and read the fucking ability
#outlaw
vivid vessel
errant terrace
ITS NOT TPING ME AROUND ANYMORE
cedar kernel
is this a real rework or fake
haughty wigeon
oOUT LAW GOOD
errant terrace
I'll take it
vivid vessel
outlaw casting a 5sec channel
proven ocean
@vivid vessel login noob
gilded karma
Ur reaper now
cedar kernel
does it makes like the Survive hunters skill?
proven ocean
zac
icy cedar
bro it won't suicide me
vivid vessel
you motherfuckers
alpine valve
Offtopic question. Theres an WA for stun roation. Do you know which wa this is?
vivid vessel
then idc
haughty wigeon
killign spree IS GOOD NOW
wind aurora
thank u jesus
cedar kernel
does ptr need gametime
red zinc
ptr isnt up yet
im confused
cedar kernel
or not
patent mirage
opal raven
??
cedar kernel
i am ready to login ptr
upper pagoda
FUCKING YES
red zinc
idk for sure man
still matrix
Ks is an aoe gunfire now?
red zinc
im copying char rn
proven ocean
?
icy cedar
can we complain that the new killing spree is problematic and promotes gun violence?
random stirrup
outlaw casting a 5sec channel
you can walk while doing it at least
novel socket
is this a real rework or fake
its datamine from ptr
frank finch
everyone hold
vivid vessel
bro
mighty pivot
surely they will rename/reicon KS to something else if it is going to be shooting guns
frank finch
HOLD
frank finch
this could be bad
cedar kernel
its datamine from ptr
thats insane
vivid vessel
the ability that everyone hates
cinder relic
WE ARE SO BACK
red zinc
!!
cinder relic
WE HAVE NEVER BEEN SO BACK
vivid vessel
5s cast
patent mirage
there we go
haughty wigeon
DUDE ITS PTR
vivid vessel
thats the most dogshit rework
haughty wigeon
just say its to long in forums
vivid vessel
i have ever seen
vivid vessel
5s cast
haughty wigeon
"hey this is to long reduce it pls" blizzard goes okay
still matrix
Stop complaining yet they changed it!
haughty wigeon
and its now back to og cast time
frank finch
what if we can cast other shit during it tho
fathom bramble
a potential 5 second channel is too long though
cinder relic
mighty pivot
5s is perfect to take a sip of your chocymilk
vivid vessel
brother i would rather
vale warren
getting on the contrarian bandwagon early
haughty wigeon
vivid vessel
press normal killing spree
cedar kernel
i think we cant
vivid vessel
that cast
cold jewel
KILLING SPREE REWORKED
vivid vessel
for 5 s
trail galleon
https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-overwatch-league-gladiators-gladiator-los-angel...
pls pin these gifs
haughty wigeon
https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-overwatch-league-gladiators-gladiator-los-angel...
IM SO HAPPY
tired compass
shuriken storm
you mean tornado?
vale warren
one day you will all know im right
red zinc
ok its not stationary
gilded karma
Macroing /y DIE DIE DIE into Killing Spree now!!!!
faint ferry
CITY BOYS
vivid vessel
its fucking shuriken tornado
patent mirage
the day is here
vivid vessel
r1 hated spell
patent mirage
when our sins have been absolved
craggy barn
wait
red zinc
@proven ocean its up
proven ocean
@vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel
red zinc
vivid vessel
zeross
patent mirage
im downloading ptr as we speak
edgy phoenix
purple raid
proven ocean
cinder relic
patent mirage
pin the ks change
craggy barn
sullen wyvern
Shouldn't haste reduce ks casting speed?
vale warren
is this so you can use it with coup up and not have to much an unseen blade getting combo points back
patent mirage
POG
red zinc
its a slowed channel
mighty pivot
beginning my KS channel guys, see you in 5min
cedar kernel
idk will it be like this skill or fist of fury for new KS
frank finch
can u cast during it
fathom bramble
can you grapple or anything during it?
cedar kernel
red zinc
doesnt seem like it
cinder relic
can u cancel aura it?
frank finch
oh no
proven ocean
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
royal ermine
bro the animation of killing spree
patent mirage
btw it looks like we stay as trickster right
royal ermine
cedar kernel
brothers pls show me its anime
lone crow
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
haughty wigeon
cedar kernel
i need information
edgy phoenix
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
this one more for u
haughty wigeon
WE GOT IT CHANGED WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER
dense forge
edgy phoenix
jewerly seems fine
patent mirage
lets goooo
old gull
bro the animation of killing spree
Please telll me its not trash
cedar kernel
https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-overwatch-league-gladiators-gladiator-los-angel...
