outlaw

[runic bough]

wont be able to get more vers

unless i go pvp neck instead of craft

thats also stacking alchemist stone

[fallen knot]

ok but i'm choosing between elemental and enha, and, as of now, ele sims 2.6m, enha sims 2.53m with pi and 2.45 without pi, which i'm almost certain i'm not getting

i would also love to play my uhdk there to just ignore pretty much every mechanic, but i'm not sure i can convince my RL to bring it

[north ember]

what a slap in the face, rogue gets vers mastery roullette HC, smashing, log priest, get vers haste mythic xd

[empty elbow]

HUNNID PARSE ON THE 16

[digital linden]

Do we pop vanish on fatebound builds even if ruthless precision will drop before the end of vanish? and if we dont have ruthless precision but we have to pop vanish for whatever reason (keeping adr or capping vanish) do we use bte in subterfuge or is it still dispatch prio?

[digital linden]

actually giga

top damage on the brew

[empty elbow]

yeah a bit scuffed comp

two prio classes

[digital linden]

no warr buff even bro

im surprised u even got that kind of dps

[empty elbow]

it's straight up faith in the resets ahahah

[digital linden]

hahahahhahaha real shit

[empty elbow]

my affirmations before every key

Im da out law schwing schwing, give me BTE resets so my target capped class can rock n roll

[stoic dragon]

u sure? ive seen pretty much everyone using it on cd unless dmg amp or other trinket is useable

[brisk spear]

I just had some caster guildies who where complaining, but maybe ele is not so bad with movement

[vivid vessel]

ye thats not how you use the trinket lol

You just use it in cd while not fucking your other on use

[stoic dragon]

and hold on vexie for amp

[vivid vessel]

And keep it for amp phases if possible

[stoic dragon]

right?

[vivid vessel]

And don't send it insta on amp phases that's bad

You send it if you are at 30

[fallen knot]

has a lot of instant casts, the thing is that even my dk sims more than enh on full st

[vivid vessel]

or att at the last possible moment

[runic bough]

guys im mythic ready now
2 weeks and 3rd vault day old.

[stoic dragon]

not as soon as you hit 30?

[vivid vessel]

Keeping in mind it has a 1/2s "cast time"

[vivid vessel]

Ye if you are at 30

But otherwise you wait as much as possible

To get more stacks

[stoic dragon]

ah thats what you meant

yea then i was thinking correctly

[fallen knot]

also has higher ilvl than my shaman and it is 2weeks old

[brisk meadow]

Im at 30 always since february do i full send?

[stoic dragon]

[brisk meadow]

[vivid vessel]

old ass

[brisk meadow]

I always told myself i will play shooter until im getting old and then Swap to mmo's they're more agefriendly

Now Look where we are

Outlaw channel age shaming

[digital linden]

bump

[steel charm]

how can you enable the offensives in youre char windows?

[empty elbow]

Im turning 32 in august D:

[long barn]

That’s about where I am. When will vers basically not be worth stacking due to diminishing returns

[long barn]

38 and I’m not giving up. Still blasting

[fallen knot]

i am in complete shambles

shaman that i play since day 1 is lower ilvl than shit dk that i've been playing for 2 weeks

[runic bough]

OUTLAWS

WE ARE SUPERIOR

we are using double the apm of other classes

but same damages hahahaha

[urban bramble]

Who has highest apm rn

It’s like us or ret

[obtuse hollow]

definitely not ret

[urban bramble]

Ret have high as fuck APM rn wouldn't say definitely not them

[leaden folio]

smashing divine storm isnt apm

[runic bough]

Someone look up a log from Zac

[urban bramble]

I just see the casts in logs and go off that i have no idea how the pink boys play

[obtuse hollow]

cpm and apm are different

[unreal drum]

wouldnt trust it its google ai

[obtuse hollow]

half the cpm of rets are passive

the highest apm specs will likely be specs that require lots of off GCD casts like fire

and if u count the mandatory strafing / jumping as apm its even higher

[loud locust]

What do I take guys

All mythic+ vault is hero, raid is lfr

so vet

[nova basin]

Fury warrior used to give me RSI

But that was a few expansions ago

[vivid vessel]

oultaw is the highest apm by a fair amount

we have sims that are accurate for that

logs arent

[mighty pivot]

isn't prot pala the only one higher

[vivid vessel]

maybe but tanks are fake

[mighty pivot]

[raven socket]

Can anyon confirm if the weapon from the nightfall event is better than capo molten knuckle ? both at 658 ilvl

[nova basin]

Yes in offhand

[cedar kernel]

[raven socket]

Thanks

[nova basin]

Only on trash, but as they are same ilevel probably only minimal DPS loss on boss fights

[glass silo]

As outlaw if you have really bad rolls and ur in vanish window do u reroll? And do u only bte in subterfuge or send coup as well?

[mighty pivot]

read the rotation parts of #outlaw-faq it covers both topics

[sullen surge]

can you get hero version of the nightfall weapon?

[mighty pivot]

no

and the extra upgrade levels that we get next week are only for hero/myth track so it will fall a bit behind

[sullen surge]

yeah was wondering if it would beat both crafted weapons 675

but it doesnt seem like it does

[mighty pivot]

it still should in aoe, but I don't think it's implemented in the sim yet

[sullen surge]

im simming it right now just to make sure

[kind otter]

Speaking of the nightfall curseblade cudgel - anyone know why my /equipslot 17 macro is not working and equipping it to my main hand. I have 2 crowd favorites at myth track that i want to swap to for single target

[novel socket]

prot warrior used to be the highest one but was reworked in s2 to be way lower

so now outlaw is the highest one

[sullen surge]

makes sense

guessing it will fall off once we upgrade with the extra 6ilvl?

