ornate heathBOT
Pre-key fuckery
RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks. RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not 
AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points. RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
BF into 
Stealth. AR into 
BtE.
red zinc
dawg theres so many factors that go into key dps
cant really tell you if youre good or bad based off that description
runic bough
4mil is decent but I'd say we should be doing 5mil+ at 15+ keys. That's what a lot of top outlaws are doing.
Also some of them get 5mil in lower keys its nuts
I ran a 8 last night for fun and carried so hard and still not get 5mil overall
fossil lintel
it's tyrannical only on lower than 10 this week
red zinc
ye you gotta get fort first for pad overalls
And the vers affix or orbs to pad even further
white marten
I did a 12 prio the other day and ended with 4.6m overall. Ilvl 671. also had a mage that did tank dmg.
fossil lintel
inviting mage pugs is crazy
white marten
Was the mages key 😭
I found out real quick that he just got carried to a 13 key
Cant wait for s3 tier reveal to find out it revolves around KS 🤣
2pc : Killing spree damage increased by 20%
4pc : Killing spree increases your blade flurry damage by 10% for 15 seconds.
ember fractal
dont really know what to do to make more dps , tried to respecc for KIR
but hate it
now i did 15 motherlorde and overall 344
pall was first 3.50 and dk second 3.46
red zinc
ye 80-81% aint great
definitely still doing a good chunk of stuff wrong
ill take a look at whole log after footy final cant do it on my phone
ember fractal
ok thanks , let me know if you can what should i do
sharp hinge
665 ilvl, how we doin
ember fractal
what key ?
ripe ibex
maybe killingspree isn’t so bad
i’ll play this any day to never have to play fate bound again
red zinc
Just compare your dps to logs of the same key instead of posting it here if you want to know how you’re doing
we aint got the info for you
sharp hinge
what key ?
13 floodgate
plush rose
Just a "short" question as i dont really get what the WoWhead Guide is telling me...
Im about to craft the main hand weapon on max level and getting any Myth Track Weapon from Vault/Raid anytime soon is less likely.
Should i use Ascension + Armor Banding or should i stick to 2x Elemental Focusing Lens?
red zinc
2x EFL
plain abyss
Just a "short" question as i dont really get what the WoWhead Guide is telling m...
id say sim it and check what will perform better, most players ive seen goes either elemental focusing lense x2 or duskthread
cinder relic
Efl for st dusk for aoe
plush rose
tyvm^^
deep falcon
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit 
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group 
Devlin
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer Ace refund sound trigger RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
vivid vessel
@fathom bramble https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxLYT-oM8RuCJTlCFHWtbkY6ZccLrLzXkC?si=4EFPO2-CEaQxflbK i wasnt focused so i kinda forgot to feint so its my bad but
2 ticks
but its like
weird af
thoughts ?
maybe its just details bug
fathom bramble
Looks normal to me
hybrid crown
I hate that boss as outlaw
fathom bramble
Ks absorbed the first hit and stagger bug took you out on the 2nd
hybrid crown
It feels safe sometimes but other times those circles reck you
I just 1 pt KS the whole fight unless the circles are despawned for a bit
fathom bramble
Or no details has your current life wrong on the bars
I wonder how they derive current life 🤔
Since the damage event is showing after the absorb maybe it confuses details
red zinc
details puts the ks and hit in the wrong order
But yeah current hp is weird idk
probably correct in logs
proven ocean
listening to these wow casters
is extremely painful
1 guy talking about blood beast procs with frost dk and then dratnos shows up saying u need 6 mins for last boss ToP
like
best part when dratnos said arcane mage missed the execute explosion at above 30% when their execute is 35% 
paper pumice
am I supposed to have 90%+ adrenaline rush uptime in keys? I am stuck at 80%
haughty wigeon
"people" (mage players) on the forums saying arcane isnt overtuned
nocturne folio
i have been avoiding any content that dratnos touches since shadowlands.
haughty wigeon
nocturne folio
and i started wow in shadowlands
valid kindle
listening to these wow casters
I remember one the other day when squish's team was still in talking about how "the rogue didn't have his CD ready"
said rogue was outlaw
proven ocean
literally everything i hear about them when they're talking about m+ is wrong
idk if its bait or they're completely clueless
red zinc
I mean they are paid to talk about the game and also be somewhat well spoken / well known
Finding someone that knows everything like that might be a lil hard
But maybe they should yap a bit less confidently
sullen walrus
some guides for outlaw rogue? and what's rune for helmet do u prefer?
