Don't like stuff insta reseting?
#outlaw
rigid basin
restive obsidian
could just make it so vanish removes threat in a buildup, IE 25 -> 50->100% after 3 seconds
rigid basin
Kekw
hardy tartan
i like when it doesn't reset the first 3-4 times, but it does the 5th when the mob is less than 10%
rigid basin
Honestly just about half a sec would be plenty
The fact it isn't consistent is the annoying bit
Prolly some game tick BS
restive obsidian
it's a server tick problem
rigid basin
Aye that too
fallen knot
can i say blizzard is loving shamans way too much lately? wdym perma ascendance on both enha and ele helloo fuck me i'll play shaman next season aswell i guess
vapid blaze
idk maybe having more asc (and more consistency) on ele is nerfed
and then they nerf the power of it
fallen knot
it will legit be a 1button spec
enh
there's a trinket for casters
that gives like 30% crit
and has perma uptime
that will get gutted for sure
gaunt phoenix
ohhhhh
late swallow
2:30 adr
gaunt phoenix
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
gaunt phoenix
ye
vivid vessel
ye same
late swallow
Is outlaw a 2.5 min spec now?
vivid vessel
thats why i wasnt noticing it, but was noticing adr being shorter cd
cause it was just a shorter cd !
late swallow
Is outlaw a 2.5 min spec now?
fallen knot
what do you mean 2:30min AR
vivid vessel
holy shmoly what a revelation !
fallen knot
but like it's perma 2.5min?
fallen knot
you hit lucky coin once
vivid vessel
and its forever 2.5 cd
vivid vessel
dont drop combat
fallen knot
in a m+ scenario
vivid vessel
thats the whole thing about fatebound in m+
do not
drop combat
stupid ass capstone
vale warren
Worn doll bis
vivid vessel
nah i just ghope we wont ever play fb in m+
mighty pivot
imagine if they changed it from 10s to 20s
vapid blaze
i hope we wont ever play fb
regardless of raid vs m+
vivid vessel
of always pkaying it in m+
and fb in raid
which i would be fine with
fb in raid isnt as offensive
fallen knot
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeee you wont play outlaw in raid progress ever
vivid vessel
if anything fb is made for raid and trickster for m+
vapid blaze
think its just the more cringe and uninteresting tree
vivid vessel
after all fb has 4 grapple
vapid blaze
wich is fine
it has its place for people who just wanna alt it
vivid vessel
and trickster has trickz
i think playing fb in raid would be good for us also
cause trickster might get our aoe nerfed in raid
which would impact m+
know what i mean or
vapid blaze
depends on the fight
vapid blaze
if we get another eranog
outlaw gets gutted again
vivid vessel
while with fb it wouldnt happen prolly
vapid blaze
precise cuts will just get taken out back
again
fallen knot
but if an outlaw will be brought to top guild progress
vivid vessel
pc is such a funny talent man
fallen knot
i will like throw a party legit
vapid blaze
well its an issue cause of the hardcap
vivid vessel
i think its funny that outlaw gets nerfed every raid tier early on
but is never brought in raid
like wht is blizzard scared of
fallen knot
yea that is insane
vapid blaze
cause wtf is the point of getting hardcapped
and losing on low target counts
fallen knot
damage profile is really not adequate for raid progress or am i dumb
vivid vessel
cause wtf is the point of getting hardcapped
and losing on low target counts
ye
since ps in m+ i dont mind as much the hardcap
cause i feel i have a niche
that is quite powerful
unique echo
but is never brought in raid
actually never thought of that but its so fucking true 😄
vapid blaze
and pc is needed for low target counts
otherwise you just do no damage on 2-3 targets its so dumb
vivid vessel
i finish packs, and i destroy low target
vivid vessel
actually never thought of that but its so fucking true 😄
ye right, outlaw get gunned down everytime
but like
vapid blaze
i wouldnt say outlaw has a place in raid
fallen knot
it should actually
vivid vessel
also
fallen knot
like
vapid blaze
design wise i guess
vivid vessel
tier set
vivid vessel
I think you guys dont understand the ramifications of fb tier set btw
fallen knot
immunity
vivid vessel
what is one way to reduce outlaw reliance on uptime rn
fallen knot
omega movement spells
vapid blaze
but with current trickster tuning it is actually good at stuff xD
vapid blaze
?
