outlaw

[vale warren]

Maybe they wanna use embellishment on crafted

[sour vault]

I had to get my trashmaster title the OG way

I'd rather it be an on-use so I can choose my title

[uneven swan]

they have embellishments on sword and neck

[wintry solar]

I get comments about my Shadowlands Enthusiast title a lot

[vale warren]

Yeah maybe they just hate the title then idk

[weary fog]

captain and bloodsail admiral are bis titles

[jolly geyser]

I use Smelly

[weary fog]

actually salty is bis

[vale warren]

I like scenaturdist cause it's a really stupid pun

It barely even counts as a joke

[wintry solar]

I used Captain before SL Enthusiast

[civic void]

People are not ready for this yet, it's just natural pushback

[wintry solar]

And Argent Dawn

[wintry solar]

I'm a SL lover full and through

Since day 1 I was glazing

[jolly geyser]

[wintry solar]

Ain't gonna say it was perfect

[vale warren]

SL was good after 9.1.5 imo

[wintry solar]

It obv had it's flaws

[vale warren]

After everyone stopped playing

[civic void]

It's overly hated but I wouldn't say I'm a SL glazer

[wintry solar]

It was just peak outlaw to me, that's why I'm a huge fan.

When I dipped my toe into venth gsw I knew it was for me

Celerity was fine too I guess. The extra adr was cool

[vale warren]

Celerity would be kinda cracked with uhuh

[civic void]

I mean that would be a 8% dps increase that's it

[wintry solar]

I'd like to see what it would be like if it were a choice node with uhuh

It being so close to HO and takem would be weird though. Nvm

You could probably cook up a hypothetical but I don't feel like using my brain atm

[fluid meadow]

disconnects new affix on keys? some week ago peeps just gets freeze ( i have that many times too and still a problem) or with worse pc they get dc and can't login?

[mighty pivot]

could be that they need the haste, or as simple as that the crafted one sims better for them the difference between them is extremely minor

[fluid vortex]

does anyone here have the sprocket killstreak wipe gif

[daring oxide]

because he wants access to focusing lens and you need 2 crafted items, cloaks have very low dps value in general due to low amount of stats

[ancient laurel]

How much damage do you lose if you don't run Killing Spree for ST raid build?

[fallen knot]

if you dont want to run ks in st, you can play fatebound kir, but it needs to be full single target of you grief yourself

[ancient laurel]

I became curious after looking at the sproket killstreak gif

[fallen knot]

yee at sprocket you want to play fatebound kir

[vivid vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-hamster-blowjob-suck-dick-gif-15709600

[fallen knot]

or you end up killing your raid after the first k

ks

[ancient laurel]

or you only use it while the polarity swap is happening

[fallen knot]

but you lose way too much dps

[ancient laurel]

yea i know, it was half meme. I kind of want to learn to play outlaw too but i haven't had much luck ninjaing loot to start trying it

[uneven swan]

he said you're overthinking it @daring oxide

xD

[vivid vessel]

maybe your friend is just stupid

friend pov

[wintry solar]

That's so me-core

[leaden folio]

on pure st

fatebound is better anyway, no ?

last time i sim, fatebound was ahead

[vivid vessel]

Yes

Not a single boss is pure st but sproket tho

[lone spear]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qHdyYfFpR8NW1VbT?fight=last&type=damage-done

first pull* they give me bomb doing duty

and i get rank 1

[leaden folio]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ixEGMQZ1hMNVKRsQmgkD2u

maybe I failed my talent, but sprocket (fatebound) is 1,8% ahead my killingspree st build

[honest sparrow]

Yes but fatebound gets worse the moment there is even a bit aoe. And this raid there is only 1 Boss which is pure singletarget so fatebound is just played there

[pastel oak]

Hi all - dabbling back again with Rogue after a long break. Can I check my understanding on the HO trickster guide. Is it right that following an opener and with vanish 2 charges it could be a while before I spend on Killing Spree or dispatch? It means in M+ packs that die quick i may not even get to them with all the crackshot windows?

[leaden folio]

ye I agree ; except that now in hc mode, we kill the boss before add spawn (or get instantly kill)

[pastel oak]

Im also using this BTE WA which gives me BTE suggestions very frequently - does that sound right? https://wago.io/ervoiEw8K

[gaunt phoenix]

Ks has higher priority than vanish

Unless you absolutely must vanish to prevent adrenaline rush from expiring

[leaden folio]

you should send your killingspree before using vanish ; also if you can use the coup (the better dispatch) try to use it before vanish too
also like solo said, if you are building but adrealine gonna expire in 1-2sec, just vanish

[pastel oak]

fab thanks!

[gaunt phoenix]

I dont know what your weakaura is doing, but bte is the highest priority finisher in stealth, lower priority than ks and coup outside of stealth

[honest sparrow]

What boss you kill before add spawn?

[leaden folio]

on heroic ?

i cant even finish my killing spree that the add are killed on rik

the cauldron boss didnt even go mid, we kill it before etc..

and i do these boss on pick up

[honest sparrow]

Killingspree does more then do dmg it doesnt matter if you get it while rik barrels. The buff from trickster to bf and the downscaling of fatebound is the issue.
Also the fastest logged kill on couldron on hc (from a guild) is 1.30 and the clash is happening at 1:10.
You guys would need to be faster then the fastest logged guild kill by nearly 20 sec 😄

[leaden folio]

ye maybe

I think i join a grp full gear "farm reputation" 2/2/26

so maybe i got a particular grp

[honest sparrow]

Could it be that it was a normal run? Because there its kind of normal to kill before intermission

[leaden folio]

😒 i dont remember correctly

[leaden folio]

ye it was normal, sorry

[glass mortar]

Ur simming kir trickster fwiw

That is not the best st build and should be behind fatebound

Ho trickster is stronger

At least if what I could make out on mobile raidbots was accurate

[leaden folio]

oh yea, https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tCHZfY4iKS8gTkWg58xZAs ho is 1% ahead

[magic shuttle]

what should be the raid renown for this week?

