aka ss into evis pretending you’re helping
#outlaw
stuck sparrow
glass mortar
And by pretend u mean do giga st right, sub was blasting that tier
glass mortar
Yea softcapped
stuck sparrow
isnt softcap most specs
glass mortar
Yes
stuck sparrow
that arent tanks
stuck sparrow
and you could stack it with dfa
just not as many bosses to abuse on
well desolate host
fossil lintel
But zul is the reason it got killed
red zinc
aint that a good outlaw chest
red zinc
o nvm
hybrid crown
Go pack it looks cool 😎
red zinc
socket angle
vivid vessel
bro
proven ocean
but idk i have nothing to socket
proven ocean
maybe i craft 1 more item
vivid vessel
it just ended
proven ocean
to socket that
vivid vessel
what now
fossil lintel
You mean the arathi quest?
stuck sparrow
Yeah i mean in tomb
stuck sparrow
the only good combo figuts were desolate
proven ocean
im confused
vivid vessel
You mean the arathi quest?
bro idk
proven ocean
ooooooooooooooh
stuck sparrow
and maybe fish woman
vivid vessel
i just want the belt
vivid vessel
how do i get the belt xd
hybrid crown
When I haste flask I have 20.00% haste
fossil lintel
For the belt you grab the quest from the dwarf near bran in dornagol and go to an overcharged delve
hybrid crown
That feels pretty nice
stuck sparrow
tos was also the tier i realized
vivid vessel
ah
earnest basalt
gotta keep doing the quests from the titan consoles think it takes like 2 full delves ish
stuck sparrow
how much being in a low wr guild ints your logs
earnest basalt
belt quest is next to bran but its not a blue quest for some reason
fossil lintel
Cool shoulder mog?
glass mortar
Man Zul was so cooked
Legit world quest gear sub rogues were stronger then normal specs in mythic raid gear
We had 6 people swap sub
stuck sparrow
all i remember about zul
stuck sparrow
was our other rogues sucked so
fossil lintel
Yeah but it killed sub funnel
stuck sparrow
if i got run out mechanic
glass mortar
Good sub had gotten too degenerate
There's a certain level of funnel that's too strong
stuck sparrow
we didnt meet the damage push
glass mortar
Doing higher st then any spec in the game while in world quest blues might be there
fossil lintel
It was fine, it was their niche
glass mortar
That's too much of a niche
carmine verge
I miss uldir raiding as outlaw 
fossil lintel
And it had already been nerfed a bit from legion no?
glass mortar
Idr it being heavily abused in legion but maybe it was just fight design
Zul was basically custom made to funnel
stuck sparrow
Pretty sure i played all specs in uldir
also like my amirdrassil allstars is bricked since i played all 3 specs
fossil lintel
They made a fight that made a specific niche shine then nerfed the spec that did the niche for doing it too well
stuck sparrow
for my bests
upper hazel
do you all prefer vers flask or krit flask?
keen belfry
are we gonna mis this tier set? i dont think i am but also i really like 6 buff
glass mortar
do you all prefer vers flask or krit flask?
Vers flask should basically always be better
It's not a preference tho, just sim it (do two quicksims )
upper hazel
with versa flask iam at 22560 vers, think thats ok
tawdry arch
idk im so confused wtf should I play AAAAA can ptr come out already so we can see what spec is giga
its either assa main or outlaw main
upper hazel
but lost a lot of krit today with belt Sadhe
covert kestrel
idk im so confused wtf should I play AAAAA can ptr come out already so we can se...
or just play whats fun
covert kestrel
Known stats on jewelery in s3 so far
every other dps class gonna feel our pain from this season with all dat vers
glass mortar
Nodders
Altho who knows what raid will have
At least dungeon heroic ilvl shit farmable is like90% of the strength of jewlery
Mythic is barely an upgrade
red zinc
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680439583531335728/1384946391813591171/im...