sullen walrus
<#856897810536071208> is pretty good guide wise
can't find pin about helm enchant
indigo token
sullen walrus
thanks ❤️
red zinc
what key
reef forge
20 priory
red zinc
wait huh whats your character name
reef forge
rogussy
haughty wigeon
<:omegalul:585734084777476096> idk if its bait or they're completely clueless
high io streamers are weird
i feel like you know that more than me in dps spaces
proven ocean
LOOOOOOOL
the 22 theater
is absolutely crazy
thats the most echo shit i've ever seen in a while
strong wraith
What did they do
red zinc
pulled everything in first area before gorechop after the boss and snapped it to last boss
not sure how didnt pay attention
strong wraith
Watch them delete the key
torpid pasture
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit Zac's Group Devlin Combo Point Standalone Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer Ace refund sound trigger RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs) Unseen Blade tracker Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter KS Ticking damage taken
round dragon
Is the text here wrong or does the 2nd point in this talent do nothing?
torpid pasture
!macro
ornate heathBOT
Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.
paper pumice
First pull in floodgate is a nightmare imo
late swallow
civic void
Is the text here wrong or does the 2nd point in this talent do nothing?
Second point double the duration, iirc it goes from 13s to the 26s you see
round dragon
gotcha, yeah I just tested it and you're right. Also actually applying the changes made it look like this lol. Guess the text is just off
paper pumice
Do we lose alot of damage if we dont use KS on cd?
patent mirage
it depends , if you will die by using ks
" warning the rogue in your team is using ks "
" healer panik "
civic void
Do we lose alot of damage if we dont use KS on cd?
I don't remember the sims exactly but you most likely better off sending low cp ks than delaying it forever
toxic dust
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit Zac's Group Devlin Combo Point Standalone Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer Ace refund sound trigger RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs) Unseen Blade tracker Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter KS Ticking damage taken
paper pumice
do you press Blade flurry on CD even tho its active?
gaunt phoenix
do you press Blade flurry on CD even tho its active?
normally no, but the KIR build in keys uses the Deft Maneuvers talent which makes BF give combo points
so that build does build cps with bf in aoe
toxic dust
!ambush
ornate heathBOT
It is possible to use a macro to cast Ambush during Stealth/Audacity and Sinister Strike otherwise, instead of using the stealth bar:
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
*This is most useful to swap between HO and KIR builds without changing keybinds.
Stance swap delay is, for now, not an issue since we don't want to cast vanish into ambush anymore.
latent panther
Is there a process on this channel to request log reviews?
glass mortar
Do we lose alot of damage if we dont use KS on cd?
Yes
Generally better to send a low cp then delay kspree if it's gunna be for q couple finishers
It really adds up quickly
It generates so many of ur blades and has such a short cd
lone spear
grats
vivid vessel
naruto
vivid vessel
YE
vivid vessel
7 hehe
proven ocean
7!
vivid vessel
i never watched naruto !
proven ocean
is it ur first anime?!
proven ocean
ohoak
vivid vessel
nver wathced the big oens tho
likle
naruto
fairy tails
one piece
dragon balls
all these hsitters
glass mortar
u can skip fairy tell ngl
vivid vessel
never watched
glass mortar
all the others tho
vivid vessel
but naruto is cools
glass mortar
good to watch
proven ocean
ye skip fairy tail for sure
late swallow
Naruto is based
random stirrup
i never watched anime
glass mortar
people like to trash on naruto
vivid vessel
dragon "BALLS"
dragon these balls 
plain abyss
nver wathced the big oens tho
big recomend demon slayer and jujutsu kaisen
glass mortar
very unique universe tho
proven ocean
one piece is also bad, it becomes good later tho
random stirrup
when i was a kid everyone made fun of the weebs
proven ocean
at the end one piece becomes 100/10
random stirrup
too scary
late swallow
Naruto walked so every anime could run
glass mortar
very fun fights
vivid vessel
big recomend demon slayer and jujutsu kaisen
well i watched both these ones
glass mortar
Naruto walked so every anime could run
yea
vivid vessel
these aint part of the big ones
proven ocean
naruto is good early on
plain abyss
at the end one piece becomes 100/10
does take 3 years to get there tho
vivid vessel
all these are very specific imo
proven ocean
one piece becomes like
vivid vessel
very comercial type of anime ?
