outlaw

[runic bough]

Guys is ks removed yet? Any hotfix?

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-to-know-these-things-aqel-carson-are-you-the-one-s9e1-i-have-to-be-informed-gif-27420417

[cedar kernel]

gm brothers

[runic bough]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lion-king-pumbaa-oh-the-shame-shame-ashamed-gif-3954735

Gm Bac

What's the weather in china?

Its summer time on west coast usa

I'm so hawt today

[wintry solar]

I went outside and the air stuck to me

So humid

[runic bough]

Yeah

Feels like florida

https://tenor.com/view/frankt-gif-23053748

[dawn talon]

i think another thing is that with league esports the level of play is so high ur legit clueless as to why the decisionmaking is better so u just relate to the cool mechanical outplays

as a more casual viewer

[twin valley]

yo question from a dumbass here, is there any way to get ghostly strike to activate consistantly while spamming between the eyes. i have them macroed together but it will not activate ghostly until BtE either doesnt proc ace or it goes on full cd. Is there anyway for it to consistantly activate if macroed with BtE or am i SoL

[dawn talon]

but tgp plays like live keys for the most part (before they had 20% avoidance lmao)

so when they are legit

unkillable for 0 reason

it's rly jarring lol

[gaunt phoenix]

/cast ghostly strike /cast bte does work

only reason it would skip gs is energy

[fathom bramble]

make sure the macro is actually present on your stealth bar instead of only your main bar

[twin valley]

i think you are right and i might need to be shot

[wintry solar]

I'll be there in a minute

[twin valley]

yeah that might have been it i probably just missed it for some reason

apologies i am dumb

[gaunt phoenix]

i forgive you

[wintry solar]

Wanna hear something unforgivable?

[twin valley]

my mental capacity?

[wintry solar]

No no

This happened in a key

[twin valley]

hmmge?

[gaunt phoenix]

the suspense

[wintry solar]

One time, I was modifying an HO build and I had an extra talent point left. I couldn't for the life of me figure out where it was suppose to go because I had literally everything else I could've needed. So I said fuck it and put it in GSW cuz why not? Its my key and my rogue and I'll do what I want.
Well about half-way through the key, I noticed that my pistol shot/ambush proc ratio was really really off. Come to find out. I didn't have the actual Hidden Opportunity talented into.

[gaunt phoenix]

nice

[brave lagoon]

I'm not doing this shit ever again

I'm so bad

[twin valley]

that owns

[wintry solar]

Wdym, that looks like a good time

[brave lagoon]

rexxar the bane of my existence

[slow moon]

Hi all, new to outlaw, been playing Assassination forever. in wowhead, what would be the reason do use the Keep it rolling spec/ Cleave spec?

would the M+ spec be enough to learn and understand?

[cedar kernel]

idk my man i just stay at home

being a home guy, with the curtain closing i just like living in a bunker

[gaunt phoenix]

we have two builds, HO (hidden opportunity) and KIR (keep it rolling). and they both use the Trickster tree in keys/most raid bosses

the mythic+ build you are looking at is HO

both builds are really similar. the HO build is way easier and perfectly performant in all content. so yes it is enough

the KIR build can be slightly better in big pulls if you master it

the HO build is also easier to gear, it is a bit flexible with haste while KIR needs strictly ~19%

[slow moon]

thank you for the answer!

[vapid sundial]

i wish solo would master me

not sure why my mind went to him

[runic bough]

I'm the same especially during hot weather. I only come out when I have to interact with irl.

[cedar kernel]

yea its hot as the same

[runic bough]

I only open my windows during cold weather

[cedar kernel]

yea otherwise just open A/C

[runic bough]

Ye

[cedar kernel]

🤝

[runic bough]

https://tenor.com/view/not-for-you-mf-discord-only-die-agree-me-and-sudz-gif-6774887908221028099

If outlaw was a real person, what kind of body physique do u think we would have guys?

[cedar kernel]

Medium

[gaunt phoenix]

Twink

[runic bough]

Wut is a twink

[cedar kernel]

yea i thought i misunderstand the question

[wintry solar]

Here? Twink for sure, yeah.

[cedar kernel]

I working late~ cause im a singer

[rose iron]

guys im dumb and cant understand rotation, do i killing spree over dispatch?

[cedar kernel]

uh u KS when outside of Vanish and Coup isnt ready and u have more than 6+ CPs

[wintry solar]

5+

Though sometimes it best to send it on low CP on bosses

[barren lark]

Nightfall Curseblade's Cudgel still the choice if you dont have M mug's weapon?

for offhands

[cedar kernel]

5+ is for Stealth no?

6+ is out of Stealth right

[wintry solar]

Could be

I've never followed that rule personally

5+ has been the sweet spot for me

Because an ambush or pistol shot would overcap

[cedar kernel]

iirc the overcap isnt much serious

the top prio is to keep sending Finisher in High CPs

[gaunt phoenix]

for HO, it is 6cp normally or 5cp if subterfuge/audacity/opp is active

but yes, it is not a big deal to just slam ambush/ps at 5cp

[wintry solar]

Oh okay cool

The slight overcap irks me but it's whatever ig

[fathom bramble]

imagine if they brought back anticipation

HO can generate 9 combo points in 1 generator

[barren lark]

#bringbackuncappedoutlaw

[wintry solar]

I thought about that the other day actually

[fathom bramble]

max CP of 12 with a max spend of 7 would be so goofy

[wintry solar]

I'm so for it though

Tbh

[fathom bramble]

wonder if it would even beat deeper stratagem or not

if it was like a choicenode on the class tree or something

since that is what it use to compete with

[wintry solar]

Would be nice blp

[fathom bramble]

get to 12 cp before vanish and you get 2 tries to fish for crack

HO could fill you enough for 2 finishers as well

could be cool

[dawn talon]

dude

imagine the optimisations

HAHAHAH

[wintry solar]

It'd be nice to go back to 6cp

That way I don't have to press SS 5 times

And be drained of energy

I'd just press it 4 times and be drained of energy :)

[frank finch]

@glass mortar this you?

