outlaw

[glass mortar]

either way its obtainable once an hour

[rigid basin]

Just replace KS with CBB 🙂

Bring back pirate fantasy

[red zinc]

on the hour it starts but takes a bit longer to actually get going

xx:05 usually

[prisma quarry]

idk if a single outlaw rogue likes KS after playing it for a day

[red zinc]

truly a controversial opinion

[mighty pivot]

gl beta testing the new patch for us, 'murricans

[tight kernel]

yeye

maybe i use belt and take r1 parses from zac

[rigid basin]

All they gotta do, change nothing numerically, just make it a ground targeted aoe that plays the gangplank ult sound effect ez

[mighty pivot]

they should give kunkka's ghostship instead including the damage stagger effect for extra group utility

[strong halo]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[carmine verge]

make it a shadow clone summon that slashes x times based on x combo points

[sudden fulcrum]

like those windwalker spirits. those never have bugs!

[keen belfry]

gear your brew @ripe ibex

[prisma quarry]

or add something like bladestorm where you just spin and shoot stuff around you

[mighty pivot]

and call it something original like "piratey technique"

[hollow temple]

yo ROSS playing outlaw now

[delicate seal]

Just give us barrels to pistol shot

[rigid basin]

Next thing is gonna be a glyph that changes Crimson vial to an orange

[formal abyss]

is Improvised Seaforium Pacemaker a good trinket?

[rigid basin]

Yup, but it's worth simming just in case

[formal abyss]

i just came back so it will be better but wasnt sure if it was one of those it sims high but in reality not good ones

[gaunt phoenix]

it's good it's just crit

[keen belfry]

i wodner what will have more value for law in keys between the two gems

or waist sockets

whatever u call them

[gaunt phoenix]

would go the aoe one

if the bolts were pure prio damage then maybe

[keen belfry]

true, in a big pull if your bolt just snipe patrons its legit 0 real dmg

[gaunt phoenix]

or you pull stuff onto a boss

and it doesnt hit the boss

[fossil lintel]

Is the charged bolt just hitting randomly?

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[fossil lintel]

Does it select a random enemy or is it proccing off bf?

[gaunt phoenix]

random

target within 40y

[fossil lintel]

Wow this is useless

[rigid basin]

My group asking me to run bolts kekw, surely it will just randomly hit the boss every time

[keen belfry]

tell them no

[gaunt phoenix]

github is down 😨

[sudden fulcrum]

works for me

[fossil lintel]

Huh, I was wondering why slack was so quiet

[rigid basin]

I'll just run the verse belt thing and see if they notice

[fossil lintel]

I guess no one is getting anything done

[gaunt phoenix]

image too large

[frank finch]

not bad for an insta 3 % st

il ltake it

[red zinc]

fake damage is still damage AMEN BROTHER

[frank finch]

i guess thats the patch

cya in 11.2

[mighty pivot]

we get ptr with KS update this week

[civic zephyr]

hopefully its just removed

[unborn turtle]

!stats

[ornate heath]

A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The HO build gets Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[fossil lintel]

I'm afraid of whatever they'll do to outlaw in the name of reducing complexity

[vale warren]

theyll bring back combat

[sudden fulcrum]

KS will immediately kill you to simplify it

[echo tide]

Gcd is now capped at 1,6 instead of 0,8

To help newer players

[vale warren]

multiboxing 2 rogues just to get my fix

[bright crane]

So what are you guys running in m+? Crystal, bolt, and crit?

[fossil lintel]

If they increase the GCD to 1.6, I guess at least sin will become GCD capped finally

[mighty pivot]

not in st

[keen belfry]

probs just crystal

[bright crane]

I thought we could use 3?

Was I trippin?

[glass mortar]

u can use 3 in delves only right

[fossil lintel]

In ST they forget they are a wow character and believe they're playing FF14

[bright crane]

Brooo WHAT

[glass mortar]

yea u only get 1 power in normal content

[bright crane]

So it’s the ring

But just not as interesting

[glass mortar]

idk was the ring interesting

[bright crane]

It wasn’t

[mighty pivot]

the ring wasn't interesting at all wdym

[glass mortar]

both boring ye

[bright crane]

And this is even less interesting

[craggy barn]

its the ring but it can knock u out of stealth 🙂

[gaunt phoenix]

need to confirm that

[fossil lintel]

It feels like breathing can knock you out of stealth

[royal ermine]

idk if I'd call the ring interesting it's just a hey I don't have to care about replacing this slot handout item

[bright crane]

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say this is a certified waste of dev time rofl

[strong halo]

do you have to do arathi questline to get belt questline?

[craggy barn]

mist weavers and aug used to breath and do that

[royal ermine]

no just talk to the guy at the delve hq

[glass mortar]

belt is just strange because at this power level its gunna be replaced pretty damn quick in s3

so its like

[mighty pivot]

they are testing the waters with charged delves, it's not wasted dev time

[glass mortar]

a few months of wearing it at the end of a season

[fossil lintel]

Did they fix the aug issue? I haven't played with a single one since I came back

[glass mortar]

feels late for another source of power like this

[frank finch]

its cuz they have no class changes planned until midnight

[bright crane]

Delves are whack

[glass mortar]

if by whack u mean based af

[bright crane]

By whack I mean lllaaaammmmeeeee

[mighty pivot]

to each their own

[bright crane]

Anyways

[mighty pivot]

it's good to have different kinds of content

[bright crane]

Time to go get married

[fossil lintel]

Remember when they said raiders wouldn't need to do delves?

