outlaw

[gaunt phoenix]

[fallen knot]

AHAHAHAHAHAH

[rigid basin]

Oooof

[fallen knot]

SO

BEAUTIFUL

[red zinc]

yoo it was a parsing eror

lizzard popped off

[fallen knot]

THANK FUCK I DID NOT PROC INTO IT

[random stirrup]

great blizzard addition cannot lie

Glad they overtuned the random enemy within 40yd proc so we have to use it anyway

[gaunt phoenix]

if only you could see 8 people attempt to zap the mines at once

[late swallow]

[red zinc]

dont worry

[fallen knot]

also

btw

[gaunt phoenix]

nice

[red zinc]

theyll just buff the stat one

[fallen knot]

the damage to the small adds is taken out

in 11.7

so thats also wasted

11.1.7

[red zinc]

blizzards solution to these items as of late

if damage proc too good buff stat

[random stirrup]

Yes on bandit and mugzee it’s just omega turbo rng on 1. If it procs 2. If it hits things that aren’t immune

And its still so ridiculously overtuned that on average it’s still better despite that

[rigid basin]

I mean the theme this tier is gambling so they are just gonna say it's on brand

[echo tide]

Yw

[fossil lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/jago33-slot-machine-slot-online-casino-medan-gif-25082594

[gaunt phoenix]

[lyric crest]

is the nightfall weapon not worth it? (m+)

[red zinc]

wat

[gaunt phoenix]

it is worth it

on trash

[lyric crest]

oh it just isn't on wowhead

[gaunt phoenix]

you have to weapon swap

perhaps guy deemed it obnoxious for wowhead audience

[red zinc]

wowheads never going to be updated with all the bullshit we come up with

[lyric crest]

have to have to?

how big of a ST dps increase we talking

[gaunt phoenix]

if you dont swap then its not worth it

[red zinc]

zero

[fallen knot]

no it's aoe increase

[gaunt phoenix]

its like 2-3% either which way

[lyric crest]

I'll rephrase the question so it's understood instead

[red zinc]

for total overall you're better off using two 684/681 weapons than only using cudgel and not swapping

[lyric crest]

How much of a dps increase is it using a weapon that isn't the nightfall weapon in st

[red zinc]

depends on what weapon

[gaunt phoenix]

should be 2%ish

[fossil lintel]

If heroic capo around 2.2% for me

[lyric crest]

thank you for the helpful answer solo

[fossil lintel]

684 weapon is like a bit over 1

[rigid basin]

I liked your answer @red zinc

https://tenor.com/view/30rock-alec-baldwin-there-there-cheer-up-comfort-gif-4215371

[red zinc]

i just dont like giving answers that might be off since i have no clue what the guy is using

[covert kestrel]

Timmy's got that societal nuance

[red zinc]

dont know why hes being a goober about it

[gaunt phoenix]

it's fine

[late swallow]

we do a little goobin

[red zinc]

ofc its fine

[covert kestrel]

assa mains am i rite

[red zinc]

i just gotta stop being number nerd and be more general with stuff

can see how its not ideal to have to answer seventeen questions before something comes out of it

[late swallow]

solo is also him

[soft bobcat]

Do you need 20% haste for h/o build?

[gaunt phoenix]

naw

somewhere between 14-18% it will probably sim, it's flexible

[soft bobcat]

I’m trying to get a gear set going but I’m lacking haste verse stuff

[gaunt phoenix]

if you dont use ghostly strike in keys then you can technically get away with low haste (~9%) but i would use a bit more to help cover feint and improve rng a bit

[soft bobcat]

It’s macrod

[gaunt phoenix]

like not having it talented

[soft bobcat]

I believe it is

[gaunt phoenix]

the standard HO build in keys doesnt use it

[covert kestrel]

[gaunt phoenix]

but in raid it does

[lyric crest]

wowhead says echoing void is best, but i thought it was bugged?

[gaunt phoenix]

it's still bugged

[lyric crest]

staying twilight devastation probably best bet then i assume?

[rigid basin]

It can pull

[soft bobcat]

I use gushing cause I pay sin

[covert kestrel]

gushing is safe, Tdev slightly better in aoe but has some risk of ninja pulls

[rigid basin]

I use TD still tho, haven't had it pull yet

[gaunt phoenix]

ye it's fine

[rigid basin]

(That I've noticed)

[gaunt phoenix]

maybe motherlode it can pull

[lyric crest]

i'll try gushing, see how it is, haven't experienced TD pulling either

[brisk meadow]

@vivid vessel YO

second ping today

[covert kestrel]

blocked and reported

[lyric crest]

Banned

[brisk meadow]

Pfft

[rigid basin]

I have had my tank move the pack as I proc making it whiff tho

[brisk meadow]

he aint even green nomore

[red zinc]

twilight dev will only ninjapull near the knight patrol pack upstairs in PSF

and area after 2nd boss ml

if you;re really unlucky

dont even think its worth playing around but you can be careful with where you're facing if you really want to

[inland acorn]

But what if it procs during KS

[bright crane]

I’ve been playing with it since launch

0 ninja pulls

[rigid basin]

Typically there I am facing wall/fountain

[red zinc]

what fountain

[bright crane]

There are some scenarios you just may need to position yourself a little intelligently

[vivid vessel]

What

[rigid basin]

On the wall on either side of last room

[red zinc]

im talking about these two packs

[rigid basin]

Where priest/paladins re-up the buff

Oh I point backwards

[vivid vessel]

My tank already drag this pack away otherwise I pull with ks

[red zinc]

idk what you're pulling downstairs but ninja;ing with tdev there is pretty hard

[rigid basin]