glass mortar
i mean yea naruto ended earlier, nothing has lasted as lone as OP
vivid vessel
idk how to explain
plain abyss
these aint part of the big ones
oh u mean long ones, thought u meant popular
proven ocean
does take 3 years to get there tho
ye
vivid vessel
both
glass mortar
OP is pretty legendary at this point
proven ocean
kinda annoying
late swallow
One piece is the worst out of the big three
glass mortar
on average id agree
late swallow
One piece legit worst animation style
glass mortar
but i think OP is peaking higher then any of the others ever peaked
late swallow
No cap
vivid vessel
they are the most popular but they also are made in a very peticular way
glass mortar
modern OP is so different
vivid vessel
to be popular
proven ocean
not rly modern op is rly good ye
vivid vessel
like its not the same shit as demon slayer and shit
late swallow
Bleach was a banger
late swallow
Thousand year blood war arc was bussin
glass mortar
bleach was weird
glass mortar
it felt closer to hunter x hunter power system but they just werent clever enough with it
late swallow
Arrancar arc was crazy
glass mortar
i need hunter x hunter to be off haitus already
this current arc is so absurd
every chapter is a short novel
proven ocean
marine fort > any chapter or arc of any anime of all time
way better than solo leveling
surpassed everything in the world of anime
thatshit
was
absolutely
nuts
like
holy fuck
leaden folio
proven ocean
its like fucking 10 bitches at once within 1 hole
plain abyss
bro stop glazing
plain abyss
its mediocre at best
plain abyss
hahahah jk i havent seen it
proven ocean
!
late swallow
Coldest mf out there
vivid vessel
haha !
plain abyss
all love bro
late swallow
Itachi the goat
vivid vessel
get mediocred noob !
vivid vessel
ok let me watch now
proven ocean
https://tenor.com/view/itachi-uchiha-gif-10402539326644316185
i hated him alot
vivid vessel
naruto
proven ocean
ngl
vivid vessel
guys
glass mortar
the anime is unironically better then the manga quite often
late swallow
Gravity falls goes hard
glass mortar
and it peaks insanely high
vivid vessel
no distraction please
plain abyss
imma rewatch naruto, been a while. might even get so attach i commit to BORITO
glass mortar
how many other mangas make it to 1000 chapters tho
proven ocean
late swallow
glass mortar
its kinda insane
most of the ones that have lasted as long only lasted because they are on break half the time and u get 1 chapter a year
glass mortar
zac is this endboss actually
crazy easy
my guild is gunna 1 week prog it literally
they went from p1 wipes to sub 30% wipes in 1 night on thursday
vivid vessel
easiest end boss
glass mortar
1 week endboss is insane
vivid vessel
its not even that
vivid vessel
the boss itself is realyl easy
glass mortar
ye
vivid vessel
but i think
its a very well made boss
very fun
it should have been tuned higher
everything shoud one shot or smth idk
cause the boss is fun
i love big hitbox also
banger
glass mortar
looks very forgiving yea
red zinc
resilient keys are so weirdge when im still progging man
one mistake even halfway through key and these mfs reset
glass mortar
i told my rl i dont even care about being in for rekills before other people i just want a mugzee kill so i can buy my fukin fist weapon
proven ocean
Bleach hell arc incoming
solo leveliong way better
golden girder
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit Zac's Group Devlin Combo Point Standalone Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer Ace refund sound trigger RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs) Unseen Blade tracker Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter KS Ticking damage taken
vivid vessel
@gaunt phoenix leveling
proven ocean
solo leveling is the craziest shit in a long ass time
proven ocean
did you watch @solo leveling @solo
or still not
ngl solo leveling is almost gta 5 kind of hype
late swallow
@realzz leveling
cinder relic
Gravity falls goes hard
When you realize gravity falls is 13 years old today
sullen walrus
do u have wa for ghostly strike cd?
vivid vessel
who
proven ocean
who
vivid vessel
its the blue sword icon
sullen walrus
maybe do u have
proven ocean
you xD
oh
ty for asking
its the blue sword icon
@vivid vessel are u gonna buy ps5 btw
or
for gta 65
6
?
