#outlaw

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cold jewel
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6 dog no disc is wild

vivid vessel
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resto sham

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why

red zinc
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i mean infinite personal dispells

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better than mass

vivid vessel
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how else do you do dogs

red zinc
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ppl dont play the 3 in the back usually

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in pugs

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and play last pack or smth

cold jewel
runic bough
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Sub is kinda fun now I heard or sin. Honestly ks is torture I do not recommend outlaw unless you are really sure you want to live in misery.

red zinc
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block above person

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ks sucks but wouldnt take it from him

cold jewel
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KS is fine if you learn when not to send it, but i do agree it could use a look at

vivid vessel
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its because we skip one processing unit

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(2)

runic bough
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Having to hold a finisher is the biggest copium

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On high apm spec

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Such a disrespekt to the spec

red zinc
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i did a funny route once

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Where we skipped big robot miniboss before 3rd boss

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With warlock gate

vivid vessel
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ye

red zinc
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kinda valid

vivid vessel
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they dod that in mdi

red zinc
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the warlock did 2.6m overall though so

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worried about the wrong optimizations

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the only thing that mf skipped was the wowhead guide

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yeah ok survival is useless banshers just trollin or something idk

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Less damage than fury warrior

glass mortar
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it aints great

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look what they did to my boi

red zinc
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return carpet bomber war criminal survival

glass mortar
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return s1 survival

red zinc
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return s3 SL destro but its outlaw instead

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lizzard has gotten slightly better at balancing m+ than back then ill give em that

dim fern
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do you always land at the same place when using killingspree?

glass mortar
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yes u finish where u cast it from

red zinc
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destro and surv were like doubling other classes kekdog

dim fern
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ah ok, can u get hit during it? looks scary as hell

hard plinth
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Hi! do you guys know where i can find useful weekauras for rogue?

red zinc
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!wa

silent crow
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I randomly topped healing meters on H cauldron with killing spree overhealing

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Can someone explain this please

hard plinth
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Ty!

glass mortar
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the stagger from kspree is counted as healing

silent crow
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Ah

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Nice

gaunt phoenix
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staggering the dino beam is a morbillion damage

glass mortar
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funny that kspree doesnt have a massive overkill flag like most cheat death effects

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u could technically stagger infinite damage with it probably as it currently works

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or whatever the integer limit of the game is anyway

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that beam does like 400m damage on hit or something

red zinc
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If you cloak it it still shows on meter?

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like after the ks is done before you get tapped

glass mortar
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no clue tbh i never actually been hit by it

gaunt phoenix
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probably

glass mortar
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i think its just reading the stagger effect as an absorb so it should since its all been absorbed anyway

red zinc
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Wonder what the highest tick of damage you could personally take is

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in any raid

glass mortar
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probably ur hp bar

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oh like the biggest hit

red zinc
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nah but like to stagger

glass mortar
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beams gotta be close to whatever it could be

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400m is alot

gaunt phoenix
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not sure if things like argus "end of creation" or whatever is really a morbillion damage or just instant death

red zinc
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i feel like theres been a crazier number in journal at some point ye

glass mortar
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probably for some instant wipe mechanic yea

red zinc
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pointless regardless but still funny

dim fern
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can the capo offhand proc on every hit with bladeflurry? or just main target

gaunt phoenix
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it will mostly go on main target

glass mortar
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its just an rppm so it can proc on any target hit but most of ur damage events r on the main target so itll 90% go on that

dim fern
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just saw on wowhead it said 0 sec gcd

glass mortar
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and it doesnt gain any procs

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it doesnt need an icd its an rppm

gaunt phoenix
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like most procs it is rppm

dim fern
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ah ok

keen belfry
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How much ST do we gain by being able to press BF to generate @gaunt phoenix

gaunt phoenix
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i dont remember

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minimal i think

glass mortar
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i havent checked since trickster

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we gained negative dps last season

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because fatebound is ass

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but trickster shuld gain something

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id say probably between 0.5 and 10% dps awang

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i just did the quickmath for u

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👍

keen belfry
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Ty a lot

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Will relay that info

glass mortar
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id sim it myself but im workin

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its not hard to sim tho

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just do a PW multi target fight with 7 dudes and check the diffy in ur primary target damage between that and a ST patchwork with the same build

vivid vessel
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i think

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its also a bit

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it cover bad rng

gaunt phoenix
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ye

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Deft smooshes variance a lot

vivid vessel
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like if you have bs i dont think pressing bf for cp is that good even

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doesnt matter much

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but if you are trash rolling

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you will be happy to have a pack to "funnel"

glass mortar
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ye

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i miss deft playing HO

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maybe i finally redo all my WA while on teh bench tonight

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since im supposed to be in coms for gally prog anyway

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then i can try out this 1 fth nonsense more seriously

runic bough
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I don't get the big deal 1 vs 2 fh

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Same thing

glass mortar
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it reduces how many CP it gens

runic bough
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Use ps to fill cp

glass mortar
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makes it play differently

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especially when you dont have broadside

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also lets u store up to 3 PS uses

analog fog
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yo zac

vivid vessel
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wtf its wox

glass mortar
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!!

analog fog
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u strokin?

glass mortar
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zac isa big fan

vivid vessel
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??

