outlaw

[cinder relic]

Anyway

No more politics

Enough

[knotty needle]

subhuman from devil may cry 5

[fallow hinge]

on topic

[sharp hinge]

yea but it doesnt help calling someone a pussy and then muting them. just mute and move on.

[craggy barn]

let me bring us back on top ic

uncap outlaw

[shell fossil]

im more of a crass fan personally but subhumans has a few bangers womp womp

[craggy barn]

mirite!?

[cinder relic]

I don't care about being helpful

I care about calling them what they are

Losers

[fallow hinge]

so based fr

[sharp hinge]

i get it

[valid kindle]

I thought #outlaw was the offtopic of the rogue discord, just like #survival is on the hunter discord

[glass mortar]

we are offtopic quite a bit

[knotty needle]

uncap

[jolly geyser]

its all channels

[craggy barn]

sin and outlaw chat are both offtopic chats

[glass mortar]

but we keep it apol mostly

[fallow hinge]

survival ain't off topic they just have nothing to talk about

[glass mortar]

we just yap too much

[lime lake]

the secret is all rogue discord is offtopic

[stiff hawk]

On topic

[glass mortar]

100 apm ingame 100 apm out of game

what do u expect

[craggy barn]

i dont think sub is as offtopic as sin and law

[lime lake]

the only on topic channel is off topic

[late swallow]

still gutted what they did to survival season 1->2

[proven ocean]

💀 people are getting soft

[late swallow]

war crimes

[random stirrup]

i got u with the vault picture hookup: rogue 1

[glass mortar]

im so excited

[fallow hinge]

so true. I miss old pack leader

[glass mortar]

to finally get my first chest slot in my vault today

[craggy barn]

servers are up??

[glass mortar]

🥰

cant wait

[mighty pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/community-gif-23728528

[random stirrup]

ye

[glass mortar]

nice haste versa chest

[craggy barn]

yo

[stiff hawk]

Im still gutted what they did with BOmbs

[fallow hinge]

rip wildfire infusion

[glass mortar]

yea everytime i log on my surv i get sad

[stiff hawk]

WHERE ARE MY WILDFIRE INFUSIONS

[late swallow]

sent felt so good in season 1 though

[random stirrup]

rogue 2

[glass mortar]

new design peaked s1

its all been downhill since

they cooked too long

[lime lake]

no it didnt

go fuck yourself

[sharp hinge]

why in the world do you have 2 rogues

[glass mortar]

at least PL has flavor now... but the cost

[late swallow]

sent was really good in season 1 bel

you're being cringe

[fallow hinge]

tbh I do like current PL

I just prefer old

[lime lake]

it didnt feel as bad as it did for mm but sent felt like ass

[glass mortar]

i prefer old survival (s1)

new hero trees r fine

probably better then s1s

[late swallow]

m+ sent was perfect in s1

[knotty needle]

i still dont like sent i think it's boring as hell

[fallow hinge]

yeah gimme back flavour bombs

[glass mortar]

sent is the boring tree

[random stirrup]

one is sub/assa for raid prog and then my other is outlaw, mostly to not waste dinars/sparks

[stiff hawk]

I mean hitting a 4 Cleave Mongoose with Tset Proc feels good

[glass mortar]

but its effective and inoffensive and has one of the best defensive nodes in the game

[stiff hawk]

but is too rare

[valid kindle]

current PL is pretty good

just make the KS talents not suck

and I'll be happy for raid

[glass mortar]

make KS and explosive buttons again

they brought back MB in the worst way imaginable

[fallow hinge]

tbf, MB hits like a truck now

[shell fossil]

myth gamba vest, is probs assa upgrade yipee(already got prio myth chest)

[fallow hinge]

I'm getting like 17mil crits

[glass mortar]

yea ok with ur tier set proc u get 1 time a minute

[fallow hinge]

I notice it more

[valid kindle]

I've hit 20mil on sprocket once, before the turbo boost

it's funny

[fallow hinge]

but I have a ton of haste from BM gear

[glass mortar]

and its not based on ur gameplay, its just rng

idk i find it very boring

MB came back to almost completely remove ES and KS from ur rotation

yay...

my procs

they are worthless

[fallow hinge]

true

[stiff hawk]

On Topic

btw

[glass mortar]

at least its wow now

[stiff hawk]

Ye true

[fallow hinge]

[knotty needle]

what MM needs is buff aimed shot damage by 10000% and then remove every other button they have

[glass mortar]

true my fantasy

[fallow hinge]

hell no

[lime lake]

real

[glass mortar]

u mean i opened from stealth, shot this guy in the head for a crit

and it didnt die?

[fallow hinge]

what MM needs is more black arrow procs

[glass mortar]

MM should 1 shot every target

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/360-no-scope-gif-178450535740154799

[glass mortar]

make aimed shot a 20s cast tho

only usable out of combat

[knotty needle]

hits Mythic Gallywix for 20% of his hp

just bring 5 of em

[glass mortar]

dark ranger MM is actually kinda a banger rn ngl

i find sentinel mm very boring

[keen belfry]

Should I do OAB on my rogue today guys

[fallow hinge]

I had a pull in workshop yesterday where I got like 7 BA procs and 3 LnL procs on the triple pull in the goo tunnel before second boss

37mil dps

40% of my bleak powder damage over the whole dungeon was from that pull

[glass mortar]

yea its fun

[sweet badge]

Man, the last two hours in here were quite something

[gaunt phoenix]

Bigots get banned

[long barn]

I did sub early in season. I might go back and try it. A lot of outlaw gear and fit nicely into sub

[sweet badge]

I am only used to sub chat

[knotty needle]

servers were down trade chatters had to go somewhere

[sweet badge]

I need some guy moderation in my MOBA

[long barn]

I have two 680 ilvl rogues also. Haha

[cinder relic]

I just have 0 tolerance for bigots, especially when they just dance around shit and be vague

Just a very annoying archetype of person

[fallow hinge]

ye

[cinder relic]

Extremely common online

[fallow hinge]

if you're gonna be a terrible person, at least stand by your terribleness

[sweet badge]

and then they come at you with the debate terms

[cinder relic]

Exactly

[fallow hinge]

show some damn conviction, ya know?