proven ocean
ah
vivid vessel
and i wont watch anything related to it i htink
vivid vessel
ye
dawn talon
this is rockstar
proven ocean
enjoy waiting 3-4 years
zac isnt rich
vivid vessel
than 4
dawn talon
also gta 5 was legit
vivid vessel
??
plain abyss
zac isnt rich
i thought being the #1 rogue world paid hella nice
dawn talon
launch gta online
dawn talon
had NO security in place
proven ocean
i thought being the #1 rogue world paid hella nice
ye raider io sends 5000$ voucher every key u do once ur r1
vivid vessel
i doubt we will wait 4 years for gta 6 on pc
proven ocean
thats ps4
plain abyss
ye raider io sends 5000$ voucher every key u do once ur r1
as expected, why else would you push keys
vivid vessel
proven ocean
ah red dead game
vivid vessel
i know its hard to read in 2026
proven ocean
forgot thats a game
vivid vessel
yes
because comparing with gta 5 is stupid
game is like
20 year old
we must compare to red dead
it will be similar to how red dead released
not gta 5
proven ocean
yes and no
hype is way too big on gta 6
things could change
its the most hyped shit ever
more hyped than cyberpunk
'by a long ass hot
shot*
tbh
vivid vessel
it makes more money to have a delayed launch
proven ocean
i wont be surprised if they add it to pc
like insta
but isnt that a money loss
for them
vivid vessel
because pc player buy it twice
it is
no
the delayed release is good forr them
cause pc gamer will legit buy a console
and the game
to play it
then they buy it again on pc
its what happened for gta5
deft terrace
GTA is overated, it was just goated for it's time
proven ocean
GTA is overated, it was just goated for it's time
gta was goated till last year
since 2013
vivid vessel
GTA is overated, it was just goated for it's time
you are overatted buddy
proven ocean
ur crazy if u think gta wont light up
ngl im surprised that an online game like gta lived that long
deft terrace
sure it will but i don't really care for it since 5
vivid vessel
frfr
proven ocean
frfr
deft terrace
gta 5 was disappointing
vivid vessel
deft terrace
idk, are you guys GTA minigame and RP enjoyers or something
vivid vessel
no
proven ocean
yes
proven ocean
minigames in gta were insane
vivid vessel
while these games
proven ocean
so good
proven ocean
ye well
deft terrace
gta was sick and ahead of it's time, until i was no longer
deft terrace
things caught up by gta5
proven ocean
dont make me pop a big ass red bull and outyap the entire universe zac
its 4 am ok
give me a break
deft terrace
i don't think it's that controversial
proven ocean
i don't think it's that controversial
brother
did u see the ass physics
in the new game
or are u living under a rock
vivid vessel
FR FR
deft terrace
ite, i'm sold
proven ocean
i can't with 0 iq yappers
like
atleast yap about something that we can get convinced about
except
ur yap is like dog trying to eat some chewing gum
deft terrace
all i'm saying is lack of info about important stuff in a gta game is sus
i'm not hype
deft terrace
i just assume they're just going full multiplayer mode and neglecting the real game after gta5 reason for success
proven ocean
proven ocean
didnt have time for a rly good title today
kinda was tired when i woke up
tmrw good one i think
red zinc
18s got me messed up sometimes
youd really think that current title range keys would have people doing like at least 80% of the dps their class can do
vivid vessel
no 
atomic bolt
is there a specific way to use geargrinder so it hits everything?
indigo token
youd really think that current title range keys would have people doing like at ...
nah we still have people who dont kick the surveyor beams
frail veldt
youd really think that current title range keys would have people doing like at ...
people are bad at rotations man
its crazy
glass mortar
is there a specific way to use geargrinder so it hits everything?
as long as it hits at least 6 targets its damage is maxed
but it just shoots out in a straight line from u and explodes on first target hit
apparently for some people it sometimes hits terrain and explodes and does zero damage to stuff around it
i dont use it myself so i cant comment
it cant hit some bosses also
last boss rookery and last boss workshop
glass mortar
in p2 no
yes in p1
i think i stick with whistle magnet
seems like one of the top dungeon comps for HO
glass mortar
i never seen whistle miss
glass mortar
that would be weird considering its not a projectile that explodes as far as si know, it locks onto a target
glass mortar
it just splashes stuff around its target
paper pumice
!MACRO
ornate heathBOT
Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.
paper pumice
!ambush
ornate heathBOT
It is possible to use a macro to cast Ambush during Stealth/Audacity and Sinister Strike otherwise, instead of using the stealth bar:
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
*This is most useful to swap between HO and KIR builds without changing keybinds.