My group pulls 2 into boss as well anywho

I thought you meant upstairs after baron

[mighty pivot]

so you can just cycle through all the buffs on bosses just fine (tried on LFR)

[vivid vessel]

Can't wait

To do that in keys

[red zinc]

yeah but thats with window open isnt it

[rigid basin]

1 pull before priest mini boss, so they are never close enough to be an issue

[mighty pivot]

you can't in keys

[desert tendon]

Cant wait to do you in keys zac

😳

[vivid vessel]

Sure buddy

You can't

[mighty pivot]

the bubble closes the menu and then it blocks you from opening it again

[vivid vessel]

I'm not you

[red zinc]

outlaw always finds a way

[rigid basin]

Zac playing with the menu open the entire key

[desert tendon]

you dont know how much sheningans zac is already doing

🤭

[mighty pivot]

I tried to just show the frame manually but the buttons don't work

[vivid vessel]

My engineers are working on it

[mighty pivot]

you can show the menu manually in keys

[desert tendon]

yea i m currently mining it

[vivid vessel]

Ok so

[red zinc]

its actually been outsourced to a guy who outsourced it again

incredible management

[vivid vessel]

We are working on it

As a team

[red zinc]

true cooperation

equal on all levels

[mighty pivot]

[keen belfry]

melee is hell on mugzee

blue circles into red circles covered by players with blue circles

with brown circles

[vivid vessel]

I kinda like that

They reworked these circles things

To be more visible

And then the most dangerous mechanic of the raid

With the mugzee bombs spawning

The circle is barely visible

Great work team

[rigid basin]

I've been healing w/ Chi-Ji all tier, swapped yulon so I could get the fuck away from melee lol

[echo tide]

Surely there is a command that you can type and it swaps the belt for you

[rigid basin]

Cuz that shit was yikes

[red zinc]

stop speaking the eldritch technologies into existence

[keen belfry]

like the circles are fine, its literally just 5 diff circles going on at the same time in melee under a double headed behemoth

[echo tide]

It will happen

[keen belfry]

there are 2 circles under the boss in this screenshot

[echo tide]

And then people will get kicked from weekly 12s if they are not doing it

[keen belfry]

but yesterday was my first night of mythic prog as rogue this season my rogue is so back

[random stirrup]

Some of y’all fighting boogiemen

Literally never seen anyone get kicked from a 12

[vivid vessel]

HALLS.OF ATTONMENT!!

[red zinc]

wrong when I join 12/10s for weekly/crests

[vivid vessel]

HILY SHOMLY

[red zinc]

tazavesh and hoa

[inland acorn]

There are blue circles on mugzee ?

[red zinc]

fuck i went 3/4

MAN

[gaunt phoenix]

KICKED from a key i don't think i've ever seen

[vivid vessel]

Tzavesh is ok I guess

I think there was too much walking in the first area

[red zinc]

i really didnt think they would do both

[vivid vessel]

But bosses were cool

Ye

Both is weird

Whatever tho

[red zinc]

theyll probably rework streets

a lil

[vivid vessel]

It's not the worse dungeons we had

[red zinc]

more trash packs in between

[keen belfry]

any good trinkets from the new dungies?

[vivid vessel]

This new season is actually looking quite good imo

[red zinc]

uh

[vivid vessel]

All the dungeons are decent

[red zinc]

streets had somethingi

i think

[vivid vessel]

Appart from Dawn

[keen belfry]

ks dungeons @vivid vessel i didnt play really any slands but i know halls of atonement

[fossil lintel]

Halls of atonement is back

[rigid basin]

As much as I liked the thematic pirate dragon, I did not enjoy Gambit

[red zinc]

oh yeah

[vivid vessel]

Hm

[red zinc]

secret technique

DESPAIR

[vivid vessel]

Ye I think you can ks in halls

Let me think

Oh

Xd

[fossil lintel]

Hopefully they announce KS changes or outlaw will be unplayable next season

[vivid vessel]

You are going to ks in the statues

[red zinc]

the return of soleah x5

ITS DOOMED

[vivid vessel]

Also you can't ks during soaking statues

Or you kill grp

Haha

[rigid basin]

Me when I hit KS and a swirly spawns where I started the KS

[vivid vessel]

Bro halls had so many swirlies I think

They might make it mega cancer with their new swirlies

Since they decided they should be bigger

For reasons ?

[red zinc]

HERO TALENT TIER SETS

I CALLED IT

YOOOOOOO

nostradamus goated

[fossil lintel]

Do I need the market WA again?

[vivid vessel]

HELLL NOOOO

[random stirrup]

[red zinc]

dw zac

this means they had to look at the tier sets

for longer than three seconds

surely they realized something was wrong with ours

!!

[gaunt phoenix]

oh fun

[fossil lintel]

Oh no they're putting the "better roll rng" tier set on fatebound

[gaunt phoenix]

Imagine they fix ks with a tier set and not perma

[fossil lintel]

Calling it now

[red zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=2CE8zcDHcMA&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowhead.com%2F whole video btw

instead of dripfeeding

from wowhead

[vivid vessel]

Rogue not mentioned AMEN

Not another rework !

We are safe

[random stirrup]

Outlaw survives another tier without getting kneecapped

W

[keen belfry]

Trickster 4pc, Overdue Reparations: KS no longer teleports you around your target and instead functions as a normal finisher, as we shouldve have done at the start of season 2 TWW

[red zinc]

artifact cloak

bro

in retail?

