outlaw

[red zinc]

zeross some guy said outlaw was better than assa earlier

[proven ocean]

omgogmg

[red zinc]

Go get him

[vivid vessel]

why tf do i care if i have to spend 10 min doing a questline

its a rpg

make sense i do a questline

[proven ocean]

is he around

so he can suck my balls

or?

[vivid vessel]

I couldnt care less about a questline my guy

[cold jewel]

not much to suck if we are being honest

[vivid vessel]

i would rather do a questline every day for a legendary

rahter than

rnging

it

cause

then

you spend an entire tier

NOT DROPPING

I RERMEMEBER SYLVANAS DAGGER

AND I PROBABLY GOT IT BEFORE YOU

YOU PROLLY NEVER GOT IT

USING LFR DAGGER

I SEE YOU

[quasi verge]

ruh roh

[glass mortar]

i think u gave zac ptsd

[vivid vessel]

I HAD THE DAGGER

[icy cedar]

i didnt get sylvanas dagger until the the week before dinars lol

[vivid vessel]

FROM FIRST VAULT

IN MYTHIC

[glass mortar]

i just wanted to have a fun discussion about what void legendary we are getting next season

[vivid vessel]

WHY DO I CARE

I DONT CARE

[glass mortar]

and now zac is crashing out

on a monday

[vivid vessel]

MY VAULTS ARE ALWAYS GOATED BRO

[red zinc]

DONT YOU GIVE UP ON A MONDAY

[cold jewel]

[red zinc]

[glass mortar]

we havent even made it to our friday ptr drop of no kspree rework

[icy cedar]

killed Sylvanas weekly for an entire patch, get it last week or two weeks before you can just buy it

[glass mortar]

its too early for this

[vivid vessel]

KING SHIT BRO

[red zinc]

Thursday ill have you know

[vivid vessel]

@haughty wigeon SHOW ME YOUR TRINKETS

[cloud thunder]

Chatting~1

[red zinc]

i am the rank 1 ptr doomer

[cold jewel]

this shit is so fake

[vivid vessel]

??

[red zinc]

Literally doctored i can see the ai

[vivid vessel]

alright

one sec

[cold jewel]

its doctored as fuck

[vivid vessel]

let me login

[red zinc]

The goon squad has 6 fingers

or something

[haughty wigeon]

Notmal dagger actually

[proven ocean]

thats it?

i have more trinkets than u actually

[vivid vessel]

i have them all

wdym youi have more

[icy cedar]

Outlaw needs an ability called The Long Con that lets us go hostile to our allies and neutral/friendly with mobs. I have no idea what the practical benefits of this would be.

[proven ocean]

ye but

[vivid vessel]

its not even possible

[proven ocean]

i have the delves ones too

so

[cold jewel]

HE SENT A VIDEO

[vivid vessel]

ye same

[cold jewel]

[proven ocean]

but

i have the open world trinkets too zac

do u?

do u?!??

[vivid vessel]

GET OWNED

NOT DOCTORED

[proven ocean]

didnt think so

zac

[vivid vessel]

REAL KING SHIT

[proven ocean]

GET OWNED zac

[vivid vessel]

EVERY TRINKET

[proven ocean]

LOLOLOLO

[vivid vessel]

YOU GOT THAT BRO ? /

[proven ocean]

LOLOLO

LOLO

LO

[royal hollow]

ai video

[cold jewel]

bro i didnt hear your voice this could be anybody's

[proven ocean]

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[red zinc]

bet u dont have myth buzzer (bis trinket i saw it on bloodmallet)

[glass mortar]

cant believe zac just chatgptd a video

[royal hollow]

so easy in 2025

[glass mortar]

to try to flex trinkets on us

kinda crazy

[proven ocean]

ZAC

CAN U TELL US A FACT

QUICK

REAL QUICK

LIKE

SOMETHING BIGGY WIGGY CUH SHEESH CUH?

OR

GOGO

?

!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[vivid vessel]

NOT INTERESTED BY THIS TRINKET

[cold jewel]

biggy wiggy should be a banable offence

noah fence

[red zinc]

who is noah

[vivid vessel]

im about to noah fence your ass bro

[icy cedar]

i don't see the best trinket - the conductor's whistle, cart goes choochoo

[vivid vessel]

trash

I DONT USE TRASH TRINKETS

ONLY THE BEST ONES

[proven ocean]

[copper radish]

676? Pshhhh not even 683 yet

[icy cedar]

everyone can see it, it jukes them and freaks them out, it's hilarious

[haughty wigeon]

Bis trinket, you ride a bee

[cold jewel]

crazy style?

[royal hollow]

best ai tools

[vivid vessel]

bis for noobs that dont raid

[icy cedar]

it also cancels killing spree so it can save your life i hear

[haughty wigeon]

10061191617% increase

[vivid vessel]

NOOBS THAT WOULD NEVER GET THEIR RAID LEGENDARY

BTW

[cloud thunder]

[raven condor]

Just macro it with ks and the positioning doesn't matter

[vivid vessel]

@haughty wigeon

YOU

[raven condor]

[haughty wigeon]

Gambling vs bee riding

[vivid vessel]

!!!!!

