outlaw

[fallow hinge]

useful tech to have in your back pocket, esp with visions coming back

[limpid plank]

can i make it so that killing spree doesnt give me motion sickness, the camera cuts are obnoxious

[latent oak]

cool mounts tho

[fallow hinge]

yup, play fatebound or a diff rogue spec

[wintry solar]

There's a wa that makes your screen black

[glass mortar]

theres a WA that turns ur whole screen black during it

[latent oak]

bet they go well with ur vulpera

[glass mortar]

idk where it is tho

[valid kindle]

abandoning pet is also insta if you need to swap and don't care about hurting the feelings of the pixel animal

[fallow hinge]

weak aura probably

[glass mortar]

and thats just about it

[valid kindle]

couldn't do it myself though

[haughty wigeon]

REALLY?

they brought that back

[fallow hinge]

I would die for all of my pixel animals

[haughty wigeon]

thats cool

[wintry solar]

I could never

[haughty wigeon]

i never understood why they took pet role specing out in legion

[wintry solar]

I'm emotionally invested in every single animal

[fallow hinge]

^

[valid kindle]

understandable

[fallow hinge]

Despite them all having the same name (for Details consolidation, makes a cleaner breakdown)

[wintry solar]

Breakdown?

Metal?

[desert tendon]

you can pet me

and feed me

[fallow hinge]

when you click it to see the bigger window

[desert tendon]

i ll be a happi pet

[fallow hinge]

ur already guarding my map room

[wintry solar]

https://tenor.com/view/metalcore-asking-alexandria-breakdown-metal-gif-794654536342808050

[fallow hinge]

I repaired your armour

[desert tendon]

oh yea true, i m already a slave

forgot

[wintry solar]

Bro forgor

[fallow hinge]

I give you food every time I go through the Abbey

[desert tendon]

yea u know why i forgot

[wintry solar]

Why

[desert tendon]

because being a slave at liz's place

[wintry solar]

Comes with perks

[desert tendon]

is heaven

[fallow hinge]

and you saved me from a Warden earlier

[desert tendon]

i m enjoying my time there

it feels like vacation

cuz it s a good place

[fallow hinge]

that's why I repaired your armour

[desert tendon]

[fallow hinge]

you soaked like 3 sonic blasts for me

[desert tendon]

oh shoot i m really strong then

[fallow hinge]

wolf armour op

[desert tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/ghast-baby-ghast-happy-ghast-minecraft-gif-9640938056201017792

[haughty wigeon]

i can have this guy as my tank pet again

[desert tendon]

i need happi ghast

asap

[haughty wigeon]

thats so cool ngl

[fallow hinge]

me too

looking forward to happy ghasts in modded

[desert tendon]

i tried in the snapshot and built a house made of little happi ghasts

[fallow hinge]

I bet Create's gonna do some nutty things with happy ghasts

[wintry solar]

Me when the goth girl keeps me in her basement (I have food, water and enrichment with fully working facilities.)

[desert tendon]

what you expecting liz

what are your predictions

[fallow hinge]

Ghast tethers being usable in place of minecarts to mount contraptions to the ghast

[desert tendon]

oooh

[wintry solar]

My friends will make one 9/11 joke about a ghast hitting a second village and they'll reference it for 7 months

[desert tendon]

i just want happi ghast to have an easier time to build

cuz doing the scale i m sometimes facing with fucking scaffoldings

sucks ass

[fallow hinge]

yeah they look like a really good angel block in vanilla compromise

It'd be cool if we could build on the happy ghasts while they're stationary

like use them to place blocks in the air

as opposed to just mobile scaffold

[desert tendon]

i made half a dozen of 25 tall trunks liz

cant wait to dress them with leaf

[fallow hinge]

I'm hunting every armour trim atm

[desert tendon]

but i only have 2 shulkers of leaves, i dont think that will be enough yet

you re brave

i tried some archeology

[wintry solar]

I wonder if there's a way to mod twilight princess to have raytracing

[desert tendon]

shit is boring

[fallow hinge]

I have most of them

[desert tendon]

must be with emulators

twilight realm with raytricing

my gosh

lemme check internet

[fallow hinge]

I need the bastion one, the nether fortress one, one of the trail ruins ones, the rare ancient city one and I think that's it

[wintry solar]

ITS A THING

[fallow hinge]

maybe one more

[desert tendon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvsUtwSsqvo

[cedar kernel]

imo i just think

[desert tendon]

well you have reshades

[late swallow]

let's keep the chatter wow-related guys

[cedar kernel]

outlaw need to have a huge rework

[desert tendon]

the game looks so weird in 4k

[fallow hinge]

outlaw needs to be a ranged pistol spec :>

[wintry solar]

Kinda

[cedar kernel]

dev should consider whether we should be bound to vanish

[wintry solar]

Yeah idk if I like it lol

[late swallow]

piss and stool spec?

[cedar kernel]

as a small burst spec

[desert tendon]

that s the hardest ones i guess

gl on your hunt

[fallow hinge]

the 1.8% ancient city one? ye I've raided 3 cities already

[desert tendon]

i was just trying to get all the pot stuff to be able to sell, but holy shit that s boring

[cedar kernel]

or we become a proc spec and keep doing dmg rely on proc like gsw?

[wintry solar]

I'm gonna need a 5090 for Zelda

[fallow hinge]

oh, I need both trial chamber ones too

[cedar kernel]

bro i cant forget gsw

[desert tendon]

how do you deal with wardens? Are you spells too powerfull for the dude or is it still a bit of a challenge?

but it s at least duable

[wintry solar]

You just might have to. Current outlaw can't work with it.