[sweet badge]

I almost fell off the chair

Too much dogwhistling going around anyways

[knotty needle]

eh i mean i have rogues upon rogues but they're all pvp characters
a wise man once said "WoW pvp is the same 300 people on 20 characters"

[covert kestrel]

Did they get the premium deluxe upgrade package to perma?? 🙏

[cinder relic]

yes

[sweet badge]

Maybe they let the door hit them on the way out

Or guy hit them with the door, not sure

[stiff hawk]

and now wait for the Reddit/X Post i got banned from Rogue Discord because of a "joke"

[late swallow]

oh shit the perma

[knotty needle]

cinema

[late swallow]

[fallow hinge]

just out of curiosity, was that a decision by the council of mods or did they slide into the dms with more nasty?

[cinder relic]

Above your pay grade

[fallow hinge]

fair

[late swallow]

read that as "gay parade"

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-hendry-randy-orton-wrestlemania-wrestlemania-41-wwe-gif-2313545077099761980

[frail veldt]

damn I just missed it

anyone we care about?

[fallow hinge]

I will headcanon it that they formed into one big superbigot and you banished them to the phantom zone

[stiff hawk]

No

[fallow hinge]

tbh so did I

I had to double take

[frail veldt]

fasho

bet they parse grey

[knotty needle]

evidently not

[stiff hawk]

They were not part of the Gang

[fallow hinge]

they were not on fleek sheesh 🧢

[keen belfry]

who got banned!

[frail veldt]

ah an "extra"

[knotty needle]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-drama-drama-argument-political-gif-24419538

[shell fossil]

blew in from uh somewhere else town

[covert kestrel]

You also missed somnius' art

[frail veldt]

LOL

jfc

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/theodoros-gif-19920606

[glass mortar]

dont let them lie to you mewo

that was zacs roid rage gym rat alt

that got permad

need to give him some time to calm down

[knotty needle]

what i was gonna say

[frail veldt]

hahahaha

[sweet badge]

would zac say something like intellectual dishonesty though?

[frail veldt]

wait did somnius's art trigger them?

[sweet badge]

especially on a roid rage?

[fallow hinge]

no, but gym rat alt zac would

[keen belfry]

mewo

[fallow hinge]

because you wouldn't expect regular zac to say it

so it's a good alibi

"that wasn't me, I wouldn't say that"

[frail veldt]

sup my wang

[fallow hinge]

dinner first

[frail veldt]

you're a dinner first

[safe pasture]

Do I get hero capo if I have crafted dagger for off hand ? Feel like it’s gota be troll to do

[keen belfry]

if you were awangawang, the arcane mage, and you are about to kill OAB toonight would you do it on awangawangaw, the outlaw rogue? he hasnt stepped foot into mythic

[frail veldt]

did I do it right?

[fallow hinge]

you did

[hidden bay]

anyone played enshroud and is it good?

[fallow hinge]

I'm so proud

[hidden bay]

i dont trust youtube reviewers

[frail veldt]

only if I thought I would parse well

[fallow hinge]

I might be proud all month, even

[glass mortar]

sim it but yea itll probably be an upgrade

not a huge one tho

[safe pasture]

Ty

[stiff hawk]

[covert kestrel]

No we had a nice calm gooning chat before things got dicey

[knotty needle]

which is weird normally if i want a gooning chat i just go into the pikaboo discord

[late swallow]

We fr went from goonposting to scriptureposting

[lime lake]

somnius does all the gooning for us here

[fallow hinge]

still waiting on the mixed fabrics one

[sweet badge]

I should maybe scroll up again to screenshot the scriptureposting, definitely a highlight

[keen belfry]

i kinda wanna yoink a HoCtuah and eventually a capo

[sweet badge]

especially in #outlaw, you are all beyond saving

[fallow hinge]

cuh we already knew that

we save ourselves

ain't no damsels in distress here

except me.

I'm in distress

[vale warren]

I say a prayer every time I ks

[vagrant saddle]

u r in outlaw

[sweet badge]

I took the wrong exit, I swear

[vagrant saddle]

one of us

[scenic hound]

any1 got a macro for fient so it does it when i press my moves?

[glass mortar]

do not do this

[stiff glade]

feint costs energy, so you'll starve to death

[vagrant saddle]

thats a horrible idea

[glass mortar]

feint is ogcd, has a rng cd, and costs energy. this will lead to you energy starving and not having feint when u want it quite often

[safe pasture]

#showtooltip hearthstone
/cast feint

/cast feint

/cast feint
Hope this helps

[glass mortar]

lmao it doesnt even have a healthstone in it

banger

[scenic hound]

even if its just to KS?

[fallow hinge]

And they said the perfect macro doesn't exist...

[glass mortar]

even to ks is bad

[stiff glade]

yeah, just get a good button for it

[glass mortar]

think about how u hit ur buttons

[stiff glade]

you'll press it a lot, but you don't want it when you don't need it

[vagrant saddle]

shift e and thank me later

[fallow hinge]

with my fingies and thumbs

[glass mortar]

are u pressing kspree 1 time the gcd it goes off? or are u pressing it 3-4 times as u try to get it to queue

[stiff hawk]

Feint is on X

[glass mortar]

unless ur pressing it 1 single time, feint will spend both charges everytime u use the macro

and 60 energy, and probably starve u and delay ur kspree

[stiff glade]

doesn't feint have an ICD?

[glass mortar]

of like 0.5s i think

whatever the built in for ogcd charges is

[stiff glade]

thought it was a global

[glass mortar]

so itll still likely go off once if u play the game like most outlaws

[stiff glade]

might still spend both tho I guess

[fallow hinge]

ur a global

[glass mortar]

dont think its a full gcd

hard to tell tho

0.5s vs 0.8s

[stiff glade]

[glass mortar]

and it doesnt show a gcd u know

[fallow hinge]

ur a gcd u know

@frail veldt that's how you master the usage of "ur a"

[fallen knot]

bind feint and sprint to every spell = you wont have to think about it

[scenic hound]

so really bad idea to macro it?