Actual good ring spread?
fossil lintel
I wonder if we get anything else today or only tomorrow with the PTR data mining
red zinc
Incredible
tawdry arch
or just play whats fun
fun?
red zinc
Wait nvm
covert kestrel
top dps is fun
dont overcompensate
tawdry arch
hahaha
tawdry arch
dont overcompensate
❤️
red zinc
yeah but
fossil lintel
What if you're a power bottom dps
glass mortar
Then a crafted
red zinc
you dont need that much haste
glass mortar
Depends how much haste is forced on gear
red zinc
i mean at least 2/3 tier pieces with haste
and then two jewelry pieces
and ur probably already there
glass mortar
Ya and there's two jewelry pieces right there
stuck sparrow
its either assa main or outlaw main
Its never an outlaw tier explicitly
glass mortar
Maybe crit vers ring in raid
rigid basin
What's that? Oops all mastery tier again?
red zinc
or maybe the artifact cloak gives a trillion haste
who knows who knows
just want flexibility
stuck sparrow
Its not even about mastery on tier
glass mortar
Vers is the universal scaler so clearly cloak should have vers
That way nobody gets mad
Pure vers cloak
With a zillion vers
red zinc
cloak should have 20% avoidance so we can do TGP keys
REAL
do we think we get ptr thurs/friday or next week now
surely its this week
stuck sparrow
its the fact outlaw’s dmg profile kind of doesnt work
if you “need” a specific damage profile
lusty sparrow
my balls are so pogged off and in order for them to leave the stratosphere, glizzard needs to secure one last thing
rework killing spre
stuck sparrow
I didnt even check what spec was going to be good this tier.
Its just assa has the best damage profile for prog raids
overall
keen belfry
are we gonna mis this tier set? i dont think i am but also i really like 6 buff
@glass mortar tell me what to think delve
stuck sparrow
Spatter just plays so well into how adds spawn in raids.
glass mortar
Fuck this tier set
Too tangible a difference in gameplay for pure rng
5 buffs should only be something acquired fairly often for kir
stuck sparrow
None of the rogue tiersets are interesting
glass mortar
This spam roll through 500 1 buffs cause u got bad rng is exhausting
stuck sparrow
meanwhile dk gets insta ungabunga
stuck sparrow
like casters
Idk why they decided casters should auto max their set bonus
on cd pops
bleak veldt
can blizzard just like, idk, make KS work like blade dance ._.
stuck sparrow
can blizzard just like, idk, make KS work like blade dance ._.
good thing dh is made by same dev
bleak veldt
fml
stuck sparrow
although wounded quarry is infinitely more powerful than deathstalkers mark
stuck sparrow
Its funny how vdh’s 4set is so strong
bleak veldt
this gd ability...
stuck sparrow
Hell they could have copypasted veng’s tier bonus to havoc
and community would probably not care
covert kestrel
instead of taking the time to make 3 unique tier sets that work for each specialization, they are making things more efficient by making 3 unique tier sets for each hero talent tree
stuck sparrow
instead of taking the time to make 3 unique tier sets that work for each special...
in b4 bland % deathstalker increase
is the best
frank finch
😮
copper radish
Season 3 when
covert kestrel
Season 3 when
they confirmed that its not coming out today
copper radish
they confirmed that its not coming out today
S2 forever extended by turbo boosts
covert kestrel
11.1.94 - Overcharged turbo mega belt, this time has a chance to pull any mob/boss in the entire dungeon
grim badger
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit 
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group 
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
hollow portal
tierset, ks makes you immune while cast and increases damage by 20% If an add dies while you are still in ks its duration is reduced by 50%.
worldly shale
tierset, ks makes you immune while cast and increases damage by 20% If an add di...
ye right
final halo
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2bEwyytTQVdFkuaahJsteF
can someone help me understand why is my KiR build simming better with 23% haste vs using any other ring of the same ilvl with no haste on it (which would bring me to a sweet 18-19% spot)? thought after this breakpoint haste is useless and even mastery is better, am I doing something wrong or is this normal?
craggy barn
kinda funny how people voted for trinkets for the season dungeons
copper radish
Bunch of poop dungeons why taz again 😭
worldly shale
Bunch of poop dungeons why taz again 😭
why flood and priory again is my question
craggy barn
trinkets
copper radish
why flood and priory again is my question
Those two suck too
craggy barn
people literally voted for returning TWW dungeons
copper radish
Can we re do the vote lmao
covert kestrel
why flood and priory again is my question
i mean those are kinda bangers from this season imo
second part of flood sucks
copper radish
Just another season of holding KS on the tether boss lol
copper radish
I’ve been playing trickster since season one for everything so it’s all G
worldly shale
i mean those are kinda bangers from this season imo
idk, i was neutral for both this season
but even if they were good, why would i wanna play 2 same dungeons in 2 seasons in a row XD
copper radish
New tier set “blade flurry is uncapped and KS makes you immune”
Would be a fun season 😆
craggy barn
new tier set: killing spree now taunts ur target
worldly shale
New tier set “blade flurry is uncapped and KS makes you immune”
we can dream
craggy barn
not a mechanical taunt, ur cahracter literally just taunts the target
copper radish
new tier set: killing spree now taunts ur target
That’s fine as long as it makes us immune again lol
craggy barn
in /say
worldly shale
new tier set: killing spree now taunts ur target
would be less of a KILLING spree
craggy barn
make outlaw tank, make our taunt parlay
and whenever we taunt it /says something stupid
craggy barn
big mistake
vivid vessel
dude
craggy barn
u stopped playing rogue for 1 second and literally became stupid
copper radish
GG monks gearing
vivid vessel
why am i stupid man
copper radish
Wish they had a way to destroy crafted and regain the spark
copper radish
Made a belt earlier in the season on my rogue now I just deleted it lol
Wasted a spark
vivid vessel
i can buy a thing also but idk what to buy
vivid vessel
ye i guess i can buy another trinket
copper radish
Cart trinket is fun
vivid vessel
since that one is kinda shit
late swallow
Where’s your belt gem lil bro?
