outlaw

[leaden folio]

it is time for the physical comp to kick out mage from the meta

[hybrid crown]

We are moving from a tier to s tier next season boys

Outlaw meta inc

Also I bet lightning proc will be bis belt for outlaw

[fallen knot]

vers one aswell i guess, since it has 1s cd and outlaw has <1s gcd

depends on the procrate

[leaden folio]

i have already 40% vers

[fallen knot]

the more the better

i am still chasing that df s3 high

[leaden folio]

outlaw tank spec soon

[fallen knot]

like hear me out

make evasion have 1m cd, leave the rest as it is, maybe give it armor or some shit

and the whole tanking is playing outlaw like now to reduce cd of evasion and just dodge every melee ever, best tank

[mighty pine]

Bring back the defensive we lost in bfa

The spinny daggers rotating around the character model

[leaden folio]

no

the defensive we got that replace evade doesnt work for physical distance dmg

some boss like captain eudora from freehold was impossible has outlaw because of that

[fallen knot]

wait doesnt evasion dodge ranged arrows?

[leaden folio]

yes

the best exemple i have in mind are the last boss from the candle delve

he thow you something, you can dodge with evade

[fallen knot]

aa so evasion is better you're saying

i did not understand

[leaden folio]

(it was a candle so I was thinking it was COS)

ye

evade can dodge bullet

the cd replacing evade we got wasn't

[fallen knot]

i am being cooked alive rn, 35degrees is brutal

[mighty pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2heavy-outsmart-maybe-bullet-gif-22429834

[mighty pine]

Bring back riposte

[leaden folio]

nay

riposte bad

or buff it

we already meme-ing "oh you play the wow spec fiora from league of legend"

coz of killing spree

[mighty pine]

Give KS invincibility frames

[fallen knot]

it already has them

[mighty pine]

Buff riposte

[fallen knot]

the last one is bugged

so you get killed there most of the times

[mighty pine]

Also be cool to have combat rogue back as a 4th spec

[knotty needle]

outlaw rogue but instead of using 2 one handed weapons it uses a shield and 1 one handed weapon and instead of being a pirate it's a holy defender and actually just rename it to Protection

[wintry solar]

I will say

WoW has some of the more unique names for specs in any given MMO

[leaden folio]

you dont have all of that

you just use outlaw rp from bfa

[indigo token]

how about this

[leaden folio]

"vampire pirate"

[indigo token]

surrender to madness

but instead of going insane

it's russian roulette

and when it ends you kill yourself

https://tenor.com/view/cinema-gif-5935759059195122434

[knotty needle]

yeah like protection warrior
and protection paladin
and restoration shaman
and restoration druid

[wintry solar]

And holy priest and holy paladin

[knotty needle]

cant believe i forgot that one

[wintry solar]

Noob

Fake wow fan

[knotty needle]

it's because holy paladin is the 1 spec ive never played

[wintry solar]

It's my favorite healer

I like how thematic it is

[knotty needle]

idk wouldnt holy priest be more thematic

[wintry solar]

Idk

I also dc

Because hpal wears plate

[knotty needle]

cant argue with that

[wintry solar]

And has a golden glowy book

[knotty needle]

but priest always gets the best transmog

[wintry solar]

So they can for sure read

[knotty needle]

them and warlock

except this tier set for some reason the priest one looks like garbage

[mighty pivot]

it's a colouring book

[late swallow]

Guys can we please cut the chatter

Clear comms

[knotty needle]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-leopard-rolling-around-silly-fast-sped-up-gif-15318970127570270056

[late swallow]

[knotty needle]

https://tenor.com/view/ghoul-warcraft3-evil-gif-15230078

[knotty needle]

https://tenor.com/view/dread-lord-warcraft3-evil-gif-15230077

[red zinc]

me at 3am looking for the leftover pizza

[wintry solar]

Us 3 posting memes in outlaw channel

[fallen knot]

ok now i need to ask

is remnant+pacemaker a good trinket combo or is wox trolling me?

for m+ that is

i still have a dinar buy and i'm thinking about getting pacemaker cause i will probably never kill stix with my rogue

[sudden fulcrum]

who or what is "wox"?

[red zinc]

remnant is fine but wouldnt be my prefered choice

would just get any combo of whistle/pace/magnet

[fallen knot]

i have geargrinder myth but i read somewhere sometime that sometimes it doesnt work

i have hero magnet

[red zinc]

its like

4 bosses where it doesnt work either most or all of the time

and then also bugs sometimes on packs

depends on your dinar sitch but its still better than hero magnet fs

[vivid vessel]

bigest isue of geargrinder imo

is its a split damage trinket

split damage is so bad

[fallen knot]

i am playing geagrinder and magnet rn

[vivid vessel]

for so many things

think for example

[fallen knot]

but i'd like to play 2x myth trinkets

[vivid vessel]

of evertything after first pack cinder

[fallen knot]

and i'd play remnant and macemaker

[red zinc]

just get pace and then cart with your last dinars

[vivid vessel]

when you are fighting mewie

you want prio and your trinket goes to irrelevant mobs

then you go boss

and you pull on boss

and the trinket is splitting still

the whole boss

same on the bee boss

on the last 4 adds that heals

trinket split

you want st

i hate split damage trinkets

pet peave of mine

[late swallow]

Literally me watching a fully grown “person” finish a box of candy and just throw it on the ground

[vivid vessel]

trash

[fallen knot]

zac i iwll play some keys as kir now

now that i'm full bis

[late swallow]