[glass mortar]

yes

[fallow hinge]

yes

[frail veldt]

ur a master usage of "ur a"

[fallow hinge]

the only idea worse is rerolling to balance

[safe pasture]

Ur a ur a gcd am i doing it right

[stiff hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-no-u-no-you-reverse-uno-uno-gif-22508660

[fallow hinge]

just to put it in perspective

[fallow hinge]

no

[frail veldt]

ur a ur a ur a gcd am I doing it right

[fallow hinge]

I am indeed

[mighty pivot]

don't share the forbidden sprint tech

[fallow hinge]

mewo did it right though

[frail veldt]

see

[safe pasture]

I think we are on to something

[frail veldt]

its that easy

im that easy

[fallow hinge]

you, me, mcflurry?

[frail veldt]

that makes 3

[fallow hinge]

I like an audience

and mcflurries don't kiss and tell

[stiff hawk]

You are a Smartie Mcflurry

[frail veldt]

Oh I thought mcflurry was somnius's nickname

[fallow hinge]

well ur a qt mcflurry

[glass mortar]

no soms nickname is mcfurry

easy enough to get confused tho

[copper radish]

Anyone get lucky with an elite vault today?

[fallow hinge]

nope

because my vault is tomorrow

and if I don't get the cauldron ring I will execute half my guild

we didn't reclear sprocket so we're extending on bandit instead, costing me the chance at a 1% upgrade and I'm pissed about it

[copper radish]

Praying for that mythic track tier over here

[glass mortar]

my vault has a haste vers chest for me just waiting to pick up

i dont need to open it yet

im already celebrating

[vivid vessel]

What did I miss

[stiff glade]

a lot

[vivid vessel]

Did ryuk finally get banned

[glass mortar]

how was the gym zac

[fallow hinge]

no

[mighty pivot]

not yet

[glass mortar]

u got a little unhinged in here

[shell fossil]

[fallow hinge]

other people did though

[glass mortar]

but its ok it was just an alt

[vivid vessel]

Ah unfortunate

I'm stuck at work

1 hour past time already

[copper radish]

Banned for what we got a new bug or something lol

[vivid vessel]

Boss guy keeping me

What do

[covert kestrel]

Zacs back playing ignorant after his gymrat alt got banned, classic

[glass mortar]

outlaws ST is good

defeat the boss?

we r great at solo

[lime lake]

gym zac is a different breed

[fallow hinge]

better than being a different bread

[stiff hawk]

or a different Brat

[late swallow]

BRRRRRAP

[glass mortar]

hes burping right

.... right

[fallow hinge]

bratty is something I don't get. Imagine getting excited about the idea that other people find you annoying

[glass mortar]

some people r into that

[fallow hinge]

I know

but I don't get it

[glass mortar]

i think being punished is part of it so, you need to do behavior to get u punished

i guess its like having a kid without the 18 year commitement idk

[fallow hinge]

... fair

[glass mortar]

i dont see the attraction either

https://tenor.com/view/log-lady-twin-peaks-my-log-does-not-judge-funny-gif-3560754

[fallow hinge]

ha

imagine having just a hunk of wood that squints at people in judgement

[mighty pivot]

you think someone wood do that?

[alpine valve]

Would you buy the Geargrinder's Spare Keys or the gally weapon?

[lime lake]

i'd buy a new pair of boots

[bright crane]

What are THOSE

[alpine valve]

🫠

[fallow hinge]

absolutely. takes all sorts to make a world

[shell fossil]

craft 681 mh, it's free

[lime lake]

no

[mighty pivot]

honey, this transmog is -10% dps

[glass mortar]

no reason to take a herioc gally weapon i assume thats what u mean

the item is really only good in raid, not worn in m+ in the top setups

and a crafted weapon is just better mh anyway

[shell fossil]

lack of headmog is worst part also

[vivid vessel]

What did he do lol

[thorny spruce]

If you aren’t clearing mythic raid. You are better off just using main hand crafted and cudgel offhand. Then swap to the heroic mugz weapon for bosses if that’s the min max you want to do. Regardless heroic gally weapon isn’t gonna beat anything else

[glass mortar]

zac u never answered my question

im in on mythic mugzee rekill tonight

what do i need to watch for with kspree

uve found all the funny things

its only our 2nd rekill so i have a much lower margin for error before my rl bans kspree then u probably did

[torpid lynx]

Send it

[glass mortar]

dont press when bombs spawning, dont press during frontal

cant vanish frontal either

can u press during intermission spin?

[random stirrup]

unrelated to ks but if you vanish with a spike on you it might disappear

do not be baited it will still go off and kill you

[glass mortar]

oh lord ok good to know

[random stirrup]

[gaunt phoenix]

he decided to challenge moderation action against bigotry

[vivid vessel]

I see

[glass mortar]

bro thats actually so troll

ur projectile also despawned???

that would 100% bait me

[vivid vessel]

Zac's have an history against moderations it seems

[gaunt phoenix]

true

[random stirrup]

ye the mark above my head the spear everything

[fallow hinge]

used a banned word at an unfortunate timing which lead to a mute

[gaunt phoenix]

nah

[glass mortar]

i mean lets be real he was heading to a mute regardless

[fallow hinge]

then doubled down on it

[covert kestrel]

France*

[glass mortar]

@vivid vessel please, ludacris is my rl i ant fail him

i need the tech

[gaunt phoenix]

[glass mortar]

wait do u have a stream vod of u playing mugzee rekill

[hot olive]

he played raid yesterday

[glass mortar]

oooo nice

[hot olive]

so vod shuled be there in twitch

[vivid vessel]

What

Oh mugzee

I mean nothing special

Just don't ks

When you would die

Or trigger bomba

Gamble a bit

[hot olive]

feint+pray+ks

[violet ferry]