guy i think dante's shotting will more like the skill i guess
thorny zinc
surely one of u famous celebrity outlaw players will stream ptr right
red zinc
killing spree on other mobs just insta cancels
im so confused
it full channels when im not around mobs
but when im nearby it insta cancels
indigo pelican
someone make a video of it 😭
sullen wyvern
Are u on ptr
frank finch
edgy phoenix
u can move now during ks
patent mirage
im logging ptr now
edgy phoenix
lmao
faint ferry
ewww
sullen wyvern
Have fun guys
smoky venture
What did they rework killing spree?
craggy barn
ye
vivid vessel
nvm the animation is so cool
patent mirage
Coup de Grace may now be activated a second time within 5 sec, dealing 100% of normal damage. this bonus damn
frank finch
we back?
cinder relic
WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
red zinc
its kinda hype
sullen wyvern
Now im happy and idc about losing our current tier set bonuses
frank finch
is it hasted?
royal ermine
Please telll me its not trash
fathom bramble
is it hasted?
yes
haughty wigeon
but when im nearby it insta cancels
prob bug
frank finch
haughty wigeon
HOLY SHIT ITS
edgy phoenix
gg
grave rose
Hey im in that
haughty wigeon
SO COOL
patent mirage
POOOGG
faint ferry
BOOOOOOOM
vivid vessel
it still is way too long
cedar kernel
HOLY FUCK
vivid vessel
you overcap a ton of cp
cedar kernel
HOLY FUCK
vivid vessel
so idk
old gull
This made my day idc fuck yea man
sullen wyvern
Can you actually cast other stuff while pressing it? Or where those just autos animations?
frank finch
@glass mortar @daring oxide 
vivid vessel
you can grapple during it @fathom bramble
serene gate
rework of KS 
edgy phoenix
third boss bis outlaw neck 
sullen wyvern
Ok
frank finch
def spells?
royal ermine
Can you actually cast other stuff while pressing it? Or where those just autos a...
autos pressing anything else cancels it
past falcon
oh my god
vivid vessel
brooo
hollow temple
@vivid vessel can finally quit
frank finch
oh no
fathom bramble
you can evasion, sprint, cloak, grapple, but not kick
vivid vessel
we just low cp ks idk
haughty wigeon
we can probably add that to feedback
hollow temple
isn't eye beam like that
haughty wigeon
yes
haughty wigeon
its like eyebeam
fathom bramble
well kick has no GCD
haughty wigeon
cept you can move with ks
lone crow
kicking cancel it
they for sure gonna change that
haughty wigeon
and not with eyebeam
fathom bramble
technically you can move with eyebeam
vivid vessel
idk
lone crow
surely
hollow temple
idk
lone crow
surely
grave rose
Remember everyone, Zac hates everything lol
haughty wigeon
ye
hollow temple
it looks like KS and eyebeam usee the same logic
can you not move during the new ks?
cedar kernel
my outlaw spirit is rising
cinder relic
WE WON
cedar kernel
holy crap
austere arch
THE BATTLE IS OVERR
fathom bramble
can you not move during the new ks?
you can
same as eyebeam
it's just the slow on KS is 25%
and eyebeam is likee 99
icy cedar
Can move and use some travel and defensive abilities while channeling, but movement is slowed by 20%. ahhhhh yisssss
hollow temple
not bad
peak crow
can you not move during the new ks?
u can, there's a small slow effect applied but u can move
frank finch
vale warren
THE BATTLE IS OVERR
its only just begun
hollow temple
icic
hard ether
thats a good cook
mossy shell
WHY ARE THEY TAKING KILLING SPREE FROM ME
celest cobalt
KS change looks DOPE AF
mossy shell
MY LOVE
stuck sparrow
i mean if you can hook during how much does a 20% movespeed loss matter
red zinc
wait this is just house of cards
mossy shell
DAMN YOU BLIZZARD
red zinc
lmao
hollow temple
if it's 5sec channel it does seem a bit long for kick to break the channel, but its still a huge improvement
cedar kernel
ok i must say rogue dev is very good at this KS rework
edgy phoenix
whys rogue mythic set on fire
mossy shell
Nooooooooiooo
red zinc
if it's 5sec channel it does seem a bit long for kick to break the channel, but ...
