outlaw

[raven condor]

the va's for the dub are incredible too

[cinder relic]

It's like dungeon messi

Just mid hyped up cuz its new 💯

[hollow temple]

nah you should. ignore guy

[cinder relic]

SAO is slop in the same way that Tokyo Ghoul is slop

I love tokyo ghoul but it's giga shit slop

U just gotta love it for what it is

[vivid vessel]

wtf ?

[shut lichen]

SAO is shit tbf

[craggy barn]

dungeon meshi and frieren are just good refreshing takes on the medieval fantasy anime genre

[vivid vessel]

tokyo ghoul is my favorite anime by far

[craggy barn]

isntead of being pure shonen slop

[shut lichen]

starts good then falls off a fucking cliff

[vivid vessel]

fuck you guy

[craggy barn]

tokyo ghoul is also great

[raven condor]

spit those fax

[vivid vessel]

i miss solo leveling

[raven condor]

so far from "talk talk no jutsu"

[stuck sparrow]

they’re slice of lifes

[vivid vessel]

that shit was goated

people that dont like solo levling are just clueless no cap

[runic bough]

@cinder relic what makes it slop to you

[craggy barn]

im not a big anime watcher, i mostly just read the manga

[stuck sparrow]

for the average viewer that uses anime as escapism

[cinder relic]

Slop is like taste, you can't really define it

it's just one of those things u know

This is tokyo ghoul

[craggy barn]

but ill tune in a bit out of curiosity for the animation

[raven condor]

Nah hivemind discord channel, one take for all

[vivid vessel]

bro tokyo ghould is so peak tho ! ! ! !

[glass mortar]

tokyo ghoul def had good writing but the manga was like 4X as long as the anime

[vivid vessel]

stop yapping !

[raven condor]

either wrong or right no in-between

[cinder relic]

It for sure doesn't

[vivid vessel]

fuck this yapper on god !

[glass mortar]

the anime was a step down story wise which is unusual

[cinder relic]

The anime is worse than the manga, but the manga isn't exactly great either

[vivid vessel]

i will step on you weran

[hollow temple]

bro what

[cinder relic]

Like I said, I like it

[glass mortar]

but the anime stopped halfway

[runic bough]

Guy doesnt know what he likes it looks like hes cooked

[cinder relic]

But it's so shit

I know what I like

HXH is peak

There has never, and will never be an anime as good as HXH

[vivid vessel]

ye fuck this guy guy

[cinder relic]

It's just a fact

[vivid vessel]

guy is cooked fr

[craggy barn]

if only hxh could continue

[latent oak]

guy knows that u can like things the are strictly bad

[glass mortar]

well i consider tokyo ghoul re and tokyo ghoul in the same vein

[steady crane]

Is that a bad thing to use trick on focus ? What to do else ?

[glass mortar]

tokyo ghoul was much lower quality then the second one

[runic bough]

i agree hxh is good they should have made more

[cinder relic]

Absolutely

[raven condor]

db/dbz duh

[craggy barn]

!tricks

[ornate heath]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[vivid vessel]

ye cause you wanna have your focus to kick/stun etc

[lime lake]

ye this is real

[cinder relic]

Theres nothing wrong with enjoying something that's shit

[vivid vessel]

its very very very very bad

[hollow temple]

the only bad tokyo ghoul is the last season

[vivid vessel]

terrible

[lime lake]

there are a lot of things i love that objectively i know are fucking terrible

[vivid vessel]

the most noob mistake

every noob does

focus is so imporatnt

[cinder relic]

Like DBZ super is objectively worse than DBZ

However, I like super a lot

[craggy barn]

good take

i agree

[latent oak]

its liky ryu making no tier set outlaw builds

[raven condor]

bro that first season of super holy shit. look how they massacred my boyy

[latent oak]

he loves that shit and good for him

[cinder relic]

First season is very rough animation for sure

But super has hype moments and aura

Goku black holy chills

[raven condor]

jiren. jpeg

[craggy barn]

jiren and his aura

[raven condor]

it fucked though. vegetas monologue in top

[cinder relic]

Exactly bro

[raven condor]

PEAK

[cinder relic]

But its so, so, so much worse than the OG saga

[hollow temple]

i can't fuck with dragon ball super

at all.

[runic bough]

i wanted to see more ssj3

in dbz

[cinder relic]

Freiza and cell saga are like peak, generic shonen

[raven condor]

the manga changes were what piss me off the most.

[steady crane]

So you need to add to focus a mob before engaging it in key ? With a bind or a wa/addon?

[craggy barn]

og sagas

[vivid vessel]

ye like /focus mouseover

and then before every pack

you set your focus

and you kick it

its easier

than kicking on mosueover and shit

[latent oak]

it helps if u have a plater pack that colours the focus mobs differently

[vivid vessel]

its good

[latent oak]

so u can do it when walking up to the pack

[vivid vessel]

it should be something you do if you do m+

[cinder relic]

Majin buu saga so ass bruh 😭

[steady crane]

Or focus skull if you get a wa that auto mark mobs i think ?

[vivid vessel]

i mean if you wanna focus skull

you do whatever you want cuh

[steady crane]

I have for other char not rogue

But ok. I didn't do it before. I can try

[raven condor]

the jawbreaker vegeto kicking the shit out of buu is peak shonen

[runic bough]

starting +12 priory

wish me luck guys

[raven condor]

gogo 5mil overall, we believe in you

[runic bough]

im starting to get more aware of weapon swapping

[remote pike]

@vivid vessel what trinkets u using in m+? do you change in to any specific? been very lucky with trinkets this season so got pretty much all

[high sluice]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[rapid grail]

xD

10 psf :)))))))

[raven condor]

just buy myth capo kekw

[raven condor]

HUGE

[rapid grail]

❤️ im noob in outlaw just rerolled from arcane/fire mage

[remote pike]

is myth capo very close to the champ OH?

[rapid grail]

xDD

for this season i mena

[remote pike]

cause my champ OF sometimes does like 4% of my total damage because im an absolute demon at utilizing it

[rapid grail]

when shoudl i use this lvl?

[glass mortar]

they arent supposed to be competing

u wear mythic capo on ur mh

then u swap cudgel and a 684 oh between trash/bosses

[shut lichen]

bruh what?