[gentle juniper]

dunno if 6 extra ilvl on an offhand will beat the dmg

[gaunt phoenix]

on trash it should beat 684 weapons

[timber knoll]

It sounds like they’re gonna rework outlaw soon though

[tawny nymph]

Is Nightfall Curseblade's Cudgel now correctly implemented in the sims?

[sullen surge]

also im seeing more people going KIR build instead in higher keys, is it better now?

[urban bramble]

Ohhh so cpm is literally everything not inputs where as APM is just pure key slamming

Ty ty

[sullen surge]

in the faq i see its better in aoe but less ST so im guessing in higher keys bc they pull bigger the go KIR?

[mighty pivot]

it's also down to preference since they play a bit differently

[gaunt phoenix]

Its preference really

[long barn]

Anyone have the WA for the weapon swap

[gentle juniper]

i personally do more ST and aoe with kir for some reason, maybe i just suck at HO

[gaunt phoenix]

Nah

[tawny nymph]

sadge

[rotund zodiac]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[upbeat tundra]

gg friends ily its been real

[vivid vessel]

You gone ?

[tender wedge]

back to BM hunter?

[long barn]

Hows this supposed to work
https://wago.io/n9qD8vigd

Do i need to stil macro the weapon swap?

[vivid vessel]

Just shows which weapon you have equipped in off hand whenever you leave combat

Didn't bother making more

[brisk meadow]

What Kind of cryptic message Was that

[gentle juniper]

Whats the condition to be able to swap offhands btw? sometimes i forget to swap it before a bossfight and i can only swap it mid killingspree seemingly

[brisk meadow]

Only condition is being out of fight probably

[gentle juniper]

so how come i can swap it mid killing spree in fight

[gaunt phoenix]

you should be able to swap in combat it just costs a gcd

[gentle juniper]

in that case im sticking to mid killing spree swap, since im locked in there anyways, assuming its a chain into boss

thanks

[brisk meadow]

Didnt know that

[vivid vessel]

You can do that?

[sour vault]

what did I miss, why are we swapping?

[vivid vessel]

Does that fuck with ks

Like some hits don't hit or something

[gentle juniper]

i didnt really think about that, i just swap it there because i tend to forget swapping

didnt really notice my dps dropping or doing less dmg all of a sudden

[gentle juniper]

pinned weapon, i have a 678 offhand that im using for bosses and the nightfall one for trash

[kind otter]

REEEEEE how do I fix this macro? Nightfall off hand keeps switching to my main hand cause I have 2 Crowd Favorites?!?!

[gentle juniper]

also cant check rn, not at home and im pretty sure nobody logged the keys yesterday

[vivid vessel]

Ye I will check when I get home

It's interesting

Cause if it works thats kinda big tech I think

Losing a GCD is bad

I was vanishing> weapon swap when I was doing it mid combat

[long barn]

agree swapping in the KS would be ideal

[vivid vessel]

So at least I wouldn't lose ADR gcd

[muted breach]

was putting talents points on my rogue that im lvling atm when i noticed, is this just a lvling bug or an actuall bug ?

[vivid vessel]

Tooltip bug

It double duration I think

[gentle juniper]

i guess not knowing how weapon swaps work and just doin my own shit could be an actual good tech

[sour vault]

so you switch to cudgel in aoe situations? and switch back immediately?

[gentle juniper]

cudgel on trash, normal offhand on bosses

[sour vault]

why would you need to do it in KS then and not f.e just out of combat? xD

[gentle juniper]

i guess swapping to normal offhand for like theater minibosses could also make sense

[gentle juniper]

chain pulling into boss

[sour vault]

aha

good point

[gentle juniper]

it doesnt matter if you get a restealth and "afk" time anyways

i also tend to forget to swap before bossfights

and realize it mid fight

[sour vault]

I wouldnt realize it at all probably

[gentle juniper]

i thought i was smart keeping the crudge on theater first boss

until after the boss i realized it doesnt reset in bossfights

[fossil lintel]

I just got 4p last night and swapped to the supercharged build from vigor, but I feel like I get constantly energy starved. I'm HO with 12% haste currently.
Is that normal? Do I just need more haste?

[gaunt phoenix]

guess so

oops i was 20 minutes behind

12% might be on the low end if you sim

[red zinc]

Always find it intriguing that HO is said to be the easier build yet I hear way more complaints about it

Is it just the share of people playing ho being way higher?

[fossil lintel]

I'll do a gem / enchant and see if sim screams more haste at me

HO sees a lot more play

so more complaints

[gaunt phoenix]

and that's not a complaint

[fossil lintel]

Yeah

just a gearing issue

I would be double fucked at 12% haste trying KIR lol

[gaunt phoenix]

I have like 14.95% and it seems to be <= vers for me

like vers flask and haste flask are almost the same

prob go haste flask to help rng

One day flasks will be in top gear combinations

[red zinc]

Solo how do you treat a 6 buff kir in terms of pressing rtb

Like say you got 5buff rtb and then a cto proc, would you wait till the extended cto proc is almost gone to press rtb again?

[fossil lintel]

Yeah, I noticed I go very starved during vanishes when I'm spamming ambush

Only on shit rtb buffs as well

[vivid vessel]

Is it a natty rtb or

Natty 5 buff I mean

Ah you said that already

Well you wanna roll above 39s

Ideally as close to 39s as possible so that you dont lower your buffs

I tend to roll slightly earlier if I can roll into vanish

Cause SC vanish are our most valuable SC and I think that's good anyway

But otherwise you just roll right before 39

[fossil lintel]

yo zac, how much haste do you have?