[inland acorn]

16

[magic shuttle]

oh it's the damage buff week

[hybrid crown]

Also more importantly it is 4 weeks until Trex week

[fallen knot]

i fucking love outlaw

[uneven swan]

i feel like i out dps most classes (even meta classes) as outlul.

just did a +11 with a 662 Arcane mage and 664 Balance druid, and i did 1.2m dps more overall than both

[fallen knot]

outlaw on weekly keys blasts

really hard

[uneven swan]

i myself are 665

[soft bobcat]

What’s your overall?

[uneven swan]

3.4m

[soft bobcat]

It’s 👍

Can do 12s and 13s with that

[uneven swan]

aye i know, but ppl wants meta classes

and i got 0 frends

[soft bobcat]

Yea my tank buddy it’s 3400 and he switch to dps and he’s 3 k on his hunter and get 0 invites that’s dps life

[uneven swan]

on my balance druid, it's insta queue's

same ilvl but lower dps overall

[soft bobcat]

Yea sin pops off in keys but the boss damage is meh

[hybrid crown]

People tend to invite on ilvl at least in 12s and 13s

If you are geared to the teeth you will get invites

[uneven swan]

Yeah, i'm currently working on min maxxing my gear. got full hero/some myth pieces atm

and crafted gear

[hybrid crown]

I feel like my vault 10s are easier to get in and do now that I'm in the 680s

[uneven swan]

neck/weps/wrists

well, can say it like that, i got all items bis except cloak

[soft bobcat]

10s are a breeze and 12s are easier than 11s

[glass mortar]

12s are easier then 10s honestly

at least in 12s usually the two other dps arent doing 2m or less overall

10s are traps far more often for me

[wintry solar]

10s and 11s have more questionable people in my experience

[hybrid crown]

Idk I feel like I can carry 10s so hard that it almost doesn't matter what the other 2 are pulling lol

[open meadow]

Im just going through the outlaw rotation and not seeing any mention of slice and dice. Is that not worth pressing for outlaw atm?

[hybrid crown]

It auto applies on finishers

[soft bobcat]

It’s automatic with between the eyes

[hybrid crown]

No need to press it

[open meadow]

Oh cool

tyvm!

[soft bobcat]

Yea it’s for less button bloat

[open meadow]

Is that from a specific talent?

[soft bobcat]

No all rogues like that now I think

Sin gets it from envenom

[open meadow]

Well it shows how long its been since I've played rogue 😄

[soft bobcat]

Yea there are some changes in the play style of outlaw it’s about your stealth windows and using crack shot during them

[open meadow]

Interesting! thanks again

[wintry solar]

Boooooo

[tight kernel]

So I learned with gally, there are no ks timings just full send and pray

[hybrid crown]

It's actually a talent that has been around for ages but they gave it to all specs baseline

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=51667/cut-to-the-chase

[glass mortar]

sin talent for a long long time iirc

then they gave it to all of us yea

[late swallow]

the biggest W change with CTT was not even needing to press SND initially

[latent oak]

i was sort of fond of having 2hour long snds with grand melee

if it gets above 4 i hear u have to go to the hospital

[late swallow]

if it gets above 4, blizz calls ICE and they deport you to guatemala

[latent oak]

guatemala is quite nice this time of year i heard

[sullen walrus]

i have 14% critical its too low for kir build?

[gaunt phoenix]

its fine

2800 crit rating?

maybe a bit low

[sullen walrus]

3400

i want to create a ring 681, but then i will be have 29 vers, 19 haste, 18 crit

now it's 31 vers, 19 haste , 14.87 crit

[gaunt phoenix]

use raidbots to see the dps difference if any

[sullen walrus]

boys, i cant see my buffs. reloaded addons, interface settings and i cant fix it. can someone help me?

[vivid vessel]

time to install a weak aura instead of using this trash

[latent oak]

there will be a little arrow that u need to click

in top right corner

[sullen walrus]

i haven't

[sullen walrus]

with weakaura it's not comfortable for me fr

[vivid vessel]

you can do the same exact thing with weak auras so idk what you mean

[reef forge]

can anyone remember what the perfect percent for haste was?

[gaunt phoenix]

19.05

[vivid vessel]

19.3429

[vivid vessel]

sounds fake

[reef forge]

19.2 is good enough

[gaunt phoenix]

you definitely dont need to match 19.05 exactly

[reef forge]

i just thought it was closer to 20

and i was quite a bit lower

[late swallow]

smellbussy is back

[reef forge]

i finally got rid of pvp ring last night

[late swallow]

is your bike playlist for cycling?

or like a motorbike?

[reef forge]

was for cycling yeah

[late swallow]

extremely based

what kind of bike do you have king

i just put together a tarmac sl8

new rims come tomorrow

[reef forge]

nothing special, was just using it for weight loss before covid

after 2 covid lock downs i broke

[late swallow]

[latent oak]

self improvement is based

[late swallow]

self improvement is excrutiatingly based

but not the schizo youtuber self improvement

[latent oak]

ya

[late swallow]

where you wake up at 4, read the torah, meditate, dip your balls in sparkling water, and then do pullups

[reef forge]

you not joining andrew tates chad college?

[lime lake]

that truly is schizo

you read the torah after dipping your balls not before

[latent oak]

what about eating 4 incubating goose eggs

[late swallow]

[late swallow]

bro eats balut

go google that

people really eat that shit and go "hmmmm, I could go for another one"

[latent oak]

ya ik about it

its crazy

bet it goes nicely with a chilled white

[lime lake]

maybe a diet pepsi

[latent oak]

those sea drillas go hard

redbull over there is cooler too

[uneven swan]

The daily life of a non meta class

Ilvl 665, 2.6k rio

[glass mortar]

daily life of anyone under 675 ilvl at this point tbh

ur on the tail end of a season of insane gear aquisition that most people have been playing the whole season

its always rough catching up

[gaunt phoenix]

everyone is 680

[glass mortar]

yea i was hedging

[uneven swan]

true

[glass mortar]

if ur not playing on a rat (low ilvl low io) and u put up a 10 during normal gamer hours u will have 20+ dps in the queue that are 680 ilvl within a few minutes

not hard to understand why so few groups skip over the 665 ilvl

[uneven swan]

been grinding 7s all day today

just got into a floodgate +7

got 1 myth track piece

[glass mortar]

its just an unfortante part of the catchup process, they really should add much better late season crest aquisition for catchup gilded

