#outlaw
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right now ho, trying to gear it on the side so lacking the haste for kir
okay cool thank you
Yes
solo we still build to cdg if we can get there with free unseen blades if we're on 2 vanish charges right
cool. do the supercharged points effect decisions on when we'd send finishers?
no, they just buff your next finishers, whenever or whatever they are
they do add extra jumps to killing spree so u can enjoy being stun locked longer xd
gift that keeps on giving
if cdg and 2 vanish are both ready then i dont think it matters what you do
if cdg is not ready and you still need to finish then just vanish
btw when i ask random niche shit like this u can just tell me its within margin or whatever if u cba answering xd
its just that u can deterministically get that at the start of each key if u pre ks ygm
i checked zac vod and he does send the coup
ty for answering tho xox
i just woke up from a 4 hour nap AMA
what day is it
Thirsty?
what did you dream about
i dreamed that outlaw got acro back
Boring
Dream my outlaw dreams
Like 2h outlaw with death from above
Or a rtb that explodes
I will say that Outlaw with the Geargrinder's Spare Keys feels SO right.
It and Ratfang Toxin work pretty good for me, though I am noticing I'm struggling to keep one-million DPS.

I ran a key with PC instead of gs
It's more DPS but it feels so wrong esp on bosses
What a horrible world to wake up to, my condolences comrade
Bluetooth Rogue
Wouldnt trick kir be better on stix?
@gaunt phoenix have u done some onebutton rotation sims?
👀
i really wonder how it translate on outlaw 
Just play what ur comfy with
If u kir at a bad time ur kinda bricked ont hat fight
But in theory, assuming no mechanics, KiR would be better
i got to 9
i hit 10 in DF
well well well look what druid showed up
tell him if he played feral he might have gotten invited unlucky
Yeah but there's no adrenaline rush and vanish
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mRMwYZDoTrZmAxTKBHhMce
bottom one is the default list parsed by simc
middle one is edited

u mean in the sims or in the one button
In the one button
x2
i guess they have a stance of not adding certain cds
but should probably make an exception for outlaw
just delete the one button for outlaw at that point
check ur healing
oh ok my b
@vivid vessel https://www.youtube.com/live/-ZDhQ-nLQ-M?t=1077 what are you pressing here thats lowering cd for rush
i assume snd
it indeed is
didnt know you couyld free cast that
thats kind of giga for rik intermission
SnD used to be the best cdr button in the game
What should my ST patchwork sims be roughly at 670 ilvl ?
like 2.5M with full buffs
Sprocket finally dead jesus and got a decent parse
xd
not sure if I should stick with Fatebound or go Trickster
for what
rn just leveling, but ultimately prob m+ and some raid on the side
may as well get used to spree early
fatebound feels terrible as soon as you’re hitting more than 1 mob xd
so HO Trickster build?
so many procs and stuff to be aware of, not sure if I'm developing wrinkles in my brain or just having repeat strokes while learning rogue
sounds like you should visit your doctor
imagine having insurance, just gotta rub some dirt on it
tried assassination for a bit, it felt wrong, went back to outlaw a few minutes later
so I think that's a positive sign
is this still accurate btw?
no
trickster is required in m+ and best/tied with FB in ST. only time u dont run trickster (if ur min-mazxing) is certain mythic raid bosses where killing spree is unusable
what's the most important stuff to get/tunnel for in Trickster while leveling?
wowhead only goes over FB
while leveling?
is this still bis for trash?
you could do whatever u want while levelling
It looks like that's true
But i feel like its going to be nerfed, its very weird that it works on trash but not on bosses
i watch it literally teleport into the swirlies
oh i would low cp ks during swirlies
or ks before swirlies
i try to avoid ks during beam and swirlies
cause it is aids
i'm making weakauras for myself, do i need to track slice and dice or is it not really that important
You can ignore it, you get it automatically
i have a question...i was watching a stream and didnt rlly uunderstand what they were saying---starting next week patch, are enchanted guilded crests 30 crests instead of 60?
No enchanted crests are still 60
what was the 30 thing?
There will be a new mat to add +6 ilvls on top of enchanted
gilded augmentation thing
and it will cost 30
So a full craft will cost 90 now
oki ty
misspelled frost
how's HO vs KiR?
got the impression HO was more reliable, but KiR has higher potential
preference, they are close overall
HO is easier, flexible to gear, lower target favored, more rng
KIR is harder, strict with haste, higher target favored, less rng
thanks, appreciate the info
aside from being harder it's also relevant that kir is a looot more punishing
that kind of bundles into 'harder' imo
i think it's only worth mentioning bc getting punished for those mistakes is very miserably unfun
normally id agree
trying to figure out what to aim for while learning, if I can develop muscle memory early, all the better
it’s also infinitely more fun being rewarded for not making mistakes too
nice
ayy let's go congrats
i do not want to hold ks tho fr fr
send it then
I went kir fate
The main muscle memory will just be from when and why you vanish. HO incorporates a lot of "brute forcing" for good rolls
does anyone has a weakaura that can show which weapon u are wearing in offhand?
nvm i got it
What page is that?
Link
fixed the page
what is it meant to say?
what should we use our chip on next week?
the biggest upgrade
which is...
Sim mythic droptimiser
my guild might not be able to beat mugzee next week
turns out there’s nothing I actually want.
so we are not trickster in raid?
it depends
i was aksed to swap outlaw on rik and styk becasue our ranged are handicapped and cant swap to fuckin pillar on rick so they think assa is bad becasue add dmg low lmao
but ass pumps idk
we are over here 18 manning and 19 manning mythic lmao
for me
vexie trick
cauldron fb
rik trick
stix trick
locken fb
bandit trick
ok so killing spree you dont get killed on rick ?
or ill have to watch my positioning?
and is it kir or HO?
the wowhead guide isnt real specific
What isn't specific?
HO vs KiR and boss dependent in mythic raid
and trick vs fb and all that
its specific thats why im asking the questions im asking
did you just update it?
Nope

