#outlaw

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wintry solar
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I just did it

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I wonder what caused him to go on that arc

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surely KS didnt make him go crazy

dim fern
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oh ok thanks a lot!

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i need to fix my ui so i can see these container buff things but that kinda broke my head

random stirrup
# wintry solar surely KS didnt make him go crazy

Hi, my name is ryukage. I an ex-ravenholdt poster. I still suffer from ravenholdt addiction. I'm currently in withdrawals. But the discord was destroyed by killing spree and hasn't been fixed yet. Meanwhile as people say the truth they still receives bans. It's comical. I cannot return. I cannot endure another damage meter bragging roast. I can't endure another 1000 posts about haste being bad and little to no cooking, on top of low damage reward for high cookage.

-Ryukage
Ex-Ravenholdt poster

vivid vessel
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Hi, my name is ryukage. I an ex-ravenholdt poster. I still suffer from ravenholdt addiction. I'm currently in withdrawals. But the discord was destroyed by killing spree and hasn't been fixed yet. Meanwhile as people say the truth they still receives bans. It's comical. I cannot return. I cannot endure another damage meter bragging roast. I can't endure another 1000 posts about haste being bad and little to no cooking, on top of low damage reward for high cookage.

-Ryukage
Ex-Ravenholdt poster

dense bolt
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my naem is jeff

glass mortar
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he just dodged any of the serious purple names checking his logs for the last year

dense bolt
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he has been spreading his wings into zac and ross stream instead

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yapping about

glass mortar
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and we are very tolerant of obnoxious types in this channel

late swallow
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we went over this about Ryu

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it started off innocent enough

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he was just being a noob suggesting weird stuff

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new player syndrome

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but he wasn't mean or toxic

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eventually it just got weird though

glass mortar
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just one of those people

gaunt phoenix
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just like you

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started off innocent enough

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then you got weird

glass mortar
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has a clinical anti-establishment (thats the mods) and anti-intellectual streak

late swallow
glass mortar
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tbf i think som was always weird

late swallow
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i came out the gate gooning

glass mortar
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consistent through and through tbh

late swallow
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never mean to anyone though

vivid vessel
wintry solar
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call it fiveskin

vivid vessel
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Ban this guy

dense bolt
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!ban somnius

wintry solar
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yknow

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with a name like Deathstrike, you wouldnt expect it to heal you

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but it do

keen belfry
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i feel like moderating a wow discord has to be weird

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cause like soms post

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you cant ban someone for that

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cuz its wow discord

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but like, you should

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right?

late swallow
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depends on your standards though

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changes disc to disc

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druid disc is crazy

keen belfry
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imagine the disc priest disc

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disc disc

dense bolt
keen belfry
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do u have same settings for each window

vivid vessel
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skill issue

dense bolt
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live ive just searched for "texture" in details

keen belfry
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i think theres an option to have diff settings for reach

dense bolt
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and changed everything that pops up

keen belfry
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theres an editing panel thing that shows which window youre editing irrc

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iirc

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sometimes its a group, sometimes its an individual window

dense bolt
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ok i found it

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ty awang

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mod awang

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W

vivid vessel
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np

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happy to have had helped

timber knoll
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Snd bug?

random stirrup
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not today blizzard employee

timber knoll
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Give a brother a crumb

keen belfry
shell fossil
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fin chuff dart now

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wish me also a ska rock steady or like that one bandge kyuss

gaunt phoenix
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@late swallow no gifs you wouldnt leave open at work

vivid vessel
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@gaunt phoenix

random stirrup
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that's crazy

glass mortar
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if chat was moving faster this wouldnt be an issue

gaunt phoenix
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no !

proven ocean
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i dont think anyone would even open discord at work

vivid vessel
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!pd

ornate heathBOT
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Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

proven ocean
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if ur that strict about it

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that is

proven ocean
proven ocean
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solo

edgy phoenix
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Twilight deb worth for 17 and above?

proven ocean
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u literally delete gifs u dont like

knotty needle
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ok i'll open that gif at work

late swallow
proven ocean
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because that alien gif is more cringe than a lion

late swallow
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literally a YOU problem

proven ocean
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just saying

glass mortar
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the alien gif doesnt have foreskin typed in massive letters across it

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weak bait

gaunt phoenix
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i delete gifs with dick and foreskin

proven ocean
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no one posted dicks

edgy phoenix
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Crazy

proven ocean
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💀

keen belfry
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are we shaming the uncut rn?

edgy phoenix
vivid vessel
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we good gang

glass mortar
late swallow
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uncut gang let's fucking go

glass mortar
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no wait we are not starting this

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poor solo

gaunt phoenix
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big letters

vivid vessel
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these leters ross

gaunt phoenix
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no !

edgy phoenix
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crazy

proven ocean
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i dont read any dicks in it

late swallow
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solo opening his comp

proven ocean
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idk

vivid vessel
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@gaunt phoenix

proven ocean
gaunt phoenix
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that's good

covert kestrel
proven ocean
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ur crazy solo

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ngl

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show that gif to ur boss

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cuz u think it looks fine

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💀

keen belfry
gaunt phoenix
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@edgy phoenix that word is filtered

edgy phoenix
glass mortar
knotty needle
proven ocean
covert kestrel
edgy phoenix
proven ocean
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guys

late swallow
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@proven ocean

proven ocean
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is steam broken