[uneven swan]

rest is hero

Yeah

[glass mortar]

m+ is just so fast for gildeds but also gatekept by ilvl for people trying to catch up

me and my friends just do rounds of rat keys where everyone can compete to bring their most worthless characters with a couple mains to help gear them up. its fun, but its real rough if ur trying to catchup solo

[lime lake]

me speedrunning delves to catchup instead of bothering to try keys this late on an alt

[glass mortar]

so stupid they havent uncapped delve crests

[random stirrup]

yep this is the way

[uneven swan]

delves are so damn boring to me

[random stirrup]

my 640 boomie has done like 5 10s total

and has 4 myth track tier pieces of course

[glass mortar]

its far less efficient speedwise anyway and 11s are genuinly hard for many classes

[random stirrup]

with avoidance on one of them

[glass mortar]

why can i not suffer for 20-30 minutes on my 630 alts in +11 delves for crests

[vivid vessel]

outlaw is pretty much meta rn tbh

as meta as it will get

Between top 5 and 10 DPS

It's good

[covert kestrel]

im like 675 and 3k and have no issues getting invited to 12s for weekly

[glass mortar]

10s are harder to get invites to then 12s

im working on finishing up my reslient 15s rn and i get declined from 10s on the reg (or delisted)

if i decide i cba with affix and go for 12s for my weekly its generally only 1-2 queues before i get an inv

theres just more people fighting over the slots of 10s tho its not surprising

getting ignored while queuing for keys is like 70% being drowned out by competition and 30% actually looking at ur ilvl/io/class and deciding not to pick u imo, especially this season

balance is very good

[glass mortar]

im not crazy right zac, is there other specs like this

where u can just do damage competative with literal meta dps of the season

and still never be fotmd

nobody plays this spec

even df s3

maybe its rogue in general i feel like i remember the last time sub was blasting in m+ it was still underplayed overall in the seaosn

[shell fossil]

idk capping aoe is kinda mid

and the buffs to dk/mage/boomie/warrior are great now that gear has landed

sugs lol

[glass mortar]

ok but outlaw does not suck rn

can literally beat meta specs or compete with them in every key level

[shell fossil]

it definitely slaps llamas

[glass mortar]

probably demolishes outside the top end

[latent oak]

i feel like lfg has been pretty positive to outlaw aswell?

[glass mortar]

ig u need a specific comp to be doing like meta spec dps tho

has it? man it took me like 30 minutes to find a +10 to finish my vault last week of straight declines

and im in 1 item off from bis gear with like 3.3k io

[latent oak]

i havent done keys in over a week but i was pretty regularly being accepted to 16-17s

[glass mortar]

oh on the higher end i could see it

but queuing for keys in general gets easier the higher up u go? idk, like u can tell what kinda comps u could fit in when queuing and u have far less other people queuing against u

[shell fossil]

ye clapped 4/8 14s yesterday in pugs, job monster took all my homies this week and last

[glass mortar]

i get invites to 15s waaaaaaay faster then i get to 10s

[latent oak]

idk before our bugfix i was sitting in lfg for so long

[glass mortar]

i have not noticed a change in my queue times to 10s but i wasnt pushing key difficulty before the bugfix so i cant comment i guess

[covert kestrel]

There are the rare few who take the mentality of "rare spec == good player" like this one dude invited me, a feral, and a surv to a key cause he was like if youve stuck with it then you're prob good

[glass mortar]

definitly doesnt feel bad to pug into 15s and 16s rn

[vivid vessel]

its the same for every spec that isnt actual meta tho

but rn unless you are applying to people that are stupid

outlaw is meta

[past falcon]

feral and outlaw have synergy tho so that’s actually a move

[vivid vessel]

its not like before the bug fix

[glass mortar]

well ok but thats what im saying

[shell fossil]

even last season last two weeks of that season though people were failing chopper redhook's bomb mechanics on siege of boralis, its rarely outlaw issue ye

[glass mortar]

im saying ur not playing a spec thats "off meta dps". u are literally doing meta or higher dps in ur keys

u could say outlaw is meta in that way

[covert kestrel]

yeah true just this 12 pugger prob not thinking like that lolol

[glass mortar]

but still nobody plays it

[shell fossil]

ppl just want uncapped/1 hand gaming

[glass mortar]

i dont think theres like 3-4 other specs doing meta spec dps that nobody plays?

[latent oak]

meta is just the community perception of whats good, not whats actually good

[glass mortar]

well one usually follows the other

[latent oak]

like by definition

most of the time ya

[glass mortar]

quite often the meta is "whats good", this season is balanced better then most in recent history tho

so that could play a major part of it

[vivid vessel]

feral, enhance, elem, mm

[past falcon]

outlaw is perceived to be very strong in the phys comp world. if there’s a phys player in lfg u have good odds of being taken yeah

[vivid vessel]

wl

[strong halo]

no better feeling than being 664 ilvl with 3.8M overall in priory and beating a 675 arms warr and ele shammy

[shell fossil]

boomie pls

[glass mortar]

i feel like all the specs u just listed except feral have large playerbases tho?

maybe not on the high end of keys ig

yall up there in 19s and 20s are meta chasing slaves

[past falcon]

there’s an abundance of mm yeah

i don’t see many enhance or eles tbh

[shell fossil]

i don't see a lot of warriors in my region

probs a ymmv thing

[crimson thicket]

I play ele. Poorly

[fallen knot]

i main shaman for the season, it's really not fun in keys

i much prefer dk or rogue

[crimson thicket]

Pre key setup for shaman. Zzzz

[latent oak]

play totemic ez

that spec is fun

hot hands is like crackshot

[crimson thicket]

How do I pick totemic as ele

[latent oak]

streamer client required

[crimson thicket]

Fuk

[latent oak]

ngl didnt know ele had prekey set up

but makes sense

[shell fossil]

was doing 4m on gorechop in top 14 but the pres evoker and healer ate 5 hooks

[latent oak]

if enh prestacks tempest why wouldnt ele

[crimson thicket]

It's not as bad as enh

[shell fossil]

now i dont even want to do my resil 13 lol

[latent oak]

double healer keys

[crimson thicket]

Like it doesn't hurt ele as bad to freeball the key

Double healer 14

[shell fossil]

yeah i was thinking that

not my key doe

[crimson thicket]

U was thinking why do we have two healers??