vivid vessel
cba
late swallow
Understandable
red zinc
zinc when are we doing 20s on your monk for my title
Also we just did a full one button rotation raid
Holy fuck how could anyone ever play this
like not even damage wise, we still shitstomped bosses
But my hand legit hurts
mighty breach
What a device on new waist ? Static charge for versa procc ?
red zinc
You gotta put the one button on multiple buttons to not get finger cramps / wrist pain
jolly geyser
vivid vessel
But my hand legit hurts
cant you put the button on all your binds
and you just
piano it
ytou know
covert kestrel
foot pedal
quaint sable
just bind the button to all binds and then still hit ur keybinds as if u were playing normally
vivid vessel
ye
quaint sable
Since hidden abrs I wouldn't notice the difference 😄
pearl trout
torpid heath
is Ratfang toxin Trinket a simbait?
covert kestrel
is Ratfang toxin Trinket a simbait?
link sims
covert kestrel
i mean they're all sidegrades so not really outsimming anything
just know that zees goon squad messes up the nightfall cudgel in keys
glass mortar
is Ratfang toxin Trinket a simbait?
No
Delve trinkets r very strong
Just not available myth track
Becsuse blizz is cowards
torpid heath
just know that zees goon squad messes up the nightfall cudgel in keys
playing capo anyway
covert kestrel
just costs one bind and we have no binds on law
covert kestrel
i have a crafted main handed and capo offhand
yeah the move is to use the macro in this pin, use the nightfall wep for all mob packs and then switch to capo for bosses
red zinc
piano it
of course
but why wouldnt you just play normally then
WAIT
I CAN TALK SHIT AND PLAY AT THE SAME TIME
YOOOOOOOO
vivid vessel
where is ptrrr
copper radish
Just not available myth track
I’d do more delves if they added this. Would be ez. Just add a level 15/16 delve and put it on the vault
But it should be super hard if they did that lol
loud wing
how the fuck do you leave this lorewalking shit
frank finch
where is ptrrr
what are the changes of a generational zac meltdown if there r no outlaw changes in 11.2
frank finch
touche
vivid vessel
they fixed all the stealth bugs
we arent playing fatebound
its a good spec
and i have accepted that i wont play outlaw in raid
ever
cause they fucked up our damage profile even harder
ripe epoch
why?
frank finch
vivid vessel
so im imune to that now
ripe epoch
oh
keen belfry
and i have accepted that i wont play outlaw in raid
y (can u explain ur dmg profile thing)
frank finch
oh wait
i do see a zac meltdown tho
u think outlaw is fun right now
if they change it
keen belfry
i do think if KS was changed current outlaw would be like peak
frank finch
that would be so fucked up
keen belfry
current tier is mid and i dont like the lows of it
vivid vessel
they rework it
and its back to square one
with everythjihg half cooked
and needing fixes
so i do want to just
stay in this iteration for a bit longer
frank finch
dear blizz
vivid vessel
and fix what is left to fix
frank finch
fix ks
vivid vessel
instead of reworking the whole shit again
fossil lintel
Nah man, gotta reduce complexity
fossil lintel
They'll send us back to BC rotation
I can't play ho, kir is too fun
But I do think this or S3 may be the last time we get this
vivid vessel
i mean
we had similar builds in sl
some harder maybe
so idk
thats just outlaw
stray star
12.0 ks fix for sure
bright crane
Is PTR out yet?
bright crane
You can’t
bright crane
It’s unfortunate
crude anchor
only reallyp lay outlaw for weekly keys cuz doing weeklies in sub/assa sucks
vivid vessel
even if its like 5% damage loss, but its too good
well
bright crane
There’s just no way around it. Gotta just get comfortable using it until the powers that be dian us with reprieve
stuck patrol
I swear to fucking god, the amount of times this belt throws me out of stealth is going to make me lose my shit. Tempted to @ realz and ask him to get it fixed
Using the vers power forever
Jesus CHRIST
crude anchor
its more like 20% damage loss
Yea 
late swallow
I swear to fucking god, the amount of times this belt throws me out of stealth i...