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i cant open steam

late swallow
knotty needle
gaunt phoenix
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ok all gifs are allowed

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except somn

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he will be unfairly brought to a different standard

shell fossil
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umm

proven ocean
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guys why is steam store broken

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or is it just broken for me

knotty needle
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whats broken about it

proven ocean
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not opening at all

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just closed

knotty needle
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seems to be opening just fine for me

proven ocean
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idk

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i wanna play a good game

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but

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this shit aint wokring cuh?

dense bolt
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ross play split fiction with zac

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would be a banger to watch

gusty moon
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!wa

dim fern
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my assa gear and my lack of skill is working hard here peepoguns

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soontm

covert kestrel
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Main gauche maxxing

dim fern
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last dungeon it legit did top damage on the first boss haha

elfin pine
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so which enchant are we playing boys, i see every1 having a different 1

rotund zodiac
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I hate this vault

shell fossil
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cause it's funny

random stirrup
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its that time of the week

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outlaw vault

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sub/assa vault

shell fossil
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myth shoulders

glass mortar
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it feels weird not filling my vault anymore

teal garnet
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big

glass mortar
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liberated from keys i unless i wanna push score for the rest of the season

dapper nymph
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Hello, Does anyone know how the cancelaura slice and dice tech works now ?

glass mortar
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same way it always worked

dapper nymph
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Which is

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I remember something about echoing reprimand

glass mortar
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u press SnD with supercharger up, it acts like it consumed 4 CP when it only had 1

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thats it

dapper nymph
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Is it just rng when you get a cp back then or?

glass mortar
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at 4 cp its an 80% chance but yes

dapper nymph
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ahh fair enough

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Ty ❤️

teal garnet
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does it consume SC? or we can just mash it in downtime?

shell fossil
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doesnt matter that it consumes sc, mash it

glass mortar
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it doesnt consumed SC

shell fossil
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oh it don't...

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but yeah sometimes i mash it if im gonna miss a global or two while running up to a boss

teal garnet
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guess it makes sense

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"Damaging Finishers"

glass mortar
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its the exact same bug ER had supercharger just counts as less CP

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so its not permanent

teal garnet
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gotcha I'd heard about it before on ER but never used it

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honestly between doing mechanics in raid and downtime on like 1st boss of WS intermissions etc.. its probably a pretty solid tool

glass mortar
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i barely notice the difference between using it and not in keys its definitly pretty low impact compared to ER bug

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probably less then 2 or 3% gains for players like zac

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but it feels nice to dump some CP into cdr during downtime yea

teal garnet
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for sure honestly the biggest thing for me is like

vivid vessel
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In keys

teal garnet
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I find at time ill be like maybe 1 or 2 finishers out from vanish to hold my ADR for downtime

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so that could absolutely be make or break sometimes if Im close on Vanish

vivid vessel
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You can't do it without SC up tho

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And in that case you can also just finish anyway

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Normal finisher

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There is no point doing that in combat

glass mortar
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yea the bug was never meant to be used in combat

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but sometimes u do wanna dump CP for cdr in niche situations with SnD so its nice to have

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i just hope their response to rebreaking this interaction isnt the removal of SnD

vivid vessel
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I looked at some of my logs

mighty pivot
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is it conditional when snd benefits from sc? because it definitely doesn't seem to benefit from it to me. Still 12s with 1cp 2sc and still 20% ruth chance

vivid vessel
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I gain maybe 10/20 finishers worth of sc doing that

remote pecan
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wait for them to make SnD an RtB buff

vivid vessel
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While pumping like 900 finishers a key

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Legit most useless thing ever

glass mortar
gaunt phoenix
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it doesnt work with 2sc

glass mortar
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oh yea that one

mighty pivot
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aaah ok

gaunt phoenix
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it is with 1sc

vivid vessel
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You need to consume it and not press a damaging finisher

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After

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Unless you still have another stack

teal garnet
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ah

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that changes things then

vivid vessel
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Yes lol

tight kernel
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Anyone using mugzee trinket for m+

glass mortar
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tbh i forgot that was an activating condition because thats always just where i am when i use it

teal garnet
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pretty much never going to be 1sc stack

vivid vessel
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It's useless

mighty pivot
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that's some wonky-ass shit

glass mortar
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so not generally no

vivid vessel
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Basically the only time you can use it is by pressing rtb finisher at end of packs

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Then use it un between packs

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You are more likely to lose damage doing it wrong

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Than gain damage

mighty pivot
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it doesn't even make sense that it only works with 1sc only unless it's a remnant of the old ER

teal garnet
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no for sure, if its localized to 1sc then its pretty dedge

vivid vessel
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It doesn't work with 1 sec only

glass mortar
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itd work with 3 also

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or 2

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all that matters is that u send a supercharged finisher

gaunt phoenix
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1sc as in 1 supercharger stack

glass mortar
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as ur last finisher

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before the SnD

teal garnet
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ah

vivid vessel
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It works only between consuming SC, and not using a damaging finisher after having 0 sc

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Which is 0 sc or 1 SC

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O sc not followed by a damaging finisher

mighty pivot
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ok and it still acts as a 1cp snd (12s) apparently, it is just ruthlessness that is weird with it all good perfect game Okay

gaunt phoenix
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stop debugging the issue for blizzard

gusty moon
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!wa

fallen knot
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dont ban me

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i leveled a hunter to 80

mighty pivot
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survival?