it does still get hasted of course
wicked ether
old gull
The flavor of killing spree is
haughty wigeon
u can, there's a small slow effect applied but u can move
ty for making ks cool realz
icy cedar
u can, there's a small slow effect applied but u can move
small request can we get an Andor reference somewhere in a talent tree, since he's the most famous Rogue in the country right now
frank finch
does sprint negate the new ks slow
red zinc
wouldn't 7 cp at baseline be 3.5s
supercharger
haughty wigeon
4.5 seconds
haughty wigeon
wait no
fathom bramble
supercharger means you can hit 5s base duration
haughty wigeon
5 seconds ya
vale warren
if they bring back coup bug it's 7.5s
red zinc
its 5 base
vocal palm
oof
indigo token
no more killing spree
cedar kernel
i must enter the PTR to check
minor cedar
bright crane
KS is nightmare is over
serene gate
no more killing spree
and more pew pew pew
minor cedar
uuuge
cedar kernel
its so good that i am living at a euro timezone in China
vivid vessel
its way too long of a channel for outlaw tho ..
bright crane
Somebody send realz a gift card
vivid vessel
and like
serene gate
i'm gonna cry of joy 
mossy shell
More like outlaw is over
icy cedar
listen
vivid vessel
thats 1/4 of adr
mossy shell
Boooo
vivid vessel
thats crazy no ?
icy cedar
what if it's optimal to not finish the cast
open jasper
i liked KS 
random stirrup
imagine outlaw ever got this
serene gate
i liked KS <:peeposcared:879405496199704607>
hard frost
is channeling can be interupt/silence ?
old gull
Someone test if it breaks roots
gaunt phoenix
oh jesus
mighty pivot
the cp generation on KS is weird because it gives more than the max cp you can have and you cannot spend them during the channel
mossy shell
Killing spree is FUN
lone crow
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
xdddddddddddddddddddddddd
indigo token
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
austere arch
Is ptr out or?
cedar kernel
yes
vale warren
what if it's optimal to not finish the cast
we probably just use on low cp if adr is running out
austere arch
Ty
proven ocean
LOLOLOLOLOL
austere arch
Banned from ptr
proven ocean
@lone crow NO FUCKING WAY @dense forge
GOMASERPL;GTK'REASDM,GAREOIKPL;MGAER'GMKRW
BRO
SIN
WILL BE
CRAZY
IN M+
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
4 SECONDS KINGSBANE
indigo token
<@194111690835623937> NO FUCKING WAY <@229386660326932481>
this is the outlaw channel
proven ocean
AND 50% INCREASED EFFECTIVENESS ON DEATHMARK
hollow temple
hollow temple
calm down
proven ocean
cedar kernel
this is outlaw channel
icy cedar
i ain't playing Ass if KS doesn't kill me no more
tawdry linden
Killing spree is FIXED! WOOO
edgy phoenix
SERVERS DOWN?
lone crow
<@194111690835623937> NO FUCKING WAY <@229386660326932481>
bro that trinket on assa + kb 4 sec longer with 10% increased dmg sounds insane
lmao
vapid sundial
that 2pc
vapid sundial
seems like absolutely dogshit?
proven ocean
this will be crazy
vapid sundial
for outlaw?
vapid sundial
or am i crazy
proven ocean
outlaw is so fucking dead
edgy phoenix
df ks window back?
proven ocean
iits insane
vapid sundial
nah but
surreal flower
sin will have crazy burst
720 ilvl gonna be hitting the 100m envenom crit
edgy phoenix
assa pi target
vapid sundial
vivid vessel
its funny
old gull
Double coup
cinder relic
They made the bug core
vivid vessel
They made the bug core <:HOLY:1250893440183570533>
told you it was banger gameplay
mighty pivot
rogue has literally one change btw
gaunt phoenix
the evil is defeated
cinder relic
Rogue doesn't need a lot of changes
indigo token
rogue has literally one change btw <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
yeah but
indigo token
no more KS
vapid sundial
so
vapid sundial
you might be
having to tab target gs???
vivid vessel
like there is no way or
vapid sundial
or what
void canopy
gg trickster?
vapid sundial
looking at 4pc
silver sluice
Killing SPREE is guns blazing now
haughty wigeon
silver sluice
Hell yeah
proven ocean
@lone crow wait wtf those tiersets are tied to hero talents
random stirrup
you lose 5s of adr
you have infinite with double coup anyway
haughty wigeon
ks not shit anymore
proven ocean
no way
indigo token
<@194111690835623937> wait wtf those tiersets are tied to hero talents
yeah
haughty wigeon
i love it
cinder relic
double coup is a lot of added CDR
silver sluice
We pew pew for real
cinder relic
KS also refunds ur CDR too
cinder relic
I mean this in the least inflamitory way possible zac, but u predict this every single tier and it ends up fine
random stirrup
playing early season with just LD wasnt horrible
cinder relic
U just gotta have faith
haughty wigeon
cinder relic
KS being changed is awesome
bright crane
Wait but Zac KS is effectively a channeled spell already no?
cinder relic
New trickster set seems cool af
silver sluice
KS being changed is awesome
Yes
bright crane
So what’s the real diff ?