[proven ocean]

zac[GOON]
— 12:54 AM
!!!!!

zac[GOON]
— 12:54 AM
!!!!!

zac[GOON]
— 12:54 AM
!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC

[red zinc]

Crashing out on a monday is crazy

[vivid vessel]

you dont even have the og gooner tag

[red zinc]

Dogwoofwoof could never

[proven ocean]

og

no no

gooner tag

is for noobs

only

-100 rio

no cappi

!

omgoo

[icy cedar]

so does anyone else thing this turboboost shit is the most blatant attempt to keep people subbed for an entire patch they've ever done?

[proven ocean]

zac

guess

wath

whta

waht

[haughty wigeon]

I got my axe lego! I’ve paid my dues

[proven ocean]

whta

what*

zac

u have to farm lfightsotnes

[vivid vessel]

in hc difficulty probably

[proven ocean]

cuz

[vivid vessel]

lfr*

[proven ocean]

flightstones will be hard

[vivid vessel]

sorry

[red zinc]

im staying subbed regardless because i have a crippling addiction!

[proven ocean]

to get

nesqueek

zac

[haughty wigeon]

Rood

[proven ocean]

ok

?

[glass mortar]

in what way?

[vivid vessel]

who is nesqueek

[raven condor]

it's to entice people to boost

[proven ocean]

nesqueek is nextweek but in duck's language

[haughty wigeon]

LOL NO?

[icy cedar]

I'm gonna farm to 684 in a week and then quit just to show them

[haughty wigeon]

Imagine

[vivid vessel]

i litteraly alreayd farmed it

[haughty wigeon]

Paying stupid amounts of gold and or real money for mythic gally

[vivid vessel]

actual skill issue if you havent

[proven ocean]

GUYS

OK

lisTen

to what i have to say

[vivid vessel]

shit ready to transmute in my bag

[proven ocean]

because

this is important

[haughty wigeon]

In probably one of the better raid tiers

[cold jewel]

everything they do is a blatant attempt at keeping people subbed

[proven ocean]

ok

[cold jewel]

like it's not a secret

[vivid vessel]

im speedrunning that shit

day 1

[proven ocean]

i have no words to say u can go back to sleep

guys

can we keep quiet

i cant kepe up with chat

like

u guys

are tpying

[haughty wigeon]

Literally just join a good guild and kill mythic fally

[proven ocean]

alo

tlike

holy shit

[raven condor]

who the fuck is actually getting to myth gally this late in the patch without a guild already doing it y'know

[proven ocean]

relax or

?

[red zinc]

Business wants to make money; more news at 5

[proven ocean]

zac

[cold jewel]

just buy a lockout 4Head

[vivid vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/pipotam-baby-hippo-hippo-wash-shower-gif-3406421565683572068

[red zinc]

[proven ocean]

do i make magno puree coffee

or

mango*

[vivid vessel]

cock coffee

[raven condor]

EXACTLY LMAO

[vivid vessel]

tought ?

[red zinc]

eat my mango puree nuts

[proven ocean]

we have to ferment the beans with ur cock

so

[haughty wigeon]

People saying turbo and dinars are gonna encourage boosting

[vivid vessel]

yooo

[haughty wigeon]

Is so

Brain dead

[vivid vessel]

all my chars are capped on valorstone

[proven ocean]

WTF

NO WAY

ARE U

[red zinc]

Thats literally true

[proven ocean]

ACTUALLY?

[vivid vessel]

THIS SHIT IS GETTING UPGRADED DAY ONE

!!!!

[proven ocean]

LOLOLO?

[red zinc]

Doesnt matter though

[proven ocean]

LOLOLO?

ZAC

lololo

?

!

[haughty wigeon]

I’m prepared

[proven ocean]

?

!

?

!

aokpdw,ad[poawlk,daopl'dfkem,fva[perkm,vatbimvatba

[hollow temple]

...

[proven ocean]

guys

[haughty wigeon]

I have max crests and max valor

[proven ocean]

okl

listen

[vivid vessel]

no im not come farm valor with me ross @proven ocean

[proven ocean]

WHY NOT

BUT

I LOVE FARMING VLAORNSOTNES

[red zinc]

ok can we take these fellows out back for a bit

[proven ocean]

???

[vivid vessel]

wait

isnt valor infinite

i can make a bunch of alts

[proven ocean]

mno

no

[haughty wigeon]

Gonna have max level mythic weapon day one

[proven ocean]

like

oh

ye

[vivid vessel]

and redeem the quests

[proven ocean]

true

wait

[haughty wigeon]

[proven ocean]

zac

[vivid vessel]

that give valor

[icy cedar]

yes

[proven ocean]

what questslike

[vivid vessel]

right

[proven ocean]

where do i get

ok

chat

[cold jewel]

on a real note, a lot of people. mfs will have 10 ilvl this upcoming week on top of the ramping dps/healing buff on top of all of the nerfs. There will be plenty of gally kills between now and end of the season

[proven ocean]

anyone has a valorstone guide

[vivid vessel]

from the renown from s1

[proven ocean]

for alts

[vivid vessel]

lol

[proven ocean]

to send things

like

or?