vivid vessel
time is running out !
vale warren
Acro strikes
fallen knot
move out of the boss
vivid vessel
no way you are losing !
vivid vessel
what is one way to reduce outlaw reliance on uptime rn
you reduce adr cd so adr is easier to maintain even with uptime loss
fallen knot
i really did not read your question right
vapid blaze
well trickster tset does that too tho
vivid vessel
well trickster tset does that too tho
no it doesnt
it reduce it via cdr
fatebound reduce it baseline
vapid blaze
well yeah you get more cdr
vivid vessel
no but
vapid blaze
idk ends up beeing the same or?
vivid vessel
you get more cdr when playing and pressing buttons
fallen knot
you lose AR on trickster you just like die inside
vapid blaze
with the coup bug i could recover alot quicker after deaths than now
vivid vessel
you are less likely to lose adr on fb
vapid blaze
vs with fb you just get fucked even more from f.e. dying
vivid vessel
because its a lower cd
baseline
like you understand right
how a lower cd
is better
for downtime
mighty pivot
vapid blaze
yeah
vs baseline for sure
vivid vessel
like it seems so obvious to me they are trying to make fb raid
and trickster m+
was that way since the start tho
gaunt phoenix
yep
vapid blaze
well think thats true for trickster aswell
civic zephyr
zac did you get them to fix KS yet?
vapid blaze
yeah i agree
its a good direction
vivid vessel
working on it
civic zephyr
okay thaankss king
civic zephyr
W zac moment
vivid vessel
how do i find the feedback forum tho
vapid blaze
could be a very lit season
vapid blaze
i just hope they make KS faster xD
vivid vessel
where do people drop their ks feedback
vivid vessel
is there a ks thing or what
vivid vessel
hm
civic zephyr
can i say i like it?
you can, the idea is there, but there is alot of contradiction in itss own gameplay rn that kinda fucks with the flow of the spec
civic zephyr
the idea itself is solid, but they need to make some changess still to make it functional
unique echo
the thing is tho @zac we kinda knew all from the start the we gonna end up in a world where one tree is good for raid and one for m+ and whjle i would be cool if ud had the choice im kinda fine with playing trickster in dungeons and fb in raid
vivid vessel
@gaunt phoenix is the goblin you ?
civic zephyr
lmao
gaunt phoenix
me dwarf
mighty pivot
goblin is me
vivid vessel
its you ?
mighty pivot
am goblin irl
fallen knot
zac what do you think about new ks
mighty pivot
vivid vessel
very well worded also
couldnt have done it better
nah actually lacks something
big L
fallen knot
ok yea makes sense
civic zephyr
you need to hit them with the "rank 1 outlaw" zac
let them know you mean businesssss
mighty pivot
nah actually lacks something
yeah but I cannot add cat memes on wow forums
surfer guy is an interesting person
vivid vessel
like
how are these concerns
im confusion
wdym you are out of range during your crackshot opener
civic zephyr
the gobbo post hit the big bad things, like the cp flow messing up playstyles and so on
mighty pivot
BTE has like 30-40y range ofc it it will outrange KS
civic void
wdym you are out of range during your crackshot opener
Just proc ace ?
vivid vessel
I mena
civic void
Not that hard ofc
vivid vessel
its a gun tho
the new ks
so i undertand
it being strange
the low range
but i couldnt care less ngl
mighty pivot
we are using very small guns during KS to shoot faster
vivid vessel
i think it would have been fun to just press it and run away
celest cobalt
What's range on PS?
mighty pivot
yeah
mighty pivot
pistol is 20y base 30y talented I think
vivid vessel
you never need more basically
vale warren
More range than evoker btw
mighty pivot
the thing is
mighty pivot
if KS had greater radius it would be terrible given the random target selection
mighty pivot
yes
mighty pivot
that is awful in general
rustic lotus
Just make it so killing spree is just all BtEs
vivid vessel
It makes it look cool!
its trash for damage the ability is basically useless in so many scenarios
mighty pivot
crackshot KS
vivid vessel
its something we complain litteraly anytime there is a proc or item or whatever like thaht
keen belfry
It could look the exact same and hit your prio target no? It can lose 0 flavor and function better
vivid vessel
and they want to make that type of damage one of our main finisher
glass mortar
idk if id say so many scenarios, the scenarios it makes it useless r fairly rare. it does devalue it as a spell quite often tho, and reduces ur kits prio damage at the same time
all for the sake of flavor?