fallen knot
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probably mm

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cba taming pets

dim fern
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how come signet of the priory is not desired for outlaw? isnt the secondary stat boost sick?

fallen knot
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even though i love animals

glass mortar
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because our secondary stats suck

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its fine in aoe

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all trinkets r pretty similar this season

gaunt phoenix
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it's not particularly undesirable

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but yeah outlaw doesnt have cds and doesnt care about stats a whole lot

tight kernel
mighty pivot
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they should bring pirate bro back in 11.2

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to have a cd

late swallow
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next iteration of outlaw should take design cues from vanilla wow

glass mortar
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wdym

late swallow
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ss, ss, ss, ss, SND, ss, ss, ss

glass mortar
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kspree, haste tax

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we are already taking queues from vanilla wow

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too many infact

late swallow
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exactly! we're on the right track

lime lake
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based

mighty pivot
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poison charges are coming back soon

late swallow
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holy based poison charges would go so hard

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make it so you have to craft it as well

keen belfry
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wait someone explain how im doing my snd sc wrong on first pull of dungeons then

lime lake
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we need a class where all of your builders and spenders are solely buffs to your auto attacks

mighty pivot
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farming stv medicinemen for fadeleaf to be able to blind

lime lake
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like its outlaw apm but nothing actually does damage

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it all just buffs autos

late swallow
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can't vanish without vanishing powder pepe_chad

keen belfry
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pre key i just press a 1cp KS, then i press rtb, right before key enter i press AR, during bubble i press BF into rtb into snd macro until i run out of cps then i perss ar again and snd macro until out of cps

mighty pivot
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vanish without enough powder

echo tide
knotty needle
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poison crafting but the reagent for the best poison only drops from the last boss of the most recent raid tier on mythic, so unless you also raid mythic your mythic+ damage will be slightly suboptimal

late swallow
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we are cooking now

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@realzz take notes buddy

mighty pivot
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who needs ryuk*ge anyway

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just add blind to restless blades EZ

glass mortar
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thats all that matters

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but also... why exactly?

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are u doing all this

late swallow
glass mortar
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what are u cdring

keen belfry
glass mortar
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ok

keen belfry
glass mortar
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to proc the bug yes

mighty pivot
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fuck it add hearthstone too

late swallow
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put the blizzard item restoration on restless blades

keen belfry
gaunt phoenix
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Yes

glass mortar
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yes

keen belfry
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i just want to press RTB twice if i get terrible buffs before first pull floodgate or similiar

late swallow
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green name teaching how to bug abuse

keen belfry
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feels good

late swallow
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disgusting

mighty pivot
fervent scroll
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!prekey

ornate heathBOT
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Pre-key fuckery

  • rtb RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
  • DO NOT rtb RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not adr AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
  • After the bubble drops use rtb RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
  • Before entering the first pack bf BF into stealth Stealth.
  • Open on pack with adr AR into bte BtE.
keen belfry
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what do you do if you roll 1 buff twice on first pull CB

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and they pull triple muscle

vivid vessel
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the same damage

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moslty

hidden bay
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nah fuck this man kicks is so bad this season @vivid vessel

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1 missed kick gg key

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and theres

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so many

vivid vessel
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?

hidden bay
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we were talking about kicks and ion

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today

vivid vessel
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you just entered a key for the first time this season or what

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yes

hidden bay
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and i just did key

vivid vessel
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and you said it wasnt that bad

hidden bay
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ans

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and

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yes you were right

vivid vessel
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im glad i was arguing with a guy that never entered a key in his life

keen belfry
vivid vessel
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at least it compeled you to try m+

red zinc
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just be outlaw and live through the kick going through

tight kernel
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so since mug trinket breaks cudgel.. gally wep is prob best dinar

red zinc
glass mortar
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gally weap is only used in raid basically

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same as mug trinket

red zinc
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i dont see the logic

tight kernel
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oh.. so wtf do we dinar 2nd

glass mortar
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gally weap cant be swapped with cudgel

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whatever u want

hidden bay
glass mortar
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dinars are pretty useless for law

hybrid crown
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Stix trinket or pacemaker maybe

glass mortar
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dungeon trinket generally or magnet if uve been unlucky yea

tight kernel
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already got those=

hybrid crown
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I went with stix trinket because I hadnt seen it yet

tight kernel
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was thinking maybe cart trinket then?

glass mortar
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gally weapon for perfect ST bis

tight kernel
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over pacemaker

glass mortar
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cart trinkets good

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and by good i mean it sims about identical to the 5 other trinkets that are "good"

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but its passive and has funny animations so

gaunt phoenix
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stop thinking about trinketsssss

glass mortar
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^

red zinc
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Cart and pacemaker are identical

hybrid crown
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If I get mythic cart I'm switching back for keys

glass mortar
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literally pyf

red zinc
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So is every of the 6 trinkets

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we cooked

glass mortar
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trinkets r vibes this season

red zinc
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run cache back next season

glass mortar
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pick the ones u vibe with

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and u probably wont be far off from optimal

hybrid crown
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Everyone else can see the mine cart so it's the best one

red zinc
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Ethereal raid so xymox is back for a third time with cache

glass mortar
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void cache would go hard