[stuck sparrow]

technically

you dont need to

[fossil lintel]

Right but then you're 3% of extra damage to random pad adds behind

[stuck sparrow]

I feel they're mostly thinking in terms of wf

[next wedge]

i did 5 devles and got everything i needed

it's not that bad

[stuck sparrow]

having to do m+ is infinitely worse

than delves imo

[fossil lintel]

I mostly just do m+ nowadays tbh

[stuck sparrow]

Yeah idk i'd rather not do m+ but

it rains gear like candy

[vivid badge]

anyone found the charged crystal power yet

not rly sure how to get it

[stuck sparrow]

its on wowhead

[vivid badge]

completed the delve but nothing happened

[past falcon]

u cant yet

the delve needs to be overcharged

[stuck sparrow]

wowhead literally shows where they all drop

[past falcon]

2 delves per day will be overcharged

[vivid badge]

im aware what delve it comes from

[high sluice]

im assuming our bis is charged bolts?

[past falcon]

the ones today are not helpful

[vivid badge]

but how do I get it once i complete it

well it specifically says the delve does not need to be overcharged to get the power

is that just wrong

[keen belfry]

u just have to go do nightfall sanctum

[bright crane]

I think it shows up in your belt no

[keen belfry]

then click the item u get

[vivid badge]

what item

oh

found it

ty

[fossil lintel]

Charged bolts is the default power you get no?

[mighty pivot]

wow coochqueen is back

[keen belfry]

ye

[past falcon]

oh

[cold jewel]

Coochqween

[fossil lintel]

Oh he wants crystal

[past falcon]

i thought it needed to be supercharged tf

[glass mortar]

ur supercharged 😠

[keen belfry]

reed

u no reed?

[glass mortar]

even zac doesnt read

no outlaw reads

smh

[keen belfry]

reed

[glass mortar]

who has time for reeding

[covert kestrel]

how can i read when i am blasting

[past falcon]

ok i literally did not open the belt once

so

[mighty pivot]

remember when zac needed 3 people to assist him with finding rexxar in OG?

[keen belfry]

can guide a reader to a book but cant teach reader to open the book and reader the book

[past falcon]

reader the book

[bright crane]

Learn you a book

[keen belfry]

Reader The Book

Roller The Bones

[glass mortar]

Reeder The Book

[bright crane]

Get you edumacation cause skools for peeple who don’t know nuthin

[glass mortar]

as long as it doesnt overcap charges doesnt matter

good to hold for damage amps if possible

the stacks damage gain is linear

[bright crane]

Sorry I only fuck with nonlinear damage

[mighty pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/derek-zoolander-read-school-signage-zoolander-gif-17902099

[vapid sundial]

coochqueen and awiener

[violet ferry]

Sorry I only fuck with non euclidean damage

[vapid sundial]

what a dangerous duo

[languid sapphire]

Hello, I'm new to outlaw. I've been wondering after playing a few days already what is the best thing to assess if i'm doing progress or not? I mean obviously it would be dmg but it varies alot between dungeon to dungeon party to party so i don't think its best for me at least now. Also i think i'm pretty familliar atm with rotation and know what i'm doing wrong and what need improvement. Can someone share their experience or any tips and tricks or say what's best measurement of progress is on this spec.

[dusty blaze]

AR uptime

[cinder relic]

Play the spec u like, and are most comfortable with for prog

All 3 rogue specs are fairly similar performance in raid

Oh i misread xd

AR uptime is probably the easiest thing to gauge how good ur doing overall

Good play is like 95%

So anything lower than that on average is a skill issue

[red zinc]

wat

[gaunt phoenix]

95% is perfect play and a perfect key

but yea

[red zinc]

cooked

wait sorry im concern trolling

[gaunt phoenix]

you think i'm wrong

[red zinc]

my fault

[next wedge]

95% is good

[gaunt phoenix]

[copper holly]

Guy can do 110% uptime if he tries really hard.

[cinder relic]

I'm just looking at sims

[keen belfry]

man hearing beloiw 95% average for keys got me thinking i might be the worst outlaw in here

[copper holly]

dont underestimate him

[red zinc]

if there was absolutely nothing going on in a key

i can get 95 consistently

but theres so many combat bugs, shitty downtime scenarios

its just not realistic at all

[frail veldt]

95% is a great key

[red zinc]

usually under 85 theres a clear issue in your rotation, 90 is what you should aim for

[copper holly]

we talk about 95% on details right?

[red zinc]

beyond that its just more playing

instead of clear rotational flaws

[frail veldt]

Ye

[cinder relic]

Thats more or less what I was meaning with what I said

95% is perfect play

[frail veldt]

Yeah you can get unlucky/bad rng and get closer to 90 for sure

[cinder relic]

not average ig, I just meant your goal should be 95%

[frail veldt]

Esp if you low roll on a boss

[bright crane]

https://tenor.com/view/well-actually-erm-actually-nerd-alket-funny-gif-7945222800424369539

[red zinc]

new outlaw tax evasion tech (20% more vers instead of haste) ((IRS WHO))

[gaunt phoenix]

It's a secret

[languid sapphire]

ok so i have a looooot to work around XD it varies between 55-70% depending on key done. XD Also one more thing, does my target uptime change with build i'm playing? I play for now hidden opportunity couse i'm only like almost 650 ilvl and i feel lack of haste XD

[frail veldt]

Excuse me?