[fallow hinge]

ranged break spell on the shriekers mostly stops them spawning, but yeah my bow's pretty damn strong too

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[wintry solar]

You have to drop Ace and the spec is too reliant on it

[desert tendon]

asking cuz i hate doing the lame way of stucking it

[proven ocean]

BRO

RAIDER IO ADS

ARE SO ANNOYING

THEY STARTED PLAYING MUSIC THAT ARE SO LOUDU

???????????????????????????????????????????????????

[wintry solar]

Don't be a raider io nerd. Problem solved

[fallow hinge]

the trapdoor observers?

[brittle pelican]

can we do solo LFR for dragonflight yet?

[desert tendon]

take care exploring then, come home with results

[haughty wigeon]

IS THAT

[fallow hinge]

yeah they're easy they just take time

[haughty wigeon]

the mexican music i heard 2 seconds ago while raiding??

[proven ocean]

IDK

[haughty wigeon]

i have it open

[proven ocean]

EITHERWAY IM MAD CUZ I HAVE NOTHING TO BE MAD ABOUT SO I'LL JUST GO TO BED OK

GN

!

[haughty wigeon]

gn

[fallow hinge]

but yeah they do hurt if one of them's on me and I don't have a distraction

[desert tendon]

with a clock that spawn a warden from a far away loaded chunk every less than 10s ish

[fallow hinge]

I can live like, 2 blasts without ducking and running

and 3 melees

[fallow hinge]

oh, Ilmango's warden switch

yeah that one sucks

[desert tendon]

yea i like the danger sometimes

also

i realised something today liz

i ve planned a... let s say kinda big building or facilities, call that whatever. And in crea i dont really go lazy on the items cuz i know i can farm them easily if i take the time to

so

i need a ghast farm

and to kill the dragon 78 times

fucking eggs

[fallow hinge]

lel

[desert tendon]

idk if it s still duplicable, but we ve forbidden to use the end portal for stuff for now

[fallow hinge]

take some of my eggs, I have like 3k of them by now

[desert tendon]

you op op

[fallow hinge]

accidental farm lelelel

[desert tendon]

oh yea i remember this story

[glass mortar]

i need to finish making my base with my roommate in dragonwilds but he keeps playing marvel rivals every night 😠

[fallow hinge]

o shit I should play more overwatch

[glass mortar]

we left it halfway done

[fallow hinge]

I wanted a galactic weapon

[desert tendon]

btw liz

i m reinstalling ow tomorrow

[wintry solar]

I wish there was an option to turn off operator skins in cod

[desert tendon]

but...

[wintry solar]

Been playing a lot of bo6 lately

[fallow hinge]

but?

[wintry solar]

Butt

[desert tendon]

https://x.com/OWCavalry/status/1924497175242793426

Overwatch Cavalry (@OWCavalry) on X

New #Overwatch2 x Street Fighter 6 Skin: Cammy Widowmaker 🐝

💥 Enter the fight TOMORROW!

X · May 19, 2025, 4:07 PM

butt

exactly

[fallow hinge]

hm

[wintry solar]

Yummy

[desert tendon]

how did they get a collab

[fallow hinge]

is that hellboy's glove?

[desert tendon]

with sf

https://www.streetfighter.com/6/fr/character/cammy

that s cammy's

[fallow hinge]

looks like hellboy's

just, more sci-fi

[desert tendon]

hmmm

let s check

[glass mortar]

wait thats a glove

i thot his hand was just like that

[desert tendon]

cammy is 96

[glass mortar]

she looks good for it

[desert tendon]

hellboy is 94

[fallow hinge]

it is like that

[desert tendon]

gosh

they stole it

[fallow hinge]

that's the Right Hand of Doom

[desert tendon]

dont talk to me about doom

i wanna shoot my BFG again

[glass mortar]

ugh

i should login and do my chores before reset

but i cba

might be bedtime

[desert tendon]

yea weran

go chill

you did a great work already you deserved some rest!

[glass mortar]

gunna go watch some overlord

i did do 4 keys today for my union mandated vault filling so

and it was all 10 weeklies

[fallow hinge]

I should pause Big Mouth, swap to some chill minecraft 4hr vids and sleep to the ambience

I'm 3 keys shy of a full vault this week

which is 5 more keys than I've done for like a month

[desert tendon]

have u progressed more on IO ?

👀

[latent oak]

keys fun this season

[fallow hinge]

not since friday

or sat

whenever we did 'em

[desert tendon]

yea i see when that was

you guys know

i dont have any chores to do

[wintry solar]

When are we going to get Ark 2 news

[desert tendon]

cuz i m free now

[fallow hinge]

our goal is just resilient keys for pacemaker

[desert tendon]

soonish

[wintry solar]

Also, new turok >.>

[glass mortar]

zootopia 2 trailer tomorrow

[wintry solar]

It's not an fps so idc

[glass mortar]

make sure the vulpera players know

[latent oak]

weran the furry gg

[fallow hinge]

wonder if it'll get renamed zootropolis 2 in the UK again, like the first one was

[desert tendon]

gotta @ llmch

and tell him about zootopia

[glass mortar]

it got linked in guild discord and priest discord

and alot of discords im in actually

oh no

[fallow hinge]

and probably the hunter and druid discords

[desert tendon]

probably in the assa cat channel also

[latent oak]

crazy how furries have infiltrated the world

[glass mortar]

they control the highest IT positions in society

[desert tendon]

gooner era dude

it s lost

[glass mortar]

its crazy

^

[fallow hinge]

they've always been there

cave paintings are the OG fur affinity

[desert tendon]

now we gotta adapt so

[latent oak]

what is the % of sys admins that are furries

gotta be >50%

[tender wedge]