People who litter and don’t return the shopping cart are less than human fr

Glop people

[fallen knot]

so i will flood you with questions prepare yourself

[vivid vessel]

ok

i wont asnwer

[vapid sundial]

[wintry solar]

Most acceptable response

[fallen knot]

i will still flood you with questions

[vapid sundial]

I'm gonna flood somnius with something else

[late swallow]

Haha ohhh noooo haha stooooppp

Tell me where you’ll be so I can avoid you at all costs

[jolly geyser]

[fallen knot]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[fallen knot]

is the problem of macroing gs only that you targetswap or use it on a dying target?

or it's also that you endup wasting 1-2cp sometimes

[vivid vessel]

you can waste cp yes

for exmaple you can be at 4 cp with bs

and you press gs finisher

you cant really do that with gs macroed

[fallen knot]

yea ok

and you have less control on your cps aswell

right

[vivid vessel]

Yes

It's not great

[fallen knot]

like, it's basically scripted how much cp you get at a given time

[vivid vessel]

But not terrible either

Yes

[fallen knot]

ok

it's weird tho

i wont macro it prob

i mean i can macro it to trinkets, and spam that bind, since i do it for magnet

but again not optimal for vulnerability windows

[covert kestrel]

idk i have never felt tight on binds on outlaw so dont really see any reason for someone to macro it except for forgetting to use it

[fallen knot]

thats mostly the reason

the forgetting about it part

it's solvable by making a gigantic wa in the middle of my screen like some guy did

[red zinc]

"some guy"

[fallen knot]

i dont remember who it was

[mighty pivot]

probably some no-name

[keen belfry]

imn hungry

[fallen knot]

ok i have to say

[royal ember]

trynna use the weapon swap macro and it equips cudgel in main hand

[fallen knot]

on target dummies at least kir is omega

[royal ember]

anyone know what that's about ?

[fallen knot]

i just hit them for 10minutes and did 8m

still getting coup AFTER ks wrong but i'll fix that

[mighty pivot]

are you using the pinned macro? and what are your weapons?

[royal ember]

using this #showtooltip 17
/equipslot 17 Nightfall Curseblade's Cudgel
/equipslot 17 Crowd Favorite

got double crowd

[mighty pivot]

what might be happening is that it equips your mainhand into your offhand, effectively making the cudgel mainhand

[fallen knot]

double crowd fucks it up

it swaps between them

[royal ember]

fucking rip

[fallen knot]

either dont weaponswap

[royal ember]

I guess I go crafted offhand then

[mighty pivot]

you can use specific bag slots to swap it properly

[fallen knot]

or get another offhand

[royal ember]

I have crafted

prob won't make a huge difference

[fallen knot]

or do what ninjarobot says but i have no idea how

[royal ember]

hmm me neither

using crafted OH fixed it thanks boys

[mighty pivot]

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/MACRO_equipslot if you want to try the bag slot approach

[royal ember]

thanks a lot my man I'll give it a gander

[glass mortar]

U can make a macro to swap an Inventory slot

With bag slot

It works with double crowd favorite. I've posted it in here before if u search my name and macro

#outlaw message

There it is

@royal ember

[royal ember]

cheers mate

got it it works now appreciate it fellas <3 thanks for the help

[keen belfry]

sup delve @glass mortar

[mighty pine]

Ive heard about this , is this useful for 12+ keys swapping with that weapon?

[fallen knot]

how do i behave when

i have kir up

and only roll 2buffs 3 times in a row

[lime lake]

poorly

[fallen knot]

ok

[covert kestrel]

you gotta count those odds

[keen belfry]

i did a ML yesterday, 3rd boss i rolled 1 buff 4 times

i did not blast that boss

my true bearing had 28% uptime

i truly couldnt bear it

[violet ferry]

Any new KS bloopers we can all laugh ||cry|| at?

[eternal iron]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean look at the names

the chineses are so funny man

[teal wing]

explain

[vivid vessel]

they just share accounts

[proven ocean]

explane

[vivid vessel]

tchan is one guy

[proven ocean]

u cant know that

[vivid vessel]

2 chars

i know that wdym

[proven ocean]

?

[fallen knot]

ok zac

[proven ocean]

so me and you shared accounts back in s3 DF cuz i was tompelvis?

[teal wing]

its his brother they just share same battlenet

[vivid vessel]

no lol

[fallen knot]

5.56m on priory 15

[proven ocean]

then?

[fallen knot]

good or bad

[vivid vessel]

its just well known they share accounts in china

[fallen knot]

was my 2nd key as kir

[vivid vessel]

also its well known

[leaden folio]

zeross

[fallen knot]

good or bad

[vivid vessel]

and i know this guy

and he did it in s1 aswell

[leaden folio]

open the website where they stream

[vivid vessel]

he was playing keys on 2 characters

[proven ocean]

[leaden folio]

you will see the same stream

[vivid vessel]

with naohter guy

[leaden folio]

play 10 different mage

at +20

you will understand they are sharing account

[proven ocean]

so echo is account sharing

cuz each player has 10 mages

[vivid vessel]

I mean i know this guy tho ross

[proven ocean]

and 10 rogues

and 10 druids

[vivid vessel]

and i know he did it in s1 aswell

[proven ocean]

u know that chinese guys have a rwf guild

right?

yea zac i know

[late swallow]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/486284970806083584

[proven ocean]

there are many that account share anyway

[late swallow]

let's cut the chatter guys

[proven ocean]

@gaunt phoenix somnius is posting weird gif's again get him out no cappi

[fallen knot]

actually op kir is bis spec

[proven ocean]