[vivid vessel]

15+ haste flaks

[red zinc]

(kir)

[vivid vessel]

I play kir

[fossil lintel]

Yeah i know

Just want to know what to shoot for to play kir confortably

[red zinc]

I just hate gearing rn with the haste factir

[sour vault]

the cudgel weap is from the new 'incursion' events? what tracks is it available in?

[red zinc]

To switch one item I need two items

maybe i just craft belt and try to get roulette wheel or smth

[vivid vessel]

It's not about energy tho

[red zinc]

even though belt craft is probably useless in a month

[vivid vessel]

It's about adr GCD reduction

[fossil lintel]

Yeah, it's also the gcd

[vivid vessel]

I think you might not know about that one cause it's new

But ye

It's mostly the gcd

[fossil lintel]

but KIR can get pretty starved as well if you roll shitty RTB so it likely helps

[vivid vessel]

Kir would probably run 0% haste if it could

Well it did

Before the GCD thing

[fossil lintel]

I remember, I played KIR in DF

[red zinc]

You gotta get unlucky and have no rtb to starve on energy

(If ar is up)

[fossil lintel]

But we also had the busted S3 set when I played it

[vivid vessel]

I mean this set is probably better

In term of rtb uptime

I think

[red zinc]

next seasons tier better be something crazy

[gaunt phoenix]

kir wants 19% as usual

[fossil lintel]

I've seen some back to back 5 buffs that was pretty fun yeah, but sometimes it takes a bit to get going with HO

[vivid vessel]

Idk I kinda wish rtb was redisgned to be higher base uptime

[mighty pivot]

it's normal for HO to sometimes not have energy during vanish windows though, that's why you sometimes PS if you cannot ambush. You get your opportunity back from ambush most of the time anyway

[vivid vessel]

Like you roll 2/3 instead of 1/2

Cause one before can be useless

2 buff you always have a buff that interact with resources

Unless it's gm bt

[red zinc]

rp gm moment

[vivid vessel]

2 buff you always have one good

[vivid vessel]

Ye sure

But at least that's our best buffs kekw

[red zinc]

rp gm gotta be the most annoying yet strong buff

[vivid vessel]

Ye

But that's why I think having a higher number is better tho

So you always have a feel good buff

[red zinc]

at least its not like in early df where you got a tworoll of GM energy and offed yourself

[vivid vessel]

With one buffers it's too easy to just chain buffs that do nothing

And you feel like you are doing nothing

[red zinc]

Idk how they make any other tier sets that interact with rtb though

gotta get creative

probably around that time again for another random ass pistol shot tier set

[vivid vessel]

Idk if we want a tier

[viscid forge]

@vivid vessel first recraft this week maybe main hand?

[vivid vessel]

I think it's time for it to be baseline lol

Like just +1 to rolls

[red zinc]

why is everyone asking for “first recraft” dont you get an infinite amount

just do them all

[vivid vessel]

And have loaded be +1 instead of replacing 2s

[proven ocean]

Hi im r1 rogue im crafting a staff and few cloth items maybe u should copy me too

[vivid vessel]

Ye idk

Why are you asking me that

Just craft all your items

[gaunt phoenix]

mainhand should be first

[tulip jewel]

rofl

[red zinc]

You can stockpile like 200 gilded

[fossil lintel]

+1 luck should give an extra roll of RTB

[vivid vessel]

If you aren't trolling rn you should be stockpiling crests so

[gaunt phoenix]

its ok you can ask me and i wont flame

[viscid forge]

Thx

[vivid vessel]

Who flamed

[proven ocean]

Stop being weird and rude zac wtf

Fuck you zac

[vivid vessel]

[fossil lintel]

wait, can you recraft to 6 ilvls higher this week or the next?

[vivid vessel]

I just asked why are you asking

It's a weird question isn't it ?

[red zinc]

zeross when are you revealing your intellect dagger strategem to the world

[tulip jewel]

[gaunt phoenix]

next week

[fossil lintel]

ty solo

[red zinc]

Poisons scale with intellect right

[proven ocean]

I have ascended, im going intellect gear instead

[gaunt phoenix]

for 30 more gilded crests

[red zinc]

I still dont get btw

[nova basin]

intellect will make you play smarter

[red zinc]

Does the item to recraft cost 90?

[gaunt phoenix]

no 30

[red zinc]

So you can just baseline craft that ilvl for 30?

[proven ocean]

30 what

[gaunt phoenix]

gilded

crests

[proven ocean]

30 cocks inside zac’s mouth? Wtf

[gaunt phoenix]

Wtf

[vivid vessel]

Wtf

[tulip jewel]

wtf

[proven ocean]

Isnt it 60

[red zinc]

I thought it only worked on items that were already 675

[gaunt phoenix]

i dont think so

[red zinc]

Hm

[proven ocean]

What since when 30 wdym

Its always 60

[red zinc]

Well then I aint crafting this week

[red zinc]

The upgrade next week

[vivid vessel]

It's 2 rank upgrade

[red zinc]

Not the craft now

[cedar kernel]

wtf

[proven ocean]

Ah next wedk

[proven ocean]

Week

AUG

[tulip jewel]

[proven ocean]

ALWAYS AUG

ZAC

ITS UR FAULT MAN

[red zinc]

but wait solo

[vivid vessel]

Surely it does lol

[proven ocean]

FUCK YOU ZAC

[fossil lintel]

that's not live

[vivid vessel]

It's an augmen

You recraft 675 itmes

[red zinc]

Does it go into a different slot on the craft

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

[red zinc]

Yeah ok

[gaunt phoenix]

they add a 4th slot

[red zinc]

So what was that wowhead article about not crafting now

[gaunt phoenix]

idk

[red zinc]

Are they telling you to save 2k on mats

[vivid vessel]

You think you are getting max illvl crafts for 3/ crests or what

[vivid vessel]

Ye?