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my mouseover SS macro trembles

gaunt phoenix
red zinc
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Did xymox fully die in sotfo

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I dont remember

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Actually I guess we get nexus princess kyveza again next tier

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most likely

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since they dipped

late swallow
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is it a they/them situation?

red zinc
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no

gaunt phoenix
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btw i tried to sim the belt i think not all the effects are implemented anyway

red zinc
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idk its a fuckin being of light

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princess

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idk what fuckin gender

glass mortar
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i do hope she comes back that fight was sick

gaunt phoenix
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who

glass mortar
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princess

gaunt phoenix
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kyveza?

late swallow
glass mortar
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ye

gaunt phoenix
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imagine they just print the same fight

glass mortar
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my favorite fight of the tier

late swallow
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kyveza was a cool fight for sure

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would be funny if it was exactly the same fight tho

glass mortar
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print the same fight as the basic metric but then elaborate on each phase

red zinc
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I really feel like we get ptr this week idk why

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the voices

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are speaking to me

glass mortar
red zinc
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11.2 might lowkey be a stinker they already started working on 11.2.5 MONKA (probably legion remix development)

glass mortar
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brother i hate to break it to u but they are already working on 12.0

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if u think they ever are just working entirely on one patch

red zinc
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ofcofc

glass mortar
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teams move thru stuff at different rates

red zinc
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11.2.5 ptr just came up (albeit encrypted) extraordinarily early

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they doin something

glass mortar
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yea if its something theyve had planned "waiting for a non content patch" like legion remix

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makes sense

late swallow
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i hear lin manuel miranda is getting consulted for the next xpac

vale warren
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Do they still have 2 teams working on alternating expansions

glass mortar
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basically all the framework and code is probably there from pandaria remix, just need to make whatever changes they wanna

red zinc
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cooked

late swallow
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if they don't make kyveza a latinx twink

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i don't want it

red zinc
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boy what the hell boy

gaunt phoenix
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LMAO

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your mind

vale warren
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Latinx twinx

red zinc
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They couldnt possibly mess up season 3 though

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crazy setting, and already strong expansion systems to expand on, as well as legion remix / biggest prepatch to come after

fallen knot
late swallow
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dungeon rotation might be ass

red zinc
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Eh

hidden bay
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s3 goated unless we ksing again

red zinc
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tazavesh + top 3/4 dungeons from the poll and whatever else

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Cant be that bad

fallen knot
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i hated tazavesh

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dont remember why

gaunt phoenix
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Which one

fallen knot
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but i'm pretty sure i hated it

red zinc
gaunt phoenix
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gambit and uhhhh

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streets

red zinc
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Nothin confirmed but they put tazavesh in that lorewalking quest for not really obvious reasons

late swallow
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arakara coming back

red zinc
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That and ethereal patch

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its for sure in in some way

late swallow
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KS last boss arakara

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have fun bro

vale warren
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Gambit was good except pugs never stopped the fish sticks

whole igloo
fallen knot
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no i'm just bored

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my rogue is bis, and since i wont kill mugzee with it it's done

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dk basically bis, just needs myth items

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fucking shaman has been full bis for like 2 months

whole igloo
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I just came back like a month ago out of bordem and a friend encouraging bad habits. Warrior/DK/Hunter/Rogue are 80, nothing is close to BIS but my warrior is 660?

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Heroic Raid pugs are basically my vibe

fallen knot
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rogue took 2 weeks more or less

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same for dk

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a friend came back to wow and i thought it would be nice to gear a character together

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cause if i go in +10s with him on any of those 3 characters i pretty much solo the entire thing

whole igloo
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I WFH so I can do shit like hit Undermine during the day, but I can't get into an M+ to save my life and also I just started looking at logs and realized I am super bad

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which made me sad, cause I'm outperforming alot of other DPS in these pugs?

glass mortar
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most players r pretty bad at this game

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the vast majority in fact

whole igloo
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So...like "cool, I barely parse blue...but I'm like 8th on DPS....fuck"

fallen knot
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heroic pugs, unless they're a log run, a weekly speedclear for renown/dinars, are full of casual players

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which is not a bad thing tbh

glass mortar
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discords tend to skew towards the more elitist end of the game spectrum even if the people chatting in them often forget

fallen knot
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yea people that write here are all tryhards

glass mortar
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nothing wrong with being bad at this game unless u wanna be better in which case all the tools to improve are around here

fallen knot
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especially weran

whole igloo
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Gonna start gearing up the rogue though, Assassination and Outlaw are fun plus I've mained Rogue since Vanilla.

glass mortar
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🫡

whole igloo
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(my side hope is I suck less at Rogue then I do at Fury Warrior)

fallen knot
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outlaw and fury are somewhat similar

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highpaced specs

covert kestrel
fallen knot
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well

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i want heavy crit and mastery roulette on my nightelf hunter

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so that i infinitely frontflip

bright crane
covert kestrel
worldly wing
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!fuu

ornate heathBOT
bright crane
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I bet

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I could feel the perspiration

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I knew something was up

covert kestrel
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Global humidity levels raised by 10% yesterday

glass mortar
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Feel for whatever poor fire mage u stole that ring from

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Think it might have too much vers even for them tho

remote pecan
whole igloo
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lmao

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I'm just relearning shit, it's whatever.

covert kestrel
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Oh ho hooooo

craggy barn
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!ambush

ornate heathBOT
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It is possible to use a macro to cast Ambush during Stealth/Audacity and Sinister Strike otherwise, instead of using the stealth bar:
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
*This is most useful to swap between HO and KIR builds without changing keybinds.
Stance swap delay is, for now, not an issue since we don't want to cast vanish into ambush anymore.

jovial peak
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guys what trinkets are ideal for HO M+ build?