idk tradeoffs like that r silly to me
cinder relic
Flavor is important
vivid vessel
idk if id say so many scenarios, the scenarios it makes it useless r fairly rare...
i mean in m+ or even raid its decently often that you have useless mobs around your prio mob
glass mortar
hm stretched on this one
wary bridge
cinder relic
Losing a modicum of prio damage for vibes is value
late swallow
Flavor is important
Me eating pineapple
vivid vessel
first of all
i have no idea what this word means
but i know its wrong
and its more than a modicum
glass mortar
very small amount basically
rustic lotus
Damn what if you could cast finishers during KS channel?
cinder relic
Sorry this is the biggest problem facing outlaw is killing Spree no longer does prio damage
rustic lotus
Since ur generating so many CP
vivid vessel
BRO
cinder relic
It might be the reason it's weak next season
vivid vessel
nah but
anytime
we
talk
about
a concern
you are being
you
stop being you
glass mortar
i mean u could at least make it so it only does it with BF up?
vivid vessel
its cringe
late swallow
Ok zeross
glass mortar
imagine we get another mugzee
and ur wasting half or more of killing sprees
into immune bomb mobs
uncontrollably
why? for flavor?
cinder relic
That seems fair
glass mortar
do other specs deal with this?
cinder relic
Should only do it during ks
cinder relic
do other specs deal with this?
Yes, ret paladin
It's a huge issue with ret paladin right now
glass mortar
that sucks for them and they should fix it to
if they just took that aspect of og kspree tho
where it was random during bf
fixes a bunch of this issue
like the mugzee clause
latent oak
if its a huge issue for ret why is it ok if outlaw also shares in this huge issue
vivid vessel
idk when ks is such a large portion of our damage
i dont want it to be that
cause thats the worse damage profile you would ever want
glass mortar
i mean idk if realz plans it to be a larger portion of our damage then it is now
glass mortar
increasing damage and increasing cd makes it more impactful when u press it
cinder relic
that sucks for them and they should fix it to
Rets hero talent empyrian hammer procs will go into immune targets
glass mortar
doesnt necessarily move it up our dps tho
cinder relic
U lose a lot of damage from this
vivid vessel
me when i cancel aura bf before ks just to press bf right after
mighty pivot
random target abilities are shit, it's literally the case with the belt proc too
vivid vessel
ye
glass mortar
i mean belt proc just sucks
glass mortar
this exists for the flavor and animation quality
mighty pivot
it serves no gameplay purpose to randomly target
glass mortar
it does make it look cooler especially if u have mobs on all sides of u
vivid vessel
I mean it looks cool
but you can prolly make it looks cool
another way
lets be honest
mighty pivot
that's why I specified gameplay. yes aesthetically it looks nice
vivid vessel
I dont want my ability to be hjeld up just cause it looks cooler that way
its also a slap in the face of outlaw
when we are like
our whole thing for such a long time was prio damage
and we lost that to basically every spec in the game
half the specs in m+ rn just funnel
cinder relic
vivid vessel
what
dont think i have played with a single spec this season that wasnt gaining damage with more targets
only spec i have played with that didnt is outlaw
and now you also want to have one of our main ability LOSE damage with more target
(lose prio whatever you understood)
also one of the main problem of fatebound we have been complaining about btw
next lava
!wa
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KS Ticking damage taken
vapid blaze
yeah hitting random mobs is just bad design
you also end up losing aoe due to that
cause no ghostly strike etc
vapid blaze
nah but if you end up hitting random mobs with the KS
you dont get damage amp from ghostly and thus less blade flurry
or am i cooked
mighty pivot
no
vivid vessel
cooked
vapid blaze
ah ok nvm then
mighty pivot
same with fazed
vapid blaze
is the bf damage not amped from it?