[icy cedar]

i did that on my alts yesterday, logged onto each one and talked to the renown dudes

[proven ocean]

where

[icy cedar]

super tedious

[proven ocean]

OMGOGOGMOGOOOOOOOO

ZAC

GUESS WHAT

IMAGINE

[vivid vessel]

this guy holding 2k valor

[proven ocean]

I HAVE BIG TECH

ZAC

zac

listen

ok

for once

[haughty wigeon]

It’ll still be expensive af during the start

[proven ocean]

for real this time

ok

no meme

!

[vivid vessel]

nvm

[glass mortar]

do u guys also have 900 of every other type of crest saved up to convert

[proven ocean]

u have alts with gilded crests

zac

?

or

[glass mortar]

LOL

[proven ocean]

?

cuz

[haughty wigeon]

End of season who cares?

[proven ocean]

like

[cold jewel]

i was referring to people killing it normally

[vivid vessel]

ye i do

[proven ocean]

if u have alts with gilded crests

u can upgrade all ur titems

to

684

with

10 crests

per

upgrade

[vivid vessel]

yeye i know

[proven ocean]

but

[vivid vessel]

im doing that on my monk

[proven ocean]

u have to upgrade

ur alts first

oh

ok

[vivid vessel]

xddd

[proven ocean]

zac

but

is ur monk actually

geared

or

?

[vivid vessel]

no

[haughty wigeon]

Heck it might still be expensive season end too

[patent mirage]

o

h

[vivid vessel]

its trash

like 658

[proven ocean]

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

[vivid vessel]

ilvl

[proven ocean]

oh

ok

but

[cold jewel]

one day zeross will figure out he can type everything he wants to say in 1 message

[proven ocean]

if u have like

1-2 items

its good right

[vivid vessel]

but he will have 3 slots

[proven ocean]

hmm

3

[vivid vessel]

678 so

[proven ocean]

not bad

oh

[patent mirage]

sentences

[proven ocean]

678

like

ur ready already

wtf zac

[vivid vessel]

no i mean

[proven ocean]

cheating or?

[vivid vessel]

on reset i think

[proven ocean]

zac i ordered some chicken sandwich

sheeesh

[vivid vessel]

let me check my dh tho

[proven ocean]

zac

we dont have

french tacos

here

what do i do

[lapis forge]

with 1FtH, should I wait for 2 stacks of opp or can I send it at 1?

[proven ocean]

?!?

[vivid vessel]

ye i know

[proven ocean]

or

[vivid vessel]

its french

[proven ocean]

well

[vivid vessel]

send

[proven ocean]

can u tell the french guys

to sell some here

or

is it for french ppl only

[vivid vessel]

just dont send at 5 cps or +

or 4 cp with bs

[proven ocean]

zac is french tacos gonna make me farm rio in the toilet for 2-3 weeks?

or is it clean

[vivid vessel]

nah its clean cuh

its not indian food its not spicy

just for fat people

[proven ocean]

ok

guys

how do i get valor stones

on my dk now

[vivid vessel]

fuck my dh doesnt even have a single mythic piece

[proven ocean]

where quests

?

[haughty wigeon]

Do story quests

[vivid vessel]

he is so cooked or what

[haughty wigeon]

Max in 2 seconds

[proven ocean]

anyone has quests thing

or?

[vivid vessel]

ah nvm he has a head aswell

[proven ocean]

quest guides

[proven ocean]

which

wher

[haughty wigeon]

Undermine story quests

Or like

Idk any story quest

Start one in dornagol

[light kernel]

Whats the cook?

[haughty wigeon]

I don’t believe u did all the story quests

[proven ocean]

ghuyys

if i upgrade

2h wep

to 684 on reset

is it ogonna make my daggers

all 684

or

?

[blissful violet]

@vivid vessel are we allowed to be in here ?

[proven ocean]

like

discounted

or no?

[vivid vessel]

why cant i buy gilded with runed on this char

[vivid vessel]

no, fuckl off noob

[proven ocean]

zac

u know what

wanna farm +12s

after i eat

[blissful violet]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-reaction-reaction-elite-dangerous-borann-boys-gif-25049405

[proven ocean]

or

?

[light kernel]

Wait if u upgrade an item on another it costs 10 depending on slot for other char?

[proven ocean]

brb food

cuh

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

b rb

[glass mortar]

u cant trade up crests until you've invalidated the need for those crests

so gear issue

[vivid vessel]

????

no way

hm

[latent oak]

u need runed of the undermine before u can trade up ya

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean do you need weeklies

i need to do one weekly on dh

so i have 2 items to upgrade

hm this is cooked

[proven ocean]

Ok

I eat first

We do after

[light kernel]

Zac whats the cook

[vivid vessel]

upgrade on alts

some slots

to have to spend less on main

so you can do everything day one

on reset

im almost ready i think cause

i havbe a lot banked

but i will need more

you always need more

[light kernel]

Thx

[glass mortar]

i have 8000 rn

maybe 10000?

i dont think ive capped out my dk

[vivid vessel]

WDYM

[royal hollow]

so as long as you have that one slot maxed out on one character, you'll get a discount on that slot in all characters?

[light kernel]

Upgrade only mythic track items and crafted ones r?

[vivid vessel]

10K??