[cinder relic]

Worse than saiyan, worse than freiza, worse than cell

It's just bad

Gotenks is the worst character of all time

[shut lichen]

no way your dissing my grim reaper of justice like that

[shut lichen]

well sure it's worse than them but i don't find it ass

especially as a vegeta fanboy

when he blew himself up was so gas

[runic bough]

nice waste of 5 mins

[remote pike]

you're completely right, im dumb xd

[cinder relic]

I hated gotenks, I hated the constant back and forth between gohan meditating for his stupid sword, I hated the asspull of majin buu breaking out of the hyperbolic time chamber after they trap him inside

[snow hill]

Sigh

I'm really struggling with and only with Raid lag.

Does anyone else have something that's helped with this?

I've tweaked my graphics card, turned up my refresh rate on my screen to smooth out FPS as much as possible, but I still keep getting gimped with my rotation.

[remote pike]

its mostly the game. aging engine

[runic bough]

lame cant report right now

[shut lichen]

sword training with elder kai i can get behind as boring

[remote pike]

got a 7800x3d and a 4080super still got issues during raids sometimes

and played both on everything low /essential and tried high as well

[shut lichen]

but ssj3, vegito being formed, vegeta's sacrifice, ultimate gohan running buu's fade, the final fight on the kai homeworld

man the saga has some highs

[remote pike]

if you actually have old hardware, you could try to turn the resolution down?

[runic bough]

u prob didnt tune your pc

thats a gg pc bro

some people still using pc from 10 years ago

playing wow

[remote pike]

its just the game mate, xmp is on, slight overclock on cpu, ram is at 6700 i think

[runic bough]

hows the temps? whats ur graphics settings in game?

[remote pike]

6400* mhz on ram sry

[runic bough]

did u test for hardware is working and not defective?

plenty of things to check here

[remote pike]

temps are fine, works very good also in other games

60-70 graphics card

[vapid blaze]

idk if you have big issues in raid
its prob an addon or wa fucking you

[remote pike]

around same cpu

[vapid blaze]

standard elvui frames? ^^

[runic bough]

X3D cpu cant handle ram over 6000 speeds

unless u had someone tweak it for you

i donno

[remote pike]

hmmmm, you sure?

[runic bough]

all of them are 6000

but if it working for you maybe u win silicon lottery

good cpu

higher ram speed accepted

[vapid blaze]

@remote pike have you parsed your addons and weakauras?

[runic bough]

depends

[remote pike]

what does that actually mean, this is getting advanced, and i thought i was alright on computers

[vapid blaze]

it doesnt matter how good your pc is
if your ui is gimped

[vivid vessel]

are you getting r1 parses

[remote pike]

hmm, well they are already at 6400

[vivid vessel]

on your addons

he is asking

[remote pike]

no ur stealing them all

xDS

[vivid vessel]

im r1 shadowed unit frame user rn

[vapid blaze]

parse wa:
/wa pstart
/wa pstop (after a pull or 2)
/wa pprint (to see result)

addon profiling idk if you can see what the blizzard one does
otherwise there is an addon for that
addon cpu usage

if id have to guess
its your raidframes or details or plater ^^

[remote pike]

is it the 3d animation shit?

[latent oak]

not just that

[remote pike]

i heard somebody talk about

[vapid blaze]

f.e.
but elvui raidframes are terrible cause they check for too much shit

(baseline elvui frames, if you setup them up apparantly they are fine)

[remote pike]

i cant tell if i won it. i ran them at 6400mhz since i installed it like 1-2 years ago, up from 6000 no bsod or any apparent issues in other games?

my ram that is

[vapid blaze]

is there a way to sim a log or convert a log into a simmable route/profile?

[hollow portal]

Do you know what helped me? Put Wow as high priority in the task manager. I have an X3D and that has helped me a lot. Try it.

[remote pike]

I'm going to try that lol.

[hollow portal]

On Reddit, some people find it works, others don't. It works for me, though

[runic bough]

do you know how to undervolt with PBO in bios settings?

[haughty wigeon]

what the shit

nah man you uniroincally did not say that

[remote pike]

thank you, i'll have to try that once im in a raid - should i expect lag while parse?

[remote pike]

yes

[haughty wigeon]

disrespecting my goat mr satan

who saved the world twice

3 times end of buu saga

[vapid blaze]

from wa profiling dunno prob not

cpu profiling yeah you def notice that one

[snow hill]

Yeah done all that, playing graphics during raid looks borderline Nintendo 64 Golden Eye graphics 💀

[runic bough]

i would try eco mode and +200 mhz clock

[vapid blaze]

there are also some guides on how to optimize certain things like elvui frames etc
or just general stuff

[remote pike]

and that might improve performance???? o.o

[snow hill]

I keep getting told that too 😞

[runic bough]

eco mode lowers the temps and you can sustain better performance

[rapid grail]

:)))))

!sim

this trinket is better or pacemaker from flood?

[remote pike]

from what i understand pacemaker is better in general in aoe, and conductor is a middle ground bit less effective aoe, bit better st?

[rapid grail]

ah kk

[tender wedge]

Will probably depend on your unique set up, sim it

[rapid grail]

i did pace maker is better in 5 target

[tender wedge]

There you go

Note - pacemaker is also great for both assass and sub if you dabble

[rapid grail]

yeapp you are right

[snow hill]

Ooooh that's an idea..

[rapid grail]

!stat

[snow hill]

So basically, my lag is gimpy during raid I literally can't maintain Adrenaline rush uptime for KIR build and switched over to Trickster HO. It boosted me from 1.8/1.9m up to at least 2.2m but if I get cucked by spikes during BTE resets it still screws me. Bunk Junker not too bad but I'm doing tank DMG during Rik Reverb.

[rapid grail]

!stats

[ornate heath]

Total stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush lowers your GCD based on it, down to 0.8s at 25% haste.

The KIR build wants 18-20% haste from rating, because its only haste buff is from Alacrity.