Stance swap delay is, for now, not an issue since we don't want to cast vanish into ambush anymore.
glass mortar
but maybe idk, i havent seen it miss yet. i will keep an eye out
i noticed i was getting like 40% uptime on my pacemaker some keys
because its proc cadence wouldnt match the pulls
its 50% in sims
having it proc right at the end of a pack is pretty bad if u dont immediatly pull something
50% of its uptime is u extending it
paper pumice
Do you guys use this macro? Isnt it enough to just have ambush on stealth bar instead of sinister and sinister outside stealth?
glass mortar
this macro is for if u dont use a stealth bar/use a universal bar set for ho and kir builds
so u dont need to change ur builder button constantly
pliant spire
boys and girls, what items do i embellish if i only want to play high m+ keys?
ive seen a lot of double focusing iris and double duskthread but also a few mixed builds
gaunt phoenix
It doesn't matter, they are both 1.2% of your dmg
vivid vessel
wtf stop spoiling
vivid vessel
i told you i was gonna watch it
proven ocean
u didnt watch????????????
vivid vessel
stop spoilling ! ! !!
manic ice
Is echoing void still bugged?
pliant spire
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit Zac's Group Devlin Combo Point Standalone Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer Ace refund sound trigger RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs) Unseen Blade tracker Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter KS Ticking damage taken
gaunt phoenix
Is echoing void still bugged?
Yes
manic ice
Thanks for the confirmation
latent panther
Question, do you care about the number of combo points when sending Killing spree, or is it more important to send coup/ ks on cd
is it worth holding on to for a couple more seconds just for a bigger KS/ coup?
gaunt phoenix
you use ks at normal cps usually. only time you send a low cp ks is if you need to avoid death, like on dfc 3rd boss or floodgate last boss
weak herald
What’s the better enchantment to head?
sullen walrus
guys, who playing with hekili?
vapid sundial
careful that word is dark magic around here
sullen walrus
careful that word is dark magic around here
i try to understand outlaw rogue, but it's so hard for new player
shell fossil
i played kir today by accident and also yesterday
i think i flubbed blade flurry a lot
covert kestrel
i try to understand outlaw rogue, but it's so hard for new player
“There are no shortcuts to any place worth going”
sullen walrus
“There are no shortcuts to any place worth going”
i've been playing outlaw rogue more than 2 weeks maybe
or 10 days
and i off hekili and try to uderstand
his rotation
and i choose kir build
peak dock
guys is anyone else having like a 1s lag in LoU?
shell fossil
hidden opportunity is more builder spender focused and is probably nicer to learn if you're just starting
less dungeon knowledge required to get good results
grim spear
what's the best way for an alt to get into the raid instance to obtain the augment rune?
azure stirrup
what's the best way for an alt to get into the raid instance to obtain the augme...
Story mode?
white marten
am i trippin or is aff lock a super fun spec? I dont get why nobody plays it.
Edit: says the guy who mains outlaw.
w/c
wintry solar
You're tripping
winged depot
What should i craft?
white marten
You're tripping
no way bro, i find it so fun lol! im just not used to ranged specs so not moving feels awkward ot me
not spamming a and d *
white marten
huge facts bro
covert kestrel
What should i craft?
What sims highest for you?
gaunt phoenix
Uhh you have a lot of sparks by now
You can craft basically every non tier and non tricket slot
mainhand has priority
queen pilot
Ugh. Still so squishy
queen pilot
Suresure. Then hows flying off the map still so expensive? Lol
15 years is a long time to forget to travel nekkid
gaunt phoenix
not really
the DR kicks in at 30% from rating (so 40% total) but we won't hit that
at that point crit has already lost so much value by virtue of not being 30% vers instead
eager rose
ty
frail veldt
am i trippin or is aff lock a super fun spec? I dont get why nobody plays it.
E...