150%

[fallow hinge]

85%, low balling

[glass mortar]

^

[desert tendon]

i m no cap going to take a ohio rest getting that dank sleep frfr iykyk i aint no cappin

[fallow hinge]

pretty sure it's a requirement on the job listings

[desert tendon]

bye

[glass mortar]

gn

sleep well censi

[fallow hinge]

bai qt

[latent oak]

have dreams free of furries

[fallow hinge]

sounds like you hold them in contempt

[desert tendon]

yea i aint no sigma i just get the hotties with the rizz ya know

holy shit

that s so

weird

[latent oak]

ya im furry phobic

[glass mortar]

ok now ur just making us sad

go to bed old man

[desert tendon]

i aint hold!

born in 98

boomer

i dab on you and leave

https://tenor.com/view/betty-white-golden-girls-hands-gif-24420157

[fallow hinge]

people fear what they don't understand

[glass mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/spray-girl-self-spray-funny-anime-lol-style-gif-25966311

[fallow hinge]

ha

[latent oak]

see that gif is more repulsive than my one that got deleted earlier

[desert tendon]

i think people do whatever, i m "people who annoy me directly and fuck me me trying to tell me what i should do -phobic"

[latent oak]

i go bed now gn outlaw channel

sleep tight

dont let the bed bugs bite

[fallow hinge]

speaking of what you should do, go to heckin bed you heckin qt

[glass mortar]

censi ur afraid of people trying to bang you???

same tbh

[fallow hinge]

same tbh

[glass mortar]

people with low standards scare me

[fallow hinge]

don't be mean to ma fren

[glass mortar]

im sure their taste is refinded and excellent

[desert tendon]

french taste obviously

[fallow hinge]

Never forget Weran

you're not unattractive, you're just not your type

[glass mortar]

ok but it can be both

what if my type is attractive people

🤔

[wintry solar]

I made French toast with melted vanilla ice cream instead of eggs for desert one day

[glass mortar]

how do u make

[fallow hinge]

attractiveness is subjective

[glass mortar]

like u made the french toast out of ice cream

or u had french toast and ice cream

[wintry solar]

I replaced the egg with melted ice cream

[glass mortar]

howd it turn out

wait is that allowed

[wintry solar]

A lot better

[glass mortar]

arent eggs like an important binding agent for baking or something

[desert tendon]

popo

[glass mortar]

idk im bot a baker

it sounds good but also sounds like its against the rules

[desert tendon]

i disallow you to cook ever again, for the prosterity of humanity

[fallow hinge]

you don't bake french toast

[desert tendon]

please

[wintry solar]

You cook jt on a skillet

[fallow hinge]

^

[glass mortar]

oh right french toast is just like u cook bread in stuff

[white marten]

From the m+ build, could we remove a point from fan the hammer and put it into Deft Maneuvers?

[glass mortar]

im imagining u making bread for the base of the french toast

and u subsitute ice cream

[fallow hinge]

you basically fry it in stuff

[glass mortar]

for the eggs

[wintry solar]

You can't be scared of innovation

[glass mortar]

LMAO

[glass mortar]

in what context

[desert tendon]

i m scared of your bad psychology being in my plates

[wintry solar]

I have no idea how that'd turn out but I'll try it to see

[glass mortar]

KiR already plays deft

HO cannot drop a point in fth

[fallow hinge]

Trying and failing is a necessary part of trying and succeeding.

[glass mortar]

unless ur not playing ghostly i guess

but in that case, no u cant, deft is a dps loss for HO to play

[white marten]

HO build

[glass mortar]

and it would be an even more massive loss to try to drop fth for it

[wintry solar]

If you don't fail, you're not pushing yourself

[fallow hinge]

Exactly

[wintry solar]

Notice how I said dessert and not breakfast

It was so rich and sweet

[glass mortar]

popo i just want u to know i was picturing u trying to bake bread and substituting the eggs with ice cream

thats why i was confused

ok its bedtime

[fallow hinge]

I mean us brits have bread pudding which is often served with ice cream

and this just sounds like that but more fried

so

[haughty wigeon]

[fallow hinge]

I'm in

[wintry solar]

I'm def trying that next week I'm off btw

I want to see

[glass mortar]

share the results how could it be bad

[fallow hinge]

^

[wintry solar]

Imma have to figure out the egg to ice cream ratio

[fallow hinge]

6

[wintry solar]

6 cups

[fallow hinge]

idk

I know 6

I don't know 6 of what

[glass mortar]

surely you have some baker friends u can ask

"hi im making bread today and i just hoped you could help me with substitution"

[wintry solar]

I'm the only one that has the nerve to try new things

[glass mortar]

"the recipe calls for 4 eggs but i wanted to try ice cream instead"

"how much do you think?"

"no i am not on drugs"

[wintry solar]

"Stop laughing. I'm serious"

[fallow hinge]

reminds me of college humour's old "if google was a guy" videos

"Mayonnaise as butter substitute"

D:

[glass mortar]

ok u know what u can actually substitute for eggs as a binding agent in recipes tho right

i feel like liz would know this

[fallow hinge]

HA

[glass mortar]

its not a baking fact its more a freaky fact

[fallow hinge]

oh

[glass mortar]

blood

[fallow hinge]

yes

it's a coagulant

so it'd work

it'd be gross and make you sick

but mechanically it would work

[glass mortar]

i dont think it would actually make u sick

it might be gross tho

you are baking it

[fallow hinge]

speaking from experience, it will

[wintry solar]