[gaunt phoenix]

save gold ig

[vivid vessel]

It's litteraly the title Omegalul

[red zinc]

thats worth an article?

[vivid vessel]

Save on materials

[proven ocean]

Can i save you instead

[mighty pivot]

to save money I guess

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[proven ocean]

Zac zac

[gaunt phoenix]

:cuh:

[red zinc]

thats worth an article but killing spree hateposting is “cringe”

REAL

[tulip jewel]

it’ll get fixed next season dw

[gaunt phoenix]

The outlaw retrospective will have enough about ks

[inland acorn]

Anything is worth articles, if it generates enough traffic

[red zinc]

i kno

ks fix tomorrow

actually

[proven ocean]

[red zinc]

On zeross’ soul

[mighty pivot]

I mean, they have articles about 1h maintenance happening

[proven ocean]

Guys

[tulip jewel]

[proven ocean]

@proven summit was always right, outlaw has to be deleted and all outlaws can suck my balls

Zac comes first

[gaunt phoenix]

[proven ocean]

Wait sucking balls sounds wrong

Nvm

[red zinc]

we made u zeross

[proven ocean]

Actually it sounds right nvm

[red zinc]

[proven ocean]

What

Made me zeross

How

[vivid vessel]

We made u zeross

[proven ocean]

Actually if outlaw gets deleted now i wont be mad

[gaunt phoenix]

we have determined outlaw has not enough players to be worth sustaining

[red zinc]

outlaw gets deleted and assa gets 20% nerf what then

[mighty pivot]

outlaw gets deleted and KS becomes mandatory for assa

[red zinc]

real

[fossil lintel]

You can work order cross faction right?

[red zinc]

Opensource outlaw

[proven ocean]

All specs in the game now have killingspree and its a 10% dps gain

[tulip jewel]

this channel is like half a room of people

[gaunt phoenix]

not sure

[red zinc]

I got flamed for dying by some guy

Told him that if he had to play KS

He’d die 5 times

[vivid vessel]

I depleted a 18 top on second boss to ks

No one cared

Did the same to a 17 flood

No one cared either

[red zinc]

See zac

In 12s, even if I do 2m overall more than the next guy

[vivid vessel]

Actually I depleted 2 flood 17 to ks

[tulip jewel]

keys are serious business man, you die once ur getting blacklisted

[red zinc]

They will still flame me if I do one thing wrong

[gaunt phoenix]

trolling

[vivid vessel]

Idk in high keys people are always chill

[proven ocean]

Ur healer friend isnt

[red zinc]

had some guy call me a useless bum for leaving after the tank died to falling off the platform on last boss floodgate

[vivid vessel]

https://www.twitch.tv/zac__________________/clip/WildEasyNightingaleDansGame-YNbAdmCg7xWQmU1f

[gaunt phoenix]

imagine just liking to play the game for the game

[proven ocean]

Most cringe healer

[tulip jewel]

ye people have respect that we’re playing the most cancer spec ig

[proven ocean]

I ever spoke to

[vivid vessel]

Which one

[proven ocean]

In my life

Wont mention names

[mighty pivot]

the only people who care are the devs watching each week's highlight reel of people dying to KS

[inland acorn]

you can fall off 🤣 ?

[vivid vessel]

I mean for most people you are pretty cringe yourself zeross so

[red zinc]

yes

he was a dh too

[gaunt phoenix]

nice

[vivid vessel]

But who are you talking about

[red zinc]

Unbelievable lowkey

[proven ocean]

I dont think i am in wow at all idk what ur on about

[vivid vessel]

Trust me

[proven ocean]

Ur just trying to ragebait rn or something

[vivid vessel]

Nope I'm not

[red zinc]

i mean hes not wrong

We love u though

[proven ocean]

I only discuss key things in m+ idk why ur being cringe rn

[vivid vessel]

Most people I have talked with don't like you cause you have a huge ego, idm tho it comes with the personage I think it's fine

[proven ocean]

Ego? What

When did i have ego in m+

[vivid vessel]

Ok well

Now idk if you are trolling or not lol

[proven ocean]

Because im completely clueless on what ur trying to point out rn

[red zinc]

no ego type shit

[proven ocean]

Is it because me and my healer are the ones who choose who we play with or what

[gaunt phoenix]

zero is a humble king

[proven ocean]

Cuz im confused

[vivid vessel]

Nope

It's ok

[proven ocean]

On what u mean by ego

[vivid vessel]

Do you really need my to explain it to you or what

I think it's pretty obvious

[proven ocean]

Ok

[vivid vessel]

You might be the most ego guy I have ever met bro

Which like

It's fine

[proven ocean]

Not like i ever played with you this entire expansion

[vivid vessel]

It's not like you were toxic or whatever there is worse

I never talked about playing idk what you mean

[proven ocean]

Ur saying in wow

[vivid vessel]

Ye in the wow sphere

[proven ocean]

I literally never type weird shit there

[vivid vessel]

People see you in streams and shit

[proven ocean]

I only troll around here

[vivid vessel]

I think you don't realize that

[proven ocean]

?

What

Because i stream high keys = ego

Or what

[long barn]

@gaunt phoenix - Is this weapon from nightfall good for both HO and KIR?