[cedar kernel]

weran is using a Mastery Hammer

[wintry solar]

Sometimes you take what you can get

[desert tendon]

bac

WHAT YOU UP TO

[glass mortar]

never be caught dead on a dwarf

bozo

[cedar kernel]

Going Labs for money

i am batman

[desert tendon]

wtf

borrow me some

WERAN

what you up to

[cedar kernel]

I believe Weran will never use a Mastery Hammer as outlaw

thats cursed

💀

[wintry solar]

Sometimes though

You just gotta take the L

[frank finch]

soon i posted tha screen he left the raid

sus

[cedar kernel]

we got better choice like uh taking the bronzed for Fist

escaped

[keen belfry]

i have blood dk, enh sham, aff lock, hpal, outlaw rogue in thjis 19 rook

[covert kestrel]

Chads

[keen belfry]

odds of being timed?

[covert kestrel]

Bring the player not the spec

[rose iron]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[frail veldt]

affi can pump tbh

if theyre good

I swear floodgate is actually an affi key

they do SO MUCH damage on big momma

and the twins

its insane

their low target cleave is nutty

[white marten]

ye aff pretty fun

i lowkey wish their taint ability had a shorter CDs that way we didnt have to tab target agonys, but otherwise theyre fun

legend says the mage is still trying to ramp. 🥲 12 Brew

[ornate gazelle]

yo anyone knows what's Woxtoxic's shdowmeld/stealth macro? it looked super reliable

[keen belfry]

why did my adr just have 22 secdon

[fathom bramble]

adrenaline rush occasionally has more duration than intended when refreshed

no one knows how to replicate it or exactly what the cause is afaik

[random stirrup]

I had it happen 3 times in a single key today

[white marten]

lucky

[keen belfry]

i twas 24 s4econds

[fathom bramble]

I had this once

[random stirrup]

im pretty sure one was right at the end of subterfuge

I have a feeling that is a way to trigger it

[shell fossil]

i just cast geargrinders spare keys out of stealth and it didn't break?

[white marten]

is it basically a cast sequence macro with shadowmeld into a stealth?

[cedar kernel]

i could see the name by susing

We are O tier not G tier my man

Outlaw Tier u see

[fathom bramble]

I think that's a C

[cedar kernel]

crap

[cedar kernel]

ah crap

oh btw gm Lokt

[fathom bramble]

gm

but also it's 9PM here

[royal ermine]

spare keys are so scuffed in general so who knows

[fathom bramble]

more contrast

[royal ermine]

just realized on thursday that the trinket can't even hit mythic gally at all even when he's in his mech unless there's adds near him it just misses every single time

[cedar kernel]

uh have a good night

[random stirrup]

[white plover]

Does anyone knowis there any why this macro does not work during M+ Dungeons to swap my offhand but does work outside of the dungeon or after the dungeon ends?

#showtooltip 17
/equipslot 17 Nightfall Curseblade's Cudgel
/equipslot 17 Gallywix's Iron Thumb

[gaunt phoenix]

gally weapon cannot be swapped

Blizz flags certain weapons to be unswappable, it is just gally weapon for us

[white plover]

thanks

[long barn]

Any rumors on 11.1.7 rogue stuff

[frank finch]

[covert kestrel]

[wintry solar]

This guy lol

[runic bough]

guys theres a download

any hotfixes?

[frank finch]

[cedar kernel]

where

[lyric steeple]

any class similar to rogue that is fast paced and constantly pressing buttons other than fury warrior (also dps)

and BM hunter as well^

[cedar kernel]

Enhance

if u want

[runic bough]

i had to download something for wow just now

just got home

no patch notes?

[cedar kernel]

CN server always later than others

[wintry solar]

It's dreadblades coming back

[cedar kernel]

so no clue ryukage

[wintry solar]

Bac!

Hello

https://tenor.com/view/hi-mods-and-staff-ily-gif-25934904

[cedar kernel]

hi popo

[wintry solar]

Speaking of dreadblades

Bac

Do you think they'll have it in legion remix?

[cedar kernel]

no clue mate

[wintry solar]

Well

It's midnight on a Friday night

And I'm bored as all hell

Slow night at work

[cedar kernel]

we are having festival tho, so theres a vacation

but i didnt find any works

so everyday for me is vacation

[prime umbra]

Anyone know how much haste rating 19% equals?

[runic bough]

i have 19% let me login

[hollow garnet]

Just making sure i'm not missing anything, but is it normal for a vers ring of equal ilvl (658) heavily outsim cyrces in dslice? I expected it to be good on both ends, not just st.

[prime umbra]

Thank you!

[prisma heron]

Do we get an onyx get as well for the crit dmg stacking?

[loud hazel]

yo

ppl

pistol procs restore energy?

[wintry solar]

They cost less energy

[past falcon]

first double outlaw floodgate at 18+ i think?

[barren lark]

nut

sexy HO users

[harsh forge]

based

fuck boomy arcane and unholy

[prisma heron]

What onyx gem should we be doing?

Or do we skip it since we don’t like mastery?

[runic bough]

oops wrong channel

can a mod put this in the damage channel plz

[frail veldt]

Normal

[frail veldt]

Get mastery vers

Or mastery haste if you need it

[hollow garnet]

It went back to cyrces when i simmed HO instead of KIR

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-silly-cat-cat-explode-yellow-cat-gif-12654556298327310612

[manic nova]

how many stacks are we using magnet

30?

[craggy barn]

any above 20

ofc save stacks for damage amps of there are any

but dont needa hold for 30 on trash packs

[wintry solar]

Hi everyone

[shy meteor]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[long barn]

Do we spread GS?

Buff it’s that long is it?

[rotund zodiac]

[latent jetty]

heya 🙂 when I want to sim Outlaw for M+, do I just use the "pre build: Dungeonslice" on RaidBots? 🙂 Or is it better to do something custom?

[runic bough]

Ghost Strike now flurries with Blade Flurry. Targets affected by Ghost Strike are now flurrying their flurry damage.

[wintry solar]

Just give Ghostly the Bursting Sores effect

Where the target explodes and hits other targets

When hit

[runic bough]

FUCK YOU KILLINGSPREE

+15 BRICKED BECAUSE KILLINGSPREE

targets me and killing spree on long ass active

miss bomb

ffs

make me look bad

[orchid oracle]

rip dream 😢

[runic bough]

im so ready to reroll again

[lyric steeple]

so how come echoing void is not good anymore?

