#outlaw
proven ocean
cinder haven
Assa has way more viable talents to support for example
zealous plinth
Getting some ideas how I can optimize when back from vacation, ty Zac 😅
late swallow
hey tobfon 
cinder haven
That change priorities a fair bit
cinder haven
hey tobfon <:peeposmile:1187920406338867261>
Hello 
proven ocean
Issue could just be things that unlock new rotations like garrote no cooldown for example, subterfuge enabling more stealth uptime and double shiv as an extra button and IC allowing bleed spreads, however i think everything else should be functioning normally?
red zinc
cant wait to infest zeross’ lawn with goats when the housing update drops
proven ocean
Because what i noticed is that we had issues with all those talents above i mentioned when swapping to my build
vivid vessel
cant wait to infest zeross’ lawn with goats when the housing update drops
i will tag his house
with dicks
on his walls
cinder haven
Outlaw apl is a lot easier to work with, but much of that is due to how the spec works
vivid vessel
lime lake
proven ocean
Outlaw is quite simple, not really a complex rotation
Just a had to play properly spec
Hard
red zinc
limited slots guys only the house next to zac is available (you can smell the microwaved cheese)
vivid vessel
the eu rogue neighborhood is going to be so much better than the na one
with their 3 rogues
@late swallow you na ?
red zinc
ye
vivid vessel
see
late swallow
yeah we're NA chads
late swallow
EU neighborhood gonna fill up with refugees
red zinc
Ryu is going to be voted out of the NA hood day 1
cinder haven
Then we can have tc bbq instead of cooking sessions
proven ocean
I never saw NA rogues to play exceptionally other than the fact that they push keys well
late swallow
NA rogues are too busy working to make ends meet most of the time
proven ocean
He isnt bad hes just washed up
late swallow
EU rogues are unemployed
gaunt phoenix
ryu mute should be expired now
late swallow
oh shit ryu got muted?
proven ocean
ryu mute should be expired now
Wait
red zinc
such a nice 24h
gaunt phoenix
i did
lime lake
vivid vessel
proven ocean
No wonder it was so quite
vivid vessel
no wae
proven ocean
Holy shit
vivid vessel
whatr did i miss
vivid vessel
real
jolly geyser
I screenshotted it
late swallow
oh yeah the SA copypasta
gaunt phoenix
Uh he posted something crossing some lines
lime lake
late swallow
i have it saved in my folder
red zinc
or the genocide comments
proven ocean
U lied u didnt mute nobody
red zinc
Or the racism comments
proven ocean
I cant see it in ur logs
gaunt phoenix
It was in staff channel
red zinc
shocked it took this long honestly
proven ocean
Uh he posted something crossing some lines
Wait was he toxic or just rly weird?
gaunt phoenix
just weird
late swallow
ryu making it impossible to defend him anymore
proven ocean
He’s been really annoying lately
red zinc
or the election fraud comments
proven ocean
And i dont say that to anybody
vivid vessel
my king .. 
proven ocean
And i dont say that to anybody
Very rarely
red zinc
that man is a fucking bum im sorry
gaunt phoenix
Redemption arc
red zinc
WHEN YOU HIT ROCK BOTTOM YOU BETTER START DRILLING
late swallow
red zinc
late swallow
WHEN YOU HIT ROCK BOTTOM YOU BETTER START DRILLING
red zinc
gaunt phoenix
old bedrock 💯
proven ocean
Wdym old bedrock
gaunt phoenix
love classic minecraft
proven ocean
Did they change it???
gaunt phoenix
yer
red zinc
new textures are so much better than old wym
proven ocean
What
red zinc
theres like
red zinc
a few worse ones
red zinc
bro this happened in like 2017
frail veldt
Wtf
red zinc
gaunt phoenix
Yeah
frail veldt
What is new bedrock like?
gaunt phoenix
i dont mean bedrock the game version
vivid vessel
thius ?
gaunt phoenix
just the block texture
gaunt phoenix
what
vivid vessel
same
gaunt phoenix
am i crazy
vivid vessel
i cant find shit
gaunt phoenix
i've lost it
red zinc
Old vs new netherrack
vivid vessel
red zinc
Is crazy improvement though
vivid vessel
ye
lime lake
dense bolt
btw when are they going to remove racial stuff and everything that comes with it so i can be blood elf
anyone?
red zinc
dwarf clears
dense bolt
cant mog it and im losing my mind
vivid vessel
btw when are they going to remove racial stuff and everything that comes with it...
