outlaw

[blissful idol]

okay

ty

and with crafted items?

[gaunt phoenix]

you purchase a gilded augmentation thing for 30 crests

which lets you add 6 ilvls on recraft

[slate forge]

How do lockouts work could I pug vexie before raid then join their lockout or no?

[red zinc]

no

[slate forge]

Sad

[blissful idol]

@gaunt phoenix can u check dms 1 sec

[red zinc]

outlaw played more in raid than sub

vi von

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix can u check dms 1 sec

[gaunt phoenix]

[red zinc]

@vivid vessel can you check dms one sec

[red zinc]

zamn!

[gaunt phoenix]

zacc

i think

kir likes ghostly strike more than ho

for the cps i guess

and it has infinite energy i guess

[vivid vessel]

how would we know that

[upper pivot]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB as you enter the dungeon to get 2 Supercharger stacks.
• DO NOT RTB again inside the bubble as you will lose the supercharger stacks, similarly do not AR early inside the bubble or you will lose the combo points.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open on pack with AR into BtE.

[coral onyx]

cudgel pretty nice actually, couldnt get it untill today

[lean grove]

Is remnant of darkness good for Keys ?

[gaunt phoenix]

like KIR 2 FTH without GS doesnt sim all that impressive

compared to HO without GS

but if you add GS to both builds they are closer

[gaunt phoenix]

ye it's good enough

[vivid vessel]

i see

make sense

[gaunt phoenix]

does like nothing on the first pull tho

idk i dont love that its ramping but it prob doesnt matter much

overall

[lean grove]

i mean, i have the choice between those two trinkets or the pants idk

i got the same two equipped on Hero Track

[gaunt phoenix]

geargrinder is generally bis

though it can just drop from the raid

or with dinar

[lean grove]

ye, i thought the same thing

i guess ill go myth raid first

[gaunt phoenix]

for the dinar, if you have no hope of getting mythic capo, and already have heroic capo, then you can prob dinar geargrinder or magnet

[lean grove]

idk, trinkets for outlaw feels w/e for AOE, i guess ill try to get gear grinder might buy another trinket with the dinar

[gaunt phoenix]

ye i mean all trinkets are <= 2% dmg

geargrinder is generally the best one

[lean grove]

surely i get it from raid

btw does wound poison work on the mobs before last the boss in cinderbrew ?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes but you have to cleave the mobs below 52% hp

[lean grove]

ok thats big

[pliant wind]

Im trying HO without GS and feels very smooth

[gaunt phoenix]

ya

[pliant wind]

maybe a little less dmg but is fast and rotates very good

[chilly dagger]

i feel like i can make a mistake as ho and not gimp myself like kir. adr comes up quicker just cause

[pliant wind]

and you can adapt easier in pulls

I like CTO in HO too

[proven ocean]

[pliant wind]

[Report]

[proven ocean]

its weird that it just hides the name too when someone says something sus

[pliant wind]

[red zinc]

Below 48 right? 48% healing reduction so they heal 52% hp

[gaunt phoenix]

oh ye

[blissful idol]

mad?

[halcyon elm]

im an enjoyer of the o/ greeting

[shut lichen]

o7

[halcyon elm]

yoyo is a toy, not a greeting

[shut lichen]

yoyo is what you say when ur a step from crashing out if you deplete again

[ebon reef]

How do you usually deal with sprocket on mythic, do you switch to fatebound or delay ks till it's safe or you have an immunity

[fossil lintel]

I have yet to get kicked with meowdy

[gaunt phoenix]

you have to fatebound, there are no trickster sprocket logs

[ebon reef]

Damn what if I'm the first trickster on there

[vivid vessel]

if you never ks ye

bro said delay ks till safe

have you pulled the boss yet

💀

[shut lichen]

ks on sprocket lmao

o7 ur raid buddy

[ebon reef]

No I'm just feelycrafting

We r gonna start prog today

[fossil lintel]

Man is doing his homework

[vivid vessel]

yuo aint feelycrafting 💀

thats shitcrafting on god 💀

[shut lichen]

going to spend a good chunk of time just getting people to use the gateway correctly

[vivid vessel]

try it out tho 💀

[shut lichen]

ks on first pull and you'll see why you don't KS

[vivid vessel]

one till till benched

[haughty wigeon]

Ya you can’t hold ks on sprocket

Also

[vivid vessel]

speedrunning the bench

[haughty wigeon]

Ks on sprocket

[vivid vessel]

💀

[shut lichen]

[haughty wigeon]

I call this

The GREEN noise

[red zinc]

I was able to press ks on sprocket wym

just wasnt able to do it again

[vivid vessel]

💀

[red zinc]

[shut lichen]

[red zinc]

pressing ks on sprocket is like jumping out of a plane with no parachute

[ebon reef]

On God on God I'm cooking

[red zinc]

Great while it lasts

[haughty wigeon]

I love how there’s not just one boss

[ebon reef]

Trust the proccess

[haughty wigeon]

But multiple

That fucks ks

Holding ks until safe would be a nice solution

If outlaw wasn’t outlaw

[shut lichen]

