outlaw

[craggy barn]

it would be ez

pepw

[vivid vessel]

no?

[craggy barn]

yea no its dumb

[vivid vessel]

it doesnt even spawn on people

its jusrt rng

it spawns on tank only

[haughty wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xHyG6LXO4UE

[vivid vessel]

oooh

I JUST UNDERSTOOD SOMETHING

[runic bough]

WHAT

[craggy barn]

classic kyvessa

[runic bough]

[vivid vessel]

nvm

i didnt

[runic bough]

Oh ok

[craggy barn]

what did u think tho

[novel socket]

[craggy barn]

zac how is my french
merde, putain

[vivid vessel]

i tought these aoes were coded so that you cant have 2 spawning on the same spots

thats why its so brutal

they fill the space

but no

i can see some double spawning

im trying to find a way to press ks during these

cause its legit the only way to keep dpsing

but idk

[craggy barn]

idk if theres a safe way to do it

[vivid vessel]

as you can see i died

[craggy barn]

aside from cloak

[runic bough]

[vivid vessel]

i also died cause i lost the spot where i started

if i could see it

but i got disorientated

by

[glass mortar]

u couldnt even press wox kspree during that mechanic zac

idk

[vivid vessel]

the fact

[glass mortar]

this ability needs to go

[vivid vessel]

my camera

[glass mortar]

the wox fix is cute

[vivid vessel]

is jumping around

[glass mortar]

the ability needs to be gone tho

not even remotely resemble what it is

im tired

[vivid vessel]

you could ??

wdym

[glass mortar]

you could safely self root for 3s during that mechanic?

i guess u could send a 1 or 2 cp one

[vivid vessel]

removing the tp component let you move with it

you know you can move inside ks

its just a tp

every tick

[glass mortar]

yes

but u dont get anywhere

can u actually get anywhere with wox version

[vivid vessel]

you dont because you teleport

[glass mortar]

u teleport so much faster then u can run

[vivid vessel]

yes you can

because there is no tleeports ??

https://youtu.be/BszWY_oxTwo?si=y1BM0Q1eHBKTJoq8&t=18

[late swallow]

Wox fix is good

[vivid vessel]

bro the video is 30s

[glass mortar]

what happens if you do it from out of melee

[vivid vessel]

and you didnt even watch it

[glass mortar]

like from BF range

i did watch it

[vivid vessel]

the entire

crasy

[glass mortar]

i didnt notice it wasnt teleports

[vivid vessel]

he moves around the dummyu

wdym

[glass mortar]

i assumed it was just treating the teleport like a charge to the boss each attack tick

straight line

[vivid vessel]

no

it just removes the teleport

so it does the animation of ambush or wahtever

and thats it

ks doesnt do anything more than that anyway

[glass mortar]

yea u culd probably use that then

[vivid vessel]

its just a teleport every tick

[glass mortar]

well except for if u have to leave melee

what happens then does it just cancel

[vivid vessel]

it prolly either works

or doesnt do damage

cause you arent in melee range

tho idc about that

[craggy barn]

zac i think top is a ho dungeon

[vivid vessel]

this is miles better

[vivid vessel]

who knows

[craggy barn]

xav pvp, ambush procs can kill in pvp

some classes

[vivid vessel]

is that all

[craggy barn]

thats it

pepw

[vivid vessel]

ok

[runic bough]

Zac

[glass mortar]

well surely kir is the outlaw meta now a day tho no?

did u not see

the SS buffs

when they nerfed RB

[craggy barn]

idk but u can kill some classes in the pvp

so u dont get stuck there

[glass mortar]

[craggy barn]

waiting too long

[sterile summit]

Why most of the tanks are toxic holy crap

[runic bough]

You should start a triple outlaw event for EU zac

[glass mortar]

yea zac start a triple outlaw 10s weekly event

then show up on ur monk

finally, easy crests

[fallen knot]

yes i come

with outlaw

do event zac

[vivid vessel]

fr

[craggy barn]

guys i start sprocket prog tomorrow

[runic bough]

Gl gl zomb

[glass mortar]

i hope uve been keeping ur kir up to date

and fatebound

[craggy barn]

yea

[fallen knot]

gl sir

[craggy barn]

i play both kir and ho

just switch when im bored

[fallen knot]

please play ho

[craggy barn]

why

[fallen knot]

and send a ks

[craggy barn]

oh

[fallen knot]

into the other group

[craggy barn]

ill do it once

[glass mortar]

hes talking fatebound HO

our worst build

[fallen knot]

no

nono

trickster

[glass mortar]

why troll prog

u already know u cannot cast this spell on this boss

wasting everyones time

i promise u they wont think as funny as we do

[fallen knot]

1 pull for the lols

[craggy barn]

we arent a serious guild

lol

[fallen knot]

like

do 1 pull

and when it's clearly a wipe

send ks

and kill them all

[runic bough]

[fallen knot]

i mean

our pres evoker

literally dream breath'd into the other group on 1 pull

he did missclick

but still

it was fucking funny

[runic bough]