runic bough
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Is wox the guy who said that to realz

vivid vessel
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xdd

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i swear shared chat is so bad tho omegalul

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worse invention in twitch history

analog fog
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its grat

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great

light dune
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outlaw gally players is there a way to dodge the blue dodge orb things on the ground? it feels kinda random where ks puts you relative to gallywix in p1

vivid vessel
light dune
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ahhhh

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interesting

vivid vessel
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your healer can dispell the stun

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel

vivid vessel
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YES

proven ocean
vivid vessel
vivid vessel
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bro found zeross on google map thats crazy

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@proven ocean

frank finch
proven ocean
light dune
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how does this build pick up PC? do u have to be HO / Kir to grab it?

glass mortar
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it depends on ur build

vivid vessel
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ho drops gs

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kir drops 1 fth

glass mortar
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theres 3 ways to get it

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ho drops GS

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kir can drop GS or 1 fth

sudden lava
vivid vessel
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ye i saw

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target cap is so weird

sudden lava
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yeah it's kinda bs

vivid vessel
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also its true that a target cap spec is way less likely to be good

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in m+

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needs to be overtuned

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i never really thought about that part

sudden lava
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i did a 17 flood with a fury warr who parses like 99s/100s in raid, and he did like 2 mil less than me and the ret

sudden lava
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but that was partly the dungeon pull sizes as well

vivid vessel
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its really fucking good rn

sudden lava
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TRUE

vivid vessel
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people just dont know about it

frank finch
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keep it that way

vivid vessel
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I mean the r1 rogue is outlaw

frank finch
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we due for a buff

vivid vessel
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gets you thinking rtight

glass mortar
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shameless

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absolutely shameless

vivid vessel
frank finch
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we r bottom half of raid dps rankings buff incoming

glass mortar
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zac u know whats funny

vivid vessel
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I like it that way

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outlaw is good enough in raid

glass mortar
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if outlaw was so good it was gapping specs by 1m overall even in ur keys

vivid vessel
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and in m+ its very good

glass mortar
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still nobody would play it

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especially this version

vivid vessel
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ye prolly

glass mortar
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our spec has immunity to reroll

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its hilarious

frank finch
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prolly dont even need a buff , fixing ks would be a dps buff unironicly

vivid vessel
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idk im kinda expecting for chinese peolpe to reroll to mele comps

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if we manage to do good keys

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we need to play a bit more

sudden lava
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the fact that they tried to make killing spree a thing again is hilarious

glass mortar
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they managed cuh

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all is psychopaths in here

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suffering thru a whole season

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of this completely absurd ability

vivid vessel
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This season is so cool btw

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Tuning wise

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So many fun compa

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It's like s1 df kinda

glass mortar
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ye they avoided any outlandish op

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i mean yea s1 had enhance but

vivid vessel
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Funny how it coincide with Aug being gone

glass mortar
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enhance was never as gapping as some of the broken specs were in df imo

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maybe for like a week

sudden lava
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stay dead

haughty wigeon
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atleast it was before the s1 tier set got nerfed

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not sure now

vivid vessel
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Ye

haughty wigeon
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as long as they dont make aug stupid op, i think its in a solid spot

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel come handle rem this time its the cooked rem pls send some backup

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We’re in trouble

abstract frost
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!preraid

proven ocean
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!precum

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!prekey

ornate heathBOT
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Pre-key fuckery

  • rtb RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
  • DO NOT rtb RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not adr AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
  • After the bubble drops use rtb RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
  • Before entering the first pack bf BF into stealth Stealth.
  • Open on pack with adr AR into bte BtE.
sullen wyvern
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Killing OAB on one of my worst pulls

deft vector
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haven't gotten to play rogue all this season, so my weapons are both worse than champion, is there a preferred setup to work towards between vision weapon, cudgel, hero knuckles, and (for starters) a runed crafted mainhand? Or is it just a sim angle? just trying not to waste dinars + crests

lone spear
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just casually missing a rank 1 parse dead

gaunt phoenix
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craft mainhand, swap between cudgel and capo offhand

deft vector
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really worth it to pick up both?

lone spear
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in m+ yea its a gain

deft vector
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oof alright thanks

cedar kernel
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omg damn brothers i had never miss GSW than this moment with ER

sullen wyvern
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I honestly wonder how some of you guys get those top parses on warcraftlogs

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Do you do some kind of cheese or you just get insanely lucky with rolls

cedar kernel
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let ur teammate make small pulls

sullen wyvern
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with ace procs and all, cuz whenever I got those on OAB I was doing 5m consistently

glass mortar
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just gamin

sullen wyvern
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I guess

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I am just helping a friend and his guild with some prog, granted theyre not the brightest

cinder relic
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Good play and optimal guild

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Depending on the fight. Having a guild that doesn't deal aoe is very advantageous, some it's good to have a high damage group so you have fast kill timers

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And yeah, bit a luck too

sullen wyvern
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oh yeah adds dying was not an issue ever for sure, at least not melee add lmao

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eh, I don't really like raiding too much, just doing it now cuz I got some free time.