Ain't no way u actually stay to run a key with two healers

[shell fossil]

i think i thought pres was also a dps spec

[zealous plinth]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[shell fossil]

yeah i know its the healer spec

[crimson thicket]

U sure it was pres

And not Aug

[shell fossil]

probably aug

[crimson thicket]

Yeah that explains ur 4 mil

Not that ur not a pumper

Trust u pump 💪

[latent oak]

wollmart catching strays

[shell fossil]

nah im sure the buffs were helping me remove the brakes from gorechop

but they also ate like 5 hoooks

[glass mortar]

its ok not having other dps effectively hit the adds to inflate ur meters isnt inflating because of trickster outlaw funnel

the source of trickster outlaws funnel is i made it the fuck up

[shell fossil]

[crimson thicket]

Outlaw funnel is real

[glass mortar]

i had someone tell me i was being cringe because i used kspree on them on pvp boss in a top 14 last week

[latent oak]

deft is actually +200% st damage per extra target

[glass mortar]

"using major cds during that is cringe"

[late swallow]

ur supposed to CC chain during the pvp boss

vanish, cheap, kidney, into a blind

[crimson thicket]

Bro last guy I cap totem'd and pushed ascendance on him after popping both defensives.

[late swallow]

let DR drop

[glass mortar]

for kir yes, not on 3 targets tho

[latent oak]

its tragic that u cant sap

[glass mortar]

ok well that is

[latent oak]

do u know the tech

after the boss dies

and u are down

[glass mortar]

almost on the level of rets popping bubble on me

[late swallow]

what's the tech king

[glass mortar]

funny stuffs

[latent oak]

u can still cc them for small amount of time

huge tech!!!!

and the cc lasts after the phase ends!!!!!!!

[fair sparrow]

@vivid vessel how are you sending KS on candle king

Does it have to be low CP

[crimson thicket]

Just send and pray

[fair sparrow]

Oh

[crimson thicket]

Gobbless

[fair sparrow]

[crimson thicket]

I'm jk I don't know

[latent oak]

u coach ur tank befor ethe key goes in

[crimson thicket]

Trueee

Look here mr illidan I have a shit spell I have got to hit

[covert kestrel]

Why is Aug bad for law again

[glass mortar]

u coach ur tank and then if he doesnt listen u press it anyway and if u get stunned and wipe u go make an angry post on the forums

[fair sparrow]

I tried sending it and praying got stunned on every KS

[glass mortar]

(50% kidding)

[crimson thicket]

So if u could kindly preposition

[late swallow]

if aug had a meaningful CDR mechanic, maybe it'd be better for law

[glass mortar]

several of the ways it buffs people arent as strong for us as others

[fair sparrow]

Went again and tried not pressing it and did infinitely less dps

[glass mortar]

honestly almost all the ways it buffs people

yes not pressing it is very bad

[fair sparrow]

Fuck ass spec gambles even with a finisher

[glass mortar]

send on 1 cp if ur tank wont move away

u can still get stunned, its much less likely

[fair sparrow]

Yeah ok

Figured it was a low cp angle

Just wanted to make sure Ty

[glass mortar]

sending on 1 or 2 cp is waaaay more dps then not sending at all still

a significant portion of its value is the unseen blades it procs

[covert kestrel]

yeah my buddy goes aug from time to time and i tell him its no bueno for me but i never have a good reason why not cause i know nothing about what aug actually does so i dont have an answer for him lel

[fair sparrow]

That ability needs deletion

[glass mortar]

mhm

[fair sparrow]

This shit is worse than DFA

[glass mortar]

i mean their damage profile has continued to move more into direct damage and out of buff spells

its probably not the biggest sin anymore, its still far from strong tho

and also dev is just stronger so why bother

[uneven swan]

3.3m overall in a +7. ppl are slacking on interrupts tho

[glass mortar]

the primary stat buff they give is probably their strongest buff on us, but we tend to have more of our damage coming from non agi scaling sources then ur average dps so thats still usually behind

obviously we get almost no benifit from breaths aligned with cds

[latent oak]

zac told me in a key that interrupting is a dps loss

[glass mortar]

the crit buff is pretty weak since we nativly have high crit

[covert kestrel]

Yeah and he's a really good dev but he only does dev on the dungeons with giga pulls

[glass mortar]

the vers buff is hilariously enough worse for us then most specs since we stack giga vers

that last part tricks alot of people

[latent oak]

vers in a increased multiplier not a more multiplier

[uneven swan]

raider.io says these are peak stats %%

[glass mortar]

then raider io is lying

what the hell is even that

[fossil lintel]

Yeah it's missing 11% haste

[uneven swan]

14.9k vers, 1.7k mastery, 10.4k haste, 8.1k crit

[glass mortar]

thats not a full stat budget...

idk what raider io draws that from

but regardless

[uneven swan]

i ment raidbots*

[fossil lintel]

Also 10k haste isn't 27%

[uneven swan]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/turalyon/Sapshiro

@fossil lintel

[glass mortar]

im not sure what u mean by raidbots tells you. raidbots just tells you your best options of ur available gear right

[latent oak]

leave stealth

thats ur buffed haste level right

which would be fine

[uneven swan]

nope, non buffed

[glass mortar]

10k haste is 15.79%

u are getting ur stealth haste buff in that

but it doesnt rlly matter

the sim isnt telling u outlaws optimal stats its telling u the best stats of the gear options u have

i just got confused because u said raider.io

[fossil lintel]

Yeah

[uneven swan]

ya, my b

[night pond]

Just coming back to outlaw after a few years, are all the reroll weakauras trash at this point or is there one that works with current priorities?

[fossil lintel]

That haste is with take em by surprise

[glass mortar]

like in my near bis gear i have 36% vers

[uneven swan]

but idk why i only got 10k haste tho. i belive i'm pretty much full BiS

[glass mortar]

and i want moar

well u have circes circlet and about 10% too little vers so i dont think ur that close to bis, but it could also be ilvl

[fossil lintel]

I just want a myth trash master cloak is that too much to ask?