Yeah a lot of people like it
But it's a lot of work
For not always as much reward
And lock suffers from the same thing mage does where the lock players usually just pick the highest performing spec for the least effort and abandon the others
runic bough
IM SO DONE WITH TROLOLSPREE
KILLED ME AGAIN
wish i could learn another spec in a day
hasty warren
yo pirates
daring cave
wish i could learn another spec in a day
Go warrior. Takes 10 minutes to learn.
runic bough
It was on my list
peak dock
may i ask is there a way to transmog 1H slow weapons as the way you can transmog dreadblades?? transmogging mh and oh at the same time even if oh is a dagger
frail veldt
Nope
peak dock
and why are we not complaining about this? xD
sharp hinge
missed a 13 rook by 4 seconds
tender wedge
honestly if you're doing season 1 dps you probably don't belong in a 13
but that does feel bad
i just missed a 13ToP because tank didn't get his count right
also a big feelsbad
vapid sundial
honestly if you're doing season 1 dps you probably don't belong in a 13
brother 13s arent anything special
lol
was doing 13s 12 weeks ago
well like 11 but yeah
tender wedge
brother 13s arent anything special
i didn't say they were?
but doing that low dps is going to put a strain on your timer in a 13 unless the other 3 dps are carrying a lot
tender wedge
gotta start somewhere
lol yeah so why start in a 13???
tender wedge
ok i kinda see your point
vapid sundial
if ur relatively geared at all you just ignore kicks and just plow through
and it doesnt matter
tender wedge
i mean this dude just linked a details that shows it literally DOES matter
tender wedge
Kind of a mean thing to say tbh
oh dude im not saying this about you lol, im talking about the monk
vapid sundial
yeah but i highly doubt dps was the only problem
tender wedge
sure - could be bad tank route, a few deaths
but 4s is absolutely an amount to miss by that could be explained by a guy doing ~1m dps less than you'd expect
man i gotta say i never expected "doing 2.2m dps in a +13 isn't good enough" would be a controversial statement
tender wedge
count wrong in a top??
yeah, tank took the portal up to kultharok at 97% 😦
frail veldt
Can you not get back down?
tender wedge
yeah but the closest mob left was a gasbag and we only had a bit over 1m left on the timer after last boss died
took 30s just to find something to kill, missed by like 10s
but we could have taken portal back before kultharok if he'd noticed / read chat
frail veldt
It happens, honestly routing is hard a lot of the time
Lot of responsibility esp in lower keys unless you're going out of your way to prep for a key
tender wedge
yeah i know, healer was spewing but im just like
bro i don't tank, i don't want that responsibility,
wintry solar
It's great
tender wedge
not gonna judge to harshly. wasn't the first and won't be the last time
random terrace
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit Zac's Group Devlin Combo Point Standalone Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer Ace refund sound trigger RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs) Unseen Blade tracker Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter KS Ticking damage taken
runic bough
!Petition Killingspree removal and the developer who created it to be fired and fined for $100,000.
tender wedge
killing spree was created like 15 years ago
stuck sparrow
not gonna judge to harshly. wasn't the first and won't be the last time
Seen alot of barely 2m pugs
in the 12/13 range lately
Gap kinda massive
stuck sparrow
my favorite is when i get picked for xav pvp
and i have cds and the other guy is a caster
people are not happy
when you run through their model to cancel their cast
tender wedge
i was watching a mate play in discord the other day
and i had the pleasure of watching the mage sheep him
tender wedge
i can only assume he thought the buff actually mattered
stuck sparrow
when i lock them on frost
tender wedge
that is funny with rogue interrupt being effectively free of gcd and resource
stuck sparrow
I mean alot of caster players who dont pvp
you can just run through threir character model
most dont turn their camera fast enough
too bad gouge and aoe blind are choice node
slim hare
lol i play enhance this season i don't even cut but i got to try that x)
stuck sparrow
that is funny with rogue interrupt being effectively free of gcd and resource
My favorite xav moment is still during sl on dh, kill warlock pet for demon buff
grim spear
Story mode?
coo!
frail veldt
!Petition Killingspree removal and the developer who created it to be fired and ...
ryu youre so silly lol
slim hare
ryu youre so silly lol
yeah that poor dev probably still have student debt x)
frail veldt
Yeah with how shitty blizzard pays
frail veldt
I mean
stuck sparrow
made it so we cant have nice things
frail veldt
cc immunity is a lil wild
slim hare
yeah cc immune is op in too many game
frail veldt
cant even disarm to stop bladestorm anymore
good thing warrior players are fucking apes
slim hare
true
stuck sparrow
Yeah i mean
frail veldt
lol these names
I had no idea these players used to be in tourneys
Ray(ilovemycat) and maldiva?