Ks is actually a great wipe tool on some mechanics that do raid dmg

When wipe is called

[craggy barn]

first pull
"oh shit forgot to swap specs, time to press the insta reset button"

[runic bough]

[craggy barn]

ill just do a quick kir fb practice in hero sprocket today

if we do sprocket

again for some reason

[runic bough]

Its like a bicycle

Comes right back

[craggy barn]

yea ive played fb a few times in raid early on so ill be fine

[glass mortar]

i had to change my roll bind when i progged this boss again in alt raid on my WW

[jade abyss]

I'm tired of that Mechagon Cloak reminding me all the time that I'm the thrashmaster. I can't make the othter titles stick. My ego is hurt

[glass mortar]

because i kept accidently hitting it

not a good button to accidently hit on this fight

[runic bough]

I'm glad I didn't join my guild when they were progging the easy fights

I'd have got so tilted

I'm getting tilted wiping on stix

[teal wing]

i host it every week but not a single outlaw applies

[runic bough]

I'm doing it now too

On tuesdays

[teal wing]

yea me 2

[jade abyss]

In EU? What's the requirements and objective?

[craggy barn]

bro

im seeing so many more aug now

in 15s

saw 0 before that

now i see 2 signing up for keys

[teal wing]

yes eu objective is to push the key

[jade abyss]

for how long?

I guess I could try one day

[teal wing]

idk i just waited 30 min in queue evey time and noone applied

like 14s 15s

[runic bough]

Well

I also say open to carry new outlaws

First event me and zomb a carry outlaw

But he did really well so he wasn't really a carry

I also advertised in here

[teal wing]

only got to play a brew 12 in week 2 i think but the other outlaws were kinda undergeeared

[runic bough]

Lower the Key to something you can carry

[teal wing]

whats the point

[runic bough]

Fun foe the new outlaws

Don't be mean

[latent oak]

if u post in discord if its up, i'd apply

[runic bough]

If the outlaws were same ilvl sure try a harder key

[jade abyss]

Sure I could join that I guess, it's on tuesday any time?

[latent belfry]

only tuesdays?

[teal wing]

like 8 pm

[runic bough]

Yes for now

[teal wing]

if you want we can also start something spontaneous

[runic bough]

Yeah for sure

[latent belfry]

im bored and needa fill vault

[storm drum]

i gues the sim i wonder if my heroic capo's is worse or better than nightfall cudgel

[gaunt phoenix]

on trash cudgel is better

[glass mortar]

in aoe worse, in ST better

[gaunt phoenix]

on bosses capo is better

[glass mortar]

by aoe i mean dungeon style ye

u can weapon swap between

[jade abyss]

in aoe mythic capo is worse than nightfall

[gaunt phoenix]

so you do a little swip swappy

[glass mortar]

dont think any weapon in the game beats swapping cudgel on for aoe in dungeons

even myth cappo

[storm drum]

wait we are aloud to wep swap?

[glass mortar]

yes

[gaunt phoenix]

It's in the pin

macro to weapon swap

it takes a gcd so do it outside of combat usually

[storm drum]

oh thanks

[gaunt phoenix]

but you can still do it in combat if you need to

[storm drum]

just before boss swap the capo's or my offhand crafted dagger lol

[gaunt phoenix]

during killing spree even

[glass mortar]

if u gotta do it in combat during kspree is probably the optimal time to do it tbh

[gaunt phoenix]

swap to capo

[storm drum]

capo's yeah hel yeah for sure

thanks for the info

[jade abyss]

true we actually have free "gcd"s to do if they aren't spells conflicting with KS

[craggy barn]

the problem is u also need weighttstones

i have to stone up 3 weapons in keys now lol

[storm drum]

oh snap lol

so question

is there any reason to craft an offhand dagger for outlaw?

I have crafted sword if crowd favorite drops it goes to me

[vivid vessel]

if it sims better than other slots and you have nothing to do i guess

[storm drum]

i have heroic capo's which is usually 3% of my dmg

[gaunt phoenix]

heroic capo is better than crafted

[storm drum]

and this cudgel

fuckin jebaited

Raid leader was upset about my add dmg on fuckin rik progresssion...asked me to swap to outlaw

[glass mortar]

thats

[storm drum]

which i prefer...the problem is the ranged dont target swap and get mcced

[glass mortar]

based rl

[gaunt phoenix]

based

[storm drum]

like 5-6 ppl just hollerin im mcced in raid im over here like yeah cuz you stand in shit shutup

[glass mortar]

based until u press kspree during bubbles and get mc'd 3 times a pull

those thingies r so buggy man

[storm drum]

swapped to outlaw from assa lmao

[jade abyss]

Any outlaw with more ilvl overall?

[glass mortar]

ive gotten mc'd from one double ticking me insta before

someone linked a 675 ilvl sim the other day

[storm drum]

yeah i mean the beam wipes your stacks i dont see the issue lmao

[gaunt phoenix]

they mean bag ilvl

[jade abyss]

yeah I do mean bag ilvl

[craggy barn]

my ilvl is gimped by pvp items and earlier bad crest usage

[vivid vessel]

why arent you equipping the 677

is it fake !