gaunt phoenix
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raiding blows ass

bright crane
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FACTS

timber knoll
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are ppl still ridin with that cudgel or nah in m+

rose iron
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Hey my friends, completely new to rogue and outlaw seems the most fun. I enjoy high rpm classes, I read the icy veins guide but I wanted to know if there is a more in depth guide bc I know how complex this spec is ( from what I've heard). Anywhere I can check ? I checked pins but it seems most of it is stuff people with more exp would find handy

hybrid crown
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Yes #outlaw-faq has some great info and if you have more questions this channel is super helpful

rose iron
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Thanks a ton, switching from monk to rogue will be a blast garf_sit

frail veldt
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Unless they fix it resetting on combat it will be bis for the whole season

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It's essentially uncapped aoe

rose iron
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anyone know if i can do nightfall for currency before 80 ? still lvling atm but that weapon would be a catch

dreamy pecan
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/wa

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!wa

random stirrup
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is this thing gonna gap 710ilvl offhands next season

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kinda seems that way so far tbh

frail veldt
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Lol good question

random stirrup
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weapon swap macro will change to equip it before large pulls garf_sit

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bis during midnight in 20 target aoe garf_sit

cedar kernel
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brothers i saw alots people taking House of Card may i ask the reason?

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to answer other brothers

cedar kernel
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like this is the only reason?

hollow temple
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ye pretty much

cedar kernel
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PogO i thought theres other reason like good in burst to fit teams route

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thats quite simple, thought it will be complicated

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ty trickz

hollow temple
tender wedge
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the other reason that ties into that is zac had been using it

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(because good in aoe)

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then people follow what #1 outlaw do

cedar kernel
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Thats tomelvis

cedar kernel
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i wish ER and GSW return to our build

wintry solar
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I see

cedar kernel
glass mortar
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its also only good in aoe for kir

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also good is a strong word

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i think zac likes having a button to press for important pulls tho

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bro my guild has gone from seeing first intermission for the first time to sub 30% hp wipes on gally in 1 night

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the power level of our characters rn is insane compared to this raid

wintry solar
cedar kernel
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i hope GSW could become a selection between Crackshot, like if i want to make a steady or ps dmg, i can choose GSW, or if i like BTE i can choose Crackshot for unstoppable shoting, but i think the dmg between them should be tiny, just like BB and GSW was in SL

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it will make outlaw fun, i could have choice to select instead of no matter what i choose i still just keep pressing BtE

wintry solar
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Well

glass mortar
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u need to cast bte to activate GSW tho

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the problem is GSW has not aged well

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it never added anything to gameplay really

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it still doesnt, and it also doesnt synergize with anything wedo

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its just... a little more damage on one ability that doesnt do particularly high damage

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doesnt add to the rotation at all

wintry solar
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You can drop Ace for PC in HO but you'd have to drop GS or CTO for gsw

glass mortar
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gsw just needs to be binned

wintry solar
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And that's about 9% behind

glass mortar
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back to the drawing board

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honestly if anything FtH should be the capstone there but that would be another locked in capstone

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PS needs a real capstone

grim spear
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garf_sit die twice on gally,
rl banned me from using KS.
back to a coin-flip guy

wintry solar
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Apparently 300% was too much

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And 200% killed it

cedar kernel
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yea thats what i feel GSW rn, wish theres a rework for it could make outlaw variable, like Enhancement rn, they could choose to use Surging Totem for steady dmg, or choosing Storm Bringer for Burst dmg
in my imagine, the best outlaw situation should be: we have 2 play style, if i choose GSW(if reworked), i could do the classical rotation, just BtE-PS-Normal rotation until next time BtE-PS (consider theres no FtH and a new talent for it)
or the new things we are playing with Crackshot, Keep pressing BtE for short time bursting with Vanish.

glass mortar
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i dont think they r ever gunna give us burst

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outlaws thing is sorta not bursting

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crackshot is like the best controlled damage window we've ever had but its still not burst

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i wouldnt mind a burst profile mind you but most outlaw players seem disfavorable to it and i dont feel strongly either way

cedar kernel
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i think Crackshot build is somekind of small burst depending on vanish

glass mortar
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burst is just always better in this game

wintry solar
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When people say outlaw burst I just assume they mean a controlled damage window

cedar kernel
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like our dmg reach the highest when we enter Stealth Windows

glass mortar
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well when people say burst they usually mean when i press this button im doing substantially more damage then in our default window

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crackshot does not currently do that

cedar kernel
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when we out of it, our dmg decrease

glass mortar
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it is a moderatly higher damage phase tho

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like

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this is a top profile on sprocket

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u can pick out a couple crackshots

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but

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mostly u cant tell where hes vanishing

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its really not a burst window in the way people think of burst windows

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because if ur low rolling rng in a vanish, ur legit doing the same damage as highrolling rng outside a vanish

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🤷

cedar kernel
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fair though, one of our dmg comes from Rng

glass mortar
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mhm

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now this is a st fight (sprocket) so its fatebound

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maybe trickster u can tell vanishes a little more

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let me find a good trickster parse

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ehhhhhhh

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thats a top trickster sprocket parse (herioc)

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yea we really dont have any burst

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even with crackshot

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which is good btw, having a burst profile would be a boon... having a almost completely random burst profile (since we cant greatly control when we vanish) would not be so nice

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burst is nice because u can pick where to use it

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we have slight flexibility in our vanish usage currently, but not nearly enough to make it a burst window imo

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would feel pretty bad if a massive portion of our damage was locked inside it

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now if they reworked crackshot also i could see it happening, and that would be kinda cool

twin valley
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is HoC actually any good in keys. seen a decent amount of people with it equipped

cedar kernel
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i think crackshot can be stay but we need something to compete with it, just like the 2 sides, my main idea is that no matter we choose KIR/HO, we still sending BtE in Vanish
i wish there could be more and variable

wintry solar
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I don't think there's room for it

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Dmg can be tuned but the cdr ace/cs provide would be rough to rival.