!ban @dense bolt racism
red zinc
my dwarf wears gay shoulders and a hat and nothing wlse
dense bolt
wtf !
red zinc
big mog
proven ocean
!ban <@314112931166027787> racism
!ban @vivid vessel anti racism to ur racism of a non racist comment!
potent latch
completed 5 mask solo run and most annoying thing was certain bosses reset when pressing vanish because they dont have true sight 😄
red zinc
yer
potent latch
blizzard hates outlaw
late swallow
ryu is that you?
gaunt phoenix
they did change it in 2019, barely
dense bolt
vivid vessel
dense bolt
solo can u start a ravbenholdt minecraft server
we can mine for some diamonds and shit u know
gaunt phoenix
there have been some in the past
vivid vessel
???
proven ocean
they did change it in 2019, barely
Theres no way u see the difference unless ur a r1 minecraft freakazoid multi r1 miner of all caves and diamonds
dense bolt
proven ocean
It looks the same
Wdym
Its just new graphics
Difference is like
A shit monitor vs oled monitor
crude anchor
idk u play minecraft as a kid
then u see it again as an adult
u do a double take and ur like oh maybe it changed
thats what happened to me
proven ocean
Yea i played minecraft when it wasnt even an infinite world
It was like
A small island
No diamonds
Only iron
crude anchor
LMFAO poverty minecraft
proven ocean
Yea
gaunt phoenix
It looks the same
ya almost
proven ocean
Lmao
vivid vessel
thats fake ?
dense bolt
crude anchor
my best friend played it too, would landscape the bedorkc surface
shit was hilarious
gaunt phoenix
They didnt change this block as much as i thought so im slightly cooked
proven ocean
vivid vessel
minecraft started and it alreayd was infinite wasnt it
hybrid crown
I played Minecraft when it was a browser game in like 2009
proven ocean
minecraft started and it alreayd was infinite wasnt it
Not on ipad
vivid vessel
wtf is ipda my guy
edgy phoenix
minecraft talk
crude anchor
nah u could play it on ipod
proven ocean
More cooked than mcdonalds egg
vivid vessel
bro played a knock off version of minecraft on god
red zinc
M+ pushers cant play minecraft
dense bolt
mine-raft
edgy phoenix
minecraft died when kohi shut down
dense bolt
ross built boats
slate goblet
Minecraft bedwars gamers can push keys tho
hybrid crown
You can just watch the movie that pretty much explains it
red zinc
Too many minor scandals already with them pushers
proven ocean
ross built boats
We dodnt even have boats back then
red zinc
Cant let them anywhere near more
proven ocean
Kinda funny
No coal i think too? Not sure
We did get diamonds and golds later on i think
World stayed too small
Oh and
dense bolt
did u play ptr or what
vivid vessel
proven ocean
There were no caves
dense bolt
i dont remember minecraft without diamonds
proven ocean
Cuz like
red zinc
Aliexpress minecraft
red zinc
Mobile wasnt
proven ocean
We were craving for caves we tried that copy of minecraft
red zinc
For a while
vivid vessel
who tf cares about mobile
proven ocean
To play it just for caves
red zinc
He played it on ipad
proven ocean
Yes mobile minecraft was different zac
red zinc
Is what he said
dense bolt
wait when did minecraft release
red zinc
2008?
vivid vessel
2009
proven ocean
?
crude anchor
laughing
proven ocean
U guys are so cooked
crude anchor
there were def ipads in 2009 guys
proven ocean
Its crazy
dense bolt
https://imgur.com/fxzRUE1 ross had the firs itteration of ipad
vivid vessel
U guys are so cooked
you dont even know what real minecraft is buddy
playuued on ipad
hybrid crown
I had a Motorola Razer back then
vivid vessel
i cba
hybrid crown
Best phone
vivid vessel
we were playing minecraft on cojmputer ytou werent even born buddy !
gaunt phoenix
I miss when mc took over the planet
red zinc
When are we getting the iFridge
bright crane
minecraft tauight us that getting rid of child labor was a mistake
bright crane
the children yearn for the mines
vivid vessel
When are we getting the iFridge
iCumCollector2000
crude anchor
yo on some real shit, guys what cpu do u guys have
i need to buy a new cpu cuz my raid fps is actually just shit
red zinc
iCumCollector2000
Thats zeross
proven ocean
I was a big minecraft gamer
dense bolt
https://imgur.com/fjAMUp2 saving for later
red zinc
Napoleon was taking over europe in 1800
red zinc
the minecraft > outlaw pipeline is real
proven ocean
Dont think anyone knows what ur talking about
torpid fiber
https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Java_Edition_Classic
I remember playing this on the website
I was addicted to minecraft but dogshit at it tbh
I just watched infinite YouTube videos
cinder haven
Having played wow the longest is of course the most important metric for success
dense bolt
LOL
past falcon
i used to religiously watch captainsparklez letsplays
torpid fiber
how can you be dogshit at minecraft
bro I injured myself irl playing terraria when my own pet spooked me
vivid vine
...