vapid blaze
ahhh
dark fractal
Would be huge
mighty pivot
no it's degenerate if it does
dark fractal
Uncap outlaw
vapid blaze
very mb then
i always thought it worked like dis
cause other specs do
mighty pivot
because then you MUST cleave off of amped mobs
cinder relic
Damage amps do not cleave
vivid vessel
with similar cleave type effect
cinder relic
That's how the game works
vapid blaze
isnt psychic link like that
cinder relic
Just a global rule
vivid vessel
because then you MUST cleave off of amped mobs
well i mean
mighty pivot
this was changed very early in the game when sweeping strikes was murdering people
vivid vessel
you should anyway
cinder relic
If a target is taking 5000% more damage from a debuff, using psychic link wouldn't instantly kill the other target
tulip ice
Hiya! Does anyone have a crack shot WA that does not cause LUA errors?
nocturne folio
If a target is taking 5000% more damage from a debuff, using psychic link wouldn...
hows that not flavor?
cinder relic
Else shadow priest would be the best spec in the game on mugzee
vivid vessel
Else shadow priest would be the best spec in the game on mugzee
outlaw *
mighty pivot
you should anyway
it could a garbage target like laborer equivalent
vapid blaze
ah i see
rustic lotus
So the last design of KS was a better damage profile?
latent oak
can outlaw do the critter shenanigans that shadow can
if u hit a critter for 10 billion does that flurry correctly
since it isnt a damage taken debuff
latent oak
ya
latent oak
bait title gg
mighty pivot
except BF doesn't cleave overkill anymore since their fix
vivid vessel
outlaw is back
nocturne folio
bait title gg
you do what you gotta do when you have 109 viewers, leave the man alone
pearl trout
Red Outlaw 
cinder relic
So the last design of KS was a better damage profile?
I'm a literal sense, yes, but it's something that I feel is so inconsequential but some ppl argue its more important than I so
vivid vessel
I'm a literal sense, yes, but it's something that I feel is so inconsequential b...
these type of things are very important in m+
random damage is very bad in m+
maybe thats why you think its not as important
latent belfry
Is fate bound back?
vivid vessel
in raid i cant really think of many times you would care that much
in m+ you constantly have prio target scenarios
or pulling into bosses
its litteraly the main thing of m+ really
cinder haven
Hmm, we will lose out gs value with the ks rework
vivid vessel
also it creates very annoying situations
where you would either not cast ks at all
or just cast it at 1 cp for the buff
trickster buffs
well this would be optimal everytime you have a prio target that you know is going to live longer and you have x amount of targets around prolly
maybe at 2 targets it would start being enough damage to be worth it to cast a real ks
but ye anytime prio damage is more important you would either not cast ks or cast ks at 1 cp
cinder haven
I guess they made it hit random targets for a nicer looking animation
vivid vessel
yes
cinder haven
But why not let it do aoe and no bf
latent oak
ya that was my thought
vivid vessel
ye just cleave at 100% ?
cinder haven
Maybe uncapped damage
mighty pivot
they could give it the BR treatment and have it cleave more with BF up
but being aoe by default
cinder haven
Does everything really have to interact with bf?
rigid basin
Either that or have it do prio damage and change the animation to the pretty once when bf is up
vivid vessel
Does everything really have to interact with bf?
well
its outlaw
so ye kinda
i think its fine to have an ability that dont tho
i wouldnt care
rigid basin
its outlaw
Literally this lmao
cinder haven
BF interacting with gun skills is weird already
mighty pivot
rename it to gun flurry
nocturne folio
i mean ks didnt interact with bf
it did yes
vivid vessel
it was a cleave ability iirc
cinder relic
Ks always flurried
carmine verge
ditch blades and let us dual wield guns
carmine verge
equilibrium-ass gun fu
cinder relic
Funny enough
vivid vessel
it cleaved for 100% tho
which is why it didnt matter
when they changed it to only target your target
they removed that part
maybe there was a reason it cleqaved for 100% ?
they knew random damage was bad
thoguths
proper bear
Tbf, they fixed the giant issue with KS - the movement. Valid feedback exists on target interaction and cast time, but it's a huge improvement as it is. Refactoring things doesn't always make it 100% perfect, give them feedback and maybe they'll listen and adjust things a bit
I'm v happy with the change
cinder haven
Of course it’s a huge improvement
carmine verge
add curved bullets from wanted, too
nocturne folio
Idk, but cleaving now for 100% sounds good. It will be buried on this discord and no one will hear about it though.
cinder relic
I will mention the random targeting in an article if given the chance to talk about the new outlaw tier sets
cinder haven
But we should still provide feedback while they are cooking
proper bear
@cinder relic any very early prediction or guess if ho/kir will be close enough to play whatever u want within reason?
vivid vessel
edgy phoenix
wat
cinder relic
<@96834520417828864> any very early prediction or guess if ho/kir will be close ...