[gaunt phoenix]

10k is fine as HO

[fair sparrow]

Does kir want much higher haste

[glass mortar]

and depending on ur build ur haste requirement varies, especially if ur simming non ghostly strike HO

[fossil lintel]

Yeah, you want more if you're into kir

[uneven swan]

check my raider.io link @glass mortar chest is ilvl 668 now tho

[glass mortar]

gs HO and kir want similar amounts of haste

[jovial sedge]

664 ilvl is far away from full bis 🙂

[sullen walrus]

first boss in theater we will use capo or event weapon?

[gaunt phoenix]

capo

[uneven swan]

i mean in terms of items, not upgrades

[fair sparrow]

Event won’t work on bosses I think

So any boss it’s not worth it

[latent oak]

someone was in here the other day saying it worked specifically on that boss

[glass mortar]

yea i mean priory trinket is w/e, need a replacement ring for circlet, but the items are fine just low ilvl

[latent oak]

but i didnt look into it further

[fair sparrow]

Oh really?

[latent oak]

he might have been lying

[fair sparrow]

I guess that’s something to test

[latent oak]

im not saying he was right

[gaunt phoenix]

it works on ipa in cinderbrew, dont know about others

[fair sparrow]

Is that the bee boss

[glass mortar]

fairly easy to test

[uneven swan]

could maybe go for a crafted ring tho?

[glass mortar]

if i remember i'll see in my next ToP

[covert kestrel]

Beer boss

[glass mortar]

yea a crafted ring could replace it

u might need a bit more ilvl overall first tho

[fair sparrow]

Ooh

The elemental

[gaunt phoenix]

but at sustain 3 target im not sure event weapon and capo are significantly different

[latent oak]

4t for a portion of the fight

[glass mortar]

i think 3 target was the swapping point and by swapping point i mean it was barely outside margin of error when someone was simming it a few weeks ago

so probably not super worth worrying about

(unless it doesnt work period of course)

[fossil lintel]

Vanish doesn't reset the event weapon on bosses, we always swap

[gaunt phoenix]

you can also meld into stealth on ipa

[shell fossil]

meter from the boss by the way

[cedar hatch]

yo gamers got myth spare keys + Wax Whistle. Anything I could get with dinars? I both mythic raid and m+

[random stirrup]

capo mythic

[gaunt phoenix]

not really, wait for mythic capo

[covert kestrel]

Transmogs!!!

[cedar hatch]

yeah thought so

ty ty

[civic zephyr]

i might be dumb, whats capo :o

[gaunt phoenix]

mugzee fist weapon

[civic zephyr]

ahh the melee

right i see

[fair sparrow]

I’m running hoc and zee

For some reason they sim high

Feel like it’s bait

[gaunt phoenix]

zee is good in raid but breaks the event weapon in keys

[fair sparrow]

Oh really??

[gaunt phoenix]

something about the gooners staying in combat

[covert kestrel]

need more purple explosions

[civic zephyr]

what corruptions do we run in M+ and raid btw, i read something about the collapsing void simming higher than it should

[fair sparrow]

Dude that explains a lot

My weapon was doing like 0.6% overall

[covert kestrel]

Somnius is always in combat

[fair sparrow]

I was wondering how tf it was so low

I have whistle

[gaunt phoenix]

there is a pinned message about it, it is gushing wound or twilight dev

[fair sparrow]

Guess I’ll just use that

[leaden folio]

zee + kezan then

3000 iq

[civic zephyr]

yeah i just found it, ty sorry im new to rogue discord and outlaw generally

[gaunt phoenix]

i forgive you

[fair sparrow]

I got zee, Kezan, whistle, hoc, pacemaker, signet, and a heroic magnet

They all sim within like 0.1-0.5%

[gaunt phoenix]

yea most trinkets are similar

[fair sparrow]

Guess I’ll kezan instead of zee though if that’s fucking my weapon

[gaunt phoenix]

i wouldnt use kezan in workshop/theatre

[civic zephyr]

[gaunt phoenix]

kezan in keys is a bit experimental in general

[fair sparrow]

True true

Whistle/kezan and hoc

Should cover most scenarios

Maybe a mythic magnet out of vault

[glass mortar]

i wouldnt pug almost anything outside organized top keys with kezan yea

i use magnet/whistle or whistle/vexie trinket

[red zinc]

magnet+pace/whistle is the least bullshit least bugged combo

[random stirrup]

magnet is goated

[glass mortar]

i tried vexie in some dungeons where it cant miss bosses

its overall was identical to my magnet usage

so i might just stick magnet for life

[red zinc]

ye

magnet does same damage without shit bugging

[gaunt phoenix]

its usually slightly ahead of magnet for me

[glass mortar]

like actual raw X damage not % or anything

u gotta cheese magnet harder

[fair sparrow]

Magnet is just 15+ send?

[glass mortar]

i can usually get at least 1 free use a pack in a dungeon

along with regular usage

[red zinc]

outside of certain bosses ye

can hold for damage amp

[fair sparrow]

Okok

[gaunt phoenix]

15+ doesnt matter

[glass mortar]

i think u can probably get another 0.3-0.5% out of magnet if u tryhard cheese it ngl

[gaunt phoenix]

it can be 2+

[glass mortar]

but i just find that fun

[fair sparrow]

Oh really? wtf lol

[red zinc]

oh thought he meant 15sec

ye you can use every key

[fair sparrow]

Huh

[glass mortar]

they are talking stacks

[fair sparrow]

I mean the stacks

[glass mortar]

timmy

[red zinc]

oh

[glass mortar]

the stack count doesnt matter its linear scaling

[red zinc]

dawg just send that shit on cd

idk about stack count

[random stirrup]

this guy is COOKED

[glass mortar]

all that matters is not letting it overcap

but also

[gaunt phoenix]

its the same dmg, 1 use at 30 stacks is the same as 6 uses at 5 stacks

[glass mortar]

if u use the trinketo n a low hp mob and it dies before all the projectiles have fired

[fair sparrow]

Ok but on a boss like big momma would I just stack it for amp

[glass mortar]

it doesnt consume any stacks

[fair sparrow]

Or is that shit not worth

[glass mortar]

and u can actually do this quite frequently on trash

[red zinc]

ye

[glass mortar]

yes absolutely

[gaunt phoenix]

you hold for amp

[red zinc]

big momma, voidstone monstrosity, and coin operated pummeler

are the only ones

afaik

[fair sparrow]

Kk

[glass mortar]

on most dungeons i find on packs u can get a good medium stack usage on pull, then a decent low to medium stack usage that doesnt reset any stacks on a execute target

[gaunt phoenix]

azerokk

[glass mortar]

its quite fun

[proven ocean]

@gaunt phoenix

is jastor good

[gaunt phoenix]

?!!?1

[proven ocean]

or like

very bad

or

[gaunt phoenix]

awful

[glass mortar]

for law worthless

[proven ocean]

as bad as weran at outlaw?