💀

@vivid vessel i found tacos in auctionhouse

u think its french

or

[fallen knot]

feels so fucking good i am stunned at how i played ho this whole time

[vivid vessel]

in s1 he was sharing acount with another shaman

and he had r1 keys

on both shamans

it was funny

[vivid vessel]

💀

[fallen knot]

and double outlaw keys are bis aswell

[leaden folio]

every tacos are not french

but every french tacos are banger

[bright lodge]

It was really fun. ggs

[rigid basin]

Why not triple outlaw keys 👀

[teal wing]

we can do some when i finshed download

[leaden folio]

we have done some triple outlaw key

[fallen knot]

yes triple outlaw might be even better

[leaden folio]

not +20, but I have done some of them

[fallen knot]

prot warr and either monk or druid healer

[indigo token]

yknow

does anyone have footage of gameplay with that outlaw exploit back in nerubar

the one that gave you 5 extra combo points on every finisher

[hybrid crown]

Haha good times

[indigo token]

ive seen a ton of news posts and logs of it

but never any footage

[vivid vessel]

there is not much to see tbf

it doesnt even look that different from current outlaw

if you roll a 6 buff then extend it with kir

[hybrid crown]

Basically vanish came off CD constantly and you just spammed bte and vanish

[vivid vessel]

you can extend it again

which we did permanently with the bug

since it was a lot of cdr

[carmine verge]

is there any way of making the camera stay still during killing spree?

i don't even care about losing control of the character at this point, but i'd rather not get nauseous while playing

it's rough

[latent oak]

there's a weakaura somewhere the blacks out ur screen during ks

https://wago.io/sxluMtTVM

maybe this?

idk

[indigo token]

wait that makes me think

how many bugs are there still in KIR

apparantly a lot of beneficial ones?

[random stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB-7Z5aay3c

i was rather rusty on law at this point but here's a random weekly key

[cinder relic]

Just the container stuff but that's more of a CTO bug that kir leverages than a kir bug

[vivid vessel]

its basically just that your first roll after kir stays

its a "bug"

but its been that way with cto since forever

idk how much of it is a bug

and how much of it is just how its supposed to work

by now

[mighty pivot]

and you cannot always tell what's intended because the tooltips of the game are very bare bones (sometimes for a good reason)

[reef forge]

has anyone seen first boss rookery start aoe beams and then jump back down to hit tank and also do beams?

[vivid vessel]

ye

idk why it does that

[reef forge]

finally get resi 19 and i get stuck with rookery

im in jail

[vapid sundial]

just time it

[reef forge]

never thought about that tbf

[mighty pivot]

save your CDs for the burst phase of last boss

[rigid basin]

I remember having 90% uptime in evasion cuz I bound it to BTE lmao

What was crazier than the bug was the people saying that this was how outlaw should be played

[random stirrup]

ya that was crazy

literally one button rotation just pressing bte and getting infinite resets straight into vanish again

[late swallow]

i think the most people were saying is that the CDR should be more like that

not the actual rotation

[red zinc]

I mean people will like anything that is op

for a bit

[random stirrup]

even that was dumb

[red zinc]

like uhdk is the most boring thing ever

[hybrid crown]

You could macro like most of the rotation to one button now that I think about it lol

[red zinc]

But seeing 50m dps from double blood beast was still fun for a lil bit

just not enough depth to it

Same wouldve been true if this bug lasted more than three days

[late swallow]

sorry I don't make the rules

[random stirrup]

guy would have typed whatever was the opposite of what the general opinion was

so this could easily be real

[late swallow]

honestly you're right lmfao

[red zinc]

If outlaw got every single thing on his wishlist would he be happy?

Unstoppable force vs immovable object

[indigo token]

oh that's a bug?

i lowkey love that

[indigo token]

i miss acrobatic strikes

[cinder relic]

[vivid vessel]

I mean idk

cto been that way since sl

idk how much of it is bugged or intended now

[rigid basin]

Stretchy arms were so good x.x

[vivid vessel]

if this "bug" wasnt there

[red zinc]

That was already the new one

[vivid vessel]

kir gameplay would be significanly worse

so idk

maybe its not so much a bug, rather kir buffs should be diff buffs and stay forever until they expire

instead of this weird middle ground

[red zinc]

Hear me out

[indigo token]

imagine next season they make fatebound function off greenskins wickers to make it relevant somehow

[cinder relic]

Ideally there would be a reconciliation of some sort to make KiR less buggy, more intuitive, and leave it interesting

Although idk what that specifically could look like

[vivid vessel]

I mean i think they could geniuly just have a dif icon

[red zinc]

what if kir locked in those buffs and then allowed you to get dupes with the next roll, tracking would be a nightmare

[vivid vessel]

like a lock on top of it

[red zinc]

but

[vivid vessel]

and stays forever

[vivid vessel]

why dupes

[red zinc]

2x tb kinda lit

[vivid vessel]

ah

that would be weird

[red zinc]

ye

idk im just saying shit

[late swallow]

dupes would be crazy

[indigo token]

i mean you could just have the rotation helper highlight it when you have 4 or more buffs from RTB up

[late swallow]

double RP?