[jade abyss]

well one sec

[vivid vessel]

sounds fake !

bad gear to pad !

[jade abyss]

I have to put jastor diamond that I'm not using and the offhand that isn't the nightfall event

[craggy barn]

im tempted to send my 45 crests rn but theres so much to upgrade next week

[jade abyss]

I know you're kidding

but I don't have a better ring than the 658 delve one

[craggy barn]

dumpster delvers?

[vivid vessel]

FAKE

[jade abyss]

yeah I guess I could get better with pvp ?

[craggy barn]

shrug depends on ur stats

like my setup rn

[jade abyss]

that vaults gave me jaster and HoC, I got to play some assa just for the game to be happy

[craggy barn]

wants me to use dumpster instead of pvp

[vivid vessel]

crazy ilvl tho

[vivid vessel]

im 676 rn

[craggy barn]

i have a myth belt in bag

[jade abyss]

yeah I'm ahead of you because you started sub and our guilds aren't that far apart. Or I just got lucky you'd say

[craggy barn]

the contender cord

[vivid vessel]

wait that fist isnt unique equiped ?

[craggy barn]

no

[peak dock]

Small question, considering we use cudgel for trash on m+... Is it better to use authority of the depths in out "bosses offhand"?

[fathom bramble]

only weapons with unique effects are unique equipped these days

[vivid vessel]

I mean not really, starting sub didnt really cost me ilvl

[craggy barn]

why would it be unique, its not even a cantrip

[jade abyss]

my dinar is going on Bandit ring for sure

[vivid vessel]

good luck with that buddy

[jade abyss]

oh you're kidding me

we can't choose the stats?

[craggy barn]

its not on the list

to buy

at all

[vivid vessel]

[jade abyss]

oh right omg

fck me

[glass mortar]

they r cowards for that for sure

[fathom bramble]

isn't it only special items and trinkets?

[jade abyss]

shit damn

The damn ring

[fathom bramble]

even though a correct stat bandit ring is rarer than any of the special items

[vivid vessel]

btw, i killed mug 5 times

not a single capo dropped

[craggy barn]

no other jewelery is on there but jastors

[vivid vessel]

not a single one

[fathom bramble]

rip

we are at 3 so far

from our 3 kills

[teal wing]

@jade abyss join

[vivid vessel]

not a single raider got it from vault either

at least dinars are next week

next week right

[runic bough]

Zac are your frens with wox

[vivid vessel]

or is it later

i dont remmeber

[tender breach]

for the 1st boss in priory the nifgtfall mace or the fire fist from raid?

[vivid vessel]

ye best fren

[vivid vessel]

its not about aoe vs st

[craggy barn]

zac steals all his ideas from wox, real

[vivid vessel]

its about boss vs trash

[runic bough]

Can u ask if he will join triple outlaw with nessa and me?

[vivid vessel]

the weapon cant re proc against bosses cause its perma combat

[vivid vessel]

no

[tender breach]

ahh

[vivid vessel]

nessa is more frenner with wox also

she can ask him

[fallen knot]

who tagged me

[tender breach]

@vivid vessel thnxz

[vivid vessel]

wasnt me

[runic bough]

Ok ok

[fallen knot]

i am doing hc raid on outlaw

[vivid vessel]

actually

let me tag you

[fallen knot]

it just occured me

[vivid vessel]

wanna do a 10 after

[fallen knot]

to me

[jade abyss]

I'll do one or 2 max

[fallen knot]

ye

come do hc raid

[vivid vessel]

just ping me when

[fallen knot]

with monk

or rogue

[vivid vessel]

uh

i wont get in or ?

[fallen knot]

and trade me everything

[vivid vessel]

i doubt i get accepted to a hc raid

[fallen knot]

i got accepted and i'm 650

[vivid vessel]

im lower than that tho

[fallen knot]

if your main shows

they accept

[craggy barn]

are u gearing another rogue zac

[fallen knot]

100%

[vivid vessel]

nvm im ok actualy

[craggy barn]

oh monk

[vivid vessel]

no ..

[runic bough]

Zac is rolling meta guys

[vivid vessel]

i was told i couldnt play 3 rogues

[fallen knot]

we on stix

[vivid vessel]

..

[vivid vessel]

invite !

[glass mortar]

zac gunna be adicted to brm fr

make his own routes

brm is a banger tho i wish it was stronger

[fathom bramble]

Why not

[vivid vessel]

i played some brew in sl

i do like brew a lot

lot of buttons

[fathom bramble]

If they aren’t meant to ever be used in main raid it shouldn’t matter

[vivid vessel]

the second main is meant to be

[fathom bramble]

Oh

[vivid vessel]

we do 3 splits

the second is supposed to be a "playable" alt

in case

your spec suck cock

for example this tier we had 0 ww

and officers werent happy about that

[swift cairn]

Who's that

[vivid vessel]

boxman silvermoon

[swift cairn]

thx bro

XD

[vivid vessel]

np

[gaunt phoenix]

#outlaw message

[velvet dagger]

no need for that much ilvl if i beat you in dps

[swift cairn]

didnt see that haha

[vivid vessel]

bro they wont accept me

i even know the raid leader

he is a french guy

was in my guild for like

2 weeks

[fallen knot]

whiespering

rl

[vivid vessel]

isnt anymore cause he was bad

[fallen knot]

we were fighting

and wiped

[vivid vessel]

dont tell him that tho

[vivid vessel]

💀

wiping

💀

[gaunt phoenix]

any wipers

[vivid vessel]

@glass mortar

btw

only the big delves gives gilded right

[glass mortar]

11s ye

[vivid vessel]

no

i mean

[glass mortar]

or i think u get some from others also?