Do it
vivid vessel
crude anchor
I swear to fucking god, the amount of times this belt throws me out of stealth i...
Yea belt sucks in M+
late swallow
Players are encouraged to communicate with devs
vivid vessel
@stuck patrol
bright crane
Why do you think realz has anything to do with the belt
crude anchor
I was in rookery, and realized that i did not have stormrook's favor
late swallow
@realzz fix belt!!!!!!
crude anchor
and it was in fact the belt griefing me
bright crane
Wait hold on
Realz works at Blizz. Realz probably received RSU
Therefore, realz is a shareholder
vivid vessel
whats rsu
stuck patrol
And put another thing on my bars?
late swallow
Umm clears throat H-h-hi. I was told to message you if I needed a guild invite! pounces on you and curls up in your lap as you can see I’m a Vulpera in and out of the game. looks away nervously I was wondering if um....you would like to show me around Azeroth sometime. W-we could licks paws RP and maybe even get a little kinky wicked but alluring smile
stuck patrol
I GUESS
vivid vessel
wdym another thing
bright crane
Restricted stock units - I.e stock
vivid vessel
im sure you have stealth on your bars
proven ocean
this is the best stealth macro
in the game
#showtooltip
/cast [nostealth] stealth
/cancelaura Charged Bolts
doesn't let u break ur stealth pressing stealth again
vivid vessel
mine is so much better
proven ocean
it can make u break stealth if u spam it super hard with a gcd ready btw ^
so dont insanely spam it
just press it normally as u do
stuck patrol
Umm *clears throat* H-h-hi. I was told to message you if I needed a guild invite...
I'm @ ing Realz to tell him to ban you
bright crane
For crimes against humanity with that copy pasta
late swallow
I'm @ ing Realz to tell him to ban you
Wait lets not be rash we can talk this through
vivid vessel
stuck patrol
What is the stop attacking portion for?
bright crane
To stop attacking I think
stuck patrol
To stop attacking I think
Ty I never would have guessed
bright crane
You’re welcome glad I could help
vivid vessel
np
stuck patrol
IDK sometimes I do end up autoattacking myself out of stealth somehow
Rarely
IDK what I do to cause it
Maybe Zac's macro will save me
next wedge
right click a mob i think
stuck patrol
Prolly on accident somehow yeah
proven ocean
xdddddddddddd
craggy barn
i wish i could slot a macro into the stance bar
since i have the stance bar stealth keybound and muscle memoried
next wedge
just keybind the macro and unbind the stance bar
vivid vessel
ye?
craggy barn
thats annoying
mighty pivot
why? it's the same thing
craggy barn
u do not understand my laziness here
mighty pivot
you took longer to type about it here than it takes to achieve that in game
mighty pivot
carmine verge
feeling validated
random stirrup
It showed 0 dmg on details but was 2% on logs
vivid vessel
and never came back up
random stirrup
Last key I did
vivid vessel
hm
maybe its another one of these pets bugged things
taht dont show up on details always
sudden flicker
it shows up when i hit dornogal dummies
vivid vessel
do you have logs
sudden flicker
lemme whisper them see if they can post the log
sudden flicker
wintry solar
The new dh spec teased was just actually a tease that rogues can use warglaives
icy cedar
support DH is the most absurd concept i've ever even heard of
vivid vessel
I have heard of support rogue throwing vials so
icy cedar
well that at least makes more sense, cuz alchemy or something
icy cedar
sure, give us more vials
just tossing them everywhere
but DHs are too edgy to help people
icy cedar
rogues have a tough exterior, but they're really soft on the inside - like Han Solo
icy cedar
actually, thinking about it, now with Andor, Star Wars has two really popular rogue archetypes - Han Solo and Andor
we need some Andor references in our talent tree
I guess he's a sub rogue though
Han is Outlaw
daring oxide
does shadow quake still work?