jolly geyser
its reaper
cinder relic
It also refunds combo points
thorny zinc
also 25% dmg increase though right
red zinc
uh oh
haughty wigeon
red zinc
this trinket is a little broken
cinder relic
Its also giving u full CP zac
patent mirage
the set is actual double coup
vivid vessel
Its also giving u full CP zac
yeye true true
bright crane
Bro fuck it
indigo token
can this guy go fuck himself
tight kernel
SOFTCAP AOE WHEN
bright crane
Already sounds better than current KS
mighty pivot
surfing emoji guy 
turbid fog
🏄♀️ 🏄
bright crane
I’ll take it
vale warren
SOFTCAP AOE WHEN
Fuck soft cap give us no cap
indigo token
Fuck soft cap give us no cap
haughty wigeon
🏄♂️
mighty pivot
who KSed the world server
cobalt mist
shut lichen
nvm it still needs some oven time
astral wind
Quickly popping over to outlaw channel to check if Zac has creamed at the change?
vivid vessel
Quickly popping over to outlaw channel to check if Zac has creamed at the change...
im unsure
i like it
the animation
is good
tulip quarry
MOFO Trolls ...
proven ocean
deserter in lfg
vivid vessel
but the channel is wayyyy too long
fathom bramble
it's definitely much better than KS ever was
indigo token
Quickly popping over to outlaw channel to check if Zac has creamed at the change...
my pants are soaked
vivid vessel
its 5s at max cp
tulip quarry
Was a bug yeah yeah
frank finch
another mage rework huh
fossil lintel
wait, changes are out
astral wind
its 5s at max cp
we can move during it though so hopefully the dam is good enough to justify
frank finch
nvm thats frost dk
bright crane
MOFO Trolls ...
Not even - we all liked double coup and now they’re giving it back to us legitimately
astral wind
I guess it's anti-synergistic though with outlaw as it's downtime on restless
vivid vessel
@proven ocean are you in game
cedar kernel
i am ready
mighty pivot
ye 11.2 is dead already
cedar kernel
i decide to upgrade my charactor to 80 then try this thing
mighty pivot
oh i'm in
indigo token
i am ready
this is my first time on PTR, can I import my hotbar and keybindings from live to ptr
proven ocean
<@1172550924519080006> are you in game
its broken for everyone zac
gaunt phoenix
it's 5s if you supercharge it, also probably hasted
unique echo
hmm actually as i looked over the animation i kinda like the new ks
bright crane
It says it is hasted
cedar kernel
this is my first time on PTR, can I import my hotbar and keybindings from live t...
idk like things changing so idk
mighty pivot
KS is hasted yes
vivid vessel
its 1s more than old i guess
mighty pivot
it was 3.xish
astral wind
Wait it says it's 0.5 baseline and reduced by haste
hasty warren
trikster set look wild
astral wind
Surely that means it'll be decently fast in reality?
patent mirage
fixed ks , double coup what else
tulip quarry
Am i the only one that find it troll to see that the 4P bonus for Tricket outlaw is the double coup usage ..............
gaunt phoenix
"troll" i guess
gaunt phoenix
but it's a cool effect that we wanted
cinder oxide
yeah double coup was bis and its been rightfully returned imo
keen belfry
i cant believe they did it
cedar kernel
yea
fossil lintel
Striking random enemies
cedar kernel
we was the only one spec that can do double coup
fossil lintel
damn that shit looks like shit
fossil lintel
Can we get KS back?
mighty pivot
blizz with double coup
unique echo
Striking random enemies
i mean current ks also strikes random enemies
so i guess same shit
mossy shell
All they had to do was make killing spree a little safer, buff the stagger etc. but instead they strip its identity to appease the cowardssss 😭😭😭😭😭
serene gate
tbh as long we can move while KS i dont care
fossil lintel
KS strikes your current target, no?
chilly karma
I just saw mention of the killing spree change when does it go live
dense bridge
All they had to do was make killing spree a little safer, buff the stagger etc. ...
what kind of identity is "if you press this button you will likely die"
fossil lintel
Yeah, we're losing a ton of prio damage with this shit
astral wind
I just saw mention of the killing spree change when does it go live
11.2
keen belfry
i cant beleive they did it
red zinc
ross look at the healer trinket from 2nd boss
unique echo
its not random rn
aight my bad then
red zinc
so op
bright crane
Yeah dude KS currently fuckin sucks. Any opinion that current KS is fun is a wrong opinion
fossil lintel
all they needed to do was not teleport us around and let us move
fathom bramble
All they had to do was make killing spree a little safer, buff the stagger etc. ...
no matter how much the stagger is buffed KS would still be awful
astral wind
Someone @ me when they get the new KS animation in a clip
tulip quarry
I will miss it being flurried though
dense bridge
they should have just made it like blade dance or something
keen belfry
Randomly strikes
i think its just like
frail veldt
All they had to do was make killing spree a little safer, buff the stagger etc. ...