5head ks intermission to avoid knockback

[ebon reef]

I mean I can just try to coax my way into getting babied with cds

Cloak, CD, gs, maybe coccoon or pala immunity

[shut lichen]

i'm in support of u trying once

[ebon reef]

[shut lichen]

just the first pull

[red zinc]

Just bring 7 prot palas for spellwards

[ebon reef]

Was already planning that

If I die too much (which I won't) I can just go sub

[gaunt phoenix]

Why does hammer of wrath have a herta emote

[shut lichen]

hammer of wrath has a lot of odd emotes

ravenholdt clearly is the most sophisticated server

[red zinc]

No new emotes in a while

[ebon reef]

Why not

[red zinc]

Being in hammer of wrath means you do not get any women

[gaunt phoenix]

hm

[wintry solar]

These are the only emojis that involve outlaw that aren't spec abilities

Just need like 2 more

[cedar kernel]

wtf he kill a boss at May 11th

brothers this bro live in future

[red zinc]

Check him pc!

[gaunt phoenix]

nice

[harsh quartz]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[ebon reef]

What about the women in how

[fossil lintel]

They also don't get any women

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-maidens-gif-27260529

[hidden cliff]

guys dwarf or nelf for tryharding m+

[kindred chasm]

I'd say dwarf

Can someone help me decide if 2 1h weapons or 1 1h and a dagger is better atm?

[covert kestrel]

well in keys the bis oh is from the new patch event

which is a 1h

[gaunt phoenix]

they are normally the same

[cinder relic]

Nelf skips are kinda not used atm right

Dwarf is big dam and is more generically useful

[gaunt phoenix]

but our ideal offhand is a proc weapon (capo's molten knuckles, or nightfall event mace)

[vivid vessel]

ye they

are

by your tank tho

or wdym

[loud locust]

Do you know the name of it

is it this one

[gaunt phoenix]

its in pin

yes

[loud locust]

ah ty

[cinder relic]

a guy asked if dwarf or nelf

I said, probably dwarf because nelf skips aren't that widely used as a rogue compared to other seasons afaik

I could be wrong but

[hollow temple]

i love me a 3rd restealth as nelf

nothing better than that

[loud locust]

Just curious, should I follow this?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q9SiP1iCaUMzd4BJ4xmDWA
Hero Track Dungeons
Vet Track Raid

Forgot to select raid trink actualy

simmed it, was a decrease anyway

[proven ocean]

i hate toiletlaw players

[surreal flower]

Are you trying to sim for dungeon?

[proven ocean]

hi spongebob didnt know u played wow

[gaunt phoenix]

the neck is only a massive upgrade because you have too much haste

you could recraft your current neck to be better than vault neck

ultimately you can farm or craft to replace most of the possible choices here

[loud locust]

Yeah, aint the greatest sim just wanted a ballpoint. not looking for like stealth numbers and stuff like that just see what is an upgrade

[loud locust]

Yeah just started

[loud locust]

Yeah which is why I wasn't sure what to do

I know all of it being farmable doesn't exactly give me the best options

[loud locust]

Also I have 20% baseline haste, was that not what we needed?

[gaunt phoenix]

i would probably take heroic pants from this vault

because it's a direct upgrade without spending resources and can only be replaced by M pants

[loud locust]

Currently simming my neck with different stats

[loud locust]

Sweet

[gaunt phoenix]

for the HO build, you dont need 20% haste

[loud locust]

is that the build I am playing

[gaunt phoenix]

especially this version that removes ghostly strike

you can likely cut off at least 5% haste

i tend to hover around 14% or so with this

[loud locust]

Is this the best build btw? I know there's tons of different ones just not sure what is the actual "best"

100k dps increase

[gaunt phoenix]

we have a couple preference there is not exactly a "best" at all times

[loud locust]

not actual numbers as I simmed 5t 1.3m

Which would you say is like the "safest" to pick I suppose

I hate swapping talents for dungeons, specific things like that

Rather just have a 1 trick build

[gaunt phoenix]

but generally yes you should use this build, i recommend it and play it in keys

[loud locust]

Sweet

Any preference for raid talents too?

[gaunt phoenix]

just the single target version

HO Trickster here #1276306011296366745 message

on heroic you can get away with killing spree on every boss

[loud locust]

Sweet, pretty much same talents so probably same rotation

[gaunt phoenix]

in raid you may optimize towards more haste than keys

because ghostly strike is rather expensive

[loud locust]

I mean crafting crit vers neck will be better, then I can take the legs

Don't even need to waste a charge on catalyst either since one of the delve pants come with tier

[gaunt phoenix]

yepp

[loud locust]

Appreciate the help :)

[gaunt phoenix]

[austere arch]

is there a optimal way to use junkmaestro trinket?

[gaunt phoenix]

mostly no, the total damage is the same like if you use it 1 time at 30 stacks or 6 times at 5 stacks

but the stacks let you hold it for vulnerability windows like floodgate/motherlode/rookery bosses

[austere arch]

i see, did bandit with it and only got to use it once at 30stacks during the fight, felt like i was doing something wrong

[gaunt phoenix]

only thing you can do wrong is not sending it at the end of the fight

to expend whatever remaining stacks are there

[austere arch]

ty!