craggy barn
yes?
rigid basin
(as long as you're not using hot line)
bright crane
It showed 0 dmg on details but was 2% on logs
If only they had some kind of internal testing mechanism where these things could be found and fixed before they’re released
gaunt phoenix
Oh jesus
frank finch
gaunt phoenix
I'm ready
gaunt phoenix
Double coup
gaunt phoenix
gaunt phoenix
Okay that's awesome
craggy barn
vivid vessel
this is shit tho
cause we still cant track ub
but whatever
its fine
2p useless
4p banger
let me read fb now
rotund pulsar
tier sets
frank finch
strong in aoe no?
vivid vessel
ye that seems shit maybe
frank finch
the trickster one is good
last scarab
and fatebound?
craggy barn
fb is super meh
frank finch
its just not new
gaunt phoenix
Lucky coin as in the capstone?
vivid vessel
fb looks super bad numerically tho right
craggy barn
yea
runic gulch
Lmao no way they take away the bug and then give it back to us as a 4 set bonus
gaunt phoenix
Oh hell no
slate plaza
free gcd off of ghostly which is a button that is already pressed alot
craggy barn
its actually super cooked solo
slate plaza
and adr uptime isnt something that we struggle with too most of the time
like sure 30 seconds is nice but at that point its just a free 7 cp builder that does no damage
frank finch
that last part of coup in tier is new right? 100 % dmg
slate plaza
the only thing that comes out of that tierset is the 50% to ghsotly
which is shit in m+ unless ur on a boss
slate plaza
that last part of coup in tier is new right? 100 % dmg
yes
double cast too
theyre bringing back the cdg bug lol as tier set
vivid vessel
that last part of coup in tier is new right? 100 % dmg
its just so they can tune
they dop that always
so they have a tuning knob
frank finch
oh yea a tuning nob
gaunt phoenix
Yeah
cedar kernel
what happened
slate plaza
they killed the already dead hero talent tree lol
red zinc
slate plaza
what happened<:PogO:1160145144872435792>
new tier set
vivid vessel
maybe this will lead them to lower the condition?
I mean
slate plaza
is aboslute shit for fatebound
vivid vessel
maybe its just meant to be
dense forge
vivid vessel
like we dont want fatebound to be good
dense forge
Does this shit work yet?
vivid vessel
this hero talent is dog
tepid skiff
is this spec back
gaunt phoenix
Whatever double coup is amazing
slate plaza
it gives ghostly and adr cdr but we already ahve 100% uptime
slate plaza
is this spec back
its been back
cedar kernel
it looks cool but i must say its not cool
slate plaza
but you have to play killing spree
random stirrup
double coup is nasty
vivid vessel
is this spec back
its been back the whole tier cuh, time to login and play
old gull
Double coup we’re so back
cedar kernel
could i have some screenshot
vivid vessel
you need to cancel aura stealth if you adr from stealth but ye
slate plaza
nice tierset blizz lol
cedar kernel
like i cant reach Wowhead rn
runic gulch
like we dont want fatebound to be good
Don’t we? We want another season of KS?
tawdry linden
Making the bug into a tier set is based AF xD
slate plaza
@cedar kernel ****
vivid vessel
Don’t we? We want another season of KS?
I prefer dying to ks than playing dogshit fatebound ngl
cedar kernel
vivid vessel
they will fix ks
cedar kernel
slate plaza
ignore what i have highlighted
frank finch
double coup wit ha ks fix we r so back
cold jewel
they are bringing back coup bug as a feature? 