That's the most British thing I've ever heard

[glass mortar]

well ok now you need to share the blood bread with the whole class

[fallow hinge]

you can swallow about 25ml of your own blood before your body rejects it

[glass mortar]

ok blood is not gunna be in the same form if u mix it into a thingy and bake it tho

u probably wouldnt even taste it

or, it wouldnt taste like blood anyway

[fallow hinge]

doesn't matter, it's not the taste, it's the white blood cells

[glass mortar]

sure but i dont think the things about liquid blood that make u vomit r gunna continue to do so after cooking them

[fallow hinge]

your tummy enzymes start chewing on them then they're like "wait wtf are we bleeding right now? evacuate the tummy of acid so it doesn't get in the internal cavity"

[glass mortar]

but i (hope) dont think anyone has ever tried it so

i do not endorse the blood bread

[fallow hinge]

I don't see a reason the white blood cells would perish during baking

they're notoriously tough

[wintry solar]

3 yolks to 4 cups of dairy

Grrr

[glass mortar]

i dont think white blood cells are living however long in an oven a 400 degrees liz

[wintry solar]

I need weight

[glass mortar]

regardless of how tough they are

[fallow hinge]

what was the most british thing you've heard, btw?

[wintry solar]

I imagined pigs blood used for baking

[fallow hinge]

perhaps not ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wintry solar]

Like blood sausage but different

[fallow hinge]

blood sausage?

black pudding?

I think they're the same thing right

[wintry solar]

I think so

[sharp hinge]

is it just me or is outlaw mass aoe kinda ass

[fallow hinge]

hardcaps

it's kinda ass over 8 targets

[glass mortar]

i mean u do the same dps at 15 targets that u do at 8 brother

[wintry solar]

I got my own weird local quisine to worry about

[glass mortar]

what do u expect

[fallow hinge]

^

[sharp hinge]

like first pull cinderbrew lol

[glass mortar]

yes

ur only uncapped scaling is cudgel

[fallow hinge]

yeah you're doing like nothing on that pull

[glass mortar]

and it doesnt exactly scale well

[wintry solar]

The bf bugs are probably why NW felt like booty cheeks last season

[glass mortar]

and ara ara

many keys throughout the years tbh

[sharp hinge]

okay kewl, so its not me

i thought i was doing something wrong

[wintry solar]

No it's the spec

[fallow hinge]

^

[wintry solar]

And you

But I'm just a hater

[sharp hinge]

lol

[fallow hinge]

it's true

Popo hates everyone

especially me

[wintry solar]

Nah

[sharp hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-abridged-mr-popo-all-these-squares-make-a-circle-gif-20563687

[wintry solar]

I talk mad shit to sub players in #pvp though

[fallow hinge]

good

pvp in wow is a joke

[placid stream]

For mythic+ 10-12, outlaw has better overall dps than assa?

[glass mortar]

usually ya

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[glass mortar]

cause u can perform at pretty close to ur dps ceiling regardless of key level

all that really matters is the pulls

cd specs scale better into longer pulls (see: pulls that live the full duration of ur cds)

[fallow hinge]

or pulls that line up with your cd cadence

[glass mortar]

mhm

[sharp hinge]

boomy and lock have the same issues

[wintry solar]

He just like me fr

[fallow hinge]

boomie's issue is that the spec is unsalvageable

trash spec, delete it

[placid stream]

Yeah for 10-12 demo is better than destro

[fallow hinge]

or bring back WoD eclipse

[glass mortar]

auto eclipse

[wintry solar]

Bring back wod combat

[fallow hinge]

bring back WoD shadow

[glass mortar]

as long as wod sub is back so i can swap specs and never look back

[wintry solar]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-explode-clouds-of-smoke-gif-17216934

[glass mortar]

we have a deal popo

[placid stream]

Okay thanks for the help!

[wintry solar]

Awesome

[fallow hinge]

tbf, as much hate as WoD gets, it was a high point for raiding and class design for a lot of classes

[glass mortar]

ok CoP enjoyer

WoD had a ton of great specs

fun raiding to

the story kinda sucked which i get

[haughty wigeon]

it was

[glass mortar]

and the cadence of content

[fallow hinge]

I played CoP in Highmaul, AS in BRF, and CoP weave in HFC

[glass mortar]

but alot of the game design was great

[haughty wigeon]

alot of specs had very high points

i still think wod was still lackluster tho

[fallow hinge]

WoD was missing M+

[haughty wigeon]

we cant forget they actually nerfed a spec just so players wont play it

in wod

[glass mortar]

oooo

[glass mortar]

best ranged dps theyve ever made

[haughty wigeon]

which i find to be absolutely unacceptable

[glass mortar]

and they realized it was a mistake

but yea

[wintry solar]

I think this was to lessen the pain of meta going to dh

[glass mortar]

cant wait for pandaria/wod classic just so i can play demo

🤤

[fallow hinge]

mmmmmmmmm

[glass mortar]

i mean it was probably a bunch of reason but

[wintry solar]

Panda is the last classic

[glass mortar]

demo was disgusting

[haughty wigeon]

mist classic

[fallow hinge]

SoO warlock was peak

[haughty wigeon]

is gonnna be so fun

[glass mortar]

so much fun

so flexible

so min maxable

[haughty wigeon]

galakrons eye

[glass mortar]

very OP ranged dps design

i know why they did it

[haughty wigeon]

50% cdr on your main cd

[fallow hinge]

aoe chaos bolts, chaos wave demo, soulburn soulswap affliction...

[haughty wigeon]

pure sex

[glass mortar]

blizzard hates me personally

[haughty wigeon]

god trinkets in the past few expansion

hold 0 candles to trinkets of the past

[fallow hinge]

y'all remember the amplify trinkets?