[final sluice]

oh just saw - can i still get that daggery thing?

[gaunt phoenix]

the nightfall mace you mean?

yeah you can

[final sluice]

yeah mace

but other weekly now or wa?

[gaunt phoenix]

other weekly?

[keen belfry]

PC in CB?

@vivid vessel thoughts?

[latent belfry]

PB in J?

[vivid vessel]

This was pc accidentally

[keen belfry]

i also feel like u cant run cheat in there

16+

[vivid vessel]

No you can't

[keen belfry]

for first boss alone

right?

[vivid vessel]

Well 16 is fine

[keen belfry]

i have druid in this 16

im dead

[vivid vessel]

I started struggling at 17

Also its mostly for the adds and second boss

First boss felt ok

It's the adds before second boss that are hard without elus tho

And first pack a bit

[lapis forge]

How does Supercharger work? If I have 7/7 CP and 2 of them are supercharged, do I get the benefit of 7+ CP, or are those "extra" CP wasted because I'm already at 7/7?

[gaunt phoenix]

it still benefits

Supercharger buffs your next 2 finishers

the visual indicator is not meant to imply a literal supercharged combo point

if you gain supercharger, then spend at 7cp, it is then treated as 10cp

[lapis forge]

Ah, that makes sense

[sullen wyvern]

zac saw you #1 outlaw on rio good shit man

[gaunt phoenix]

Likewise a supercharged coup de grace at 7cp is really 15cp

[lapis forge]

made a new rogue the other night cause I was tired of Nelf, been enjoying the dwarf outlaw a lot more, kinda feels like a slayer pirate

[runic bough]

Triple outlaw was fun

We should do more

Grow outlaw players

[white mantle]

If I put sad in crafted then recraft does socket disappear

[runic bough]

What

[cinder relic]

What

No

It only loses socket when u go up a different tier

Like as in, use a different spark

[white mantle]

ok so matrix won’t remove

👍

[runic bough]

I want to see a pro triple outlaw key

[white mantle]

it works

trust me

[tulip jewel]

you don't consider urself pro?

[runic bough]

Granted they were in the same region, Zac, zeross, wox triple outlaw would be crazy.

I'm still not doing trickster rotation right so dps is lower than it should be. I think pro players have full understanding of their dmg usually.

[tulip jewel]

xd

[runic bough]

I just press buttons I don't know why they work together haha

Well mostly I do after spending so much time in talents sure.

[normal forge]

can they recolor rogue tier 2 even worse?

[runic bough]

[tulip jewel]

so relatable

[runic bough]

Well I think I can start climbing now

In keys

I'm working on cc and I have the gear now

Almost 670 should be easier to get all my 12's done now

[livid pewter]

thank you so much blizzard... i really need more trinkets ....

[vivid vessel]

Till wox start playing outlaw keys again

I need to find a group

[white mantle]

can’t you still get away with outlaw

[tulip jewel]

he abandoned us

[white mantle]

or are we talking 18

[vivid vessel]

Wdym

[vivid vessel]

Disappointing ngl

[tulip jewel]

agreed

[white mantle]

feel like you can find a group after unholy nerf

[vivid vessel]

I mean the only issue is me being anti social lol

Not my spec

[white mantle]

oh well stop that

[runic bough]

Zac is well known

[vivid vessel]

Too hard

[tulip jewel]

have someone cook up the assignment weakauras

xd

[vivid vessel]

Ye

I mean I could do it

[runic bough]

Didn't you have group before zac

[vivid vessel]

Not sure I wanna invest the time tho

I had a group in s1

[tulip jewel]

where are they now?

[vivid vessel]

Wasn't meant to be

We have different ideas about the game

[tulip jewel]

you broke up

[runic bough]

Zac gave them the boot

[vivid vessel]

Aka they are big time fotm rerollers

[bronze bough]

Any weakaura enthusiast that can help me out with a rogue weakaura i wanna make? 😄

[tulip jewel]

xd

[vivid vessel]

And I cannot nor do I want

Do that

[tulip jewel]

that'll do it

[white mantle]

Get the band back rogether

[runic bough]

Yeah when you get into high keys I can imagine the meta thinkers being really toxic

[vivid vessel]

I want to find people like wox group

Just one tricks that will play the same spec forever

And just do that every season with an off meta comp

[tulip jewel]

except there's like 3 players that aren't veng rn xd

[real valley]

hi @vivid vessel , didnt you have a macro that would do a notification sound on bte reset? 👀

[vivid vessel]

I think you can legit get top 10 group on Rio with an off meta comp every season

[vivid vessel]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[real valley]

thanks

[vivid vessel]

Ace refund sound trigger

[vivid vessel]

Yep

That's the issue

[tulip jewel]

yeh it's cooked

trying to find a brew/guardian

[vivid vessel]

People are less willing to play off meta

[viral bison]

i guess i lost my soul 10/10 recommend

[vivid vessel]

With time going

[worldly shale]

is citrine ring simming correctly?
my sims are saying roulette wheel (small mast, big vers) and faded champ ring are simming ALOT better than citrine + wicks golden loop

[viral bison]

go comp stomp full gear pve and burst who ever you see (you win 90% of the fights)

[tulip jewel]

they need every helping hand they can get that's why

that's why there's some real potatoes around haha

[vivid vessel]

I mean it's understandable

M+ tuning is always so trasb

[runic bough]

Jpc has a group at outlaw and feral is doing nice

[tulip jewel]

definitely

[vivid vessel]

You legit gain 2 key level just playing the correct specs

[vivid vessel]

Jpc is playing udk lol

[viral bison]

AGREED

[runic bough]

Who is the rogue named notjpc

[vivid vessel]

Notjpc

[runic bough]

[vivid vessel]

Obviously?