[gaunt phoenix]

Nah both builds have the same average AR

The Hidden opportunity build from Faq doesn't need a ton of haste

[echo tide]

Do an outlaw tax cloak of shadows next

[mighty pivot]

while you are out of AR your cdr suffers and it punishes your uptime more, so don't despair about having 55-70% initially. It will improve significantly the more you get the hang of the spec

[gaunt phoenix]

Every global contributes to the average cooldown on AR and vanish

Rtb usage, builder and spender priority

It all comes together

[languid sapphire]

i'm comming from arcane mage so i'm prepared to suffer during learing and dealing with downtimes XD but i've already manage to manage AR time enough to have it up most of dung. The biggest mistake i do for sure is clicking to fast my spendors so sometimes i use them on 5 or less combo points which is pretty big blunder to my knowledge

[mighty pivot]

with a HO build you use them at 5 situationally

[gaunt phoenix]

The rule for HO build is 6 normally but 5 if subterfuge, opportunity, or audacity is active

[mighty pivot]

and honestly you have either opportunity or audacity (or both) very often, because of how they interact with each other

[late swallow]

KiR should be a finisher

[languid sapphire]

ye ye i know that i meant when i'm out of stealth

but its fine the muscle memory will come with the more i play the AR uptime insight was most helpful thanks very much

[mighty pivot]

you finish at 5 with opportunity or audacity even out of stealth if that isn't clear

any one of the 3 conditions is sufficient

[hybrid crown]

Has anyone messed with the healing proc on the belt as a dps

[copper radish]

If I completed last weeks dinar quest but didn’t hand it in… am I fucked today and behind a week?

[mighty pivot]

they mentioned there is a catchup now

[novel socket]

[late swallow]

[mighty pivot]

[violet ferry]

the single target belt thing is doing quite a bit of damage

[glass mortar]

Yes keep in mind it has no secondaries on it tho

[red zinc]

belt is great on details

[glass mortar]

Can't just tell it's value from looking at details

[red zinc]

proc just mostly goes on mobs that would die anyway

since its random targetting

[low sinew]

Which passive makes it so you dont have to press slice and dice i forgot

[keen belfry]

CttC

[low sinew]

👍

[late swallow]

Controlled the the Current Technique?

[low sinew]

for some reason i had slice and dice on my hotbar on a really nice keybind that keep it rolling couldve gone on

[vale warren]

it just keeps giving you the quest until youre caught up

so if youre doing raid you might wanna hearth out to hand it in and pick it up again

[late swallow]

#1 rogue is streaming rn

[red zinc]

real i just booted up

[keen belfry]

i could turn my stream on

[strong halo]

can you get the charged crystal yet on belt?

[violet ferry]

Yes, you can get any of the effects, you just have to complete the corresponding delve

[keen belfry]

im streaming guys

[strong halo]

even if its not super charged?

[violet ferry]

Correct

[strong halo]

ty for info

[violet ferry]

can speed through on Tier 1 and just get the effects

comes from the chest at the end

[dense finch]

which delve gives us the single target affect?

[violet ferry]

you get that one automatically when you get the belt

[dense finch]

oh so we chilling?

[sudden fulcrum]

you still probably want to get the others in case something changes

[lucid vale]

hey guys, we are going to prog M Mugzee this week. Is there any concern with the Charged Bolt belt proc on the mines, or is it just notated here to indicate that damage may not be as high as expected on Muggs due to the immunity?

[rigid basin]

That is the assumption yea ( I can't spell)

[glass mortar]

The concern is u will waste a ton of its damage on mines so u should use another one

It hasn't been tested yet of course and it's rng

[lucid vale]

Thank you both

[low sinew]

Is there any noticable difference in damage atm between HO and KIR on trickster or is it close enough to be more personal preference

[sullen wyvern]

So

Isn't KiR supposed to be at +18-19% haste?

I am simming the belt, and went down to 16.4%

Tried to sim removing gems and replacing crafted crit/vers gear with haste/vers

and is still using the same gear and same gems, still below 18% haste

[low sinew]

I heard KiR is 20% and HO is 17% but idk if one is actually better than the other

except on fatebound

[sudden flicker]

can anyone tell me why people are running gushing wound

[glass mortar]

because TD can pull stuff out of combat

[glass mortar]

if u think somethings wrong with a sim u can always link the sim

[tender wedge]

I roll the dice every time I mash KS, why not add some more excitement with TD is the way I see it

[glass mortar]

or if ur getting strange results

[sullen wyvern]

running the sim again

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rVT94CcnxPS749rJUYZKHM

Ok nvm, it tells me to recraft the cloack to haste vers

But i still would be below 18%

unless I do stuff during the night since NELF get the extra haste during night

[sudden flicker]

any ideas on what belt disc we might be usin

[glass mortar]

pins

[glass mortar]

its also recrafting the bracers to haste

[random stirrup]

fwiw ive been running some wack ass sims to try to approximate what losing half your bolt procs to an immune add would look like and charged bolts are still pretty good

[glass mortar]

unless ur current bracers are haste i cant tell

[sullen wyvern]

my bracers are already haste

I wanna run another sim comparing this to using the magnet from stix

[rigid basin]

[random stirrup]

even your alternative for outlaw (charged crystal) is still going to split damage onto immune mines

[sullen wyvern]

maybe pacemaker is increasing my crit value on gear

[sudden flicker]

last question 19.05% is the sweet spot for haste right? to get to 25% haste in stealth?

[random stirrup]

fight is just kind of cursed

[sudden flicker]

for KIR +alacrity

[glass mortar]

yes

[sullen wyvern]

maybe in this instance I should feelycraft and hit the sweetspot?