[rigid basin]

Feel like it's too vague for the base Ui to track too, for them to be all war on Addons they have so much they need to address first

[red zinc]

the locking thing and then rerolling into the same ones again would be awkward

[random stirrup]

im sure they'll just make it a passive node where combo point spending extends your current rtb buffs by a small duration

[late swallow]

just omega giga crit

[indigo token]

since that's the general rule of KIR

[red zinc]

Like its not able to be visualized

[cinder relic]

[red zinc]

with their technology

[vivid vessel]

that would be unfortunate since the button itself is quite fun

[cinder relic]

or rtb no longer rerolls, but adds

But has a longer CD

[red zinc]

That and supercharger existing in the same class might be the worst thing ever

or what guy says yes

[indigo token]

i dont mind supercharger

extra cp is nice

[red zinc]

idk we’ll see next week (surely)

[indigo token]

anyway

has anyone simmed the new belt for outlaw

[random stirrup]

ye but u heard the interview

outlaw too complicated

[indigo token]

not a fan of doing delves this late into the season

[random stirrup]

the supercharger thing is a good reason though

[cinder relic]

dont think so yet but probs the same as everybody else

charged bolts

[indigo token]

ehhh

I think outlaw is pretty simple apart from KIR

that may just be because of my experience playing it

[random stirrup]

they do not think so

[indigo token]

there's def classes that are leagues less intuitive than outlaw (Unholy DK, Brew, Pres Evoker, Arcane)

[cinder relic]

What ion thinks specifically is outlaw is too hard to play without weakauras

[random stirrup]

well

that is true given its impossible essentially lmao

[indigo token]

again I think that's only KIR. and even then don't you have some way to move where your RTB buffs are on your screen

[random stirrup]

unseen blade is rather nice to have a wa for

[hybrid crown]

If you lust on pull with mugzee can you skip the 4 jail

[cinder relic]

U can skip the 2nd jails which are on the dirt side

[indigo token]

oh yeah unseen blade i forgot about that

[rigid basin]

If you got blasters you don't even need lust to skip 2nd jail

Send it at end of intermission lines up with 2 min CDs usually

[indigo token]

i prog mythic sprocket again on sunday

i hope we can get it down this week so we can do OAB

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-13317869321893531471

AGGREGATE LIMIT REACHED

[vapid sundial]

My favorite part was enh doing more dmg than this bugged outlaw after their rework

[indigo token]

season 1 was a mess

[vapid sundial]

The only reason enh was left to be that strong is bc the spec has never been bis afaik

and has always jjust been mid

[indigo token]

i never want to see siege or dawnbreaker or stonevalt again

[mighty pivot]

it's already included on fuu's spreadsheet both for patchwerk & dslice

[strong halo]

does it ever happen to anyone to not have 4 stats roll for first like 1/3rd of an m+???

i legit could not roll past 2 stats

[vapid sundial]

please call it buffs

😠

[indigo token]

hes not wrong through

an added .5 seconds of cdr is a stat

[vapid sundial]

and you can say literally everything is math

[rigid basin]

My favorite was "Champion, get to the Dawnbreaker" but the boat just wasn't there. One of the buggiest dungeons I've ever seen lmaooo

[indigo token]

or you just fly through it

i bet it feels awful with outlaw too

[honest sparrow]

Killingspree just always killed you on the little ships

[mighty pivot]

killingspreeonboat.gif

[indigo token]

i need a gif of that

i need to build my KS gif collection

[mighty pivot]

there are at least two around

[strong halo]

unlucky or skill issue?

[mighty pivot]

#outlaw message this is one

[indigo token]

holy shit

[late swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255110288081162311/1374365469884289034/KillingSpreeDawnbreaker.gif

doesn't have the gif version

gonna be a yikes from me

[rigid basin]

That's is so funny lmao

Glad I played Assa last season

[late swallow]

i mean, everyone played assa last season

even zac was assa

[rigid basin]

Guildies of mine didn't, they tried it for ovi for like 5 pulls before swapping back to outlaw lol

They hate Assa about as much as I hate sub

[hybrid crown]

My team it felt like a bunch of good aoe'ers were fighting for parasite dmg and we really needed more worm damage

I just went outlaw and hard swapped to my interrupt worm, then the other worms

[late swallow]

assa was omega giga on ovi

especially on mythic

[hybrid crown]

I felt like I still pulled my weight at least

[cinder relic]

It was only giga if ur guild didn't have fdks/furys

[late swallow]

we only had one fdk

and a ret

[cinder relic]

ya we had double fdk double fury

[hybrid crown]

It was good being out of the mele pile of death too. Brood and Stix both

It's so hard to see when there's too many mele

And incinerate on stix was really bad with too many mele

I'd just grapple out and go kill hover bois and bomb crabs

[rigid basin]

They were surprisingly close to me in funnel so it wasn't griefing all too much

[late swallow]

oswalb the goat

@dawn talon we miss you king

[rigid basin]

Yeah I'm so glad I've got another outlaw enjoyer in guild was the only rogue in guild for ages

[vapid sundial]

Its so funny cuz

rogues either like sub / sin and hate outlaw

or like outlaw but hate the other 2

on the avg

[carmine verge]

outlaw gave me the most deranged gambler moments in my wow life

impossible to ditch it for the other rogue specs

every 5-buff rtb instance was a recreation of this video here, with the warrior starting at the bottom and then going to the top https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hMqvb8QiUk

[mighty pivot]

our tier set is called spectral gambler for a reason. You gamble and you die

[royal ermine]

that is still one of the best wow videos ever made

[worldly shale]

is there a way to macro weapon swap without it fucking up, with 2 crowd favorites

or should i give up and just use heroic capo

[gaunt phoenix]

there's a way to swap by literal bag slot

like this #outlaw message

/equipslot 17 <bag number> <bag slot number>

[sullen walrus]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[rigid basin]