slate plaza
yes
very innovative blizz
good job
one tier set is shit and doesnt do anything and the other is an old bug
cold jewel
one tier set is shit and doesnt do anything and the other is an old bug
that we already played with for a season lmao
frank finch
slight hardware check to
slate plaza
they took resources away from rogue tier to kill omnicd faster
slate plaza
i can play fatebound again
fatebound tier set is shit
rich moon
Making the bug into a tier set is based AF xD
just my thoughts lol
slate plaza
if anything i feel like the discprenacy between fatebound and trickster will only grow
random stirrup
fatebound does seem like it will trigger the lucky coin very easily
gilded karma
how often do you get lucky coin team
red zinc
this tier set is cool why are we complaining already
random stirrup
with the gs change
red zinc
vivid vessel
how often do you get lucky coin team
xddd
you dont wanna know kieron
you dont wanna know
gilded karma
I know it's never
vivid vessel
sometimes you dont get it even once
gilded karma
I just wanna confirm it
vivid vessel
a whole 5 min fight
gilded karma
thanks
slate plaza
this tier set is cool why are we complaining already
fatebound is bad, trickster is good but is a recycle of an old bug
random stirrup
isnt fatebound going to insta proc coin now>
red zinc
might proc a shitton of edge cases
tawdry linden
just my thoughts lol
I actually laughed out loud seeing that xD
random stirrup
with the tier set
red zinc
might be really common to proc lucky coin
vivid vessel
its prolly every 1/2min on average or smth right
mighty pivot
*Rogue Trickster 11.2 Class Set 4pc Coup de Grace may now be activated a second time within 5 sec, dealing 100% of normal damage. *
that's pretty funny
vivid vessel
might be really common to proc lucky coin
maybe ye
cedar kernel
idk i have a feeling like KIR might reach 96-97+% like 10.2 with this tier set
vivid vessel
idk
red zinc
like
vivid vessel
idc
red zinc
edge case flips 2 coins now
random stirrup
you get edge case from both gs anad AR
red zinc
on every single GS
vivid vessel
i just want fb to continue being bad
gilded karma
I have a feeling that this is the tier set of all time
slate plaza
*Rogue Trickster 11.2 Class Set 4pc Coup de Grace may now be activated a second...
that means we can reroll inbetween cdg for supercharger
quaint loom
I have a feeling that this is the tier set of all time
this might be s3 shadowlands sub rogue levels of fun
red zinc
its actually nuts how much worse assa's fatebound bonus is
vivid vessel
legit singular wishlist for 11.2
red zinc
that shit turbo stinks
quaint loom
if u can proc it often
cedar kernel
if KS is fixed i will play Trickster too but blizz
sigh
i am just lost every hope with them for rogue
slate plaza
thank god im running away to uni in the fall and wont have time to play
craggy barn
so if im understanding fb 2p correctly
u get a coin flip with edge case, and everytime u use ghostly strike, u get that coin's effect - not a new coin
is how im reading it
mighty pivot
one single line of change
+4s per combo point instead of +0.4?
frank finch
rare W for us today
bright crane
Bro wtf
tawny adder
crazy how they fixed the bug and then made it a setbonus
craggy barn
so if edge case gives u a tails, u get tails effect on ur next gs
vivid vessel
+4s per combo point instead of +0.4?
no bro, just fix ks, and im happy
tight kernel
Someone smarter than me tell me charged crystal for mythic? Did I read pin right or am I 
slate plaza
rare W for us today
its an L imo
frank finch
ur bugging
frank finch
double coup is goated
bright crane
Yeah it’s chill
mighty pivot
it was intentional all along guys 
mighty pivot
they were testing it
slate plaza
double coup is goated
fatebound tier set is shit, we alr have 100% uptime on adr and gs, and double coup is a recycled bug (while i enjoy it ive already used it for half a season)
cedar kernel
yea double coup is insane
bright crane
It’s just funny they turned the bug into an actual tier set
icy cedar
"Ghostly Strike deals 50% increased damage and has 4 sec increased duration." huh
frank finch
thats fine no one cares about fb
icy cedar
Edge Case now flips an additional Fatebound Coin and activating Ghostly Strike triggers its effect.
red zinc
i mean surely this gives us indicators for UB too
icy cedar
oh
red zinc
like
craggy barn
ok now the thing is
cedar kernel
i reached CN no.1 outlaw by double coups
craggy barn
do we coup build coup
craggy quiver
did they actually brrought back the bug as a tierr set?
cedar kernel
once
craggy barn
u have 5 seconds for ur 2nd coup
craggy quiver
LOL
bright crane
We’re locked into trickster next season
vivid vessel
i mean surely this gives us indicators for UB too
ye that one is a bit yuck but like whatever ..
bright crane
Pray for a ks fix
fathom bramble
do we coup build coup
Probably
icy cedar
these fatebound bonuses seem terrible
vivid vessel
do we coup build coup
idk it deepnds if we are losing ubs while building
slate plaza
thats fine no one cares about fb
the trickster tier set is fine im just calling it an L because blizz had to recycle an old bug, im interested to see rtb rules with supercharging ur second coup
vivid vessel
if we have this free coup
mighty pivot
it's not just a bit yuck, they could've easily given us proper auras to track UB
vivid vessel
if yes we might not
cedar kernel
5 sec is quite easy to build
vivid vessel
ub value only goes up
with tier set
its gonna be even more valuable to not lose ub
cedar kernel
so Coup Build Coup is very easy i think
vivid vessel
waste *
slate plaza
so Coup Build Coup is very easy i think
rtb too
vivid vessel
it's not just a bit yuck, they could've easily given us proper auras to track UB
yeeee
slate plaza
theyre 100% uptime
haughty wigeon
slate plaza
4 set usless
haughty wigeon
LMAOOOO
slate plaza
thats big
craggy barn
ye
haughty wigeon
frank finch
how is it useless?