[red zinc]

dont speak about jastor

[proven ocean]

ok

[red zinc]

you're gonna wake up the mastery guy

[fair sparrow]

My jastor sims higher than wick

[red zinc]

doomed stats cuh

[random stirrup]

bro is way over haste cap cuh

[gaunt phoenix]

cause you dont need 4400 haste

[glass mortar]

[fair sparrow]

I guess I try for a crit heavy ring

[gaunt phoenix]

currently

[proven ocean]

guys i cooked new 40% haste build !!!

[glass mortar]

haste past the haste cap for kir (or way past it for HO) is the only thing that can manage to be worse then mastery

[proven ocean]

💀

[fair sparrow]

My haste not even that high I swear

[red zinc]

[fair sparrow]

I think it’s low 20%

[glass mortar]

anything in the 20s is high

[fair sparrow]

Ok my haste is high guys

[glass mortar]

and its not like it gets linearly worse

it falls off a cliff

[fair sparrow]

[random stirrup]

40-50dps per point to 15

[fair sparrow]

Ok so go for a crit vers ring

Do those exist

[glass mortar]

on myth track only OaB ring

[gaunt phoenix]

craft one

[random stirrup]

roulette wheel gamba baby

[glass mortar]

crafted

[fair sparrow]

I have a crafted ring

[glass mortar]

u can have 2

[gaunt phoenix]

another one

[glass mortar]

most outlaws have 2

[fair sparrow]

YOU CAN HAVE 2?

[glass mortar]

yes

[fair sparrow]

HOLY WHAT

[glass mortar]

[fair sparrow]

I PLAYED SUB WITH A FUCKING HERO RING

[glass mortar]

[random stirrup]

aint no way

[fair sparrow]

I’ve been completely brain afk off this game since march

Guess that solves my jastor

[shell fossil]

hopefully we get stix tomorrow and i can get a magnet

but yeah they should make resil mechanics a little stronger, level your key if you complete a higher key that kind of thing

[red zinc]

stronger?

remove resil

[shell fossil]

so i have a 13 resil but i've completed some 14s

and i can't ask the panda lady nicely to level it up to a 14 if you see what im implying here

[red zinc]

dude what

why would they ever allow you to do that

infinite attempts at keys you're still progressing

[shell fossil]

yeah it's like adding film grain who does that

it doesn't enhance the experiece at all

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel thoughts?

[glass mortar]

so just resilient keys as soon as u have a key of that difficulty timed?

[gaunt phoenix]

true

[glass mortar]

cause ur just describing resilient keys but u talk to an npc now

[proven ocean]

@gaunt phoenix

how many targets does this start becoming bad

loss dps i mean

vs 684

[gaunt phoenix]

its around 3-4 targets where its worse

[jolly geyser]

how about its great we have you both here talking

[glass mortar]

this person is wrong

theyve clearly never played with tompelvis

the true goat rogue

🫡

[bright crane]

Pour one out for the og ramfam

https://tenor.com/view/pour-drink-pouring-alcohol-respect-gif-5359107

[jolly geyser]

good lad he is

[vivid vessel]

Well not in high end keys idk

[glass mortar]

yea i said that

yall robots up there

[jolly geyser]

what player has highest m+ score rn actually?

[gaunt phoenix]

me

[jolly geyser]

real

[vivid vessel]

I'm better and just dodge the stuns like neo in the matrix

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-stronger-smarter-better-gif-27330950

[hot olive]

whats the addon that lets u sort out friend list tanks and heals...?

[fallen knot]

!tricks

[ornate heath]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[vivid vessel]

It took me about 10 dfcs to figure it out with my tank so

Gl

But in high keys you also bait candles and they spawn right next to the boss so

[jolly geyser]

luck also?

[gaunt phoenix]

i think you have to low cp unless tank moves

if you low cp then it is luck

[keen belfry]

veneraea

[gaunt phoenix]

who

[vivid vessel]

This is factually wrong I'm r1 and you are r2

[glass mortar]

i mean outlaw is the gambling spec, if u dont have good luck thats a skill issue

maybe dont pick the gambling spec?

frost dk sounds like it might be right for u

💅

[daring oxide]

Did you message yourself this on a second account, show the name recipients

[glass mortar]

ive heard their lows arent all that bad so they must not have high variance

[daring oxide]

Lmao

[gaunt phoenix]

LMAO

[cinder oxide]

I don't like this guy

[keen belfry]

yeah hes the scum of NA LFG

[cinder oxide]

He's like, insanely egotistical

[daring oxide]

Good lad @keen belfry

[keen belfry]

i spent my day fucking with him while working yesterday

[covert kestrel]

Who's he

[shell fossil]

whon'st that

[keen belfry]

he then messaged our mutuals saying im a bad person and they didnt care

the words of this man do not travel far

[cinder oxide]

I was beating him in fg and he was talking to his chat about the generous charity he was doing letting these lowly DPS in his keys

[vivid vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/live/DTk5Foei3-c?si=bYGl_SqSs3UuQbsB&t=12820 candle king here

[glass mortar]

mm hunter streamer innit

ive seen clips

[keen belfry]

yeah he lists his 18 resils, does 0 dps, claims if the group played around him he could carry

then saws everyone should be thankful he lists his keys

[jolly geyser]

I need trinket from candle king for mount

[cinder oxide]

exactly that

[glass mortar]

cant drop for rogues, unlucky

i also am on that step

[keen belfry]

so i spent my work day having fun

[glass mortar]

just too lazy to pug with my alts

[jolly geyser]

yea

[glass mortar]

hmm but i could pug DF with caster groups and then beg for trinket

i dont know if anyone actually uses it

[cinder oxide]

gods work tbh, I might list some 19s for hunters today too while I'm working

[jolly geyser]

follower dungeon with int class

can take ages

I got pala but...