Bad take
dense bridge
this is a fine change though
frail veldt
Stagger is irrelevant
cedar kernel
huh
keen belfry
channeled shooting at target
proven ocean
ross look at the healer trinket from 2nd boss
dc'ed what does it do?
timber knoll
KSPREE REWORK WE WIN
vapid sundial
what is the rework
strong halo
how bad is doing keys with arcane mages? arent we both target capped?
red zinc
dc'ed what does it do?
fathom bramble
maybe it should/could be random only when BF is active
red zinc
the rework makes ti even worse
can you log onto ptr before complaining
fathom bramble
just to give us so control over not hitting targets that don't matter
red zinc
its alot better lmao
sinful pendant
new ks is a ranged ability that unloads on the enemy now?
frail veldt
The fact that it restores cps is interesting
fossil lintel
frail veldt
Sounds fun
fossil lintel
For people asking
frail veldt
And visually cool
frank finch
talks that this is raid wide buff for dk
cold falcon
can you log onto ptr before complaining
no idk how to get there
dense bridge
i was hoping for a more profound rework or changes for outlaw but i guess this is a good step forward
old gull
The fact that it restores cps is interesting
Bit more dmg, might be kinda slick in PvP if you can isolate someone
strong halo
so should i not do keys with arcane mages?
vapid sundial
even if its 'worse'
frail veldt
Bit more dmg, might be kinda slick in PvP if you can isolate someone
Yeah potentially
remote pecan
we're getting double coup after they fixed it pretty quickly?
frail veldt
But interruptable
fossil lintel
Yeah doesn't move you but takes a lot longer and doesn't prio
remote pecan
trolling?
frail veldt
Cuz channel
hollow temple
talks that this is raid wide buff for dk
🤡
vapid sundial
Yeah doesn't move you but takes a lot longer and doesn't prio
i think that is fine.
It's better than it randomly killing you
red zinc
@vivid vessel
light fossil
is it gonna be like a Samira ult from lol?
tulip quarry
i think that is fine.
It's better than it randomly killing you
And it is not flurried anymore
haughty wigeon
talks that this is raid wide buff for dk
means nothing
you still take bdk to raid
fossil lintel
I guess it builds at least
cinder oxide
i was hoping for a more profound rework or changes for outlaw but i guess this i...
aside from current KS outlaw feels really good.. what else do you want changed?
edgy phoenix
is server up?
fossil lintel
So you don't need to use another builder
sinful pendant
reaper from overwatch?
dense bridge
aside from current KS outlaw feels really good.. what else do you want changed?
id like it if our mastery wasnt crap
fossil lintel
But it'll probably be some degenerate shit where you don't want to supercharge it or just cancel the rest once you're at 7cp
tight kernel
its 1s more than old i guess
Zac with new animation can you move freely? Also can you cancel aura or something?
dense bridge
choice node for thistle tea
fossil lintel
i think that is fine.
It's better than it randomly killing you
it takes 5 seconds if you max cp supercharge it
dense bridge
thats all i can really think of that i would like to see changed
fathom bramble
it's a channel, you can cancel it by pressing any other offensive spell
you can move with a 25% slow
cinder relic
i procced lucky coin in like 20 seconds
Think its guarenteed in some way, thats what whispyrs pin is alluding to
vapid sundial
it takes 5 seconds if you max cp supercharge it
Idk seems better to me
fathom bramble
you can grapple/sprint and use defensives without canceling it, but kick does cancel
tight kernel
It being cancellable actually makes it better imo
old gull
It also looks fuckin cool
red zinc
Think its guarenteed in some way, thats what whispyrs pin is alluding to
it should be easier for us to guarantee than them
but idk
fossil lintel
If I wanted to wait 5 our of every 20 seconds I would play ass
fathom bramble
to be fair it's not 5
old gull
Coup and new ks very flavorful, big fan
fathom bramble
at normal haste values it's 4 with supercharger
jolly geyser
zac got fucking ryu in his chat
vapid sundial
i assume its hasted
cinder relic
Edge Case now flips an additional Fatebound Coin and activating Ghostly Strike triggers its effect.
jolly geyser
fossil lintel
It's 5 / 1.25, sure
fathom bramble
and most of the timee you won't be casting it with SC either
timid portal
Blizzard cooking
fossil lintel
so 4 secs
fathom bramble
most of the time it's 3 seconds
cedar kernel
i am done, i dont have 80 level charactor in global server
hollow coyote
so KS is basically Reaper's ultimate from overwatch
vapid sundial
most of the time it's 3 seconds
So the only real problem with it is it not prio / not flurrying?