[glass mortar]

i have 4 characters with 2k

[vivid vessel]

ah valor

i meant gilded

[glass mortar]

oh gilded ye

i have 60 xd

and like 900 of every other crest

on my monk and rogue

[vivid vessel]

900 of other is solid work

i have them in my bag tho

i bought the items

[glass mortar]

nice

[vivid vessel]

so i dont even know how much i have

[remote pecan]

wth happened here

my 99 went to 98 with more parses but still rank 3 wth

[vivid vessel]

r3 is a 98 ?

gg

man

back in my days this was a blue

you should be happy

[remote pecan]

only happy when i see pink

[vivid vessel]

same but gold

im washed up rn

missing one

can i buy valorstone with irl money

i will do it blizzard

just give me the way

[vapid sundial]

Means theres like 0 people

but 1-2 more or so killed

[remote pecan]

your math isnt mathing, more parses widens the parse brackets not narrows them and my rank hasnt moved

[vapid sundial]

It is tho

what

[vivid vessel]

the number is just not accurate till its locked

its often that way

idk

dont try to understand it

[vapid sundial]

That too

[vivid vessel]

its whatever

[vapid sundial]

parses can also get dqd

[remote pecan]

hmm they round down i get it now it'a a 98.73% parse

sucks

[vivid vessel]

skill issue

[remote pecan]

guess i need to do better

[proven ocean]

Zac

Nvm fuck weeklies

[vivid vessel]

just one ?

quick in and out

[lapis forge]

20 minute adventure?

[vivid vessel]

ye fr

[latent oak]

15 rook up for triple outlaw gogogogo

[vivid vessel]

if they dont take me

i come

for the valorstone

[proven ocean]

i think i ate too much i need to help my fried psf 18 resilient

[vivid vessel]

[proven ocean]

ok

[vivid vessel]

!!!

[proven ocean]

i cancelled same time they might take u

[blissful violet]

@vivid vessel nice class bro the 2 same people speaking over and over

[vivid vessel]

so what

you are ass

[blissful violet]

Proof

[vivid vessel]

bro

some weirdos out there

no cap

[random stirrup]

???

[latent belfry]

how much haste does simc usually tell you guys to go with on an M+ OH build? it keeps telling to go with around 13-14% through all my siming but lowkey it kinda feels awful because i feel like I'm constantly at low energy, that or it just feels that way for me because I'm doing something wrong in the rotation or whatever

[vivid vessel]

hm

true

[blissful violet]

Furry femboy interesting

[gaunt phoenix]

are you using the m+ version without ghostly strike

[daring oxide]

lmfao

[latent belfry]

yas

[gaunt phoenix]

then u dont need mega haste

13-14% sounds very normal

[blissful violet]

Excuse me ??

[latent belfry]

ok t

im jus bad then ok

[hasty fable]

we getting a "Mid-expantion Retrospective" post on wowhead? Because I got a few for the wish list 🫡

[gaunt phoenix]

ya ofc

[high parrot]

okay for KIR am i rolling anytime these buffs are at 41s or yellow? i feel like im losing time on good buffs

is rolling more just more important

[glass mortar]

if u roll at 41s the max u can lose is 2s tho

41s AND yellow

[high parrot]

but if i roll at 10s i get 20 more seconds if i natty 5 buff

[glass mortar]

u dont roll at 41s with a full set of buffs u will lose

[proven ocean]

sends questionable things

no surprise

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes it is better to roll at 41s to get supercharger than to skip it

[glass mortar]

just to be clear, the 41s check is assuming you are rerolling Kir buffs, not buffs u will guarentee roll away

the rule ur thinking of (just press RtB even if you might lose all ur buffs) is the 10s roll I believe

[gaunt phoenix]

ya you KIR a natural 5 buff, all or most of your buffs are yellow, great you can roll at 41s, then you roll again at 10s or so

if you didnt get 5 again ofc

[blissful violet]

Bro what 😭

Not in front of the huzz

[delicate seal]

Why is all your gear saying hello to you

[latent belfry]

wym

[random stirrup]

belf male 💀

[latent belfry]

the mogs look sexy

[copper radish]

Damn you’re cooked time to go into hiding

[latent belfry]

oh ion even know lmao jus noticed that

[blissful violet]

Wdym?
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[glass mortar]

the interpol one ive seen in guild discord

havent seen the thought blurb tho

good memes

[royal hollow]

[blissful violet]

I'm just here for @vivid vessel but he doesn't love me

😭 🥀

[teal wing]

healer diff

[blissful violet]

Is this rizz

[vivid vessel]

o

[keen belfry]

is this yeat thing real or is he doing it

[cold jewel]

yes

[latent belfry]

no

[blissful violet]

Yeat would say how does he does it

[glass mortar]

no

thats a custom message u can set

the other is a copypasta

[fluid meadow]

what will be the fastest way for crests and valorstones? doing 10s, or grab low io players and boost in every dungeon just by 1 keylvl to get extra valorstone? which will be more problematic for upgreades? or any better tactic for farm (don't have any alt)?

