outlaw

[red zinc]

zac actually has a slightly above average plonker

aint that crazy

[shy pecan]

should i avoid using ks on supercharger or does it not matter?

[red zinc]

(revealed to me in a premonition)

[shy pecan]

i feel it sometimes bugs out and you are stuck for what feels like 4-5 sec

[vivid vessel]

i do

[red zinc]

doesnt matter damage wise

[shy pecan]

but might be bias

[dark fractal]

ofc you get more cp

[shy pecan]

yes

[red zinc]

but if it kills you then its scary

[shy pecan]

but 4 secs

[dark fractal]

so it last longer

[shy pecan]

shouldnt be happening

prolly just feels like it

[red zinc]

you wont lose damage, just keep in mind you dont die to a mechanic

when pressing it

[shy pecan]

checks out thank

s

[vivid vessel]

ok 4k is maybe possible actually

priory 21 is 3987 then you get 22 dfc and you are at 3999 and you just need better timers to finsh

holy

[fallen knot]

ez

[shy pecan]

why has no team timed 22 dfc yet on live

[late swallow]

lock the fun in chicken jockey

[vivid vessel]

its hard cause you need to get a 22 by timing a 21

[dark fractal]

well 3rd boss dfc 22

[shy pecan]

timer looks super chill or is the wax boss ripping teams going from 21-22

[dark fractal]

i would like to see

[vivid vessel]

which cant be a 21 dfc

[red zinc]

ye

third boss wall

[vivid vessel]

also third boss on live is infinitly harder than on mdi

[red zinc]

no 20

%

[late swallow]

is third boss just an omega survivability check?

[red zinc]

avoidance

[vivid vessel]

cause htey have 20 % avoid

[vivid vessel]

healer check

[red zinc]

why wont they just nerf that boss

[vivid vessel]

but i think melee comps

[red zinc]

like honestly

[vivid vessel]

are op

[red zinc]

its so out of line

[vivid vessel]

for that boss

or

maybe not

dk strong

[rapid ore]

u still have the outlaw jumping into the candles

not so op

[red zinc]

"dk strong" -> doesnt press death strike once

[shy pecan]

when playing this boss with KS do you rely on tank to move boss out a bit after statues spawn or can i only ever ks after clearing statues?

[fallen knot]

but 100% uptime on 40% dr outlaw is still giga there no?

[stiff isle]

With melee comp u need to tank boss by statues

[vivid vessel]

ye

[red zinc]

wait

[fallen knot]

can send 1cp ks

[red zinc]

whats the math on mirrors talent from trickster

like

does the 5% dr work multiplicitavely with feint so the diff on pure aoe damage isnt that big

[fallen knot]

what if you have 2x outlaws on that boss

zac

[vivid vessel]

takes a shit ton of energy tho

[fallen knot]

healer life is 2x easier no?

[vivid vessel]

Bro one thing tho

Wox told me

You can dodge the healing debuff

By grappling the AOE

I forgot to try

[fallen knot]

druids were doing that

[stiff isle]

Lmao

[fallen knot]

in mdi

[covert kestrel]

[stiff isle]

What a mechanic

[fallen knot]

so yes

[stiff isle]

Does shadowstep work even better?

[fallen knot]

not sure

cause you dont move

you tp

dont you

[stiff isle]

Yeah idk the underlying mechanism

[late swallow]

been more than a month

[covert kestrel]

what does grappling the aoe even look like?

[vivid vessel]

prolly not

@red zinc maybe you are right and we should be playing the AOE thing in dfc

[red zinc]

i mean idk the math

cause like

[covert kestrel]

clush foresaw the downfall of the server without ryu at the helm and decided to voluntarily remove

[vivid vessel]

But it's also so hard maitnaining high uptime on feint

But I did do 2.7 m DPS with 60% feint so

Won't see an assa player do that

[red zinc]

in theory you'd take 50% of damage vs 57% of damage

[fallen knot]

ye cause

[red zinc]

but i guess the dot isnt aoe

[fallen knot]

assa doesnt have cdr on feint

[red zinc]

whats the damage share in log zac

for dot vs aoe

[covert kestrel]

completely unrelated but its wild that some people cant visualize anything in their head

[fallen knot]

do n.5 people dream in .txt files or what?

[late swallow]

[red zinc]

ok wait

cooking

[vivid vessel]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/d1qNLb9CyFcVJfD6?fight=22&type=auras&source=4&pull=8

idk tell me

[red zinc]

this damage share

with 60% feint uptime

also wait

[stiff isle]

The thing ur not seeing is heal absorb

[red zinc]

the 5% dr doesnt even apply

to the goobers

yeah okay i dont need to even math that out

aoe reduction talent will just make you take like 4% less damage on that boss zac

up to you if thats worth

maybe 5

[vivid vessel]

but the other one does nothing

since its not boss damage

soo

its prolly worth it for that key

[red zinc]

it reduces darkflame throw damage

but ye

[vivid vessel]

ye hwatever

[red zinc]

think that gets reduced by feint too

not like other bosses do targeted big damage

[gaunt phoenix]

he chose freedom

[red zinc]

if you get got by the liittle guys on first boss you're trollin anyway

[vivid vessel]

i do take noticeably less damage than others

pretty cool

[late swallow]

haha hey solo

[red zinc]

i think im just gonna try to play with the other talent all the time honestly

i dont really think the 5% is that crazy

just like atrophic isnt

idk

[gaunt phoenix]

haha

[red zinc]

guess you get hit harder by bolts

[vivid vessel]

That's stupid tho tim

5% Dr on everything is much better than 10% more AOE Dr when we have feint

That 10% more feint is legit useless

Only on this very particular place

Very niche tho

[red zinc]

yeah i guess

trying to think of big targeted damage mechanics

that actually attribute the DR

on bosses

not like the talent choice matters that much cause if rogues dying then everyones dying atp

think I had like 80% feint uptime with piss damage on my dfc just cause the healer was poor

[stiff isle]

Wait so when mambo n. 5 says "a little bit of monica in my mind" hes just thinking of the word "monica"?