[gaunt phoenix]

11 bountiful

[vivid vessel]

only the bountiful

[glass mortar]

oh

the glowy ones yea

4 per day

altho i think u only get gilded 3X per week rn so

they will uncap i trust

[vivid vessel]

what really ?

thats crazy

[glass mortar]

theres a cap on it yea

its sad

i mean tbf

they gotta keep something to make people raid and m+

otherwise we'd all just delve all day

💅

[gaunt phoenix]

21 from 3 delves and +10 from map

so 31 cap

[vivid vessel]

@fallen knot i think you kinda lied im not getting into any hc group

i was right

[fallen knot]

fml

i got cucked

with a ball

and fucking stayed afk for 2 minutes

the pull before i was going omega

[vivid vessel]

get me in bro

[craggy barn]

oh no aug is becoming meta

its over zac

[serene cosmos]

Hey Zac

What's your thoughts about outlaw rn?

For M+/raid content

[fallen knot]

there you go

[vivid vessel]

m+ its not meta but its meta

so like

[serene cosmos]

No, more like gameplay feeling

[vivid vessel]

oh

best iteration of outlaw ever

if it wasnt for ks

[serene cosmos]

Really? I stop play outlaw last tier cuz I was a bit upset of the current state

[hardy relic]

Hi all, dumb question here, in raid (with either the fatebound or trickster raid build), do we ever press blade flurry in pure ST or not worth? I noticed the default build doesnt talent into precise cuts

[rotund pulsar]

that's a big if lol

[vivid vessel]

state of what

daamge ?

it has been mostly fixed now

[serene cosmos]

No, gameplay

[vivid vessel]

why

ks ?

[craggy barn]

never bf in pure st, precise cuts doesnt do anything if theres only 1 target as well so that wouldnt matter

[serene cosmos]

KS for first part

And, idk, I don't have the same vibes than before

The haste taxe I think

[vivid vessel]

i mean haste tax is annoying but its just gear in the end

[hardy relic]

i thought so. Dont suppose theres a scenario where talenting into precise cuts is worth it?

[vivid vessel]

couldnt care less

[tranquil hemlock]

once you have haste

it's just

outlaw

press keys, get dopamine

[hardy relic]

well you edited your message before I sent mine xD forget it

[tranquil hemlock]

press ks die

repeat

[serene cosmos]

Yes, but early TWW, it put me out of specs

I think KS is the main issue

[vivid vessel]

i mean the only issue to me rn is ks

[serene cosmos]

And the dps gap between kir and OH

[vivid vessel]

like big issue i mena

the spec has plenty of little annoying things but

[frail veldt]

Yeah they made a lot of bad choices for outlaw but fortunately a lot of good ones

[vivid vessel]

its just ks honestly

[frail veldt]

Double vanish is banger

Trickster design is mostly banger

[gaunt phoenix]

not really in raid

[fallen knot]

joined my raid

to just get splattered

washed

[vivid vessel]

i had to get hit by 2 cars to die

crazy or

[fallen knot]

i had to

aswell

fucking

combat

[runic bough]

Zac noob

[serene cosmos]

I think the loss of acro, the ks, the vanish gameplay...

[vivid vessel]

well

vanish gameplay is good

no acro is one of the worse decision they ever made

makes the spec cringe af to play in m+

but it still is fun so idk

[gaunt phoenix]

vanish charges the goat change

[serene cosmos]

Maybe I should give a try again?

[frail veldt]

Fr fr

The most positive thing they've added for sure

[shy meteor]

acro?

[frail veldt]

No downside imo

[storm drum]

questions are we weapon swapping on adds in raid?

[frail veldt]

Does it matter? Lol

I afk ads

[storm drum]

on bosses?

[frail veldt]

Oh you mean during boss

[storm drum]

yeah so rik and styx

[frail veldt]

Not sure tbh

It costs a global

So

[serene cosmos]

What you playing rn Zac? Sin for pushing / raid and outlaw for fun?

[vivid vessel]

outlaw

[serene cosmos]

Or you stick to outlaw

[gaunt phoenix]

don't bother in raids

[serene cosmos]

I think I'm gonna go outlaw

Just for the spamming feeling

But KS...

Wtf blizzard KS

[vivid vessel]

im playuing outlaw only after prog

in m+ and relcears

[serene cosmos]

Ofc

Fun before rest

[fallen knot]

i got kicked

[frail veldt]

From what

[serene cosmos]

His raid

[frail veldt]

Oof

[fallen knot]

yea

no lock deathskip

i couldnt reach

they kickde

at least i got zac in from sprocket

i hope they wipe endlessly

at bandit

[runic bough]

Such disrespekt

[polar kelp]

Man I was with an ass rogue in a 15 floodgate and he was pumping....but he was made of paper and kept dying so we had same overall at the end lol, I didn't know ass could pump that hard in aoe

Is sub that good too?