[proven ocean]

Its bugged

[orchid oracle]

im trying to figure out why simplified faq recommends rerolling at 4 or less with HO, but the advanced says 3 or less (can sit on 4 even if from cto). anyone know the reason?

[sweet cloud]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[strong cargo]

If you want a simple rule, roll until 5 buff, if you want to min max you can keep your buffs if you have a 4th from cto and only roll 3 or less

[orchid oracle]

i see, but wouldnt a "reroll at 3 or less" be more simplified than at 4 or less, and also meet the minmax at the same time? or is there more behind that

[coral bobcat]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[sly robin]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-me-my-meat-frustrated-gif-14181933

when wox streams

[analog fog]

true

@vivid vessel thoughts ?

[vivid vessel]

REAL

[fallen knot]

did u tag me zac

[azure vortex]

lezgoooo

[fallen knot]

gz sir

[runic bough]

i donno im getting raged by ks again

so tired

of this shit

[wintry solar]

You could just like

Stop

You ever consider that?

[stuck patrol]

So I did a CBM and I noticed something weird on details

did a 3 mil flurry

which means I would have had to have done a 6 mil hit to make that flurry tick that high

but none of my abilities did 6 mil

???

There something funky with the mobs in the first room or something?

[hybrid crown]

If 2 target and trickster + pc it might have needed to be less than half the number you are thinking

Do you have pc

[stuck patrol]

oh duh pffft

Yeah I do, I'm dumb

[hybrid crown]

Heh that's a big ass bf proc lol

[stuck patrol]

It is, I was intrigued lmaoo

[wintry solar]

Eric

Rate my macro

[hybrid crown]

????

[wintry solar]

#showtooltip
/cast Vanish
/s I keep that mf thang ON ME

Your thought?

.>

[hybrid crown]

You could have it say that in /g too

[stuck patrol]

With how many times I vanish throughout a key, I'd probablyu report you for spam at some point LMAO

it's amusing at first glance tho

[wintry solar]

There's an addon called yarr and I macroed that to my adr

So everytime I press adr I yell some stupid pirate thing

[stuck patrol]

pffft nice

[wintry solar]

I will say

It def puts into perspective how often we press it

[hybrid crown]

Maybe macro KS to /yell HELP

Just in case

[wintry solar]

I'm partial to /yell Healer beware, you're in for a scare...

[crystal finch]

Hey folks, yet another dinar question 😦 Current setup is craft wep & hc capo/nightfall for weapons. Geargrinder and Wax Whistle hc for trinkets with magnet hc available as well. Looking for a dinar upgrade. Geargrinder myth seems nice but can always drop on farm. What would you recommend? I see people getting pace as their myth dinar but I'm not sure

[strong cargo]

What will you have access to ? If you won't get to myt mugzee, weapon from 2nd boss or trinkets can be an upgrade, you should sim and decide what to buy

If you kill first 4 bosses then you could buy geargrinder, weapon or magnet 🤷‍♂️

[crystal finch]

I'll most probably have access to first 4 until the end of season

[sweet cloud]

what cp do you send coup with?

[crystal finch]

But that's the thing, I can always "farm" those first 4 bosses and none of m+ trinkets have a big appeal I guess

[strong cargo]

6+ unless you have to build with ss, in this case just send even at 1 cp

[strong cargo]

Then what's your question ? Buy anything you want 🤷‍♂️

[crystal finch]

My question is what would be the best choice? What would you do if you were in my spot

But yeah thanks

[strong cargo]

I would buy the weapon and a trinket, and save last dinar for magnet I guess

[cedar kernel]

idk if i at realz and ask him some question about outlaw will i get blocked by him

[wintry solar]

You'd get banned before he'd even noticed he got pinged

[mighty pivot]

Is the question jorking related?

[wintry solar]

The ancient texts...

[vapid sundial]

The reckoning is nigh.

Friends have wittled me down.

He returns.

Truly this is so sad.

then i hope over to my enh

[hybrid crown]

Fun fact if you make 4 outlaw rogues you can put them all into one of those warband thingies

[vapid sundial]

Time to remake my ui once again

chat how cooked am i

[wintry solar]

Higher ilvl than me

(I'm in pvp gear)

[vapid sundial]

I started ot make my ui and my brain is like 'please no'

not again

[mighty pivot]

outlaw crew camp sounds like a cool idea. Levelling 4 rogues doesn't. I guess you don't have to level them to max to just tmog some cool shit on them

[hybrid crown]

I found outlaw fun to level

it was slow for a bit, but as you progress through the talents at first your BF lasts longer until its up all the time, then your ADR lasts longer until its up all the time

[wintry solar]

You're a freak and shouldn't be allowed outside

[hybrid crown]

then you are pumping

[vapid sundial]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/465486768435625984/1087214288327946280/d498b9279a6c386a214d00f50a53c9fc870b0e906eea1bd5135c59457d9f91bd_1.gif.gif

You're a freak to be a freakj

[hybrid crown]

yeah you dont have to level all of them

[vapid sundial]

im a freak bc i let my ui be on the edges of my UWD

[hybrid crown]

you can leave one of them at level 71

[vapid sundial]

Illness

[ebon mortar]

Hello mate

[vapid sundial]

You need to be locked up.

Studied.

[mighty pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[vapid sundial]

This cannot continue

[ebon mortar]

i need your help please

[vapid sundial]

@vivid vessel ban him

[vapid sundial]

.

Worse thanm you.

[ebon mortar]

how can i maintain my adrenaline

[hybrid crown]

??

[vapid sundial]

!ban @hybrid crown

[hybrid crown]

😮

nooooooooooo

[stiff hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/jaidenanimations-therapy-worried-gif-27080217

[hybrid crown]

wait it gets worse

[wintry solar]

Stelf

[ebon mortar]

its mean ?

[hybrid crown]

stay in stealth

keep ADR

[ebon mortar]

yeah but its complicated to manage that 😦

[hybrid crown]

pressing the stealth button???

[ebon mortar]

yes but how can i manage that when i consume my 2 charges ?