We should just have that as a chat command at this point xd

[worldly shale]

thanks

[proven ocean]

snd bug + wep swap bug = 5m dps overall

abuse before its too late

pistol goes boom boom

banned by heavenly decree

great shame for family

would do it again

pistol goes boom boom boom 手槍砰砰砰 infinite power無限的力量great shame for family對家人來說是極大的恥辱banned by heavenly decree被天命所禁止would do it again會再做一次

[jolly geyser]

🫃

[worldly shale]

[rigid basin]

[indigo token]

so true

misaligning my cds on sin make me wanna die

[rigid basin]

I don't mind Assa, but for some reason sub always feels clunky as hell. Maybe I just haven't played it enough

[daring sage]

Hope it's ok to share this here. It's so good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp4UG4zGorM

[keen belfry]

pvpoop

[vapid sundial]

awang

more like a wiener

hahah

[west dirge]

!log

[jolly geyser]

reckful

awang more like

awank

[sudden fulcrum]

owned

[keen belfry]

dude...

[keen belfry]

man....

[rigid basin]

https://tenor.com/view/30rock-alec-baldwin-there-there-cheer-up-comfort-gif-4215371

[late swallow]

Awangsisters how will we ever recover

@keen belfry has dustx prime subbed to your twitch yet?

[keen belfry]

i streamed mugzee prog last night

got no subs

maybe he forgor?

[late swallow]

I think he’s waiting for the direct deposit to hit

[keen belfry]

listen to my scream here https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/ku6pp3MZh1LQzrOIr?invite=cr-MSxPVjIsNDU1MDEwMw

[sudden fulcrum]

i was expecting more

[keen belfry]

i get that a lot.

[glass mortar]

@keen belfry 👋

didnt answer u this morning because I h8 u (arrived at work)

[keen belfry]

let me guess

NYC again?

[craggy barn]

awang ur playing mage

ofc no subs

[keen belfry]

only in raid i swear

[jolly geyser]

wow is sleeper to watch tbf

[dawn talon]

🫡

i been playing too much deadlock

[glass mortar]

nah up in CT this time

i get around

[radiant vessel]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[regal star]

How many targets do I need to change offhand to Nightfall Curseblade's Cudgel?

[glass mortar]

3-4 mobs and it needs to be dungeon trash

u dont use it on raid bosses or dungeon bosses

[regal star]

👍🏿

[covert kestrel]

u cheating on me??

sometimes when im shitposting in #outlaw on the subway, i look around and think... one of these thousands of people on the subway could be weran

https://tenor.com/view/yukari-akiyama-gup-pondering-fluff-gif-17352396888964749050

[strong halo]

bro is half this spec just using killing spree at the right time so u dont die?

its so cancer in some m+ lmao

[jolly geyser]

yes

also fuck KS

[glass mortar]

yea twas me infact

but you'll never know

im in stealth

[glass mortar]

and yes my work has me be a bit of a sloot

[proven ocean]

i join a pug 18

[glass mortar]

i go everywhere

[proven ocean]

and my guy lost his mind

[jolly geyser]

hi chat

[strong halo]

he lost his mind after being in group with the 2nd best rogue in world

#1 = me #3 = zac

[mighty pivot]

@true cedar have you tried this outlaw build with flag yet? Gigamastery frfr

[storm drum]

i only sub to ppl that are top 5 dps cant even see him on the meters lmao

[red zinc]

grown ass men

[storm drum]

Certain ppl just let others live in their heads like wonderbread

[vivid vessel]

whats this

this isnt my ui

oh is it monksea stream

why are you watching monksea and not me

traitor rogue

[sullen walrus]

what's bug with outlaw spells?

[glass mortar]

u gotta be more specific then that

[sullen walrus]

😦

[glass mortar]

i mean we have some bugs with certain spells but idk what spell ur talking about

there is no bug effecting all our spells

are you looking for info on something specific

[sullen walrus]

cancelaura slice and dice

[glass mortar]

this tech is so irrelevant i dont think most people should worry about learning how to do it

if you consume a supercharged stack and then cast slice and dice, the slice and dice will be buffed like its consuming supercharged but it wont actually consume it

so if ur at 1 cp it will act like a 4 cp SnD and likely refund 1cp

if u add cancelaura into this (since if you dont, your SnD duration will be too high for you to recast it) you can press SnD a few times in a row to churn some cdr

this lasts until you press any other finisher to consume that supercharge stack or you dont get a refund

[shy pecan]

Does anyone know why the tricks buff is not being shown in the group frame when using trickster?

the 30 sec tricks buff before the 1 hour triggers

[true cedar]

The secret is starting to finally show B)

[mighty pivot]

bad song made me switch

[covert kestrel]

so you have to consume first or do you mean just if supercharger is activated

[strong halo]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/stormrage/Ellesus any opinions on what i should craft? i can craft a 681 rn

[shy pecan]

you have to supercharge, use a dmg finisher, be left with supercharge buff and then you can spam snd

[glass mortar]

you need to have consumed it first

its identical to the ER bug except easier in a way since ER bug requires you be on an ER cp as well (if i remember correctly, maybe it didnt)

and weaker since eventually you will hit the 20% chance and end up at 0 cp

actually i dont think ER bug even required ending up on an ER cp when u cast SnD, its been awhile

[strong halo]

thoughts? prayers?

[sudden fulcrum]

you can sim that

[strong halo]

craft? isnt it more strategic than pure sims?

[mighty pivot]

no just craft whichever weak slot gets the most benefit from a crafted piece

[sudden fulcrum]

what were you expecting?