also, hekili prio apl was last updated 4/25/2025...should that prio list be fine or will i need to upload an apl
It should be fine
listen man i use the tool to get use to the rotation and i add weak auras and track shit as i go
thank you foreverguy
i appreciate it havent played rogue since df
just use the wow assisted rotation 1 button
I love rogue
Yeah me too i am finally getting to be the rogue for a guild lmao
assa is cool outlaw is cooler
I was a combat OG lol
Killing spree was dope in mop thats for sure
Rik is assas worst fight
Mega bystander but
Idk if ur not comfy with sub/otl its not gonna end well xd
Fatebound is best for Cauldron? That’s new to me 👀
i havent tried sub at all. outlaw isnt going to end well on rik?
I think its clost isnt it
And then KS just kills u cuz beams
if ur not super clued in lmao
2 FtH KiR definitely best
Also having to hold KS is just super frustrating imo
if gta releases all other game will be dead for me for years
Well idk about that but ye it’ll destroy everything
Like one thing for sure if a game wants to win goty
Shouldn’t release 2026
Bad time
Automatic loss
Rockstar is the only company that really make their games very very well and always add extra things that are noticable after years of people enjoying their games
Im excited to see the movies too we always had bad movies man
Batman part 2 like holy shit
Dune and a christopher nolan movie
Man
Dune is really needed
it shouldnt wait too long tbh
Thinking of tying the new Dune game
defo not
2026 feels fine imo
it could be though i guess if the World Cup doesn't suck ass, but those enough aren't enough to carry the year
2010 world cup was goated wdym?
is killing spree usable on the bosses in mecha? do u guys jsut send it w 1poitn
Ye 2022 ass
2018 was fire ngl
2014 was sick, not biased at all
Yeah true
I guess its just the last one that sucked
Glad messi won it but like
Boring as hell
Been watching them since 2002,2006 was neat
some would say the referee was a paid actor
i wouldn't
but some would

can't argue with that
Final is 31 this month?
Something like thay ye
PSG v Inter
May 31 ye
my money is on Inter ngl
Would be hilarious if psg wins it
Mbappe’s gonna get mad as hell