[cold jewel]

weran what do you eat for breakfast

[glass mortar]

i usually dont

[cold jewel]

ya same

[glass mortar]

roll out of bed 3m before i need to be driving to work

sprint to car

maybe stop for coffee somewhere along the way

on the weekends i have eggos with PB

or granola

[blissful violet]

I just run 11s idk

For crests

[glass mortar]

get a group of gamers together with at least 1 person with resiliant 12s

and spam 12s

[cold jewel]

^

[glass mortar]

crest per dungeon scales all the way up to 12s and 12s r ez

[blissful violet]

Next update we need like 400+ crests to upgrade all gear

[cold jewel]

thats what i do unless affix is free

/not annoying

[red zinc]

workshop is un brute forceable

[red zinc]

cant even time the key cause people keep doing weird shit on 3rd boss and last skip

[late swallow]

Doing the skip is the british kid over explaining meme

[remote pike]

got a lil question gamers, does melee and blade flurry work? as in does my melee attack hit 8x targets

[late swallow]

Yeah auto attacks get flurried

[remote pike]

awesome, okay

[high parrot]

sorry i got into a key but okay thanks so if you got yellow buffs ticking down wait till ~41s and reroll them because the value of the supercharger is high enough that you dont care if you overwrite 5 buff and lose 2s on them

[glass mortar]

yea 2s on some buffs is w/e

[high parrot]

got it its just felt wasteful the times that i rolled yellow 5buff into red 5 buff

i owould think like .. damn if i waited i could have had a fresh 5 buff

[gaunt phoenix]

it happens, if we could guarantee 5 buffs there would be different rules

[copper radish]

does any1 have a weak aura that tracks 5 buff rolls in a row?

[high parrot]

thank you boys

[royal hollow]

have we tested to delay rtb if willlose buffs are like BS/TB? sometimes it feels bad to rtb when i have all 6 but the 2 will.lose ones are BS/TB/RP

[harsh ocean]

I feel like making killing spree non-cancerous would be so easy right?

[keen belfry]

i swear RTB doesnt work in floodgate

specifically the sewer

sewer buff uptime

[covert kestrel]

Don’t have to farm those crests if you stop playing

[ember goblet]

!logs

[remote pike]

I think I just carried a key boys, not 100% sure..
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GFCBWq6Vnbj3PDN8?fight=last&type=damage-done

[past sphinx]

Spriest in group

[remote pike]

xD

i was really sure he was gonna pump on bosses

but no, my fkn kir carried bosses for absolutely no reason

[random stirrup]

why is your bdk competing for 2nd dps spot on all bosses

[remote pike]

yeah i was about to say, its more likely that the blood dk actually carried where the other dps f*d up

[random stirrup]

he is beating both casters during lust on blazikon

[remote pike]

xD

[random stirrup]

some suspicious stuff going on there

[remote pike]

it was his key

I just dont know how they both got up to +15s with gameplay like that

[raven condor]

For some it's blind luck

like stars align and they don't get targeted by mechanics, cruise by through the key and pull barely acceptable dps

It's how I've got where i am LMAO 🤡

(and I'm not even pushing 15s or anything lmao)

[remote pike]

u might be right 😄

[raven condor]

IDK there's definitely some that I'll do 14s with where there's no fucking way they played at that level all the way to resil 12/13's without it being a soft carry

And everyone has a shit key here or there

[frail veldt]

Can't lose score in m+

And with resil there's even more people at ratings they barely deserve haha

[still fiber]

Hi guys, any good WA to track cd's, rolls and other outlaw stuff? I haven't found any that convince me

[lapis forge]

the Luxthos WA pack is a good start

[bright crane]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[bright crane]

If these don’t work for you then I guess it’s time to start making your own

[peak dock]

i might be asking a stupid question but can cudgel earthquake cause some fps loss in big packs ? xD

[still fiber]

tyty ^^

[still fiber]

tyy

[icy cedar]

what's the fastest valorstone/hour

someone claims it's bountiful delves

[runic bough]

killing that dude is really fast

pinking or whatever

[torpid fiber]

Luxthos WAs are good but I heavily suggest taking the time to customise them yourself; if you know lua code you can make them much nicer but even just being willing to move icons into the left/right side groups instead of the main bars and then adding glow on them will help you a lot

[icy cedar]

on ? difficulty?

[runic bough]

kingpin

[icy cedar]

ill take a look, haven't done him since the first week

[runic bough]

yeah the easier one

kill him in a minute

repeat

restart it

counts as delve

i hate delves

so thats super quick

[gaunt phoenix]

red names cannot type here

[runic bough]

im still coming here out of habit

its funny

how each spec have different personalities in the channel

[vernal bone]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[icy cedar]

the underpin definitely does not drop repeat valorstones

i suspected as much because they changed that last season wit the last guy

[hybrid crown]

yeah people were doing zekvir to fill the vault quickly

[raven condor]

bro didn't you reroll? get outta here you 'sin Judas mf

Woxtoxic behavior

[neat mist]

[stuck timber]

Guys I played kir before but I changed it to ho and changed my gear accordingly, I knew kir was better but even though I did everything right I didn't do much damage. Now I am consistently top damage but people told me that kir is significantly better after the last fix. Is it true or nah.