The HO build meets this requirement with 8-10% haste from rating because of Take 'em by Surprise, but the new HO + Supercharger build continues to like Haste just because of energy, so you will have to sim. Your sim may settle for KIR-levels of haste (~18%) or slightly lower.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use.
You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[rapid grail]

25% haste is cap?

for KIR

[craggy barn]

u want to be around 18-20% as kir

haste cap is the same for both builds

just the haste u want to be at varies depending on talents

[rapid grail]

i ahve 30% haste unbuff

:(((

where did i fcked up idk

[craggy barn]

lol

[rapid grail]

xDDD

[vivid vessel]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[craggy barn]

too much haste gear not enough vers

[vivid vessel]

@sacred rune you think you could add a raid buff sim to your sheet one st one slice, the question comes up so often

[rapid grail]

28% vers xD

[craggy barn]

need more bc what else is there

pepw

yea idk what ur gear is at

[rapid grail]

i changed socket and enchants

this is my stat now

unbuff

[remote pike]

y u so fast boi, i thought i was fast

[wintry solar]

I gotta see how fast his KS is

[rapid grail]

my KS?

[craggy barn]

kill spree strikes scale off at haste

[rapid grail]

oh nice

that level always fck me up in TOP

[remote pike]

damn i just realized, i pretty much have the same gear as zac

[craggy barn]

get to pumping

[remote pike]

and 10% as good fml i might need to retire the outlaw

[craggy barn]

just list in ur pug comment "just as geared as tomelvis"

[remote pike]

xD

[craggy barn]

ez

[remote pike]

hahahahaha

for kir is there any value to getting above 20% haste

[glass mortar]

not rlly no

[remote pike]

cause my simbot really likes haste and im 23% already

[rapid grail]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ocwwSUU4Pq72JdzRyju777

😐

i got suprised by simbot

[remote pike]

i think that miiiight be a little bug lol

[rapid grail]

xDDDDD

[remote pike]

try without griftahs powder

[rapid grail]

kk

[glass mortar]

whats surprising u?

[rapid grail]

why this trinkets are better than my pacemaker and geargrinder

even in 3 target

[glass mortar]

because trinkets r all piss this season so the margins r close

ur current spare keys r only 665

upgraded keys and honeybuzzer should sim pretty identically

[rapid grail]

oh i shoudl upgrade them too max ilvl then sim it?

kk give me a sec

[glass mortar]

ur best aoe trinkets r honey buzzer/spare keys (these do the same damage but one is less annoying to use), seaforium and wax whistle

pretty much any combo of 1 active 1 passive of these is good

double active might sim wonky cause itll make the timings more jaring in the sim but they also work

[rapid grail]

oh okk

sim telling me too use 2 on use trinekt xD

[glass mortar]

the gaps between the best combos in this sim r literally like 0.2% dps

just pick a passve and active u like and play them

[raven condor]

Are you using stat weights to sim or something??? For kir it should be begging for vers after 20%ish haste

[rapid grail]

kk ty ❤️

[raven condor]

and additional to that; stat weights are dogshit, sim the gear itself.

[rapid grail]

huh? i have 28% haste and im still using haste flask xDDDD

[tender wedge]

Also remember your tanks are on the lookout for your trinket CD so they can move the mobs right as you fire it off

Watch that bike ride off into the horizon

[covert kestrel]

If unbuffed you're just pissing away damage lol

[rapid grail]

xDDD ahhah

its been liek 3 days into season im playing outlaw little bit confused

[raven condor]

yeah. the guides outline it if you need additional help.

Ho needs 10% haste minimum, but likes a little more as per sims
KIR needs 18%-20% mandatory

[runic bough]

1 more to go boys

priory is cursed

so many trolls

leave before first boss

so many trollingspree stuns in flood

very rage baiting

[remote pike]

no nothing

[wintry solar]

I could get married and have kids by the time the outlaw article comes out

[runic bough]

they dont want to release it

they will get exposed

[restive obsidian]

I wish coup de grace replaced killing spree. They both do similar things, one just kills you

[runic bough]

just died 3 times to ks in 12 flood

we still timed it

lucky they had infinite brez

saved for the trollingspree rogue

[wintry solar]

I know nothing will change with the article but it's nice to see the frustrations put out there

[runic bough]

technically speaking

they would prob make us pay more per month to fix bugs consistently

[wintry solar]

They'd increase the cost of the token

Yknow

The thing that actually makes them money

[runic bough]

lol

they have so much money

it just goes to the ceo not the staff

[jolly rune]

Hey, I have been looking at the gear the top rogues use in m+ on murlok io; I wanted to see what was the best upgrade with crafted gear and It looks like Cyrces Circlet is simming better than all the crafted rings. If this is the case, why is no one using it?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sJreWhghKC3icfVDPohYok
https://murlok.io/character/kr/azshara/로셀리니/pve

Is it just a m+ scenario?

[hybrid crown]

Getting more agi makes the ring worse I believe

So a few ilvl that sim might look different

The answer to should I still use the ring is always sim it

[balmy spade]

it simms worse for me in aoe and it was slightly better in st pre turbo patch with old ilvl

[hybrid crown]

Im curious how it looks on sims now for me

[balmy spade]

i dont even bother with that ring anymore

[hybrid crown]

But a month ago it lost to another ring

Idr

[jolly rune]

it was super close, Im guessing if i used the new ilvl. I simmed it with 675

*it might loose

[balmy spade]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/Ilovemoxxie that's my gear and i get to my 20 % required haste + a good amount of vers + crit

im pretty sure it will sim worse in st and aoe now

[sullen iris]

@vivid vessel I swear this new league season is fire

ong

make a comeback

fck m+

[glass mortar]

u r simming it vers a haste ring when u have more then enough haste

sim it vers a crit vers ring

[hybrid crown]

I plugged in a few options and best case the circlet is a 1% loss for me

thats pretty small

[raven condor]

yeah, hero track dfc ring+681 crafted ring will beat out cyrce's

[hybrid crown]

yeah DFC is my source of haste and the other ring is big vers little crit roulette wheel, so that could be why it was replaced earlier for me

[raven condor]

holy shit

[hybrid crown]

the roulette wheel is a champion even

I got that like week 2

so lucky

[raven condor]

Loaded dice haver over here, congrats

[hybrid crown]

I was surprised that a crafted crit vers was an upgrade over it tbh

[ashen vortex]

Do you know guys what I have to put in raidbot to sim myself ?

[hybrid crown]

install the simulationcraft addon

in wow type /simc

copy that shit

[ashen vortex]

yes

[hybrid crown]

thats what you put in

[stray star]

the delve belt will work in raid ?