dense bolt
ross tried to place circles in a square game
red zinc
dense bolt
vivid vessel
bro I injured myself irl playing terraria when my own pet spooked me
skill issue
torpid fiber
I was somehow bad at minecraft peaceful i knew all the shit but never made anything cool
torpid fiber
skill issue
That was exactly my point
proven ocean
Having played wow the longest is of course the most important metric for success
gaunt phoenix
one of these is not like the other
vivid vessel
one of these is not like the other
why do you have bf
are you not tired of writting bf pins
red zinc
that shit is in faq a gazillion times
gaunt phoenix
i guess from the pin
dense bolt
??
torpid fiber
I have the world's worst frequently used
dense bolt
ur a wizzard harry
gaunt phoenix
🧙♂️
torpid fiber
wordle and dominofit
vivid vessel
🏄♀️
hot olive
proven ocean
is my most used emote
vivid vessel
👍
🏄♀️ 🏄♀️
proven ocean
Jk
vivid vessel
gaunt phoenix
dense bolt
vivid vessel
???
red zinc
vivid vessel
BIG COCK?
gaunt phoenix
red zinc
🤤
vivid vessel
thats not a big cock brudha
dense bolt
🥸
leaden folio
vivid vessel
🦚
leaden folio
(im late)
red zinc
Yall ever just 🤤
dense bolt
🎉
dense bolt
dense bolt
vivid vessel
red zinc
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1014354035526090843/1255113639950553108/tww-killing-spree.gif
leaden folio
https://tenor.com/view/edict-edictguild-gif-25900451
dense bolt
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1014354035526090843/1255113639950553108/t...
yo thats crazy
hot olive
why zac zero 20 but not me
lime lake
vivid vessel
idk what this means
torpid fiber
wtf Zac only 20 I thought he was way older
hot olive
20 keys
hot olive
ik saw ur rank 2
vivid vessel
ye big right
hot olive
im doing 16s🫡
red zinc
If I had your gear (1 more ilvl) id time 20s too
vivid vessel
idk i usualy dont have much keys done compared to other high key pushers
but thats cause i work
frail veldt
Skip the line
vivid vessel
most of them are unenployed
late swallow
Built diff
frail veldt
I guess that doesn't count failed keys
vivid vessel
no
frail veldt
most of them are unenployed
So true
vivid vessel
but like the other rogues are at 200 +15 for examples
vivid vessel
tf is 25+ keysstones
leaden folio
leaden folio
hakerman
dense bolt
guys lock in geo finals right now
haughty galleon
OLLAH amigos! or how ever you say it!. so ive started trying to get into the "ratatata" spec for rogue today.. and erh i sorta get the gist of it, but quite frankly .. im terrible at it. and i would love to ask if i have understood the upcomming part correct, and if there is a (prefered video) guide that goes over it like im a mentally challenged toddler. now the part im not sure if i get correctly and if thats what impacts my terribleness. i need to use adr rush on cd and within the adr rush i use vanish with pewpew eyes. i use blade flurry on cd to make sure its up. roll the bones whenever the buff expire if good, reroll asap if shite. killing spree when not in adr rush and at max combo points pistol shot only when it procs otherwise sinist strike. is that the rotation simplified but correct?
prisma heron
What missives should my crafted stuff have?
glass mortar
you use killing spree on cd outside vanish windows
not when adr is down
(adr should basically never be down)
gaunt phoenix
The #outlaw-faq has a simplified priority
glass mortar
unfortunatly theres not really any video guides i know of to recoomend at the moment but the FaQ is very good
gaunt phoenix
you dont blade flurry on cooldown, unless you have the deft maneuvers talent, which the standard HO build does not use
blade flurry is just a buff that is maintained, usually for a long time
if you are playing the HO build (which you should when new) then Ambush is the priority builder when it is available
which is during stealth windows or with audacity proc
prisma heron
So if I have 20% standard haste, I swap to crit/vers?
gaunt phoenix
yes, crafted will be haste vers or crit vers depending on what you need
haughty galleon
you use killing spree on cd outside vanish windows
ok! i do have downtime frankly, i often just spend 2-3 gcds just sinisters triking
haughty galleon
you dont blade flurry on cooldown, unless you have the deft maneuvers talent, wh...
i see! ok so just to maintain! il remember i did spam it when i could as i believed i would gain c points.
haughty galleon
The <#856897810536071208> has a simplified priority
i read it a few times. but i work best with audiotory guides as i can pull in the practice while getting told how much of a dumb knob i am
gaunt phoenix
don't know of a proper video guide really
that is not just generic content creator slop
fallen knot
@vivid vessel you there
frail veldt
Vers bracers
frail veldt
That's a lot
fallen knot
yea i started playing the rogue last week
yesterday i got 5myth items in a 3/8m+dinar
frail veldt
Jeez
fallen knot
and i have 6crafts but will only do 5 because everything else is myth already
haughty galleon
don't know of a proper video guide really
oh:(
prisma heron
Kir cleave is the build for m+?