[gaunt phoenix]

yer

[red zinc]

yer

[gaunt phoenix]

yerp

[proven summit]

@proven ocean the hell u ping me for...

[inland acorn]

yer

[proven ocean]

OUTLAW DELETED AGREE OR NO

[proven summit]

rework the entire spec yeah

agreege

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel

Im with kush on that one cuh

[proven summit]

i mean outlaw has its ups and downs...

but its just fundamentally bricked

[proven ocean]

Dude

[red zinc]

makes me fundamentally bricked up

more like

[proven ocean]

Zac is convincing me to play outlaw

24/7

When it literally does less dmg

Hes showing me how he’s gapping random pugs like what

[sour vault]

I feel like my dps has increased a bit since two weeks ago, so there might have been some changes that make HO at least a bit more forgiving than it already was

[vivid vessel]

No, you are H24 in streamers chat is what I meant

And some people see what you type you know

[red zinc]

See bug fixes in pins

[fossil lintel]

I think the only issue with outlaw is how much you get punished for downtime

[inland acorn]

Bug fixes to blade flurry

[gaunt phoenix]

ya we gained like 15% dps in keys from bugfixes

[frail veldt]

Is zeross trying to say he doesn't ego?

[vivid vessel]

Ye

[frail veldt]

That's wild

[proven ocean]

Hes saying in game chat

[vivid vessel]

You haven't told me which healer zeross tho

Idk about game chat I'm not in your game buddy

[proven ocean]

I never type weird things in wow

Twitch chat is different

Idk what ur on about

Twitch chat is always trolling

[vivid vessel]

Sure

[proven ocean]

Maybe ur new to twitch

[red zinc]

Nobody is saying in game chat tbf

[proven ocean]

We literally talked about wow

[red zinc]

just that they know you as someone with ego

And that transfers to wow

[vivid vessel]

I don't really need to talk about that honestly zeross lol, I will never convince you it's fine

[jolly geyser]

I mean outlaw is abit wonky,nothing wrong there

[fossil lintel]

#outlaw message
👀

[vivid vessel]

You didn't tell me which healer and why tho

[proven ocean]

Well

[vivid vessel]

And you said friend

[proven ocean]

The whole thing he typed is cringe i think ur playing with him everyday anyway

[vivid vessel]

I have no healer friend

Maybe razhag would be the only one

Idk any other healer

Dailo

But he rerolled dps

[proven ocean]

He fucked up our floodgates 18 because he saved his healing cds for last 2 mobd in fg which dont matter at all

[blissful idol]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[proven ocean]

And blamed it on casts going through

[frail veldt]

LOOOOOOL

[proven ocean]

And then i told him u kinda missed a healing cd in whispers too to not make it seem hes bad

[red zinc]

coughing baby vs coughing baby

[proven ocean]

And then he got triggered or something and typed weird shit all over

[red zinc]

[vivid vessel]

Ok

Still don't know which healer you are talking about

Doesn't matter tho

You depleted a key with the guy

Holy

prolly egoed him tho

[blissful idol]

@gaunt phoenix Any good delve trinkets worth getting ?

[red zinc]

I depleted a key with zac and then he said some weird things about me being a bad human being

Never talking to him again

[proven ocean]

Zac has ego its fine

[blissful idol]

Cause he spoke the truth or cause he was rude ?

[proven ocean]

He streams keys right

Big ego

[red zinc]

zac also has ego

[vivid vessel]

I think I have a big ego

[red zinc]

or at least

[proven ocean]

Shouldn’t troll in twitch chat guys its big ego

[vivid vessel]

Different type of ego tho

[proven ocean]

[tranquil hemlock]

tf is happening

[red zinc]

idk if ego is the right word

[gaunt phoenix]

[vivid vessel]

I just think I'm the best

You yap about being the best

[tranquil hemlock]

👀

[vivid vessel]

We are not the same

[proven ocean]

[vivid vessel]

Yep

[proven ocean]

Most egoistic thing ive read all my life

[red zinc]

You just think you’re always right about everything

[blissful idol]

Legend Ty

[vivid vessel]

me or zeross lol

[red zinc]

both

[tranquil hemlock]

based

[proven ocean]

U know that ur the most egoistic outlaw player in the game right

[red zinc]

makes arguing pretty funny though

[gaunt phoenix]

Ok i dont wanna read you both spat for 30 min

[mighty pivot]

[vivid vessel]

ye i tought so aswell

[red zinc]

wheres the ryu ad when you need it

[vivid vessel]

different type of ego tho

[red zinc]

one time we need ryu and he isnt here

[proven ocean]

Wont tell u what ur healer said

[red zinc]

both yall mad cute

[vivid vessel]

tim we have different ego right

[red zinc]

Go back to timing keys

[tranquil hemlock]

tf is happening lmao

[proven ocean]

Will just never play with him again

[tranquil hemlock]

crashing out on rogue discord goes hard

[inland acorn]

Good, day was boring so far

[proven ocean]

Guys

Like

If u have a better thing to talk about

Feel free

But like

[tranquil hemlock]

idk zac ur beeing weird imo

[proven ocean]

Everyone’s quite as cow

[tranquil hemlock]

but rework ks amirite

[vivid vessel]

fr

[tranquil hemlock]

who cares about ego

[mighty pivot]

we need ryukage to give his take

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel cat guy even agrees ur beeing weird

[fossil lintel]

Wait, don't end the discussion yet my popcorn is almost done

[vivid vessel]

he is a bot its ok

[tranquil hemlock]

i know ppl with the biggest ego on wow and neither of u are imo

[vivid vessel]

bro never met ross

let me introduce you

[tranquil hemlock]

lilrayan comes to mind lul

[proven ocean]