[ashen vortex]

yes, and then in raidbot ? I put patcherk ? 1 boss ?

[hybrid crown]

dungeon slice for aoe, patch 1 boss for ST

[raven condor]

Probably need to ask that in a month? it's not even on ptr yet is it?

[ashen vortex]

thanks you man

[stray star]

yeah, some troll told me it was tuesday now

[covert kestrel]

Imagine still raiding this tier in a month, like pick up a hobby or give back to your community 😂😂😂

[stray star]

sorry abt that

sorry @gusty geyser

[raven condor]

Lmao imagine giving a fuck what people do in their spare time

raid on chief, w key those raids in a month or 2

(also yes someone trolled me with the belt shit recently too, misinformation big)

[covert kestrel]

[feral jungle]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[eager rose]

guys like more remove precise cut for Gs or remove 1pt in Fan for Gs?

kir build

[raven condor]

i run with 1 point in fan personally. Someone else in here runs without gs from memory.

It's preference based, 1pt in fth can be a bit tricky to get used to running it properly

Just because of the min-max rules with it

[eager rose]

I'm also going without Gs, but I felt like trying some alternatives, I wanted to know what you like the most

I will test with 1pt in Fan on some key

[raven condor]

yeah my only gripe is that you can feel energy starved sometimes, but i also macro gs to everything, so it's a self fulfilling problem

bigger brains probably don't have it macro'd and will have a better time with energy than i do

[eager rose]

thanks for clarifying some points

[raven condor]

💓

All in all the energy stuff is rare

So i find 1fth fun

[wintry solar]

Playing without gs also just feels nice

[proven ocean]

[woeful thunder]

so i havnt touched the spec for like few season and i was wondering whats the best trinket pairs and emblish to run ,mainly dungeon content ) ...

[raven condor]

Honestly i need to give this a go but gs is just so passive with macros that i often forget i use it.

[gaunt phoenix]

embellishment: elemental lens
trinkets: lots of options, trinkets are low impact this tier, geargrinder/magnet/pacemaker/whistle are most common

[iron quail]

if u dont want to farm much get geargrinder spare keys 1. boss and get lucky in floodgate. but outlaw has a LOT of good trinkets

[wintry solar]

Think of it as losing an energy sink >.>

[woeful thunder]

like ive seen some ppl with darkness trinket is that good? or just bc they got it from vault ?

[raven condor]

Gonna have to give myself something else to whinge about if i don't get energy starved hmm

[gaunt phoenix]

its not particularly notable, its fine

[woeful thunder]

oh btw we still play the roll the bones talent or ?

[raven condor]

do you mean kir?

[woeful thunder]

yy

[gaunt phoenix]

HO vs KIR is really close/preference/depends on gear a bit

[woeful thunder]

wdym may i ask?

depandant on gear part i mena )

[gaunt phoenix]

kir strictly uses 19% haste so you have to get that somehow

it is possible to have a gear combination that favors one or the other more

HO is flexible with haste

[woeful thunder]

ah bc of the 10% haste talent?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes, it requires like 9%, but still wants more for energy

it can get away with like 14-18% or whatever sims best

[woeful thunder]

ahh okok

1 last question what would u suggest for me to pick as 1st dinar item ?

lets assume i get lucky with pug for m raid

[gaunt phoenix]

could be heroic capo's molten knuckles or some mythic trinket

[woeful thunder]

ig ill just sim then, thx 4 info !

[feral jungle]

does anyone have a macro for BTE that uses trinket?

[gaunt phoenix]

shouldn't do that, if you vanish > hit that macro, you will break vanish with a trinket which causes subterfuge to not happen

[raven condor]

ks can be a good bind for a trinket since you shouldn't ks inside of stealth windows

IF you're dead set on macroing

(and i think it's almost mandatory to bind honeybuzzer to ks)

[obtuse hollow]

Can someone give me some dinar direction if I want to optimize my m+ setup? I have all options unlocked

[tender wedge]

But what do you already have

[raven condor]

the truest answer is capo>geargrinders>magnet? but that's in a vacuum

[obtuse hollow]

Literally nothing in myth track

[raven condor]

if I'm not mistaken

[gaunt phoenix]

if you have access to mythic capo then buy that

[covert kestrel]

If you buy something with dinars that you can't use do you still unlock the appearance

Zero upgrades so might as well get some tmogs

[raven condor]

Wym by can't use? Like items that you haven't completed the boss of from Mythic?

[feral jungle]

is thug hotline any good?

[covert kestrel]

Nah like a staff on the rogue

[tender wedge]

For single target yes BUT if lust is popped before you enter combat you dont get the bonus 🙃

[runic bough]

WE DID IT

now for some 13's

[raven condor]

oh that's... a good question.

🤷‍♀️. Fafo? LMAO.

[tender wedge]

Oh is that the cudgel/capo WA I see there?

[feral jungle]

what are some good trinkets for m+?

[tender wedge]

Geargrinder keys, minecart whistle, pacemaker, the bee one is good but is kinda toxic to use

Junk magnet not bad

[covert kestrel]

GRIM CODEX THE GOAT

You can larp as a survival hunter

[wintry solar]

I can larp as a spec that's more thematic to outlaw than outlaw itself?

Count me in

[covert kestrel]

Second dinar question, is there catchup for dinars if you miss this 3 this week? Or SOL

[wintry solar]

I too would like to know

[raven condor]

We're getting them weekly after this next reset right? so it'll be different quests for the 3 vs the next quest for the single dinar

or it might just drop from a key/raid boss

[dawn tundra]

Hey, question: Should I get a Wrist Enchant for Outlaw and if so, what should I prioritize?

[clear zephyr]

Did you guys stick with Fatebound because of KS?