[fallen knot]

yes

actually is probably "mon" or "ica"

[dense bolt]

guys is there any good perma not being a dwarf toys

or like items u can buy

[shy pecan]

1. buy atomic recalibrator
2. step over it so you change appearance for 1 hour
3. play 1 key
4. wait 12 hours until toy cooldown is up again
5. profit

[dense bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explode-cat-explode-mike-interpol-gif-13503338605162614186

[gaunt phoenix]

can always chug noggenfogger elixirs

[sudden fulcrum]

there are also savory deviate delights, blingtron (if engineer), coin of many faces, transmorpher (paid toy) and many more

[dense bolt]

is there any like good particular bloodelf/voidelf thingy except gleeful armor

or the recalibrator

[vivid vessel]

The fish

[dense bolt]

the what in tha what

[shy pecan]

how much is the fish?

[sudden fulcrum]

[dreamy pecan]

Hey me-bruddas, what am I supposed to use for.. the psuedo-poisons thing? I don't even know what to call it, the weapon buffs? I used to use Bubbling Wax and I finally ran out.

[gaunt phoenix]

whetstone / weightstone

[dreamy pecan]

Thanks, that's what it's called in the AH?

[gaunt phoenix]

'weapon consumable' is the term i think

[dreamy pecan]

Ahhh, I gotcha, thanks. In top-PvP content, you don't even use them, just for dicking around in the world and stuff, so I never paid much attention to it outside of farming the Wax.

Also, they killed using Vers flasks in random BG's now?

[shy pecan]

ironclaw whetstone/weightstone

[dense bolt]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/226359213427916800 prob a good question in here

[dreamy pecan]

They just tell me not to play Outlaw and then give me a swirlie.

[vivid vessel]

The fish

[dreamy pecan]

Outlaw is literally the lowest performing spec right now.

Only thing rated higher than it is Aug Evoker.

[fallen knot]

false

[vivid vessel]

No one knows shit about pvp in here

[dreamy pecan]

The spec that Blizzard considered a failure and abandoned.

[fallen knot]

ah it's pbp

pvp

[gaunt phoenix]

there is pvp in this game ?

[fallen knot]

then i dont know shit about that

[vivid vessel]

Ye so

[dreamy pecan]

I know, but a lot of the stuff Outlaw can do in PvE can overlap, like the rotation and stuff.

I ask general PvP stuff in #pvp, and Outlaw specific stuff in here, I just don't mention it's PvP to try and fit in.

[fallen knot]

when i play pvp

with any class

[dreamy pecan]

Like the imposter in Among Us. ;3

[fallen knot]

i do aoe rotation

[vivid vessel]

If you preface your question with pvp I will ignore it

[fallen knot]

always

[gaunt phoenix]

;3

[fallen knot]

the underlying goal is the same

kill them before they kill you no?

[dense bolt]

bruh speak words in toddler terms

[vivid vessel]

Fish

[dense bolt]

do i need to buy a rod or

few hooks?

[vivid vessel]

Animal from the sea

Swimming

Fish

[red zinc]

With how broken the game is in pve

[mighty pivot]

actually you can find fish in other bodies of water too

[red zinc]

I couldnt imagine seriously playing a mode where you have to interact with the broken classes working against you

[vivid vessel]

Pvper are stupid tho

[dreamy pecan]

[red zinc]

Stupid isnt a nice way to put it

[dreamy pecan]

You can experience the true joy of Killing Spree in PvP.

[vivid vessel]

Exhibit A @hollow temple

[red zinc]

I prefer “experiencing cranial difficulties”

[lime lake]

[vivid vessel]

Dented you mean

I agree

[dreamy pecan]

NoTrickz helped me out a ton when I first leveled Rogue at the start of this expansion.

[lime lake]

im so sorry

[magic shuttle]

Outlaw feels bad in PvP when they nerfed restless to 0.8s cdr

Very unintuitive

Imagine if they did that in pve

[dreamy pecan]

Yeah, but at the same time, I rerolled SOLELY to play Outlaw, so I'm kinda in it for the long haul.

[shy pecan]

imagine if they made bladerush and ks choice node and apply the trickster stuff to both

[lime lake]

imagine all the people

[dreamy pecan]

I haven't changed to Sub or Ass since hitting level 10.

[vivid vessel]

Idk if we would play br with how unbelievably bad it is

[dreamy pecan]

There's this one sweaty rogue who I keep running into in Skirmishes who keeps telling me to reroll.