This is mbappe btw ^

Nah he just looks like him

Oh fuck they’re saying batman 2 is in 2027

Naaah i got baited
we wiped 5 times to adds
and our warrior saying his clap dont do shit mobs are dred
before realising that he swapped to arms and doesnt have clap talented xdd
wait fury plays with clap?
ah
I think I found why I'm feeling energy starved, I need to KS more
Is there a rogue defensive cheat for m+ like book of shadows during sepulcher
for laws u just press feint when u got a bad feeling about sth
is kir better than HO now? seeing a lot of top outlaws speccing it on murlok
it depends on the key level REALLY if youre progressing on +17 18 19
yes
else NO
so if im just pushing to a casual 3k io HO it is XD
kk
EXACTLY
yes you can play kir
who cares
BUT ho is better on low level
depends on the person
sure, u can do whatever u want—it's not like it'll hurt anyway
Yeah
Well i have a couple of friends who are doing 15s said they gonna help me. I usually get around 2800 but i feel like pushing XD
ive been running HO for my 3k run, was just curious on why high end players are swapping kir
and outlaw is my favorite spec and due to how aassa cleave works on Rick raid leader asked me to swap outlaw lmao
alan probably because they get bored with HO and need something else to do and understand Roll the bones buffs and can track it very well for more dmg and better procs
Ask solo
Zac’s usually delusional about builds
is he asleep
Idk
epic
@gaunt phoenix u sleeping or
i can play both playstyles fine, hell i played outlaw when crackshot didnt refresh bte cd when u enter stealth
I saw how much dmg the top end outlaw did on styx that trash boss almost 5 mil like what is that
so also while hitting a dummy i noticed that killing spree usually comes of cd before ghostly strike....save KS? or just send?
and ngl kir giving 6 buffs so i dont have to worry about supercharger value + deft for braindead cp generation is a little tempting to try
i never save either i send immediately
well gs sometimes for cp
what keys you up to alan?
13s on my rogue
oh decent ok
how is darkflame cleft i just tried it as outlaw farming for the ring...anyway i notice i get stunned on third boss and trash in first room its dangerous anyway around it?
shroud it
you mean cloak of shadows it?
yeah i noticed once the purple light goes out and wax is on the floor its safe
Can you use two crafted rings? It doesn't have unique equipped
oh well i top the meters in raid with my guild some fights as assa lets hope outlaw doesnt shit the bed for me lol
ima say no boss man
yeah you can
oh shit i learned something new
Awesome, that will give me the haste I need to go kir
harder to play, but yes
ppl tell me the dmg between assa and outlaw is negligible. So im wondering if the kir and HO is negligiable
KIR does come out on top overall, just harder to play
i should of stayed tauren going outlaw instead of swapping undead lmao
WHy is it so much harder to play just having to track you buffs and not roll the bones when having great buffs?
Ambush procs make the spec a lot simpler to play, and being able to just ambush on subterfuge is a lot simpler as well.
And you need to keep track of KIR itself and the conditions to push it
Its unfortunate but on that boss u really just have to send it on 1/2 combo points your killing sporee
we almost 3400 boyos
Just got floodgate, priory, and ML to go
was there any discord to look for ppl for higher keys ? if anyone knows
!wa

hows the one btn assistant doing for outlaw rogues?
Poor
Gcd increase for outlaw is a bit of a doomed scenario
No
ok
Kir is better in higher count pulls
Ho is better in smaller pulls
~
Not even sure if ho is better in small pulls
kir appeals to me bcuz outlaw with broadside 5buff and no broadside 2buff is a fucking world of difference
being able to keep up broadside is pog
as i know Kir deals more damage but you shouldnt at all
aand play with the lowest downtime possible
I like kir 1 fth cause I don't have to choose between talents
honestly i will most likely just take kir into a key and test it out myself compared to HO
it can also be a preference/comfort thing. There are HO users among top outlaw rated players
when im playing HO and i rtb like 5 times and no broadside, that is like literally the worst feeling ever
worse than being cheated on lowkey
maybe kir can save me…
kir feels even more worse without bs
damn
kir is fun but no 10 soul rending ambushes
losimg 10 seconds on a kir use is also bad

What is the cancel aura macro for Killing spree
Ahah 
funny
Haha
Bro
They bug fixed some Aug stuffs so now it's even better
When will this ever stop
💀
I'm not playing another season of Aug
are they even close to being decent though
The answer is
Before all of that
Aug was already decent
Like it s currently in à good spot
So buffing it even more Will make it meta again
perhaps they should stop with the buffs
but this is the same blizzard that buffed boomkin and ret paladin :^)
Perhaps they should go back to nerfing them instead
Its a good season
Litteraly every season with Aug has been trash
I think everyone can see that
because you're playing outlaw 
S3 was fine
tanks love aug
healers probably too
When Aug is meta you have 2 DPS viable and that's it no one ever play anything else
Idk zac I think this iteration of aug will be SLIGHTLY healthier
Just cause its not a healing/tank requirement anymore
Imagine if they get 2 more +10% buffs
How healtier it is
To play mage + aug + int class
Again
also aren't they now doing more personal damage and less buffing teammates?