cedar kernel
i just notice this
tight kernel
Wait did they take our coup bug and turn it into a scuffed 4 set?
vivid vessel
THEY MADE THE BUIG
you are late, did you post in dh discord before coming in here ? 
cedar kernel
uh does it mean?
red zinc
i mean lowkey
haughty wigeon
how is it useless?
i mean adr alreadyhigh uptime in general
so having cdr on it is kinda silly
haughty wigeon
you are late, did you post in dh discord before coming in here ? <:Susge:1008456...
ret actually
cedar kernel
something us unknown will be release or
haughty wigeon
vdh discord is next
vivid vessel
ret actually
nice
red zinc
I really think this tier for fatebound might be pretty good
cedar kernel
Blizz just lazy to change
slate plaza
so having cdr on it is kinda silly
exacvtly, all it really is is a free 7cp builder that does no damage every now and then more often
vivid vessel
I really think this tier for fatebound might be pretty good
4p is useless and thats where most of the power of a 4p is usually so idk
red zinc
like you won't be using AR for uptime, you will just chain them for lucky coins
GS > AR > GS
haughty wigeon
dude instead of slamming hammer of light 1 time in my es window
vivid vessel
or maybe it just turns into a feeding loop
red zinc
insta lucky coin
haughty wigeon
i get to do it twice and somethinces 3 times
vivid vessel
feeding into 2p
red zinc
ye
vivid vessel
into 4p
errant terrace
Do we know if fatebound tier is looking better than trickster? I assume not but I hope so 
red zinc
thats what im thinking
vivid vessel
loopy loop outlaw stuffs
frank finch
i mean adr alreadyhigh uptime in general
alright so alot of truth in that it can still feel very good , seems like this was created with other chages in mind
red zinc
we play this on ptr tomorrow
vivid vessel
and you just adr every 2 finisher
haughty wigeon
alright so alot of truth in that it can still feel very good , seems like this w...
alot of them feel like they were made with changes in mind
vivid vessel
i dont want it to be good man
red zinc
but hard to visualize
haughty wigeon
even tho spirit bomb is a thing
vivid vessel
trickster is so much better
errant terrace
I loathe trickster
vivid vessel
but also timmy
haughty wigeon
but killing spree
red zinc
they aint changing ks
stuck lion
bro reading that Fatebound tier set does not give me confidence in them fixing Killing Spree/Trickster hero talents
frank finch
i mean now we get double coup gameplay
red zinc
ill take fatebound being good
sullen wyvern
Imma miss 17% 5 roll chance
vivid vessel
or
frank finch
fb is just down bad
craggy barn
theres 0 way fb is better than trickster tier
the raw damage gains from FB tier is so small and scuffed by FB mechanics
whereas trickster kidna just buffs everything we were already doing
vivid vessel
thats legit impossible
errant terrace
Killing spree on mythic gally was so dogshit man
vivid vessel
zac lucky coin refresh aoe
wdym
gilded tinsel
Wait did they take our coup bug and turn it into a scuffed 4 set?
We were just doing early PTR testing
mighty pivot
why did they tie the 4p of FB to the lucky coin? Isn't it rng enough already?
craggy barn
its bc thats the capstone
icy cedar
Killing spree on mythic gally was so dogshit man
where is KS not dogshit lol
sullen wyvern
Imma miss rolling 5
errant terrace
Ks into 7 second stun 
vivid vessel
why did they tie the 4p of FB to the lucky coin? Isn't it rng enough already?
i think timmy is right and the 2p might help a lot cause we cast gs often
red zinc
i dreamt it
craggy barn
tier sets based on hero talents 100% will have something to do with capstone
vivid vessel
wait nvm i thought proccing lucky coin again did uncapped aoe for whatever reaso...