[glass mortar]

no

fatebounds damage is awful

in any aoe

[clear zephyr]

i didn't enjoy the hero talent because of KS

[quick quail]

Only for mythic sprocket. Felt terribad

[sudden iron]

is there a simple RtB aura ("roll now") that actually works properly? (i prefer simple but if you have something bigger that actually works im up for that, i'll just gut it later)

[tender wedge]

Hekili will do that for you too 😉

I think some of the WAs are fine but the rolling/locking logic changes enough it’s hard to be sure what you’ve got is up to date

[raven condor]

There is, afaik it works well to date, I'm at work currently so i can send through what i know when I'm done in an hour if nobody does before then

[sudden iron]

id rather be waterboarded than play outlaw with hekili

[raven condor]

I've got one for rtb-kir and bf

and the bf wa will adapt to if you do/fight have the "bf gives combos" talent

[sudden iron]

im fine with bf, it's the rtb im struggling with, idk exactly when to use it, especially since supercharger -- i understand basics
up to date is probably the biggest issue, because they either keep changing how rtb works or meta shifts in which buffs are prefered

[raven condor]

yeh.

Generally for HO, you reroll unless you get a 4 buff

i think there's a couple of exceptions? but it's basically spam rtb on cooldown until you get 4-5 buffs

[frail veldt]

oh truuuu actually

@gaunt phoenix we finally have a safe trinket macro button

its ks!

[raven condor]

No don't @ solo i don't need my stupidity to be highlighted

small brain bad takes

[frail veldt]

wdym

its a good take

[raven condor]

[frail veldt]

it really is haha

theres no other button we press that often but never in a stealth window

ks is literally the only one

[raven condor]

cdg also, right?

[frail veldt]

Yeah I guess we press dispatch often enough now so you can prob do that

before it was bad cuz youd vanish twice in a row on your opener and not dispatch once

but yeah I bet if you put it on ks and dispatch both youd press your trinket p much on cd

[raven condor]

abaolutely, and it makes the cbm trinket actually usable.

because frick fel rush/blade rush

[haughty wigeon]

what are we dropping gs for

for ho?

[gaunt phoenix]

Pc

[gaunt phoenix]

You'll just needlessly delay trinkets like that

[runic bough]

its time guys

Ryu is going pro

WE SIM AT 4MIL NOW

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nkga2WGbfSzkcvgjkCHyaD

[gaunt phoenix]

dslice number itself has little meaning

[haughty wigeon]

ty

[runic bough]

SOLO DONT RUIN THE MOMENT

so i need to go kir now

let me switch before bed

thats also unbuffed

just food and flask

[raven condor]

@frail veldt see. im smallbrain

[gaunt phoenix]

maybe worth for the buzzer

[frail veldt]

think so? if you have it on KS and dispatch theres no way you delay by more than like 10-15 seconds

[random stirrup]

1fth kir feels so good when you're chaining buffs on trash perma

[raven condor]

98%

HUGE

[raven condor]

Mandatory lmao, it's a suicide trinket

[runic bough]

IF NO TROLLINGSPREE ID BE HIGHER

This is with deaths and having to hold a finisher ability.

I wonder what our potential is if rotation didnt need to trollingspree

we could have 100% dmg uptime

no holding

would be nice

at least i made it to full purple now

[red zinc]

ryu you realize these parses dont have shit to do with your damage right

Its literally just your m+ points from a dungeon compared to other outlaw rogues

[runic bough]

i donno its just nice to see no green or grey

but still dmg would be way better

if we didnt have to hold a finisher

or die from our finisher

utter nonsense

kinda wanna practice sin more this week

i have 2 mythic daggers now

[red zinc]

@vivid vessel did you see rookery no parasol skip tech

can just drop down with no fall damage and save a few seconds

[frail veldt]

@vivid vessel peep dis

not only do I get out in time and shouldnt have been hit int he first place

but my cheat fails...

what a death

just pressed Adr

have KiR coming back up with 6 buffs

wtf is this even?

im guessing that shit gives me a dot, should have cloaked asap

[vivid vessel]

Ye..

No

[frail veldt]

a dot that ticks infinitely fast?

like what

[vivid vessel]

You just got hit by 3 lines

[frail veldt]

I was out though

when Id ied lol

[vivid vessel]

Well

Ye but

Wow

[frail veldt]

and KS didnt stagger as usual

[vivid vessel]

Tbf it's your fault you should preposition on this boss to always be behind

[frail veldt]

yeah fair

wait

I was behidn

he TURNS to me and starts the lines

right as I press ks

lol

I had like half a second to move before ksing ig

[vivid vessel]

But ye the cheat doesn't work cause you get hit by 3 lines at once

Nah

It always fire the line toward mid

Of room

[frail veldt]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[vivid vessel]

Unless idk sometimes he doesn't but that like every very rare

[frail veldt]

wait does it?

yeah was gona say

[vivid vessel]

Ye

[frail veldt]

I noticed ithappen this time

randomly

fires it off to nowhere

later int he fight

[vivid vessel]

I think as long as you have a guy toward middle it fire toward middle always

[frail veldt]

im so out

[vivid vessel]

It's probably targeting farthest guy or smth

You are full melee so that's probably why

[frail veldt]

its an ele

but yeah

[vivid vessel]

Ye no nvm but

It did fire toward middle

So

[frail veldt]

oh well ggs I think that was the most tragic death ive ever had

still timed it ig

[polar kelp]

Lol your UI is so cluttered

:p

[frail veldt]

but did like 1mil less than I should have

[frail veldt]

I like everything close to the center

[polar kelp]

So do I you just have a lot going on

[frail veldt]

not sure what I would remove

[polar kelp]

But it's all preference obviously

All your bars/skills aside from the few with timers

[frail veldt]

they all have timers

none of those are bars theyre all was

[vivid vessel]

People saying ui and shit is preference

Are delusional

A bad ui is just worse

You will play worse

[polar kelp]

You have sinister strike on your screen for example

[frail veldt]

yeah but therse more than one way to skin a cat

[polar kelp]

You don't need it

[frail veldt]

thats there on purpose

when Iplay HO

its for audacity

and I dont want it to shift over

when I play kir

[red zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzVn3UR9-w4

aint easy

but oh well

[frail veldt]

howd he not die from fall damage

[red zinc]

Because the invis walls bug that shit out

[frail veldt]

and how did everyone instantly snap to them

[red zinc]

no fall damage there at all

[red zinc]

Warlock pets cuh

[frail veldt]

the players too

when the mage is falling theres no one there

then he hits the groun

d

and the whole team is there rofl

wtf is up with that

[red zinc]

Mayb its unloaded

[polar kelp]

Lag maybe?

[red zinc]

Until you get there

[frail veldt]

also thres no warlock in this group...