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so many variance on logs

glass mortar
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whichever ones of the 4-5 u see that u like the most

gaunt phoenix
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geargrinder magnet whistle pacemaker are all kind of the same

edgy phoenix
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wait does geargrinder work rook last boss

gaunt phoenix
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No

edgy phoenix
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garbage trinkets

remote pecan
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geargrinder sucks, you either can't use it or it just misses 😄

edgy phoenix
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gib boon and torch

jovial peak
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not sure on what to spend my puzzling chips lol

edgy phoenix
jovial peak
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is the offhand really that good even heroic?

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compared to crafted weapons 681

edgy phoenix
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for aoe yes

gaunt phoenix
#

the trinket missing is pretty rare

edgy phoenix
#

dont you miss boon cmon

#

even plates

#

were cool

remote pecan
#

i missed mug'zee entirely the other night gachiBASS was moving with camera turned a diferent way to my character

#

rogue bike just flies across the screen

late swallow
#

plates was cool ngl

glass mortar
#

herioc capo is technically bis offhand if u dont have access to later mythic weapons but its a very low upgrade over a 684 cauldron oh or even crafted oh tbh

#

id only take it if u have no big trinket upgrades

gaunt phoenix
#

you dont use it on mugzee you use it on the adds that take extra damage garf

remote pecan
#

filthy padder 😄

edgy phoenix
#

hope we get more useful trinkets next sez

gaunt phoenix
#

Yeah this tier was like

#

a historic low

#

with melee trinket value

covert kestrel
edgy phoenix
#

yeah compared to torch and the sark trinket

#

on use dmg seems so garbage

glass mortar
#

idk solo maybe they should keep doing this

#

kinda funny we can even use stat trinkets

#

!

#

that never happens

gaunt phoenix
#

i guess

edgy phoenix
glass mortar
#

when every trinket is worth diddly/squat turns out its much easier to keep them all tuned

edgy phoenix
#

giga boring imo

glass mortar
edgy phoenix
#

would be fun to see season w/o 2 min or 1:30 cd stat trinket

late swallow
#

they'd never do that

gaunt phoenix
edgy phoenix
#

yeahh

#

manicc power

gaunt phoenix
#

look what was taken from us

late swallow
#

grieftorch was probably the most fun trinket

#

once we could cast it while moving

edgy phoenix
#

and fyrak trinket was insane aswell

#

7-10%

glass mortar
#

fryakk was pretty bad wasnt it

#

or mid anyway

gaunt phoenix
#

the heart with vers?

glass mortar
#

people forget it had no primary stat on it

edgy phoenix
#

heart yea

glass mortar
#

i thought it had crit

gaunt phoenix
#

not great but was tanky

glass mortar
#

wait am i thinking of smolder trinket

late swallow
#

people used it to live shit in s3

glass mortar
#

what was the giga direct damage proc fire trinket from that raid

late swallow
#

smolder trinket was giga for 2 min specs

glass mortar
#

baiting everyone

gaunt phoenix
#

uhhhhhhhhhhh

random stirrup
#

goated BRH stat stick tank trinket that silenced mobs but had primary stat + vers garf

edgy phoenix
#

meh

gaunt phoenix
#

what was that trinket

#

We thought it was undersimming like 6 times

civic void
#

I remember the bombs from aberrus being kinda good

glass mortar
#

oh no augury was from fyrakk

#

im not going crazy

gaunt phoenix
#

ohh

edgy phoenix
#

i hated abberus bombs

gaunt phoenix
#

augury

late swallow
#

augury was really good for certain specs

random stirrup
edgy phoenix
#

augury had good dmg

#

but no mainstat

#

sadly

late swallow
#

ret augury was crazy

#

once ret got leggo + mythic augury

#

that shit was like top 3-4 damage for ret always

stuck sparrow
edgy phoenix
#

i liked boon the most

gaunt phoenix
#

we saw that outlaw and ret got like the same value from augury but it just has comparatively worse strength trinkets

stuck sparrow
#

no driveby torching

glass mortar
#

ye strength trinkets were pretty mid that season

stuck sparrow
#

ngl a trinket has to do ridic damage to justify not having mainstat

late swallow
#

i ran atal like 70 times before mydas

stuck sparrow
#

usually

whole igloo
#

I feel old. I just remember when Dragon Spine Trophy was fucking amazing.