[glass mortar]

play tank

solo dungeon

loot spec holy

profit?

[latent oak]

its cross account right

u dont need them all on the same dude?

[glass mortar]

ya

u can get it on alts

im just lazy

[jolly geyser]

my ret is 660, follower dung goes fast

[glass mortar]

that works to i just remember wall to wall getting a little hectic doing follower dungeons as dps

but then again, i was doing it as outlaw. and im pulling 30 guys while 8 target capped

that could be part of it

[jolly geyser]

ye not ideal

I got reckoning and wake

disgusting

[glass mortar]

ooooo monk can probably loot it right

MW loot spec

[jolly geyser]

ye

[glass mortar]

maybe time for some WW follower dungies

or brm actually

WW has awful target scaling

brm i can just pull the whole instance

[jolly geyser]

if im super bored I will farm it one day

on stonecore atm

[glass mortar]

its one of those things i just keep thinking i'll get it on a friend or pug in a DF and have it traded to me and then its never happened

im at like 700 carapce pieces of the other world mount too

slowly getting that one over the course of the expac

[jolly geyser]

I got most rare mounts on my pala

[fallen knot]

zac the auto tricks macro doesnt work on my hunter

[jolly geyser]

maybe its a sign

@glass mortar gl on the farm man

[glass mortar]

u 2 babe

🫡

[vivid vessel]

Don't care

[glass mortar]

gl

the macro works on my hunter r u sure u didnt edit it in anyway for ur rogue and then try to just copy it over to ur hunter?

did u remember to change the spell name to hunters version of tricks?

honestly i cant help much cause my macro has worked on both my toons since DF and i basically havent touched it since

[fallen knot]

come on

i followed the thing on wago

copied this #showtooltip [known:Interlope] Interlope; #showtooltip [noknown:Interlope] Misdirection
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[glass mortar]

Wtf is interlope

Oh not English maybe

[jolly geyser]

french?

[lime lake]

interlope is the name of his antelope pet

[late swallow]

🤢

[covert kestrel]

Hi, I'm Terlope

[fallen knot]

then zac trolling

[glass mortar]

I mean that's just showtooltips anyway

[fallen knot]

i know

[fallen knot]

it doesnt work

[glass mortar]

If its not working it's an issue of the macro and wa combined

[fallen knot]

says invalid target

[glass mortar]

Who was the target

[proven ocean]

why would i msg myself

from a 2nd acc

sounds weird

[fallen knot]

a russian prot warrior

[glass mortar]

We're they mounted or outside an instance on separate faction from u

[shell fossil]

i think i need to play floodgate intro better, keep getting 1 buffs into 3 and doing 5 mil

[fallen knot]

we started darkflame

[lime lake]

maybe the macro doesnt support russias current geopolitical stance

[glass mortar]

No clue then ur cooked

[shell fossil]

ho come back

[fallen knot]

always have been

but

that doesnt explain my tricks macro not working

[late swallow]

is it on ur bars

[glass mortar]

And it works for ur rogue?

[fallen knot]

yy

[glass mortar]

Try with another tank maybe

U are talented into misdirection right

[fallen knot]

ye

[glass mortar]

It is optional

[fallen knot]

yea ik

but i fear tanks

even with 15% threat buff

[glass mortar]

Same

[fallen knot]

also

do i do the ethical player and learn dark ranger or the pad player and play full omega aoe sentinel

[red zinc]

i mean lowkey

been playing brew

getting threat is dumb

[bright crane]

What do you mean? Like it’s hard getting threat fast as brew?

[proven ocean]

my guy wants help in a +13

💀

[red zinc]

You either have your 1min explo keg which works well

or chi burst which is a channel which sucks to press at start of pack

if your packs go turbo fast and people have 0 aggro respect its just doomed

[glass mortar]

Dark ranger because it's 10× as fun as sentinal

[bright crane]

Well as brew you should be playing phys comp

[red zinc]

ye

no shit

[bright crane]

Cmon bro!!!

get it together!!!

[red zinc]

i mean i can honestly easily keep threat outside of rogues/hunters also as long as people dont use fucking demolish on pull

[jolly geyser]

if you had brewmaster you should become drunk but deal 10% more dmg

[bright crane]

You’re playing in pugs bro

[fossil lintel]

5% of your salary, assuming 40 hours weekly or 160 monthly, is like 480 minutes

[bright crane]

Pugs know 1 thing and 1 thing only

And it’s to zug zug

[red zinc]

you'd think theyd learn a few deaths in

to not do that

[bright crane]

Ah brother, your benefit of the doubt is commendable

But unnecessary

[jolly geyser]

I have learned to just ignore most stuff in m+ for my weeklies

I just hit buttons

[lime lake]

i get threat fine except for all the times i dont get threat fine

[bright crane]

Preach king

[daring oxide]

Was just kidding m8

[echo tide]

It’s ok, a 3700 io hunter told me yesterday misdirect is useless cause it only works on 1 ability

Can’t make this shit up

[shell fossil]

i tried running blackjack one time and it gave me die

[lime lake]

at least he said gn

[echo tide]

They were French so I guess nothing surprising

[proven ocean]

[jolly geyser]

I ask if anyone want item and say "ty ty "

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel i did 12m on 5 targets, thoughts??

3 mins no food buff too

thoughts

??

?

the outlaw master is back?? confirmed??

oh no augment rune too

?

[hollow temple]

No, get out

[proven ocean]

go away pvp guy

no one asked you

wait

trying to find the person who asked

[red zinc]

There was a monk buff on the dummies fasho

[proven ocean]

nope

[red zinc]

Prove it

[proven ocean]

ok i dropped to 11m after at the end but still

[hollow temple]

No one has to ask when you’re standing for what is right

[red zinc]

Send live footage of your gameplay (taken from an alternate angle within your room to prove its you playing + handcam + footcam)

[hollow temple]

You just do it

[proven ocean]

TO PROVE ITS ME PLAYING

LIKE

WHO THE FUCK IS GONNA PLAY WELL ANYWAY

[hollow temple]

[proven ocean]

ye let me find a rogue in g2g

5 target dummy dps

surely he does better

[hollow temple]

Foot cam is CRAZY THOUGH

[proven ocean]

wait wtf

i didnt read that part

[hollow temple]

Surely you have 7 different cameras ready at all times to prove you aren’t being piloted?