gaunt phoenix
you can play HO or KIR
gaunt phoenix
they are similar
frail veldt
KiR is only better if you play it well
gaunt phoenix
dont be fooled by KIR taking over higher keys
prisma heron
Got it
gaunt phoenix
it's a lot of work for little gain
vivid vine
ngl a 5 buff into kir into another kir feels real good
daring oxide
Bro this is brilliant @proven ocean what you got to say huh?
late swallow
vapid sundial
young lion
Hey everyone,
Id like to swap for outlaw cuz spec seem really cool :) what should i aim for first in terms of craft and dungeon loots ?
heres my assa stuff
gaunt phoenix
could craft a ring to replace jastor
west dirge
do you have main hand sword or anything other than dagger?
young lion
nop, im currently farming the token for Nightfall curseblade, and then will do some 12s to craft a sword
gaunt phoenix
if you play the HO build you will want closer to 15% haste though it's not an exact number
young lion
i don't really know difference between the two builds, is there a generic one for m+ ?
im pushing 17
gaunt phoenix
mainhand, replace mastery with vers (mainly rings), get a bit more haste
bright crane
HO is the easier build
young lion
okay, i will start with this one then and learn the other later
so, i replace both weapon, craft a ring, recraft other craft into haste/versa and im good to go ?
bright crane
Depends
If you have enough haste
You may need to recraft more to haste/vers
Ol kinda requires you hit the haste req
The ol haste tax
west dirge
also for pushing m+ you switch nightfall cudgel with your dagger (cudgel for trash and dagger for bosses)
wild rivet
Is gushing wound still the corruption enchant we want?
gaunt phoenix
Is gushing wound still the corruption enchant we want?
Dev is better but it pulls shit so
gushing it is
young lion
also for pushing m+ you switch nightfall cudgel with your dagger (cudgel for tra...
nice tips
wild rivet
Dev is better but it pulls shit so
does it pull often? lmao
west dirge
in pins there is also macro for that ready, just need to switch dagger (off hand weapon name) with what you have
gaunt phoenix
depends
gaunt phoenix
i played it for like 9 keys and then it happened
then gushing is 0.3% worse so w.e
crystal finch
I'm starting a new outlaw rogue and was checking the pins, and it recommends capo even if it's heroic but then goes on to say that the nightfall is 1-1.5% ahead from hc capo? I'm a bit confused 😢
fallen knot
does it pull often? lmao
just tell tank not to play giga near non-wanted packs
cause you just probably ninjapull by proximity with ks anyways
gaunt phoenix
I'm starting a new outlaw rogue and was checking the pins, and it recommends cap...
nightfall is used on packs only
not bosses
in keys you quite literally swap weapons
before bosses
wild rivet
in keys you quite literally swap weapons
no shot lmao optimization is to leave the key and come back
crystal finch
alrighty that makes sense then, thanks mate! so the first order of business is to get a capo with dinars and get my trinkets later
gaunt phoenix
no shot lmao optimization is to leave the key and come back
no you can freely swap weapons in keys
wild rivet
orlly?
gaunt phoenix
you just hit a macro
fallen knot
even during combat you can
wild rivet
i thought u couldnt change anything
fallen knot
(i think)
gaunt phoenix
you can in combat yes
It's a gcd so if you need to do it in combat, then do it during killing spree
gaunt phoenix
yer
gaunt phoenix
i always forget to swap so it happens a lot
fallen knot
solo one thing i dont get
the buffs from trickster
the yellow one and the icon that looks like an old pvp spell
do i need to track them?
gaunt phoenix
you dont track flawless form
fallen knot
and the other one?=
gaunt phoenix
You need to track when coup de grace is ready/almost ready
and optimally you track when you have a guarnateed unseen blade
fallen knot
ok
gaunt phoenix
west dirge
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
Guy's - Afenar's Edit 
Luxthos Edit
Zac's Group 
Devlin
Utilities:
Combo Point Standalone
Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
Ace refund sound trigger
RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
Unseen Blade tracker
Fun:
Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
KS Ticking damage taken
fallen knot
yea i havent really read in-depth trickster stuff
why is unseen blade important
that i need to track when ready
gaunt phoenix
its a minmax
unseen blade is only consumed by ambush/ss
consuming unseen blade builds towards being able to cast coup de grace
there are moments where the normal builder priority can be shifted to consume unseen blades, mostly for KIR 1 FTH
gaunt phoenix
2 unseen blades are granted by killing spree, and unseen blade has a chance to reset on its own
fallen knot
or like actually 4?