[red zinc]

So pc doesnt go boom

[frail veldt]

ye maybe

weirdge

[red zinc]

Oh

Its companion dungeon

Thats why

[frail veldt]

aaaaaaaaah

LOL

[tulip jewel]

mans didn’t wanna test it in a real key

pathetic

[polar kelp]

Tried a cinder 17 tonight and was going great until 2nd last boss where we had a full wipe and argument. What do you guys expect on bee boss....dps to do barrels or healer

[vivid vessel]

Outlaw doesn't need to risk anything for the skip

[tulip jewel]

at least we can grapple from far

[vivid vessel]

You just grapple over

I think it'd objectively better

[frail veldt]

like you go around and grapple the gap?

[tulip jewel]

ye

[frail veldt]

kinda slow to get there though no?

[tulip jewel]

I usually just parasol then grapple directly below from half way

[vivid vessel]

No it's not slow

[red zinc]

I mean for us grapple is equally fast

But you still gotta wait for the rest anyway

[vivid vessel]

Because you just jump.down immediately, no line up no having to run around

[tulip jewel]

I mean the skip in that vid shouldn’t be so bad since we can sprint the jump and grapple the landing

[vivid vessel]

It's bad

[red zinc]

cant sprint the jump thatll fuck it

[tulip jewel]

ah

[red zinc]

invis wall midair

[vivid vessel]

Because if you fail you are in the water

[red zinc]

just dont fail

[vivid vessel]

Ye but instead you can do something that never fails

And is equally fast

[red zinc]

For rogues yes

But again not everyone is a rogue

Parasol aint equally fast

[vivid vessel]

Yes but

Just be a rogue

[polar kelp]

Or just get a lock to gate everyone

[high sluice]

does ghostly strike increase the damage blade flurry does as well?

[tender wedge]

no, it's a damage taken on the specific target, not a damage done on you

[short fulcrum]

For us, Healer does but calls on voice when needs help for dps to do. Usually to set up before AoE.

I would say standard for healer to do unless they say

[tender wedge]

but also like

if it's clearly getting out of control, just help out

[raven condor]

Careful Zac will flame you for this 😉

[sacred rune]

sure can do

[golden sage]

@vivid vessel Why do you use SUF and not ElvUI, is it a matter of habit and you just so much more comfortable, or just SUF requires much less resources and because less drops in fps?

[vivid vessel]

I was using elvui in SL

It's just cause I don't use about 60% of elvui

And elvui is resource heavy

So I would rather have something with less, when I don't need most of it

Because I do a lot with weak auras anywya since I need heavy customisation for a lot of things

If anything I would want to find an alternative to shadowed unit frames tho

Cause that addon is kinda shit

Its slow to get updated

The UI is trash

Very old

And it's buggy for some stuffs

I would use unhalted frames or whatever the name is

But for some reason he don't wanna have raid frames support so

But maybe I can do without raid frame support as long as there is party frames idk

[jaunty plank]

[tiny crystal]

Is there any streamers that have some outlaw in raid I can watch and learn off ?

[dire dagger]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[vivid vessel]

hi

thanks

[simple relic]

hi

[vivid vessel]

thanks cuh, appreciate it

[sacred rune]

ill ping you once i added it

[vivid vessel]

tyty!

[jaunty plank]

My pleasure, hopefully it's useful

[vivid vessel]

Ye I briefly checked it's quite good already

I think for outlaw the most useful thing anywya is the apl checker

Cause well, the spec works like that anyway

[jaunty plank]

Yea that makes sense, hope I got the APL mostly right, I tried to follow the wowhead guide and the faq here

[vivid vessel]

ye its good

[unkempt dew]

Is Elvui bad for the game performance?

[vivid vessel]

will help people

[simple relic]

yo zac, i see ur playing hoc and magnet, are those your ideal trinkies or would you go something else if you had it

[red zinc]

He has all the trinkets

The difference between them is very marginal but theres a lot of damage amps, so id definitely run one on use at least

and magnet is a lot more consistent than bike since bike just fails to hit sometimes

[simple relic]

ye i currently only have bike and the bee charge one

on mythic so

and i have hc capo alrdy so i kinda wanna go for a trinket with dinars

was planing on w8ing for wed reclear gonna be in for mugzee so i wanted to buy the trinket from him/upgrade my capo to mythic

[vivid vessel]

Magnet imo is must have

It's actual prio

Doesn't split

And you can keep it for damage amps etc

Very good trinket

Hoc vs bike idk

Whatever

Bike can fail if you miss your targets I guess so

[wintry solar]

I mean to brag but I got heroic hoc week 2

[north lintel]

Sup guys, is it better to have capo in MH or OF ? OF because of our mastery ?

[red zinc]

Bike is cringe asf

Misses on so many bosses

[simple relic]

what about mugzee passive trinky, or u just pref having 2 on use for prio

[red zinc]

Very bad on aoe

Shouldnt use in m+

[simple relic]

hmm ok

then idk ill just buy mythic capo if it doesent drop wed

or mybe magnet but id rather have magnet just drop since noneone really wants it

[vivid vessel]

Don't use it fucks the weapon

Also magnet is an on use without the downsides of an on use

Aka you can hold it forever if you want to

[simple relic]

thanks

[leaden folio]

im playing vexie and mugzee trinket

vexie have some issue like the 1rst boss of rookerie. if you use it while the boss is in center. your bike drop on the void

also mugzee giga cringe because like some dkuh pet (the mage) he have bad pathing and dont get shroud etc..

actually my mugzee trinket have done some cringe bodypull so you should avoid

[vivid vessel]

you shouldnt use mug trinket

makes nightfall weapon not worki

[leaden folio]

ye there is this issue too

have no idea. have to do more key. but i think kezan should be the play on a lot of scenario

[crisp condor]

Pacemaker and signet here due to lack of mythic raid. If I could get hero funhouse lens that sims pretty well too

Tried using the bee on use and hated life

[still marsh]

Imagine if blizz added glyph for ks to have it like wotlk, no movement

[hidden bay]

Something taking up all class dev time

Probably housing

Wild not to have any class changes for 2 minor patches in a row

[radiant fiber]

!tricks

[ornate heath]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[golden sage]

When need to use cards? On CD on pack or?