[covert kestrel]

likely rogue set looks like all other rogue sets

[red zinc]

tazavesh is the home base

of the patch

dope

[fossil lintel]

"and many more" means we just get the undercooked rework

[red zinc]

dimensius looks so cool holy fuck

[gaunt phoenix]

cant find blue post

[vivid vessel]

Stfu

[gaunt phoenix]

help !

[red zinc]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/news/us/wowcast-immerse-yourself-in-the-ghosts-of-k-aresh-content-update-world-of-24215104

just watch video

[fossil lintel]

Rework is coming zac

They need to make outlaw less complex

And "not need WAs"

[red zinc]

the new delve is inside azure vault

[vivid vessel]

I mean

[fossil lintel]

SS x 5 -> finisher gameplay coming back

[red zinc]

they're cooked

[vivid vessel]

Marvin

Imma be honest

You need more weak auras for sin

Than outlaw

[fossil lintel]

Nah

[vivid vessel]

Yes lol

You can't track debuffs etc with base ui

It's legit impossible

[red zinc]

kyveza back

[vivid vessel]

Outlaw I can play without weak auras lol

[fossil lintel]

You have to track like 3 debuffs

[random stirrup]

no chance ur playing kir without weakauras

[fossil lintel]

Outlaw needs to track 6 RTB buffs

[red zinc]

kyveza is new nemesis

thats cool

[random stirrup]

the fazed unseen blade thing is at least doable but annoying

[vivid vessel]

Ye but you don't actually track them

You just count them at most

[gaunt phoenix]

patch will probably start as a banger

hope it doesn't have dog ass 11.2.5 and 11.2.7

[red zinc]

its definitely "we had assets left over from shadowlands: the season" though

nothing wrong with that

[fossil lintel]

For sin you pretty much just need to know if they are up or down as well

[red zinc]

but gawd damn im seeing so many familiar models

[fossil lintel]

And sin outside of cooldown has 0 things to track other than the dots

[indigo token]

so it has dots to track

and the cds

also how are we feeling about the dungeon rotation

not a fan of dawnbreaker but

i think people like tazavesh and HOA

[rigid basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255110288081162311/1374365469884289034/KillingSpreeDawnbreaker.gif

Can't wait

[red zinc]

yoo

[gaunt phoenix]

i figured tazavesh would return

[red zinc]

they said they think runbacks in m+ are way too long and adding visual waystones throughout the dungeon to show when you get them

instead of just map markers

[fossil lintel]

I'm sad cause I wanted an arathi themed raid

[indigo token]

ION PLEASE FIX KILLING SPREE 🥺

[fossil lintel]

arathi themed tier sets would go hard for transmog

[indigo token]

ill give you my first born child

[red zinc]

fire

[indigo token]

so was undermine just a detour

[red zinc]

when is season 2 not a detour

[indigo token]

i wont lie the artificers are hot asf

[red zinc]

??

[indigo token]

idk why they're attractive to me

[late swallow]

i can't believe eco dome aldani is in the rotation

[indigo token]

what.

[late swallow]

that dungeon is ass

[indigo token]

ikr i didnt think they'd bring a cut wod dungeon back

[red zinc]

welp

[fallen knot]

fuck me like

[keen belfry]

do you think so? i couldnt imagine looking at rtb stuff and stuff like stacks of opp

[fallen knot]

zorthas once thought about fun tiersets

and said

[late swallow]

i bet all the backlog of wod assets is goated

[fallen knot]

"imagine tiersets that interact with hero talents"

blizzard went

[indigo token]

thats IMPOSSIBLE

[fallen knot]

YOINK MY IDEA

I am not kidding

[vale warren]

[jolly geyser]

longer KS tierset

[red zinc]

PROGRESS IS WARBOUND

YEAAAAAA

[fallen knot]

what the fuck is a reshii wrap

[red zinc]

weekly upgrades the whole season is kinda yikes but

at least its not goofy for alts

[gaunt phoenix]

it's the artifact cloak

[red zinc]

new artifact cloak

upgradeable

[indigo token]

oh

so like mop cloak or wod ring

[vivid vessel]

so basically what i would need to play outlaw without weak aura, is just like any spec, a functionning cooldown manager that allows me to

• have my rtb buffs in a separate grp (that or the only buff i track are rtb basically since you dont realy need to track anything else)
• better way of seeing fth procs since its garbo atm + i want sound
• there is no resource bar so how tf do you see your cps

[late swallow]

reshii wrap sounds like something I'd get at an asian bistro ngl

[vale warren]

More like wod ring I think yeah

[gaunt phoenix]

so there will be a trickster tier set that is the same for both sub and outlaw?

[indigo token]

😋

[vivid vessel]

ok

everytime i watch these blizzard videos

[keen belfry]

this soudns right, outlaw doesnt need to track A LOT it just has a few things that NEED to be tracked well

[vivid vessel]

i get a jumpscare

[indigo token]

added cdr for killing spree XDD

[fossil lintel]

Holy shit, are these the tier sets? I don't think we've ever had a worse lineup

[vivid vessel]

this girl

looks exactly

like that actress

[indigo token]

wait

[vivid vessel]

but i cant say more

[indigo token]

isnt the left one just the stormwind knight set

[vivid vessel]

gooners will know

[random stirrup]

[vivid vessel]

somnius knows prolly

big gooner

[late swallow]

there's no shot that the cooldown manager will have color coded containers

for rtb

[vivid vessel]

what

i dont need that tho

[red zinc]

container buffs gone

[vivid vessel]

thats legit fluff

[red zinc]

soon

[vivid vessel]

• this need either, a real visual on the buffs if they are supposed to stay, or a bugfix of rtb

but also you dont need that

you just roll once after kier

gg

[late swallow]

[vivid vessel]

I think you guys are confusing playing outlaw

and playing outlaw with all the 0.1% minmaxes

[random stirrup]

but if u do the 40s roll and get one crap red buff that you can do a second reroll for

how u gonna tell

[vivid vessel]

i can definitly play outlaw at like 95% + with a working cooldown manager

[vivid vessel]

you wont

which doesnt matter

you will lose 1% sim dps at most

[random stirrup]

i mean sure but you're still losing functionality

[vivid vessel]

but again

[indigo token]

dont worry zac we can just go back to BFA outlaw where you just fished for buffs

[reef forge]

is anyone elses crit really low lol

[reef forge]

2.7k crit

[vivid vessel]

2k7 crit ?