[warped tide]

!fu

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[glass mortar]

honestly i couldnt tell you why its having u ~1k haste short of the sweetspot

i personally dont trust sims with 2 million iterations and all this gem and enchant nonsense at the same time because its been throwing it into low precision for me too often and everything is margin of error

@gaunt phoenix u see any reason, kir not wanting 19% haste just because its aoe seems sus to me

[ripe ibex]

turn off lust in the sim

and you need to resim the gems after

[delicate seal]

why does wowhead guide suggest void

some1 should fix it

[mighty pivot]

you mean some guy

[delicate seal]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

i left you that setup you're welcome

[mighty pivot]

very generous of you

[keen belfry]

i dont think my belt is working btw

where is it

[glass mortar]

what power did u have on

[keen belfry]

the aoe bolt one

[sullen wyvern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7SmuEniw2qtJefTKBykHFG

[proper veldt]

Since when does discord print tomorrow on 00:00 xd?

[sullen wyvern]

without pacemaker it prompts me to swap to vers haste gems

Which I guess it makes sense

[glass mortar]

why does that make sense

[keen belfry]

hey thats me

[sullen wyvern]

I guess pacemaker increases my crit value

[proper veldt]

ur famous!

[sullen wyvern]

without it, it doesnt as much

[glass mortar]

pacemaker should do the opposite of that, it gives u more crit

having more crit doesnt increase crits value

[keen belfry]

maybe details bug with the belt?

i dont see the warriors belt dmg either

[ripe ibex]

most likely

[glass mortar]

the change u made that changed anything in this sim most likely is swapping to st

[sullen wyvern]

idk, is what I am guessing

[keen belfry]

did u see my previous message

[ripe ibex]

no what’d you say

[sullen wyvern]

oh wiat yorue right, I forgot I did ST on this one my bad

lmao

[keen belfry]

@ripe ibex

[sullen wyvern]

Dslice is still being worked on

[ripe ibex]

my brew is level 36 bro

[keen belfry]

well change that

lvl 80 is max rn

FYI

cant really gear up at 36 imo

[ripe ibex]

says you

[keen belfry]

i need to go buy fairlife and chicken thigh

[ripe ibex]

fairlife is so bussin man

fuck man

[glass mortar]

btw if u accuratly want to see the value of the crit meta gem u need to force it to use a mix of gem colors with the option under that gem in the sim

[keen belfry]

fairlife + espresso = gg

[glass mortar]

u probably dont wanna have all of one type of gem like these sims show

[ripe ibex]

yeah do that after

[keen belfry]

ill go to cub foods rn

anyone know what cub foods is

[ripe ibex]

wtf is foods

[keen belfry]

cuhb

midwest grocery store i guess

nvm it sjust minnesota

fuck yeah

im so local

supporting MN farmers

[ripe ibex]

minnesota 🫵 😹

[keen belfry]

chill man we dont state shame

amirite chat?

[ripe ibex]

oh mb

[sick monolith]

Unless your from Ohio

https://tenor.com/view/yes-happy-gif-24023240

[violet ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/michigan-wolverines-football-mgogif-jim-harbaugh-gif-9017798257357385332

[sullen wyvern]

Cub foods is cool

sometimes they have kickass deals

[fathom jungle]

Why should blade flurry not be cast to build CP if unseen blade procs?

[glass mortar]

cause u want to consume the unseen blade to build to coup

and avoid wasting more unseen blade procs

[fathom jungle]

And what has higher prio outside stealth? KS or coup?

If both are up

[mighty pivot]

ks

[quaint sable]

U want the cdr from Coup going into ks

[fathom jungle]

Ty

[clear zephyr]

I didnt get this

[fathom jungle]

If you press sinister you consume the unseen blade

If you blade flurry it will get delayed bc you will also spend after it

Correct me if im wrong guys

[copper radish]

mythic track chest from my vault with minimal haste / max verse GOAT'd

seraphic wraps looking good

[glass mortar]

which part

[frank finch]

patch done?

what else is there

[glass mortar]

pressing SS will consume a prepared unseen blade while pressing BF will delay it by 2+ gcds

[craggy barn]

i fucking LOST it

GDI

[bright crane]

Time to uninstall

I haven’t even seen a high vers/haste one drop yet

[craggy barn]

dh got it 😦

oh shit

[tight kernel]

aura

[gaunt phoenix]

This top result is 19.04% haste @glass mortar

Did I miss something

[tight kernel]

17.36% haste is so cursed

[keen belfry]

You saying I got alot of aura?

Ty

[tight kernel]

I shouldnt be doomed with 17.36 haste for kir right

should be fine right

[keen belfry]

Doomed

[glass mortar]

is it? i calculated 11700 haste

which is like 17.9% or something

[tight kernel]

quick sim top result and check stats

[covert kestrel]

Did you have to pay or was a dh player actually nice

[tight kernel]

shouldnt have to math anything lmao

robot kinda smart, just tells you

[glass mortar]

its not my sim profile and i was on mobile so i certainly wasnt grabbing the profile from the raw input and putting it into a quicksim myself

[craggy barn]

was nice

its a speed run pug so no one really needs it lol

[tight kernel]

3 dots > press boots > result

nothing fancy

[covert kestrel]

I had one drop in a pug a couple weeks ago and just about shit myself

And won it somehow

[gaunt phoenix]

Looks like it assumes the haste racial

[violet ferry]

Looks like, upon review of logs, that Charged Bolts is hitting 3x as often and doing 2x the damage of Charged Crystal in M+

[gaunt phoenix]

11788 rating is 19.04% after racial

[sudden fulcrum]

is charged bolts really pulling out of combat mobs?

[violet ferry]

I haven't checked

[indigo token]

getting the High Roller title

only reason im still running the raid on alts

[glass mortar]

which one is which?

is charged crystal the one in the second pic?

[violet ferry]

Charged Crystal (AoE) First Pic
Charged Bolts (ST) Second Pic

[glass mortar]

charged bolt is the name of the hit of charged crystal?