[ebon mortar]

yes i do

[mighty pivot]

if you spend enough combo points (by doing your rotation properly - see #outlaw-faq) your vanish cd is very low

[hybrid crown]

by the time you have consumed both charges of vanish ideally ADR has come back up

[wintry solar]

It's a really aids loop but people like it idk

[vapid sundial]

Main part of ui is done

Now to be a degen and setup my name plate filters

Diabolical

[hybrid crown]

I would have more time played on the other ones but worgen rogue is too cool

its the best one

[mighty pivot]

because of the flip?

[hybrid crown]

yeah

[vapid sundial]

Vulpera rules

[vivid vessel]

@fallen knot

[vapid sundial]

cheesinbutgif

[hybrid crown]

😮

do they all have the darkfuse coat tmog

[mighty pivot]

zacrebleu

[vapid sundial]

he is french

what do u expect

[jolly geyser]

I think this zac guy plays rogue

[vivid vessel]

[west dirge]

how can you be sure tho?

[jolly geyser]

im not,might be photoshopped. He actually has 5 evokers

[lime lake]

lets not jump to conclusions here

[regal saffron]

Tompelvis

[mighty pivot]

from outlaw to devastation apm

[wintry solar]

Deva slow?

[cedar kernel]

brothers the fucking google verify is pretty annoying

i think it has IP discrimination

[vivid vessel]

🤖

[cedar kernel]

[vivid vessel]

beep boop

failing captcha

nobo

[ebon mortar]

and please, what's the target of the uptime of adrenaline ?

[cedar kernel]

no zac

he just let me keep verify more than 10 times

and each time i already select them rightly

and then he let me select more

fking IP discrimination bro

[fallen knot]

leave me alone zac i'm playing tft

[vapid sundial]

oh

can someone link me the all in 1 macro for pre prep

for poison , stones, etc

[mighty pivot]

as close as you can get to 100%. You can start with 80% and then work your way up to 85-90-95% the more comfortable you get with the spec. It won't happen overnight

[barren stream]

how far behind is HO in comparison to KiR in big AoE dungeons?

[covert kestrel]

Like 1-2%

Not anything crazy like previous season

[ebon mortar]

HHH I'm so so far realyy hard, im in 50% now 😦

[vivid vessel]

i need keys !!

[paper pumice]

Tryna get back to outlaw, last time I played it was df s1, feels like so much is happening at the same time that I miss whats happening or my positioning in m+. Do you guys use sound to remind you of certain procs or are you looking at wa package? feels like 0 downtime and reacting to everything this fast is very complicated. I die ALOT to killing spree aswell, i hate it.

[tropic zephyr]

yeah df s1 was grandpa times

you gotta zoom now

there's no correct answer, you gotta play and feel what you need to play the spec correctly

[gusty cipher]

I feel like with KS and some encounters it’s sometimes good to send it at low CPs just for the damage debuff so it doesn’t kill you? Cinderbrew first boss for instance

[tropic zephyr]

there are useful sounds to be wary of, like Ace procs does some kind of reloading sound meaning you can shoot your BtE again

except this, idk

[fallen knot]

tonight i will probably do some keys

[vapid sundial]

zac is addicted

bro

[late sphinx]

Hey guys, going back on Outlaw after a while, is there a decent build without Killing Spree for M+ ?

[vapid sundial]

soemone help him

[fallen knot]

wow burnout came hitting real hard

[fading hatch]

If you find one let us know

[tropic zephyr]

not really, you can play fatebound and not play killingspree like we did in S1 but you'll lose 15-20% aoe damage

[late sphinx]

Oh, ok, thanks for your answers guys
It's kinda risky to use it on some bosses

[vapid sundial]

if you want a smile

search killing spree / ks in this discord

but ignore any messages from ryu

[tropic zephyr]

[vapid sundial]

Hes a good guy

just a bit cooked

[lime lake]

have you seen some of his rants

[tropic zephyr]

cooking while cooked

[lime lake]

i definitely wouldnt call him a good guy lmao

[scenic hound]

my fav thing todo is hope a dps dies on swamp boss, then when healer gets linked with me on swamp face i pop in the killing spree and take the healer for a ride around the boss

[lime lake]

entertaining though

[vapid sundial]

Hes just a bit lost

[mighty pivot]

ryukage is just outlaw AI

[scenic hound]

do we take deft as HO ?

[fallen knot]

no

you have plenty of cp already

[scenic hound]

and is HO ahead of KIR or are they close

[mighty pivot]

they are toe to toe

play whatever you like

[mint wharf]

i wonder is there difference in stat prio, does the HO need a certain cap of haste, cause it always seems like crit just sims more than haste on HO

[mighty pivot]

!haste

[ornate heath]

Total stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush lowers your GCD based on it, down to 0.8s at 25% haste.

The KIR build wants 18-20% haste from rating, because its only haste buff is from Alacrity.

The HO build meets this requirement with 8-10% haste from rating because of Take 'em by Surprise, but the new HO + Supercharger build continues to like Haste just because of energy, so you will have to sim. Your sim may settle for KIR-levels of haste (~18%) or slightly lower.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use.
You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[wintry solar]

He's literally the biggest KS hater rn

[vapid sundial]

KS is dogshit

theres no hiding that fact

you dont get 90% of a community whining about something for 0 reason

normally

[wintry solar]

It's actually crazy

That

There's so many solutions

And blizz does the worst thing possible

And that's to do nothing

[vale warren]

Does anyone know how much of a dps loss it is to send it at low cps

[vapid sundial]

arent there certain times when you actually send at low cp tho

i remember reading it

[wintry solar]

Yeah when you know you'll die

[wintry solar]

Every now and then it's minuscule

Every time though it's a decent size loss

[vapid sundial]

From what solo said in my little search

its fine to do

4% if you constantly do it

4%~

but here and there is ok

[vale warren]

Ok cool thanks

[vapid sundial]

however

0.3% or whatever

is better than being dead.

[wintry solar]

Remember dust

Should've brought that back instead of this

[vapid sundial]

no

i didnt like dust gameplay

[wintry solar]

You didn't like dust or you didn't like ER with Dust?

[vapid sundial]

i really didnt like ER, but i dont think id like dust either, it makes cds annoying

[wintry solar]

How?

It's just cdr

[vapid sundial]

a big cunk out of nowhere , and i dont think itd be very fun imo to have dust with double vanish.

youd be spending even more time rolling.