[late swallow]

2k + 700 crit

[carmine verge]

dawnbreaker back in S3

[keen belfry]

if they rework brew that means itll be OP which means phys comp is meta which means we will see outlaw rogue rerollers which means we will see really bad outlaws which means the good ones will get groups

[gaunt phoenix]

cant wait for tier to be gone and HO build is instantly deleted

[indigo token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255110288081162311/1374365469884289034/KillingSpreeDawnbreaker.gif

[reef forge]

1k more mastery than crit, feels strange

[indigo token]

i havent even touched that build

im a kir andy

[gaunt phoenix]

nice

[indigo token]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-five-nights-at-freddys-freddy-freddy-fazbear-funny-gif-14612172008923938756

[vivid vessel]

nice

[indigo token]

I LOVE GAMBLING

[gaunt phoenix]

i cant wait to make kir rules again

[vivid vessel]

ok guys

[inland acorn]

what are your stats, if you have 2.7k cirt

[vivid vessel]

silence

[indigo token]

...

[vivid vessel]

I need 10 min to watch the video

stop yapping

[late swallow]

that's an interesting way of saying "i'm a hung bull"

[gaunt phoenix]

wtf

[reef forge]

haste cap and vers

[indigo token]

thanks I think

[rotund pulsar]

so ready for the killing spree is dead announcement

[vivid vessel]

NAH

[shy sandal]

can only hope

[vivid vessel]

THEY ARE MAKING ANOTHER BOSS

WHERE YOU FLY

[covert kestrel]

Give brewmaster killing spree

[vivid vessel]

DURING A TRANSMISSION

STOPPPP

[inland acorn]

I also have haste cap and dump almost all I can into vers/crit where I can

[rotund pulsar]

nice rolls idiot

[inland acorn]

And i'm on 11k crit rn

There's no way you're on 2.9k

[random stirrup]

get more vers noob

[reef forge]

im not i'm on 2.7

[vivid vessel]

if we cant disable this effect btw

im quitting the game for the season

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/confetti-genial-fabulouus-fabulous-fab-gif-13642634

[late swallow]

bro played sin all of season 1 but will quit over this

[vivid vessel]

dude !

[keen belfry]

holy shit i forgot zac sin arc

[vivid vessel]

transmog is more than 30% dps

[keen belfry]

that shit was ass

[vivid vessel]

i cant

fr fr

[indigo token]

you look good you feel good

frfr

[past falcon]

fr

[keen belfry]

reader the book is a good new name

i cant even lie

[reef forge]

your vers must be sub 20k then

[hidden bay]

No ks rework announced gg boys 12.0 waitingroom

[late swallow]

vurai will need to update his stats

[past falcon]

thanks will u autograph my book

[inland acorn]

it's on 19.7k

[shy sandal]

16% haste ok or should i craft a ring and replace my roulette wheel(big vers+crit)

using HO build

[indigo token]

OH NO IM TURNING INTO A PEARLESCENT WEAPON FROM BL2

[inland acorn]

Sim

[vivid vessel]

do i take it

just idk

for fun

[covert kestrel]

rude

[vivid vessel]

i hjave shoudlers alereayd

[reef forge]

show stats zac

[vivid vessel]

i dont think its worth to change chest for shoulders

[covert kestrel]

show cock zac

[reef forge]

pretty similar then

[indigo token]

damn dual on use

[reef forge]

i'm not depleted

[indigo token]

what do you macro it to

[past falcon]

zac where are all ur terts

[late swallow]

zac uses the one button feature

[indigo token]

riiight

i forgot he started in 11.1.7

[covert kestrel]

he developed his own app for it prior to 11.1.7, said anyone playing "the regular way" is, and i quote "not keeping up with the times bozo"

[craggy barn]

rip no mention of rogue changes in the preview post

[shy sandal]

could be in the many more

[carmine verge]

^

[cinder island]

does it matter if outlaw use a dagger in offhand?

[covert kestrel]

i dont think we wanted to be mentioned there

[craggy barn]

also

[covert kestrel]

that seems like full rework territory

[craggy barn]

dawnbreaker is back

rip

[indigo token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255110288081162311/1374365469884289034/KillingSpreeDawnbreaker.gif

[random stirrup]

yea with dawnbreaker coming back we will 100% see ks changes right guys

[vivid vessel]

why would i need terts

[indigo token]

as soon as multidotting on afflock feels good

[vivid vessel]

https://www.twitch.tv/zac__________________/clip/CrunchyTrustworthyTrollCoolStoryBob-P6PVKDeouOWXDVVj?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

[craggy barn]

i cant wait

[indigo token]

what the fuck?

[rigid basin]

No, but there are better options this tier

!oh

[ornate heath]

A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.