It's a third slot requirements that buff the meta spec to be even more meta
I mean imagine dk got 20% damage buff
I hope this shit spec stay dead forever
I just wanna be free ..
Anything will be oppressive if you buff it enough
We just won’t have this bs where aug is objectively worse damage wise yet still gets played due to the healer and tank buffing
It can be replaced easier now is all im sayin

Meh
If you have meta specs that are ahead
And You buff meta spec
You make meta specs even better
wait didn't they change aug to not buff tanks and healers anymore
or was I imagining it
Dont forget
Aug is pi but worse
last season where casters were bad was so nice
Aug is fine
wasn't the meta enh/fdk/aug
No one is going to suddenly need aug for these high end key
Ye for one week lol
sometimes you could play assa instead of fdk
It’s still aids
Well
no way
Not True zac also
We played Aug enh balance
One guy timing a 19 with aug when other comps doing more is just silly
All season


Inb4 last season 2 px gets nerfed
Ret got sent to brazil after first week
No one played fdk tho

Idk what this chart is
Oh wait its the other way around
Why did people play ret last week
weren't we talking about the entire season
Dk was at the start of the season then they all swapped it for a Boomie
as u can see
It's not the same meta over in china
deal with it
Eu pu
13 ish % dk presence in top keys
China has different aura buffs on specs i swear
every week
Deal with what
that s ikt
Only china were playing dk
They don’t
Litteraly
They just have different community perception
They litteraly did tho 
frost mage being played there every single season even when it sucks
is so weird to me
Gotta be something going on
their anti-gambling laws makes all chance based procs guaranteed 
China isnt locked down by community perception like na is
A lot of specs and comps are viable
Idk you look at raider io stats but china always has a different meta so
We just gravitate to a god comp for some reason now
Kinda not the same game as us
Idk if we care about what china doesn
Cause it doesn't impact us
Same game
I can accept them not caring about metas but if you are playing at that level surely you sit on dummies and see that one spec is turbo busted and one isnt
like cmon

Same game but the entire first season they were playing with full raid buff so
And they just play random comps all the time idk
Not the same players
Then you realize that most specs can touch these cutting edge keys if dedicated enough
bring back buff scrolls
Again now we just gravitate to a god comp
U mean like wox playing outlaw 99% of the time when it s behind?
Post df season 2

You mean assa?
I think you meant assa
No
Nah outlaw
I think you meant assa tho
Not just 1 sentence
Ye assa
Out of contexte

You stupid french
Context with an e
woah
Calling me stupid french
How ironic
Bbq
Côme
Tg
You have a arrow above your o


cöme
Phone or skill issue ?
Tgtg
C üm

Mine luxemburgish
nah that’s a huge flex
Wtf is that t
he went there
Just ignore him?
I actually type more in spanish
I like Zeross

Fk zero
@gaunt phoenix just want to say I love the use of timestamps for stuff like this, great way to show how fresh the info is 
No if you say something slightly homoerotic to him he says “wtf?” and goes to assa channel
Real?
!fuu
Ok
Why
But why
just swaps languages mid sentence
Secret life
because why not
????
i m not only a burger flipper
Tell me wtf
????