no
5
no idea, but i got it, you might want to press another ss to build instead of free 2cp from opportunity
gaunt phoenix
the KIR build will simply prioritize SS if you have unseen blades waiting to be consumed
There is a pin about it
fallen knot
if that is coming back off cooldown
ok
i'm still playing ho cause i'm at 15%haste flasked
when i actually get some proper stats with rings and other gear i'll get into kir
gaunt phoenix
HO can prioritize SS if you have at 3 escalating blades and unseen blade is ready, and you dont have max opportunity
fallen knot
cause ho has the highest highs, but when you roll 1 buff 6 times in a raw you just want to go in a corner and cry
gaunt phoenix
basically HO build plays normally most of the time but occasionally can catch moments where you trigger coup
It plays very nice actually
fallen knot
i'm pretty sure i miss coupe casts cause i'm not tracking it
mighty pivot
cause ho has the highest highs, but when you roll 1 buff 6 times in a raw you ju...
cto resolves that for HO if you are ok with dropping GS
fallen knot
probably deleted it from afenar group last season
fallen knot
cto resolves that for HO if you are ok with dropping GS
i just had it happen in last boss of dfc and couldnt double strike ss
minor fossil
hi guys , i was thinking about something in the rota , when u use between the eyes in ambush , you do it only when u're under adre buff ?
fallen knot
i was basically afk there
gaunt phoenix
you only vanish with adrenaline rush active
minor fossil
ty , does someone got a good weakaura with between the eyes buff tracker ?
gaunt phoenix
You dont really need to track bte buff
minor fossil
y i guess you dont rly need to x)
gaunt phoenix
you can basically take any buff weakaura and clone it
tidal monolith
@vivid vessel i need that sexy details import code my brother 😄
vivid vessel
reef forge
is cudgel not worth using if you also use zee thugline?
valid wadi
little question
If I'm at 5 combo points and have an Audacity ambush proc outside of crackshot window, do I spend a 5cp dispatch and ambush after to prevent overcapping or do I build to 7?
white marten
!WA
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
sullen wyvern
I feel that I fugged up
I never considered junkmaestros magnet trinket
now I simm it and simms are telling me to use that and vex trinket, I bought pacemaker myth track instead
acoustic mason
Hey, do you guys have any tips on how to approach learning the rotation? I have the feeling that playing with hekili doesnt really teach me anything. I roughly understand the priorities but it feels super overwhelming especially with the KIR build. :/
gaunt phoenix
If I'm at 5 combo points and have an Audacity ambush proc outside of crackshot w...
you finish
sullen wyvern
yeah
acoustic mason
How do I know if I do it right? Im not really into the simming/logging game
sullen wyvern
but if you wanna play KIR just hit the dummies for a good minute until at least you develop muscle memory
red zinc
How do I know if I do it right? Im not really into the simming/logging game
AR uptime is a good meter
sullen wyvern
yeah, if you fuck up you will have a lot of AR downtime
acoustic mason
Aah okay thats helpful. Honestly I dont really see how I can develop muscle memory for this but I guess its just like driving a car :D
Is it possible to post a log to get help here when I feel like I dont know what Im doing wrong?
sullen wyvern
There are a couple guys here that can help you with that
not me, I'm too dumb to know how to read logs
acoustic mason
Haha okay, but I think this was good advice for the beginning ty!
sullen wyvern
KiR is more complex, like they said above, I'd suggest to go with HO first
HO is pretty stragith forward
acoustic mason
Okay, Ill try that one first.
warm remnant
why is outlaw unironically hella good in priory
sullen wyvern
If you haven't checked we have a FAQ section you can check for the rules for each build
copper radish
HO is pretty stragith forward
HO i slam 1,2 or 3 GG
glass mortar
why is outlaw unironically hella good in priory
PC deletes the first boss
might be the best sustain 2t spec in the game tbh
fallen knot
btw sometimes bladeflurry falls off even with adr active, how can i make it not happen
it's rare
but happens
remote pecan
Just recast it? 
vivid vessel
unbind your cancel aura bf button
proven ocean
@vivid vessel
im convinced outlaw is replacement of udk in melee comps
sin over mage
and warrior is the druid buff guy
cuz ngl ur aoe is exactly same as udk in high keys
its shit in low keys tho i think
i think ur abit stealing dps cuz theres no turbo op class in the game atm
vivid vessel
i am ye
vivid vessel
but thats something that happens with every spec tho
like
whatever spec is at the top
steal damage from the other
because they do more damage
proven ocean
cuz when i play with udk i do alot more
vivid vessel
i think thats just a wow thing
fallen knot
i'm no troll i dont have cancelaura macro
vivid vessel
ye idk
proven ocean
i think im playing very well not sure why my aoe isn't that ahead
proven ocean
outlaw is our execute atm
udk bloodbeast used to be our execute but that got nerfed alot
fallen knot
dont you play the sudden demise thing
proven ocean
i think execute is rly good in keys
and outlaw has it
i dont think ppl realize that
outlaw has the biggest execute in m+
glass mortar
thats a bit of a misnomer because people will be confused but ye u could think of PC as a form of execute
glass mortar
obviously no execute on bosses
west dirge
its because it does exactly ST dmg to 8 mobs at the time?