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Would be easier with HO but kir would need more help

cedar kernel
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hmm

wintry solar
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Unless we scaled all resources back and tune things accordingly but I don't want to think of the logistics of that

cedar kernel
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there a little hard to explain or describe my idea, my Eng is not good enough to explain itsaddecry

wintry solar
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Go ahead and try

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Aw man

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China isn't getting Legion Remix

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Unless stated by wowhead later

cedar kernel
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dw

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we will have

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but not this time i guess

wintry solar
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I believe

cedar kernel
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since they already canceled our pandaria

wintry solar
cedar kernel
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ok return back to the topic popo, like before Crackshot comes out our dmg profile is quite steady

wintry solar
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Yes back

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Right

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As was always the case

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Crackshot just made higher highs and lower lows imo.

cedar kernel
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yea thats what i think

wintry solar
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Not crackshot but the revamp as a whole

cedar kernel
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so i am thinking that if theres a build for GSW rework to make our dmg always stay in a medium range of Crackshot to compete against Crackshot in overall, like SLs Build or maybe BoA Build

wintry solar
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What's BoA

cedar kernel
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Battle of Azeroth?

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is that call

wintry solar
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Oh right

cedar kernel
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the Expac

wintry solar
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Battle For Azeroth

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But I get it

grim spear
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what? we won't have legion remix?

wintry solar
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Same thing

grim spear
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why?

wintry solar
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China

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Are you? Idk

grim spear
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ye. why?

wintry solar
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It wasn't announced for china yet

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After the net ease thing

grim spear
wintry solar
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Hold out for hope

grim spear
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no way

wintry solar
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Surely China gets remix

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No way they dont

cedar kernel
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popo

grim spear
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Maybe they just haven't announced it together yet.

cedar kernel
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maybe this time CN server is

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pandaria remix

grim spear
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It's hard to imagine there won't be Legion Remix

cedar kernel
grim spear
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NetEase would get absolutely roasted by the players.

cedar kernel
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and the next time when u guys have new remix

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we will have legion remix

wintry solar
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I just read CN got rewarded for missing pandalands

grim spear
wintry solar
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So maybe yall will get it

grim spear
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pandaria remix is for level 70

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too much extra work to do to make it fit for level 80 version

cedar kernel
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no need

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bro

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just like

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setting a portal

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when u reach 70 in pandaria

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then u enter a new world to make ur pandaria remix charactor to 0 level then level up in legion remix again

grim spear
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maybe

cedar kernel
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i am a Chinese so i could predict what netease will do

wintry solar
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I'm pretty sure yall will get it. Otherwise yall wouldn't have gotten free pandarion remix rewardd

grim spear
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I'm planning to start writing a rant against NetEase right now, just in case.

cedar kernel
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no we just need to pay for 888 yuan again for Yearly Gametime and the rewards

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so netease can get the money

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surprise mate

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thats netease mostly do

wintry solar
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Dang

cedar kernel
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like the last time they send 888 Yuan for yearly gametime and a piece of mogs that comes from the...uh the store and monthly reward from that

wintry solar
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I brought it up because I was gonna ask what build you were gonna use

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Because the gems and stuff made builds obsolete

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So you could run whatever you want

cedar kernel
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wdym popo

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like which extent we are talking about

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i didnt play pandaria remix bc i feel lonely when playing it

wintry solar
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In pandaria remix, the gems and abilities you got were so strong, your build didn't matter

cedar kernel
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and CN server havent returned yet atm make me feel boring bc i couldnt take those thing back to my acc

wintry solar
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So you could play your GSW build and be just fine

cedar kernel
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i see

wintry solar
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I'm running Stealthless HO personally

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I think that'll be funny

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Or 5cp stealthless kir

cedar kernel
somber plank
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which is stronger between ho and kir in single target?

wintry solar
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They're about the same

wintry solar
cedar kernel
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yea

wintry solar
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That's what retail is for

somber plank
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Is there no difference?

wintry solar
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Marginally

cedar kernel
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or they are small diff in ST i think

wintry solar
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It's close enough for you to pick preference

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Write it down. Won't happen again.

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Hope yall get Remix bac

somber plank
wintry solar
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Yw

ripe ibex
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!wa

cedar kernel
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ty popo

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wish they will bring it back to rise my passionate to WoW again

wintry solar
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Turns out, it takes mastery to be uncapped and have 0 dr to be really good

wintry solar
storm drum
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is there a weak aura for wep swap?

sour vault
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there's a macro

jovial sedge
sour vault
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pog

crimson thicket
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HE DED

storm drum
sour vault
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gz

rose iron
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worth it to craft 681 mainhand if i have 675 gallywix wep ?

next wedge
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alr heroic logs looking better

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who want me

red zinc
hot olive
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dion sanders son lol

rotund zodiac
radiant fiber
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What head corruption do we need for m+?

eager rose
blissful idol
runic bough
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Guys

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It's ryukage

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Stay sane out there

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Trolololspree be raging us like a mofo

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That is all

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Stay sane out there

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Peace

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Gn gn

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P.s.