[hidden bay]

Rogue not mentioned

[rigid basin]

Capo is typically considered bis oh st but always sim

[gaunt phoenix]

tf is that

[shy sandal]

damn myth capo lookin good

[random stirrup]

that's because it's not getting a major gameplay update (thank god) they're just going to fix KS

[vivid vessel]

the cloak

idk

[flat needle]

Gambit and halls, we gonna be so f-tier

[vivid vessel]

uh

he doesnt know

hoa was uncapped

for sl

thats an everyday pull in tww

its not even that uncapped now

[craggy barn]

we dont even have cudgel next season

[gaunt phoenix]

yes you do

[craggy barn]

oh god

[covert kestrel]

720 ilvl with a 658 wep lfg

[craggy barn]

say it isnt so solo

[shy sandal]

uncap

[gaunt phoenix]

i havent checked

need to see proc weapons from raid

surely there is always one

[craggy barn]

who else is gonna mog s1 tier this season

[shy sandal]

what if they uncap BF and make it do reduced dmg above 8 targets

[craggy barn]

ethereal mog will go hard in ethereal season

[gaunt phoenix]

that's what uncapping means

when people say uncap bf they really mean softcap bf

[covert kestrel]

i liked the teal one

[vivid vessel]

the dungeon is an open dungeon with only 3 bosses ! ! ! ! !

holy banger

i like

[rigid basin]

Maybe bind cloak to it and it'll cancel out

[craggy barn]

yea but plants and devours

ARTFIACT CLOAK?

oh god

[keen belfry]

i think artifact cloak could be lit

[craggy barn]

its warbound so much better

[keen belfry]

yeah most stuff like that is very very easy to get/use now

[shy sandal]

what was the needed haste for HO build again?

[gaunt phoenix]

around 14-18%

its flexible just sim

[rigid basin]

Solo got these numbers memorized xd

[shy sandal]

lol

[craggy barn]

when people ask enough

[shell lark]

Guys is outlaw back in ss3

[craggy barn]

surebud

its out back

in the ditch

bc dawnbreaker is in rotation

so we're just dead

[gaunt phoenix]

we're so back

[covert kestrel]

It's back (back off the boat in dawnbussy)

[late swallow]

buckbreaker was overhyped imo

dragonriding doesn't belong in dungeons

[craggy barn]

people voted for items for tww dungeons

[carmine verge]

hold your fellow outlaw rogue's hands and killing spree off a cliff (we're so back and it's so over at the same time)

[covert kestrel]

Blizz gonna release dynamic playerriding with the release of player housing

[carmine verge]

blade rush FOTM when

[edgy phoenix]

homies is it true we play priory and fg back to back

[craggy barn]

ye

[keen belfry]

priory is banger

[craggy barn]

i havent double checked dungeon pool

[edgy phoenix]

[craggy barn]

but are we fucked again on accessories

[keen belfry]

FG is close to banger swampface and on is poopoo

[fluid meadow]

do we get fear in HoA 1st boss during ks if we are out of zone? would be so fun

[craggy barn]

like this season with 0 necks

KS wont put u out of the boss zone

ks wil be funny af on last boss tho

[edgy phoenix]

can be 10/10 sex dungeon banger if its back to back its too much tbh

[craggy barn]

cant press during suck phase

[vale warren]

i wonder if they'll rework 3rd boss or if itll still be easy as piss

[keen belfry]

tazavesh has haste vers neck iirc

[vale warren]

hoa

[edgy phoenix]

they fix ks til s3

[keen belfry]

and finger

[edgy phoenix]

anything else leaked?

curious about new tier atrocities

[gaunt phoenix]

no tier sets yet

[covert kestrel]

Dw about stat gear yet cause Blizz is cooking up a sick mastery rework and also reverting haste back to s3 DF so we're gonna be vers mastery gamers

[fossil lintel]

18 dfc, boomkin using one button....

[vale warren]

um ackchually we got arms colossus

[gaunt phoenix]

we know the actual set bonus?

[indigo token]

i mean

its a boomie

you dont have to try hard

[gaunt phoenix]

nice

[edgy phoenix]

that new tierset transmog aswell?

[vale warren]

presumably 2p is the same for prot and 4p is probably the same but with shield slam instead

[livid pewter]

this stupid belt is dumpin hard on my vers 😦

[red zinc]

He doing tricks on it

[indigo token]

imagine not thinking galakronds fall is the best

[gaunt phoenix]

ALL TIME

[red zinc]

streets is a solid 7.5

people can have opinions

But “generally accepted to be the best of all time” is crazy

[vivid vessel]

who said that

[red zinc]

Some reddit guy

[vivid vessel]

so i can block him

[red zinc]

Wowhead cooking too hard

3rd dh spec

[kind wing]

any dungeon with forced RP is automatically not "the best of all time"

[red zinc]

[vivid vessel]

yoooooo

finally

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel looks like its a sin meta season s3 btw

[vivid vessel]

someone that agrees

[gaunt phoenix]

seli

[vivid vessel]

no

looks like outalw meta to me

nice try bud

[proven ocean]

every dungeon has funnel

[craggy barn]

zac

[kind wing]

is that a hot take around here? really?

[gaunt phoenix]

what brings you to outlaw

[craggy barn]

u ready to get stuck in boat again

[kind wing]

you guys really ARE cooked

[red zinc]

It isnt

Hes fighting ghosts

[vivid vessel]

bro wdym

[kind wing]

had to check out your pin, cause its cute (its not, you are)

[vivid vessel]

so many people lieks these dungeons

these dogshit dungeons may i add

[proven ocean]

very good dungeons

lots of funnels

[red zinc]

what dungeons

[vivid vessel]

the dungeons with rp

[gaunt phoenix]

my pins goat

[kind wing]

streets, court

are the 2 worst offenders

[vivid vessel]

fucking dwanbreaker flight, tazavesh rp part, fall with all the waiting around in front of the walls

idk

all thjese things

[kind wing]

dawnbreaker too, ye

[vivid vessel]

where im not hitting mobs

im in a dungeon to hit mobs

let me hit mobs

[kind wing]

spires was godawful too

[vivid vessel]

thoughts ?