Bro never met zac

[vivid vessel]

yo i know this guy

[proven ocean]

[tranquil hemlock]

i know u do

[vivid vessel]

thats funny actually

[proven ocean]

Ur tank zac

[tranquil hemlock]

thats why i mentionned him

[vivid vessel]

haha

[proven ocean]

Ur healer is more cringe

[tranquil hemlock]

biggest ego on the planet that guy xd

[proven ocean]

Ur healer literally crashed out

[tranquil hemlock]

he good tho

[vivid vessel]

iwdk who you are talking about

[red zinc]

Man so many of us here are fuckin bums why are we trying to make a tier list of our value as human beings

like

were playing wow

Just give up

[tranquil hemlock]

i'm obviously better though so yea

[red zinc]

[proven ocean]

TOMELVIS TOLD ME U SHOULD REROLL TO OUTLAW CUZ SIN NOT VIABLE AND SHIT BLABLABALABLA wont mention everything else cuz i’ll get banned here if i do

[tranquil hemlock]

now ur weird zeross

[vivid vessel]

what

[proven ocean]

Thats literally what the healer said

[vivid vessel]

What are you saying

[proven ocean]

[red zinc]

Cat guy is the neutral jury in this debate

[proven ocean]

Shaman healer

[red zinc]

Truly a great measurement stick of the vibe

[proven ocean]

But ur honor

[vivid vessel]

why would i ever say sin is not viable

and why would i ever talk about you

[proven ocean]

Idk maybe he was ragebaiting or someshit just to forget the fact he depleted the key

Like

We deplete keys all the time

Not that its wrong

[vivid vessel]

not me

[proven ocean]

I just take things to whispers if someone i dont know makes a big mistake that he wont fix

Cuz he literally replied, i do the same healing cds all the time

Like

He wont even fix it

[tranquil hemlock]

fix ks tho

[proven ocean]

Cat guy

Do u agree zac is weird

Or

He has a foot fetish too i heard

[tranquil hemlock]

u guys are weird lmao

[proven ocean]

What wdym guys

Outlaws

Come atk cat guy

Hes blaming everyone

[tranquil hemlock]

no u

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel confirm??

[vivid vessel]

nah idk

never understood the foot thing

and i have a lot of fetishs that might be weird

just not feets

[tranquil hemlock]

please elaborate

[vivid vessel]

no

[tranquil hemlock]

i'm weird now wtf did you guys do to me

[red zinc]

Contact weirdness

[tulip jewel]

[tranquil hemlock]

[tulip jewel]

gambling fetish

[proven ocean]

Examples or never happened

[red zinc]

pain fetish (ks enjoyer)

[proven ocean]

[tulip jewel]

it’s more the anticipation of pain

at any moment could get smacked

[red zinc]

i need to drop haste vers ring from bandit tonight

or else

[tulip jewel]

not even verse haste

[red zinc]

Thats what i mean

Sorry

[tulip jewel]

[red zinc]

still have double champion ring

And its so piss

[gaunt phoenix]

i need 570 crests next week

[red zinc]

ill have like

[tulip jewel]

you could manage that

[red zinc]

240 prepared?

[proven ocean]

I need you next week

[red zinc]

so only need to do like 18 keys

[glass mortar]

i have so many saved up to transfer

[vivid vessel]

that many >

tf

[red zinc]

Could be worse

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel when will u announce ur fetish??

[glass mortar]

the rate isnt great but at least itll save some time

[proven ocean]

We need to know zac

[tulip jewel]

oh only next week, rough

[tranquil hemlock]

fetish reveal when

[proven ocean]

!!!

[vivid vessel]

i will not

[tranquil hemlock]

but please

[tulip jewel]

lmfao

[proven ocean]

Ok but

Reveal ur fetish to me

[tulip jewel]

fetish reveal when?

[red zinc]

Yeah wait how does he need that many

[proven ocean]

My ego cant handle u not spreading ur fetish zac

[tranquil hemlock]

imagine beeing a new player wanting to discover outlaw rn

[proven ocean]

Zac??

[tulip jewel]

it’s important lore to the spec

[proven ocean]

Guys

What food do i eat

Im hungry as cow

[red zinc]

solo wouldnt you only need 30*14 + 60 at most

im confused

[gentle juniper]

if they cant take outlaw at its best, they wont be able to handle its worst

[tulip jewel]

probs grass then?

[proven ocean]

Wish i could eat a cat

[tranquil hemlock]

just so we're on agreement

we're at peak outlaw rn right

thats it

[red zinc]

nah

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-cat-ghoul-gif-15685393113271845735

[red zinc]

ks gone and we peak

[tranquil hemlock]

[tulip jewel]

maybe if they double the amount of time we spend in ks

[red zinc]

outlaw now better than outlaw s3 outside of the ks situation

And outlaw SL preseason wasnt an actual spec so doesnt count

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel pizza or burger

[tranquil hemlock]

thats a big "outside of"

[proven ocean]

??

[vivid vessel]

burger

[proven ocean]

Guys tiibi is here hide ur kids

[tranquil hemlock]

burger all the way

[proven ocean]

[stiff glade]

I've noticed SS sometimes consuming two stacks of UB at the same time. I can't tell if this is intended, a bug or just a weakaura thing. Anyone else having the same thing? I'm using the LE weakaura

[near rock]

not everyone is 678 bro cmon

[red zinc]

no but even then

[tulip jewel]

if you haven’t been playing outlaw do you really deserve the calories?