[mellow thicket]

disorienting stikes takes precedence over all other builders, if at 2 stacks of UB and not a finisher?

and not in stealth

[hollow temple]

someone wants a banana

[lime lake]

https://tenor.com/view/bbhv-gif-4110652586696820975

[keen belfry]

what % diff would you play BR over KS? assuming BR functions with trickster the same way KS does (same cd same effects etc)

[vivid vessel]

[hollow temple]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-kel-omori-kel-stug-stuggy-gif-26885225

[vivid vessel]

3/4 I think

In m+

[keen belfry]

yeah i think if we were 5% or more id be like man ihave to KS still

[vivid vessel]

Ye

[magic shuttle]

Br the uncapped aoe spell

[keen belfry]

i know KS is a skill check, but its a skill check i hate so so much

[frail veldt]

yeaaah

its a skill check that still fucks you

holding a rotational button due to risk of death is annoying

[keen belfry]

how bad is sending low combo point ks

[latent oak]

blubbery muffins are all u need

[keen belfry]

i do it more ofthen than i should on scary bosses

[frail veldt]

like 3-4% loss

if you always send 1cp ks

[keen belfry]

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[frail veldt]

its not that much tbh

[keen belfry]

oh i dont always, okay thats not TOO bad

i think 3rd boss mecha i always send low ks tho

[latent oak]

3rd boss mecha is wierd with ks

i swear u just dodge the cogs even if they visually hit u

[keen belfry]

yeah but then u land in one

[latent oak]

even then

even if i land in one it just sails past

idk

funky stuff happening on that boss with ks

[keen belfry]

ive said this so many times but im going to look back at this season and think about the hell i went thru with KS

just for my love for oulaw

[frail veldt]

and those who abandoned us in our darkest hour

[keen belfry]

i abandoned law until the BF fixes

[frail veldt]

lol I just stopped playing

[latent oak]

if they just change ks next season

gunna be a banger

[red zinc]

yeah the hitboxes arent accurate

[latent oak]

bc outlaw atm minus ks goes so hard

[red zinc]

you will get hit while not in them also

[keen belfry]

i very much like current outlaw

[red zinc]

just gotta stay 20 meters away from em

[keen belfry]

i have a lot of fun in priory cause thats a press KS no thinking dungeon

[latent oak]

does the visual lag behind the hitbox or something

[red zinc]

uh

i think its just offset

but could be delayed no clue

[stiff isle]

The gear hit boxes are slightly delayed from the visual and slightly smaller (to avoid pissing people off, especially on high ping)

[glass mortar]

its not rlly hitbox so much as how long kspree teleports last

alot of ground effects have a minimum time to be in them to tick

and that time is very low but ksprees teleport timer can be lower

for alot of those ground effects u only trigger them if u get teleported twice in a row into them because the game is acting like u were sitting in them for 0.6s

[past falcon]

u can killing spree during 2nd boss priory castigator shield cast (when he first puts the big circles on the ground, not when they expire) and take no dmg 🙂

actually there’s a decent number of mechanics like that

[glass mortar]

ive teleported into the gears 3 times during a kspree and come out with a dot tick so small only one truly ticked me

[past falcon]

as long as you are IN killing spree

[sullen walrus]

for raid it's good build?

[glass mortar]

the important thing to remember is the most dangerous part of kspree which is it can desync the last teleport meaning you lose ur stagger

not that u can do much to outplay that when it does happen if ur in a bad thing u tend to just die

[glass mortar]

dont think 1 fth is generally considered a raiding build

maybe zacs playing it on a few pad bosses idk

[keen belfry]

ive died more this tier in m+ than all tiers combined

[glass mortar]

nah zac doesnt even play that on gally

[glass mortar]

yup

it is funny too because 90% of the deaths are just to doing ur rotation

u didnt tunnel vision, u didnt fail to dodge swirlies or fail a mechanic

the only thing u failed was pressing ur funny rotational button 1 second too greedily (u press the button 20 times a fight btw)

[keen belfry]

i just miscalculated the exact moment my KS would end and a swirlie also spawned under flying me

🙂

[sullen walrus]

can someone tell me about raid build?

[keen belfry]

and then random guy who has never played KS or outlaw will be like "why not just hold a few seconds" 🙂

[sullen walrus]

kir trickster it's good?

[magic shuttle]

On sprocket yeah

Also good for mugzee

[gaunt phoenix]

not trickster

[keen belfry]

solo why havent u fixed us yet

?

[gaunt phoenix]

?!!?

[sullen walrus]

first and second boss

[magic shuttle]

Oh was thinking fb

[gaunt phoenix]

yamato

HO or KIR trickster is the same

[keen belfry]

im so done with solo for this week

[gaunt phoenix]

in raid

[sullen walrus]

yeap yeap

[sullen walrus]

its ho yeap?

how much haste/vers i need for ho build ?

[gaunt phoenix]

HO is not super picky about haste, probably around 18% it will optimize

but just raidbots top gear it

vers is the same as kir

its not a number

you just want vers

most geared outlaws have >30% vers

[sullen walrus]

these trinkets it's good?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

[midnight granite]

What should I buy with dinars

Played sub all tier and just wanna fuck around now

Capos and?

[keen belfry]

magnet good hoc good

[gaunt phoenix]

mythic trinkets :strug

[keen belfry]

i kinda wanna make a pacemaker WA and see how bad the procs can be

[midnight granite]

Is the other weapon not worth

?

[gaunt phoenix]

not really

u cant swap it

[vivid vessel]

@dense bolt fish

[gaunt phoenix]

and in raid its like 0.4% gain so w.e

[midnight granite]

Oh right cringe weapon swap with 500ilvl offhand

[sullen walrus]

for first and second boss we use capo weapon , yeap?

i have 684 myth + capo

[gaunt phoenix]

you use capo always in raid

[sullen walrus]

but for aoe event weapon, yeap?

[gaunt phoenix]

not in raid

The vanish thing doesnt work on bosses remember

[sullen walrus]

but in pack of mobs

we use event weapon, yeap?