[echo tide]

@elonmusk

[hollow temple]

Lemme see them dogs too tho

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix

they are so cooked they forgot to write which class

this is the whole patchnote

[glass mortar]

its every class

.....

[latent oak]

everyone gets it

bruv

[glass mortar]

its a universal ability

[vivid vessel]

ah nvm

[glass mortar]

ur the one who is cooked

[gilded tinsel]

[latent oak]

and u can use in stealth i think

[vivid vessel]

ok

even worse then

0 class changes

gg

[gaunt phoenix]

nice

[glass mortar]

in 11.1.7?

were we still imagining

[vivid vessel]

ye

[glass mortar]

there would be

[shell fossil]

theyre buffing mage again

it's crazy how they crept up mid season lol

[latent oak]

mage nerf frfr

conjure food worse by comparison gg gj blizz

[lime lake]

first meaningful mage nerf in decades

the end is nigh

[red zinc]

OK NO 11.2 today next week

[latent oak]

1 week until ks changes?

crazy

[red zinc]

1 week until ks removal

All of outlaw removal actually

[glass mortar]

that would be a ks fix

!

[magic shuttle]

back to combat

[glass mortar]

no

combat has kspree

[magic shuttle]

not unless we go vanilla

!

[glass mortar]

true, back to vanilla

!

[red zinc]

Melee 40% of dps

[magic shuttle]

back to dagger combat rogue

[red zinc]

BATCHEST

[magic shuttle]

stand behind boss

[keen wraith]

do i prioritize haste as second best secondary stat up to 25%?

my sim currently tells me crit ist better vers > crit. but i am curently at 14%.

the guide says vers > haste* > crit with a hint that haste will buff AR. But it doesnt say i need to be soft capped or anything

[red zinc]

classic wow is a collective lie where people convince eachother they’re having fun

[sudden fulcrum]

are you simming stat weights or something? you should be using top gear

[magic shuttle]

there was definitely a charm leveling to 60 for the first time

[keen wraith]

i use top gear but i used stat weight to determinate gems and missives for crafting

[sudden fulcrum]

you should not do that

[magic shuttle]

also when initially launched and the world was full of ppl it was awesome just for interactions

[sudden fulcrum]

top gear can tell you which of those things to use too

it even says at the top of the stat weights page "don't use this"

[lime lake]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[lyric crest]

feelcraft it

get as much haste as you want

noone will stop you

[fossil lintel]

The true meta is 38% haste

Get with the times

[fallen knot]

always ask for pi

[lyric crest]

offer favors for pi

[fallen knot]

this is the way

[lime lake]

dont ask

demand

[lyric crest]

i do the same to get invited into the "note tip" keys

for some reason offering to do "favors" for their immediate family members doesn't get me invited

[daring oxide]

Potentially 11.2 ptr goes live today/tomorrow?

[late swallow]

combat rogue making a return would be crazy

we'd have the same type of rotation uhdk has rn

[lyric crest]

outlaw becomes tank spec

dodge focused

[late swallow]

uhdk is a certified 2 button spec rn

[fossil lintel]

Combat will never come back, pirate sells

[lime lake]

parry focused

fencer

tank

[lyric crest]

Parry & Dodge focused

swashbuckler

[late swallow]

parry and dodge tank would go crazy

[shell fossil]

bonk class

[latent oak]

5x ss into snd into 5x ss into refresh on snd

chills

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/vibe-gif-26199092

[frail veldt]

Until you rng die

[late swallow]

keeps the gamba theme!

[magic shuttle]

It was interesting playing combat in cata classic where combat potency procced without limit

Haste felt like giga value

[lyric crest]

honestly assassination could become a tank spec too, using poison to stack damage reductions on the enemy

[late swallow]

sorry we didn't time your key, I got bad dodge rng

[fossil lintel]

Outlaw as a tank spec, feint is our active mitigation

[frail veldt]

Gamba is a fine theme but a horrible gameplay mechanic

Rng is the worst part of outlaw

[lyric crest]

i guess outlaw could get this too though..

[glass mortar]

!haste

[ornate heath]

A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The HO build gets Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[cinder relic]

Tank rogue works in classic just fine

[glass mortar]

tank rogue is a banger

i think we wont ever see anything like it in retail because brm and veng exist

[fossil lintel]

Shit I summoned guy

[magic shuttle]

Was wondering how tank rogue works in sod

[glass mortar]

and both kinda take notes from what it would be

[frail veldt]

Brm is dodge based yeah

[lyric crest]

i still think tank warlock should be a thing

[fossil lintel]

Hi guy

[cinder relic]

Hello

[frail veldt]

And they need stagger to survive

[fallen knot]

!tricks

[ornate heath]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[lyric crest]

we need at least one more tank spec imo

rogue and warlock could work

[magic shuttle]

To be fair they might just think "tank rogue in classic works so fuck it let's put it into retail"

[late swallow]

evoker tank spec would have made sense

[glass mortar]

imo a new tank should be cloth or mail

[late swallow]

instead of aug

[glass mortar]

we have 3 leather tanks

[cinder relic]

They would never think that

[glass mortar]

do we really need more

[cinder relic]

Cloth tank doesn't make sense

[lyric crest]

no no no no it does

[glass mortar]

bladesinger

[lyric crest]

Goblin alchemist from warcraft 3

[fossil lintel]

I mean they thought making us take KS was a good idea, so you never know

[late swallow]

the only cloth tank that would work would be warlock I think

[lyric crest]

but instead of sitting on an ogre

you sit on a demon as warlock

[late swallow]

with a focus on demons and shit

[glass mortar]

actually the best bg3 tank build im aware of is a wizard

[fossil lintel]

Mage tank worked in BC just fine

[glass mortar]

but its pretty cheesy

[fallen knot]

fucking kill me weran

[daring oxide]

Swashbuckler could be a cool rogue tank spec

[fallen knot]

i did not have the macro in my bars

[lime lake]

i mean cloth tank would be perfectly fine, defensive magic is all over the place

[glass mortar]

idk why it doesnt make sense tho. guy in skimpy leathers avoiding attacks does?

[late swallow]

legit what I asked