[gaunt phoenix]

Charged Crystal is really Charged Bolt in details

Because reasons

[glass mortar]

thats funny

[violet ferry]

small indie developer

Lightning Strike is Charged Bolts

[gaunt phoenix]

But yes, charged bolt is not expected to deal 4% damage in keys

[glass mortar]

@sullen wyvern fyi solo solved ur mystery

with ur 1% haste in instances racial u have 19.04%

with the amount of that top sim

[violet ferry]

I'm also not supposed to eat mayonnaise directly out of the jar, but it still happens

[sullen wyvern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/88qiVF8qAzzrmCNy33woxr

It's finalized...

so its taking into account my 1% haste at night?

so I need to do m+ at night

:pepega

[random stirrup]

Opening my breakdown to see 3% nightfall cudgel 3% delve belt 2% junk trinket 2% vexie trinket 2% capo 1% radiant power

[fossil lintel]

Outlaws getting carried by all the shitty little trinkets they stole

[violet ferry]

lore-accurate

[indigo token]

wait

what ilvl was ur belt before

[glass mortar]

no the racial is always the same in instances like raid and m+

doesnt change based on time of day

thats why sims default to haste

[fossil lintel]

Don't forget the damage proc embellishment

[indigo token]

every single raid in wow takes place at night

[sullen wyvern]

I haven't noticed it

[violet ferry]

Not Dawn of the Infinite

That was at nooon

[indigo token]

thats not a raid

[craggy barn]

LETS GO

[mighty pivot]

holy shit this naming of the procs is insane, charged bolts procs charged bolts which in turn procs lightning strike. charged crystal procs charged bolt

[indigo token]

https://tenor.com/view/noway-gif-254273188714127328

[mighty pivot]

whyyyyy do they have to do that

[fossil lintel]

Naming is hard

[glass mortar]

its so over for me @gaunt phoenix

[fossil lintel]

There's only so many cool sounding lightning abilities names

[glass mortar]

i thought i did the math right to recraft stuff with this belt to let me play all 3 builds swapping flasks

[gaunt phoenix]

um...

[glass mortar]

gunna do negative damage as kir with this

n e g a t i v e

[vale warren]

Literally unplayable

[fossil lintel]

Hey almost 10% nice

[haughty wigeon]

[glass mortar]

which ability is that....

[haughty wigeon]

you noticed it too

[covert kestrel]

Is it like one full clear a week for max rep?

[fossil lintel]

That is blizzard's ability to fuck up

[gaunt phoenix]

D.I.S.C. Belt part 5

I'm seeing some logs where Charged Bolts feels like it is doing more damage than expected, like 8-10% on some bosses and 3-4% overall in M+. However similar to Twilight Dev the proc rate can vary a lot so not sure if I'm getting baited by luck.

Whatever the case, use it while it lasts

[fossil lintel]

Is that your overall?

[gaunt phoenix]

nah that's a boss

[mighty pivot]

NA bros eating well tonight while the proc is gigabroken

[sullen wyvern]

so I was testing the NELF racial thing as you mentioned, I don't see any changes on my stats

[fossil lintel]

Maybe the person just sucked really hard and was using the one button

[gaunt phoenix]

No, it was @violet ferry in their key earlier

[fossil lintel]

Huh

[haughty wigeon]

ngl

it ould be silly to fix it tbh

i think its not gonna be touched until next patch

[fossil lintel]

Nah this shit getting nerfed before it hits EU

[proper veldt]

Here we go again, it’s the quarterly rio due to blizzard patches inflation time

[vapid sundial]

Yeah

i mean

do you want them to just not touch the gmae so theres nothing to do

they need to keep sub numbers up

so they add some small content

[proper veldt]

I mean they have ptr for a reason

But everything that’s broken makes it out of ptr too

Idk what ptr is even for at this point

[proven ocean]

Guys ngl i tried smoking and i hate the shit out of it

[vapid sundial]

For plkayers to write guides i think

[fossil lintel]

Zeross is here, hey zeross actual 10% buff st

[sudden fulcrum]

well yeah smoking is disgusting wtf did you expect

[vapid sundial]

it's so bad man
It makes me feel so sick

Like

pot or cig

[proven ocean]

Feel’s dogshit who said this shit is addictive

[fossil lintel]

Wait don't you chain smoke on your streams?

[vapid sundial]

idk i hate the feeling of any high

feels like such ass

[proven ocean]

Thats exactly what im feeling

[covert kestrel]

Drunk cigs are great and don't count as unhealthy

[proven ocean]

I like being alert alot more (coffee)

[sudden fulcrum]

i can smell smokers from like 200 feet away

it's so nasty

[vapid sundial]

Yeah my head hurts and it just makes me feel awful

[proven ocean]

My ex said u cant smell it dw just come over the smell goes away insta 💀

[covert kestrel]

I used to smoke a shitton when I lived in Mexico, like a pack and a half a day

[proven ocean]

Dumped her cuz of it

[sudden fulcrum]

good

[proven ocean]

I hate smokers idk why i tried it out of curiosity

[vapid sundial]

Its the smae with bad cat owners

people dont understand what nose blind is

[copper radish]

feels good to need 3 mythic track pieces to be done with gearing for the season... now i just need to be vault lucky for a helm, shoulder or gloves to convert to tier lol

[fossil lintel]

Can you upgrade the belt this week or is it just get it and then get the power you want?

[proven ocean]

Cant wait to try those out

Looks great

[vivid vessel]

cartel??