[runic bough]

[proven ocean]

Im jpc but renamed to zeross this expansion

[runic bough]

Zeross can you use your connections to get Zac a team

[proven ocean]

[runic bough]

[gaunt phoenix]

Link it

[proven ocean]

Zac is begging for a grp now or what

Absolute rat behavior

[vivid vessel]

?

[proven ocean]

Big ego player

[vivid vessel]

You are speaking with ryuk

[proven ocean]

Its ok we know u told him to ask np zac

I’ll help

[worldly shale]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5QtFFQmL8zH1ZFXs7mRnet

[novel socket]

where new pin

where more POWER

[gaunt phoenix]

?!

[novel socket]

[runic bough]

No I was trying to help him, I know zeross has connections

[lucid sandal]

Guys quick question

Does blade flurry hit the adds in the gaols on mug'zee

[runic bough]

I dont think so

[lucid sandal]

Apparently caustic spatter does? What the fuck

[runic bough]

Well some specs are meta for a reason

Others are restricted

Just what we have to deal with

[fossil lintel]

Hey solo, quick question: I saw that whispyr simmed the one button for sin, have we done that for outlaw? I wonder how much worse it would be given outlaw is incapable of maintaining AR with a 20% increased GCD.

[gaunt phoenix]

perhaps because:

• your current setup is 19.83% haste, you dont need that much when you remove ghostly strike, without wicks ring you have 15% or so, that sounds more expected
• your base crit rating is kinda low (4487) so i can see a crit item being comparatively good
• your circlet gems are single target, can try stormbringer + undersea + windsinger

reran it with different gems, didnt look at raid buffs https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jb3MgKK3Aim3Af2f4SCCPE

[potent latch]

do you prefer KIR 2FTH or 1FTH&PC? (for +15/+16 keys)

[sharp sand]

Dalaran Gaming covered a 2 min of most DPS classes. Outlaw did like 1.3 ST and 3.4 AoE (like a dungeon slice dummy)

[gaunt phoenix]

I want to prefer kir 1fth but its hard

[keen belfry]

how do you press

KS on candle king

[gaunt phoenix]

the current outlaw logic for 1 button is completely tragic (e.g. it is missing adrenaline rush and vanish)

[silk stirrup]

Hi guys, is Dslice trustable for Top gear? I'm simming some stuff and it gives me 4.5m overall but I'm usually around 5.5-6

[potent latch]

so 2fth just makes it easier to play right, but 1fth+pc has higher output

[silk stirrup]

Simming HO trickets M+ build

[gaunt phoenix]

Dslice is good for comparing gear, its not trying to be a details overall though

it is just a ~6 minute boss+trash scenario

[silk stirrup]

gotcha

[gaunt phoenix]

if you were to somehow do the same events of dungeonslice your dps would probably match it

[silk stirrup]

but I can trust the gear statweight comparison

[gaunt phoenix]

stat weight is not super meaningful in general, it wont capture the value of haste well

but dslice in Top Gear is good

[keen belfry]

@vivid vessel is it just reliant onthe tank knowing u have to press KS to function

[silk stirrup]

That's what I meant, to trust the item it tells me does the highest damage

Just crafting some stuff and figuring out which stats to put

[gaunt phoenix]

for gear yes

[silk stirrup]

Thanks!

[gaunt phoenix]

For like, evaluating the dps of precise cuts, its kind of arbitrary to model that cause it depends on pulls

[timber knoll]

we need someone to have like tettles or w/e make a video about outlaw being really good now

so we can get invited

[silk stirrup]

nono better sangbag to avoid nerfs

better to remain in the shadows being secretly good

and underplayed

look at the UHDK shitshow

[timber knoll]

are ppl not inviting them anymore

[gaunt phoenix]

no just most dks arent very good

Cause fotm reroll

[runic bough]

Guys it doesn't matter

They still find things to nerf on us all the time

At least we are working now

[cinder relic]

How do u guys still manage to have such a victim complex when the spec is actually good

[runic bough]

Less bugs

Its not victim complex

[keen belfry]

is guy getting ryukage baited rn

[runic bough]

Btw

Its a history of being bullied by tuning

[rotund zodiac]

👀

[covert kestrel]

[viral tusk]

Hi rogues one question, I need a waist and I wanted to craft me one, but I heard something about a legendary waist to come in future patches, should I craft mine?