I just dont think I would enjoy the loop that would come from dust

[wintry solar]

You'd probably do it less tbh

Because we didn't have subterfuge back in SL

[vapid sundial]

youd probably basically be perma subt

with dust

which would go back to S1 df

which got kinda boring

May as well just let us have double vanish and double Shadow dance

at that point

[wintry solar]

More adr

Is that not what's wanted?

[vapid sundial]

Yeah but a trade off of a very streamline boring rotation

most likely

[wintry solar]

Idk

Maybe

[jolly geyser]

less annoying so its good

[vapid sundial]

Outlaw players are brainrot

most of us enjoying more than SS Eviscerate

I think

idk

[hybrid crown]

yes I am very dumb

I use tiktok too

[weary fog]

[vapid sundial]

Eh

dying to typing

nothing new

ngl

he isnt wrong tho

you guys are being rats

like why cant you move over like 2 pixels to be in totem

[jolly geyser]

dumb ig

[vapid sundial]

I know a few healers who will stop healing you and just let you die if you do that shit

but nah im on healers side here

If people stopped inching out of totem he wouldnt need to say it

and would have surely gotten out

[rapid grail]

what sim option shoudl i sue for outlaw m+?

[vapid sundial]

dungeon slice

[rapid grail]

kk

[vivid vessel]

nice ui

[rapid grail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985782626948349982/1024386610445435022/image0-9.gif

[daring oxide]

You got me

Mf

[rapid grail]

xDDDDDDD

[vapid sundial]

That's a good one

I don't see it unless I click on it but

[rapid grail]

ohhh

unluckyyy

ahhaha

a question

MDT sim isnt good for rogues?

[vapid sundial]

Mdt?

Sim?

[rapid grail]

hmmmm you dont knwo about it?

[vapid sundial]

Judt do 5min pw or ds

It's the standard

[rapid grail]

i mean you can sim the whle rout of dungeon

[vapid sundial]

I mean you can but I feel that's unrealistic / unreliable as routes change

Dslice is normally the most consistent

[rapid grail]

ooh okk

[red zinc]

do yall think keys are more balanced difficulty wise this season or is resilient the reason people don't really have "standout" keys (more than 1 key level gap between timed keys)

[vapid sundial]

The actual damage doesn't matter at the end, it mostly Just shows what's better for equip

[vapid sundial]

Idk how I feel about resilience

[rapid grail]

im playing 4 classes and all of them ahve theyre own sim hunter MDT/mages 5T patchwerk/rogues Dslice xD

[vapid sundial]

Just go up one at a time slamming head

[red zinc]

this is what resilient is doing to the common folk

[vapid sundial]

Seems bad to me Idk

Like

https://tenor.com/view/fox-lick-window-gif-10785441

This is what I think resil is doing

It's a good and a bad

[rapid grail]

my freind yesterday got silenced and susspend for 1 week cuz he put any tip wlc for +17 resil

[vapid sundial]

I think it needs some tweaking

[red zinc]

deserved

[vapid sundial]

I think

[red zinc]

fucking bum

[rapid grail]

xDDD

true

[vapid sundial]

Doing all 15s

Should give 14 resil

So all keys -1

[red zinc]

im so glad wow community is petty enough to report people that put that in their applications

[rapid grail]

hmm not bad idea TBH

[vapid sundial]

So there's some kind of forced prog

[red zinc]

its great

[vapid sundial]

I really dislike that people can just headbutt a key over and over

[rapid grail]

promise you do same if you saw them ^^

[proven ocean]

Cooked

[hallow helm]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[vapid sundial]

Ur not even rank 1 shut up

[hallow helm]

any1 has the macro for sinister strike and ambush?

[vapid sundial]

It's garbage design to just headbutt the same key. It adds nothing to it.

[proven ocean]

We’re both pushing in the same team idiot

[vapid sundial]

Not even rank 1 man

[hallow helm]

!ambush

[ornate heath]

It is possible to use a macro to cast Ambush during Stealth/Audacity and Sinister Strike otherwise, instead of using the stealth bar:
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
*This is most useful to swap between HO and KIR builds without changing keybinds.
Stance swap delay is, for now, not an issue since we don't want to cast vanish into ambush anymore.

[strong cargo]

That always have been wow and pve, doing raid bosses over and over until it dies, same goes for keys and I think it's great

[timid portal]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[vapid sundial]

Bosses are a bit different than keys imo.

20 people and you're also blowing through a fuck ton of gold. Keys are also significantly longer than a single boss.

[drowsy pebble]

yo! sim question, do you ever use gear compare? simming capo knuckles and getting two very different results. Gear compare simming way higher the top gear

[vale warren]

I thought they got rid of gear compare

[mighty pivot]

it's still accessible through the "Other" dropdown

but you shouldn't be seeing major differences between the two unless you forgot an enchant or something else

you can always link the sims if something feels off

[random stirrup]

wasnt gear compare bricked in some way

I thought when they moved it it somehow just completely broke for while

[drowsy pebble]

nah, im just dumb. Dyslexia took over. Sometimes you dont realize how dumb you actually are until these things happen

[craggy barn]

u cant cheese vault anymore right

like if i kill OAB i will still have lockenstock potential in vault?

[honest sparrow]

This saison is a bit weird. The first bosses behave differently becausee they have no fixed order. But when you kill oab you get all bosses before that one. You can cheese vault for the first bosses but they dont matter so yea.

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel u there

[vivid vessel]

i can be

what for

[vivid vessel]

is faro here

[proven ocean]

login dumbfuck we need you

jk we dont but

hes not here yet no

[red zinc]

dude theres multiple havoc dh physical people in queue now

they cant be serious

[desert tendon]

do u need me zero

😳

[red zinc]

@vivid vessel

[desert tendon]

[red zinc]

gotta train my prio damage my fault

[desert tendon]

people think outlaw is funnelling

because of the way it deals damage

always fun

[red zinc]

did 15m on first pull cinder idk what more he wants from me

[desert tendon]

get uncapped

and do 40m

idk

train your damage

[brisk meadow]

!preykey

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[random stirrup]

it actually gains quite a bit from the phys and monk buffs after chaos brand got gutted, poor guys don't have a home in caster comps rn since vdh is turbo meta

[stiff hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/witcher-4-ciri-the-witcher-4-game-gif-4324798954145402343

[wintry solar]

Prey

Dude what a banger game btw.