[serene cosmos]

Not really

Sub AoE sucks hard

Sin got a fcking big AoE

But he needs to press defensives

[runic bough]

I seen Shindig do 20mil on sin

And all he did was rupture

On all the mobs

Or something ez like that

[serene cosmos]

Kekw

[craggy barn]

bleed build is REALLY good aoe

[serene cosmos]

Not rupture doing the damages

[pearl trout]

you could say he just ruptured all over those guys

[runic bough]

Pun intended

I saw zeross play sin one time

[vivid vessel]

..

[runic bough]

U got him kicked Zac and he got you invited

[serene cosmos]

Zeross play a special cooked funnel build

[frank finch]

anything cool revealed at the wow pax east panel so far?

[fallen knot]

spoiler

[vivid vessel]

whats that

[fallen knot]

they disbanded

we now are doing cinder

[daring oxide]

One button assist

[frank finch]

[abstract tangle]

While at dummies I tried my best and my numbers are the following:

Max damage while playing quite correctly: 1.2 M
Min while AR was down/on cooldown and bad rng: 1.01 M

Now I know there is something that penalize me while playing in a real environment

[vivid vessel]

oh there is an event rn ?

where do i wathc

[frank finch]

yea pax east wow panel

twitch

[vivid vessel]

that doesnt seem official

[frank finch]

https://www.twitch.tv/pax

[vivid vessel]

whats that

[runic bough]

Umm

[vivid vessel]

thats not a blizzard thing or ?

[frank finch]

it is

[vivid vessel]

what is pax

[frank finch]

it was annoucned on wowhead

its a convention

[fallen knot]

it's peace in latin

[vapid blaze]

no shot that aug is back xD

[vivid vessel]

ye...

half a season of peace

but oh well

blizzard like when their game is shit for everyone

[vapid blaze]

but why couldnt they just
idk not buff it the last round
and it stays out of meta

[craggy barn]

they nerfed dk so hard and kept buffing aug self damage

that aug replaced dk

pepw

[vapid blaze]

down the drain outlaw goes too once you have aug xD

[serene cosmos]

When you marry someone but you not really marry this person

[fallen knot]

pretty sure dk is basically the same

you just play frost on some dungeons

[leaden folio]

baby dont hurt me, no more

[vapid blaze]

and cause arcane
aug prob has turbo funnel damage

[pearl trout]

DK feels the same if you're not getting good procs

[craggy barn]

once again another wizard meta

rip melee

the turboboost crafts for upgrading wont cost more crests right

[pearl trout]

30 crests

[glass mortar]

It's 6 ilvl it's gunna be 30 crests ye

On ptr iirc

[craggy barn]

for crafted items?

[pearl trout]

yup the item to recraft them into higher ilvl costs 30 crest

[craggy barn]

wtf

gdi

so many crests to farm

[frank finch]

crests become uncapped tho

[craggy barn]

yea

its a lot to farm

[frank finch]

spam 12's

[craggy barn]

i guess i just send my current crests then

[magic shuttle]

gonna havew to farm valorstones as well

[frank finch]

and w/e u have upgrade them up

[gaunt phoenix]

making me play the game

[craggy barn]

valor is ez

[magic shuttle]

ye, just stops you from instantly upgrading everything

[craggy barn]

bro im trying to play clair obscur

[pearl trout]

also valor becomes warbound

[craggy barn]

i cant play more coe33 if i have to play wow more

im already unable to play bc no 15 invites

[fallen knot]

does the 2k cap remain?

even if they become warbound?

[pearl trout]

that I'm not sure

[red zinc]

Unsure but it probably will

They have never uncapped that before

[frank finch]

log on asap on patch day , spam all the gilded upgrade everything and go hunt all r1 parses before its to late and zac logs on

[red zinc]

Next week is better for that

3% aura buff and corruption enchant

[frank finch]

yea patch day

next week

[red zinc]

Zac is slow asf with world content

week after next week

Sorry

[frank finch]

ooooooo

for r1's zac will play world content

he did the event for the cridgel for 1 % overall

11.1.7 says system updates

surely that means class changes

[slate plaza]

what do you guys use mid pull to see if you have a healthstone/potion up?

[red zinc]

Nah

Its over

Commence dooming

[leaden folio]

woxtoxic time a 19 as outlaw pog

[craggy barn]

some weak aura that tracks if theyre on cd or not, or i just look at my bars

[pearl trout]

the weak aura called eyes (?)

[red zinc]

Im orange parsing hc without warrior buff

im so barack

[frank finch]

legion remix imcoming

[slate plaza]

smth like this?

[craggy barn]

yea

or u just press it and pray its avail

pepw

[slate plaza]

lol

what about defensievs? same deal?

look at bar?