[tranquil hemlock]

zac isnt 678

[tulip jewel]

that +15 average heartrate cardio

[red zinc]

You can only spend 30 crests per slot and 60 extra on another with dinar

[proven ocean]

Guys guys

[stiff glade]

I am though NOT getting 2 EB stacks from it

[proven ocean]

Is hc track items getting ilvl upgr

Nesqueek

Or what

[tranquil hemlock]

yes

[proven ocean]

?

ty cat guy

[tranquil hemlock]

goes to like 672 iirc

[proven ocean]

Ty cat guy

[tranquil hemlock]

uw

dont eat cat tho

[tulip jewel]

won’t have to wep swap this mace any more

[tranquil hemlock]

eat burger

[proven ocean]

Cat guy what food do i food

[vivid vessel]

im not even 675 buddy

[proven ocean]

Ok cat guy

[proven ocean]

??

Im 676

Nice one zac

[near rock]

damn u are undergeared

[proven ocean]

8/8m and less ilvl

[vivid vessel]

i am

[near rock]

how u gonna raid 20 hours a week and be not even 675

[proven ocean]

[red zinc]

ok but your bank account is 200

[gaunt phoenix]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uYCuJ32iwwGvxfPeQee9ZP

the 240 is for upgrading hero/mythic track

then im crafting 2 more items which is 90

then upgrading 5 existing crafted which is 150

so 580 actually

[proven ocean]

Oh

Zac

I wanted to

[red zinc]

Damn

Yeah the baseline crafts push it over

Fair enough

Wait thats 480

SIR

[vivid vessel]

wait

i need that many

on reset day

at least ??

tf man

[gaunt phoenix]

idk math

[vivid vessel]

no wea

[proven ocean]

ZAC ZAC

[random stirrup]

if you have saved a lot of runed to convert it wont be that bad

[proven ocean]

OGMGOGMGOGMGOGMGOGMGOGMG

NEW TECH

INFINITE DOS

[random stirrup]

convert all runed + all carved -> runed -> gilded

[proven ocean]

DPS

999m KS DMG

!!

[vivid vessel]

i need all of that

[tranquil hemlock]

whooping 45 crests aquired

[vivid vessel]

thats a lot

[tranquil hemlock]

dope

[proven ocean]

630 cocks in ur mouth wtf

[tranquil hemlock]

thats his fetish huh

[random stirrup]

i mean i think im getting like 150 gilded from conversions or something

[red zinc]

You only have 14 slots zac

[random stirrup]

that's a good chunk

[red zinc]

16 slots but shirt and tabard are 2 slots

[tranquil hemlock]

aint no way i'm farming all these crests wtf

[vivid vessel]

I have been banking for the the thing aswell

[proven ocean]

Wish i did that too

Fml

[red zinc]

It really doesnt matter

Just crank 12s on release day

[vivid vessel]

i count 16 lol?

[random stirrup]

i should have enough to upgrade weapon + trinkets + tier slots before raid with a couple keys

[red zinc]

16 upgradeable items?

[vivid vessel]

yes

[gaunt phoenix]

you do have 16 slots

[red zinc]

No wae

[long barn]

Lol this shadow effect from the nigthold weapon like makes the game glitch haha

[vivid vessel]

yes way

[red zinc]

vrazy

ok i gotta do a lot of 12s

[gaunt phoenix]

time to game

[red zinc]

Triple outlaw 12 spam when

[vivid vessel]

so i need all this shti man

THATS CRZY

[red zinc]

Whats the 15 for

and the 60

[vivid vessel]

i have 2 items 675 rn

[random stirrup]

apparently gilded achievement does give u discount to 678 btw

so should be a lot less than 630

should work to 684

[vivid vessel]

Actually I probably need more

[tranquil hemlock]

gilded achievement stays at 675 ?

[vivid vessel]

Cause I will craft a chest I think

Then upgrade hands to 678

So another 75 crests

[red zinc]

You mean beyond 678?

[random stirrup]

idk guildie said it gave discount to 678

ye

[red zinc]

ye ok

maybe

[vivid vessel]

that would be wild !

[red zinc]

no way to know rn no?

idk how that guy would

[random stirrup]

well if it works to 678 it should work to 684

since its just gilded upgrade discount

[red zinc]

might be hard coded otherwise

[random stirrup]

at least im hoping lmao

[red zinc]

we’ll see

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/v60brewing-gif-22092680

@vivid vessel

Thats how i make coffee

[red zinc]

anyway

[proven ocean]

Tastes way better

[red zinc]

i hope ptr updates tomorrow

[proven ocean]

Than normal coffee

[red zinc]

With some actual changes

For anything

i want to see if belt actually does anything

[vivid vessel]

bro egoing his cofee rn

wild

[tulip jewel]

lmao

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/broodje-koffie-coffee-dirksland-lunchroom-gif-26734924

Goated feeling to see this

[red zinc]

Gekoloniseerd

[proven ocean]

Just waiting for ur coffee to be done

Zac

[red zinc]

dutch post

[proven ocean]

U see the hot water

On too

Too

Top

[tranquil hemlock]

coffee bad

[proven ocean]

Its making the coffee

Its taking time to make the coffee brew and become hot

Its like

[red zinc]

Drink water or milk

Rest bad for you frfr

[proven ocean]

Making the coffee masturbate

It takes its time

To be good

U feel me

[red zinc]

???

[tulip jewel]

[proven ocean]

Wdym it explains it well or?