[gaunt phoenix]

Ryu you have invented a reality in your head about how outlaw came to be how it is

[shell fossil]

i only pressed killing spree 49 times in a 10 today

depression

[gaunt phoenix]

There is a belt in 11.1.7

[fossil lintel]

My experience as someone who came back a few days ago, I'm getting invited to pretty much every group I apply to for m+

[gaunt phoenix]

but i mean you will have 12 sparks by then

[rotund zodiac]

this said belt will be bis?

[gaunt phoenix]

no clue

[rotund zodiac]

hmm

I hope they just did it like DF

that helm enchant thing

[wicked obsidian]

trolling a complete spec with abilities like KS leads to psychological damage

[rotund zodiac]

so no slot wasted

[runic bough]

We are lucky right now because bf was fixed and it wasn't planned to make us this strong.

Enjoy it brothers

And sistas

[rotund zodiac]

I was suprised the bug got fixed so fast once it got called out

[raven socket]

I just want acrobatic strikes back and a fixed KS,that's it

[craggy barn]

what of they built in shadow quake into outlaw pepw

[rotund zodiac]

like 4 days

[craggy barn]

how funny would that be

[rotund zodiac]

more like a sub thing

xd

[craggy barn]

just change the animation

and fx

[rotund zodiac]

change name and effect

yea

[fossil lintel]

Shadow quake is pretty satisfying, seeing it pop when you vanish

[craggy barn]

yea

into gunpowder

NEW capstone idea

huge

capstone to uncapped

[vivid vessel]

Just don't read Ryu and it's ok

True it does feel like a big gunpowder explosion lol

[craggy barn]

replace gsw

[vivid vessel]

It always amaze me how mega random items or trinkets CNA have better animation than specs spells

[bright crane]

Probably cause it’s made for more people

[fossil lintel]

Next patch: crack shot replaced with shadow quake. There would be riot on the streets, all 5 of us would attend

[craggy barn]

its only 3% overall so already tuned perfectly

[tulip jewel]

intern got given the job

[vivid vessel]

Is it

Some trinkets are so never used

Idk

• its like

for one season

[bright crane]

Whether theyre actually used is a diff story

[runic bough]

Have u seen anyone use kujo trinket?

[craggy barn]

this weapon would be meh if we still had shadow dance

[rotund zodiac]

what pack size do you think isn't worth to use Cudgel?

[vivid vessel]

https://youtu.be/Y0mBRNEe14c?si=-k8duqc2AUQ16rrg&t=863

[rotund zodiac]

I feel like 3-4

[craggy barn]

2

[rotund zodiac]

hmm

[bright crane]

But let’s be real; the potential # of alts who may use cudgel is probably larger than the number of ppl playing outlaw

[craggy barn]

the other weapons are all auto attack procs

[rotund zodiac]

bro, how lucky was that ks

[bright crane]

And assuming that’s true, making the item have a nice effect isn’t necessarily a crazy idea

[rotund zodiac]

😭

[runic bough]

Small note is also this mace is the only visual for bf in a sense we have gotten as well. Besides damage numbers.

[vivid vessel]

whcih one

[proven ocean]

1.9m is diabolical

[rotund zodiac]

the first one

[vivid vessel]

i pressed cloak

[proven ocean]

Assa does more with deathmark ready

[rotund zodiac]

oh

[vivid vessel]

zeross will you stfu or

do i have to block you

its seriously getting annoying lol

i get it you hate outlaw

[proven ocean]

ur mad cuz im replying same way u spammed me yesterdY

[tulip jewel]

butt clenching

[proven ocean]

ZEROSS OUTLAW DOES MORE

JUST A MATTER OF TIME TILL U SWAP

it was in ur twitch logs too

[vivid vessel]

what you mean when you came into MY chat ?

[craggy barn]

lol

[proven ocean]

You opened the conversation

Not me

Its ok tho

I forgive you

[rotund zodiac]

[fossil lintel]

Okay, going to start the popcorn earlier this time

[craggy barn]

theyre fighting again, wheres guy to take the heat

[mighty pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/entertainment-michael-jackson-wow-amazing-interesting-gif-14302319

[bright crane]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-tyson-now-kith-now-kiss-meme-gif-16285821

[rotund zodiac]

ah yes, feel like typical outlaw chat

[bright crane]

Zac and zeross

[vivid vessel]

this is how you opened the conversation

[proven ocean]

Ye dont show earlier msg’s

[craggy barn]

zac and zeross fighting
just need guy to take the heat
and solo to come in and save everyone

[proven ocean]

Very perfect context

[vivid vessel]

i mean there isnt earlier message

its just me saying we depleted cause tank died on last boss

then you said your tank can tank it on his 662 guardian druid

then you said that

[fossil lintel]

Even his tanks are built different

[vivid vessel]

ye bro

[proven ocean]

zeross zeross wanna do outlaw keys

zeross zeross

outlaw keys

triple outlaw

?

now

?

[blissful idol]

Zeross you need to touch some grass ngl

[vivid vessel]

bro

[proven ocean]

?