[proven ocean]

I love coffee

[vivid vessel]

wtf

[proven ocean]

Ye drugs cuh

[vivid vessel]

bro getting his cofee from the cartel

its so over

[hollow temple]

no

[proven ocean]

[hollow temple]

he's getting roasted by the cartel

[proven ocean]

Ngl this is like

[hollow temple]

[proven ocean]

One of the best roasteries

[vivid vessel]

ross

[proven ocean]

Ive ever tried from

[vivid vessel]

im hungy

[proven ocean]

Zac

[vivid vessel]

can you feed me uwu

i have nothing to eat ..

[fossil lintel]

It's not called the cartel in Brazil, he's safe

[hollow temple]

have some roasted zeross

$2

[proven ocean]

French tacos in ur mouth 🌮 yummy tummy uwu

[vivid vessel]

bro ross

i blasted a rookery

[proven ocean]

Sup

Wtf

U blasted the dungeon?? No one can play it now

Wtfff

[random stirrup]

it doesnt look like its doing super extreme amounts for other specs

maybe a bit more than sims would indicate

[gaunt phoenix]

of course not

[glass mortar]

inb4 its being amped by ghostly or something dumb for us

[random stirrup]

is it double dipping vers or something

[glass mortar]

scaling with a RtB buff maybe idk

[proven ocean]

Ngl

I love that i hate things that slow me down

I just like coffee

Red bulls

[vivid vessel]

before i go out ross

[fossil lintel]

Zac

[proven ocean]

Fuck other shit

[vivid vessel]

right before last pack

[fossil lintel]

Did you see the new pin?

[vivid vessel]

kinda insane or !! !

[vivid vessel]

ye

its bad

[proven ocean]

Nice i think i did same too

[vivid vessel]

i dont like it

cause

[proven ocean]

Sin is crazy good in rook aswell

[vivid vessel]

its too good

people are gonna time keys with it

[proven ocean]

Did u get 21 rook uet

Zac

Yet

[vivid vessel]

then it get nerfed back to intended damage

and its cringe

[vivid vessel]

we havent tried yet

[fossil lintel]

Do you think it'll survive long enough to reach EU?

[red zinc]

yes

itll be on eu for like half a day probably

[vivid vessel]

our 20 timer is still slightly sus for 21

[red zinc]

until lizzard gets back into work

[vivid vessel]

we might need to cook something up

our route is mega safe pussy route tbf

[red zinc]

i gotta time all the keys tomorrow morning

[vivid vessel]

wait

uits another outlaw tech ?

i tought that was for everyone

[proven ocean]

Yea looks abit sus

[red zinc]

apparently just law

[proven ocean]

Rookery is always sus without udk anyways

Cuz u cant go the normal route without dk

[fossil lintel]

Wait, is it just law?

[vivid vessel]

yeee

[proven ocean]

Nice zac

Zac

[red zinc]

i played a rookery 19 with a udk today

so slow

[proven ocean]

My brain feels weird i rly hate this nicotine shit holy fuck

[red zinc]

that class feels so utterly useless in melee comps

[vivid vessel]

like rn

[proven ocean]

Idk how to remove the high

[vivid vessel]

we dont do the hard first pull

we have a very safe route

[proven ocean]

Why dont u do the pull again

Remind me

[vivid vessel]

i mean our timer is insane for the route we do

because there is no point for us

[rigid basin]

Oh wierd

[proven ocean]

Dont no point me zac

Its just

Can u guys pull it off or no

[vivid vessel]

i mean we could but then we have to not do the pack 8 before the big pack

and that means we dont have cds

for pakc 9

or we dont have lust

we prolly have luist on 21

[proven ocean]

Wait

[vivid vessel]

but not on 20

[proven ocean]

U guys do pull 9 like usual now

?

[craggy barn]

i figured it out

[vivid vessel]

ye we do it all in one

pull 9

[proven ocean]

Thought u split it

[vivid vessel]

we did the first time we timed 20

now we do it all

for timer

[rigid basin]

Is 8 shroudable, had a tank tell me it was.

[vivid vessel]

with distract ye

[proven ocean]

Yes it is without shroud even

[rigid basin]

[glass mortar]

@gaunt phoenix u said u run like 15% haste and haste flask for HO st/kir right?

[proven ocean]

U dont need to shroud it

We did it in ptr

So ye

[rigid basin]

Oh?

[proven ocean]

Oh

Im dumb

I thought u meant 9

My bad

My brain is too fucked rn dont mind me

[rigid basin]

Just distract and hug other side?

[proven ocean]

Yea u have to distract it but oh

Wait

Wtf

Zac

[strong cargo]

Distract is very suggested here, the skip is close and people will ninjapull it

[proven ocean]

I think rook 21 with double rogue dk is insta timed

U can double distract pull 9

And kill 2 guys

And finish that pull in few seconds only

[vivid vessel]

you mean double sap?

or what

[proven ocean]

Or that yea

[red zinc]

new distract combat tech

[strong cargo]

You're high ?

[proven ocean]

We did do that in ptr zac

Wouldnt say high i just smoked a good amount

Fuck that shit tho

Dont try, feels like shit

[red zinc]

do drugs to time high keys got it

[proven ocean]

[rigid basin]

"high" keys

[proven ocean]

True

[rigid basin]

[slate plaza]

poop

[proven ocean]

Ngl i wish i could drink some coffee but its 3 am

I love coffee no cappi

[strong cargo]

[ripe ibex]

still can

[proven ocean]

Guys any bodybuilders here

[ripe ibex]

@keen belfry

[proven ocean]

I’ll coach u rogue any spec u want to the teeth but i want bodybuilding tips

[rigid basin]

God I need coffee, running on 3 hours of sleep and gonna get like 2 tonight

[proven ocean]

Realz typing hi realz

Love u cuh

[vapid sundial]

and you scared him away

wtf zeros

[rigid basin]

Yeah wtf zerocool

[vapid sundial]

ngl id run from ross too

[proven ocean]

Me too no cappi

I’d run from ross what a weird guy

[vapid sundial]

what a freak

[red zinc]

is marksman hunter bogged or what

only heroic logs out rn to look at the belt thing

[keen belfry]

yes

[red zinc]

but these mfs are cranking

[vapid sundial]

@keen belfry

[proven ocean]

@keen belfry

[vapid sundial]

winer

[ripe ibex]

ross is looking for a massive body builder

[red zinc]

4.3m ST on like 2m30 bossfight

[keen belfry]

I got U Zeross

[proven ocean]

Hi awang u bodybuilder?!