first my family is in spain
2nd my family is even more in spain
3rd my best friends are in spain
Ew
4th i hate french
your 2nd family
Spain
5 zero is ugly
So who is in korea
kpop
His gf
^
Me
He doesn't have a gf

have u?
No

Feet
What's the difference?? :D
i mean
there is a diff between my feet and face
unlike zac's head and butt
but wel
is that a part of the fetish reveal?
that s anotha sotry
Btw i still sell zac's voice
No I told you guys I'm not a feet enjoyer
Smell like corn
I still don't get the feet thing
there is nothing to get
What are we talking about right now?
feet
cool
zac
u should play clair obscure
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (Original Soundtrack) - Lumière
Composed by Lorien Testard ft. Alice Duport-Percier
Orchestral performance by Orchestre Curieux.
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Lyric...
actual banger game
Feet fetish is mental
Illness
ah so u admit to it
i dont really play solo games
finally
let s play it together then
- its a turn based game
i wont let you solo
did solo watch solo leveling yet or nah?
i dont really play non competitive games idk
ok popo you are bad
goated
ye i played minecraft for a long time
Censi you don't even compare to the likes of me
but idk i have stopped enjoying games without a competitive aspect
for real?
i cant really do it anymore
Latest snapshot had a fog update
depends on what u do in it
only game i will play is gta6 just for the technical aspect
because im still pasionate about the gaming industry in general
but i wont actually play the game i think
gta6 announced for may 2026 minimum
that shit ugly af
Fr
is a big crash in video game industry
what does that mean
Looks good in caves though
Everywhere else is balls
nice
I ain't buying that
Yeah
gta will be 150 ish
idk i think rokstar got fuck you money so they can afford making actual good games
no cap
and thats cool
no
imagine complaining
so
instead of just
dont think anyone will care about gta price
not buying
ngl
gta6 will be on pc lik
the game
lmao you're dumb if you think itll be 150
100 sure
i would buy it for 150
i wont buy it
and never play it anyway
yeah that’s toxic af
but

delayed pc launch
I'll be busy playing next year's CoD
is a big bad for video game industry
hardware gonna decrease
my nvidia stocks dude

how imma print monney
ye
im waiting for gta to release on pc to upgrade my pc i think
I do
so i just buy the current stuffs
the leaks are kinda odd about that game though
can’t wait for my huawei gpu for 1/5th the price + submitting my data to the chinese govt
who cares about consoles
that s normal tiem
i mean
every single game has performance settings now
tim
to be 60fps
and it s rockstar
what is your real name
zac
wht
wht
wht
wht
I made lemonade from fresh Lemons and homemade brown sugar
also
just say the name buddy
buddy
no way the mace is properly implemented in simc
why
ts is simming for 0.5% dps on 10t 1min
patchwerk is bosses
superior game
so it wont reset
Real
fact
xD
u right
it will only "work" in slice thechincally
because only slice is coded to have combat drop
minecraft or farming 600 crests in boring wow
surely it works on target dummy
minecraft it is
altough i hope it actually work on vanish but it prolly does
I can have my own haunted castle in Minecraft but not WoW
prolly not no
Minecraft>WoW
they had to do special things for slice
kinda pointless to sim this thing still then

cause you only really care about the aoe sims specifically

i only see java on that screenshot
sim slice and tell me how much it is
that’s why we want wep swap
THAT S MA BOI
yeah but like
i wanted to actually proper sim vs 684 weapons
ick
they cant install mod
and now i cant
how do you guiys play keys with your alts btw ?
cant use dynamyc light
say my key is a 9 now
buy raid boost first and then just push own key
I don't use left hand
you put the key in, hit mobs
i cant play it anymore
oh
i go and queue up
so what do i do
i come
yeah gotta lower to 8
8?
lmao give up on a 9 lmao
9 is banned
lmao lmao
8 only
LMAOOO
but then how do you ever get to 10
Bros doing a 9
maybe you just need more exp bud
dude is washed up
you have to + 2 a 8 or ?
yes
you just
you do actually
hm
get boosted a 11
thats so cringe honestly
it is
low keys shit is annoying
like zac
i talked about this a week ago
8-9 is the real elo hell
people in 8's are too shit to 2chest the key
and you cant play 9s
once you get to 10 you're fine
of course
take him
another rando?
who that random
weird

tbh
wtf
dont
who tf are these randos
pranked
Ew ban these weirdos tbh
can i heal on my 540 hpriest zac?
is that a kreygasm or?
workmen, is that what they’re callin them these days hm?
come do my 10
wati there still is no one applying to a 10 tho
im confusion
today is an holiday right
or should i be at work
@desert tendon ?
why isnt your main rio showing
too low rio i think
since i dont real life work anymore
i dont even know what day of the week we re at

you forgot the names of the days of the week?
gz
someone won
we kinda did i think
and that’s why ur celebrating
white flag = winning