[craggy barn]

how is EU lfg for 15s

[vivid vessel]

you litteraly

[craggy barn]

is it as dead as NA

[vivid vessel]

messaged me first

I CANT MAN

[proven ocean]

what do u want

wait zac

[vivid vessel]

THIS GUY IS TOO FUNNY

[proven ocean]

baddream

u wanna fight

[vivid vessel]

[proven ocean]

or

?

[blissful idol]

stop spamming

[vivid vessel]

idk if you are trolling on purpose bro

[blissful idol]

Fight in dms

[proven ocean]

?

[blissful idol]

lol

[proven ocean]

u dont even play outlaw

what

no one asked cuh

[vivid vessel]

ok hm

[proven ocean]

?

[vivid vessel]

its a new week

what upgrades

[proven ocean]

@blissful idol sry i reply to 3.6k rio and above only

[vivid vessel]

wait zeross

[proven ocean]

limit reached for msging zeross

[vivid vessel]

you seen this ross right

[proven ocean]

must be 3.6k or above

seen what

[vivid vessel]

just say you saw it then we can go next its just funny

[proven ocean]

sry images from bnet dont load on discord

[vivid vessel]

I see

ye make sense

ok time to sim now

[proven ocean]

time to sin??

u said u only outlaw

what

[vivid vessel]

sim ** *

[proven ocean]

wanna sin keys later

or

[vivid vessel]

sorry i dont do low keys zeross

[proven ocean]

sin ** *

[proven ocean]

????????????????

[fossil lintel]

Honestly the spec name is ass not sin

[proven ocean]

arent u a fresh 3.5k bozo

ur still fighting for the title or

[vivid vessel]

ross

[fallen knot]

i sense some tension

might be competitive

[proven ocean]

what zac

[vivid vessel]

im only 70 io under you btw

[fallen knot]

might be sexual

[cold jewel]

i hate it when mom and mom's gf fight

[vivid vessel]

you noob

[fallen knot]

who knows

[fossil lintel]

Definitely sexual

[proven ocean]

70 io is alot

[vivid vessel]

thats like 3 keys no cap

[timber knoll]

tbh i think sin is worse than law in keys i know its controversial

[proven ocean]

u dont even have 18 resilient when i had it 2 weeks ago

[vivid vessel]

fr

stuck since then tho

[proven ocean]

no flame ofc

[vivid vessel]

[leaden folio]

2 week ago outlaw wasnt fix

[candid locust]

some main char syndromes here

[vivid vessel]

wait let me sim ross

[fallen knot]

omg just kiss already

[vivid vessel]

we fight after

[leaden folio]

its your end zeross

zac is coming

pray

[proven ocean]

what sim

[proven ocean]

?

ur new here

[vivid vessel]

waht to do this week

[proven ocean]

or what

wait zac

[vivid vessel]

maybe craft something

but what

[proven ocean]

what is epic talking about

[vivid vessel]

i think crafting ring is cringe

[candid locust]

nope

[fallen knot]

carry me 8/8 for free

[proven ocean]

me and zac are having a conversation

any problems cuh?

[bright crane]

Don’t think that’s true; sin still wins in cutting edge keys. But for 99% of players both slap

[vivid vessel]

too much haste its throwing all my vers out of the window

BRO

[surreal flower]

20m

[proven ocean]

wdym

[surreal flower]

[vivid vessel]

WHO DO I NEED TO SUCK OFF TO SIM FLASKS @gaunt phoenix

[fallen knot]

in 20minutes i eat i cant sorry

[candid locust]

u are funny

[leaden folio]

O_O

[fallen knot]

open 10 tabs

[leaden folio]

personnaly i dont have the m+ chest mythic on vault

[vivid vessel]

i swear to god

[fallen knot]

sim them all one by one

[leaden folio]

so i usually sim with haste flask

[vivid vessel]

cant be outlaw only that needs to sim flask

[timber knoll]

they cant beat me

[fallen knot]

then

[vivid vessel]

for the love of god

[fallen knot]

open another 20

[vivid vessel]

LET ME SIM FLASKS

[leaden folio]

im haste flask enjoyer

[fallen knot]

for combinations for weapon consumables

probably like 30 more

but 20 should do just fine

[proven ocean]

?

[vivid vessel]

top gear

[leaden folio]

we just need to add option to sim 2

[vivid vessel]

nice try tho

[proven ocean]

zac

[vivid vessel]

i wanna top gear flasks

[proven ocean]

why does lilrayan have big ego

?

does he

or

i heardd stories

[gaunt phoenix]

[fallen knot]

should call ti top flasks

no

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel ?

[fallen knot]

top consumables

[leaden folio]

y i now

[fallen knot]

pitch it to raidbots bosses

[leaden folio]

telling its possible to chose, just you want to add

[vivid vessel]

I did

[leaden folio]

so we can sim both flask in same simc

[vivid vessel]

about 4 times

[proven ocean]

@leaden folio

wrong @proven ocean

fuck

@vivid vessel

[fallen knot]

did you call it top consumables though?