[raven condor]

Afaik it's preference. kir CAN eek out ahead of ho, but ho is considered better from an ease of play pov

[glass mortar]

idk who told u kir is significantly better

both builds r very close

[raven condor]

The difference is negligible

[glass mortar]

kir and HO ST is within a small margin (its fatebound kir tho)

[stuck timber]

Thanks that is what I hoped to hear lol

[glass mortar]

in aoe kir is slightly better on high target counts slightly worse on low

both are basically the same tho

HO is just much much easier to play

[stuck timber]

Well I was playing tank but my guild told me we have more than enough tanks so I leveled an outlaw. Ive been playing wow since df and I have my highest rio rn, 2600 and I actually like playing outlaw lol

[raven condor]

Since you're a knower, HO trickster has more solid st than kir trickster, right?

[glass mortar]

yes

[raven condor]

tyty

[glass mortar]

the best kir ST build is fatebound iirc

kspree doesnt play as smoothly with kir builds

[raven condor]

yeyeye

[stuck timber]

Hardest part for me was understanding the priority and now I get it I know I did everything right when I played kir I even fish for buffs but my damage was so bad I had to try ho and ever since I play ho

[raven condor]

There's a couple weakauras that help immensely with kir

[stuck timber]

Yeah I still use them for rtb

[raven condor]

ye ye ye.

Shits fun but it's definitely a highlight of a spec that is too complex to realistically function without outside (wa) assistance

(not that it's impossible, I'm just a shitter)

[stuck timber]

Yo @glass mortar should I change my gear in raids since I switch to fatebound I didn't remember if I was using kir or ho tho in raid

Nah I think you are right

[glass mortar]

change gear to what, gears pretty similar between hero talents

[stuck timber]

Its doable but its impossible when spamming so many keys at the same time

[glass mortar]

u get ur KiR haste or u get ur HO haste

and thats about it

[stuck timber]

How much damage differs in st between fatebound kir and fatebound ho

[glass mortar]

like 3-4%

[raven condor]

Kir fatebound has a very high 5+ roll uptime, so the benefits outweigh trying to game good rolls as ho

[stuck timber]

Ah I get it

Thank you guys for your answers I think Ill stick to ho in raids too since our guild is not so organized in raids yet and bosses sometimes mess my uptime

[raven condor]

pump it up champ, gl

[prisma heron]

Which slot is best to not have tier?

[gaunt phoenix]

chest or shoulders are similar

[prisma heron]

Awesome Ty

[stark moss]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[stark moss]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[compact prawn]

That rtb tracker is goated

[glass mortar]

ToP pugs be like

[eager rose]

guys, siren circle is good yet?

other ring 665 sim better, but are good?

[covert kestrel]

sim is life

[bright crane]

A H ring can be better than Circe

I replaced mine in the 2nd or 3rd week with a 665 high vers/crit ring

[glass mortar]

bro

HO PC can be so troll on bosses

i did 5.3m dps to first boss priory

i did 1.3m to second boss

i rolled 6 1 buffs and a 2 buff

this group musta thought i was trolling ongod

[keen belfry]

5.3 how cuh

did oyu pull stuff into wtf

[delicate seal]

He said to boss

That's pure st

[keen belfry]

thats like a WR by like 500k

[glass mortar]

first boss of priory

is 2 target

and i rolled 4 5buffs in a row

it was only a 10 i had a 5 buff the whole fight

[keen belfry]

oh i guess affix cuz like cuh

5.3 goes hard

[glass mortar]

sure plus affix

its a high score for me

but i made up for it by being worthless on second boss

[vale plume]

is it worth to switch weapon for bosses in m+?

[glass mortar]

yes

[raven condor]

that fight is actual melee cancer if he decides to cast in the middle of his hammers

The hammer>cast>castigators>cast combo is downtime city

polar opposite of azeroc in ml, lmao.

[glass mortar]

yea it certainly did me no favors

but i just got turbo cringe rng to make up for the godtier rng before

[subtle light]

!log

[raven condor]

The good dice giveth and the good dice taketh away

it's such a shit feeling. Like your character is on adrenaline but both their arms are broken

[runic quartz]

yo, outlaw is still bugs?

[past falcon]

no

[keen belfry]

riddicit i got my 16s

[obtuse birch]

so, dumb question, are we still just spamming BTE while in stealth mode, or just BTE to get buff then dispact spam

[past falcon]

omg!!!! gz

[frail veldt]

Bte is the only finisher we use crackshot

[shell fossil]

659 mm hunter in a 12 flood was pumping lol

what is this game

[valid tartan]

mm owns in m+

there was a dude in mdi that played it in every key

[shell fossil]

2.97 overall lmao

anyway got resilient 12s so

anyway they were stooper good fwir in df so yeah

lol

[blissful idol]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[past falcon]

outlaw supremacy is back (!!??)

[unkempt cypress]

Nice meme run; ol has been forgotten

[sturdy grove]

I don't have raidbots atm so cant test my self atm soo..

Can someone tell me roughly, assuming the weapons are identical, how much more dps dagger OH is?

[peak dock]

Just don't play dagger oh

Play capo's molten knuckles or nightfall cudgel

Thank me later xd

[sturdy grove]

That was not my question sir

I just wante dot know if there was a referenced figure

Thank you for responding thougbh haha

[peak dock]

Why not simm it?