proven ocean
thats a bit of a misnomer because people will be confused but ye u could think o...
it is an execute for m+ packs
its not misleading what im saying
glass mortar
but in higher keys where every pack is beyond PCs target cap PC is an insanely powerful "Execute"
proven ocean
because im certain of it
proven ocean
but in higher keys where every pack is beyond PCs target cap PC is an insanely p...
outlaw does less dps in low keys because it has less PC uptime
glass mortar
hmm
fallen knot
with pc that is
proven ocean
@vivid vessel i think with PC working now we can finally say outlaw is way better in higher keys than in lower keys
glass mortar
i think everyone does less dps in lower keys do to smaller pulls period but if u are doing small pulls as law in lower keys u have PC permanetly active
fallen knot
answer
glass mortar
so i think u lose less then most specs lose in those types of keys
fallen knot
how does bladeflurry choose
glass mortar
i mean i can do 5.3-5.5m overall in +10s now where packs live 5s with bursters
fallen knot
like there's 12 mobs
proven ocean
does bladeflurry prio low health mobs
knowing that it used to target dead bodies not so long ago theres not a single person to possibly know that
but
one piece of info i can give you
fallen knot
half are low health
proven ocean
is that
glass mortar
BF damage is based on proximity to you
fallen knot
6 low health
glass mortar
nothing else
fallen knot
and 2 no low health
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> i think with PC working now we can finally say outlaw is w...
i mena outlaw does more dps in lower keys tho
fallen knot
but does it actually
glass mortar
thats why u need to wiggle around in mass pulls
proven ocean
warrior cleave which hits 1 additional mob (sweeping strikes) always targets the same mob and never changes unless you move out of melee or the mob moves out of melee,
vivid vessel
like people doing 10s almsot outdamage me ross
proven ocean
warrior cleave which hits 1 additional mob (sweeping strikes) always targets the...
could be same wiht bladeflurry
fallen knot
solo we need you
fallen knot
how does bladeflurry choose
glass mortar
it isnt that
proven ocean
idk why u need solo xd
glass mortar
cudgel shows us it doesnt work like that
if it worked like that u wouldnt be able to get cudgel to hit all 15 mobs without leaving melee range
of the ones it initially hit
u can make it hit the whole pack by wiggling like 1 foot
its just proximity based
proven ocean
bf is closests mobs
ig maybe arms is the same
because in workshop u know the 3 mobs?
arms doesnt cleave the other 2 mobs evenly
it cuts down 1 mob so hard
fallen knot
mmhm
proven ocean
and the 3rd one stays highhp
runic bough
!wa
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Class packs:
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Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
proven ocean
so i have to funnel it down again
vivid vessel
its 7 - target around you * 5
so like on 2 targets
you cleave at
6*5
so 50% base bf + 35%
and then every target you add is less
proven ocean
u know what else is less
fallen knot
ok then
proven ocean
my balls inside of ur ass
fallen knot
i legit
thought it was healthbased okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
glass mortar
????
fallen knot
like
jolly geyser
I cant read
fallen knot
probably since like
proven ocean
I cant read
we know that ralmu
fallen knot
df s3 i've had this information wrong
i thought the less health the mobs hit by bf the more the bf damage
proven ocean
zeross cant type
IT WAS ON PURPOSE OK
fallen knot
well gg me i should read talents
leaden folio
now he is pepega
jolly geyser
all rogues pepega at heart
haughty wigeon
see what happens when you dont read spells
wow players and reading
red zinc
https://wago.io/CSNR9cFbK
do i need to import some other shit
to make this work
it aint lookin like that
oh wait that was just the shitty ass text size from my blind guy profile nevermind
haughty galleon
hasty warren
yo pirates
wintry solar
Least cooked wowhead take
stuck timber
guys what is the macro for swapping between capo and event weapon
wintry solar
yo pirates
How'd you know I'm downloading Sea of Theives?
red zinc
it is in the pins
hasty warren
guys what is the macro for swapping between capo and event weapon
look at pins
hasty warren
How'd you know I'm downloading Sea of Theives?
best game
wintry solar
Made me exhale through my nose sharply
vivid vessel
!up
ornate heathBOT
hasty warren
Made me exhale through my nose sharply
red zinc
!up
did that feral from your guild give you my best wishes
i told him to
he better have
sly cairn
is there a good outlaw m+ guide that goes through what my job as a outlaw rogue is?