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I forgot.

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Gn gn

unkempt cypress
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is it even worth sending KS in room with the bonks in dfc?

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feel like its just a gamble

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sucks

next wedge
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Little wigs has a timer for mob abilities by their health bar

strong cargo
neat sapphire
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when we run out of vanish charges, do we still cast AR on cooldown?

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because it will be hard to get back without vanish

eager rose
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Gushing wounds is ok for aoe and st?

strong cargo
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Yes, check pins

sour vault
neat sapphire
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awesome, thanks

brazen lava
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Sup guys, do we play KiR or do we play ambush on keys?

rotund zodiac
red zinc
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yo this new?

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never seen this

rotund zodiac
radiant fiber
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!wa

rapid ore
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5 5rolls in a row ama

mighty pivot
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why not 6 rolls

clear badge
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Noob question, we can't swap weapons on m+ so we're always going Nightfall nop ?

azure vortex
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You can swap offhand

jolly geyser
#

unless its gally weapon

craggy barn
#

guys

#

i travelled all the way to france

#

for fast food

#

bc french tacos is the outlaw food

#

i am going to be so op when i get back to na and can play

craggy barn
#

i just ordered it waiting rn

#

id be surpised if it wasnt cooked zeross

#

wouldnt eat it

#

@vivid vessel am i making a mistake and just going to chamas tacos

#

am i dead

proven ocean
craggy barn
#

zac they put a french flag on my taco

jolly geyser
#

Going to france to eat tacos

proven ocean
#

Ur cooked out the wazoo cuh

craggy barn
#

bruh i already ate a fuck ton of french cuisine

#

thats how u know its french

#

@vivid vessel

prisma yarrow
#

They dont need to see my ugly face

inner meadow
#

with HoC do i just use it on cd for outlaw or do i wanna line it up with something?

sour gulch
#

excuse me

craggy barn
#

u just send it in aoe

inner meadow
craggy barn
#

cant really line it with mich but u could wait for ur cs rotation

rapid grail
#

!sim

#

!simc

craggy barn
#

!fuu

ornate heathBOT
craggy barn
#

lookong for this?

vivid vessel
#

this looks fire

craggy barn
#

zac

#

they put a french flag

#

are they mocking me

vivid vessel
#

ye

craggy barn
#

lol

#

gdi chamas tacos

vivid vessel
#

i think they legit are

#

never seen that before

#

must be reserved for noob tourists

craggy barn
#

probably

#

i am in a touristy area

rotund zodiac
#

@craggy barn are you meeting zac irl?

craggy barn
#

ye

rotund zodiac
#

Cool

craggy barn
#

he teaching me outlaw rn

vivid vessel
#

zomb

#

are you liking the tacos tho

craggy barn
#

ye

#

vwry different

#

very french

vivid vessel
#

nice

craggy barn
#

way better than most other fastfood in us

vivid vessel
#

told you

craggy barn
#

i never doubted

#

doesnt beat real tacos tho

#

but as a fastfood its fire

vivid vessel
#

??

craggy barn
#

bruh real mexican tacos are legit

vivid vessel
#

this aint even the same shit tho

craggy barn
#

i know

vivid vessel
#

its like you were comparing

#

pastas

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to hamburgers

#

mf

craggy barn
#

yea but they france decided to call these tacos

#

so its 100% deserved

cedar kernel
#

wait ryukage become Yellow again

vivid vessel
#

gm bac

stiff glade
#

gm bac

craggy barn
#

zac

#

just saw someone get a taco

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and no french flag

#

LOL

vivid vessel
#

owned

craggy barn
#

i AM wearing a TL shirt

#

must be mad

vivid vessel
#

i mean you are also not french

craggy barn
#

yea

vivid vessel
#

like it shows

craggy barn
#

yuh

vivid vessel
#

you dont need to be wearing anything

#

you could be naked not talking i would know

craggy barn
#

trust me i know

vivid vessel
#

you arent french

proven ocean
#

LOOOL

#

Zac

craggy barn
#

tourists are pretty easy to spot

proven ocean
#

Is that french tacos looking too good?

vivid vessel
#

french tacos is the best food in the world zeross

proven ocean
#

Does ur tscos usually look bad or what zac

proven ocean
craggy barn
#

zac probably gets better tacos

#

since hes french

vivid vessel
#

yes usually its cooked

sour gulch
#

is it a baguatte instead of a tortilla

vivid vessel
#

better that way

craggy barn
#

no its a tortilla

vivid vessel
#

no its not the same shit

#

at all

vivid vessel
wintry solar
#

I made a burger the size of a dinner plate once

#

All of it homemade

sage zodiac
#

I would like to ask, when I am not in combat, Roll the Bones does not prompt me whether to roll. How can I set it to display the prompt even when I am not in combat?

craggy barn
#

check the load tab

#

should be a checkbox for combat

vale warren
#

Probably so he knows if he wants to roll right before engaging a pack

sage zodiac
cedar kernel
cedar kernel
opal raven
craggy barn
#

fuck

#

i decided not to get any when i was there

opal raven
#

thats very sad

#

legit french tacos capital is lyon

craggy barn
#

i blame zac for not telling me

vivid vessel
#

its wehre it was created buddy

#

actual skill issue

craggy barn
#

huge skill issue

#

i asked u where to get french tacos montha ago

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u said u didnt know bc u never went outside

#

fckin trolled

#

there was like one day i coulda gotten one in lyon

opal raven
#

especially the places in villeurbanne but thats very deep french tacos knowledge

cedar kernel
#

zac do u like the idea i talked about 5 hours ago

#

@vivid vessel

#

xdx mistyped to 10 years sorry

wintry solar
cedar kernel
#

the thing i talk to u popo?