Wait really

[peak dock]

might be a stupid question but what happens to mis D.I.S.C. if i nitro boost them?

[vapid sundial]

ross u wont believe this

[keen belfry]

no...

[random stirrup]

its been busted before the belt

not related

[keen belfry]

im so strong its crazy tho

[vapid sundial]

not playing wow every day is a good way to gain muscle

[red zinc]

can you bench me

[copper radish]

did they like secretly increase a 5 roll chance? feel like ive got 100x more tonight than i have any other day lol

[proven ocean]

Guys guys stfu for a sec i have so much energy to type and i cant fucking get my satisfaction out typing in a 4 incher touch screen iphone ffs

[red zinc]

nah thats just rng you get 0 5 rolls tomorrow

[rigid basin]

That's RNG baby

[glass mortar]

u cant

[proven ocean]

Hold on no one type till i come back

OK

SILENCE CHAT

[vapid sundial]

shut up

[keen belfry]

yeah hehe blushes

[vapid sundial]

ill kiss you

[proven ocean]

[rigid basin]

Nah

[proven ocean]

Dont nah me wtf

[vapid sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-gif-6873726998111817089

[peak dock]

oh fuck

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-cat-ghoul-gif-15685393113271845735

[ripe ibex]

r u you good

[rigid basin]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-han-sung-kang-fast-x-no-gif-9009623534519168477

[keen belfry]

ross u will never make it unless u juice and also go giga focus outlaw mode on your diet

[proven ocean]

ok im back

guys

anyone

wanna play outlaw keys

!>!>!>!>!>!>>!>!>!>!>!

oh

my keyboard has remapped keys

cant send questionmarks

wait i fix

brb

[red zinc]

man i gotta do timewalking for 5 weeks for dragon

crazy world we live in

[glass mortar]

oh shi did the event start

[rigid basin]

If I wasn't gonna go see a show I would lol

[vapid sundial]

is that why we cant understand what teh fuck ross is saying half the time

[proven ocean]

!>!>!>!>

fuck

still fked

[vapid sundial]

he has remapped keyboard

[proven ocean]

sec

?!?!?!?!

okok

lets goo

guys guys

anyone wanna do triple outlaw keys on retai

retail

no cappi

[vapid sundial]

yaeh sure juist let me buy on eu

and sub

and boost

a character

[proven ocean]

okok waiting for ur boost

guys guys guess what

[vapid sundial]

deitKEK

[red zinc]

boost me zaddy

[proven ocean]

nvm nothing to guess

1 sec

loggin in

[icy cedar]

is charged bolt bugged for everyone or just us

[proven ocean]

idk cuh

we're eu plebs

we dont know new stuff

cuh

[frank finch]

i have charged bolts and i never see in in my details is there a equip unequip thing agoing on

[sullen walrus]

will we use dispatch on max cp? or only ss?

[proven ocean]

[proven ocean]

what the cow

why would u max cp dispatch

[icy cedar]

it's putting me in combat with random mobs across the screen doing questing stuff

[rigid basin]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[proven ocean]

never force that

[glass mortar]

u use it at finisher rules, it varies depending on ur build

[pliant wave]

It does not work on target dummy

[icy cedar]

like it flies across the map to some other mobs that are in combat

[neat mist]

what the cow

[glass mortar]

5+ under some circumstances, usually 6+

[covert kestrel]

Just do the alt method it's ez

[frank finch]

[sullen walrus]

finishers rules?

[glass mortar]

yes

[proven ocean]

GUYS WTF I NEED WEEKLIES

[sullen walrus]

what is it? xD

[proven ocean]

I NEVER NEEDED WEEKLIES BEFORE IN MY LIFE

[glass mortar]

#1276307559061524652 message

[red zinc]

u got a few hours

lock in

[covert kestrel]

I want to see Ross stream pug 10s

[proven ocean]

guys anyone wnana do keys

!!!!

[proven ocean]

me too

[gaunt phoenix]

of course the thing doesn't proc on dummies, why would it...

[frank finch]

anywher i can go to like check out the proc rate first hand or

[rigid basin]

Last week I had 1 dungeon done, thank God it rolled pacemaker

[indigo token]

😭 girl if ur doing 21's you dont need weeklies

i think ur fine

[covert kestrel]

Girl

[proven ocean]

Girl

[vivid vessel]

slayyy

[glass mortar]

wowhead has it at 1.5 hasted rppm

[proven ocean]

black

dont

even

think about it

ok

dont post

[frank finch]

i dont see this thing proccing on anything im fighting

[proven ocean]

cuz

i know what u wanna post

black

[rigid basin]

https://tenor.com/view/ghetto-nails-pooh-winnie-the-gif-18810613

[proven ocean]

nvm

[frank finch]

[proven ocean]

i dont know what u wanted to post black

i take it back ok

[vapid sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lewd-cat-dumb-gif-7213020066017231983

ross needs a nap

[glass mortar]

took 3 packs for it to proc for the first time in this random normal dungeon i just entered

but it procced

[vivid vessel]

did he it one shot the pack

[glass mortar]

no

critting for 1m

500k normal hit

so each proc would be what

5 hits per proc

like 3-5m damage

[frank finch]

alright this was 2 mins on delve boss

the ????? dude

[indigo token]

wtf

also can I be real

blizzard has been doing everything in their power to fumble this raid tier

like arent corruptions and turbo boost just new borrowed power

[glass mortar]

sure but why is that fumbling the tier

too many people getting CE?