[craggy barn]

bar / weak aura above my unitframe

[slate plaza]

im considering making a weak aura pack that attaches to below my name that shows defensives and util/healthstones

[craggy barn]

yes do that

i track it above my unitframe on rogue

on bdk i just have it above my personal wa pack

[slate plaza]

i would need to custom amke for each class tho is the shitty party

[slate plaza]

how hard is it to make and make it anchor?

[craggy barn]

ez

[slate plaza]

like per class

rlly?

i wanna ditch aotricity ui and do my own shit

[craggy barn]

well u have to go into every classes defensives

but its easy to put them all in a single group

that anchors to a unit frame

[slate plaza]

do i have to worry abt performance if i fuck something up or nahg

[craggy barn]

not for something as simple as cd tracking

load conditions and what not

[slate plaza]

what about a rotation tracker liek afenar does that eat up fps or nah

im trying to save on perofrmance whereveri can

[craggy barn]

every combat addon u add, and weak aura u make will eat performance some way or another

basic cd tracking is not a huge performance loss

rotation tracker i think is pretty lightweight too

[zealous plinth]

how do you guys handle KS on mage boss in ToP?^^

[errant arrow]

Just go details and blast raw

[gaunt phoenix]

Pray

[zealous plinth]

y i came out 3 times in orbs after ks xD

3 death = key rip

[gaunt phoenix]

you can low cp KS

though you can still do the phantom teleport into an orb

[zealous plinth]

y i think that can happen still

i mean if ks dashes into orb you live on 17s at least

the dot is okish with good healer

[random stirrup]

not if you get the last tick bug

[errant arrow]

Cant you cloak of shadows to prevent orb damage? (Once during the encounter at least)

[zealous plinth]

y but not if you teleport in orbs back to back xD

[zealous plinth]

true

[errant arrow]

Well we are the gamble spec :3

So that checks out

[shut lichen]

to the surprise of no one

[white mantle]

Fallen Avatar time

[errant arrow]

Truly the surprise of no one, it was on there roadmap

[haughty wigeon]

fake?

[shut lichen]

what?

[haughty wigeon]

it looks like a fake advertisement

[shut lichen]

they legit announced it at Pax East just now

so no

[haughty wigeon]

oh

nvm then

pog

[white mantle]

your fake

[haughty wigeon]

i hope we get artifact mage tower appearances again

[shut lichen]

even has M+

[haughty wigeon]

bs

how are they gonna do that

its gonna devolve to

[shut lichen]

just as standard with the scaling of remix

[fallen knot]

i'm washed gonna delete gg

[haughty wigeon]

"frog farm and then clear 1019819881281+"

[vivid vessel]

is thje pax thing over

[frank finch]

yea

the only cool thing u might care about

[jade abyss]

Why cant I swap my weapon in a key?

[frank finch]

remix m+

[gaunt phoenix]

Gally weapon cannot be swapped

they flagged this weapon specifically

[errant arrow]

Remix m+ is actually going to be hype

[gaunt phoenix]

No you can swap weapons

in combat even

[vivid vessel]

wdym

[fallen knot]

yes

[gaunt phoenix]

just not this one

[fallen knot]

but not the weird ones

[red zinc]

legion remix will have m+

[vivid vessel]

ok

idc ?

[frank finch]

something about how in remix you get alot of crazy power and they wont limit it in m+ to se how far yo ucan go or something

[vivid vessel]

playing legion remix

[red zinc]

playing another whole patch of KS

[vivid vessel]

having to level up and gear up another character 💀

[frank finch]

its different tho tbf

[vivid vessel]

i should watch the warcraft movie again

[slate forge]

It’s remix?

[frank finch]

like unique gear and systems

in remix

its not the normal game

[jade abyss]

ah lol alright... so weird

[shut lichen]

where does your mind go to sometimes?

[pearl trout]

Yup Remix you can literally get to the point of soloing raids lol

[vivid vessel]

you know where to

[pearl trout]

Is fun

[jade abyss]

you can swap weapons in m+

[vivid vessel]

guys i have a weird question

im not great with faces and its always an issue for me when watching movies

so

are those the same person

[haughty wigeon]

remix gearing isnt

like normal gearing

[frank finch]

no

[haughty wigeon]

but i can assure you

there will be a new frog far mand people will over abuse it to much and force blizzard to roll back stats/upgrades

[fallen knot]

they might be actually

[haughty wigeon]

i know the first place im gonna check :)

cause of hidden artifact appearance memes

[fallen knot]

no

i was responding to zac

but yea

[vivid vessel]

i think they are supposed to be the same person

from the movie context

im just too dumb

I legit cannot say

for certain

can you guys see a person once

and then

tell

if you see the person another time

thats its the same person

[fallen knot]

depends on the person

[desert tendon]

is that your face reveal?