[glass mortar]

in dungeon packs yes

[gaunt phoenix]

in keys

[prime umbra]

Do we have any sims on the delve belt up?

[gaunt phoenix]

i havent ran any

[keen belfry]

weran are you waeran

[gaunt phoenix]

i believe it has some simc implementation

but i probably wont bother until closer to release

cuz they will tune the thingies

on it

[glass mortar]

no waeran is an imposter

dont trust em

[keen belfry]

i saw him in lfg

[dense bolt]

u a salmon

[late swallow]

did u get pirate or ninja

[jolly geyser]

noggenfogger toy in undermine

costs 50silver each use

[sullen walrus]

can i use hekili on raid for ho build? i didnt know how to play this build

@gaunt phoenix

[gaunt phoenix]

you can but rotation helpers will limit your potential

you also dont have to play ho

[sullen walrus]

dont use pistol shot yeap?

[gaunt phoenix]

i told you this !

[sullen walrus]

but for raid i think it's better

[gaunt phoenix]

HO or KIR trickster is basically the same in raid

[gaunt phoenix]

you do

but ambush has priority

the builder priority is pretty simple

ambush (if available) > opportunity (if available) > ss

[late swallow]

solo post ur logs

[gaunt phoenix]

why

[late swallow]

just screenshot your logs bro

[dark fractal]

@vivid vessel What am i supposed to tell him :(, almsot 3k9 rio first pack floodgate he told me "rog?" cause i was at 11M dps kekw

We can't play outlaw

😦

go reroll

ggs

uninstall

[gaunt phoenix]

[vivid vessel]

ye thats me

[glass mortar]

11m first pull what a awful spec go next ig

people r crazy

[dark fractal]

i mean what's tilt me more

it's a 3k9

mid pack of first pull

saying rog? in chat

like

[glass mortar]

did a workshop 15 last night and the balance druid finished the first room at 19m dps

i finished at 10m

[vivid vessel]

I know who it is

no one else in that stupid server

[glass mortar]

beat him by 900k by the end

it do b like that

[dark fractal]

i mean yea outlaw we have good overall at end

[dark fractal]

first time i see this serv tbh kekw

i guess he is alone in

[fallen knot]

people that say outlaw bad are jealous that they tried outlaw and did shit with it

[edgy phoenix]

will new api changes affect simming?

[vivid vessel]

bro what

[edgy phoenix]

hm

[vapid sundial]

what do you mean by affect sims

no

sims will work fine

API changes never really change how you sim, it just might make something be more optimized and it ends up being bette than people thought

Just carry on as you have been

[vivid vessel]

thats an apl

[vapid sundial]

yeah my b, no sleep and i read i as L

[vivid vessel]

next reset we have another 3% right

its not this reset

like curretnly on

[frank finch]

2marow

[edgy phoenix]

belts?

[frank finch]

belt is 17th

[craggy barn]

ye this reset zac

[edgy phoenix]

whats this reset

[frank finch]

3 % raid buff

[vivid vessel]

no the next one right

[craggy barn]

this coming one

[vivid vessel]

yeye ok

[craggy barn]

wednesday for u

[civic zephyr]

hey, im considering making an outlaw alt, is it considered hard to play ?

[late swallow]

outlaw is probably one of the easiest melee specs

[edgy phoenix]

0/10 rage bait

[frank finch]

[vivid vessel]

insane rage bait

master at work

r1 gooner somnius

[civic zephyr]

ok, thanks

[lime lake]

blade flurry does all your damage in aoe

[gaunt phoenix]

simc relies on a lot of data to be read from the game files

i don't think that the combatlog api changes will affect it but im not sure

[lime lake]

actually piss easy spec fr

[late swallow]

literally just press BF

[edgy phoenix]

ye thats what i was askin

if it will somehow affect it

[vivid vessel]

no one knowns what the api changes will be tho

[lime lake]

i feel like if simc is effected blizzard will work to fix that

that doesnt feel like something they'd willingly target

[vivid vessel]

also simc will not be affected its all external

[lime lake]

but who knows

[sullen walrus]

when unseen blade have cd we use cp or ks?

[edgy phoenix]

just delete simc

[vivid vessel]

worse thing is we know a bit less about how the game function to replicate it (not likely)

worse thing the /simc addon spots working which would be annoying

but also you can rebuild your char if you want

[gaunt phoenix]

cp or ks? idk what you mean

[glass mortar]

probably shamelessly spreading misinfo rn but i did see this passed around in wow discords

addons that thye plan to impact with the api changes

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/e_5irBR0A51UtJyKrSAI12isDnIE70xBS5DCPW1Ubok/%3Fformat%3Djpg%26name%3Dlarge/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/GstP2HUXkAENdjW?format=webp&width=770&height=480

[edgy phoenix]

this a twitter post from some guy

[lime lake]

that was a guys impression of what would be effected

[gaunt phoenix]

ye that's from nnoggie and it's just his interpretation

[lime lake]

not whats actually planned

[sullen walrus]

cdg

[gaunt phoenix]

ah

you ks

[glass mortar]

based on what ive heard it sounds accurate tho

[late swallow]

i still don't get these addon changes they're forcing

[lime lake]

could be yeah

[edgy phoenix]

i mean ye all combat addons as they said i guess

[lime lake]

AllTheThings wont be effected so i see this as a massive win overall tbh

[edgy phoenix]

i get in pvp tracking enemy cds but whats so bad about seeing if ur dps has defs in keys

[late swallow]

commes de garcons?