shut lichen
world server down sadge
rapid spoke
I'm hyped for KS change
bright crane
so KS is basically Reaper's ultimate from overwatch
That’s what I thought too
fathom bramble
who said it doesn't flurry?
vapid sundial
someon above
fathom bramble
it flurries fine
red zinc
Edge Case now flips an additional Fatebound Coin and activating Ghostly Strike t...
should be really easy to get with cold blood maybe ?
candid moon
Ive come to see the spam on the new BF o.o
vapid sundial
DIsinformation in outlaw
hollow coyote
how do you know it doesn't spin
red zinc
I think some degeneracy can take place
vapid sundial
I am shocked and appaled
hollow coyote
have you seen the animation
red zinc
to proc a shitton of lucky coins
sinful pendant
ok is it unloading your clip, or is it you spinning in a circle shooting everyone in 8 yards
red zinc
no clue if itll be powerful enough to beat trickster
red zinc
severe grove
What's new
fathom bramble
you point at the randomly selected target and shoot them
if there is enough guys around it might feel like spinning
hollow coyote
eh
hollow coyote
missed oppurtinity
sinful pendant
that animation looks so stupid
like stand still and unload, what are you waving your arms around for
fathom bramble
it's because KS is still triggering MG
so it interupted the animation with another one
candid moon
can you move during the channel? looks like youre stutterstepping
vapid sundial
HAHAHAH
mossy shell
I am afraid of change
red zinc
yall really always got something to complain about idk
mossy shell
Can they rework killing spree to halt the passage of time
red zinc
like the doom era of outlaw last few months was funny but
they actually do something and we're still dooming
glass mortar
I mean should make it override melee animations and ur gucci
vapid sundial
How is it always something to complain about?
Bro the animation sucks
red zinc
holy hell
bright crane
Sick af
vapid sundial
'how dare you have a different opinion than me'
bright crane
I’m down with the cause
glass mortar
It does look a little silly that ur unloading and canceling ur shots to smack with melee
sinful pendant
it looks silly and impractial imo
red zinc
can you move during the channel? looks like youre stutterstepping
ye can move
glass mortar
Not hard to fix tho
red zinc
not my video
you move at 75% ms, can still grapple and what not
no offensive abilities
timber knoll
should have done a circle spinning firing the guns like neo from the matrix
cerulean radish
outlaw gets the 1 rogue change
craggy barn
is ptr down
timber knoll
owned
craggy barn
gdi
vapid sundial
you move at 75% ms, can still grapple and what not
people seem to forget we have high sprint uptime
craggy barn
let me in!
bright crane
Yeah cause KS was cancer given form
rapid spoke
absolute win, but I wonder which hero talents we gonna play with tier sets
silver sluice
I'm assuming it's hasted? So during lust it'll chan faster?
rapid spoke
both seem good tbh
fathom bramble
I'm assuming it's hasted? So during lust it'll chan faster?
yes
haughty wigeon
what is that
LMAOPOO
gaunt phoenix
empowered 
bright crane
Guys it’s literally all in the notes
jolly tapir
new KS look sick 🙂 i like it
sinful pendant
well good news is that at least you dont move your character around the area so random deaths are a thing of the past
bright crane
It’s hasted, you can move
jagged ivy
How is it always something to complain about?
Bro the animation sucks
bro the current killing spree "animation" is Ambush 4000x lol
royal hollow
we are still dooming? 
red zinc
absolute win, but I wonder which hero talents we gonna play with tier sets
fatebound looks abuseable
red zinc
trickster will be very strong regardless
craggy barn
empower1 for shit keys
red zinc
its a numbers game
vapid sundial
bro the current killing spree "animation" is Ambush 4000x lol
I never said that animation was good, but this is ugly as shit too
livid pewter
bro the current killing spree "animation" is Ambush 4000x lol
wdym aimbush is with your weapons but u use your fkin pew pew gun so its a gun barraaage
cinder relic
The animation is sos ick
timber knoll
they could make the animation me getting down and letting thrall tbag my character i do not care
frank finch
blizz is cooking
red zinc
i mean yeah honestly who cares about animations
carmine verge
new animation is insane, you're trolling if you prefer the 4000x dispatch puke combo
red zinc
i am not looking
old gull
25% dmg buff is a lot too
carmine verge
complaining right now that we're not getting a void elf racial potion in 11.2
red zinc
i wouldnt be shocked btw
vale warren
25% dmg buff is a lot too
Same damage per execute time
sinful pendant
https://www.wowhead.com/news/all-players-have-access-to-shadowmeld-in-season-3-m...