[vivid vessel]

ye

[jade abyss]

Do you know why they specifically flag gally weapon? I Guess to avoid putting stacks to 25 and change weapon? They could have just made the stacks disappear though
I guess I'll just use an offhand dagger but not my best fit

[gaunt phoenix]

probably related to the effect ye idk

[haughty wigeon]

specific weapons are just flag due to their cantrip effect

im sure stuff like this happened in earlier expansion

but back in shadowlands the final boss dropped a really good hammer and every spec that could use 2handed maces would abuse it and weapon swap away from it with a fish or something

and then back to their normal weapon

[random stirrup]

cantrip weapons are usually bugged

well not bugged

blocked

capo is probably an exception

more than gallywix weapon

in df s3 you couldn't weapon swap thorncaller

[frail veldt]

I think they are

The make up and hair are throwing me off

But facial features look the same

[frail veldt]

Usually

I always do that and it annoys my gf when we're watching a movie and I'm like "oh thats the guy from X show" or something

[shut lichen]

defo not the same

[median owl]

is Nightfall Curseblade's Cudgelsuspected to be bis still? the overall of it was super low in my latest dungeon. got it hotfixed?

[main tree]

is there an easy way to swap out the rtb for luxthos with the one that has the blue/yellow/red borders for KIR? im assuming no or it would have been done

[vivid vessel]

@glass mortar

i depleted

a delve

i died so much i didnt get my gilded

[frank finch]

noob

[stuck patrol]

When I tried to do the vanish stuff with the funny shadow mace offhand in delves, it didn't work. I'm assuming that's because brann stays in combat with them or some shit?

[polar kelp]

What's "super low" and what dungeon

[haughty wigeon]

how

[median owl]

2.5-2.3% overall and i tested it in both floodgate and ToP

[polar kelp]

If you are swapping out for bosses, that's exactly where it should be. Why do you think that's low?

[median owl]

cuz 2 days ago it was doing 4.5-4%

in same dungeons

[polar kelp]

Mmmm I don't think so, I've been using it since it came out and never had it that high. I also wouldn't really use it in top except for 2 pulls

[median owl]

I mean no actual reason to lie xD im just saying what I see in my recount 😛

[polar kelp]

Weird, yea ionno mines been a consistent 2.5

[glass mortar]

???????????????????????????

[glass mortar]

ok but how was ur overall dps?

how much damage this thing does is gunna depend on how much damage udo

its a flat damage effect

if u did like 1m more dps in the key 1 time, the weapon will be significantly lower

[median owl]

yeh I guess that's the actual point, i was way less geared a week ago and now getting a bit more gear so probs its just that

[glass mortar]

yea

ur personal dps will scale much quicker then the procs damage

its basically flat (it scales a bit with secondaries obv but not nearly as much as u do with gear)

[median owl]

yeye makes sense. thanks for the answers mate

[runic bough]

Hmm

[storm drum]

mine just popped 5% in cinderbrew

[glass mortar]

the larger u pull the higher it can go because technically it scales with infinity targets as long as u make sure to wiggle around to get bf to cleave everything between vanishes

its usually between 2-3% of my dungeon overall but on a pull to pull...

we did all the civilians into a rock guy in a rookery 12 and i just went mega cheese vanishing before kspree with the weapon while the civilians were alive

it was 10% of my dps on that pull

[storm drum]

haha yeah it was the first pull before the boss

its cool

fun to wep swap too makes me feel so cool like the old days

[polar kelp]

The worst is the one time you forget to swap back before boss and midway through boss you realize

Feels bad

[storm drum]

i mean

i feel like i can almost hit 2 mil on boss dmg

most of the time its like 1.5mil tho

is that average?

[polar kelp]

Too many factors

[glass mortar]

around 2m sounds right

especially if ur playing PC

[polar kelp]

But depends on build too

And key level

Yatta yatta

[glass mortar]

if u sim urself with zero raid buffs (or whatever buffs u have in ur dungeons) and PC itll be around 2m sim dps usually

[storm drum]

yeah im playing pc

[glass mortar]

depending on gear of course

[storm drum]

im at 666 lol doing like 11s right now

[glass mortar]

yea that sounds right

if ur playing HO build honestly

bosses are very swingy

[storm drum]

trying to farm this belt from fuckin cinder

yeah im playing HO

[glass mortar]

if u dont get a single 5 buff a whole boss can easily do 1.5-1.6m dps

[storm drum]

kir seems bleh too much

[glass mortar]

if u get at least 1 ur usually around 2m

if u get nonstop 5 buffs u could even do raid dps

[storm drum]

lol

[glass mortar]

kir feels more normalized

[storm drum]

the overall dps of some groups sometiems im just gappin kids doing like 4.5 mil overall and they do like 2.5 and 2mil lmao

havent tried it yet

[glass mortar]

yea outlaws very strong in low keys

[storm drum]

HO seems ez

[polar kelp]

Depends on your comp too. Stuck with a shammy/war/monk/druid...perfect. completely different then mage/priest/lock/pally

[glass mortar]

its the easier build

[storm drum]

guy says 11 is low key

[glass mortar]

wellllll

you know what i mean

[storm drum]

it is

yeah i know

[polar kelp]

You come to a forum dedicated to outlaw players...none of us are "casual"

So yea 11 is rat key

Lol

[storm drum]

having to do this fuckin step laderr each one timed on 11 before moving to a 12 so on and so forth

[glass mortar]

not low as in easy, low as in, CD specs havent really scaled up yet

[storm drum]

is it rat key if i started 1 week ago?