The 06 and the 2017 versions

[red zinc]

unethical life hack

report people for advertising tip runs even if they arent doing it

get em gone

[torpid fiber]

All I know about the 2017 version of prey is that the speedrun is like 8 minutes or something

[wintry solar]

Whoa

I should speedrun it

[torpid fiber]

I just rememeber seeing a new glitch found every day on r/speedrun

[vivid vessel]

frfr

[red zinc]

i wonder how much of the queue i dont see from reporting all these note tip bozos

how does that even work

if i report someone can i never see them in chat/queue again ever?

[forest rose]

Looking for a rogue to join m+ team for phys comp pushing 14s and 15s rn

[forest rose]

Lets make it clear

Its sexual

[fleet knot]

is HO builds worse then the KiR ones ?

speaking for M+ content

[strong cargo]

Not by much, both are good and viable

A well played kir can be a bit ahead

[fleet knot]

what is easier for not so much coordinated key runs, because I feel quite the punishment when I die and play KiR

[granite quarry]

HO for sure

anyone actually running twilight dev atm? is the proc rate awful?

[white marten]

I get about 2-3.5% dmg overall from Tdev in m+

[green wing]

!pre

[white marten]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[wanton sparrow]

Sorry if i am being annoying or anything but i havent seen what starts are piority

[glass mortar]

@vivid vessel 26% hp per tick u greedy fuk

LMAO

[vague cape]

Haste to breakpoint > vers >= crit > haste > mast

[wanton sparrow]

what is breakpoint 20%?

[glass mortar]

!haste

[ornate heath]

Total stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush lowers your GCD based on it, down to 0.8s at 25% haste.

The KIR build wants 18-20% haste from rating, because its only haste buff is from Alacrity.

The HO build meets this requirement with 8-10% haste from rating because of Take 'em by Surprise, but the new HO + Supercharger build continues to like Haste just because of energy, so you will have to sim. Your sim may settle for KIR-levels of haste (~18%) or slightly lower.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use.
You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[covert kestrel]

Is your prof pic a mouse

[vivid vessel]

zeross isnt baiting

so

we have drops in melee

what can i do dude

[random stirrup]

why did boss bomb you up there

[winged depot]

where does shiv go in prio with kir trickster?

[vivid vessel]

bugged

you know how it is

[winged depot]

since it doesn't proc pistol shot or sth isn't it bad?

[cinder relic]

its a soothe

[glass mortar]

its not a dps button

[cinder relic]

Only purpose

[winged depot]

whats that?

[glass mortar]

removes enrages

[cinder relic]

some monsters have a buff categorized as an enrage

[winged depot]

ohh

[random stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-pubg-loading-sniper-reload-gif-4868344854109813711

[cinder relic]

If u use shiv on them it'll get removed

[winged depot]

kay thanks

[vivid vessel]

https://www.twitch.tv/zac__________________/clip/BadRelievedAdminStinkyCheese-uCcStr1w_ra9Ka_V @glass mortar @random stirrup thoughts ?

[random stirrup]

zeross aimed that one to shut down your overall for sure

[glass mortar]

oh did the aoe indicator not spawn

lmfao

[winged depot]

Am i missing some stuff for kir builld? I have non dps stuff bound to my side bar like sprint, blind, shiv...

[odd anchor]

Aoe doesnt spawn if ur not on the ground, monk jump did

[gaunt phoenix]

ghostly strike

[winged depot]

Does trickser use it in m+?

wasn't on the talent on wowhead

[gaunt phoenix]

the KIR build has 2 versions

You can remove 1 point in Fan the Hammer to take both Ghostly Strike and Precise Cuts

this is the common kir build among higher keys but it's kind of hard to play

i mention it here #1276306860126900315 message

[winged depot]

could u tldr fan the hammer i don't really get it.

It says u get two stacks of opporunity. I wasn't aware opportunity works with stacks yet?

[gaunt phoenix]

Opportunity doesnt have stacks normally

but with the talent, it does

[winged depot]

Oh okay.

ya i get it

[gaunt phoenix]

with 1 point you will get 2 stacks per proc and then pistol shot will consume 2 stacks to fire twice

[red zinc]

Has anyone else been having issues with puddles that disappear for like half a second after pressing ks

Or moving camera sharply

[gaunt phoenix]

with 2 points, you get 3 stacks per proc and pistol shot will consume 3 stacks to fire 3 times

[upper surge]

Hmmm

[winged depot]

so FTH = more dmg for pistol shot & ghostly strike is more single target damage, I'm guessing there are bosses in M+ so Ghostly Strike sounds kinda nice to have

[gaunt phoenix]

2 points in fan the hammer is a lot of combo point generation, it's usually really good though we just happen to have a version that can get away with 1 point

[winged depot]

Ohh & u get more combo points due to fth kay.

it does sound easier

ill try both thanks

[paper pumice]

Since df season 1 I've had Ambush and Dispatch on 2 different keybinds, is that not necessary anymore? ❤️ Thanks and sorry for these noob questions

[frail veldt]

Yeah you need ambush and dispatch on two different binds

[paper pumice]

or maybe I am confusing, what I mean is do I need Ambush on a seperate keybind or is it auto pressed when using sinister?

[rotund zodiac]

!ambush

[ornate heath]

It is possible to use a macro to cast Ambush during Stealth/Audacity and Sinister Strike otherwise, instead of using the stealth bar:
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
*This is most useful to swap between HO and KIR builds without changing keybinds.
Stance swap delay is, for now, not an issue since we don't want to cast vanish into ambush anymore.

[frail veldt]

Oh you only need ambush on your stealth bar

[sand dagger]

Is the mastery kinda whatever for the KIR Trickster?

[frail veldt]

Put it in the same keybind as SS when out of stealth

That's the easiest

[rotund zodiac]

that's kinda high mastery

[paper pumice]

Ah really so when I get Audacity proc I just sinister strike and it will get used? @frail veldt

[rotund zodiac]

could use more vers

[sand dagger]

So -Mastery +Vers?