late swallow
#

i remember getting mythic bando and thorncaller in the same week WICKED

stuck sparrow
#

bando was just your generic

#

press do damage

#

trinket

edgy phoenix
#

yoo the box from academy

#

LMAO

whole igloo
#

DST was peak. AP and crazy haste

late swallow
#

puzzle box was hilarious haha

edgy phoenix
#

YEAH

late swallow
#

i think arms had the least annoying use of it in season 1

stuck sparrow
#

rogue you were kinda chilling

#

boon/torch/cct

gaunt phoenix
#

puzzle box on rogue

late swallow
#

bonegrinder arms was so good

stuck sparrow
#

i just played torch cct often tbh

#

because lazy

edgy phoenix
#

and azure vaults caster trinket

#

doing 10832395 dmg

#

crz shit

late swallow
#

df s2 was dog

#

s1 and s3 were great

stuck sparrow
#

s2 had the most broken caster trinket

#

ever

edgy phoenix
#

yea and introduction to aug

stuck sparrow
#

notice how comp variety is instantly higher

#

as soon as aug isnt good

glass mortar
#

tunings also decent this season

#

the outlier specs rnt outlier enough

#

idk

edgy phoenix
#

yeah its fine

stuck sparrow
#

well unholy kind of was

#

but yeah

glass mortar
#

hard to tell how much of it is aug is gone vs the broken specs arent broken

#

ye unholy was for a bit but even it wasnt as silly as enhance or seasons prior

stuck sparrow
#

i mean honestly

edgy phoenix
#

new affixes also taking part in spec variety

#

very well

glass mortar
#

and u need to kinda pull around it (which just means pull big i guess, but not every other dps can benifit hard from that

stuck sparrow
#

aug just highlights overtuned specs

#

by making them even more overtuned

#

boomkins are usually good but only sometimes does the playerbase stop pretending

#

that their spec isnt good

edgy phoenix
#

all boomies are fotms

stuck sparrow
#

average boomkin player

#

tries to count to 10

#

challenge: impossible

edgy phoenix
#

watch them all swap to sp next sez when it gets turbo meta

stuck sparrow
#

because boomkins usually fotm reroll off when it isnt the best spec

#

unless they happen to be the only mark buff in your raid

#

Which honestly is rarer considering druid has 4 specs

edgy phoenix
#

if they evne make it to season 3 with half pop unsubbing cuz addon changes

stuck sparrow
#

i dont even remember what addons are getting the axe

glass mortar
#

i mean the addon changes arent going to be in s3 afaik

#

so i doubt its gunna have any serious impact till 12.0

edgy phoenix
#

i hope so

stuck sparrow
#

"wow content creators" like to sensationalize every proposal

#

for clicks

#

actually a tumor

honest sparrow
stuck sparrow
#

Well yeah but like idk

#

most of these guys just take wowhead articles out of context

#

personally i think weakauras does too much as is

#

You should not have to import 2-3 weakaura packs

#

for a singular boss

#

multiple times in a raid

glass mortar
#

would it be crazy if i told u u didnt need to

#

maybe unpopular opinion

stuck sparrow
#

you technically dont need to

glass mortar
#

this is simply downwind of them designing the game for the race tho

#

by the time 90% of mythic raiders get to the bosses

#

they r so nerfed they do not need to use the liquid WA

stuck sparrow
#

Alot of boss weakauras exist for people to not know how to queue their mic

glass mortar
#

nor the liquid optimizations and strats

#

that were used to kill it

honest sparrow
#

WA`s can pretty much do anything. And i can understand that that a problem. On the other hand i LOVE that i can make m my ui look like anything i want

glass mortar
#

its just easier then making it up as u go

#

or playing it natty

stuck sparrow
#

like idk i pretty much disable

#

all the list weakauras

#

why do i care if the warlock has a dot on him

edgy phoenix
#

idk but current blizzard cd tracker is piece of shit and i hope they dont fkup plater

late swallow
#

wow shop addons when?

edgy phoenix
#

LITERALLY

#

make your dungeon journey easier with wow boss helper only for 24.99$

stuck sparrow
#

you need the blason ui

#

covering 90% of your screen

late swallow
#

you can pay for live voice comms with a dev during your m+ runs

stuck sparrow
#

I need to track the spriest's swp 3x on my screen

#

you wouldnt understand it

edgy phoenix
#

wow shop is like most questionable thing

#

level 70 boost is like 60 no?

#

u do it in like 1h

late swallow
edgy phoenix
#

cant even make it 80 and skip campaign

#

crazy

#

race change 25

#

cheaper to race change irl atp

sudden fulcrum
#

after you do the campaign once it takes less than five minutes to complete it

edgy phoenix
#

ye but imagine u return to wow now after sl and u gotta catch up with new zones deep into expansion already

#

or df

stuck sparrow
tawny dagger
#

@vivid vessel

vivid vessel
#

how do they get the crusher

#

after 2nd boss

tawny dagger
#

u can pull it for the tank and he los the pull after boss 2 in the room meanwhile

#

wox is using trap on it so it comes during boss 2

#

but with your comp you can only hex with sham i guess

vivid vessel
#

we have incap for that

#

we alreayd pull the guiys on boss

tawny dagger
#

so 2 on boss + 1 incap and 1 on lust pull imo

#

idk if it fits well with your comp but at least you can send lust pull 1 and get it back for pull before 2nd boss

frank finch
#

Is raid renown fixed yet

heavy linden
#

hey guys, I just started. can you give me an advise for dinars because I dont think Im doing 12s anytime soon. I think in that case I use for single target two crafted weapons? or is hero capo better? Or should I just get a trinket (hero)?

hollow temple
#

and hero capo

gaunt phoenix
#

hero capo is generally better than crafted offhand

heavy linden
#

okay thanks guys:)

hidden bay
#

Its funny how we have time gated content of .5 still going with .7 release that brings in extra timegated content