[glass mortar]

CD specs scale directly with key difficulty since in keys at that level, ur cds will likely overkill alot of packs

but outlaw just always does damage

[runic bough]

I have 2 toons at 668 and 669 so 10 is low now for sure

[glass mortar]

dont care about pack size

or timing

[polar kelp]

Yea cause you have catchup gear and everyone else is geared too

And the crowd of horrible average pugs is 10-12s right now

[runic bough]

Hmm

Yo Wox here?

[glass mortar]

@vivid vessel did u see this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871188656357015623/1370507521453723828/image.png?ex=681fc017&is=681e6e97&hm=2fb1f5b2619ed1ebb06280babf8f12dd02938e2387a013afbaa2168d36c44cd5&

4th rogue time???

[vivid vessel]

no

[glass mortar]

3 outlaw rogue +50 key ayo?

[vivid vessel]

i dont do alts

i dont do gearing up

[runic bough]

Wut

You said earlier that they wouldn't let you make a 4th rogue

[glass mortar]

hes coping

[runic bough]

Is mitch here?

Triple outlaw key and triple live stream pov

That would be fun split screen

[jade abyss]

how many targets are required to justifiy swapping for it?

[vivid vessel]

1

[jade abyss]

so 2 targets you go nightfall event weapon?

[red zinc]

hard to check but pretty sure as long as it isnt boss combat its pretty competitive on st

[vivid vessel]

1 target

we odnt use it on bosses cause it doesnt work

[jade abyss]

oh it doesn't work on boss

[vivid vessel]

not because its not worth in s1

[jade abyss]

yeah I just got it

I'm just dumb

[vivid vessel]

well you dont get the reset combat

[jade abyss]

it's dungeon thing alright

That means I can't read pins

jesus

[runic bough]

Zac

Zac

Idea

[gaunt phoenix]

idk if its worth on 1-2t

if you want to get technical

[runic bough]

Triple outlaw have 3 aoe interrupts with blind

[red zinc]

ye but not big enough diff to swap

[jade abyss]

yeah but I know now it's because it doesn't work on boss combat that it's just strictly worse

[red zinc]

like only worth to swap on bosses

[glass mortar]

thats almost as many stops as a single demon hunter

[red zinc]

not that you're pulling that much ST anywhere

[vivid vessel]

rogue is the spec with the least amount of aoe stops

but oi

[glass mortar]

yes zac but we can overcome that

by stacking 3 of them

3 outlaws = 1 real class of stops

[vivid vessel]

opk make sense

[glass mortar]

!!!!

[runic bough]

Possible high key 🔑

[vivid vessel]

this shit is bac k

[runic bough]

Don't use Google chrome

Firefox is nice

I have it on my devices rn

Zac, zeross, tiramisu triple outlaw when?

[glass mortar]

ross doesnt play outlaw

does he even have a 1her this season to try it

[runic bough]

I think so

[glass mortar]

seems like hes really enjoying sin

[runic bough]

Yeah he is sin main

But good at law too

[shut lichen]

imagine getting blackmailed by youtube

[tiny crystal]

People still using this nightfall curse blade in keys ?

[glass mortar]

the one in the pins?

[vivid vessel]

you look like a blizzard dev

are you here to nerf the weapon

[glass mortar]

[lime lake]

yes

[glass mortar]

nobody is using it

certainly not DW it

[lime lake]

nerf it pls

[glass mortar]

in mh and OH

its very bad

dont read the pins

[jade abyss]

For the macro to swap weapons, I have 2 daggers with the same name and I want 2 different enchants on them, i'd like to only use one of them in the macro. Is there a way to do that?

[glass mortar]

yes but its a little annoying

u need to make a macro that swaps a bagslot instead of an item name

[jade abyss]

ah I see

[glass mortar]

thats what i had to do because I DW cauldron weapons in my ST setup

i can get u the command 1 sec

[jade abyss]

I guess I can keep in bank or something

while I'm not playing assa/sub

[glass mortar]

nah i mean u just gotta make sure the dagger u wanna swap on and off is in the proper slot in ur bags

its not too bad

[jade abyss]

bagslot1 ?

something like that?

[glass mortar]

nah its

#showtooltip 17
/equipslot 17 3 19

the numbers are item slot (ur equipping onto), bag number (ur normal backpack is 0 not 1), slot in that bag

[jade abyss]

alright thanks very nice of you

[late swallow]

#showtooltip this guy’s balls

[vivid vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/pipotam-baby-hippo-hippo-wash-shower-gif-3406421565683572068

[glass mortar]

not far off

😏

[late swallow]

[vivid vessel]

wait

this weapon

got my balls in its mouth

[glass mortar]

u should see a dentist

but yes

[vivid vessel]

[glass mortar]

you know

maybe i should unmog these weapons

the aura on these fists

goes kinda hard

[vivid vessel]

no

[late swallow]

The shark ball guzzler fists go hard

[lapis forge]

I know I'm still learning, but the amount of CP I waste is starting to get to me