[proven ocean]

zac

[hollow portal]

xdddd

[past falcon]

a real man of the people

[proven ocean]

guys

[fallen knot]

today i discovered

[proven ocean]

to whoever is saying zac isnt asking me to play outlaw

[fallen knot]

fucking

[proven ocean]

hes

asking

me

10 times

in 1 day

thats

[fallen knot]

removing gems and enchants

[proven ocean]

only 1 day

only 1

[fallen knot]

i've been deleting the string from simc

until today

kill me

[leaden folio]

zeross

[vivid vessel]

where does it says your name

[leaden folio]

what i see is

[fallen knot]

but also not cause i'm happy it exists

[leaden folio]

3 outlaw is banger

[vivid vessel]

who do you think you are

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel wdym

?

[vivid vessel]

lil buddy

[leaden folio]

you know it

[proven ocean]

thats

[leaden folio]

and you dont do it

[vivid vessel]

ok blocked

[proven ocean]

my nam

eare u

blindd

[fallen knot]

yesi was here for this

[proven ocean]

?

[vivid vessel]

goood message tho right?

was a banger

[past falcon]

i want to triple outlaw

[fallen knot]

top 1000 messages of this channel for sure

[fossil lintel]

I did triple outlaw yesterday

[proven ocean]

zac

gear check

676

?

[fossil lintel]

Was pretty fun

[proven ocean]

gear check

zac

?

i bet ur ilvl is like mine 4 weeks ago

?

[vivid vessel]

spent your gilded yet ross or

from this week

[proven ocean]

no

[vivid vessel]

im 2 ilvl under then

but tbf im full bis

[proven ocean]

i have nothing to upgrade

so

[fallen knot]

delete char it's over

[proven ocean]

im just waiting

for nextweek

[proven ocean]

thats all

[vivid vessel]

its just neck and ring

but thats 0 upgrade for outlaw

[proven ocean]

i cant replace my ring

cuz

bis forever

[fallen knot]

zac you should reroll nelf

[vivid vessel]

nah

[fallen knot]

you have the ring of infinite frontflips

it's bis

[proven ocean]

zac

[past falcon]

infinite frontflips while grappling even

[fallen knot]

i have it on dk

i'm addicted

[craggy barn]

make it vulpera for mitch

do it for mitch

[fossil lintel]

Does the ring also work with vulpera?

[vivid vessel]

?

wtf does vulpera do

[fossil lintel]

They do a front flip when you jump

[fallen knot]

what the fuck

is

this

[fossil lintel]

And sexually excite some people

[fallen knot]

for a 13 people are asking for gold

just like

go boost in a community or something

[vivid vessel]

no keys in lfg today

i guess its raid day

[stray star]

@vivid vessel go live sir

[runic bough]

Zac form a triple outlaw EU key

[vivid vessel]

for what

[novel socket]

resilient keys meta

[fossil lintel]

With ross

[stray star]

@zac queue simulator

[fossil lintel]

Why did you post a pic of your crack stones?

[reef forge]

what are those mask things?

[fossil lintel]

They let you turn into another race

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix this is how much dps i gain gaining like 20 ilvl on ring

idk

shit is crazy no ?

this is a hunter 675 ilvl

why tf are we still entairtaining the idea that scaling doesnt exist

[fallen knot]

you pushers msut be fucking bored yes

[craggy barn]

lol

[vivid vessel]

[fallen knot]

it said zac can you carry me

[grim spear]

bad luck

[fallen knot]

not saying i would have done it

but

[vivid vessel]

bro i had the same shit happen

[fallen knot]

i would probably have gone to each person in the raid

[vivid vessel]

i was so mad

[fallen knot]

and headbutt them

into their chest

[vivid vessel]

@grim spear

look at this one

thoughts ?

[grim spear]

.

[vivid vessel]

raiding is so cringe no cap !

[grim spear]

i think we should not be running with 4 healers.

[vivid vessel]

hm

idk

i was stopping dps last week

[craggy barn]

if only cudgel worked on bosses

[vivid vessel]

if thats what you mean

[craggy barn]

imagine the deepz on stix

[vivid vessel]

3 healers tho

[fossil lintel]

Does it now work on bosses?

[vivid vessel]

it does

or well on adds

[craggy barn]

u cant vanish reset it

[vivid vessel]

oh you meant for p3 damage

[grim spear]

4 healers, feels really hard.
this boss just doesn't seem like it should be this difficult

[fallen knot]

bandit?

[grim spear]

yep

[vivid vessel]

el bandito

[fallen knot]

didnt they nerf it this week

[keen belfry]

how not stunned

[vivid vessel]

i pressed cloak the first one

but

it was for the rest of the fight

that i sent you that

look at how that tank is tanking it

thats how you should ask your tnaks to do it

[grim spear]

for cn servers it's tomorrow

[fallen knot]

my bad then

[grim spear]

[fallen knot]

i'm stunned

i even looked at your log

how much of a pain will sprocket be

[grim spear]

it just feels awful

[fallen knot]

if stix took me 110pulls

[grim spear]

we didn't kill it today.

[fallen knot]

and if i want to be ethical good player and play elemental and not enha/sneak the 670uh dk alt in

[sterile summit]

Zac not going live today

[hidden bay]

When is .7 expected to drop?