[lime lake]

transmog will be acknowledged as the endgame pillar it is

[late swallow]

solo is 100% the type of guy to wear CDG

[civic zephyr]

When we break stealth shall we use in between the eyes on cooldown ?

[edgy phoenix]

idk im gonna start trusting those comments for wow console setting up

[civic zephyr]

As its free and can use multiple times

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[edgy phoenix]

ye its highest prio during sub

[gaunt phoenix]

bte is your only finisher during stealth

[late swallow]

solo what color are your commes de garcon chuck taylors

[civic zephyr]

Do you open with ambush?

[vapid sundial]

ngl amazed somnius made it past the purge

[gaunt phoenix]

if you need to build combo points

[civic zephyr]

Oky

[gaunt phoenix]

but at the start of a key or raid

[civic zephyr]

And how are you guys doing in m+ ?

[late swallow]

i've never been mean to anyone straight up

[edgy phoenix]

wait what

[gaunt phoenix]

you open with adrenaline rush > gs+bte

[edgy phoenix]

DETAILS?

[civic zephyr]

Gs ?

[glass mortar]

could be yea

depends on ur games ability to interact with the combat log

[gaunt phoenix]

ghostly strike if you have it talented

its not on the global

[civic zephyr]

Oh that one yes

[vapid sundial]

yeah but ive gotten yelled at for being nsfw in outlaw before, but ig they just gave up on that

[gaunt phoenix]

they implied they are making their own details

who knows if real details will be discontinued

[edgy phoenix]

cant wait for blizzard to release their alternatives for all of these

[late swallow]

built diff I guess

[vapid sundial]

solo gave up being antigoon

[glass mortar]

listen im all down for blizzard versions of addons that dont consume more resources then the actual game itself when running

i just dont believe them

[late swallow]

solo's got his legs behind his head 90% of the time anyways

[vapid sundial]

on god

[glass mortar]

hard for me to imagine them giving us the level of customization or tools we can get from addon creators

[vapid sundial]

imagine not needing a fucking $600 cpu to run all of these addons and get 144fps

[edgy phoenix]

nah its gonna take them 2 expansions to get where wa

are now

[glass mortar]

no shot they ever get where WA are now

[late swallow]

not having an external server rack for your addons

[glass mortar]

i dont even believe that would happen

[edgy phoenix]

ur right

[lime lake]

thats not even the goal in the first place

[vapid sundial]

maybe they hire the wa guy frfr

and let him fully implement

[edgy phoenix]

no fr the console setting up stories making sense now

[lime lake]

cant wait to play wow on my xbox 720

[edgy phoenix]

gonna turn wow end game into bot friendly

[vapid sundial]

eh

Most classes can be played on controller

theres enough time

[edgy phoenix]

yeah but content

[vapid sundial]

between casts etc

Itll most likely just be letting you make sub menus with

LT RT
LB RB

Which is just the equivalent of shift alt ctrl

[frail veldt]

but thats reality

[vapid sundial]

i know it is

im saying if they made their own addons

[frail veldt]

ah

well blizzard default ui tends to run better than aftermarket

like nameplates/buffs/etc

[vapid sundial]

ye

[desert tendon]

i know someone who tried to play hunter on controller

@fallow hinge

[desert tendon]

and if it was only addons that held down the performances

[vapid sundial]

for me it mostly is

details / elvui

wow making their own details may actually help a LOT

[frail veldt]

elvui lol

what a waste of an addon

[desert tendon]

elvui is fine nowadays i think

[frail veldt]

its just a giant nothingburger

[desert tendon]

the worst are nameplates and details, if they re badly setup

[vapid sundial]

i like it bc i know how to use it

[frail veldt]

yeah with plater you just reduce the update frequency

and never have to worry about anything

[desert tendon]

some people cant live with elvui

but you know

[vapid sundial]

ye

[desert tendon]

as i always say

[vapid sundial]

elvui s fine

dealers choice

[frail veldt]

people are elvui addicts

[desert tendon]

if you use everything from elvui, stick with it

[vapid sundial]

The style filters on nameplates is the main reason I use elvui

or would, but now that no sham i prob dont need

[frail veldt]

elvui is just a skin haha

[vapid sundial]

since im not perma tab target

[frail veldt]

its barely an addon

[desert tendon]

if it s only for couple features, getting 2 addons will be better than using elvui just for these

[vapid sundial]

bro

thats just not true

xd

you have never used elvui ig

[frail veldt]

yeah exactly

[ember rain]

Echoing Void still bugged?

[desert tendon]

Elvui can be really good tbh Mewo

if you re not a dude that just import a streamer profile and dont do tweaks on it

[vapid sundial]

style filters is the main thing

Its really nice for tab target classes that need to put debuffs on everything

[desert tendon]

they improved a lot on nameplates last expansion also, it s almost similar to plater

[magic shuttle]

keys are really fun rn. ppl caughton physical comp and it's easier to find druids warrs and monks in lfg

[desert tendon]

great

when the season is dead and over

[vapid sundial]

Mob not casting?

Not important?

has lashing flames and flame shock on it? Its plate gets hidden!

thats how i had mine setup anyway

[magic shuttle]

season still has a long way to go

[copper radish]

Did outlaw, arms and BM the other day was fun asf

[desert tendon]

i m just messing arround retrog

i quitted so

[magic shuttle]

sadge

[edgy phoenix]

sadly

mid patch content giga boring

[desert tendon]

it s time for m+ data

[frail veldt]

yeah I just feel like elvui is more of a familiarity thing. And if you use a dedicated addon for each thing then it usually ends up being better performance/functionality

[desert tendon]

let s check

[magic shuttle]

im gonna enjoy this tier set bonus before it goes away

[frail veldt]

I know so many people who just use it for the skin

[vapid sundial]

Yes

[desert tendon]

yea cool

[vapid sundial]

that is true

[desert tendon]

not a single comp still

[frail veldt]

is that sub rogue I see?