Purified Bindings of Immerseus

[glass mortar]

ok but

WoD trinkets

soul cap

[haughty wigeon]

thoks tail tip

[glass mortar]

me when i do zero dps for the first 20s of the fight

[haughty wigeon]

class trinkets

[glass mortar]

then i blow up for 10% of the boss hp

soul cap + ring

[fallow hinge]

oh the one that was a hps loss over not having a trinket equipped for Holy Priest?

q.q

[haughty wigeon]

[glass mortar]

I hated the shadow class trinket

shadow that tier was fun tho

[fallow hinge]

I loved it

[glass mortar]

mix of AS and CoP weaving fights

[fallow hinge]

CoP weave was amazing

perma mindbender

[glass mortar]

CoP was

i would not enjoy it again

AS was a banger tho

[fallow hinge]

Shadow will never be as good as it was back then

for me, at least

[glass mortar]

yes because they dont know what to do with it

[fallow hinge]

not even double surrender was better

[glass mortar]

ever since legion its been like a lost child wandering in the dark

[fallow hinge]

that's because they lost their class designer halfway through HFC to long term illness

and they never filled that slot

[haughty wigeon]

game needs class specific rpg items again

[fallow hinge]

like anathema?

[glass mortar]

legion order halls did go hard

[wintry solar]

Real

[glass mortar]

i mean, who knows

[haughty wigeon]

liek anathema

[glass mortar]

we probably have a legendary next season

[wintry solar]

We need a new one btw

[haughty wigeon]

class halls

[glass mortar]

its probably ethereal themed

[haughty wigeon]

class specific bis items

[glass mortar]

who is getting one

[haughty wigeon]

like that shit is fun

[glass mortar]

i think void caster stick

personally

[fallow hinge]

I really hope we do get a void + arathi season

[wintry solar]

Agility polearm legendary

[haughty wigeon]

lowkey i was disappointed with fyraleth

cause it was generic lego

[fallow hinge]

god yes please

[glass mortar]

altho i guess the legendary could be us getting that artifact whatever its called that xal was having gally fix and "purifying" it

[haughty wigeon]

and not a class specific one

[fallow hinge]

insta survival lock

[glass mortar]

so it could be like a trinket

thats like

[fallow hinge]

dark heart

[wintry solar]

A trinket in your weapon slot

[glass mortar]

the only legendary esque thing i can think of now

yea the dark heart

[haughty wigeon]

it was a legendary after 3 buffs

[wintry solar]

Exactly my thought

[fallow hinge]

I doubt we'll be getting the dark heart

[glass mortar]

yea more likely they make something up

[fallow hinge]

It's kinda needed for Midnight's story

[glass mortar]

or we just dont get a legendary honestly

[haughty wigeon]

we're not getting the darkheart

[haughty wigeon]

that would be lowkey

be so disappointing

[fallow hinge]

they can't voidify the sunwell if we get teh dark heart

[glass mortar]

they stated their goal is to do legendaries "when it makes sense narratively"

and not just do them to do them

which i can respect

a full expac with no legendary is a bit dissapointing tho yea

like sark we got his glove thingy

[fallow hinge]

Alleria's bow might be up for grabs

[glass mortar]

fyrakk his axe

[wintry solar]

I like when leggos have a build up to them

[glass mortar]

queen was just smashing us with her badonka what would she give us

[fallow hinge]

I hope we see Ky'veza again

[glass mortar]

same for this season tbh

[wintry solar]

Instead of "oh btw here's an axe"

[glass mortar]

well the evoker one had a sorta buildup and quest chain

[fallow hinge]

Ky'veza legendary daggers anyone?

[glass mortar]

but yea i do like the legendaries of old

[haughty wigeon]

we're probably seeing kyveza

again

best lego system was questline system

[wintry solar]

A leggo outlaw can't use lol

[glass mortar]

another kyveza fight with more levels would go hard

[fallow hinge]

there's a chance we won't see her until midnight

[glass mortar]

that was one of my favorite fights of s1

[haughty wigeon]

i know it'll probably be to much to balance

[glass mortar]

we dont actually know who the ethereals r working for tho

[haughty wigeon]

but imagine

a lego questline

[fallow hinge]

They're not working for anyone. The Ethereals are their own faction already

[haughty wigeon]

and the end result is a class/spec specific lego item

[glass mortar]

sure

but theres multiple factions of them

unless the arcane and void ethereals

[haughty wigeon]

that would be cool

[glass mortar]

are all the same guys

i didnt get that impression

[fallow hinge]

but there are some voidy ethereals that are working for the void gods

[glass mortar]

wasnt it the void ethereals that stole the dark heart

[fallow hinge]

yeah

[haughty wigeon]

ye

[fallow hinge]

but that's not Ky'veza's group iirc

[glass mortar]

so that would imply that

either they arent working for the void gods, or xal isnt

[haughty wigeon]

theres multiple groups of etherals

lorewalking spoilers too

[glass mortar]

yea im expecting third faction ethereals

[haughty wigeon]

||brokers are etherals||

[glass mortar]

as a villian

[fallow hinge]

Xal's not working for the void gods, she's working for the old gods, isn't she?

[haughty wigeon]

nah

[fallow hinge]

that was kinda obvious tbh

[glass mortar]

the old gods work for the void lords

[twilit apex]

Is Zee thugs just sim bait?