Probably
But who knows
leaden folio
lmao dev read more wowhead than forum
cinder relic
lmao dev read more wowhead than forum
If they did they would have fixed ks a long time ago considering I've been saying "ks is a bad spell for modern wow" since beta
Lol
edgy phoenix
is new dung playable on ptr?
vivid vessel
no
jovial sedge
it is, just not as key
edgy phoenix
ugh ill check now ingame ig
if i have to do campaign cba
cant see the entrance
prolly gotta do campaign
glass mortar
honestly
i think having it continue to random target during bf, giving it the factor where it Bfd for 100% increased damage like old kspree and tuning around that
would be the best of both worlds
mighty pivot
PTR feedback
glass mortar
keep the prio damage, keep the cool factor of shooting all around u during bf
gaunt phoenix
yer
fading hatch
Can you cloak and/or evasion the charging bulls on the last boss of TOP?
normal forge
will this iteration of KS last longer then the one in place atm?
cinder relic
Slightly
normal forge
maybe with 30% haste it can feel better
keen belfry
keen belfry
when the already too long channel gets longer
normal forge
so counter productive, to cancel something, to not overcharge something, bad design if really needs to play like that
covert kestrel
I mentioned this- canceling it at 7cp with finisher
now i finish early inside and outside of the game 
keen belfry
so counter productive, to cancel something, to not overcharge something, bad des...
its a step in the right direction, but still needs some refinement
cinder relic
Sounds planned to increase the cd of ks and up the damage
keen belfry
KS not killing you is a HUGE win
normal forge
make haste shorten KS duration even further
normal forge
KS not killing you is a HUGE win
yes, but slim down the rant option
languid juniper
KS not killing you and not giving you sea sickness is a huge win
rigid basin
Can you cloak and/or evasion the charging bulls on the last boss of TOP?
99% sure you can cloak em (I prefer precloaking the add spawn circles tho)
keen belfry
but also, i really dislike the new KS in terms of what it actually does
really dislike is strong term
but i would like if they addressed a few things, not just cd and dmg
normal forge
question, on the new KS, if i use it against one target, will all dmg land on that given target?
rigid basin
Ye
keen belfry
are there targets nearby? if so, it hits all randomly
normal forge
no no, just one target, nothing nearby
rigid basin
Then the entire KS hits ur target
keen belfry
well yes then, the dmg doesnt miss
normal forge
what about blade rush, is anyone ever using this talent?
sudden fulcrum
poop rush is the Taco Bell finisher
wintry solar
No br
There's no use for it when we have infinite energy during adr
Coupled with super high adr uptime
normal forge
they should bake blade rush inside BF, everytime u activate BF it does a blade rush, minus the blade rush animation.
glass mortar
actually based, force kir users to uncontrollably charge their target everytime they wanna use deft
languid juniper
new KS is definitely more friendly, but does it have a place in builds now or is it skippable?
rigid basin
Accidentally tab to a mob not in combat and go flying out of the pack when you bf
glass mortar
i mean trickster requires it to function
proven ocean
ur the fool
proven ocean
?
vivid vessel
ur the fool
YOU ARE A FOOL
keen belfry
im gonna play a no KS tricksterbuild next season
glass mortar
i mean that picture is 100% fake
but a third dh spec coming void themed
definitly not 100% fake
pretty likely imo
proven ocean
YOU ARE A FOOL
keen belfry
thats pretty pretty sick
keen belfry
maybe awangromp makes a return?
proven ocean
i mean that picture is 100% fake
no it isnt
vivid vessel
fully uncapped
"to players"
glass mortar
or the most recently added is listed last
proven ocean
wintry solar
carmine verge
void DH coming in 11.2.5, trust
proven ocean
void DH coming in 11.2.5, trust
no its next expansion
im playing new expansion rn
alpha's alpha
for developers only
and weran here pretends he knows everything
cute
keen belfry
delve getting cooked rn
carmine verge
found the new DH spec beneath the couch in midnight housing
keen belfry
fight back delve
tough ridge
im playing new expansion rn
tell me sub is coming back bro for M+ and sin will be dog tier
glass mortar
zeross when he can just yap at people with no reason to back it up
find me the class where specs arent in alphebetical order or the newest spec isnt the last in the tab (aug)
i'll wait
mighty pivot
no, silly, they are also reordering th alphabet
glass mortar
u literally talked about how op ai is the other day
and yet u believe that picture is 100% real
????