[edgy phoenix]

elvui is jus a habit

[ancient cobalt]

guys i will have to extend my swap to outlaw another week i got distracted by the switch 2

apologies to all my friends

[vapid sundial]

again ,i disagree

[desert tendon]

yea as i said, if you use, let s say, only half the features of elvui, it would be better to use 5 differents addons instead of the giga thing that s elvui

[vapid sundial]

if you actually know how to change things in elvui

[frail veldt]

Yeah for sure

[vapid sundial]

but the layout is kinda shit

i wont lie

[frail veldt]

I think more peoplea re in that category than they realize

[vapid sundial]

it takes forever to find some stuff

[desert tendon]

Yea i feel like the elvui settings pannel is bad

it s really not user friendly at all

but i would bet at least 95% of elvui users either use a profile found on internet or the base elvui profile

[jolly geyser]

I didnt when I used,took fucking ages for me to setup back then

then my pc exploded,always fun

[keen belfry]

where

or what do u have it set to

mines .15

[frail veldt]

Idr off the top of my head what I have it set to

But I solved almost all of my framerate issues in big pulls in m+ with that setting

Due to playing with a frost mage haha

I think their constant AOE debuff application fucks my PC

[fallen knot]

so i need help with a weakaura: i want an icon that shows rend if i have 1 mob around me and it shows thunderclap if i have 2 or more, is it doable?

it's for a friend, i'm never playing arms warrior

[frail veldt]

It is but counting mobs within a range is generally expensive and a little unreliable

But it's definitely possible

[fallen knot]

i have the sub mob around me wa, and yes it says it's cpu expensive

but

[frail veldt]

Zac has a bladeflurry target count wa you could probably retrofit to do this

[slow ice]

Love this from you

[delicate seal]

Backup wtf

[fallow hinge]

[delicate seal]

Just play bm

[hasty warren]

Yo pirates

[delicate seal]

I did console port and outlaw

Grappling was a nightmare

Otherwise wasn't too bad

[delicate seal]

Isn't rogue and monk some of the lesser played classes

Kinda funny

[magic shuttle]

i think monk has been steadily going up

[magic shuttle]

gonna surpass warlock in due time

[proven ocean]

nice killingspree

[glass mortar]

glad to see that ultra scuffed awful runs happen to zac on mugzee too when he gets a bunch of mechanics

i wasnt even on the meter on our kill when i had to do ice shoes and prisons twice

prob doing like 2.4m dps

[desert tendon]

[vivid vessel]

healer stunned me

not my fault cuh

[fallow hinge]

[vapid sundial]

MY OLD ICON

[desert tendon]

whatcha squinting

[fallow hinge]

[fallow hinge]

I'd've stunned ya too

[novel socket]

is there a mechanic in mythic bandit that we can cheese with evasion ?

because i noticed lorrgs that they cast it a lot

[vivid vessel]

@fathom bramble

we are killing

gallywix

[novel socket]

does it stop dmg from the adds ?

[vivid vessel]

before

last

add

set

[glass mortar]

ur the greediest mf

[vivid vessel]

with a buyer

[glass mortar]

i sae that kspree

that ended

0.05 nanoseconds before boss frontal obliterated u

bozo

[vivid vessel]

ks put me behind

i cant take a frontal

[glass mortar]

u sure ur not in his box for that?

[vivid vessel]

while being behind

usually im not

[glass mortar]

looked like his butt being on the opening made u inside him

maybe not tho

[vivid vessel]

that frontal was indeed weird tho

[glass mortar]

it did end before

yea

[vivid vessel]

I cant parse on gally anymore

so sad

[glass mortar]

nothing that im aware of

maybe they r playing evasion DR and using it for DR

[fathom bramble]

Just that easy

Time to go for boss damage

[gaunt phoenix]

check log for dodge events

[vivid vessel]

+3% damage next week

we are still stoping dps on mugzee

1min dps stop

[proven ocean]

are u guys stupid or what

just play the new strat

do 1st goon cage + last one only

and boss die

we need more dps infact

with this strat

super easy

u do 1st cage and then maybe even in ur guild u can kill it before last cages

idk how big dps u guys have

@vivid vessel btw zac i was wondering

nvm im not wondering

i ordered pizza cant wait to eat it

anyone wanna eat

[hollow temple]

[proven ocean]

with me

?

notrickz

hello

how are you

?

[late swallow]

i ordered pizza cant wait to eat it

[proven ocean]

somnius[JOE]
— 11:26 PM
i ordered pizza cant wait to eat it

[hollow temple]

i ordered pizza cant wait to eat it

[proven ocean]

notrickz

i became pvp master

[frank finch]

i ordered pizza cant wait to eat it

[proven ocean]

no cappi

[hollow temple]

i ordered pizza cant wait to eat it

[proven ocean]

guys

im wondering

does anyone in this chat hate pizza

cuz

if u do

dont say yes

cuz

we'll all hate you

good

i guess no one

[hollow temple]

za is gud

[proven ocean]

za is gud ye

[modern quarry]

yes (with pineapple)

[proven ocean]

ayami

dont u date

??????????????????????????