[glass mortar]

when i would trigger a bomb

[sharp hinge]

trashmaster EZ choice

[glass mortar]

so they do blow up if u kspree and they r nearby right

gotta wait for boss to move

[stiff glade]

wait for your tank to pop them

[lime lake]

pop them all with killing spree and yell at healer if you wipe

[violet ferry]

Trashmaster, eh? Least I'll go Heroic > Mythic on that slot

[stiff glade]

also, make sure you KS at least a couple of times with a gaol or a soak or something to freak your rl off a bit

in time to be where you need to be ofc

[green wing]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[rotund zodiac]

shit vault again

[covert kestrel]

Time to buzz down those enemies!!!

https://tenor.com/view/will-arnett-bees-gif-8190097

[violet ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bees-deltora-quest-bee-meme-deltora-quest-gif-21153737

[vivid vessel]

Yes

[vivid vessel]

Boss doesn't move unless it's P2

And even then it's only the last 2

[glass mortar]

o i c

[vivid vessel]

You just don't ks with bombs out

[rotund zodiac]

it's that good? heard it bad something something

[glass mortar]

can u kspree during his spinny gun intermission

it doesnt do piss on herioc but maybe on mythic it hurts

[vivid vessel]

Well

It won't kill you trough stagger

[glass mortar]

....

[vivid vessel]

With feint you can tank a tick natty

[glass mortar]

the fact that u are caveating this already scares me

maybe 1-2 cp kspree with feint angle then

during intermission

[vivid vessel]

The issue are the stun puddles

[glass mortar]

tru

[vivid vessel]

But if you go forward generally

You can gamble your way out

And that's why you play cheat death right

[glass mortar]

TRUE@

[vivid vessel]

But ye low cp ks are safer

[glass mortar]

if im not proccing that at least once a fight

im not truly minmaxing law this season

[vivid vessel]

Don't ks during frontal aswell

I think you get a bad debuff

[glass mortar]

ye ok

[covert kestrel]

Nah I think it's bad or at least feels bad

But funny tho

[vivid vessel]

There is 2 frontals during the fight or something tho so

[keen belfry]

how would i play uh

OAB as outlaw

anythign bad

[fluid iron]

as koffing would say "a one way trip to Bahamas"

[glass mortar]

oh no

a class discord has fallen to the sin of pride

i have a feeling two members potentially are going to not be happy about that... assuming they are in multiple discords

[magic shuttle]

For prog try fatebound kir

Good damage and feels very safe

[glass mortar]

i dont wanna fatebound

that thing suks

its rekill anyway

only prog for me

[magic shuttle]

Fair enough

[vivid vessel]

Depends

Are you progging

Cause I'm ngl I do not care one bit about baits on reclears

[glass mortar]

OAB felt easier just dont bait coins bad and in final burn its a little weird

[vivid vessel]

What happens isn't on me

[magic shuttle]

Ks on oab felt fine

[fallow hinge]

Could be worse ;)

[glass mortar]

ok but isnt that just always shaman discord

[stiff glade]

prettu much don't get stunned by coins, but stay close to the lines so you get the buff ofc. Look out for the coils in last phase so you don't KS into them

[fallow hinge]

the wa disc has the full flag on atm too, which is cool

[glass mortar]

looks the same to me

[keen belfry]

killing tn and then progging muzee, still not even sure im gonna play rogue (ive maged all of raid)

[fallow hinge]

... touché

[vivid vessel]

Ah

Well if you are killing tonight

How are you asking

Now

[fluid iron]

was that the easter earthshrine one?

[glass mortar]

cause hes a mage player rping as an outlaw rogue

[fluid iron]

xD

[glass mortar]

😠

[keen belfry]

im rogue player cospalying mage

[fallow hinge]

it's the current one

[fluid iron]

no?

[mighty pivot]

it's not the current one

[fallow hinge]

O.o

why has mine not updated

[stiff glade]

mine is still uwu bunny

[fluid iron]

gatekept

get fucked

[fallow hinge]

oh, I needed to click on the server for it to update

[stiff glade]

wtf I want the pride one

[fallow hinge]

click the server

it'll update

[stiff glade]

oh, that fixed it

nice

[fallow hinge]

so pride month uncancelled and kozarm month cancelled?

win

[fallow hinge]

If only

[fluid iron]

the way my sleep is right now, one could say im getting fucked on the regular

[covert kestrel]

https://preview.redd.it/in-the-midst-of-its-so-over-i-found-there-was-within-me-an-v0-lpsxnfcdatpc1.png?width=1144&format=png&auto=webp&s=6fc017ac753e6b44ee55b6dc9beb39544af21447

[fallow hinge]

maybe try a bed, instead of a bed of pointy objects

[fallow hinge]

me when I play survival despite my rl insisting I play bm/mm

[late swallow]

trashmaster is rlly good for sub and outlaw both

[covert kestrel]

Me whenever I convince myself I'm gonna stick to an alt this patch and then come crawling back to outlaw each time

[fallow hinge]

me whenever I try to play not a hunter

[knotty needle]

isnt bm hunter the most played spec?

[fallow hinge]

It's my curse to bear

[fallow hinge]

it's that or ret

[knotty needle]

i would imagine it's pretty close

[fallow hinge]

probably

[knotty needle]

maybe some servers most bm others most ret

[fallow hinge]

but I prefer MM and Surv over BM where I can

though I do enjoy all 3 specs a lot

[mighty pivot]

is there... more?

[violet ferry]

Pride month canceled
We Prude Month now

[vivid vessel]

wtd did they break youtube adblockers again

nvm they were disabled so the videos wouldnt load

re enabling the adblockers fixed it

ty chat

[crystal socket]

fourth time getting this, this season thanks blizz

[leaden folio]

dont use google chrome

just go firefox

[fallow hinge]

or opera gx

I know it's chromium but it's still better than chrome

[violet ferry]

is opera gx decent for system resources? Or does it gobble them up like Chrome does too?