[nocturne folio]

On cd, just dont use it on air

[wintry solar]

The bug fixes were pretty big tbf

Unless you mean changes changes

[vivid vessel]

he means changes

[hidden bay]

I literally only care about ks

No ks or fixed ks

[tropic zephyr]

i love ks, it's such a rewarding ability to press!

KS COUP KS COUP

[iron quail]

once every key i die to that stupid thing. if i wouldnt use my cloak so liberatly bcs im playing lowkeys ( 14-15s) i would die 5 times a key

[drowsy pebble]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[vivid vessel]

I do 19s keys

And I don't use cloak as a defensive anymore

It's just there for ks only

It's so shit

[iron quail]

at least im not alone with that XD

[simple relic]

can you still get the nightfall weap

[past sphinx]

@vivid vessel i want ur spotify playlist

[vivid vessel]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1RYPgbLiAvl9uA3BZRhomY?si=1KWaCsESSr6rp8w61K-RAg&pi=Zdi99yyhQeqK1

[gaunt phoenix]

Uwu

[past sphinx]

[gaunt phoenix]

Yep

[simple relic]

ok just was wonderin if its some limited time event or sum shit like kazzak neck was

[vagrant saddle]

i dont get the hate for ks, its a get out of jail free card

[simple relic]

can they put cloak on our cdr as well since we have to play ks tho

thoughts?

[vivid vessel]

Out of m+ jail?

[pliant wind]

my feelings with KiR are... i dont know, everytime i try it, it feels strange, so many SS

haha

feels like im not doing damage

[blissful idol]

Free dornogal teleport

[short fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/mgs4-snake-bait-old-snake-mgs-bait-bait-used-to-be-believable-gif-16665329923744849402

[hasty warren]

yo pirates

[vagrant saddle]

why did u die to <easily avoidable aoe>? Why didnt u kick? Why didnt u switch target? Etc etc... i was in ks

[vivid vessel]

[mighty pivot]

Always send 10 cp ks so that you have time to take a sip of your favourite drink

[simple relic]

idk i have a tick to always scratch back of my head whenever i press ks

[mighty pivot]

The designer who decided to extend its duration per cp had your hydration levels in mind

[red zinc]

Having sahbabii on there so valid

[vivid vessel]

Who is that

[vagrant saddle]

if u r not rolling before ks and making sure u have full cp u r just doing it wrong

[glass silo]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[delicate barn]

Any roll now RTB WA for the lazy?

[vivid vessel]

Roll till 5 buff

[red zinc]

KEEP GAMBLING

[gaunt phoenix]

corruptions tomorrow

3% damage

[simple relic]

can you make a pinned message for corruptions

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

surely they won't tune them again in 26 hours

[blissful idol]

Is it a socket that gets added to helmet ?

[simple relic]

sueraly

[gaunt phoenix]

no its an enchant

[mighty pivot]

Is it even 3%? Wasn't it less?

[blissful idol]

Even better

[gaunt phoenix]

it was around 3%

for outlaw at least

[vivid vessel]

is it

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

[vivid vessel]

why didnt it just go out day 1

[gaunt phoenix]

not for you

eu wednesday

[blissful idol]

How long do you need to grind to get it ?

[gaunt phoenix]

idk

[simple relic]

no way they shipping it to us first

last again..

[leaden folio]

is someone ptr test

how much time to have it

[wintry solar]

Don't you know it's best to stagger the content of the patch over the duration of said patch EVEN IF it means the patch launches woth nothing?

Game dev 101

[leaden folio]

can i get it before raid for free parsing ?

[tulip condor]

yo anyone got the change weapon wa?

[wintry solar]

Never release content on patch day

[blissful idol]

https://wago.io/elwWiwJax

[tulip condor]

ty

[tight kernel]

Oh yeah I guess that’s a good question. I wonder if you’ll be able to get max rank corruption on reset or if time gated like everything else

[wintry solar]

I'm pretty sure it's just the enchant

Unless I'm misunderstanding something

[shut lichen]

2 days till i can spam 8 mask runs

[near holly]

i think i read on wowhead you can get the greater enchant after 4 vision runs if you do it right. so i think you can get it straight away fairly quick?

[hidden bay]

Because time gating is more money

Can i use same corruotion for sin raid logging and outlaw weeklies tho

[covert kestrel]

So does anyone know if there's catchup on dinars or do I want to spam those 4 dungeons today if you miss this first week

[past sphinx]

i hope i wake up tomorrow and see a KS rework

[shut lichen]

[past sphinx]

first boss flood is so cursed for me

[hidden bay]

We all hope for that

Unfortunately is looking like 11.2 is the closest

Since no class changes annouced yet again for minor patch

[wintry solar]

KS next season is looking so bad

It's a shame too because I love dawnbreaker

[past sphinx]

if we get dawnbreaker ontop of still having ks

i'm done

[mighty pivot]

Np the new KS will give you skyriding while active

Make sure to only KS with 4 vigor

[past sphinx]

zacs playlist is lit, even though i don't know how to speak french or w/e it is

[simple relic]

guys if you swap before vanish and then proc the weap and then swap back

is that a valid optimization

[mighty pivot]

Swapping in combat costs a gcd

[vapid sundial]

I can't believe this.

I quit wow and Blizzard decides to go ahead and fix everything for outlaw.
Almost everything. For some reason they decided to fix our bugs and bump up our damage! But here we are still forced to use Killing Spree, as if the discourse in this Discord wasn't enough by itself to tell the devs we HATE IT.
I'm so sick of this. I quit, they buff outlaw, I quit, they fix outlaw.
It's like a cycle. Every single time I want to move away these devs look at my discord in particular and decide, you know what, no. You don't get to quit! Get your ass back here!

But NO. . not this time! I will stay away until they FIX TROLLING SPREE. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH. GET RID OF IT.

[simple relic]

ye thought so

ok

[hidden bay]

Pls stay quit until ks fix

[red zinc]

what

out of every boss?