Just simm a crafted oh slow weapon vs a crafted oh dagger

[sturdy grove]

need to reset my raidbots login/dont have sub

ill just do it though haha

I didnt know if there was an easy off hand number or not in the faq Imissed

Just deciding if I want to make a dagger OH for pvp or not

[hollow temple]

!oh

[ornate heath]

A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.

[hollow temple]

its not really worth it

for pvp just use your 2 free weapon tokens on haste swords

[sturdy grove]

its like my 4th rogue I want to try something new

with all the conq might as well haha

ty

[frail veldt]

its even less in pvp

cuz you use wound poison and that doesnt do as much damage

but you could argue the value in pvp is more so that you have a higher chance to proc crippling when you reconnect or generate stacks of wound quickly

hard to quantify though

[sturdy grove]

Yea who knows

Going to try it because why not

new mog

[cunning kraken]

It most likely just doesn’t matter

[quick quail]

Hey, got mythic track keys, hc track priory for m+ and hotline hc track with avoidance for raid. Would you buy magnet for raid first or cards for m+?

[rotund zodiac]

Magnet is pretty good in both raid and m+

[somber jasper]

Hey I have a question. In the WoWhead guide under the BiS gear section it tells me I want like 17% haste for HO build. The stat priority page and this discord instead tell me 8-10% haste for HO? Which am I supposed to shoot for?

[vivid vessel]

!haste

[ornate heath]

Total stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because Adrenaline Rush lowers your GCD based on it, down to 0.8s at 25% haste.

The KIR build wants 18-20% haste from rating, because its only haste buff is from Alacrity.

The HO build meets this requirement with 8-10% haste from rating because of Take 'em by Surprise, but the new HO + Supercharger build continues to like Haste just because of energy, so you will have to sim. Your sim may settle for KIR-levels of haste (~18%) or slightly lower.

You need to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use.
You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

[vivid vessel]

Well if you read past the first line of the ho thing

It says

Well you see it right

Tbf it's not a new build anymore

[somber jasper]

I did read that, I was more asking the specifics of the conflicting information between that and the WoWhead guide

[vivid vessel]

Command should be updated

[cinder relic]

wowhead assumes ur playing supercharger

[vivid vessel]

Well it's the same then or wdym

[cinder relic]

Discord has remnants of when all builds didn't want 20% haste

Some wanted 10, others wanted 20

"erm its actually 17%"

It used to be different, now its uniform across all builds

[somber jasper]

So that metric and just trust sims, got it thank you. I got confused by conflicting information from another guide and just wanted clarification

[cinder relic]

Sim, aim for anywhere from 16-20

[lyric steeple]

when is a good time to use killing spree? I keep dying during it XD

or getting low

[shell fossil]

don't use it when adrenaline rush is about to fall off, otherwise you want to send it as much as possible

last floodgate i did i had 67 casts its just knowing when to send it

[blissful idol]

real question is, assa or outlaw

[quick quail]

Law over anything

[blissful idol]

i am farming 900 crests not spending anything

then gonna bust 35 i lvls

out of nowhere

!prekey

[shell fossil]

assa is great and fun main

but also hasn't gotten much attention this season

them removing kingsbane removed my smile lol

[blissful idol]

what do you mean removing kingsbane

the bleed build?

[shell fossil]

bleed build is cuter in m+

yeah

[blissful idol]

i d still play kb tbh

for prio

[shell fossil]

bleed build does comparable damage but yeah both work

[blissful idol]

popping dm alone feels weird tbh

due to muscle memory

[quick quail]

Just have appropriate weak auras and platers for tracking ability cooldowns of trash in M+ and you will be able to cast it in between their casts.

For mythic raid it's the only new learning curve for outlaw. Just pop it between raid mechanics and don't play it on Sprocket at all please

[shell fossil]

idk having 2 shiv charges is kinda neat even though i only get to play iron wire in pugs

[vivid vessel]

KS has a 100% stagger so any damage you would take during it will be spread out over 8s after it, you should be aware of this stagger, you are safe to ks inside stuffs, as long as its not insanely high damage, healers will heal it, at worse you can cloak it off
Be aware tho that its bugged a bit, and if you get hit by something on the very last frame of ks it wont stagger.
You are still not imune during ks so you can get stunned.
The key to playing around ks is to preposition before the ks to a spot that will be safe in 2/3s and be aware of stuffs that would have spawned where you started to cloak on landing.
Pressing low cp ks when unsafe is also way better than delaying ks.

[blissful idol]

i agree on that part

but i dont have that much time to play rn due to irl, so i am gonna farm my crests and decide what to play soon. There should be some tuning soon so fingers crossed

[shell fossil]

6/8 12s done with outlaw so i can play bleed guy this week

[blissful idol]

i made a new char some days ago to just fully send outlaw gear but now i am unsure

its only 650 rn but farming crests really easy

maybe i just send everything on outlaw gear

who cares anyways

[blissful idol]

!wa

gg

[marble sorrel]

why i see so many people play house of cards on outlaw? just the best trinket they have or is there something more to it?

[remote pecan]

mastery is ok in aoe for keys i guess

[stoic flicker]

Swapping from warrior to outlaw for my raid starting tomorrow. We have cleared up to oab, any boss specific tips people have for outlaw outside of the general ones on wowhead?