[hybrid crown]

belt or chest

both have poopy mastery

begone mastery

maybe chest since the belt has a socket, and chest has big stat

[glass mortar]

i refuse to answer on grounds of the warcrime that is that mog

paladin is right there man, if u wanna play it its ok

theres a reason so many do

[sudden fulcrum]

well crafting the belt is probably not a good idea because of the delve belt coming out soon

other than that the sim should answer every other question

[mighty pivot]

yeah I didn't want to comment on that mog. the less people know about it the better

[craggy quiver]

This tier feels like it's lasting forever

[hybrid crown]

oh right delve belt

yeah chest for sure then

[daring oxide]

hurry up 11.2 ptr pls

[mighty pivot]

it's coming next week with KS fully fixed

[keen belfry]

😦

[balmy spade]

what is zeross doing on stream

that damage is criminal

[dreamy quarry]

bro is cracked

[balmy spade]

that does not look like normal damage xd

[late swallow]

you have almost 400 more score than him btw

[keen belfry]

ive checked his logs too

[hexed path]

what is ER?

[keen belfry]

hes one of them ones

[late swallow]

[violet hollow]

Hello Outlaw rogues, just wanted to hop by and say that i've been trying for 1 hour to get a feel of the spec and i'm.........lost is an understatement

[shy pecan]

keep hitting dummies

[late swallow]

this disc has a lot of great resources to get you started. I'd recommend reviewing: https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/856897810536071208

[shy pecan]

for 72 hours

[violet hollow]

i want to hit dummies but i don't know what to his. I've looked at the outlaw faq and it's not easy to read

is the wowhead guide any good?

[shy pecan]

starting with the basic in the faq here is better than the wowhead guide imo

[simple relic]

hey a lil question, i see zac sometimes does some kind of slice and dice cancel aura in downtime between packs is it just /cancel snd /use snd or is it smthing else?

[violet hollow]

asking about the wowhead guide because i'm coming from havoc and the guide write is or was the r1 havoc DH

[shy pecan]

Ye /cancelaura snd /cast snd

he does it with the supercharger bug to dump cd on ar and stuff

[violet hollow]

so that was a good starting point

[late swallow]

yeah the wowhead guide is really good too

[simple relic]

supercharger bug?

[balmy spade]

can someone tell me how the ER bug works exactly ?

[shy pecan]

you roll the bones to get supercharge

you consume one charge

and then your snd behaves like using supercharge but does not consume the buff

but when you use the 2nd stack

it does not work

so your last finisher has to consume a supercharge stack but you still have to have the buff

so on every snd cast you have 80% chance to generate 1 cp again which will then behave as using 4cp

so if you are lucky you can spam a bit and dump cd

[simple relic]

i see ty

how do you track supercharger cps btw

is there some hidden buff

[late swallow]

2 of your cps turn blue bro

[simple relic]

cuz i dont see it on my buff thingie

ye they dont on my wa pack

naowhs uio

[late swallow]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[late swallow]

do yourself a favor and just get a CP tracker from one of those packs

tracking SC is like super important for outlaw and sub

[balmy spade]

tyty, just to be clear, echoing reprimand is required

[shy pecan]

supercharger

not er

[balmy spade]

i got trolled on stream then

makes sense

[wintry solar]

The name was grandfathered in

[covert kestrel]

"Dear Mr streamer, remember that big bad rogue who was mean to you that one time? Well I showed him, I called him bad at the game. Your heckin welcome!! I always defend my homies. Anyways heres $5 please say my name please please"

[late swallow]

holy

[gaunt phoenix]

This is incredibly stupid to keep reading about

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/chuck-mc-gill-chuck-better-call-saul-chuck-hits-his-head-gif-26372212

solo rn

[remote pecan]

killing spree?

[covert kestrel]

I'm sorry solo it was too easy

[echo tide]

god damn streamers

[covert kestrel]

I'll stop poking the poop

[storm drum]

i really dont understand there fixations

[covert kestrel]

Their*

[storm drum]

fronteir go play the game

[late swallow]

ross is our floor pov goat

[storm drum]

and stop at me

[remote pecan]

it's probably because zac is abusing bugs on stream again so every1 thinks they muist do it, 99% of ppl will probably lose dps trying to do it.

[covert kestrel]

I'm playing split fiction rn! Pretty fun

[storm drum]

what is it that you need from me?

you need attention?

[late swallow]

i'm trying to adjust my rear derailleur because that shit is being WACK

[proven ocean]

fucking killingspree

[late swallow]

malding

[proven ocean]

gladiator pvp'ed me

no cappi

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean

can you explain to me

why you are streaming yourself

using a damage multiplier weak aura

whats the point

[proven ocean]

what WA

[frank finch]

i was literally about to type this

[proven ocean]

[vivid vessel]

its mega cringe myu giuy

idk why you are doign this

[inner cosmos]

omega cringe

[late swallow]

the king is in your chat

[vivid vessel]

I will have people dming me for 5 months

[late swallow]

he subbed to you

[vivid vessel]

about outlaw being bugged

[late swallow]

what a chad

[vivid vessel]

doing infinite damage

just cause you are doing this

for no reason

[proven ocean]

💀

[late swallow]

zeross' music better than zac's atm ngl

[vivid vessel]

no but explain to me zeross

[covert kestrel]

I need your mom's credit card info

[random stirrup]

he is trying to get outlaw nerfed to keep you down zac

[vivid vessel]

ye ended up in a random playlist

bad

[storm drum]

1-Month SubscriberPrime Gamingryukagettv: Hypeee trainnnnn chhooo chhhoooo hilarious