[rotund zodiac]

yea

[sand dagger]

bet ty

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449080055893590017/1280746470815043646/456.gif

Feels like this asking about stats kekw

[rotund zodiac]

[sand dagger]

So if I craft, should I go Vers Haste or Vers Crit?

[rotund zodiac]

what are your gears rn?

[paper pumice]

If I understand correctly we dont wanna use KS in subterfuge window so I can just unbind KS entirely from my stealth bar right?

[rotund zodiac]

or just ask sim what to craft

[sand dagger]

Any specific item you wanna see or just in general?

[rotund zodiac]

in general

[sand dagger]

https://gyazo.com/37e294d6066f897c801886b8a9017e4c VersMastery back, Crit Vers ring and dagger is Vers Mastery

[rotund zodiac]

can recraft cloak to haste vers

[hollow garnet]

How are the supercharged combo points tracked now? I remember seeing buffs

[rotund zodiac]

ur cp glow blue if you have SC

[frigid pelican]

Do they still work like they did in shadowlands?

[sand dagger]

I dont think so with the addition of Forced Induction

[gaunt phoenix]

Supercharged just buffs your next 2 finishers by +3cp

[hollow garnet]

my current profile doesn't track it

[gaunt phoenix]

it is not a specific supercharged combo point you must land on

[hollow garnet]

and not sure if i need to, honestly

[frigid pelican]

Cool thanks

[sand dagger]

Isnt it 2

[gaunt phoenix]

the capstone makes it +3cp

[sand dagger]

Ah so it's 2 + Forced Induction to bring it to 3

[sand dagger]

Yeah

I thought it was 1 from Supercharger + 1 from Forced Induction

So 2 in total

and not 2 from Supercharger and 1 from FI

[light fossil]

is it worth to buy myth wax whistle with cartel chips? I don't raid so only myth options are m+. Already have hero pacemaker and signet, I gues i'd replace the signet

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah probably

if you cant get M raid trinkets

you will probably end up with M whistle and M pacemaker through dinar

[paper pumice]

oh it feels so much easier when I did remove Sinister strike from stealth bar and just replaced with ambush on same keybind as sinister outside of stealth. Had Ambush on a seperate keybind before, now its less buttons all of a sudden

[sand dagger]

Found this in the bag

I reckon that is pretty neat to get rid of some mastery on my ring

[red zinc]

[sand dagger]

I hope he is applying to a +5 typing that

[rotund zodiac]

that's huge

[quiet condor]

can someone help me with a weapon swap macro for Nightfall cudgel

[neon rapids]

is event in halowfall mace

really bis for outlaw on packs in m+

[rotund zodiac]

yes

very good

[neon rapids]

this gameeeeeeeee

[red zinc]

nah the pins are misinformation thats why they're pinned

[rotund zodiac]

[neon rapids]

no, i didn't know someone just /w me after a key

kek

[rotund zodiac]

I got that sometimes

[paper pumice]

!ambush

[ornate heath]

It is possible to use a macro to cast Ambush during Stealth/Audacity and Sinister Strike otherwise, instead of using the stealth bar:
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
*This is most useful to swap between HO and KIR builds without changing keybinds.
Stance swap delay is, for now, not an issue since we don't want to cast vanish into ambush anymore.

[paper pumice]

Is there any recommendations to change SpellQueueWindow as Outlaw? or just play normal "400" value

[red zinc]

peak lfg day today

[sand dagger]

So if I use AR, do I wanna send KS and then use Vanish into BTE?

Or can I send Vanish + BTE even if KS is off cd, if Vanish is soon overcapping

[gaunt phoenix]

you prio KS

unless you must vanish immediately to not let AR expire

[winged depot]

what weapons do i need?

I took some stuff &

I can't use dispatch x_x

That was a horrible delve

[thick sail]

dont use dagger in mainhand

[gaunt phoenix]

you need a sword/axe/mace/fist in main hand

[winged depot]

kay ty

Is energy management an issue generally?

Without dispatch it was real bad

[cinder relic]

Well without dispatch the spec doesn't work

[gaunt phoenix]

you need to maintain adrenaline rush, if you cant do that, you dont have energy

[winged depot]

oh i totally forgot it improved energy. So is the key to build & use finishers quickly to reduce its CD & use vanish to extend it?

[neon rapids]

the plan is to keep AR on always on you

since it also reduces your gcd

[winged depot]

I can't find the talent but its cd gets reduced by finishers right?

[neon rapids]

Restless Blades passive in your spellbook

[gaunt phoenix]

besides gear (having tier and haste), the yea everything about the rotation influences how to keep adrenaline rush active, proper building and spending priorities, rtb rules etc

[covert kestrel]

on the unseen blade tracker wa its active if it has the dotted lines around it, and the teal squares are guaranteed unseen blade procs correct?

[trim sentinel]

what's the subterfuge bug...? It doesn't get activated sometimes in combat, after vanish.

[cinder relic]

Change your bte macro

[gaunt phoenix]

think you have a different version than mine

[red zinc]

dont put trinkets on bte macro yeah

most likely why its bugging

[gaunt phoenix]

breaking vanish with a trinket will break subterfuge

[trim sentinel]

that could be it. Thanks

[tulip quarry]

It has been fixed no ?

[gaunt phoenix]

was fixed for stealth but not vanish

[tulip quarry]

Sad

[covert kestrel]

oh i am using zacs wa pack, i thought the UB tracker was the same as the !wa one from LE

[gaunt phoenix]

the squares should be the number of unseen blades that are active and waiting to be consumed and then you should see whether the 20s timer is ticking or not

[honest sparrow]

The boxes i think are changed in that one.
Top ones are for guaranteed hits.
Bottoms ones are stacks to coup

[gaunt phoenix]

ah it shows coup

[covert kestrel]

yeah its coup + UB. escalating strikes on the bottom yellow boxes, teal UB on top

[remote pike]

mythic raiding gamers

what spec you played on gallywix?