#

Bros didnt even finish timegating the dinar and have to drop us a new one

bright crane
#

And didn’t ion just do an interview saying he knows they messed up with the timegating?

proven ocean
#

I dont knew

fossil lintel
#

Next step is time gating the outlaw changes. First break the spec completely then slowly add stuff back over the next expansion.

fallen knot
#

!TRICKS

ornate heathBOT
#

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
bright crane
#

Let’s try not to become the next Ryu and play perpetual victim pls

#

Tyvm

lime lake
#

that was an honored tradition of the channel long before ryu

#

he was just the next evolution of it

#

the true endgame

bright crane
#

May be so

#

But maybe this is a chance for change

ripe ibex
#

!fuu

ornate heathBOT
granite quarry
#

!prekey

ornate heathBOT
#

Pre-key fuckery

  • rtb RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
  • DO NOT rtb RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not adr AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
  • After the bubble drops use rtb RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
  • Before entering the first pack bf BF into stealth Stealth.
  • Open on pack with adr AR into bte BtE.
red zinc
#

We should timegate zeross (1 message an hour)

#

It will turn him into a philosopher I guarantee

fossil lintel
#

Sorry, dooming about outlaw changes is part of the package deal here. Otherwise how can Guy come and yell at us for dooming too hard?

late swallow
#

Guy going over his blizz portfolio with a financial advisor

lyric bay
#

Hi guys,

I don't find the rules for RTB in the discord guide, where are they? Been using a WA for months... Kinda feel bad about it, i feel like a monkey listening instead of understanding...

civic zephyr
#

Is this accurate? Or do we just go for deadly gems instead of doing 1 of each (icyveins)

edgy phoenix
#

sim pettheshitpig

glass mortar
#

yes ugenerally want a crit gem with a least 1 of every color (not the stamina color)

#

then the rest will be haste/vers/crit gems depending on how much haste u have on gear

#

can trust sims for that

civic zephyr
#

Also for HO do we use BtE everytime its off cd (with 6+ points)

#

I haven't played since S2 of dragonflight

glass mortar
#

as trickster u can cast bte whenever its off cd yes, its not a big deal either way

#

im going to just assume trickster because thats basically all the recommended builds rn

low sinew
#

Hi guys I joined the server just to let you know how much I love killing spree.

fossil lintel
#

Ban this man

knotty needle
#

take him out back

low sinew
#

I love how much time I have to think about the mysteries of the universe when fighting the first boss of Cinderbrew or the third of DFC when i teleport into a tornado or candle.

low sinew
analog fog
#

glad u like it

proven ocean
#

no u

#

@vivid vessel

soft bobcat
#

Real late but it was a 16 or 17

proven ocean
copper radish
#

no myth track upgrades from the vault today... time to wait another week lmao

vivid vessel
proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel sub seems pointless in ur comp i think

#

no udk with same cds

red zinc
#

man I gotta get even better at the game so people invite me without requiring a tip

lime lake
#

that or just make more money

vivid vessel
#

for last boss or

red zinc
desert tendon
#

@zac sub seems pointless in ur comp i think
no udk with same cds

red zinc
#

ive reported all the tip askers

#

I cant go back

ripe ibex
#

@vivid vessel i think you convinced yoda to play outlaw

vivid vessel
#

arms is 1min30 ross

red zinc
#

i dont see 75% of the queue

desert tendon
vivid vessel
#

i asked the arms and he said 1 min pahsing wouldnt work

knotty needle
proven ocean
proven ocean
ripe ibex
desert tendon
#

why

#

is he

vivid vessel
desert tendon
#

going back to rog

proven ocean
#

he was watching zac stream

#

thats why

red zinc
#

buh tlaw on its way to get nerfed week 1 after timing all the 13s

desert tendon
#

what hapens

proven ocean
#

our score is same as yoda

lime lake
ripe ibex
#

we were watching zac

proven ocean
#

me and zac are ahead of jpc stream

#

of jpc*

desert tendon
#

you guys

red zinc
#

big

desert tendon
#

will never be ahead of ram stream

#

losers

ripe ibex
#

i got you with the perma galze tho zac and ross ngl

red zinc
#

but i still got beef with u zeross

desert tendon
#

that all it matter

#

jpc a random anyway

lime lake
#

jpcthewho

proven ocean
#

wait i lied im 1.5 points behind jpc

#

zac is ahead tho

ripe ibex
#

all of high io na glazes you guys

fossil lintel
#

did jpc get too old for outlaw or something?

proven ocean
#

we barely playing anyway

#

soon catch up COPIUM

vivid vessel
#

im actually quite proud of what i did with my people

#

we didnt play that much and we just started as a team

#

and its working well

lime lake
#

oh i read that as "for my people" at first

vivid vessel
#

im happy

lime lake
#

thought zac was outlaw moses

vivid vessel
#

and we are having fun

random stirrup
stuck sparrow
lime lake
#

first outlaw player to achieve happiness

stuck sparrow
lime lake
#

he's ascended

red zinc
proven ocean
#

ngl double rogue brought out the biggest community shock in this whole season

#

the priory 20 legendary run

#

the comp is so dogshit its unreal

red zinc
#

imagine timing west first key while dying to spear on first boss

proven ocean
#

we still made it tho

vivid vessel
#

we could have continued to time banger keys as double rogue

stuck sparrow
#

ngl the tip thing is so stupid

vivid vessel
#

but zeross didnt wanna play with me

stuck sparrow
#

if you broke just say it

vivid vessel
#

..