alright i am gonna spec alchemy
red zinc
if cancelling this ks is the ideal strategy
livid pewter
there is no fkin way u complain about new ks lmao u get like full cp and dont die anymore how can that be a complain angle
vale warren
I think
rapid spoke
https://www.wowhead.com/news/all-players-have-access-to-shadowmeld-in-season-3-m...
inb4 they'll put stealth detection on like 90% mobs
shut lichen
they fully annihilated frost dk's playstyle
idk about annhilated
old gull
Same damage per execute time
Ah the channel length that makes sense
sinful pendant
there is no fkin way u complain about new ks lmao u get like full cp and dont di...
the animation looks silly imo, but the effect is perfect
fathom bramble
there is no fkin way u complain about new ks lmao u get like full cp and dont di...
idk some people actually liked KS and/or hate the gun aesthetically
they should probably play warrior instead of this
red zinc
im thinking whether you'd even want to use KS for its duration with this new tier
frank finch
damn raid testing schedule is out to
sinful pendant
and i love blunderbusses and pistols
frank finch
we getting flooded
red zinc
like coup farming might be the play
vapid sundial
there is no fkin way u complain about new ks lmao u get like full cp and dont di...
The complain angle is the animation
thats literally it
queen forge
is new killing spree with 7cp 2.1sec or 3.5sec?
bright crane
Gonna be us now
unkempt smelt
god tier pew pew
carmine verge
needs good sfx and needs just a fix on some of the pew pew frames, other than that, it's perfect
shut lichen
The complain angle is the animation
i thought it was a spin but this looks like ur just ghetto blasting randomly
remote pecan
nice try but the movement speed reduction gives us the same problem as now just from the opposite perspective.
livid pewter
The complain angle is the animation
well u cant hit everyones taste, i love the animation
unkempt smelt
nice try but the movement speed reduction gives us the same problem as now just ...
wdym
mighty pivot
Breaking Vanish with a trinket will not grant Subterfuge. -> this appears to be fixed. At least with ratfang and grim codex it did give subterfuge
hollow lodge
We did it?! KS is a regular ass button now?!
unkempt smelt
We did it?! KS is a regular ass button now?!
its a channeled ability now
shut lichen
nice try but the movement speed reduction gives us the same problem as now just ...
20% is like nothing
fossil lintel
We are fast as fuck usually
royal hollow
nice try but the movement speed reduction gives us the same problem as now just ...
its 20%.....just pop sprint
vivid vessel
you can just grapple anyway
remote pecan
now i gotta pair KS with sprint, probably can't use it when certain mechanics are going out for example can't use it in p1 on gallywix
unkempt smelt
20% is like nothing
of outlaw speed kek
vivid vessel
its whatever
royal hollow
people really like to complain
cinder relic
nice try but the movement speed reduction gives us the same problem as now just ...
What
red zinc
its literally an infinite ms increase from previous KS
fossil lintel
Yeah if you see you won't make it just grapple
mighty pivot
outlaw has permasprint the slow isn't an issue
bright crane
Bro people are straight up cooked
remote pecan
it's an improvement for sure i jsut dnt see any point in the movement speed reduction
cinder relic
Bro what
fathom bramble
what
cinder relic
U mfers are just finding ways to complain
fossil lintel
I just wish the channel was faster
vapid sundial
nice try but the movement speed reduction gives us the same problem as now just ...
We have perma sprint
cinder relic
Shut the fuck up!
vapid sundial
what do you mean
bright crane
Ur opinion is literally wrong
sinful pendant
literally we have talents to cancel out the MS penalty who cares
literally turns off the debuff
unkempt smelt
it's an improvement for sure i jsut dnt see any point in the movement speed redu...
it adds to the feel
livid pewter
the fact we fill CP with pressing KS is gettin me wet
carmine verge
plant your feet and fire away
bright crane
This is fuckin banger
old gull
This is fuckin banger
I love it I can’t wait I was super dooming this am too
deep cedar
can someone link the wowhead site for the ks change/
somber ridge
I am ejoying this conversation. They remove the one thing that makes outlaw kinda shit for a lot of people and make you turn into overwatch reaper ult as killing spree and people STILL complain
fathom bramble
it's an improvement for sure i jsut dnt see any point in the movement speed redu...
don't think of the moveespeeed reeduction as a penalty, it is a bonus. the alternative is a channel where you simply cannot move at all
lavish geyser
bright crane
I am ejoying this conversation. They remove the one thing that makes outlaw kind...