#

like rework GSW or something else

wintry solar
#

He won't like

cedar kernel
#

i see

#

sry about disturbing

wintry solar
#

Well now let's just wait and see

#

Meanwhile I'll be coasting the last 50 minutes of my shift.

cedar kernel
#

HOLY out of work at 12?

#

or middle rest

wintry solar
#

7pm to 7am

sour gulch
wintry solar
#

That's a much cooler name tbh

sour gulch
#

That's what it stands for irl

cedar kernel
#

nah its a wild idea? like seperate the global rotation to keep pressing BtE -> the old time 1 Bte-1 PS

#

bring back the cooperation

sour gulch
#

And why aren't we using GSW? I love that talent

wintry solar
#

It could stand for anything without context tbh

sour gulch
#

but it has never been used ever

wintry solar
sour gulch
#

Aged bad how

cedar kernel
#

imo it just dont fit Fth and Crackshot

sour gulch
#

oh GSW doesnt' fit with cracskhot

#

you're right lmao

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel wanna do

#

monk

sour gulch
#

imagine if it stacked though

proven ocean
#

keys

#

?

wintry solar
#

Both crackshot and ace.

#

So its a double whammy for gsw

sour gulch
#

what if it stacked

cedar kernel
#

stack is a good idea

#

will make it also fit with PS

wintry solar
#

Normally a capstone would effect gameplay

#

Preferably I mean

cedar kernel
#

yea

wintry solar
#

Numerically it'd help but gameplay wise it'd change nothing.

#

I'm sure blizz will come up with something eventually

lime lake
sour gulch
#

first psf boss is such a good outlaw b oss

#

with precise

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel how much haste

#

do i need for KiR

#

cuh

#

?

#

chat

#

anyone

#

know

#

s

#

?

blissful idol
#

18-20

wooden frost
#

Is there any commands for macros?

craggy barn
#

theres 1 macro command

#

!ambush

ornate heathBOT
#

It is possible to use a macro to cast Ambush during Stealth/Audacity and Sinister Strike otherwise, instead of using the stealth bar:
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
*This is most useful to swap between HO and KIR builds without changing keybinds.
Stance swap delay is, for now, not an issue since we don't want to cast vanish into ambush anymore.

wooden frost
#

Okay thank you.

azure vortex
craggy barn
#

!haste

ornate heathBOT
#

Total stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because adr Adrenaline Rush lowers your GCD based on it, down to 0.8s at 25% haste.

The kir_charger KIR build wants 18-20% haste from rating, because its only haste buff is from talents_alacrity Alacrity.

The ho_charger HO build meets this requirement with 8-10% haste from rating because of takem Take 'em by Surprise, but the new HO + Supercharger build continues to like Haste just because of energy, so you will have to sim. Your sim may settle for KIR-levels of haste (~18%) or slightly lower.

You need to use raidbots Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use.
You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

craggy barn
#

hm thought it had the "precise" number

gaunt phoenix
#

precise misleads people into overthinking if 19.5% haste is too much

shell fossil
#

kinda madge the disc belt is gonna replace my myth track haste/vers belt ngl, but s'fine

wooden frost
#

In the city on the cleave dummies, how much dmg do you guys usally pull. Just respecced. hehe

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel

gaunt phoenix
#

:cuh:

dense bolt
#

sheesh

vivid vessel
dense bolt
#

we on fleek today or what

haughty wigeon
unique echo
#

yoyo guys does anybody have a good weakaura for the magnet cause all the stuff i found on wago was kinda trash

#

?

proven ocean
#

@gaunt phoenix u told me abit ago magnet bug was fixed

#

its still there

gaunt phoenix
#

ya it is

proven ocean
gaunt phoenix
#

its not fixed i was bad

red zinc
#

theres nothing to manage with that trinket

leaden folio
#

zac is cheating omg

prisma yarrow
#

What was the bug

leaden folio
#

thx zerocool

craggy barn
#

ahat bug? the reset?

gaunt phoenix
#

if the target dies while the magnet projectiles are in the air then the stacks dont reset

proven ocean
#

what bug

#

?

red zinc
#

seems hard to abuse that

prisma yarrow
#

Thats big

vivid vessel
#

big useless ye

craggy barn
#

its ez, big pad

#

the real use is send on pvp in top bc it kills most classes

#

before they can do anything

prisma yarrow
#

What was the azerite power called when u snipe it was resetting

craggy barn
#

full kidney into trash is MAD disrespect

unique echo
grim spear
vivid vessel
craggy barn
#

its a great bug for world / low level content

vivid vessel
#

so it just serve to not waste stacks

proven ocean
#

magnet bug is like

vivid vessel
#

it might even be intended

proven ocean
#

a reverse eye of kezan

#

useless but

#

dmg is there

prisma yarrow
#

I found the azerire essence

#

Breath of the dying

fading hatch
#

Sounds like its incredibly strong for killing mobs which are already dead

red zinc
#

massive

vivid vessel
#

its good in vision

red zinc
#

are you ok

#

also what happened to m+ queue

#

a 10 im queueing has gotten 2 applies in the last 10 minutes

#

did everyone get jobs?