[proven ocean]

lol

[vale warren]

I hate all these dungeons

[kind wing]

loved losing #1 key to the angel just dropping me

[proven ocean]

floodgates and priory best sin dungeons in the entire season

and halls of attonement is broken op for sin

dawnbrreaker too

arakara too

[red zinc]

Rise is worse

Surely

[proven ocean]

gambit too

legit

every dungeon

[brave adder]

Hey how much Haste i need for KIR Build ?

[proven ocean]

lmaoaoao

[kind wing]

rise sucked but it wasnt as RNG cause at least it was the same for everyone

problem with streets and court is that the RP is decisively not the same for everyone

[red zinc]

ye i guess thats true

[novel socket]

why floodgates ?

[proven ocean]

rise was the best outlaw dungeon in s3 DF

[red zinc]

i think theyll change it

[proven ocean]

find a 3:20 kill on big momma for any mage and lmk

[inland acorn]

18-20%

[red zinc]

Now it wouldnt be anymore though

[proven ocean]

i'll wait

[red zinc]

Ks on that dungeon is cooked

[novel socket]

oh

[proven ocean]

on +19 like 1 month ago

[novel socket]

ok

i see why

[proven ocean]

sin does more funnel in priory

and way more aoe

[indigo token]

sorry i read this as "any dungeon with forced erp is the best of all time"

[edgy phoenix]

sin propaganda

[kind wing]

any dungeon where the RP can save/cost you 10-20sec over another team is just

[vivid vessel]

ok my take is

[edgy phoenix]

1 full year of doing priory and flood

[vivid vessel]

one of my favorite dungeon of all time is nokhud

if nokud didnt have flight

[kind wing]

okay

youre just

[vivid vessel]

thats my take

[kind wing]

beyond help

i mean i knew that already but this just confirms it

[proven ocean]

flight made nokhud a good dungeon

[edgy phoenix]

yeah

skipping allat

[vivid vessel]

no

[edgy phoenix]

shit

[proven ocean]

zac is just cooked

its alright tho

[brave adder]

Its KIR hard to learn ? i play 1Month HO Build

[proven ocean]

we're used to it

[vivid vessel]

you could have just have all 4 areas next to each other

and it would have been a banger

[kind wing]

nah

[gaunt phoenix]

ye it can be, just more stuff

[kind wing]

3rd boss was dogshit

[kind wing]

getting randomly oneshot for half the season cuz they couldnt figure out how to avoid people getting hit twice by the shot

[fluid meadow]

make dungeons like trial of crusader, no move mobs come!

[proven ocean]

it'll take zac many years to realize blizzard wont make dungeons for high key pushers

[kind wing]

best dungeon will forever remain DHT, dont @ me

[proven ocean]

"3 bosses close to each other xD"

[edgy phoenix]

throne of tides peak

[kind wing]

(except for poisoner spawn RNG on the first few packs, fuck that)

[red zinc]

First boss was too bogged

[vivid vessel]

?

[red zinc]

rest was great though

[vivid vessel]

wtf is a dungeon for high keys bro

[indigo token]

end time midnight season 1

[vivid vessel]

i just want dungeons where you are perma fihgintg, that are quick and no bullshit rp

[kind wing]

nah there was nothing bad about DHT except the RNG what ability dresaron woudl cast first

[red zinc]

The boss jump back into oneshot because tank leaped away

[proven ocean]

u want all of this shit

[red zinc]

Fuck that

[proven ocean]

to be together

that wont happen bud

[red zinc]

not even so much a bug as bad design

[fallow hinge]

it's a dungeon with mobs so dangerous you gotta pull them one at a time and won't unlock until you've cleared everything on a 25

[kind wing]

sounds like a tank skill issue

[vivid vessel]

i just dont want to flyu lol

it would have been a normal dungeon yue

[bright crane]

Dawnbreaker is back

[kind wing]

all the damage on 1st boss is avoidable so

[bright crane]

Surely ks gets addressed

SURELY

[edgy phoenix]

back when acro was a thing

[indigo token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255110288081162311/1374365469884289034/KillingSpreeDawnbreaker.gif

[red zinc]

I mean it was fine on high keys

Just with pugs

What a nightmare of a boss

[fallow hinge]

doesn't HoO have like almost no RP?

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel

@vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel

fast fast

[vivid vessel]

whats hooo

[proven ocean]

zac zac

why are my buffs like this

how do i fix

[fallow hinge]

hoa sorry. halls of atonement

[proven ocean]

fast the world is about to end

[vivid vessel]

idk skill issue

[random stirrup]

nah what is that deserter thing

[red zinc]

Halls of atonement has little rp ye

[fallow hinge]

hoo is halls of origination from cata

[random stirrup]

[red zinc]

just last boss a tiny bit

They gotta hard rework 2nd boss though I think

[proven ocean]

wrong, u dont know haha

[random stirrup]

[proven ocean]

it was just a broken WA

the questionmark zac

[fallow hinge]

how come?

[proven ocean]

how come u dont know

and i know

[red zinc]

No fuckin way

[proven ocean]

i thought ur WA master zac

im disappointed

no cappi

[indigo token]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[vivid vessel]

thats good ?