[vivid vessel]

the are copying the king

[marble sorrel]

the only valid answer

[vivid vessel]

also wdym so many people

isnt it legit only me

[shell fossil]

🚬

[vivid vessel]

Top 10 outlaws all use diff trinkets

tbf im prolly the only one with mythic hoc

[marble sorrel]

wox did on tr and like some outlaws i watched on io not top 10 thats true

[hot olive]

WOX copy zac in mdi too

[vivid vessel]

He just asked me what trinkets he should use

[magic shuttle]

Hoc might get outscaled slightly by other trinkets with the ilvl bump I feel

[vivid vessel]

I do believe hoc is good for kir in aoe

[vivid vessel]

why is that

[magic shuttle]

Afaik the mastery on use does not ignore diminishing returns

And you're gonna get more mastery from tier gear

[marble sorrel]

so people just copy zac

[mighty pivot]

use an int trinket for a few runs to see how many people will follow

[marble sorrel]

noted

[magic shuttle]

Hoc was already simming slightly lower than magnet/vexxie for me so I imagine the gap will grow

[vivid vessel]

eeeh

dont think thats relevant at all lol

i have a lot of mastery on my gear actually

cause i have the chest tier

[vivid vessel]

Usually people just follow the r1 guy or a r1 streamer

Wox hasn't pushed on live in a while

• he then started using hoc on tr aswell

when wox comes back, takes 4 k io with his shit trinkets

people will prolly copy him again

[magic shuttle]

rank 1 using remnant of darkness

[vivid vessel]

@glass mortar yeee

how much are the lil gilded crafted thingies?

20?

30

right

so i need 510 gilded on reset

ok buddy

Only 3300 valorstones tho I'm surprised

I thought valor was going to be a limitation day one

But actually it won't

I just need 500 gilded

[leaden folio]

ring/neck upgrade can wait

[vivid vessel]

my neck is 658

💀

IT CANNOT WAIT

it prolly will wait

[fluid meadow]

i have 2750 valor cause of items, gg never ending gilded farm

[vivid vessel]

im upgradign weapon/main slots first anyway

chest/head/legs/trinkets

7% btw

[stiff hawk]

Its because of the crafts

[light kernel]

if i upgrade 2hander on dk will i be able to upgrade both weapons ?

[vivid vessel]

who knows

[light kernel]

would be pog

[vivid vessel]

bro i fucked up so hard crafting a one hander on my monk

im stupid !

[stiff hawk]

I have made a sheet

[fluid meadow]

remember zerocool crafted intellect wep last season maybe?xdd

[stiff hawk]

for upgrading on alts

to save crests for the main

I save 90 Crests

[vivid vessel]

Ye my monk is upgrading helm

And dh belt

I'm saving 20?

Huge

[stiff hawk]

And i also save Valorstones

[stiff hawk]

Yes

[modern quarry]

how do you sim like that? is it an advanced sim?

[stiff hawk]

Just go Topgear i think, or PTR sim bot?

[modern quarry]

must be ptr then. thanks

[fluid meadow]

is this reportable thing? i mean there are some who just note 5-7k/try or smthing like that and they hard int keys for gold too

[vivid vessel]

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1SBd99GKjNTPSUXqjsv6Ao mimiron

bro

my vault tomorrow

will have priory chest

i can smell it

[modern quarry]

thank you!

[vivid vessel]

It's my only upgrade so I can see it already

!

[blissful idol]

at least capos isnt capped

[vivid vessel]

it is

[blissful idol]

cause we attack 8 targets it attacks also only 8 ?

[tranquil hemlock]

idk if it is bannable but i've been reporting it

shit's cringe af

[haughty wigeon]

Idk if it’s reportable

Cause timewalking raids do the same thing

[leaden folio]

you can report everything. you dont have 15 account so your report wont be listen

[fluid meadow]

no, tw raid is not needed to tip, but some team farm gold with inting these keys

[white mantle]

Visions are on the 20th yea?

[stiff hawk]

yes

[white mantle]

👍

[shell fossil]

hoping for two myth tier pieces

money loot

[red zinc]

Its only reportable if they ask for a specific amount of gold

if they just say “any tip” or whatever its not reaaally against the rules

But if enough ppl report them they still get auto banned

[regal jolt]

why would this be reportable?

oh because you cant advertise in the finder?

[hollow temple]

ye

[north thunder]

I just started gearing my alt rogue and was lucky enough to snag several trinkets... the sims keep telling me to use Junkmaestro's Mega Magnet... How does one use this trinket properally? I mean I got a Ravenous Honey Buzzer and a Pacemaker just in case this tinket is sim bait...

[remote pike]

Hey boys, whats your favorite platers? Do you have some really good ones with some nice hidden tech that you'd like to share

[remote pike]

use on aoe when u can, aim at the target with ur game camera, and be sure to have at least a tiny bit distance

and be sure to aim properly so it doesnt drive past xD

oh wait

magnet

Magnet is easy, whenever there's a damage amplification phase, you pop it

whenever there's a large group and you have your cooldowns ready, you pop it as well i would say

[north thunder]

I didn't know if you waited for it to fully charge then use it... or if you just used it every 20 secs on CD

[remote pike]

and whenever it has 30 stacks u pop

[north thunder]

I looked at lorgs and it looked like people were using it on cd