[tranquil hemlock]

[tulip jewel]

bro edges his coffee first

[proven ocean]

But memes aside like

Man

Coffee is good

[tranquil hemlock]

gotta help the coffee "soak"

[proven ocean]

that

See chat

Soak = masturbate

Same thing

Like its not a bad word

Unless u use it for a hotdog

Then thats on you right

Guys red bull or lipton iced tea

[tranquil hemlock]

ur onto something

[tulip jewel]

waiting for zac to announce his fetish reveal

[tranquil hemlock]

fr

[red zinc]

Soaking is not the same

But lets not get into that

i forgot i stole premium raidbots from someone lemme run a droptimizer

[proven ocean]

[tranquil hemlock]

[proven ocean]

Cat guy

[tulip jewel]

making your own coffee is too cost effective

[proven ocean]

??????

WHAT

ITS WAY CHEAPER

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[tulip jewel]

that’s my point

[tranquil hemlock]

thats what he said

[tulip jewel]

I prefer wasting money at a cafe

[proven ocean]

Oh i read it expensive

[red zinc]

ego read

[tranquil hemlock]

cost expensive huge

[tulip jewel]

how else would all my local barista friends know my order before I even walk in

[proven ocean]

??

[red zinc]

Whats the male name for a barista

[tulip jewel]

revealing his true personality

[tidal hawk]

broista

[tulip jewel]

baristbruh

[quick grove]

I might be crazy, but have they fixed the grappling hook issues in Dornogal for getting on top of buildings? Seems to be working for the first time in ages for me

[tulip jewel]

ur cooked

[polar kelp]

Coffee dude

[red zinc]

Is it actually just a barist?

No way right

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-22968526

[tulip jewel]

barrister

[red zinc]

Oh its just barista aswell

[tulip jewel]

lmao

[red zinc]

its baristi in italian though

For men

[proven ocean]

Ofc it is what

[tulip jewel]

took you a while

[tranquil hemlock]

broista

[proven ocean]

Its like saying

[tulip jewel]

[proven ocean]

Hi im a chef

But

Are u a chefie? (Female)

[tulip jewel]

she’s a chefette bro

get it right

[red zinc]

Theres plenty of words that have that nephew

Language just mad inconsistent

[tranquil hemlock]

in french, chef's female counterpart can be written "cheffe"

so yea

[proven ocean]

Zac went to send a quickie

Hes been gone for no reason

[tulip jewel]

in america they call them burger flippers

doesn’t matter the gender

[red zinc]

Better to be unemployed in this country than to work at mcdonalds

[tulip jewel]

[proven ocean]

[tulip jewel]

better than dealing with angry fast food consumers

[slate plaza]

Outlaw rogue is an employment

[tulip jewel]

we’re all outcasts

[red zinc]

1.2% dps gain from crafting ring damn

Guess i gotta farm top to finish gearing then

[misty anvil]

is outlaw rogue unplayable on 160 ms? i play on eu from na

[gaunt phoenix]

not unplayable

weakaura delay will be annoying a bit

but at stable ping you can get used to it

[misty anvil]

yeah its stable atleast so ill give it a shot and just see i guess

thank you

[proven ocean]

OGMGOGMGOGMGOGK CHAT

[red zinc]

hello zeross

[gaunt phoenix]

Omg

[tulip jewel]

I find like 120+ pretty cooked

not fun

[rotund zodiac]

anyone got weapon swap WA for the cudgel?

[polar kelp]

Check pins 🙂

[vivid vessel]

thats a macro

nice try tho

[rotund zodiac]

there's no WA for this in the pins or I'm blinded

nvm I found zac's WA now, ty @vivid vessel

[polar kelp]

But why would you want a weak aura....just something yelling SINGLE TARGET?

[frail veldt]

So you can see which one you have on

[rotund zodiac]

yea

[blissful idol]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter
• KS Ticking damage taken

[past falcon]

did he die where did he go

[red zinc]

Assa channel

[hybrid path]

Crit haste chest or trincket? i currently have priory chest heroic track and Zee's /Junkmaestro both heroic track aswell
Sims say chest gives more dps on paper (15kchest, 5k trincket) but im not sure about the stats (also ive seen some top rogues using the whistle, but i dunno if its that good for M+ or they just took it cause they didnt had anything else)

[gaunt phoenix]

whistle is fine, just one of many good trinkets

should prolly go chest

[red zinc]

What boss boosts should i ask for from guild with dinar for m+

Just oab and stix?

[gaunt phoenix]

you dont need versatility on everything, at some point crit <= vers

[wintry solar]

The upgrade from a Ryzen 5 2600 to a Ryzen 7 5700x3d is a pretty big jump

So this is what it's like to just be able to log in and now have to wait for the stutters to stop

[gaunt phoenix]

like the difference between 11000 crit+20000 vers and 6000 crit+25000 vers is basically zero

[hybrid path]

the thing is should i use the chest as it is or go for tier piece?

i think tier give low vers high mastery

[red zinc]

dont think it matters that much whether your off tier piece is chest or shoulders

[gaunt phoenix]

tier shoulders and tier chest are high mastery

so ultimately depends if you get a good M shoulders or not

[red zinc]

So many rings in this season but not a single crit vers / vers crit outside of the rng one

[hybrid path]

currently heroic tier shoulders since i dont raid mythic and vault gave me 4 sockets

[red zinc]

[hybrid path]

then ill sim tier piece and chest as it is and see what i do

thx m8

[slate forge]

Vexie trinket didn’t drop again and now guild wants to do lockouts for prog soon

[blissful idol]

when is i level boost happening

[gaunt phoenix]

next week

[blissful idol]

if i have a 6/6 piece

[gaunt phoenix]

it becomes 6/8

[blissful idol]

i will have the option to upgrade it 2 more times?