[late swallow]

@proven ocean music is really good

[proven ocean]

ty ty ikr ikr

[late swallow]

reminds me of early 2000s wow vods

[storm drum]

the boy is a fan

[covert kestrel]

RYUKAGE

[tidal monolith]

i need that weak aura to feel good on my sub rogue dm me pls

[shut matrix]

got people begging him for the bug and the WA

[proven ocean]

people want the WA

its op

[shut matrix]

imposter syndrome is rampant in the EU

[proven ocean]

i didnt know it worked

till i did 9m in cinderbrew

i was like

wtf why is my overall 9m

i thought it was perma 20 stacks kezan

[vivid vessel]

ok

but

why

are you doing this

do it on assa

instead of my spec

this is cringe af

[shut matrix]

hes done it on both

[proven ocean]

i wont pug outlaw keys

sin keys*

i did it on both anyway

[shut matrix]

so its cringe^2

[vivid vessel]

remove the weak aura ?

[tidal monolith]

do it on sub rogue now

xd

[vivid vessel]

idk

why you are doing this

its so weird man

[proven ocean]

?

[inner cosmos]

duality of man

[proven ocean]

just dont watch wdym u wont get nerfed

[vivid vessel]

why are you doing it

[late swallow]

this you dust?

[proven ocean]

why are u abusing er bug?

if its useless

explain

?

same thing

[vivid vessel]

?

idk

people respect you because you do damage

and now you do this

[shut matrix]

just pin the logs to his screenshots

[vivid vessel]

its weird af man

[storm drum]

possibly i may still be salty about him saying he does more dam then me when he doesnt

[fluid iron]

bug?

[inner cosmos]

8mil dps guys

[vivid vessel]

no, he is just streaming himself

doing infinite damage

cause of a weak aura

its legit mega cringe

[fluid iron]

oh i know that

[balmy spade]

LOL WHAT

[fluid iron]

dmg multiplier wa

[frank finch]

do other ppl in the party see that?

[fluid iron]

doubt

[late swallow]

i respect this level of trolling

funny af

[fluid iron]

but i wasent really talking about zeross, was more so poking fun at myself for always showing up when bug talks happen

like SnD bug being a thing again

[mighty pivot]

stream chat drama

[vivid vessel]

you can dm devs i dont even care

its legit even more useless than it was in sl

at least people will stop dming me

[fluid iron]

i aint got that typa pull

[vivid vessel]

about it

my chat is

filled

with people

asking me

about this

when its the most useless shit ever

the keys i did the most damage in i dont even have time to trigger the bug

[fluid iron]

realz leaves me on read (i havent spoken to him in like a year)

[vivid vessel]

realz blocked me

[mighty pivot]

well now they are fighting each other so at least it's not about the bug

[wintry solar]

Realz invited me to a house party

[fluid iron]

think last a typed to him was in the start of season 1 with the sub/outlaw coup bug week one of RWF

[remote pecan]

so it was you that spoiled our fun

[hexed path]

defo a WA he's winding ppl up 😄

[fluid iron]

well the bug happened to outlaw twice iirc

i only told them how it worked with the first one

or rather how to replicate it

[wintry solar]

Why

[storm drum]

nothing compares to S1 bug though so why so much drama

[ripe ibex]

people don’t want to accept they are doing zero damage so zac must be abusing a bug to be doing that much damage

[storm drum]

omg

[vivid vessel]

bro

i hate weak auras

[storm drum]

679 ilvl ish on my outlaw and 5mil overall is the norm just depends

[vivid vessel]

or rather

i hate how the game is rn

in m+

i legit cannot figure out

how to see

casts

in a good way

i always have 20 nameplates

[fluid iron]

im a firm believer in information should be accessible to all instead of just having a few people in the know doing 20% more dmg than everybody else cuz haha funny bug.

[vivid vessel]

its annoying

[balmy spade]

if we wouldt be jumping around with killingspree like monkeys

[storm drum]

yeah most annoying part haha im thankful tab swaps to a caster in most cases but yes big pulls its a bit sweaty

[fluid iron]

so i told people about it including rwf players

[balmy spade]

it would make it alot more relaxing

[vivid vessel]

20% ?

[balmy spade]

trackign what stuff is casting xd

[vivid vessel]

[fluid iron]

it was around 20-25% for sub

back then

[simple relic]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[fluid iron]

no idea for outlaw

[random stirrup]

was it really that low for sub

[vivid vessel]

wait what bug

[fluid iron]

Coup

[vivid vessel]

uh

it worked for sub ?

[fluid iron]

first time yeh

[vivid vessel]

huge

[proven ocean]

sub infinite dps inc

10m overall

[ripe ibex]

wdym do you like want a group with all current casts going off? or keep it on the plater?

[wintry solar]

Sub wants to be outlaw so bad it's soooo cuteee

[storm drum]

if anything is ragebating its fuckin ross with his fake wa dmg lmao

[hexed path]

my guy i like the hussle

[vivid vessel]

i have all of that

i just

dont like

idk

its too much information

[ripe ibex]

na i feel you

i don’t really fw it either

[vivid vessel]

i juist dont enjoy it

[storm drum]

i mean thats a legit complaint

[vivid vessel]

and i cant figure out a way to have it not cancer

[storm drum]

but imagine no platers and weak auras and tracking all this shit

[vivid vessel]

my biggest issue is cinderbrew rn

[violet hollow]

is there a reason why my stealth bar sometimes doesn;t change to my out of stealth bar? i mean the spells.

