df outlaw, sin and sub were all good (sin broken tbh) before nerfs
and everyone played sin
but still nobody fotm'd to sin
maybe rogues just fotm proof tbh
like its just rogue players bouncing around between specs idk
glass mortar
I hopped on UHDK for the first time ever this season and fucking CRAAAANKED
unholy dk is an abomination rn ngl
similar to s3 survival
very strong but the playstyle is just gross and not unholy dk
glass mortar
hate it when that happens to specs tbh
proven ocean
@zac if my rtb red means good buffs??? ty for answer 🙂 🙂 🙂
🙂
guys
can u grapple during killingspree with fix
or
vivid vessel
ye
red zinc
@proven ocean im going to fart into your air conditioning unit
frail veldt
Effectively
proven ocean
thats crazy
red zinc
nah people are asking for a bigger slower though
vivid vessel
exotic agate
soon people will be asking for a root
proven ocean
nah but ngl
idm the 20% slow
but ye not needed
but
its legit no impact
whatsoever
like
exotic agate
imagine rtb + 7cp
red zinc
yer
exotic agate
4sec root
proven ocean
but its w.e
tender wedge
I don’t mind it but it’s so minor you really do wonder why it’s there at all
red zinc
ever since we started doing that 3 muscle pull without pyro's
start of CB is so easy
gawd damn
vivid vessel
ye
proven ocean
pyro's are so easy to deal with
proven ocean
3 muscles are just hard
vivid vessel
its about cap
red zinc
not if you have like 4
vivid vessel
it makes a huge diff
red zinc
which is what some idiots were pulling
proven ocean
no its not
proven ocean
well ofc u dont lose time yes
red zinc
just joined a group for cb 19, tank wanted to pull 2 muscle and not skip double hobgoblin because "his class couldnt do it"
proven ocean
its not slower at all
red zinc
never said gl with key and left so fast
glass mortar
why is there even a slow
flavor
proven ocean
idk the pull is easy for me
glass mortar
u know its pretty hard to unload those old fashioned pirate pistols
vivid vessel
ye but why do you want to make it harder
glass mortar
they are inaccurate and unweildy
red zinc
surely guardian druid can still do the hobgoblin skip
glass mortar
gl running at max speed while using it
red zinc
like
proven ocean
also its not easy but
wdym
red zinc
that guy is just cooked
glass mortar
like who cares lets be honest
20% slow is the smallest cost of this thingy
i could imagine
and u can grapple during it
glass mortar
outfuckingstanding
glass mortar
ngl
proven ocean
theres no shot u die
vivid vessel
he does
frail veldt
I think zeross would rather die
proven ocean
skill issue
frail veldt
than say something is hard
proven ocean
I think zeross would rather die
u dont even play keys
frail veldt
literally him being crushed by a car
frail veldt
"lifting this car is easy"
frail veldt
"im just tired"
inner cosmos
its a hard pull
frail veldt
brother you need to understand the importance of relative difficulty
proven ocean
then evasion the chair
then feint the dedbuff
ddebuff
and then cloak if u get chair + dedbuff
frail veldt
calling everything easy is pointless
vivid vessel
then evasion the chair
not talking about rogu8e
proven ocean
lol
proven ocean
not talking about rogu8e
ye ik
vivid vessel
i have not once died on that pull
its still the hardest pack in the game
just not for me
vivid vessel
ye
proven ocean
we never mentioned that being hard
but ye
we will do it imo good one cuz i talked to kush about this before
cuz even udk does less dps to muscles if u pull that
cedar kernel
gm mates
proven ocean
cuz everyone is targetcapped
cedar kernel
my time zone already broken
cedar kernel
proven ocean
fossil lintel
Does outbreak have a cap?
proven ocean
Does outbreak have a cap?
proven ocean
it doesnt do shit even on perfect cap
frail veldt
no
proven ocean
no no mewo
frail veldt
difficulty is RELATIVE my boy
frail veldt
things that arent possible arent even on the scale
frail veldt
impossible is past hard
proven ocean
everything is easy
proven ocean
see
fossil lintel
Actually, I think frost DKs are getting an uncapped spell, not sure though
proven ocean
now ur saying everything is easy
frail veldt
harder than any pack in wow
vivid vessel
i mean for tank maybe
proven ocean
no for everyone
vivid vessel
it deosnt do shit to anyone else
proven ocean
did u see the route btw
plucky venture
is outlaw better than sin rn
vivid vessel
what route
proven ocean
u need uncap boomkin
vivid vessel
show me
vivid vessel
this ?
proven ocean