then Ray became just an rbger
then quit when blitz came out
stuck sparrow
I mean didnt maldiva compete for awhile
slim hare
do we have any news about ks ? like realzz said they were working on it back in late DF nothing new since ?
frail veldt
I mean didnt maldiva compete for awhile
idk ive only seen him as a streamer/r1 pusher not tourney player
tender wedge
i think we recently got an acknowledgement of it being an issue but no further info/plans
stuck sparrow
He tried to compete with meta
frail veldt
do we have any news about ks ? like realzz said they were working on it back in ...
its "on the radar"
stuck sparrow
then uhh
frail veldt
thats it
frail veldt
He tried to compete with meta
yeaaaaaah
meta is a lil insane
and maldiva is also insane
he got twitch banned
OH ALSO
maldiva was on an episode of catfish
LOL
stuck sparrow
Wait i think this was before your rbg time
frail veldt
cuz he was cyberbullying someone
slim hare
on the radar since DF X) i ll wait then thanks
stuck sparrow
abn puke stream
frail veldt
Wait i think this was before your rbg time
idk I started SL
stuck sparrow
he got twitch banned
A friend sent me this, a story in 2 pictures.
sharp hinge
honestly if you're doing season 1 dps you probably don't belong in a 13
yeah the monk was 3k io too rofl 677 ilvl
karmic fox
idk ive only seen him as a streamer/r1 pusher not tourney player
he is banned from AWC as far as i know
scenic hound
as a new rogue what should i spend my dinar on ? (no mythic bosses and no 12s)
tender wedge
mugzee knuckles probs
scenic hound
is that better than a 684 crafted?
tender wedge
No but it’s your best offhand for bosses (other than mythic version)
tender wedge
684 crafted is for main hand
scenic hound
i got the cudgel from nightfall
tender wedge
But yeah there’s really nothing like “house of cards” level good for outlaw
All our trinket options are fairly equally mediocre
scenic hound
ahh okay!, so u wouldnt spend it on any of them
tender wedge
Not unless mythic
But even then the “best” one (geargrinder keys) is off the first boss so
Feels bad to spend on that
Capo knuckles is really the only thing that’s noticeably better than any other item in that slot
And even then yes you want cudgel for keys
rain trout
Does enh benifit well or help well for the phys God comp?
lyric steeple
why do some people take improved wound poison for M+?
lyric steeple
I see thanks
lone nebula
!up
ornate heathBOT
plain abyss
is a 671 capos better than a crafted wep?
tranquil hemlock
hasty warren
is a 671 capos better than a crafted wep?
no
lyric steeple
is there way to see the damage taken by killing spree in details?
hasty warren
is there way to see the damage taken by killing spree in details?
healing
runic bough
So basically
It just wants me to put authority of depths on capo for single target
and thats another 3.5%
crazy
sage zodiac
I would like to ask how to maintain the ADR above 90% in M+. My build is KIR. In most cases, my M+ can only maintain about 81%.
runic bough
its harder when we have to use ks
takes up so much time away from adr
but they say it doesnt matter somehow
I donno
sage zodiac
In HO build, the ADR can be maintained at around 84-87%, so I am confused.
hasty warren
I would like to ask how to maintain the ADR above 90% in M+. My build is KIR. In...
do you prio vanish to maintain ADR ?
ripe ibex
I would like to ask how to maintain the ADR above 90% in M+. My build is KIR. In...
it’s just harder in general
less consistent cp generation
can easily have 95%+ in keys with either build though
sage zodiac
I cast as many KS as I can, I monitor the stacks of Hidden Blade and use Vanish after doing a "big" slash.
sage zodiac
can easily have 95%+ in keys with either build though
Do you mean, it is easy to maintain 95% ADR?
ripe ibex
Do you mean, it is easy to maintain 95% ADR?
well i should say both builds have the capability to reach that yes
sage zodiac
I would like to ask you, generally speaking, what is the ADR maintenance rate in M+? Can you give me some reference?
scenic hound
is zug zee hotline or keys better trinket to go with flood trinket for m+?
ripe ibex
is zug zee hotline or keys better trinket to go with flood trinket for m+?
i’d sim yourself but generally yeah mugzee trinket generally is worse in aoe
rotund zodiac
I would like to ask you, generally speaking, what is the ADR maintenance rate in...