#

wtf

prisma yarrow
#

M+ needs a solo que

compact smelt
#

yo echoing void is simming 12k dps more than gushing wound for me, is gushing wound still best corruption for raid? i read about echoing being bugged but im not sure which to take

red zinc
#

read pin

gaunt phoenix
#

its bugged

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel st for abit

leaden folio
#

guy need to do an article on wowhead

proven ocean
#

outlaw feels kinda fun

#

ngl

leaden folio
#

to talk about echoing void

proven ocean
#

plays rly well

#

zac

#

i think

#

KS is not that hard

#

maybe im just awake af rn

fading hatch
vivid vessel
proven ocean
#

this is the wep?

vivid vessel
#

y

prisma yarrow
#

Why do i take damage from ks sometimes ?

leaden folio
vivid vessel
#

read the spell lol

red zinc
#

Like I actually can’t understand it anymore man, they all do similar damage except the bugged one, I say hey it’s bugged, take any of the other ones that aren’t bugged, it gets hotfixed, it’s still bugged, I say hey it’s still bugged, new week rolls around, people ask if it’s still bugged, I update pin yes it’s still bugged, I change the pin FIVE TIMES IN A DAY AND REPIN AND CHANGE AND STILL AND YES AND GREATER AND STILL BUG

Nothing to do, I am simply floating in the riptide. Nothing this expansion has gotten the same, exact, fucking, identical question over and over and over like this corruption bullshit and it’s literally just meaningless fomo shit that’s worth nothing and they all do nearly the same stupid damage and I JUST NEED PEOPLE TO PICK LITERALLY ANYTHING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU PEOPLE DRIVE ME INSANE WHY WONT YOU LISTEN TO ANYTHING OR READ ANYTHING IM LITERALLY SPOON-FEEDING YOU

gaunt phoenix
#

all damage you take during the animation is instead staggered to you over 8 seconds

proven ocean
vivid vessel
#

was answering lashgodx

grim spear
#

ks is fun

proven ocean
#

oh the wep is still 658

#

that sucks

grim spear
#

but ks in raid is just trolling

prisma yarrow
#

Even if its 1
Shot mechanic

leaden folio
#

ONE SIM FUCKIN BABOON

prisma yarrow
#

If i ks it

red zinc
#

i mean in this case not even

#

sim no worky

#

just read pin

prisma yarrow
#

Do i still stagger it ?

craggy barn
#

poor whispyr struggling in sin chat

#

yes

prisma yarrow
#

Can stagger the 1 shot mechanic with ks ?

craggy barn
#

if the damage is too much u just die in one tick

prisma yarrow
#

But u can also ask external during ks right ?

grim spear
craggy barn
#

external defnsives yea

red zinc
dense bolt
#

are we seeing a ross outlaw arc

#

coming

prisma yarrow
#

Wrf

dense bolt
#

or

craggy barn
#

u can cloak off the debuff

#

ross is playing ol while zac is monk

red zinc
#

banger

craggy barn
#

they doing shit keys i think

gaunt phoenix
craggy barn
#

hmm

prisma yarrow
#

So your telling me on arens boss top i can tank aoe with ks than i cloak it ?

fading hatch
tropic zephyr
red zinc
prisma yarrow
#

Bro

gaunt phoenix
#

they didnt cloak at all. just died to beam 3 times

craggy barn
#

lol

red zinc
#

oh lmao

prisma yarrow
#

If its like this

red zinc
#

i thought the space between the deaths meant he was minmaxing it

craggy barn
#

the stagger fully counts as healing in logs

red zinc
#

i can do better than this with cr's

craggy barn
#

so funny

prisma yarrow
#

Its crazy good

red zinc
#

let me get the rank 1 log actually

#

holup

craggy barn
#

its conpensation lash

#

its so bad they had to add that

#

otherwise u just die during ks

red zinc
#

you gotta go for the supercharged KS in beam

#

and cloak after

prisma yarrow
#

What if i use it during candles in dfa

red zinc
#

then same on the next one but you die and get cr'd

prisma yarrow
#

Do i get stuck in candle or

strong cargo
craggy barn
#

stunned

gaunt phoenix
#

shunned

craggy barn
#

it doesnt prevent cc

red zinc
#

sonned

#

phoenix sons

craggy barn
#

solo

#

i am outlaw god now

#

i ate a french taco

gaunt phoenix
#

nice

strong cargo
#

First boss rookery instant stuns you (if I play with healer I ask him to dispell me and still use it)

prisma yarrow
#

1 st boss during intermisson

strong cargo
#

Yes

#

Once lasers are up

prisma yarrow
#

U can go 1 step ahead and use it

craggy barn
#

u have to precloak it otherwise need a bubble or something

prisma yarrow
#

No ?