[indigo token]

we got a leaving larry in queue

[vivid vessel]

wdym

[indigo token]

its funny

it works sure

[vivid vessel]

i have been asking for this foerever

[indigo token]

but its so funny

[vivid vessel]

how is that not good

thats whats in every single game ever

[random stirrup]

it is good

[sullen walrus]

can someone help me with my log?

[random stirrup]

its just funny

[fallow hinge]

ur just funny

[edgy phoenix]

that shit not stopping anyone from leaving

[red zinc]

i am not doing demon 12s anymore with that

[random stirrup]

ur gonna get the bad boy mark

[red zinc]

Those resi groups where they’re “helping” their friend but suck themselves

[edgy phoenix]

still bad boy mage > good boy rogue for pugs

[vivid vessel]

i wonder how it will work with premade grps

like do i need to do a vote everytime i wanna reset the key kekw

[red zinc]

The same

yes

[past falcon]

Ideally they have a turn on turn off ability

[edgy phoenix]

just add matchmaking lmao

[past falcon]

So key holder can choose to enable

[random stirrup]

i mean if you're playing full premade presumably you don't care about being marked like that

[red zinc]

Like MAYBE they have the thought process to disable it for full guild groups since that already gets flagged

but doubt they do much else

[random stirrup]

the only penalty it looks like atm is showing that you're a leaver in groupfinder

[novel socket]

what is this shit company doing with the patch servers again

[indigo token]

also

[edgy phoenix]

prob will work like a deserter

[novel socket]

i'm downloading 0.01 mb/s

[rigid basin]

Imagine taking ur group hostage and not voting to leave a key

[indigo token]

is anyone getting the bug where the whole screen turns green

[edgy phoenix]

they just adding new ways to troll ppl

[rigid basin]

Facts

[red zinc]

For the first iteration ye

They want to do more with it later on

[fluid meadow]

i got black, and green details after, need to reload every time

[edgy phoenix]

perma ban if u fuckup

no room for mistakes with new blizzard addons

[inland acorn]

type !log and drop the logs in the thread that bot will create. If luck is on your side someone will take a look

[proven ocean]

guys

how do i remove the

x2 text overlapping

?

fast

[inland acorn]

format C drive

[proven ocean]

im gonna format ur balls

wtf maerik

[livid pewter]

@proven ocean omnicc

[inland acorn]

[fallow hinge]

in the area with show cooldown swipe etc, there's a check box for "disable timer text"

[proven ocean]

wait chat stop stop answering i already fixed it

[late swallow]

[fallow hinge]

you're welcome

[daring oxide]

ah fuck

[red zinc]

Thisll just lead to people afk’ing at the dungeon entrance instead

[daring oxide]

the new tier sets

is gonna fucking double down on killing spree right

[red zinc]

Until the rest of the group ff’s

[edgy phoenix]

did they drop it

vai

[red zinc]

No itll focus on the distract smoke cloud actually

[edgy phoenix]

actually make distract aoe silence

[fallow hinge]

not if you pick the one that buffs fatebound

[rigid basin]

100% and they aren't gonna fix it

[vivid vessel]

2set: killing spree damage and duration increased by 50%
4set: If you manage to finish your killing spree channel alive, you automatically recast a killing spree at 40% damage/duration for free

[edgy phoenix]

to make sure u die

no one lives

[daring oxide]

ok so chain reaction killing spree

[vivid vessel]

ye

[daring oxide]

Why is outlaw not specifically written here...?

[pliant wave]

where outlaw

[vivid vessel]

thats what i read in the super secreet dev discord

[daring oxide]

whats going on

why is my heart breaking

[vivid vessel]

im glad its not

[livid pewter]

cant be that much for outlaw since it wasnt worth nameing it on the news lmao

[vivid vessel]

i dont want another full rework man

[fallow hinge]

each hit of killing spree procs a new killing spree. Recursive death

[vivid vessel]

i just want ks fixed

[edgy phoenix]

outlaw gameplay is so good

rn

[vivid vessel]

and leave me alone

[edgy phoenix]

yea

just ks fix

[vivid vessel]

I dont trust them anymore

[pearl trout]

we are just a "many more"

[vivid vessel]

just fix ks and leave my spec alone

[daring oxide]

oh maybe, the 'many more' means killing spree change? and we dont get a full rework, but a killing spree fix? @vivid vessel

[edgy phoenix]

and turn distract into tear gas bomb so we have aoe silence

[vivid vessel]

athat would be idieeal poease

[daring oxide]

gonna brb and read through everything

[vivid vessel]

GUYS

WTF DO I DO

TOI GET BELT

TELL ME NOW

[edgy phoenix]

idk man

[daring oxide]

apparently quest

[edgy phoenix]

do quest

[craggy barn]

zac

can u post the dawnbreaker clip again

i lost it

[vivid vessel]

https://www.twitch.tv/zac__________________/clip/CrunchyTrustworthyTrollCoolStoryBob-P6PVKDeouOWXDVVj?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

[random stirrup]

get quest from dagran in delve area in dorn -> do two tier 1 overcharged delves while doing the questline -> belt acquired

[craggy barn]

ty

[daring oxide]

I think Realz has been busy with the new Demon Hunter void spec?

[vivid vessel]

i have to do delves ??

..

can i do big delves on alt

so i get crests

[fallow hinge]

quest is there, do a sparky delve and kill shit, when you get 50 fragments turn it in to the console halfway, then kill 4 pylons in the second half and complete the delve

you can do the first quest on an alt, yes

[random stirrup]

the first half of the questline is warbound so ya

[fallow hinge]

then you'll get the belt quest directly

[royal ermine]

aint no way the ks tier is real

[random stirrup]

but you still need to do at least 1 delve on any character who wants the belt

[vivid vessel]

?