[vivid vessel]

there is no keys today

if i find something to do maybe

[hidden bay]

Bro wats wf keys in lfg

[fossil lintel]

Stream your irl fight with zeross

[hidden bay]

[vivid vessel]

when you type 19 you are supposed to find 18s aswell

i still need 2 18s

but idk thats not wf keys lol

[sterile summit]

i see people raiding

[vivid vessel]

people doing 20s

[hidden bay]

22s next week

With the boost

Op

Ok mb not its only 6% dps gain

[vivid vessel]

that much even

like i cant believe

idk

this is crazy

[sterile summit]

KEKW do it for fun xD

[vivid vessel]

like wtf do i do

im full gear

but

im 674

[hidden bay]

Get more haste elsewhere

Sorry

Vers

So the vers from neck is less value

[vivid vessel]

i cant tho

[hidden bay]

Surely you can

Do u have the ring

Oab

[hidden bay]

Vers is that fucking good huh

Maybe with +6

[vivid vessel]

yea ..

idk man

[sterile summit]

[vivid vessel]

i think i wanna farm the trinket from delves

[hidden bay]

Well def with +6 cuz your neck is capped at 658

[vivid vessel]

in hc level

so its not capped at 658

kekw

[fossil lintel]

Which trinket from delves?

[hidden bay]

Which 1?

[vivid vessel]

neck

[hidden bay]

Trinket

[vivid vessel]

thats delves

this is pvp

this is crafted

[hidden bay]

Oh shit

[fallen knot]

isnt it like

[vivid vessel]

see the vers diff xd

[fallen knot]

1x capped per week

the hero from delves

[hidden bay]

Can u get more rating?

To upgradč

[vivid vessel]

on what

[hidden bay]

Pvp

[fossil lintel]

You have 3 chances on the vault as well

[west dirge]

question (yes i did sims) but is it worth going for this ring as outlaw? im currently rerolling from sub/assa and idk if its ok ish or nah (sims telling me yes rn but i still hjave myth shoulders missing and signet might be good for assa if i fail as outlaw) and from next week we can buu stuff from m+ aswell so i might get better ring with more haste/vers stats? whats your OPINION on that, or am i just overthining?

[vivid vessel]

i think it only upgrade in pvp unfortunatly

[vivid vessel]

ye

[hidden bay]

Nice tho

[vivid vessel]

bis ring basically

[hidden bay]

Dont have to pvp

[vivid vessel]

not reading all these words tho

but ring bis good ye

[hidden bay]

Zoomer

[vivid vessel]

ye cba

[west dirge]

ok i take

[fossil lintel]

Ring with mast is bis?

[vivid vessel]

its like 5k vers bro

how do i get to the circle isle

with an alt

he doesnt have anything on the ship

[thorny zinc]

boat

[latent oak]

talk to dude in portal room

[vivid vessel]

to skip campaing?

[latent oak]

u gotta start quest here i think

[vivid vessel]

hm

ah ye

ty

[lapis forge]

if you have 2 or less CP and you're about to engage from stealth, do you want to GS into Ambush?

or do you still prioritize BtE?

[gaunt phoenix]

you need to build cp, so yes GS+Ambush

[lapis forge]

Okay, thank ye

still trying to wrap my head around all the priorities and what not

up until now, I've been healing almost exclusively

which is a different kind of thought process altogether

[craggy barn]

what are u doing zac

[vivid vessel]

ww

[still matrix]

that pvp neck is kinda stonks

Why have you gone from outlaw

to WW

[vivid vessel]

solo did you see

[still matrix]

ahaha you like to make life hard for yoself

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix

[ebon reef]

[vivid vessel]

kinda crazy or

[gaunt phoenix]

huge

[vivid vessel]

like neck is neutral

and ring is 0.4%

idk

our stats are mega sucky

[gaunt phoenix]

just outlaw things

[vivid vessel]

ye

im glad blizzard fixed outlaw stats scaling

with the haste thing

[red zinc]

Hows it that little

[mellow thicket]

What fix with haste scaling?

[vivid vessel]

out;aw

vers

only stat

[fallen knot]

isnt chest omega bedge stats

[vivid vessel]

that does sometyhing

and it doesnt actually do somethign

for reference this is a hunter 675 ilvl

all of our stats are under agility

[gaunt phoenix]

i mean scaling is real

over the course of a tier

has some impact

[red zinc]

I mean in all fairness it being under isnt that crazy

[vapid blaze]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1xGMAMMfeCb26h2mWE5k9R

[red zinc]

But its very far under

[mellow thicket]

So essentially Ilvl outside of rings and neck, are king? I had assumed the haste requirements were a must to a certain threshold?

[vapid blaze]

this time i fixed the embelishments
with only 3% loss with double nightfall weapon vs crafted
its for sure worth it on aoe or

[past falcon]

is there a way to see the party members in a lfg group other than the party leader

[fallen knot]

sim dslice

i guess

for dungeons

[past falcon]

i wanna see what outlaw just got invited over me

[vapid blaze]

nah but on dsclice its an issue that for st you wouldnt wear them

[red zinc]

Put radiant authority on the dagger