[covert kestrel]

just trying to figure out how ive been misplaying 1fth cause i never really looked at UB stacks

[remote pike]

assa vs outlaw

[gaunt phoenix]

pretty much teal square = prio SS

[red zinc]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[gaunt phoenix]

over bf/ps

unless in stealth

[red zinc]

i got the newest version of zacs pack and took that tracker

and still feel like it bugs

[cinder relic]

Whatever Ur most comfy on

[covert kestrel]

roger dodger

[valid tartan]

guy played assa on gally

[indigo token]

for stix, is it safe to let ur blade flurry cleave the adds or do I have to leap around to get the bombs (mythic)

[valid tartan]

hes a warrior main anyway

[indigo token]

my guild is struggling with killing all the adds

[cinder relic]

I played sub on gally actually

[valid tartan]

u want to kill the bombs if ur wiping

[cinder relic]

Nice try

[valid tartan]

padding is fine on that fight the adds need to die

[remote pike]

outlaw. more so asking with your experiences on the boss, if its griefing to play outlaw for example cause of ks

[valid tartan]

ideally u have some juiced multi dotters for that fight could be a comp issue

[cinder relic]

Nope just need to actually know how to use it properly

[remote pike]

alright!

[indigo token]

i hate comp issues

[cinder relic]

Play sub on gally

Best spec

[valid tartan]

were u bug abusing

be honest

were u a 10%'er

[cinder relic]

Not a 10%er

[valid tartan]

ok I actually beleive u

[indigo token]

this was our comp last time

[valid tartan]

ethical

[indigo token]

idk why we had 3 arcane

[cinder relic]

I played like shit here

Easily could do 3

[valid tartan]

tbh if no ones killing the adds brother

its a r1 angle

pop off bro

ur eating good if they arent padding

[indigo token]

r1 angle?

[valid tartan]

yeah in good guilds the adds die instantly

if ur guilds isnt killing them u can just pop off

[indigo token]

i mean I can grappling hook around the place

but the incineration

i can cloak it sure

so annoying tho

[valid tartan]

how much BP damage guy

since u have it open

[cinder relic]

0 tf

[indigo token]

oh wait

[valid tartan]

wow u really are ethical

[indigo token]

you werent talking to me

[gaunt phoenix]

u can remove echoing void, it's bugged

[indigo token]

you mean black powder

[indigo token]

yeah I didnt know till yesterday

[gaunt phoenix]

@cinder relic remove echoing void from wowhead

[indigo token]

yeah wowhead still has it

[cinder relic]

Wtf man

I updated it on like day 2 why didn't it update

I hate wowhead sometimes

[runic bough]

I have a situation for the pros. Tell me what you would do.

***You have 2 seconds remaining on adr. You need to vanish or you'll lose adr. There is not another adr charge ready yet. Killingspree is off cooldown.

What do you press??***

[indigo token]

oh fr

[gaunt phoenix]

oh it might be updated in a location i didnt see

[cinder relic]

It just didn't save

[indigo token]

vanish

[cinder relic]

Zzzzz

[valid tartan]

u vanish bro

thats obvious

[indigo token]

chance you might get extra cdr

[valid tartan]

keeping ar up is your #1 priority

[indigo token]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kittens-kitten-kitty-gif-22387983

[runic bough]

Have u guys ever vanish into ks?

[valid tartan]

no

[runic bough]

[valid tartan]

u never pess ks in stealth window brother

[gaunt phoenix]

if AR cooldown is pretty low then you can KS and let it drop for 4 seconds

[runic bough]

But adr not up til 1 minute

[gaunt phoenix]

then ya vanish

[indigo token]

get as much cdr as you can 🚅 that's the fun of outlaw 🚄

[runic bough]

So what your saying we can say FUCK KS in this situation. Ok ok ok

[indigo token]

its always fuck ks

[runic bough]

[indigo token]

you only use it cause you have to

[gaunt phoenix]

🚅🚄

tf is this

[indigo token]

i thought we had emotes to convey speed

[gaunt phoenix]

i see

[indigo token]

i just picked a bullet train cause im lazy

[runic bough]

Its a train with training train behind it.

[fossil lintel]

zac is gapping ross on stream =O

[gaunt phoenix]

damn zac recommended to me now

[indigo token]

gay sex?

[gaunt phoenix]

that would be gaping

[indigo token]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

[runic bough]

Zac is getting popular with Ross and wox doing raids on eachother. Ross even raids Yoda stream.

Its a new networking thing with streamers.

Well not new but

[indigo token]

yknow what i miss on rogue

outlaw rogue

shadow step

sure we have a fuck ton of mobility already but like

it was nice

[glass mortar]

Yes arguably better then double grapple

Double grapples still insane tho

Just less flexible

[stuck sparrow]

df was a weird expac having step on outlaw

[indigo token]

i mean if you really wanna be anal about it didnt we have shadow dance too

[stuck sparrow]

Yeah which was cringe

[fossil lintel]

For a moment on beta we even had CDR on dance

[stuck sparrow]

Yeah

[indigo token]

as much as I love vanish windows

that's a bit much

[stuck sparrow]

mostly because it gave you buffed cto

[cinder relic]

Dance had a lot of synergy with all 3 specs

[stuck sparrow]

ehh it felt like a glorified way to juice kb

for sin in s3

[fossil lintel]

isn't that half of wat sin does?

[stuck sparrow]

back then yah

[vivid vessel]

Are you subscribed tho

[stuck sparrow]

now its just spam env ungabunga

[fossil lintel]

I gave you my prime zac

[vivid vessel]

Nice

Ty Marvin

[gaunt phoenix]

nop

[vivid vessel]

??

[errant arrow]

somedays your the killing spree, other days your the killing myself spree

[vivid vessel]

Wff

[runic bough]

Zac

I'll give prime to Zac next month

Hype train incoming

Pretty soon Zac will be like Yoda followers

Then he can stream full time

Someone needs to make outlaw howto videos

I am too lazy to edit so

And I don't have perfect rotation

[fossil lintel]

llnch used to do some good ones

[runic bough]

So I would just do outlaw on mechanics

I wouldnt do a rotation guide

[ember fractal]

guys is KIR build more ahear of HO ?

in m+

[fossil lintel]

KIR is more fun

[runic bough]

Mitch is my realm 1 outlaw now

I am still 22

No 15's yet

[indigo token]

mitch is the goat

[ember fractal]

im 676 just did 15 prios 4 mil dps in total is that good ?

was third

[jaunty citrus]

!prekey