wintry solar
no, silly, they are also reordering th alphabet
It's cheaper that way
glass mortar
i even said i do think a void themed dh is coming, doesnt change that i think that pic is fake
mighty pivot
and yet u believe that picture is 100% real
rigid basin
glass mortar
everyone knows the void themed dh is going to float around permanently and be unable to equip a boot slot
restive charm
when germans play "roughs"
glass mortar
civic void
wtf is that gif
wintry solar
Tf does it look like?
glass mortar
well i pretend to know everything but i believe it is alleria on a alliance themed bike mount doing a drive by licking of xals toes
ive been wrong before tho
jolly geyser
glass mortar
i get all these things from my friends in the priest discord they are very very normal about anything related to xal
extremely normal one might say
mighty pivot
it's my friends guys I swear
glass mortar
i mean u think i made this gif?
glass mortar
i'll take those props thats way more then i am capable of doing with models and animation
civic void
well you know everything so i believe you could make it ...
glass mortar
!!!
mighty pivot
no you probably looked up stuff online 
glass mortar
ew
if getting a gif in discord is more effort then clicking the star in the corner when i see it somewhere then its already too much effort for me
mighty pivot
after your 4 hour voidussy feet research
red zinc
they always reuse spells
they reuse icons for mobs/items/boss spells
but ive never seen two diff classes with same icons
glass mortar
theres lots of datamined voice lines from xal next patch floating around in priest discord also
rigid basin
i get all these things from my friends in the priest discord they are very very ...
Priest obsessing over xalatoes tracks ngl
glass mortar
they r quite excited
cinder relic
but ive never seen two diff classes with same icons
I swear there has to be a few
rigid basin
They love their knifu
red zinc
im trying to think
cinder relic
Isn't ar icon also a shadow priest icon
keen belfry
hunter
vivid vessel
are warriors icons
keen belfry
MM hunter has a lot of outlaw
red zinc
regardless if they reuse they aint rotating the spell 45 degrees
theyd just reuse it straight up
glass mortar
i dont think any icon is fully reused
languid juniper
if the void DH is real and is named "entropy" then doesn't that conflict with the high energy class fantasy
glass mortar
i think some are very similar tho
keen belfry
man MM hunter is like half other specs icons
cinder relic
vivid vessel
ambush is a warrior spell
cinder relic
The spell icon for ar is called shadow word dominate
vivid vessel
bf aswell
glass mortar
they do little artsy stuff to make it look different but they reuse the base art i think
vivid vessel
gs is a warlock thing
red zinc
nah yalls right
im thinking of a few now
but still
they dont rotate shit
so that ones just fake
doesnt mean the 3rd spec isnt real
glass mortar
The spell icon for ar is called shadow word dominate
thats not a spell that priests have ever had tho
sounds more like a priest npc ability
vivid vessel
half the talents icons are also reused fully
keen belfry
look at hunter tree
fossil lintel
Why make new icon when old icon do trick?
civic zephyr
why make new built in addon when old addon do trick :o
glass mortar
they might reuse assets from old spells, what spells currently use the same tho?
jolly geyser
Why say many word when few work
civic zephyr
itss just blizzard thing
edgy phoenix
bte icon 🙏
glass mortar
zac said ambush. ambush has the same icon as herioc strike which warriors havent had in like 2 expansions right?
maybe they get it while leveling still and every spec replaces it? i havent leveled a fresh warrior in awhile
vivid vessel
bf is also a warrior spell
edgy phoenix
nah but bte icon being 2004 green gun icon
vivid vessel
zac said ambush. ambush has the same icon as herioc strike which warriors havent...