[fallow hinge]

it's incredible for system resources

it's not greedy with them

I have uh

[sharp hinge]

be careful, youtube is banning accounts with ad blockers enabled lol

[violet ferry]

way better than

[vivid vessel]

i doubt they can do that

[fallow hinge]

... 53 tabs open

and it's using 1.4gb

[violet ferry]

That's real good

[sharp hinge]

i think they have, but honestly who knows. im sure there are many

[fallow hinge]

11 of those are youtube, netflix, disney+ and prime

and 6 of them are minecraft wiki (which is hilariously ram hungry)

[violet ferry]

you know what else is ram hungry?

[sharp hinge]

is your pc old? thats like nothing

[fallow hinge]

relatively new

[sharp hinge]

what specs

[fallow hinge]

not top of the line

[latent oak]

problem with gx is that they tried to make it look like a GaM3r browser

and im an aesthetics whore

[fallow hinge]

you can customise it with mods

tons of aesthetics options

[latent oak]

eventually i'll have to swap to it or firefox

but chrome is managable atm ennit

[fallow hinge]

firefox is still going insanely strong atm though

[latent oak]

ya not being chromium goes hard

[fallow hinge]

huge recommend firefox for anything work related

[vale warren]

Fwiw microsoft edge ran better on my old toaster

[latent oak]

edge isnt even bad anymore is it?

[fallow hinge]

Edge is surprisingly well optimised now

nah it's really caught up

not the best option on the market, but worth using as more than just a pdf viewer and chrome/ff/opera installer

[vale warren]

It's basically just chrome

[violet ferry]

but which browser is highest dps?

[sharp hinge]

you gotta go into bios and enable XMP, 1599 MHz for RAM sounds pretty unusual

my ram is ddr5 and it runs at 6400MHz

[torpid lynx]

Netscape Navigator

[latent oak]

og ipod touch safari

[loud blaze]

At what point do we replace Cyrce's Circlet?

[dawn talon]

just close your browser man

but anyway the lowest ram consumption will usually be brave and the lowest cpu consumption will usually be firefox or edge

[glass mortar]

658+ high vers rings generally

or higher ilvl crit/haste/vers mix

just trust sims

if the ring isnt greatly improving ur stats it probably wont replace it

[mellow depot]

echoing still bugged?

[loud blaze]

Thank you!

[glass mortar]

yes

[sharp hinge]

can i replace circlet ring with jastors

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/i9KRZU44qZgcbVJVqSAEqw

jastors is a 31k dps decrease for me

[copper radish]

socket day from vault /cry

[clear tulip]

[red zinc]

only good in raid keep in mind

if you take it for that its nice though

[keen belfry]

says you timm y!

[red zinc]

thats just factually true

[keen belfry]

yeah but

mhm

[fallow hinge]

I'll look into that, thanks

[novel timber]

for keys is pacemaker better or mega magnet

[sharp hinge]

magnet

magnet sims higher all around for me

[reef forge]

would it not be your swap for boss weapon in m+ though?

[red zinc]

cant swap that weapon

in m+

[fallow hinge]

can't swap cantrips in m+

[red zinc]

specifically blacklisted

[red zinc]

well capo does work

[reef forge]

sad times

[red zinc]

its some bs

[fallow hinge]

wait fr

lel

[novel timber]

that's a

[hot olive]

worth using nightfall wep on TOP first boss?

or just big aoe pulls

[red zinc]

no

reset doesnt work on boss combat

[mighty pivot]

new server icon

[sharp hinge]

Romanian flag?

[hot olive]

ahh ok

[fallow hinge]

I approve of the new icon

[sharp hinge]

isnt it Mens Mental Health month

[magic shuttle]

when your goon cage dps is too high

[next wedge]

what cds

[supple crescent]

Guys I started an outlaw but havent timed +12s and done mythic raids - what should I pick for dinars from hero-track stuff?

[next wedge]

heroic capo

[mighty pivot]

moldovan but the emblem is hidden

[fallow hinge]

that's november

[sharp hinge]

Are you sure

[fallow hinge]

yup

it's tied into the stress awareness stuff iirc

[sharp hinge]

google says june

[fallow hinge]

might also be where Movember came from

you US?

Might be regional? EU is defo november

[sharp hinge]

Ah I think US is June then

[fallow hinge]

interesting

Men's health month is June, Men's mental health month is November, it seems?

[copper radish]

kul tiran S tier on mycomancer cavern when u gotta swim

[granite crystal]

Hi I've played outlaw as an ALT for quite sometime. I am having a hard time understanding how to deal damage. I see that ll my damage is from Blade furry, i thought it used to be between the eyes. I'm 665 and my damage is so sub-par and I have no clue how to improve

[glass mortar]

blade flurry is just an echo of ur st attacks

[mighty pivot]

if you cleave BF will be top by far

[glass mortar]

it doesnt change the actual breakdown it just shrinks it as it takes up more, so BtE is still like 25% of ur damage

!commonerrors

[ornate heath]

Common errors for Outlaw -> see this answer in the FAQ.

[glass mortar]

i highly recommend reading thru the FaQ to make sure ur doing the core parts of the rotation right and not messing up

[sharp hinge]

Aka June is Chad month in US

[gloomy coral]

Every month is chad month in the us 🦅 ✊ 🇺🇸

Or thats what I hear

[main shadow]

Press gun button in subter window

[lime lake]

[slate plaza]

is there a quest for dinar catchupo\

[gaunt phoenix]

No

[slate plaza]

i missed two weeks on accident

[gloomy coral]

Unluck

Go next

[autumn idol]

[glass mortar]

p e r m a n e n t l y behind

p e r m a n e n t l y

[gaunt phoenix]

nice

[slate plaza]

cooked

[copper radish]

stuck at 676 ilvl and cant get any upgrades until next vault. time to mega prayer for some mythic track tier next week lmao

[glass mortar]

i get mythic capo tonight with my dinar if all goes well

finally, the only big upgrade left in the season

[copper radish]

684 capo sounds hot

[glass mortar]

1.1% from it

[copper radish]

damn hoooooyge

[glass mortar]

then another 0.9% if i can ever get a real OAB ring

then all thats left is 0.2 and 0.3%s on some piss gear optimizing secondaries

[tight egret]

I didn't turn in my quest last week. Think I'm busted now.