fallen knot
motherlode is fucking weird btw
on 1st pull like
i sent 4 ks
all went on cd
and the cast did not go off
civic void
you had some shit evading in the pull for sure
fallen knot
ok
vivid vessel
ye
red zinc
big swag
tender wedge
big goro energy
warped spruce
Why do i have 4 swords
ive been having the same bug for a few weeks now
west dirge
why have 2 when can have 4
dark fractal
visual moat
why there are some ppl using house of cards? and is a good idea to use a mythic track one over mythic keys and junkmaestro's?
vivid vessel
when was the AR thing added
scaling with haste
hasty void
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
vivid vessel
or just normal
cause gcd reduction has alwyas been there
since i started the game in sl at least
young lion
Hey guys, quick question, the thing with nightfall curseblade is that we use it in mainhand for trash and offhand for bosses right ?
vivid vessel
Hey guys, quick question, the thing with nightfall curseblade is that we use it ...
off hand only
dont use on bosses
doesnt owrk
young lion
aight thanks
unreal swift
scaling with haste
scaling with haste part
thanks
and whats the logic behind the haste breakpoints in the wowhead guide
vivid vessel
!haste
ornate heathBOT
Total stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.
*But Haste has a **requirement ** because 
Adrenaline Rush lowers your GCD based on it, down to 0.8s at 25% haste.
The 
KIR build wants 18-20% haste from rating, because its only haste buff is from 
Alacrity.
The 
HO build meets this requirement with 8-10% haste from rating because of 
Take 'em by Surprise, but the new HO + Supercharger build continues to like Haste just because of energy, so you will have to sim. Your sim may settle for KIR-levels of haste (~18%) or slightly lower.
You need to use 
Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use.
You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.
unreal swift
thanks
so the logic is to reach 25% haste
and different builds have different haste from other sources
ty
crystal finch
Hey folks, I don't really understand why people go for shoulders for the tier piece. I mean for shoulders you have vers/haste shoulder available, or if not you can always craft. Isn't it better to ditch the shoulder piece to get rid of the crit, and get the chest piece which at least has vers on it?
unreal swift
it started scaling with haste in tww tho yes
so it used to scale down to 0.8 for free, now it requires 25% haste?
keen belfry
im gonna play some wow rn
visual moat
why there are some ppl using house of cards? and is a good idea to use a mythic track one over mythic keys and junkmaestro's?
cinder relic
why there are some ppl using house of cards? and is a good idea to use a mythic ...
It's alright for bigger pulls
valid kindle
keys is also sketch in some dungeons, doesn't hit last boss rookery for example
fallen knot
ok outlaw is fun
frail veldt
keys is also sketch in some dungeons, doesn't hit last boss rookery for example
p sure it does
fallen knot
gg i reroll outlaw
frail veldt
it must be certain angles cuz mine def be hittin
fallen knot
i actually might
valid kindle
p sure it does
maybe there's a spot where it does but I've failed to hit it last time I was there
vivid vessel
it must be certain angles cuz mine def be hittin
i think unless you are doing mdi pulls
its better
i have seen some dks hitting infinite numbers that i could never hit
but
you dont need to pull 30 mobs per pack
to time keys rn
if you just build a phys comp
and pull normally
outlawi s better imo
fallen knot
it's also reasonable
red zinc
A story in 2 parts
fallen knot
like you dont need a billion stops
red zinc
frail veldt
to time keys rn
ive been telling my tanks this
fallen knot
cilecca-nemesis @vivid vessel
frail veldt
im still just doing pug low keys but even in 17s you can do no big pulls and time a key
red zinc
ye
fallen knot
pretty sure even in 20s
like not everypull a big pull
zac timed motherlode20 under 4mins and they didnt do degen pulls
red zinc
priory is annoying the fuck out of me man
such an easy key being made much harder
why would anyone ever invite mm on that key in 17s
acoustic wing
why i should not use Vanish if AR is about to expire
red zinc
you should
frail veldt
why i should not use Vanish if AR is about to expire
other way around
you SHOULD use it if Adr is about to expire(less than 3/4 seconds left)
frail veldt
why would anyone ever invite mm on that key in 17s
wdym
I feel like MM is decent in priory
vivid vine
i mean that's just hunter in general tbh
red zinc
he had 6 deaths
vivid vine
most of the are drooling
frail veldt
thats just a player issue yeah
red zinc
yeah but thats a most player issue
red zinc
like if you're playing "phys comp" i dont get why you'd take the variance on these hunters
frail veldt
similar class
alpine valve
Hello, anyone has a WA for subterfuge window with sound?
frail veldt
Hello, anyone has a WA for subterfuge window with sound?