[glass mortar]

no

[haughty wigeon]

another lorewalker spoilers

||xalatoes tried to fuck over the oldgods and got trapped||

[wintry solar]

I looked at one and knew instantly

[glass mortar]

but it does make cudgel not work when the npcs r spawned so

[fallow hinge]

I suppose

[glass mortar]

wouldnt recommend it for m+

[glass mortar]

thot we all knew that tho

[fallow hinge]

^

[glass mortar]

hmm maybe us old shadow priest players just assumed it

[haughty wigeon]

ye

[twilit apex]

was just wondering for dinar

[haughty wigeon]

but confiramtion is nice

[glass mortar]

and it wasnt common knowledge

[haughty wigeon]

instead of theory

[fallow hinge]

shadow players already knew that

it was covered in their artifact quest

[haughty wigeon]

playing shadow

ew

anywho

[glass mortar]

ye we knew the old gods punished her for some reason (the assumption being betrayal since thats sorta what the void does) and then she whispered sweet toe pics to nzoth

[fallow hinge]

I like Xal'atath though

[haughty wigeon]

i like it, cause way to many people thought brokers were store brand etherals.

so im glad theres a confirm connect now

[glass mortar]

its one of our strongest but its really only gunna be great in raid

[gaunt phoenix]

Thug's hotline is not really different than magnet or geargrinder on ST, but it's worse in aoe and also it bugs out the nightfall mace in keys

[glass mortar]

personally not sure id recommend it

yea

[fallow hinge]

Personally I'm more interested in the implications that the ethereals already had the ability to freely travel to the shadowlands

Before Sylvanas got angry at a helmet

[glass mortar]

they apparently can travel from the void also so, not the most surprising

travel seems to be their speciality

[haughty wigeon]

im not surprised tbh

[glass mortar]

btw u know whats great about this expac liz

[fallow hinge]

ye but nice to have the confirmation

[fallow hinge]

a lot of things?

[glass mortar]

how every void NPC we see in the major cutscenes is just like

[fallow hinge]

delves?

[glass mortar]

teleport o clock

spam blinking around

[fallow hinge]

true

[haughty wigeon]

outlaw lego

[glass mortar]

meanwhile the canaconical void spec in the game

is the only one

[haughty wigeon]

and its a one handed sword

BUT

[glass mortar]

that RP walks everywhere

[haughty wigeon]

BUT

[glass mortar]

of all the casters

[haughty wigeon]

gun

[glass mortar]

rip shadow priest

[haughty wigeon]

gun sword

and makes all sword animation into shooty animation

[fallow hinge]

not mine, I play void elf for the true thematic appropriateness

[haughty wigeon]

kino

[glass mortar]

tfw the void race has a racial teleport but void priests gotta run 80 yards across the room

so glad i left my priest behind 2 expacs ago and never looked back

[fallow hinge]

D&D wizard vs sorcerer

void elves got their power through eldritch phenomenon, aka sorcerer

shadow priests merely study the void, aka wizard

[glass mortar]

ok but wizards can teleport the same way sorcs can

they r just nerds

[fallow hinge]

which is why shadow can use more of the void stuff than void elves

like how wizards have a bigger spell list than sorcs

[glass mortar]

but cant do the most basic bitch teleportation move

its ok liz, u dont need to defend it not making sense in the lore

door of shadows is right there

blizz just hates priests

we all know this

[fallow hinge]

counterpoint: do they need to teleport if they have tentacles that make people just not wanna go near them?

[glass mortar]

but what if they wanna be near people

[fallow hinge]

yeah, they do

it's sad

[glass mortar]

yelling in void speak

[fallow hinge]

/cancelaura shadowform

[glass mortar]

omg its so past bedtime

[fallow hinge]

yup

I shall depart for bed with these parting words: Starfinder 2e is turning out to be a really fun system to play.

[glass mortar]

Ur a really fun system to play 😠

Gn

[haughty wigeon]

primus being the real villain of sl was a good theory

i wish it was true

[long barn]

Has anyone noticed there is a issue with GCD during BL

It’s almost like you press it too early with too low of spellqueue and it breaks and goes to shit

[runic bough]

how do we change spell que window?

im on now cant find

[long barn]

There is a console command or just download advanced system options addon

Hang on I’ll find command

/console SpellQueueWindow 300

300 being whatever you want

I used to play your MS + 100

So for me that’s around 110-120

[runic bough]

i found this but its so old

i see

[long barn]

I wondering if anyone can confirm an issue that is 2nd between 150ms to 250ms when the original gcd is finished. that is in blizzard code most likely broken code for the 1 button update.

[long barn]

Yea so make yours like 120 or something

But test around and see what feels good

[safe pasture]

had a weird bug happen in rook on the 2nd boss where ar didnt tick down outside of stealth just hung at 20 till i vanished was odd

[gaunt phoenix]

AR can very rarely bug out, never seen it myself

[long barn]

It only seems to break on BL but I can’t confirm if it’s other spots too.

[runic bough]

I typed it in and nothing popped up

I set it to 150

[long barn]

Do the dump command now

It will tell you what it’s set to now

It’s in the pic you posted

[long barn]

I hate to increase my spell queue

So annoying

[runic bough]

it says its a custom script

kinda sus

[long barn]

The /dump command?

[runic bough]

ye

[long barn]

Sec let me check

This didn’t work?

/dump GetCVar("SpellQueueWindow")

[proven ocean]

Not related to BL

Its when u press ar at the same point where subterfuge registers to end

So it counts as if ur still in stealth even when you arent

[long barn]

Yuck

[gaunt phoenix]

think scores is talking about some GCD issue when I was referring to the infinite AR

[proven ocean]

Ah

[long barn]

What I’m experiencing is like randomly in dungeons it’s like I am getting input lag but it’s different. It’s like the GCD is messed up

Or the spell queue gets behind

I thought it was BL related

[proven ocean]

Its like

U press ss

Hit

But

[safe pasture]

are you on oce 😄

[long barn]

Hahah no

I have like 18 MS

[proven ocean]

Then u press a pistol shot at the end of the gcd, and it presses ur older button?