strong cargo
glass mortar
#

the beams stun u

#

not the orbs

#

in his center hitbox the beams instantly hit u

prisma yarrow
#

Hmm its better than my sectech clones dropping down the edge

glass mortar
#

well usuallly u die

#

unless ur healer has fast reflexes

#

so idk if its better

cedar kernel
#

gm solohi

#

gm weran

#

how about ur sleep last night

proven ocean
vivid vessel
#

lashga is about to int so many keys with ks

proven ocean
#

💀

cedar kernel
#

dogepray hi zeross

prisma yarrow
#

Tried outlaw last night and it feels good to use everything on cd no need to think about next pack 🙂

cedar kernel
#

my "man-est" rogue

latent oak
#

he who holds his cool downs, has no cool downs

prisma yarrow
#

As sub u hold many times or you wipe 🙂

prisma yarrow
#

Outlaw just send everything on cd

latent oak
#

amen

prisma yarrow
#

Maybe sometimes holding ar for downtime

#

If u have rp in 10-15 no need to press ar i guess

proven ocean
#

bro

#

we had enough ryu cooks

latent oak
#

are u 3 forming the triple outlaw dream team?

prisma yarrow
#

But if u have rp that u can stay in stealth with bf up i think it does not metter right ?

prisma yarrow
#

Did u guys sim which buff outlaw benefits more

#

Skyfurry ?

#

Shout

white marten
#

Yes

red zinc
#

!fuu

ornate heathBOT
red zinc
#

in there

#

skyfury is 2.8

strong cargo
#

Monk/war 5%, sham/drood 2,5%

prisma yarrow
#

Monk war mandatory

#

I guess

red zinc
#

not really

strong cargo
#

Mandatory for a physical comp pushing 20s I guess, otherwise who cares 🤷‍♂️

prisma yarrow
#

Look assa

red zinc
#

so often it just matters whether the person in your group isnt a complete cretin

prisma yarrow
#

No need skyfurry

red zinc
#

buffs arent relevant

prisma yarrow
#

Wtf

#

I tought skyfurry is good for assa

#

Dslice

red zinc
#

if you know everyone is playing perfectly buffs are great but id rather have a hunter doing 5-6m than some idiot ww doing 3.5

daring oxide
prisma yarrow
#

Outlaw should be better pick in top and ws tight

#

Right ?

#

Maybe not ws

strong cargo
#

Nop

prisma yarrow
#

But for sure top

grim spear
#

If there's coaglamation this tier, I'm curious how much dps we can do.

strong cargo
#

Brew is a bit under all others, but the top/ws is not true anymore. It's just good everywhere

vivid vessel
#

ws is prollly outlaw worse key

prisma yarrow
#

The good thing about assa is u can play the spec with anycomp on but for outlaw u need physical and sub you need sham

strong cargo
#

Why do you need anything for outlaw lol

prisma yarrow
#

Do more damage

#

Also u get less invites

#

In pugs

grim spear
#

If you put it that way, assa needs shout too.

#

and chaos brand

prisma yarrow
#

Nature damage

#

Count as magic ?

grim spear
#

sure

strong cargo
#

Warrior/monk is a dps buff for you, but it doesn't make the spec bad if you don't have them

prisma yarrow
#

For sub
Its impossible
To play without skyfurry 0 energy u cannot press your buttons

grim spear
#

and assa needs shaman too

#

and drus

shell fossil
#

outlaw plays great with every comp tbh

prisma yarrow
#

They should not have revert the acidental extra 5% subtlety buff

shell fossil
#

but weaker specs probably hurt more

prisma yarrow
#

Than all 3 specs were fine

shell fossil
#

hard noped on a survival hunter yesterday

mighty pivot
#

wowhead comments are unhinged

#

100 million wow accounts HOLY

daring oxide
#

is those 98% players probably logged on the game once and leveled to level 2 and then stopped playing

#

but

#

kept paying subscription

#

its known that vast majority of WoW active accounts are ERPers who roleplay in goldshire inn all day long and when they venture into LFR to do group content you see them doing 100k to 500k dps

mighty pivot
#

goldshire ERPs are the backbone of wow

formal knot
#

just found out some people play this game without visiting goldshire

#

what's the point ???

daring oxide
#

well soon

#

there will be ERP clubs everywhere

#

when the housing rolls out

#

people will stop playing m+

formal knot
daring oxide
#

and only play wow housing

#

going to clubs for lap dances with blood elves and void elves

#

or tauren females

mighty pivot
#

no need to go to a dungeon when you have your own dungeon amirite

formal knot
#

99 parse in house furniture decoration

hybrid crown
#

I have spent tens of days of time played farting around in goldshire duelling people and doing nothing lol

daring oxide
#

99 parse in lap dancing

shell fossil
#

man

daring oxide
#

all the cities will be empty

#

everyone will be at the houses

hybrid crown
#

Goldshire is empty on my server now tho 😦

daring oxide
#

using pay to win brutosaur

#

for auction house and mail box

shell fossil
#

is that just retails numbers tho

#

probably not just active subs

mighty pivot
#

it will be garrison 2.0 city activity levels

daring oxide
#

wow doesn't actually have 100mil active subs though