[past sphinx]

ya

[vapid sundial]

That dungeon is cursed

[weary fog]

i like first boss flood

[past sphinx]

too many frontals

[brisk meadow]

[weary fog]

PC makes big number on that boss and big number makes me happy

[past sphinx]

lsat pack swirlies?\

trolling right

[patent mirage]

ks hasnt claimed enough souls yet

[red zinc]

first boss is literally one of the easiest bosses with ks

like who cares if u get hit kek

not that you ever do

[patent mirage]

use it on swampface too

just do it

[vivid vessel]

Ryukage - Ex-Outlaw

[red zinc]

I mean as long as you use it when you arent linked and after frontal its fine

People just gotta stand under boss

[weary fog]

nah send that shit when ur linked

[vapid sundial]

That's what I was going for with it

[past sphinx]

first pull flood makes me want to quit target capped spec

[weary fog]

i pop KS on cd on swampface and its fine

[simple relic]

hey zaCcCc do you cancel snd cuz alacrity refresh?

[patent mirage]

i wish we had ks during sludgefist

[past sphinx]

first pull ws*

[vivid vessel]

not sending if you are linked is cooked

thats bad player behavior

0 damage doer

[red zinc]

Im not doing that though

i literally say after frontal

You are linked then

[simple relic]

me and my other rogue friend which i will not name and i will not name myself are wondering if that is why u do it for or is it some other reason behind it

all you have to know is that im a swifty

[patent mirage]

do swampface with 2 other rogues

[red zinc]

the timings for ks where you dont troll someone are after the frontal and after the water waves (at which point you arent linked)

[patent mirage]

and everyone use ks

[red zinc]

Probably not optimal but at least nobody dies

[weary fog]

ive never had problems sending during water waves

[red zinc]

I mean im sure its fine since those waves dont do that much damage

Just cba complaints

The only point of the dungeon i did the same damage as vurai/zac so

he cant hate too much

[simple relic]

zaCCCcCc

[patent igloo]

guys I was playing HO instead of KiR, but today checking logs and talents for m+ noticed that KiR is doing more overall and people is playing it over HO. I just switched talents but I feel like something is wrong, do we have more haste on KiR than HO maybe?

[simple relic]

ye u need 19 20

[red zinc]

!haste

[ornate heath]

Total stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush lowers your GCD based on it, down to 0.8s at 25% haste.

The KIR build wants 18-20% haste from rating, because its only haste buff is from Alacrity.

The HO build meets this requirement with 8-10% haste from rating because of Take 'em by Surprise, but the new HO + Supercharger build continues to like Haste just because of energy, so you will have to sim. Your sim may settle for KIR-levels of haste (~18%) or slightly lower.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use.
You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[shut lichen]

u need like 18-20% haste

[patent igloo]

I see, that's why I lost a lot of AR buff

I couldn't hold it

was always out of energy

[simple relic]

what if

just bad

[vivid vessel]

why after frontal

if frontal is done

why do i care

[simple relic]

lmao i love throwing ppl around on that boss

when i see i displace someone a part of me smiles

zac sorry mister

can you answer my prev questione

[late swallow]

[simple relic]

really sorry mista

[late swallow]

[red zinc]

get a tissue when you’re done eh

jeezus

[simple relic]

timmy

do you have the answer

[vapid sundial]

[simple relic]

mista

[late swallow]

Ryker hope ur having a nice morning

[vivid vessel]

there is a rogue named mistarogue

[vapid sundial]

bro im vibing rn

gonna ruin urs

yppm

[vivid vessel]

or smth

[vapid sundial]

go back to watching him now

[late swallow]

You simply can’t

[simple relic]

huh, im just asking do you cancel snd to extend haste

or is there some other reason

[vapid sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/779127454044258365/1352491201969913886/watermark.gif

[simple relic]

lmao theres a gif of me doing the exact same shit

[late swallow]

I got 40k steps in barefoot shoes yesterday

[simple relic]

almost exact location of the bomb and angle

[late swallow]

Calves are ruined

[vivid vessel]

For fun

[simple relic]

no way its for fun

[late swallow]

Ya it was fun af weather was bootiful

[simple relic]

w8 im confused i thought he was answering me

i guess he just ignorin me

whatevz

[late swallow]

Zac prolly blocked you already king

[red zinc]

[late swallow]

He doesn’t like yappers

[red zinc]

fuck zac on EVERYONES souls

[late swallow]

Nah zac’s the homie

He’s helping me with my grad school app

[jolly geyser]

zac should sing whitney houston on stream

[vivid vessel]

ye

[red zinc]

wait like no flame or anything

[blissful idol]

Zac loaned me all his wa’s, great guy

[red zinc]

but the butter microwave pasta guy gives life advice?

Crazy

[late swallow]

Doesn’t have time to cook while he’s working on his dissertation

[simple relic]

ok

[red zinc]

I stole all of zac’s wa’s from a third party, great guy

[simple relic]

thx for le answerino

[late swallow]

Zac goes to École normale supérieure

[vapid sundial]

English mfer

I dont want your

enchanting table

[shut lichen]

the normal superior school?

[late swallow]

A lot of people don’t know this, but he’s actually Michele foucault’s estranged son

[shut lichen]

zac must be old then

lying about ur age on the internet smh

[red zinc]

Who

[shut lichen]

french historian/philosopher/Yapper

lil bro died in like the 80s

[simple relic]

who asked buddy

[white marten]

At what point do we stop using the siren isles ring?

[vapid sundial]

when sim tells you to

[gaunt phoenix]

usually a good vers ring will beat it

[white marten]

Ah okay- myth tier vers ring, id imagine

[vapid sundial]

Ye, but again just sim

Thats normall the answer for gear

[white marten]

Kk ty, babe

Bro*

mb stupid autocorrect amirite?

[vapid sundial]

[gaunt phoenix]

can be heroic or crafted

there are not many vers rings

[white marten]

Kk, ill sim. Ty solo

[gaunt phoenix]

crafted, pvp, roulette, theater

Dfc has high haste low vers

[simple relic]

we should scale well into next patch tho no?

[gaunt phoenix]

scale?

[vapid sundial]

[simple relic]

now that we have haste as prio

[vapid sundial]

No

Thats not how it works

[simple relic]

we getting the actual things like vers and crit or

[vapid sundial]

we have haste prio until a certain %

Then you stop picking it up and go back crit vers

we still dont scale really well with stats

[simple relic]

cuz like 20% crit 25% vers that i currently have

seem like low numbers

cuz of haste taking most of my gear shit

[blissful idol]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/tarren-mill/Dandybingo
what craft with last spark?