also are we talking talents aswell
rigid basin
Gun 
glass mortar
uh no im talking about active abilities ud bind on ur bar
cinder relic
thats not a spell that priests have ever had tho
I've never played shadow so idk
glass mortar
who cares about talents and passives
theres like 5000000 of those thingies
id expect them to recycle stuffs
edgy phoenix
flip image and change color 
vivid vessel
fossil lintel
Why say many word when few work
jolly geyser
Thats how it went
glass mortar
damn these are like all warrior spells too
jolly geyser
Never watched the office
glass mortar
is warrior just a recycled class
its got some rogue tooltips there, some shaman, some druid
vivid vessel
damn these are like all warrior spells too
aawell thats cause i logged on a warrior
edgy phoenix
isnt like fury spec icon paladin spell
fossil lintel
Then we learn there's only about 15 spell icons total and they just reuse them on all classes
glass mortar
i mean if u make a macro u know they have a fuckton of spell icons
im a little surprised how many are reused, but all these spells are also old af
so maybe they just never bothered to replace them since people got used to them
fossil lintel
Maybe you just didn't notice but it's actually the same 15 icons looped
glass mortar
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
cinder relic
who cares about talents and passives
Yeah I mean idc lol
vivid vessel
i think its common on old specs
new specs dont have these overlaps
like monk
i never noticed spells
that were reused
i think its all originial icons
its prolly similar for dh
and evoker
cinder relic
Probably true
cinder relic
Common Zac L
glass mortar
ya im surprised that got thru
i think ur probably right newer classes and abilities probably have almost zero of these
they dont really reuse stuff in modern wow, all these abilities r pretty old and they probably dont wanna change icons just to not reuse
when people have gotten used to them
glass mortar
its ok
civic void
landslide from evoker is reused while being the newest class but it's def rarer
vivid vessel
glass mortar
evoker is stolen valor from shaman, druid and mage all at the same time so
violet ferry
I found KS’s old icon
glass mortar
shoulda taken icons from all of them smh
lucid sandal
If my main class had metamorphosis at some point and it was removed to give it to the tren addicted adhd gymbro class I would be pissed
glass mortar
pre legion demo lock was one of the best designed casters theyve ever made. i was so sad when they shot it dead
violet ferry
Pandaria lock was peak gaming
glass mortar
cant wait to play it again in pandaria 🤤
that and what else i havent decided
pandarias the only expac i didnt play so i dont know how rogue played during it but it feels silly to play the same thing in classic im playing in retail
vivid vessel
civic zephyr
zac just running through alts now trynna find em all
low gazelle
I mean isn’t that icon from W3? I don’t think it’s about looking good so much as throwbacks to before.
edgy phoenix
r u fr
vivid vessel
yes
edgy phoenix
old blunderbussy icon
rigid basin
I hope they change the KS icon to match the change
civic zephyr
thats the best blunderbussy to you smh
glass mortar
ks deserves a new icon since its a completely different spell
vivid vessel
i love ks icon tho
civic zephyr
also they need to fix KS before they release that shit
vivid vessel
fucking absolute banger icon
rigid basin
I like it too, but it's guns now :p
edgy phoenix
whats the knockback hunter spell icon
civic zephyr
idc about the icon at all, i care about it being functional
edgy phoenix
this one legit new ks
rigid basin
I'm about to start blasting (hit sword icon)
violet ferry
I'm about to start blasting (hit sword icon)
You smell faintly of P99…
proven ocean
@vivid vessel wanna do double outlaw keys
rigid basin
You smell faintly of P99…
LMAO
proven ocean
i wanna test out my dmg
rigid basin
I've been caught
proven ocean
just pug keys
vivid vessel
nah not rn ross
proven ocean
can do later or?
vivid vessel
imma play in a bit with team
proven ocean
ok ok
violet ferry
I've been caught
I KNEW IT
proven ocean
i feel like i play well but if mechanics happen i cant adjust well
need to practice maybe
violet ferry
LOOOOOOL yessssss
red zinc
bro
i keep getting into these hybrid comps with udk for cinderbrew
And they do the LOS strat for failed batches
And we always get a charge on the exact spot
i swear we can just kill the failed batches 
proven ocean
zac
vivid vessel
and we juist kill them
proven ocean
i love outlaw
violet ferry
Outlussy
proven ocean
play magent
ye i am, play this song i like https://open.spotify.com/track/1DOzG1q9CCUOtL2U1UrlCd?si=49c2a6e02df9492a
vivid vessel
so cool
red zinc
buh
prisma vessel
LOL
vivid vessel
ye
vale warren
outlaw is so much fun on xav
Kidney shot on vault keys>>>>
keen belfry
i see a world we play trickster in m+ and fatebound in raid
keen belfry
i wonder if they are trying to have a hero tree for each set of content
would be cool IMO
rigid basin
I cloak people's abilities lol
hybrid crown
😮
proven ocean
he got perma banned
this is me without context
well
his pc got hacked
and the hacker used his discord
prisma vessel
thats crazy.