#

sad man sad

proven ocean
#

..

desert tendon
#

zac

#

you must be kidding

#

i gotta defend zeross

#

everytime he asked you to play with him

proven ocean
#

this time it was related to our healer censi

vivid vessel
#

that was a long time ago tbf

desert tendon
#

u replied "nah i dont wanna play double rogue and i dont wanna play without cheat and blablablabalbala"

red zinc
#

nerf employment

desert tendon
#

you re a loser zac

#

that s all

red zinc
#

employment takes too long

desert tendon
#

zerocool is superior

vivid vessel
#

i didnt say i didnt wanna play double rogue lol

red zinc
#

cant play with this debuff duration man

proven ocean
#

Censi - #1 Ramfam fan — 2:21 AM
zerocool is superior

vivid vessel
#

i just didnt wanna troll people

red zinc
proven ocean
vivid vessel
#

no

desert tendon
#

u did

proven ocean
#

yes

desert tendon
#

but like

#

twice

vivid vessel
#

i said i didnt wanna troll people

#

i would never not want to play double rogue

proven ocean
#

u explicitly said no double rogue

#

but

vivid vessel
#

thats not me

proven ocean
#

its ok zac

vivid vessel
#

uh ?

proven ocean
#

me and censi remember

#

yes yes

vivid vessel
#

why would i say that

proven ocean
#

it happened

vivid vessel
#

lool

desert tendon
#

i remember everything

vivid vessel
#

it didnt

#

thats for sure

desert tendon
#

i ve such good memory

#

no cap

proven ocean
#

same same

#

zac if we have something made up in our mind its true

fossil lintel
#

zac too good to play with zeross? =O

proven ocean
#

dont try to argue

desert tendon
#

go back to skibidi ohio zac you washed up fr fr no cap ya no dank cuh

latent oak
#

@vivid vessel ur stream is still running

proven ocean
#

go back to skibidi ohio zac you washed up fr fr no cap ya no dank cuh

#

@zac ur stream is still running

#

@vivid vessel

desert tendon
#

@vivid vessel

vivid vessel
#

how does that work

#

i tought when you hosted people

#

it would just stop

proven ocean
#

nah

analog fog
#

Bro was about to jack off

proven ocean
#

u stop too

#

ye we could've jacked off together

#

unlucky

vivid vessel
#

unlucko man

desert tendon
#

dude dont know how to host

#

and it s 2025

#

loser

vivid vessel
#

i know now

proven ocean
#

resol

vivid vessel
#

dont be mean to me

desert tendon
#

i aint no mean

proven ocean
#

i aint no mean

vivid vessel
#

i need to eat

#

brb ross

#

one sec

#

stay with me

proven ocean
#

ok

#

chat fuck off he said me ok

red zinc
#

do you ditch a premade after the tank dies on first pull meadery 9 times in a row?

proven ocean
#

dont wait for him chat

red zinc
#

I think yes?

proven ocean
#

only me

fossil lintel
#

You're so jealous it's cute ross

red zinc
#

its these frenchies man

#

cant play

proven ocean
#

true

red zinc
#

💔

vivid vessel
#

Rank 1 rogue is french I heard

#

Thoughts ?

desert tendon
#

yes i m rank 1 rogue

#

and i m french

#

thoughts?

sudden fulcrum
red zinc
#

i love woke culture, the more gay people there are the more people I can simp for and accrue score from

hollow temple
vivid vessel
#

You gay af timmy

proven ocean
#

💀

red zinc
#

i want to become the first twink streamer that gets offered keys because they’re a twink

proven ocean
#

soy master fr fr

red zinc
glass mortar
#

huh you know

#

ive never watched unholy dk stream

#

not this expac anyway

lime lake
#

good

glass mortar
#

people really werent lying when they said their 30m burst was 2 buttons were they

#

what the fuk happened to this spec

lime lake
#

abom up = spam vampiric strike

fossil lintel
#

vamp strike happened

lime lake
#

transformation

#

whatever the spell is

glass mortar
#

i just watched 30 seconds straight of vamp strike and epidemic

fossil lintel
#

I mean, they also need to defile once every 15 sec

lime lake
#

i dont play that shit spec

red zinc
#

ye

glass mortar
#

with the rare DnD placement

#

every 10s

#

wild

red zinc
#

dk is completely braindead on aoe

#

st pretty simple too but its like

#

ever so slightly brain activity

fossil lintel
#

no, during dark transformation it's also brain dead in ST for the m+ build

lime lake
#

its not the simplicity that annoys me

fossil lintel
#

You don't even set up wounds, just dark coil and vamp strike

lime lake
#

its the hero talent making them completely stop interacting with their core spec mechanics

#

its so dumb

#

hero talents so ass

red zinc
#

I get its a gambling season and everything

#

but uhdk procs gamba is just stupid

#

Should just spawn a blood beast when you press DT and thats it

fossil lintel
#

Yeah, their hero talent should make something more interesting like force them to pick up a talent that pretty much stuns them for 2 sec whenever they use it

red zinc
#

that talent feels kinda snooze now