[glass mortar]

p e r m a

yes theres no catchup

will take an extra week to get all ur dinar

it should keep going till u have them all tho ur not gunna be 1 short

just a week late

[tight egret]

Meh. I only really need capo and thugline mythic and we're still rigging OAB

[sharp hinge]

do we need to be 675 ilvl to unlock mythic track dinars? i was reading something that said 3k io might do the same?

[normal forge]

what to reroll for s3?

[tight egret]

Progging

[glass mortar]

you need to kill mythic bosses to unlock their items on the dinar vendor

[normal forge]

thats sad

[glass mortar]

for the m+ trinkets u need the resilient 12s achievement

[hasty warren]

yo bois

[glass mortar]

so all 12s timed

[sharp hinge]

okay what about pacemaker, i killed floodgate on a 14, but no myth track pace

[copper radish]

oh thats fire bout to get a mythic whislte since i dony mythic raid

[glass mortar]

.

[copper radish]

just went i thought i couldnt get another upgrade till next tuesday bout to deck a 684 trinket out

[sharp hinge]

ah okay, i do have the resilent 12s achievement

[glass mortar]

should be able to buy it then

[sharp hinge]

i havent checked since i got it

ty

[glass mortar]

oh nice the logo got even cooler

man if blizzard did an actual enchant skin like that

people would rage, would be sick tho

goldshire ERPers would have a field day

[covert kestrel]

dank icon

[copper radish]

so i have a 671 geargrinder and pacemaker. would u get the 684 pacemaker to upgrade that or the 684 whistle to replace it? sims say whislte but i feel like every1 is using the pacemaker

[gaunt phoenix]

Pacemaker is overrated unless you multispec

people over value stat trinkets

but they're about the same anyway so w.e

[copper radish]

bout to let the whistle rip then. sims telling me +30k for keys over 671 pacemaker and 15k over the 684 pacemaker

[gaunt phoenix]

30k out of like 4.5 million? huge

[copper radish]

1.4% inc we going places

oh RIP that was patchwerk. time to run the dungeon slice lol

[obsidian walrus]

is there a roll the bones WA?

[covert kestrel]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[covert kestrel]

rtb buffs tracker

[gaunt phoenix]

it doesnt tell you how to roll, at least not directly

[visual moat]

how good is this for a 3m fight vs a regular offhand?

[copper radish]

is there something wrong with having 2 crafted rings lmao

[glass mortar]

sim it and change fight duration

but id imagine almost identical

the effect is extremely underwhelming but also not budgeted. its a full stat weapon

so if u need the haste, its fine

[glass mortar]

never got a good OaB ring = unlucky

unlucky = dont play the gamba spec gg

(thats me also)

[covert kestrel]

my 658 high vers ring is getting tired boss

[glass mortar]

🙂

it could be worse

i finally swapped from 658 pvp neck to a crafted neck last week

had to recraft 3 items to fit the new stats into my budget

[sharp hinge]

druids discord logo changed, and same with evokers. Warrior didnt change and mage didnt either

[glass mortar]

because i mostly traded vers for crit, i gained 0.3% sim dps

almost 2 ilvls of upgrade btw

[copper radish]

tf the OAB ring lol

[glass mortar]

one armed bandit

its a ring with like 85% stat budget of one stat, 15% the other

[copper radish]

havent got one

[glass mortar]

so if u can get it to drop vers haste or vers crit

its massive

[copper radish]

got a crafte crit/verse and haste/verse ring

[glass mortar]

if not ur stuck with bin crafted rings

yea rings suck

thank god we have ToP adding 4 mastery rings to the loot table this season

its a strugglebus for those good scaling classes

getting good gear

[copper radish]

21.47 crit 19.91 haste and 32 verse aent too bad with 2 crafted rings lol

[glass mortar]

[covert kestrel]

are those percentages or stat weight

[copper radish]

just my percents

[sour vault]

so were using twilight devastation from visions?

[glass mortar]

if u want

[covert kestrel]

if you enjoy the added risk of pulling more

[latent oak]

zac in a top group with an assa and a sub

[covert kestrel]

i wonder whos gonna TOP the meters

HAHAHAHAAHHA

[copper radish]

always enjoy that

[sharp hinge]

the black beam of death is bis

[sharp hinge]

its never pulled and i cant say ive seen it pull anything this season

[copper radish]

its come close for me but always dies out in time

[sour vault]

I went with gushing wounds instead cause im a chicken

[latent oak]

boots are big haste for ur crusade ryu

take boots move craft to cloak

ezpz

ya it will

but boots will also have more vers on them than crafted

ez to sim it anyways bruv

check the catalyst version

its big vers small haste

[warm remnant]

is hotline bad for m+?

[late swallow]

trinket spread is super close this tier ngl

just sim yourself

[warm remnant]

yeah ive simme but its legit +/- 0.05 or atleast damn near

[glass mortar]

yes its bad

[civic void]

Kinda, you can't weapon swap with it

[glass mortar]

it makes cudgel not work

if u ever have one of the npcs spawned when u vanish it keeps u from resetting it

[warm remnant]

but i was thinking if it has better value for st or prio damage or such

ah ty

[glass mortar]

raid trinket

4 raid

[copper radish]

677 for the week now time to wait till tuesday to hopefully get another ilvl lol

[warm remnant]

u say raid trinket for raid like these 2 are not my only other options lol

[glass mortar]

i meant its 4raid only basically

those are fine

like som said trinkets are all pretty close

u can pick the ones u like basically

just that one breaks cudgel in keys

so not worth using outside raid

[clear tulip]

wait is this why some M+ pulls im not seeing the glorious purple explosions when i vanish

[glass mortar]

that or u forgot to weaponswap but yea

the npcs have decent uptime

[clear tulip]

oh dang. guess i switch it for pacemaker for my giga hard M+ content of weekly 10s or 12s

[vivid vessel]

the rh icon is nice

the first one

where it was the background

was the ugliest thing

i had ever seen

[vivid vessel]

why are your trinkets the wrong color

[warm remnant]

im colorblind

my friends complain about my healthpots aswell

[proven ocean]

princessholdt 💀

[warm remnant]

i barley see any difference idk

[vivid vessel]

ye ugliest health pots

i have ever seen buddy

[warm remnant]

good thing im not using them

yall dont fw the healthpot tinker?