!wa
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Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
vivid vine
hunter and rets are the most popular classes/spec i think
always flooded with them in lfg
frail veldt
all of those packages should have a subterfuge wa
youll need to pull it out of the package though
frail veldt
hunter and rets are the most popular classes/spec i think
its ret by far
by like
a HUGE margin
alpine valve
Overread that. Tank you
valid kindle
ret most popular spec but I think hunter is a more popular class than pala
at least now that prot isn't fotm, s1 may have been a different story
frail veldt
I think paladin wins ever so slightly
this is heroic raid only but a decent reflection of player pop imo
red zinc
ill lowkey invite bm hunters over marksman hunters
frail veldt
I wont lol
valid kindle
I thought sv would contribute ever so slightly more lmao
frail veldt
fuck a bm hunter
vivid vine
heroic logs would be better representation of player pop than mythic logs for sure
valid kindle
what was he even complaining about? besides pulling trash onto the first boss there's nothing that special for mm there
red zinc
feels a lot less paddy than mm too
red zinc
what was he even complaining about? besides pulling trash onto the first boss th...
he died with all deffies up multiple times it was just a skill issue he was trying to pawn off on the healer
frail veldt
outlaw doesnt really pad does it
vivid vine
dark ranger mm has decent prio i believe
red zinc
mistype
frail veldt
cuz it doesnt lose st damage to do aoe
valid kindle
workshop is the one key where bm and mm are basically even so there's that
frail veldt
Id argue ret is the most pad spec
worldly shale
Id argue ret is the most pad spec
ret is the most ret spec
vivid vessel
outlaw doesnt really pad does it
outlaw is one of the only spec in the game that by definition cannot pad
frail veldt
ye
vivid vessel
banger spec !
frail veldt
ethical dps
red zinc
mm+outlaw just feels like the small mobs die for no real added value
with a spec with slightly more prio those smallies would die anyway and the prio target would die faster
alls that to say
fuck french hunters
craggy barn
i pad the meters by killing adds before anyone else can do damage
vivid vine
i know it's bad but i do avoid hyjal and dalaran
but whole of lfg avoids me so i guess i lose
heavy horizon
Dal the new rag?
vivid vine
kazzak is up there aswell
reef forge
in dfc cart area after 3rd boss are you guys just following tank, dpsing and praying someone walks the cart?
vivid vine
i let the range chill in the cart and run around with a candle
craggy barn
u could depends on if u need kicks or not
if u dont need kicks u can help tank gather
or just follow with candle
reef forge
such a boring dungeon after second boss
wintry solar
RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
wintry solar
Time to lock the fuck in scallywags
gloomy roost
im currently using hc capo MH / cudgel OH, should i craft a weapon and start weapon swapping?
gaunt phoenix
nah you can keep capo
red zinc
huh
gaunt phoenix
@gloomy roost absolutely craft a main hand
gloomy roost
LOL sir yes sir
vivid vine
surely i won't forget now
keen belfry
@vivid vessel im learning
gaunt phoenix
ya
wintry solar
Roll The Bones reference
gaunt phoenix
i mean it's not crazy good
its just more gooderer than the rest of the shit trinkets
gaunt phoenix
Ratfang toxin is similar
stuck sparrow
Yeah ratfang is funny
because you get the stacks pretty much instant
garbagemancer is allegedly ok after they buffed the ball to not spend 10seconds to fall down
strong wraith
Make Killing Spree aoe pistols plz, Solo.
gaunt phoenix
on it
strong wraith
Ty ty
keen belfry
solo
what would you say our variance is on like a 3 min st pull
kir 1fth
or, lets say PSF first boss 2t cleave
crystal finch
I know what the pinned says for dinar but I still want to ask: got hc capo (probs wont get myth), is getting crowd favorite that dumb or should I get pacemaker or smthn from the m+ pool instead
tender wedge
i think spending on crowd fav is a bit silly when you can craft at 681 or just farm the easy boss (unless you're extending)
hybrid crown
Maybe you could do all 12s and go get that axe from rookery
gaunt phoenix
so most pulls will be within +/- 7.5% dps, more rarely within +/- 15% @keen belfry
tender wedge
its not so much the weapon itself, it's spending a dinar on something you can get (or an alternative) really easily
crystal finch
yeah I know, I was thinking the same thing 😦 pacemaker it is then
keen belfry
so most pulls will be within +/- 7.5% dps, more rarely within +/- 15% <@17796403...
this seems pretty right
tender wedge
you really want to use dinar on something that you would struggle to get otherwise e.g. the "rare" drops, or trinkets with high demand, or m+ stuff you'd otherwise be relying on vault for
crystal finch
yeah that's reasonable, thanks a lot mate!
umbral solstice
!wa
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Class packs:
- Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
- Zac's Group Devlin
Utilities: - Combo Point Standalone
- Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
- Ace refund sound trigger
- RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
- Unseen Blade tracker
Fun: - Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
- KS Ticking damage taken
tired marlin