does it even cleave bro
stuck lion
Ks into 7 second stun <a:SadgeCry:1024415035398823997>
pay your shamans to insta remove the stun
vivid vessel
i dont rememebr
red zinc
yes
errant terrace
where is KS not dogshit lol
Everything else I could deal with (never on sprocket), but the stuns were shit
cedar kernel
rtb too
yea like Double Coup is much easy to set, just Coup-Build-Finisher-RTB-Build-Coup, as long as the builder isnt KS
red zinc
when it got tested it did
frank finch
how much adr uptime do we lose if we lose currnt tier tho
fathom bramble
2pc is so many coins
errant terrace
pay your shamans to insta remove the stun
They did, but I was a bomb carrier, so I was eventually told to stop lol
red zinc
no way its that much
mighty pivot
FB set looks dog in comparison but let's see whether they have spec changes that will affect the bonuses 
red zinc
im going to be a fatebound believer till we get ptr testing
not that i want to play it
but yall are hating rn
think about it
lone crow
for sure all the coin bugs are gonna be fixed right
red zinc
AR as a builder with how much you proc lucky coin
lone crow
no skipping anymore
stuck lion
guys, when is realz coming back to make the once every two years rogue changes
quaint loom
Hey man PTR is up where are the sims
craggy barn
does fb tier get us gaurantee'd capstone
frank finch
guys, when is realz coming back to make the once every two years rogue changes
when he done cooking the 3rd dh spec
craggy barn
i forget how many coins we flip in our opener in s1
vale warren
bringing back a bug as a tier set is pretty cool actually
vale warren
and very on theme for this spec
vivid vessel
frank finch
OMG
analog fog
fake
analog fog
nice troll
icy cedar
IS THAT REAL
burnt tangle
HELLO GUYS I AM PLAYING OUTLAW!
royal ermine
killing spree mentioned 
candid locust
THEY FIXED KILLIN SPREEa
THEY FIXED KILLIN SPREEa
THEY FIXED KILLIN SPREEa
THEY FIXED KILLIN SPREEa
vivid vessel
brooo
vivid vessel
its a
vivid vessel
fucking
candid locust
THEY FIXED KILLIN SPREEa
dense forge
NO WAY
unique trail
OMG
candid locust
THEY FIXED KILLIN SPREEa
proven ocean
@vivid vessel double outlaw keys?
candid locust
THEY FIXED KILLIN SPREEa
icy cedar
IS THAT REAL
vivid vessel
3.5 s
candid locust
THEY FIXED KILLIN SPREEa
vivid vessel
cast
candid locust
THEY FIXED KILLIN SPREEa
icy cedar
OR ARE YOU TROLLING
candid locust
THEY FIXED KILLIN SPREEa
sudden fulcrum
holy shit
mighty pivot
novel socket
FIXED
candid locust
shut up
vivid vessel
there is no way its a 3.5 sec cast
proven ocean
double outlaw
sudden fulcrum
fathom bramble
5 at 10cp
proven ocean
@vivid vessel thats datamines, looks like it gets fixed later btw
thorny zinc
surely if it generates cps it will make other abilities useable during it right..
vivid vessel
wtf is this
fathom bramble
A bit odd idk
vivid vessel
is this the sub ability
proven ocean
he typed
vivid vessel
that we all hate
sullen wyvern
Aint no way
proven ocean
zac
red zinc
stationary channel i imagine
proven ocean
stop yapping
vivid vessel
bro im
proven ocean
and login
sullen wyvern
They fixed ks i am so fucking happy man
proven ocean
double outlaw keys
craggy barn
HOLY
proven ocean
noob
long kestrel
FFS WHY DID I REREAD THIS DOGSHIT
sullen wyvern
Aint no way
mighty pivot
3.5s channel 
dense forge
dense forge
crafting rings now @proven ocean
cedar kernel
or not
proven ocean
@vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel
gilded karma
@vivid vessel I hope ur bricked
vale warren
can they add this shit like
vivid vessel
bro this looks like the most acboslute dogshit rework ever
vale warren
now
mighty pivot
it will be 5s channel with SC
mighty pivot
FIVE SECONDS
proven ocean
crafting rings now <@1172550924519080006>
that ring is good no need to change it
iron maple
haughty wigeon
frank finch
someone ping vurai
proven ocean
oh outlaw
frank finch
fast
errant terrace
LETS FUCKING GO
vivid vessel
there is no way its shuriken storm
vale warren
probably still hasted right?
verbal pike
CONGRATS YOU GUYS
vivid vessel
for one sec
red zinc
wait ptr is up?
haughty wigeon
NO
verbal pike
YOU'RE FREE
red zinc
am i delulu?
haughty wigeon
THIS IS IT