[vivid vessel]

it can fail no ?

sounds kinda shit for a pot

[warm remnant]

ive never had it fail that i know off

[vivid vessel]

Reassuring

[warm remnant]

idk pots kind of sucks in general either way

not even 40 % of your health

[copper radish]

enhance, afflic, and outlaw key is fun asf

[winter nacelle]

sad my sims saying double on use is bis for me cus i have spare keys and magnet myth track and i have a pacemaker myth track in vault today

[hardy vault]

I’d still just play pacemaker + x

Fuck 2x on use

[copper radish]

in a 13 TOP... shaman has earth totem pet up on the last mini boss before Xav... tanks tells us to skip... shammy pulls and then healer leaves... god i love pugs lmao

[young prism]

I made it to 3.5k!!!

[warm remnant]

gz

[latent mason]

looking at Archon data and outlaw rogues seem to be cranking, are they really pumping like that being target capped with balde flurry?

[red zinc]

just stealing damage from other classes

aint real damage

[lime lake]

[young prism]

in my point of view only thing holding outlaw back from S tier is the utility disadvantage

like we have no cr bl aoe silence aoe stun etc

we only have blind

and I totally agree with @cinder relic 's article on wowhead

people are tend to play preferably easier class when compared to outlaw gameplay

like you have a skill that is trying to kill you everytime you press it and sadly entire build in centered arround that skill

[stuck patrol]

Bald furry

[young prism]

so people say : "why bother?"

[latent mason]

no idea what this means

Whats the article name? I would love to read it, looking for it on wowhead atm

[young prism]

let me find just a sec

[stuck patrol]

I'm just memeing on you misspelling "blade" in blade flurry lmao

[lime lake]

yeah get memed on idiot

[young prism]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/outlaw-rogue-mid-expansion-retrospective-hero-talents-current-issues-and-season-377020

[vivid vessel]

apparently ye

[latent mason]

Thank you

[keen belfry]

bald furry @latent mason

[stuck patrol]

Bald furry

[covert kestrel]

That's just all of #feral in dreamgrove

[stuck patrol]

Har stlye

[hidden bay]

my friend picked up outlaw HO

apparently not anyone can play that

[vivid vessel]

whispor is typing !

wtf

im about to get banned

no wae

dont do this dadyyyyy uwuuuuu

[hidden bay]

[late swallow]

[hybrid crown]

Disgustang

[patent lion]

!ban @runic bough some of your rhetoric and copypastas have been brought to our attention and some of this shit is just insane man what, the mute from solo was way too generous we ain't doin that

carry on with your day

happy pride :)

[gloomy coral]

[copper radish]

GG

[gloomy coral]

What did I miss

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-hyde-hyde-wars-theatre-of-the-aire-gif-23835420

[warm roost]

for KiR in m+ can you still do shenanigans to start the key with 4 or 5 buffs?

[vivid vessel]

holy mother of god

we are free

@gaunt phoenix

[dusty blaze]

Gulp

[patent lion]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[patent lion]

[hollow temple]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-fuck-dude-eric-cartman-south-park-s14e3-medicinal-fried-chicken-gif-22899960

[patent lion]

I'm helpful

(idk if any of that is outdated)

[gaunt phoenix]

3 bans in a day

[hollow temple]

3?

[copper radish]

add em to the "quite the cast of characters" hall of fame we have seen here lmaoooo

[patent lion]

3?

[stuck patrol]

What did bro even say to get banned three times in one day 😭

[patent lion]

[hollow temple]

thats like #7 i think

[gaunt phoenix]

Wuh oh

[patent lion]

I thought it was 8 but could've miscounted

[stuck patrol]

WHAT

[copper radish]

just for him or people in total lol

[lost slate]

https://tenor.com/view/it-just-keeps-going-up-sam-johnson-it-just-keeps-continuing-the-number-is-growing-it-is-increasing-gif-26097893

[hollow temple]

i may have lost count

[patent lion]

total today

[hollow temple]

total lol

[copper radish]

tf else have i missed today lmao

[fathom bramble]

changing the icon is just an advanced filtering technique to get rid of people that should be gone

[lime lake]

holy

the evil is vanquished

[stuck patrol]

Fr who TF cares if gay people exist, if you're that bothered by something that doesn't affect your straight ass then you're just being a hateful dumbass

[lost slate]

https://tenor.com/view/exactly-gif-3397598315635453816

[red zinc]

goat

[latent oak]

are we free?

[lime lake]

timmy about to start dancing at his computer

[copper radish]

finally got a miniature roulette wheel... but its champ with haste as the bigger stat RIP

[latent oak]

@late swallow sending my thoughts and prayers ur way during this troubling time

[stiff glade]

Was about damn time. Thank you Whispyr!