violet ferry
I just want to pop Duelist discipline every 45 minutes and backstab a dragon more than twice in a row without it turning
chilly atlas
hacker used his discord to phish more didn't they?
civic zephyr
hacker used his discord to phish more didn't they?
while we are on the topic, can you install this 100% safe zip for my new game
chilly atlas
sure, i'll be happy to review it for you
rigid basin
You got a passion project too?
prisma vessel
so i saw the new killing spree.
civic zephyr
lmao
prisma vessel
thats all i got.
mighty pivot
they should've used this one for BTE
civic zephyr
thats all i got.
thats all blizz had too
keen belfry
so i saw the new killing spree.
its close to being good, they will fix by .2
huge dub to not die during it
civic zephyr
lower cast time, make it focus main target rather than random
and it think its fine
prisma vessel
yee
keen belfry
IMO cast time and anything that makes it better to stop the channel needs to be addressed
it should blast, not waste cps, and be a little quicker IMO
and they will increase its CDR and dmg basically confirmed
rigid basin
they should've used this one for BTE
But it's pointed at his nose
violet ferry
mighty pivot
well the nose is between the eyes
civic zephyr
IMO cast time and anything that makes it better to stop the channel needs to be ...
agreed
proven ocean
@vivid vessel
thats where we depleted on +20
my dmg good no?
no warrior too
no dwarf
didnt abuse the wep too
was kinda just locked in
will fix wep later
i need a icon to show what wep im wearing
glass mortar
i use different colored enchants because ive been to lazy to get a WA for it
abstract frost
how many snd bug abuse did you send that run? @proven ocean
abstract frost
proven ocean
how many snd bug abuse did you send that run? <@1172550924519080006>
alot
abstract frost
pog
vivid vessel
I dont think thats the same spot
vivid vessel
we all have 1 bil less
abstract frost
mine disapears every time for some reason
vivid vessel
damage
abstract frost
skill issue
vivid vessel
1 key level up
vivid vessel
i mean how can we have 1 bil less every player
in a 1 key level higher tho
that doesnt work no ?
red zinc
He did a few pulls more
red zinc
But yours didnt update yet on that screenshot
proven ocean
ye
after that pull
we depleted zc
monksea made it, our tank didnt
im not lying zac idk why u think i am
vivid vessel
we are still 1 bil under in a 21 vs 20 tho
proven ocean
i honestly dont know
why my dmg is same as u
in overall dmg
cuz
we depleted there
vivid vessel
no i just mean we have less billis tho
red zinc
zinc
vivid vessel
how does that track
red zinc
your meter is on overall not dynamic overall
proven ocean
red zinc
Its missing total damage
civic zephyr
need more billiss
vivid vessel
tim bro he sent the other screenshot aswell
there is no missing damage
its one key level
aboe
you realize that right
you do more billis
with one key above
vivid vessel
is this big
proven ocean
if i knew i'd tell you
vivid vessel
i got new router
proven ocean
cuz
we did 1.5 pulls more than u
that sounds about correct to me
mayeb u guys cc'ed the adds on gorechop
we never cc'ed
vivid vessel
we do but i doubt that matters
proven ocean
i mean idk what ur trying to say here
like im faking my overall or someshit
i know i do it sometimes
vivid vessel
im jhust saying i dont think this is the same part since we are behind in billi in a + 1 key which makes no sense
no
proven ocean
this time aint it
vivid vessel
who nkow
proven ocean
idk
vivid vessel
well idk just send overalls of a key anyway
proven ocean
ye
will do
oh btw
our xav was long
maybe thats why
i always went down
me and the other outlaw
so we lost AR uptime
abit
proven ocean
ye
proven ocean
but outlaw is as good up too
vivid vessel
even tho it sucks
prisma vessel
is this big
thats alot, i only get like 800 up and down.