[indigo token]

nah its not about prestige or anything

its just having to do so much shit outside of just M+ and Raid to get power

which yeah is engaging with systems

but I think that stuff should be catch up

[glass mortar]

i mean all this shit was added after the raid tier was already farmed by many

[sullen wyvern]

Did they just patch Lightning Strike's damage?

[glass mortar]

all this borrowed power has done is made the raid turbo farm mode

u didnt need anything close to the power they provided to reasonably get CE

[indigo token]

as my guild is on sprocket prog

i hate this boss

[glass mortar]

its just stuff to keep engagement up later in the season

honestly more toxic for m+ people who wanna be done with the push'

every couple weeks u got a new borrowed power bump that might unlock new timeable keys

and make the keys u were struggling with much easier

[vivid vessel]

Ye

I don't really like it

You feel like you need to do everything all over again

[glass mortar]

for actual raiders its just them nerfing the raid tier for u more and more every couple weeks

and sure it might take an hour or two outside raid engaging with some other content

thats pretty nice to turbo nerf the raid tho

cause this raid was clearly not tuned around us being 684 ilvl and having corruption and belt xd

[random stirrup]

wdym bandit being a 4minute fight was clearly intended

[red zinc]

Look I didnt mind turbo boost at all

but the rest doesnt need to be done again

Maybe uncap crests a few weeks before next time so the grind doesnt feel as shite

[copper radish]

70 gilded from 2 delves is crazy work with these updates lol

have so many idek what to spend them on

[next wedge]

i really dont like the new dmg proc belt

its taking me out of stealth in keys

[copper radish]

you using that charged bolts proc on it?

[next wedge]

yea i keep forgetting to swap it

[glass mortar]

i think charged bolt is probably the play right now it appears to be doing too much damage

need more testing tho of the other one

[copper radish]

ST and AOE it looks good in

not far behind the AOE one on the sims

0.1% is nothing lol

[quaint sable]

Ran a key with charged crystal and it did 30M dmg. it procced 37 times feels terrible 😦

[glass mortar]

it sounds to me like something is bugged if its doing that little damage in that many procs

[quaint sable]

unless details is logging it poorly

[keen belfry]

shoul di kill mugzee tn as rogue or mage

[glass mortar]

i wonder if its splitting damage into corpses

🙂

did they check the flags

xd

[quaint sable]

I mean It had 37 hits*

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel

zac did u think of buying one of those new insanely fast keyboards btw
they're way faster than normal keyboards that most ppl have
ngl its quite noticeable

[quaint sable]

but still over a 30m +15 priory is low

[proven ocean]

@frail veldt u free for a keyboard talk c uh

cuh

[stray star]

charged bolts for for ST and m+ ?

[proven ocean]

yes

always charged bolts

no matter what

[copper radish]

dmg from it lookin nasty

[glass mortar]

30m damage is like 6 procs of charged bolt

which u will have waaaaaaaaaay more then over a dungeon

[proven ocean]

i hope this belt stays this way ngl

[glass mortar]

even if charged bolt isnt bugged

[proven ocean]

ngl man

i wanna play that shit

this is what i love in wow

so much

[glass mortar]

sounds like the other thing is bugged anyway

[proven ocean]

things being overpowered

like

plz

stop

making shit things

[haughty wigeon]

not really

[proven ocean]

1-2% shit

plz

like

man

i love 10% shit

[haughty wigeon]

but turbo boost is aids

i agree

lowkey

[proven ocean]

yes turbo boost is whatever bro

but

[haughty wigeon]

im sick of everything being

[proven ocean]

10% items

omg

i love this

[haughty wigeon]

2% of shit

embelishments? .2% difference and overal

pog wow great

[proven ocean]

like

[haughty wigeon]

corruptions being 4ish is alright

[proven ocean]

u have to recraft shit too

for like

[haughty wigeon]

but im sick

of 2% gains

[proven ocean]

top 0.0000000000001% keys

and

to do the highest dps possible

its annoying

[haughty wigeon]

trinkets?

lmao

all of them are shit

or stats

pick one

[proven ocean]

sin trinkets are broken op

[haughty wigeon]

especially for tanks

fuck sin

[proven ocean]

ngl house of cards is undersimming

for sin

its not even close

[haughty wigeon]

grandpa spec

[proven ocean]

for m+ that is

[frail veldt]

Narp heading to gym right now

[haughty wigeon]

cool i love stats

WOW STAST

SO COOL STATS

[indigo token]

sin is an unc spec

[haughty wigeon]

:)

remember this?

[quaint sable]

HARD TO FORGET

sry caps

[proven ocean]

hi guys

im purple

sheeeeesh

[quaint sable]

hi purple

[haughty wigeon]

this maybe

:)

[fossil lintel]

belt seems to be 3-4% on raid

[proven ocean]

omg

for sub

it was soooooooooo

goooooooooood

[proven ocean]

for outlaw it was sooooooooooooooo baaaaaaaaaaad especially that it was hitting dead mobs without us knowing @gaunt phoenix im wondering how we didnt figure it out in SL

holy shit solo no cap tho