[patent lion]

it's like a honey pot but instead of bots it's self-reporting bigots

[gaunt phoenix]

Was there a ryu incident or was it just time

[patent lion]

actually insane efficiency

[vivid vessel]

he did his time

was time to go next

[red zinc]

no whispyr just saw the old copypastas

and ended it

[patent lion]

I didn't understand the extent of how insane this man was

[torpid fiber]

Yeah it goes crazy

[gaunt phoenix]

[late swallow]

Idk man that shit got untenable at the end

[vivid vessel]

you should have seen him cook the most garbage builds every couple off days

[gaunt phoenix]

Maybe we are too lax in here

[vivid vessel]

that was the worse for me

[lime lake]

this is actually why he was banned

[torpid fiber]

how are we going to know how much dps outlaw does with 39% haste now

[vivid vessel]

for sure

[lime lake]

the haste maxxing was too far

[vivid vessel]

i believe it

when dude started to try 40% haste builds

i knew

it was time

[stuck patrol]

Homophobic outlaw builds

[vivid vessel]

to end it

[patent lion]

I mean we don't ban for cooking garbage builds or else natural order would state ross would be gone 37 times over

but some of those pastas man

what the actual fuck

[vivid vessel]

i personally asked whyspyr to ban ryuk

[red zinc]

whispyr luther king jr

[vivid vessel]

for his garbo builds

[warm remnant]

god i cant fucking wait until tomorrow and have mythic mugzee wpn

[latent oak]

did he have more copypastas than the sa one

[sharp hinge]

why is your BTE overall super low, mines like second i want to say

[latent oak]

whenever i saw him post in bolded text my brain just blocked it out

[patent lion]

he had one about like killing spree genocide and then he signed one with ryu luther king jr or some shit idk bro needs help

[stiff glade]

It does become problematic when new people come in trying to learn what to play and see the builds and garbage 40% haste stuff, especially when presented almost like it's theorycrafting

[gaunt phoenix]

[latent oak]

lmao

[vivid vessel]

yes

i did tell him

numerous time

but he wouldnt listen

[hidden bay]

Mine second after bf, what you see here is a friend new to outlaw

[vivid vessel]

i had to invoke whispyr, whyspir saw the number of haste he was running

and it was an insta ban

dont thank me guys

[latent oak]

baseg

crazy that the blizz shareholders can get him banned even here

[stuck patrol]

So what if we cooked a 0 haste build tho

[civic void]

That one was one of his all time best ngl

[patent lion]

I mean honestly if people are cooking some stupid shit and won't listen to people telling them to stfu, legit just reach out to a mod or something to mute them for trolling/misinformation/whateverotherrule

[latent oak]

i heard that zac guy is running hoc in keys

[vivid vessel]

fr bro

cooked

[fathom bramble]

well he was definitely guilty of misinformation

[vivid vessel]

ban him

[red zinc]

zac is going to report me for misinformation every time i find a new cook and it slightly underperforms because he does more damage than me

[fathom bramble]

but I guess my default is to argue with people instead

[patent lion]

my default is to argue as well

[vivid vessel]

oik well

even i got tired

of arguing

with ryuk

[patent lion]

but like at some point you just hit the notalky button

[red zinc]

was it a perma

[latent oak]

the ravenholdt ryu saga is over

[red zinc]

i didnt even see

[cold jewel]

damn, who knew today would be the day

[vivid vessel]

ye

[cold jewel]

o7

[vivid vessel]

[stuck patrol]

I think there's a difference between spreading misinformation and suggesting hypothetical builds and expressing they think it might be good

[patent lion]

bans in ravenholdt are perma by default

[vale warren]

Ryuk banned for running too much haste

[vivid vessel]

o7

minute of silence for the king

[patent lion]

discord removed our ability to perma-mute

[vivid vessel]

he will be missed

[patent lion]

so it's either temp mute

or straight ban

[red zinc]

3/6/25

[hybrid crown]

This is like when the government silenced the person who made an engine that runs on water. Keeping the op haste builds to themselves (for legal reasons this was a joke)

[stuck patrol]

The discussion from those situations helps people have a more solid foundational understanding of the spec

[cold jewel]

pour one out for him

[vivid vessel]

remember this day !

[vivid vessel]

was it what ryuk was doing

[sharp hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-fawkes-v-for-vendetta-remember-gunpowder-gif-7877172

[patent lion]

I trust in the regular community to know the difference and report accordingly

[stuck patrol]

I have no idea, wasnt there

[covert kestrel]

Can I post a classic ryu copypasta that's not too unhinged in honor

[stuck patrol]

Just my 2 cents

[latent oak]

problem is that sometimes he spouts his bullshit when no one is about to refute it

[sharp hinge]

6/3/25*

[patent lion]

sure I guess

[glass mortar]

We have a very high threshold for bullshit in outlaw ngl

[vivid vessel]

he was perma yapping about random bullshit builds

and haste

and shit tho

at some point

[glass mortar]

I thought when Ryu started posting in the other spec discord channels

[vivid vessel]

its not just stupidity

[glass mortar]

It wouldn't be long

[vivid vessel]

its misionfrmation

[glass mortar]

[latent oak]

bro ryu was on an anti tier set crusade

for ages

[glass mortar]

Guy just never learns

[vivid vessel]

BRO

[glass mortar]

People like that r a bit wild to me

[vivid vessel]

remmeber when i spent days trying to convince him to craft his tier

[cinder relic]

Ryu would just say some stupid shit that was just wrong

and then be like "Oh really"

[glass mortar]

Yea

[red zinc]

ts like a funeral

[cinder relic]

Like he talked for months about the tier set "should be bte" but the fact that its on dispatch is literally an upside

[red zinc]

[covert kestrel]

Hi, my name is ryukage. I an ex-outlaw player. I still suffer from outlaw addiction. I'm currently in withdrawals. But the spec was destroyed by blizzard and hasn't been fixed yet. Meanwhile as it's broken it still receives nerfs. It's comical. I cannot return. I cannot endure another tww season 1. I can't endure another 1000 declines and little to no game time, on top of low damage reward for high apm.

-Ryukage
Ex-Outlaw

[cinder relic]

But he was convinced it was a downside

[vivid vessel]

Hi, my name is ryukage. I an ex-outlaw player. I still suffer from outlaw addiction. I'm currently in withdrawals. But the spec was destroyed by blizzard and hasn't been fixed yet. Meanwhile as it's broken it still receives nerfs. It's comical. I cannot return. I cannot endure another tww season 1. I can't endure another 1000 declines and little to no game time, on top of low damage reward for high apm.

-Ryukage
Ex-Outlaw

[sharp hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-peanut-diaper-peanut-butter-gif-16357803

zacs pfp

[latent mason]

where do you get Nightfall Curseblade's Cudgel ?

[glass mortar]

Idk I feel a little bad because for all the pushback he'd get there would be a bunch of people in here gassing him up