[royal ermine]

incredible

[vivid vessel]

of course it is bro

you think i would lie

about something serious

like this

or what

disapointing

[vivid vessel]

1 !! ??

[royal ermine]

no that was more of a disbelief that blizzard actually did it

[edgy phoenix]

another assa season for u zacx

[vivid vessel]

so ryldddewr guy

you confirm i can do the questline on alt and do 11 delves

right

[frank finch]

Ok it says “ and many more” so there’s still a chance

[vivid vessel]

instead of dooing low noob dleves

[edgy phoenix]

a chance we get fucked even harder

[royal ermine]

rogue would probably have been mentioned there if we were getting a rework tbh

[edgy phoenix]

they just needa make idk blade rush function insteadd of ks

and leave t he spec alone

[frank finch]

We just focused on ks atm

[edgy phoenix]

also bring back acro

[red zinc]

they dont need to do a big rework

just ks

dont doom rn thanks

too early

cant properly doom for 2 months straight it needs to be concentrated

[pearl trout]

it would be funny they delete KS and create a new ability that's more obnoxius than KS

[edgy phoenix]

dooming whole s2

no fix

[random stirrup]

ye

but you will still need to do one delve on main

[vivid vessel]

ok

[rigid basin]

Bring back CBB

[red zinc]

not very tricky that is it

hero spec focused on stealthy trickery -> carpetbombs civilians with cannonballs

[royal ermine]

GIVE ME SBS

[vivid vessel]

resi 21

[rigid basin]

They're sneaky Cannonballs?

[red zinc]

wait r1 but they dont have the 22 ml

damn

[rigid basin]

Resil 21 lmaooo

Jesus christ

[vale warren]

can you get out of there

[vivid vessel]

nope

[timber knoll]

wait aree we stuck with kspree again

[vale warren]

lmfao

[timber knoll]

pls tell me they changing it

[royal ermine]

we dont know yet

[pearl trout]

Do I tell you they changing it or do I tell you the truth?

[edgy phoenix]

99% they will

[glass mortar]

Hero talent specific set bonuses

Kspree set bonus letsfucking goooooo

Double down on it instead of fixing blizzard I dare you

😏

[edgy phoenix]

zac out here giving them ideas

[sullen walrus]

why i cant tracking my buffs in plater?

i switch buff tracking to manual , added 2 buffs but it's not working

[normal forge]

what is the haste flask name?

[fossil lintel]

New talent killing spree of madness, killing spree deals 10x more damage but always kills you

[sullen walrus]

flask of tempered swiftness

[royal ermine]

no notes yet

[chilly fjord]

Does anyone know the macro for the new one button rotation? Or is there one?

[mighty pivot]

they forgot to mention outlaw's getting replaced by combat

[fossil lintel]

There's a new leaver system for m+, which will instantly not work because the people who want to leave will just spam the vote button and afk without doing anything

[late swallow]

resil 21 is crazy

i wonder how much they charge for 21 attempts

[keen belfry]

man why is my one button assistant pressing KS during subterfuge

[vivid vessel]

20s are like

3/5 mil

[tawdry arch]

yo boys how you guys feeling about the dungeon pool for outlaw next ssn? is it oke acceptable or bad?

[fluid meadow]

with kir build it use ambush too

[fossil lintel]

Dawnbreaker means no KS

[fallen knot]

oh also

[civic zephyr]

Don’t remember the shadowlands dungeons super well but I don’t think we will be hit capped on too many pulls, ara kara has some big pulls we struggle with for sure, DB would be a nightmare for KS

[fallen knot]

blizzard why did you read this discord when i was saying i fucking hated tazavesh?

[fossil lintel]

Unless they fix the bug with KS and moving ground

[fallen knot]

and why are you bringing back both

ffs

[tawdry arch]

which won't happen will it ?

[fossil lintel]

At this point I think it'll happen just to spite us and force us to KS another season

It honestly shouldn't be a hard fix

[sudden flicker]

anyone else's charged crystal straight up not proccing

back to charged bolts sadge

[red zinc]

proccing on what

[sudden flicker]

did an entire key and it did not do any damage

[red zinc]

did you die near the start

[tawdry arch]

hm what about like the profile of rogue working on these dungeons, I understand that the more mobs the rogue gets outshined as its target capped atm? is that a huge thing or

[sudden flicker]

didnt die once

[remote pecan]

KS has a fixed point on gally right? so i can KS on mythic on the pull during the beams as long as i dont land in a beam at the end?

[unborn basin]

🤔

[red zinc]

Its behind the boss when he’s in the middle

in front when on the sides

And when hes walking its just normal

[fossil lintel]

It's fine

[remote pecan]

great should be safe enough then i'll try it and see how many times i die tonight 😄

[red zinc]

Predicting how a class will do before ptr is live is not possible

[gaunt phoenix]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[fossil lintel]

We lose on large pulls but then have damage on the 3 pulls following

[red zinc]

like even with the worst dungeon pool of all time, outlaw could be so busted it doesnt matter

or vice versa

just wait

[covert kestrel]

No I need to freak out right now cause otherwise how will I complete my resil +14s??????!?

[rigid basin]

What if I predict KS remains unchanged

[fossil lintel]

Not for trickster on dawnbreaker, that one we know will be shit

[stuck sparrow]

sub was capped to 8t in SL

wasnt it

[covert kestrel]

Banned

[glass mortar]

No

Sub was softcapped to 8 on ss maybe

[stuck sparrow]

i still remember how i was losing to tanks on anduin

due to target cap

[glass mortar]

BP probably also softcapped

[stuck sparrow]

cringe “sub funnel” tier