[long barn]

Yea

[proven ocean]

Yea if u dont want to see that lowrr ur spellqueue

Make sure u dont miss gcds

Dont be slow with ur fingers

[long barn]

Ok

[proven ocean]

I play outlaw with extremely low spellqueue but u need to be aware that u might miss gcds if ur not fast enough

So u need to be rly rly fast

[gaunt phoenix]

i think sometimes the server gets weird and you get a weird input lag for no reason

[long barn]

How low you talking

[gaunt phoenix]

sometimes

[random stirrup]

There’s definitely some stuff beyond spellqueue

[proven ocean]

Like 80

Is what i played with

Sometimes 90-100

[random stirrup]

Weran has talked about it a bit as well

[proven ocean]

Forgot

[safe pasture]

wait you can change spell que

[proven ocean]

Cuz i dont plau outlaw spellqueue now

[gaunt phoenix]

ya

[proven ocean]

I play sin spellqueue

[safe pasture]

omagawd thats cray

[random stirrup]

Sometimes my bte triple sends itself

[proven ocean]

Way different

[long barn]

It been broke since last patch

[proven ocean]

If ur using bars addon remove that

[long barn]

Either cooldown bullshit addon or the 1 button code they added I feel like

[proven ocean]

Use default blizzard one

[long barn]

Ok

I could try that

[proven ocean]

That fucks up ur gcd

[gaunt phoenix]

nah people have talked about weird gcd issues for years and years

[proven ocean]

By alot

[long barn]

I like my NUI stuff

[proven ocean]

Esprcially bartender

Ur using bartender?

By any chance

[long barn]

I’m using Nauwhs or whatever

[proven ocean]

There are no weird gcd issues now

Its just addon/wa related

[gaunt phoenix]

could be

[long barn]

Anyone know an addon that just removes everything on screen so I can just built a UI from Weakaureas

[proven ocean]

If there are gcd issues im sure me or zac or any other outlaw would notice

[gaunt phoenix]

i think it's like server issues

not reproducable

[long barn]

I’ll try and catch it in video

Could be server

[gaunt phoenix]

Like i remember since bfa some people say "my gcd feels weird during bloodlust" even though it's obviously not bloodlust

but it's a somewhat common feeling

[proven ocean]

It is just lower gcd with higher spellqueue

Thats the issue

[random stirrup]

my spellqueue is low already though

[proven ocean]

Nothign else

[random stirrup]

I play like 150

[proven ocean]

150 isnt as low as u think it is

[quick quail]

How much spellque do u play? I believe I changed it to 180 on BFA and havent changed it ever since

[long barn]

He’s at 80

[random stirrup]

ye but its not going to cause you to double send globals

[long barn]

I might try that

[proven ocean]

For sub rogue i play 80-90, idk about sin i have to check when im online definitely higher

[gaunt phoenix]

i've never seen it, and i presume they mean it doesnt happen all the time/every lust

[random stirrup]

this is like a maybe twice a day issue

[proven ocean]

Outlaw u need lower spellqueue and fast fingers irl

[long barn]

So the risk with low spell queue is you miss a button in time and you miss a GCD

?

[proven ocean]

If ur issue is rare, lower spellqleueue by 10

U shouldnt encounter it anymore

[random stirrup]

yea its just annoying since I don't want to play low spellqueue on other specs

[proven ocean]

Well issue of low spellqueue is this

Pistol shot 0.00 seconds
Between the eyes 0.80 seconds

Best case scenario ur not missing gcds ur a great player ^

0.00 seconds pistol shot
0.96 seconds between the eyes

^slow fingers u had a 0.16 window of pressing bte that u missed which will add up so after 100 gcds ur missing a few button hits

Which is important for outlaw

Because the buttons you press = more energy = more finishers = higher ar uptime = more long term energy to never lose momentum

Anyways im too tired to talk now i’ll go to sleep

Gn

[random stirrup]

^ also not doing anything is usually worse than doing the wrong thing

pressing ss at 6 or something

sending a finisher at 5

def better than dropping globals

[proven ocean]

For sub rogue its worse to press something wrong

Outlaw not so much atleast

[random stirrup]

yeah for sub

at least you don't waste sht

[proven ocean]

Sub is ez to deal with

15 sec of spam

60 seconds of chilling

[random stirrup]

fix coup refund delay

[frail veldt]

does zac not use bartender?

how do you hide your bars without bartender

[safe pasture]

can i bring a aug to my 15 or am i trollin

[frail veldt]

people have done 19s with aug

[safe pasture]

i just mean for outlaw

[frail veldt]

aug isnt as bad for outlaw as it used to be

tbh

augs value is kinda more self contained now too

[ocean forge]

chat this is gonna sound dumb but do you spend opportunity procs during subterfuge or do you ONLY use ambush

[frail veldt]

it does relevant dps on its own

[frail veldt]

the baseline rule is to only use ambush

[safe pasture]

bett ty just makin sure

[frail veldt]

but you can spend opp procs if you have BS and max stacks op at <2cps

as a small optimization

or when low on energy

in subterfuge

but if you dont want to think about it you can just use ambush while in subterfuge and PS with opp if you run out of energy

[ocean forge]

okay cuz i was using it to not overcap and cuz low energy sometimes

[frail veldt]

its okay to overcap while in subterfuge

its better to be coming out of subterfuge with max stacks

[frail veldt]

than to avoid overcapping while inside subterfuge

[runic bough]

just need some 13's now

guys I like KiR better than HO

[ocean forge]

oh okay cool thats good to know then thanks :3

[frail veldt]

youve said this before

[runic bough]

yeah but i had to play HO and test ambush macro

I still like KiR more

=x

[olive bramble]