[hollow temple]

fuck ur za

[vivid vessel]

[proven ocean]

with pineapple

[hollow temple]

my za better

[vivid vessel]

good luck

[proven ocean]

1 out of 1 outlaws

nice

[vivid vessel]

ross

you are washed up

[proven ocean]

dont ross me

no u

noob

absolute bozo

[leaden folio]

zerocool not r1

noob

[proven ocean]

💀

[vivid vessel]

whats better about the strat tho

[hollow temple]

what’s the best za ross

[proven ocean]

u parse well

and no goon cages

[vivid vessel]

ye but

[proven ocean]

only 1st and last

[vivid vessel]

i need argument

[proven ocean]

xD ?

wdym argument

[vivid vessel]

thats not

enough

[proven ocean]

u dont stop dps

[vivid vessel]

does it make boss easier

[proven ocean]

u guys are making the fight longer

[vivid vessel]

cause my raid leader

[proven ocean]

for no reason

[vivid vessel]

wont dont it

[proven ocean]

ur raid leader is stupid as fuck what can i say bro

copy this btw

[surreal flower]

You take less damage in p3

[proven ocean]

zac's raid leader

[surreal flower]

Cause less moxie stacks

And p3 is harder than p1

[proven ocean]

u can suck my balls with ur "lets do it the hard way because it makes logs worse so it means its better for killing the boss"

stupid ass fuck

[vivid vessel]

i mean i hate it just as much as you

[proven ocean]

its not even better for killing the boss

[hollow temple]

Rude

[vivid vessel]

but i need arguments

cause he wont do it

[proven ocean]

its legit

worst

worse*

[lime lake]

tell him r1 outlaw says its better

[proven ocean]

zac

i raided so many times

and i've seen my share of RLs

these RLs sometimes like to do things the hard way to ruin logs and triggers something in their head making them think its better for killing the boss

[random stirrup]

It is easier, less dmg to raid, skip goon mechanic that is liable to be screwed up

[vivid vessel]

frrr

[random stirrup]

If you can make the dmg check there’s no reason not to imo

[proven ocean]

i think we even 1 shotted mugzee or someshit

i dont remmeber

its super easy to just burn the boss down

u ignore last mines

nothing to do

xD

[random stirrup]

he died before last mines even on our kill

[proven ocean]

boss dies before mines come to u anyway after 1st cc

[random stirrup]

Boss go boom

[proven ocean]

i hate most RLs

most of them are stupid as fuck

they have ego and think they're doing everything perfectly

[compact smelt]

3 heal strat is easier than 4 heal ngl

if you have a competent raid team

it’s just better

[random stirrup]

3min push -> intermission -> 1 set of mines -> 4 goon cage -> boss dead

[proven ocean]

we areen't even 3 healing it

thats the funny part

[proven ocean]

exactly

[compact smelt]

ye you can 4 heal early push

but you don’t need to

[proven ocean]

its free so ye

we do it

np

my guy is stopping dps

end of the season

💀

[random stirrup]

Even if people die to spears on that set of mines after intermission it’s easily killable anyway

[novel socket]

okie, ty

[bright crane]

I actually don’t like pizza. I generally think most italian food outside of Italy is hardly worth spending money on its 99% the same everywhere and mids at best HOT TAKE

[proven ocean]

??????????????????????????????????

how do u not like pizza

u probably had rly bad pizza

in ur life

or u have extremely bad taste in food

[bright crane]

It’s bread and hot cheese

And some tomato juice

It’s fine

[visual zephyr]

ah dude i hate that meta hoar players... one balance dudu whisp me and say why didnt u hit 30+m opening dps with bl u are noob but end of dg he cant pass me on meter... lot of player no idea how outlaw rogue do dps 😄

[late swallow]

Pizza is really good

[bright crane]

I mean it’s the US - pizza can only be so good. Even in NYC and Chicago - like it’s “good” but it’s like

[late swallow]

You need sourdough starter in your dough

And a nice charred undercarriage

[bright crane]

Like its pizza it’s w/e

[proven ocean]

??????

bro

[late swallow]

Italian pizza is a meme

US literally does better pizza

[proven ocean]

u sound like that guy who loves smash burgers with 100 sauces that are impossible to chew because they melt before they even get into ur mouth

and fries with 100 sauces, bacon and 100 other random shit

[bright crane]

Smash burgers are lol

Just a fad

Smash burgers are also just fine. I don’t get the hype over them vs a regular burger

[magic shuttle]

i find italian pizza has better tomato sauce quality than US ones

but I do love a thick american pizza one in a while

[bright crane]

If I HAD to eat a pizza I prefer deep dish

[late swallow]

Deep dish is so bad bro

[keen belfry]

yugman cooked

[bright crane]

Like I said

[proven ocean]

ur actually the most cooked person i've ever talked to since ryu got banned

[bright crane]

Hot take

[proven ocean]

ngl

[magic shuttle]

the pictures of a deep dish makes it look like a pie

[bright crane]

LOOOL

[frank thicket]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[leaden folio]

tacos > pizza

[bright crane]

Pizzas are also called pies so it tracks

[proven ocean]

???