Mine is usually 90%+
hasty warren
same
sage zodiac
Mine is usually 90%+
Would you like to share some tips?
ripe ibex
i think the act of simply just keeping up ar is not super complex
record your gameplay
watch it back make sure you are follow the apl
best way to learn
sage zodiac
Does this have anything to do with the number of M+ levels? Currently I can only play 11-12
ripe ibex
yeah maybe a little bit but there is still plenty to learn from keys in that level range
torpid pasture
would you use capos 658 over 681 crafted?
strong cargo
why do some people take improved wound poison for M+?
Some people take it to take improved slow talent on some dungeons. The only use of improved wound is on last pack brew, but it's not a huge thing
sage zodiac
Sometimes, when there is a good die, Vanish should not be used (unless it stacks 2 times)
civic void
Sometimes, when there is a good die, Vanish should not be used (unless it stacks...
No clue what you mean but vanish conditions don't depend on rtb buffs for trickster
runic bough
1 point take em by surprise
=
13% haste from 1 point
adding 2 points into it does nothing
@gaunt phoenix
new kir build?
civic void
Just sim it if you think it's good
runic bough
but it also increases our haste rating by 13%
civic void
Yes ? That's what the talent does, the second point however just increases duration
ripe ibex
that’s not how stats work in this game
runic bough
why does my haste jump to 39%
strong cargo
You gain 10% of your haste stat iirc, in your case that represents 13% haste
runic bough
ripe ibex
if you think the build is good you can just sim it
make a profile set that would have the correct haste for it and try it
i can’t see it being better but could be fun to try
quiet root
i mean i assume you'd be lowering haste on gear so you end up at 20%
quiet root
i still hate it but at least i stopped dying to it as often
tawny adder
You gain 10% of your haste stat iirc, in your case that represents 13% haste
Maybe I have a knot in my head, but if it gives him 10% of his stat, that would be around 1760 haste, which is never an increase of 13%?
but it has to have some sort of interaction with that, as I also gain more from the talent the higher my haste stat is
scenic hound
how come wowhead says to use eching void but everyone is using twilight dev?
quiet root
its because echoing void is bugged
craggy barn
^^
scenic hound
bugged?
quiet root
i think it's the proc rate that's lower than it's supposed to be? in any case, it does less dmg than intended
vale warren
Maybe I have a knot in my head, but if it gives him 10% of his stat, that would ...
26% haste means he's at 126% of base attack speed so 10% gives him another 12.6%
vale warren
i think it's the proc rate that's lower than it's supposed to be? in any case, i...
Yep
runic bough
simming now
will be nice if its not too much lower
shorter ks will be nicer
i hate that shit
quiet root
but are you just taking more haste in total? like not reconfiguring gear to have less haste on it to compensate?
tawny adder
26% haste means he's at 126% of base attack speed so 10% gives him another 12.6%
Ah yes, makes sense. Thank you! 126.74 * 1.1 = 139.42
quiet root
couldn't you just stack haste past 20% via gear/flask and play a normal build? or are you doing that AND this take em thing?
quiet root
what about playing HO, which just picks take em regardless?
runic bough
no because the 2nd point in Takem goes to waste
I just need the 1 point for the haste increase
quiet root
is it really a waste if it's already in the optimal HO build?
quiet root
isn't it basically up always anyway?
quiet root
i don't think that should be much of a concern, you only have to vanish once every 26 seconds to maintain it
surely that's no problem?
runic bough
it only last 25 seconds
with 2 point
another 10 seconds
with another point
kinda wasteful
15 seconds is pretty good already
quiet root
but if you're worried about uptime, HO already gets the full duration in its optimal build
while your kir build has 15s
surely the better rtb doesn't compensate for that
seems like you'd be more likely to lose the buff on kir?
quiet root
do you really have gs and pc and still have point left for take em? don't we already have to drop 1 point fth for it?
quiet root
idk it definitely sounds like you should just be playing HO if the plan is to stack haste
HO already benefits more from "overcapped" haste than KIR does
just for the energy
pliant wind
I go HO with cto and without GS, more funnier and simple, and overall dmg can be better
jaunty moat
How do you reduce RTB cd via slice and dice at the start of the dungeon ? People keep getting one cp but mine reduces to 0
autumn fiber
How do you reduce RTB cd via slice and dice at the start of the dungeon ? People...
It's a random chance to get combo points back. Get luckier.
chaining 1CP slice n dices with compass up 👌
next wedge
desert tendon