I prefer KiR too honestly

Can still do my 14s so eh

[safe pasture]

YO

heavy reccomend aug for dfc

feels like a whole dif key

[wintry solar]

Aug is a hard sell personally

[safe pasture]

idkkk it felt like candleking was buttery and he still pulled 2.5m over all while giga buffing enhancement sham

sorry mean ele

[wintry solar]

Just find an ele and an Aug to buff it

[safe pasture]

xd

had priest pi him too

[tight kernel]

Don’t let Zac hear about your Aug wet dreams

He might crash out

[safe pasture]

xdd

is there anything we can do about getting nailed to the damn ground in floodgate

other than vanish when nailed

[frail veldt]

lol nope

very annoying

[safe pasture]

zzz

[frail veldt]

and it blocks your ks

for some reason

[bright crane]

You can send a 1 cp ks

[frail veldt]

yeah but thats very shit for your dps

well not "very"

but still

feelsbaddd

[bright crane]

Yeah just sayin

It’s saved me once or twice though

[frail veldt]

oh for sure

[safe pasture]

wait does that break the stun

[frail veldt]

I send 1pt ks over holding ks a lot

[safe pasture]

or root

[frail veldt]

ks breaks roots normally

[wintry solar]

I'm about halfway there myself

[frail veldt]

but for some reason this root

cancels ks

but ks still breaks it

[safe pasture]

oh damn thats huge ty!

[bright crane]

If you send a full cp ks in the root

It cancels the rest of the damage right

[frail veldt]

yep

[bright crane]

Sad

[wintry solar]

When they fix KS, I'm gonna miss an otherwise reliable root break tbh

[frail veldt]

im honestly not sure if its better to send a low cp ks to cancel the root or to vanish even with KS off cd to cancel the root and ks after

[frail veldt]

unless they keep the root break

who knows

[wintry solar]

No one

But

Is blizz cool enough?

[random stirrup]

evasion dodges it too

[hidden bay]

They really pushed how far timegating can go with this .5

[wintry solar]

It's not even worth playing on patch day

Ridiculous

[runic bough]

we are beta testers

its common knowledge by now

[frail veldt]

how high should this be at this point?

am I super behind?

[hidden bay]

Has anyone actually tried the visions?

[runic bough]

9

[random stirrup]

we are getting 12 on reset

[sharp hinge]

haste vers generally our best stats?

[west dirge]

haste until some extent: HO 8-10% and KiR 18-20%

rest is vers most likely

[safe pasture]

Ye heavy vers skew

[jolly rune]

Why do my sims always say haste over 20% is still better than crit though?

[random stirrup]

link sim

[jolly rune]

I don’t have any at the moment I would have to do it tomorrow

But when I simmed a ring yesterday with a HO build, it was wayyy better to use more haste

[safe pasture]

Prob just cause lower actual cds maybe ? Feel like crit is meh just take it cause I can’t go verse verse on crafted sense im at haste requirement

[random stirrup]

the HO sc build with gs does want more than 10% haste

i think more like 15-17%

kir shouldn't ever want more than 20 though

[grim spear]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[safe pasture]

Anyone ever done a main gouche mastery build tho I feel like they would be funny

[wintry solar]

Kinda me

I've had bad rng with gear so my mastery is higher than I'd like

[safe pasture]

Ahh ya I felt that early on

Life hack just start offering mfs 5-10k when they hit your drop and soon 7+s

How I got my trash masters mantle back when I grinded for that bs

[wintry solar]

Got millions of gold but none to spare

[safe pasture]

loll I ain’t tryna waste all my time on the gear grind remember doing halls of infusion like 30 times in a weekend as rdruid made my brain melt

[limpid plank]

is there a rotation guide for outlaw here?

[safe pasture]

Yes under faqs

[limpid plank]

!faq

!faqs

[safe pasture]

Na in the discord

Different tab

[limpid plank]

ah

[safe pasture]

If you have questions though people here can help ya

[wintry solar]

!faps

Bot must be down

[safe pasture]

I need to sleep stayed up way too late

I heard the new belt gona be time gated ig

[limpid plank]

do you use RTB before before AR or does rogue still use it afteR?

[safe pasture]

Shouldn’t matter unless taking the talent that has more chances at matching roles after ar

But don’t think any builds take it right now

Could def be wrong on that tho

Are you doing HO or RTB

Sorry meant kir

Too tired

[wintry solar]

Both

Roll on CD until 5 buff

[limpid plank]

HO since its mildly worse than KiR

[safe pasture]

Ya then roll till 5

[limpid plank]

action points still get wiped on boss pull right

so pull with AR correct?

[safe pasture]

I’m not sure don’t raid :[

[hidden bay]

Action points 💀

[stiff glade]

Yes. AR after pull

[safe pasture]

Should be a command for openers don’t remember what it is

But that one does work in here whatever it is

!pre

Nope not it

[stiff glade]

The faq has a section for the opener as well

[wintry solar]

!prepull

Lame

Anyways

Rework outlaw

[jolly geyser]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[wintry solar]

Yeah I was gonna do that but I lost interest

Such is the way of life

[hidden bay]

This is missing ks before so you start with 3 ub stacks

[limpid plank]

so for this, i would use killing spree @ 2 vanish and then vanish after?

[frail veldt]

yep

[runic bough]

okw ell

well

spell que at 150 is laggy

but 100 feels nice

[vivid vessel]

?

Cba

[frail veldt]

lol

I thought about it too

but then was like