Perpetual victim complex
unkempt smelt
i think we finally gonna have our big button/feel good spell
bright crane
Hate to see what these people are like in real life
eager rose
do you think the next tier set will improve Fate's situation and bring it above Trickster again?
unkempt smelt
i will kinda miss the zoomies tho
somber ridge
Perpetual victim complex
I saw this youtube video where a dude was shooting some sort of assault rifle and actually couldn't walk forward cuz of the recoil, this is physics accurate
bright crane
do you think the next tier set will improve Fate's situation and bring it above ...
Unknown currently. Will likely be a numbers game
fathom bramble
do you think the next tier set will improve Fate's situation and bring it above ...
as long as trickster has the insane BF bonuses I just don't see that realistically eever happening in keys
jolly geyser
https://tenor.com/view/die-reaper-spinning-rotate-overwatch-gif-17444526
its more like fan the hammer actually
somber ridge
which is important in video games
proper bear
Is there a way to cancel KS if you're about to get yeeted while you're in it?
fossil lintel
I really like that it gives CP back so while it takes longer, it'll remove the need to build again after it. It's probably going to be terrible if we supercharge it though, since you would cap at 7 CP and not gain any further.
fathom bramble
fate would have to be infinitely far ahead in ST in order to win in keys
somber ridge
Is there a way to cancel KS if you're about to get yeeted while you're in it?
sir. its a channel. yes.
fathom bramble
you can also just grapple away mid KS
shooting guns on the move
actually sick new spell
fossil lintel
Didn't zac said he wanted this exact design a while back? 🤔
fathom bramble
many many peoplee have askeed for basically this design
ZAc is probably among them
fossil lintel
More guns, just shoot shit around you?
vivid vessel
Didn't zac said he wanted this exact design a while back? 🤔
what
no
i said the opposite
fossil lintel
You want less guns?
haughty wigeon
i said i wanted guns
vivid vessel
just not 5s channel
cinder relic
This isn't storm what
somber ridge
i said the opposite
what is the opposite of gun tornado?
fossil lintel
Yeah isn't this more guns?
proper bear
This new KS looks siiiiick
vivid vessel
This isn't storm what
channel that generate cps, well
haughty wigeon
with feedback
vivid vessel
its similar thing
cinder relic
Tornado isn't a channel
gaunt phoenix
it's fists of fury
fossil lintel
It's a finisher still though
vivid vessel
ye tornado is actually better xd
vivid vessel
helps my point so idk
fossil lintel
wrong channel ross
gaunt phoenix
how do I copy all my UI shit to ptr without it exploding
fossil lintel
we're dooming about 5s downtime here
vivid vessel
it's fists of fury
fist of fury is so much shorter
remote pecan
is the double coup 2x full cps coups with full cdr?
gaunt phoenix
Yes
vivid vessel
half of the casts are inside a cd that make it 50% cahnnel duration
so its like
1s cast
remote pecan
vivid vessel
you barely notice
cinder relic
fof is like 3s on the low end js
vivid vessel
and again you are not rewarded for spending cps
glass mortar
It scales with haste maybe haste will be our best stat
old gull
Gives the hands a break
vivid vessel
its the opposite
random stirrup
i think its criminal outlaw would end up with the longest melee cast
just wait until they up the haste cap to 50%
then KS will be plenty fast
normal aurora
i think its cast time should get reduced by haste anyway. Don't think its going to be a lot longer than current KS
fathom bramble
at the same time though it's generating like 2gcds of combo points
and you can move during it
vivid vessel
at the same time though it's generating like 2gcds of combo points
ye but i could have done without this lol
remote pecan
the channel duration is gna be pretty much the exact same as KS takes now isnt it? so nothing rly changes
vivid vessel
that doesnt make it better to play
frank finch
nah new ks feels good
vivid vessel
you still cant kick/cant kidney/cant blind
cant do any normal things
you would want to do
thorny reef
i dont like the new change to killing spree at all
vivid vessel
you know
wary bridge
somber ridge
I dont do these things anyway idk
fossil lintel
Ryu was just ahead of his time, we'll stack haste so new KS doesn't feel like crap
restive dove
what is that
yeah but all the rest of the changes look spicy 
wary bridge
this is us now
frank finch
can dh do these things during eye beam
sullen wyvern
zac how much do you think we are gonna miss the current tier set? as in being able to 5 roll more often
restive dove
as a fdk main
fathom bramble
cant do any normal things
I mean you at least have the option to end KS for it now
livid pewter
u basically end up the same cp as u hit KS
restive dove
but is there a vid of the new KS animation 
vivid vessel
I mean you at least have the option to end KS for it now
i guess
red zinc
nah no way dimensius is that big
bright crane
Can somebody pin the new ks animation
haughty wigeon
can dh do these things during eye beam
you cant move in eyebeam
restive dove
and does it look like strafe from d3
red zinc
they're baiting us now
haughty wigeon
you can but