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

well i did hear some italians call it a piee

which surprised me

[bright crane]

They call pizzas “pies” in the us all the time

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel can u play later today btw

?

m+

or

idk if u play after raid

[bright crane]

Zeross do u like pineapples on ur pizza

[magic shuttle]

i wonder why fist weapon has 80 durability when other one handed weapons have 110 durability

[bright crane]

or are you a purist

[jolly geyser]

fisting takes a toll

[magic shuttle]

i guess it's supposed to be a faster weapon in the old days

like a dagger

[proven ocean]

idk how pineapple gives u pleasure

in ur brain

ur brain has to be too fucked to enjoy that ngl

pineapple on pizza is worse than liking feet pics

its not even close

[jolly geyser]

pineapple eats you back when you eat it fresh

[remote pecan]

copying this mug'zee chat into my raid chat because we're trying to prog mug'zee and stopping dps too which i've said not to do

[jolly geyser]

I like ananas on pizza,fits on chicken,jalapeno

[proven ocean]

ananas is literally pineapple

idk why u randomly gave it a fancier name

[proven ocean]

cooked

[late swallow]

Ananus on my pizza

[proven ocean]

anunass

[jolly geyser]

nah,just a pussy

[bright crane]

Hawaiian pizza is chill

https://tenor.com/view/noah-centineo-chef-kiss-delicious-yumm-yummy-gif-19753149

We cookin

[craggy barn]

its aight

[jolly geyser]

but taste is like assholes,we all got one

[frail veldt]

You have that backwards

The saying is pizza can only be so bad

Even bad pizza is still pretty good

Lol

[frail veldt]

Agree with zeross here

"if I HAD to eat a pizza" is an asinine thing to say

[bright crane]

Why

I don’t like pizza

[wintry solar]

I have a soft spot for shitty arcade pizza

[bright crane]

And if I have other options, I’ll choose those over pizza

[frail veldt]

Yeah that's the asinine part

[jolly geyser]

Im not a picky eater,no allergies either that I know of

[bright crane]

Why is a personal taste preference asinine

[frail veldt]

I mean to not like it is fine but I think if you don't like it then you aren't really placed to have an opinion on it's quality

If you don't like it as a whole then your taste preferences within it are irrelevant

Also you do gotta acknowledge that not liking pizza is a pretty niche taste preference

People love dat shit

[jolly geyser]

carbs,fat and salt

[frail veldt]

Like almost universally

[wintry solar]

It's not fine to like it wdym

[frail veldt]

It's like an objectively good flavor combination

[wintry solar]

Opinions can be wrong

[frail veldt]

They can't be wrong they can just be uncommon

[wintry solar]

No

[frail veldt]

Lol

They're only wrong if they're based on false facts

But the fact is that they eat pizza and don't enjoy the taste

That's not wrong

[wintry solar]

And the false fact is pizza isn't good

[nocturne folio]

depends on the pizza, and good is relative, depends on what you are comparing it to

pizza is good junk food

and junk food is what it is

[frail veldt]

Yeah I agree with that

[frail veldt]

not all pizza is junkfood

[wintry solar]

Good for the soul

[jolly geyser]

also difference with between us pizza and eu pizza imo,maybe its ingredients

[wintry solar]

A lot of places don't let the dough sit

[frail veldt]

theres bad and good pizza in boht the US and EU

the average might be higher in certain regions

but the US is a very large place and definitely has very good pizza

[craggy barn]

theres so many different types of pizza that source ingredients from different places

hard to say either eu or us pizza is better than the other

[frail veldt]

but I think the main thing to agree on is that pizza is good lol

[proven ocean]

U can choose whole wheat too, very healthy pizza here just a ton of carbs, perfect for bodybuilders i suppose

[jolly geyser]

pizza good yes

[frail veldt]

I feel like eating pizza for its healthiness is pointless

[glass mortar]

just eat healthy food yea

healthy pizza is mid af

but good pizza is good ass pizza

[frail veldt]

yeah

[proven ocean]

And this is like one of the tastiest pizzas ive had

And its super healthy

[jolly geyser]

lasagna and pizza one of my favs foods, similar

[proven ocean]

Honesty possibly the best pizza aswell

[frail veldt]

I really doubt the "best" pizza is in dubai

frankly

[glass mortar]

how are u ever gunna get a objective metric of that tho

[frail veldt]

food tourism af

haha

[lime lake]

eat a lot of pizza

[frail veldt]

youd have to have been around the world eating pizza

[glass mortar]

yes just pick a guy u like the takes on

[proven ocean]

Best pizza ive had

[glass mortar]

and see what he says ig

[frail veldt]

yeah thats fair

[proven ocean]

Im not saying its the best pizza ever

I had some pizzas in italy

[glass mortar]

italy pizza is mid

[proven ocean]

They werent as top tier as that one

[frail veldt]

ive had some shit pizza in italy

[glass mortar]

i stand by this opinion

[frail veldt]

and some good pizza

[glass mortar]

💅

[proven ocean]

I dont think any country has the best of everything

[frail veldt]

you can get bad pizza everywhere haha

[late swallow]

Italy pizza is 80% crust

Neapolitan is a meme

[lime lake]

no shot you're shit talking italian pizza

[proven ocean]

As far as i know, i’d argue we have the best hot chocolate in the world from one cafe only

But

[proven ocean]

Idk what else we may have thats better than everywhere else

[bright crane]

Zeross what’s good with this whole Dubai chocolate craze

[nocturne folio]

Generally speaking, where there is money, there are gonna be good chefs and you can find good food. Outside of that, places that can locally source fresh ingredients are op

[bright crane]

It’s just kadayif coated in chocolate

[proven ocean]

What chocolate craze

U mean the pistachio chocolate?

[bright crane]

Yeah

Shits everywhere

[proven ocean]

Well

I know

[bright crane]

I’m like have you not had kadayif before or what

Even the little Mexican ice cream shop by my house sells it in ice cream form