[vivid vessel]

like all the packs to the left

right

[ripe ibex]

yeah

[vivid vessel]

idk whats happening

[random stirrup]

is there even a way to have it all nice

nameplates are kinda just bad

[vivid vessel]

im always perma lost

[storm drum]

fuckin kicking in cindy b and targeting barrels holy fawk

[vivid vessel]

i dont target them

[random stirrup]

play mouseover kick and just yolo

good luck team

[vivid vessel]

i think its better to cleave them

i stand on top of them

so i always cleave them

even in big packs

[storm drum]

yeah i do feel like i miss a couple gcds while trying ot target them

[vivid vessel]

bf cleaves closest first

ye

thats why

i dont do that

losing gcds is just worse damage

than cleaving them

[storm drum]

i dig it yeah fuck it im not targeting them anymore then lol

[vivid vessel]

and i can tell you

even in 21

we dont have an issue

killing them

while all the caster groups los them

we one shot them

[ripe ibex]

yeah i think im like always doing most to them

https://i.imgur.com/lTB3xcf.png

just standing on them

[storm drum]

zorthar ele lmao yall have good cleve with that comp for sure tho

[ripe ibex]

haha

[random stirrup]

zorthar ele

[ripe ibex]

bro he died on first pull like 8 times

to agro

[storm drum]

bro thats the zorthar special on shaman hes gonna die like 3-4 times but yall will time becasue of his dmg

[vivid vessel]

i almost did the most damage out of all specs in cinder

outalw is crazy in cinder i feel

[ripe ibex]

i swear that guy is just perma content farming

[inner cosmos]

it feels crazy on bosses

[ripe ibex]

yeah absolutely

[remote pecan]

outlaw is crazy everywhere

[random stirrup]

imagine saying this to pre bugfix zac

[remote pecan]

3% wipe on mug'zee but doing sin dmg

[ripe ibex]

outlaw is so good…

[storm drum]

thats kind of nutty considering capped vs uncapped and all the PI th other classes get

[vivid vessel]

monksea kinda blasting them

[ripe ibex]

damn wtf

is he targeting them?

[vivid vessel]

ye prolly

they spwan on top of him

tho

so he has an advantage a bit

[ripe ibex]

oh i didn’t know that

[vivid vessel]

but brew is kinda insane

i love playing with brew

insane damage

and he does cool setups he is quick on his feets

[ripe ibex]

bosses feel so fast with brew

[ripe ibex]

yeah bro that dfc first pull rop is so sick

he does it so clean

[storm drum]

does he rop the little shits back ontop of the overseers?

or rop them out of aoe circle?

[random stirrup]

we did some initial baby push stuffs today

[storm drum]

becasue that is hella annoying the knock from overseer

[random stirrup]

brew is kinda insane

this guy is just immortal

[glass mortar]

what on earth is this incredible cringe

[ripe ibex]

https://youtu.be/FnZ3T4v9GTo?t=37

[glass mortar]

why is zeross just spreading misinfo about the spec while using a WA to fake his dps

should be embarassed for streaming with this WA

and trying to pretend its something else

[random stirrup]

[covert kestrel]

Brews are either gods or chodes and no in between

[vivid vessel]

ye idk

[inner cosmos]

clickbait bro

need to farm the clicks

[storm drum]

they say no publicity is bad publicity lol

[glass mortar]

id be super embarrassed to do something like this, but especially on a spec i barely play and dont care about

[simple relic]

same

[sudden fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/money-crying-woody-harrelson-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-6945518

him being super embarrassed ^

[storm drum]

with that item level wth

[glass mortar]

im also annoyed at u @vivid vessel

[storm drum]

is brew still overly bloated with buttons?

[vivid vessel]

what did i do

[glass mortar]

since u started using this supercharge bug more openly on stream people literally ask about that shit 24/7 in here

that shit is more useless then its ever been

and annoying as fuck to explain

[vivid vessel]

ye i know

[glass mortar]

and i blame u

[vivid vessel]

i mean

what can i do bro

people are stupid

[covert kestrel]

[vivid vessel]

and im not gonna

not use it ?

why would i not use it

[glass mortar]

make a WA that blackboxes ur character whenever u cast SnD twice in a row

idk

bug solo to make a command for it

cba with this shit

its probably 0.5% dps if that for u now

[storm drum]

i mean i forget to even RtB before walking into dungeon half the time its not the biggest deal lol

[vivid vessel]

guys

this weird guy

sent me a friend request

do i block him

he looks like the biggest gooner

[ripe ibex]

who tf is that

[late swallow]

must have mis clicked

[covert kestrel]

That's what happened to mr

[glass mortar]

he also friend requested me 😊

must have been hacked

[late swallow]

weran accepted because he's cute af

[covert kestrel]

Somnius sharing the outlove today

[late swallow]

[glass mortar]

ur the top gooner in my heart som

[late swallow]

thanks man that really means a lot

[covert kestrel]

[glass mortar]

u somehow straddle the line of being bannably weird and just a chill guy at the same time

i can feel solos mouse hovering over the ban each time u drop a borderline nsfw reaction mid argument and then he pulls back

[late swallow]

i'm just a chill guy who had too much unsupervised access to the internet at a young age

[storm drum]

arent we all?

[glass mortar]

aint that the truth for our entire generation

our parents were not prepared

[random stirrup]

no idea he says it plays itself

[covert kestrel]

And a dabble of adhd

[glass mortar]

brm has a ton of rotational buttons

[vivid vessel]

I mean

[glass mortar]

its a fun rotation tho

[vivid vessel]

it has a lot of buttons

idk about bloated tho